What is the best spring fertilizer on a cool season lawn?
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- I put to the test 5 fertilizers this spring on my side yard, to prove who was the best. The results shocked me!
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So what does the test reveal? It shows that no matter what fertilizer you use, if the grass doesn't want to use the nutrients provided it's not going to. In this case I'm 99% sure it was too soon for my area to be fertilizing, and the lawn was using up the nutrients it stored last fall. It was an interesting test for sure!
I’m glad you clarified that. To me unless a manufacturer is lying about the guaranteed analysis on their label (and I don’t believe they do) then results speak to what your specific lawn is deficient in, or alternatively what your lawn specifically can’t use because it’s bound up or unavailable due to some other factor
I've watched a lot of Doc's videos over the last couple years and I've come to the conclusion that he is an infomercial host. I'm not going to hate on him for trying to make money but that's all he cares about, its glaringly obvious. This super juice garbage is pure overpriced snake oil. He makes it look super innovative but the reality is he probably sources all the stuff that goes in there super cheap and bags it and gave it a fancy name and wants you to pay a premium for it. It will not improve your lawn, it will not improve anything, its garbage. A regular feeding program with cheap fertilizer gets the same results, with or without super juice. Mulch your clippings, mulch your leaves, topdress with compost, those are all infinitely more beneficial than that crap.
In my opinion Super Juice is a waste of money and time . I put it down at 4 times the suggested rate. No difference.
It does cost quite a bit for the results.
Snake oil
Keep the test throughout the year.
Who else hates these premier notifications.
Yeah I wish it would say a few minutes prior not a whole day!
Grass Daddy yeah an hour heads up would be great 👍
@@GrassDaddy It got me excited yesterday when I saw it but then saw 19 hours till premier. I like that you showed the test and results all in one video. I think a cheap starter fertilize is the best bet for the first spring application.
I wouldn't expect much of anything from the Super Juice.....
I wasn't expecting much either. It does have a lot of micros which is good, but the claims on the sales page are too high. And the fact that so many told me that it only works in spring made me realize they were thinking the spring flush is because of the super juice when really that's just what lawns do in the spring (as seen in this video)
@@GrassDaddy exactly......
It looks I'll be sending back my super juice...I can get better value for my $80 elsewhere it looks like.
None of those is AS fert. At this time of the year, any 'organic' or even Urea based fert will be either wasted or not activated yet. Had to do a stripe of Ammonium sulfate as reference at same N rate.
Great point! I went with what I had in the garage.
@@thebigmad50 you will find AS (21-0-0) at turf/golf and AG suppliers
I believe Propeat is 100% ammonium sulfate. Carbon X has a certain percent AS N
No need to keep the test going. That side yard is the perfect domination opportunity. Show no mercy to that neighbors pale, weak, dandelion ridden turf.
Sorry to add to my already ranting post, but do any of you realize how unproven humic acid on lawns is? You have to stop listening to these lawntubers, who will defend it til their last breath. Look for actual, unbiased sources for evidence that humic acid has little if any benefit to turfgrass. The only research I've actually found was done by a university turf program, and the results were basically inconclusive. They said it probably does nothing, and might help a little with the heat and drought stress resistance, and that was a very big MIGHT. It wasn't too enthusiastic about that claim. You have to realize why this product is being pushed, the fertilizer market is controlled by multibillion dollar corporations, in other words the market is cornered. They're trying to sell you something that you can't get at the big box store and make you believe that its the secret that will unlock your lawns potential. People have to get smarter.
Challenge accepted! I do a lot of things that aren't proven because I see the results. But I do like to learn. And since I can call these guys on the phone I may be able to get to the research ;)
Screaming green! Waaaaaaaay better than anything I’ve tried even the stuff pitched often on UA-cam. It’s a green like you’ve never seen!
Chad I love mine and only 22 a bag is great at my local Site one
I also use Screamin' Green. It works very well.
Just bought screamin’ green yesterday. I can’t wait to apply it!
@@dewayneoverton466 it’s bad ass! I’ll be going back to it since Carbon Earth is out of business.
Super juice .....waste and over priced
It's not about the health of your lawn, it's about what's in (or not in) your soil. Test your soil and choose your product to provide what the soil is deficient in (if anything). A fertiizer can be very effective before either growing season, but only if it is providing things your grass needs that aren't already in the soil. If you fertilize regularly, it doesn't surprise me that you're not seeing a big difference, because your soil probably has everything the grass can use for at least part of the growing season. There's a better chance you may see a difference near the end of the season, or it might even take until the fall season, or even next year, but rest assured, the grass will deplete the nitrogen and later the other nutrients, unless they are replaced. If you bag your clippings, the grass will deplete the soil much faster. If you mulch, you probably one need one fert treatment a year. If you bag, two is better. But you won't know if you don't test the soil.
Not knocking your test or results, but carbonX is making a huge impact on my lawn right now. It darkened up a lot and is thickening up great. I also want to push it hard in the spring so it can handle the summer better.
I agree. Been using carbon X for two seasons, I prefer that product over Milo and any other frets out there. I use it on TF
I think later in the season it would have more impact for me. I used it quite a bit in the fall so the plants are using what was stored up right now. Did you do heavy fall apps?
So five weeks later. Everything looks identical....
My money is on the CX DIY
Love that background music! Nice test.
Don’t know what you mean that nobody puts drop settings on their bags. All the Scott’s ones I use do. The best is their Green MAX.
carbon x
I will always vote DOMINATION line over test stripe.
I'm not a big Milorganite fan. I picked up some Scott's Green Max with iron. It's phosphorus free and had good reviews.
Going to go out on a limb and say this probably is going to be another bashing Super Juice video.
Nope, shows that none of the fertilizers had an effect in spring
Good video Tim. I think all the fertilizers work. I have noticed better results when applying soil amendments such as root Hume, sea kelp and Humic granules with the ferts. Who knows, like you said once you have a healthy lawn the results aren't as noticeable. I personally dont get the wow factor anymore however grass is dark and looking good. It was more exciting to me the first couple years getting serious about the lawn. Cant remember who said it but they said each cultivar of grass can only get so green. Anyway good video and I will watch your upcoming videos regardless of your next move.
Grass Daddy I live in RI just like you and today was the first day that we just hit 70 for this spring. Would of the temp have mattered in your testing? I use Ringer but it was not used in this video. What do you think about this organic in the spring? Let me know buddy
Yup I think most people try to start fertilizing too soon. I may rename the video what happens when you fertilizer too soon
Initially at 20 days. Carbon x was darker. Go for the domination line, it shouldn’t be hard by just applying a weed control. 😁
Just curious, is your soil PH in a good spot? I’ve heard that is a major part of your lawn accepting nutrients properly
Be cool to see your results. I’m wanting to try hyrbrix as well. I’m trying figure out what’s best as well.
Great to see your vid, hope all is well with you and the fam. I say keep the side yard for testing this season! 👍🏻
Have been looking at getting some SJ. Can stop wasting that time. Thanks
Isn't your side yard neighbor a 90-year-old man? Zero gratification in having a "domination" line there, if that's the case.
He was 98 and passed away. Don't know who the new neighbor will be yet but feel the need to show whose boss from the beginning!
Scotts is the best........#SCOTTSLAWN
The sample areas were way too small to determine anything. Pretty much every spreader calls for overlapping passes and you made a single pass, so the products mixed? I mean c'mon
Drop spreaders work different than rotory. The reason you overlap is for even coverage since it's flinging it out. With a drop spreader it's precise where you put it. That's why most people don't use them because they will leave stripes of fert / no fert.
You should check out jerry baker his lawn tonics work soo much better than this expensive stuff
Ah yes I haven't watched his in a long time
My feedback is this. You saw Scott’s did make a difference at the 3 week recording, with a close follow up by Carbon X. At the same time Scott’s was on the lowest, and it looks like the drainage point of that yard. So excellent fertilizer, with most moisture for the grass to take advantage of? I’d say this wasn’t exactly the best controlled test to make a call. What if Milorganite were where you put the scotts? Would it have made a difference? Maybe? Who knows. Great video though! I see what you’re trying to do. Just hard without multiple data sets spread out across multiple lawns.
Carbon X had best results after the first few weeks.
Yup I thought it was gonna take the win
I conducted my own test between Carbon X and Milo, late March. CX greened first/fast. But, after a couple weeks, both area were equal and doing well. I am sticking with Milo since it's a lot cheaper more available at the BigBoxStores here in Georgia (for $14). Having said that, I used the Scott's Triple Action on one side of my lawn a couple weeks later, and it actually looks the best.
@@jaidamann8365 Carbon X is the cheapest here. Milo is about $12-15/bag
compost, compost, compost.
Been waiting on the show.
When people ask me I always tell them the brand doesn’t really matter. I’ve used Lesco because it’s usually cheaper. Also split the application in to give smaller amounts more frequently. 👍
Exactly, it's what is IN the bag that counts. And what your soil actually needs.
If you want micro nutrients then it does matter.
@@vietditchm2006 It really doesn't. I look at whatever is inside the bag, not the brand on the outside.
The best for you would be determined by a soil test
Yes, I just shot the soil test results video today so I'll be going over that.
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Grass Daddy, I started using Xgreen 8-1-8 by Matt at Carbon Earth and it is amazing. The newest version with the peptides...In my opinion it is an excellent carbon based fertilizer with humic, sea kelp, iron, and micro nutrients...I'm dominating my neighborhood already!!! lol I'm upstate n.y. where the temperatures have been very cold and just started getting into the 60+ degrees... I also use N-EXT bio stimulant 4 pack.
What fertilizers are you using this Spring and when do you plan on applying? I'm next door in Mass so I'd like to copy your schedule and products you use. Thanks
The Milorganite is slow release and requires heat to breakdown. It is not a good fertilizer for your first application of the spring. I usually put a starter fertilizer down in the spring and get a big pop of green and thickening. I can really tell the difference where I have too much overlap and the extra fertilizer gives real thick dark bands. None of the liquids provide much nitrogen per application. It is not possible to get down .72 to 1 lbs of Nitrogen per 1000 sqft with just a few gallons of any of the brands at the rates they suggest. You need to do weekly applications of those and will pay through the nose. I just did my second application and used Carbon X. Compared to my neighbors, my grass is on another level of green and I just want to keep it going. I expect a growth spurt and will then use the T-Nex Growth regulator to control the growth and promote root growth before the heat and droughts hit.
I may or may not have sprayed a pouch of something that covers 5000 sqft on 1200. Hehe
You should be able to use super juice all summer long. It appears to be the same as greene County N-ext 0-0-2 product. It can also supplement during times when your not pushing your yard during non growth periods.
Super juice is more of a soil amendment and needs to have multiple apps to build it up in the soil.
Nice test! When I lived in the North, I noticed that it did not really matter what I put down (I use to put down milo, a local liquid compost, or scotts.... whatever, I was in the mood for). Fall was way more important. However, no matter what you use really only matters long term (even fast release). If you have a yard you have been taking care of, the lawn isn't going to go crazy with one app different or even missed. If you never put anything down, it will show up a lot faster. I am learning this isn't as true in warm season Bermuda. To the left of me, my neighbor uses a service that uses liquid urea. To the right of me, my neighbor uses generic weed-and-feed. I use milo and Carbon X. My Bermuda is way more blue-green. Right neighbor burns out (I warned him about the weed-and-feed). Left neighbor looks healthy as mine, but not as think as my turf. Long story short: save your money. Super expensive ferts don't matter as long as they have the right NPK and maybe so micros sometimes. (PS, I have no faith in super juice. I watch doc because he does have some nice hints at times. However, I personally hate liquid and don't want to be in my yard every week spoon feeding liquid.... I do have a life.)
I used super juice last year and did a test. It definitely worked I will finish the bag. I probably will not buy more. I like the John perry method better (with my tweeks cuz I’m nuts)
Thanks for sharing Grass Daddy!How much is a bag of carbon x and how much coverage do you get from one bag? I've also wondered about putting down some Anderson's Humic DG. Is patience the best product to use on your yard in the spring?
I saw when you were making the dial adjustments on the drop spreader, you had the handle squeezed? I have the same model...is that the way you are supposed to do? If so...I've been doing it wrong?
Good video. I used Carbon X for the first time this spring and my grass really took off. It’s never been this thick.Really impressed 👍
Grass Daddy i seeded some bare spots in my front yard. However, some spots did not germinate. May I reseed again? If so, when do i apply the fertilizer? Btw, I reside on the East Coast.
Super juice is not a fertilizer like what you think of. I would put down pgf complete.
Been using PGF Complete since it was released and it works really well on my Bermuda lawn here in Texas. Using the NXT liquids (air 8,rgs) So far it's been great!
John here after he gets done notices the guy next door full blooming danylines
Definitely keep the test going till next spring. I'm curious to see if they have long term benefits or drawbacks. Also, I know it's a little late, but do a soil test for each of the strips and see how that changes too.
Should have tested PGF complete instead of Super Juicd.
Keep the TEST!!
Also the late fall heavy fert throw down really helped my lawn wake up incredible this spring.
For the CarbonX, what setting did you use on the drop spreader?
Good details of each carbon x and Scott's best
Thanks a great video👍🏻✌🏻
Love the videos . The music is always entertaining!!
Grass Daddy..thanks for these test you do. How's the Toro working out? And is anyone else still having a hard time finding Milorganite? Take care...and fer sure domination line!
Toro is working great so far!
What fertilizer are you gonna use on your whole lawn?
But you grass is greener than you neighbors
Lesco Starter fert 18-4-12 is an excellent early season first app for Northern lawns.
Thats what I use, works great, get two applications from each bag.
Wondering why I should buy a ‘greens mower’ over a cheap McLane?
Once you use both you will understand why.
Do some 8-1-8 fertilizer
Grass Daddy, what are you considering putting down for YOUR Spring fertilizer?
Typically I'll use milorganite for the first application and then wait until the grass starts to wake up for anything else. The reason is the milorganite will break down as the soil temps warm up which is when the grass wakes up.
Never heard of screaming green
Great test video and outstanding tuck and roll, LOL !!! I like the CX.
Yeah you never know what will happen when the kids are on cam lol
I’m doing 3 test plots in my backyard between Menards 30-0-3, Purely Organic 10-0-2, and Propeat 17-0-4. After two weeks I’ve seen no difference at all between the three.
I think people put way too much emphasis on which fertilizer they use!
@@GrassDaddy I was in that camp the last two years, but the more I researched the more I came to realize that fertilizer choice doesn’t really matter that much. Doing a two year unscientific study, we’ll see what the plots look like through the seasons.
Keep it going all year!!
Good video and good job!
THANK YOU! for spending ALL THAT MONEY instead of me. I will continue my normal Milorganite once every 5 weeks maybe 6 weeks and spot spray for broadleaf weeds which I have very few. I will also apply one application of Ironite
You're welcome!
Do yourself and get a soil test. Your Phos levels will sky rocket. I did my first soil test after using milo for 2
seaons and needless to say I have 4 bags of milo and 1 bad of PGF complete that I hope use next year. Let a soil test determine what your fert plan should be. Will save time and money in the long run.
XGRN 8-1-8 from Carbon Earth company is my favorite fertilizer so far. Very small prills and easy to spoon feed.
How often do you spoon feed your lawn?
That's sh*ts expensive. It costs 40 dollars to do a 5k sq foot lawn putting down .5 lbs of N per 1k.
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Grass daddy just found you where do you live?
Rhode island
Domination!
Why no Anderson’s PGF complete?
I don't have any
Looking good
I’m going to guess Scott’s.
I use cx in my front and random stuff in my back
Definitely prefer the lower rate app for CX and it’s analysis
It’s cheaper than most things out there and has RGS and some amendments
I don’t believe that it has RGS anymore. That partnership with Greene County Fertilizer ended last year. It now has peptides.
Gary Kennedy well fuk I got the first batch so I'm still using lol with my small broadcast I can do 8lb/2000sqft with ease instead of Milo needing almost the whole bag
doh! I just saw that too. Thanks Gary for raining on my sunny day! LOL just kidding
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Sgr?
Barb says super juice
Nice test