Something's Fishy About This PC Company...
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
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This computer website was linked to us via our public Discord server, and it left a foul taste. The owner claims to be selling ideal PCs for stock and options trading, but is instead plagued with questionable videos/guides and lacks component specificity. Let's dive deeper.
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If part of your advertising scheme is declaring how you WON'T rip me off....tells me you're gonna' rip me off.
"Oh no, Mr. Customer! I swear! I am not going to sell you garbage painted up to look like gold! I would never do that to YOU!"
Just like that Biden campaign commercial where he says, "I know how to tell the truth!" It was definitely a WTF moment when I first saw it. Dude couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it.
"Don't worry about our ski masks man, just walk down the alley. We won't jump you!"
It's just like that Biden campaign commercial where he says, "I know how to tell the truth." If you have to say it, well....
@@ferrellsl Grow up.
I build and sell gaming PCs locally, all at cost, recycling used PC parts from my component refurbishing and reselling business. Someone asked me to build them a trading PC and stressed the importance of being able to run at least 5 monitors at once. A cheap older Ryzen 2700, RX 480, and basic other specs and it runs like a dream for him. I think I sold it to him for $250.
Could have been an easy 600$ lick 😭
scammed urself
I'm impressed that you did not just overcharge him
@@simpx2844can you people live without being dishonest to others for 2 seconds
Do you ship your pc’s across the US? If so what is the name of your company if you own it or work for it
Look at this guy, hunting down the villains trying to scam us, bruh $3k for a 500gig SSD
Fr I could make a pc for 3k with 4tb or more
@@legendsocool644 same, in my case build two pc for me and my bro.
$3k can get me an acer predator 21 x off some army veteran.
IKR, the only thing he left out was what a great Christian he is. unless op left out "god bless" or "may the lord be with you" when he read the webpage. like every scammer ever.
He sounds like a late night infomercial seller.
"It's a special edition. SE model." 😂
And. traditionally, SE when applied to cars is usually just half a step above the base model. 'Special' generally refers to the process of eliminating some of the features of higher spec model to get it within a certain price point. For example, I used to drive a '99 Pontiac Grand Am SE, which had the ABS and traction control of the higher end model but lacked any of the creature comforts from the higher end model, such as leather seating.There was also no 6Cyl option on the SE IIRC. I think the base model still didn't have power windows so you got those too. But you didn't get the fancy radio or 6 disc changer or sunroof, a spoiler or any other crap like that you'd get on the high end model. In fact, the SE still got a cassette player but that was better than the radio only on the base model.
The address listed, the Davie Fl one, is actually a UPS store in unit number 8958.
UPS stores, and other "mail box" stores, offer a mail forwarding / postal box service, by were anyone can subscribe too and get a virtual mailing address, which is the address of the mail box store with a suite number that is the subscriber's "box".
Very small businesses use this type of service, in order to have a public address to receive mail, as if it was their own brick-and-motor store location.
Scammers also use this type of service, as it hides the real location of the scammer, but allowing the scammer to received mail.
I'm not saying that this fishy company is a scam, but by them paying extra to hide their real location, doesn't say much for them to prove they are not a scammer.
Bro is using the 2008 script on trading computers 😂
the fact u dont need a powerful computer to see graphs on ur monitor. the "tiny lag" he mentioned is server side, not client side. its sad there r people who actually believe this
Too right. That DMA Greg mentioned is more important than a lot of the PC hardware. Most traders I know have a pretty basic barebones type system that couldn't game for crap but that special direct connection gives them the info just fine.
@@SAMarcus Yeah I'd hazard a guess a lot of those guys run pretty modest Dell OptiPlex systems.
@@FlyboyHelosim The ones I've worked on usually were Dell or HP, the most common business PCs ever. It's actually pretty rare for there to be unbranded or custom PCs in most professional workplaces.
This rings alarm bells as soon as the advert said “free”. A trading computer? Never heard of such a thing. Gaming computer, video editing, live streaming, definitely. But trading? 🤣😂🤣 a scammer warning us against a scammer. I have seen it all. Wait, just seen a pig flying backwards past the living room window, now I have seen it all. 😂🤣😂🤣
While I never saw any advertised as a trading computer before, this absolutely was a thing quite a few years ago. Day traders would get custom PCs built with multiple monitor support before that was a common thing and with high end CPUs and lots of RAM to have many windows open watching a lot of data. I suspect that it was such a niche market that no one would design computers for this or advertise it, so it was likely all custom one offs, but it was definitely a very special setup at the time. Now all of what you would need is in virtually every PC and doesn't need anything custom.
@@jeffreyparker9396 I never spotted anything like that advertised in the UK, I have only been using a PC since 1998 which is when I started using them at work, I was a complete idiot regarding them. I didn't even know about email, internet, games on a PC because they were out of my price range. Here we are 24 years later and I still know nothing about them. 😂🤣😂🤣
I used to build trading computers for some personal clients who were happy. Mostly because I had a static service fee and transparent pricing...
@@TeamGB-Diving like I said I don't know of anything advertised as such, but I do know that my dad built computers a couple of times I think starting around 98 for someone who was doing day trading. It was quite a different build that just about anything else with an emphasis on multi monitor support which was supported but practically unheard of at the time.
calling it a gaming computer is just as ridiculous, especially since we all know that a playstation or an xbox is a gaming computer... funny how ppl split hairs about 1 stupid phrase VS another equally stupid phrase, SMH... i guess if i use a computer to watch porn that makes it a "porn computer" right? or if i use my computer to run photoshop, does that make it a "photoshop computer"? no, it all sounds idiotic when u really think about it... like i can't use that computer to watch youtube because it's a gaming computer, i should use a youtube computer instead...
My goddamn gaming pc with AT LEAST 32GB of RAM smokes every single PC this fraud tries to sell
Same
What do you mean "at least"? Does it have 32GB of RAM or not?
@FlyboyHelosim it does I meant that that as saying that should literally be the minimum for some of these rigs that were offered for their outrageous prices
@@FlyboyHelosimit means he sometimes has more than 32gb but never less than
Homeboy said...integrated graphics.... lol. 😄
Might just be me but that intro video felt as if it was in the same style as an MLM sales pitch.
The guy who answered Greg's call said the integrated graphics is on the motherboard??? Run away as fast as you can.
I mean... for integrated graphics, isn't the video connection on the motherboard? Like I know the motherboard is not providing the graphics, and I'm not defending him, I'm just saying lol.
He was fairly correct though, Intel UHD 630 is a thing thats integrated. However, *most* PCs might come with this GPU as a secondary just in case the primary breaks. So it'll work but don't expect it to do fancy things lmao
Around 10 years ago was very common to mothers board to come with integrated graphic, now is more common to be integrated on the cpu.
But you still can get some that are still good boards, mostly old ryzen that still are usables with modern ryzens. But you are better buying just a modern board xd
Also server motherboard can come with onboard graphics, and almost sure that is what he is selling
@@nardalis4832 But most of those CPUs were Intel F-chips. No integrated graphics.
ANY DAMN PC, EVEN A GTX 745 4GB GPU & 4790 CPU CAN BE A TRADING PC...I DAY TRADE FUTURES EVERY DAY AND HAVE BEEN A TRADER OF OPTIONS FOR 4 YEARS. Mind you my "trading" computer is also my work pc, 10400f & 3060 gpu. 3 monitors at 1080p 144hz. Its funny to see an advert for a "trading pc" lmao
Knowing these kinds of people your video is going to get false copyright claimed because you are hurting their reputation, please continue to show your support for Greg by watching his fix or flop series, it has taught me how to do troubleshooting on my own pc
I'll finish watching Greg's video, but I am going to pause and comment that I have never heard of any computer referred to as a 'trading computer' or 'trading PC' ... I'm guessing that this is essentially supposed to be a productivity PC focused on online trading and analysis of public stocks and stock markets ... 🤷🏻🤷🏻
Essentially. For a "trading PC" you could easily get away with a workstation, like a Dell OptiPlex. If you're doing a lot of trading then more monitors are ideal so you may need to add in a GPU for more ports. At the end of the day though, just get 1 gig fiber internet. Your internet connection is way more important than what system you have since, like Greg said, you could easily trade from any modern smartphone.
The advert is basically telling people to stay away from companies like his.
This is actually a pretty common tactic. You say to your victims straight up that you're scamming them and that ensures only the stupid people take the bait, and people that dumb will not be easily convinced they were scammed in the first place because they don't want to admit they were wrong and overconfident in their knowledge
At first, despite your disclaimer, I was thinking, "Come on, don't bash on this random guy's company, you know how the internet takes these things too far."
After seeing the prices and specs of the PCs though, I understand and rescind my judgment.
Greg Salazar - Fishing for Fishy companies/sellers for our protection.
I haven't actually lol in a while, but when he said $1500 for that bulletproof build, I actually did.
My aunt almost bought from there after linking me. She paid them a lot of money at one point for a "life time" membership at trading stocks.
It looks like the cringe website I threw together one time 20 years ago to replace one I made in 1997. Then we got someone who knew how to make good websites and I was very happy to let them do it.
Oh, they have videos; that must mean they're here on UA-cam, because of course they are. Oh look, there they are. Aaaaaaaaaaand the comments are turned off. DULL SURPRISE!
At least you get to listen to The Dave Brubeck Quartet while you're on hold.
ah yes my 1,499 computer 16gb of ram barely any storage will be incredible can not wait to tell all the boys I am sure they will be jealous of my sick intertegrated graphics
"Literally _dozens_ of symbols", all at the same time?! Geez, better bust out the 7995WX, gonna need every single teraflop to render those fonts xD
As soon as I saw this one I knew i had seen it before. A customer of mine bought a PC from the site before I could get a chance to help him. He's an older gentleman who's gotten into trading. Their ads definitely left a lot to be desired and target a certain audience. As soon as I was told about what he had purchased, i called with the same questions and was given little to no information. He was sold on the 5 year warranty. I wonder if the site will even exist in 5 years. It's a real shame that sites like this exist.
Trading PCs are definitely a thing - they are mid-range e.g i5-13400 with 32GB RAM and (crucially) multiple GT-710s installed. That way you can get 9 or even more displays set up on the same system clock (PCIe timers). They cost around $600 + warranty, depending on how many displays you want to support. Definitely not what this seller is charging!
NB some trading machines try to upsell higher speed NICs, but the issue is almost always latency on the server side, not bandwidth on the client - hence High Frequency Trading having dedicated ISP lines
A KF SKU with integrated graphics? That's a new one.
As soon as Greg started offering help to Russ, I laughed! I hope Greg knows Russ doesn't give a shit and ripping people off is his absolute goal! I honestly didn't even know there was such a thing as a "trading computer" so thanks for the little bit of knowledge, Greg.
This Company needs to be shut down!!! EZ Trading Computers is a SCAM!!!!!! Or HE NEEDS TO CHANGE ALOT ASAP!!!
Those prices are straight out of fantasy land. But he's been in business for 10 years, so that just proves how many suckers are out there
The worst part about this is that this seems to be targeted at day traders and my understanding is that making money day trading has become nearly impossible because of the high frequency traders that are able to jump in front and drive prices up, then and sell just after your purchase potentially driving prices back down.
So... my place of work purchased a "Radical X14" for research purposes a few months ago
Here's what we got (I'm pulling this from memory since it was returned after we worked out it was basically the off the shelf part equivalent of an alienware with some quadro cards instead of an RTX):
13900KF with an 120mm asetek cooler
Asus TUF Z690 Motherboard DDR4 with bog standard JEDEC 3200.
2xQuadro P620 GPUs (at a time when newer/better T400/T600 were widely available)
Crucial P3 for storage (these drives suck)
Lame Antec case
Bios set for PL1=125W, PL2=253W
The biggest foux pas of the build itself is the "Water Cooling" that they advertise because a 120mm asetek is significantly worse than just using a dual tower 120mm cooler.
From the testing that was done the single core was with 5% of a DDR5 system with a PA120 and set for PL1=PL2=253W but the multi core was trash due to the aforementioned asetek cooler and lame power limit settings used to accommodate it.
It probably would work well enough and there wasn't any red flags quality wise aside from the case but is a total ripoff considering the performance/price due to the terrible cooling and power limits set and use of jedec DDR4.
1500 dollars for a computer with Integrated Intel Graphics, I swear that I was transported to the year 2020 or earlier.
If latency is an issue in trading because you have to be super quick to snap up the trades, wouldn't you have the brains to not be buying a BS computer in the first place?
its banks on the fact that the person buying has been losing non stop just like a gamer that goes and spends thousands for a gaming computer because they think the reason they suck is because theyre only getting 80fps instead of 240.
No such thing as a “trading” computer btw. They are just computers that do computer things. Bottom line is if you don’t have a crap pc you can trade well…
Scummy Scam Website with a Silver Tongued Fox = Beware of Scammer
Only needed to hear the first few opening paragraphs to know this Guy is scammer. When they talk for 5 mins and never actually say anything or get to a point, that's the biggest indicator to vanish from that site immediately.
He tells you there are companies trying to rip you off, then rips you off. Scam.
Well at least he was truthful about that part, he simply forgot to mention his company is one of them. I'd call that an honest mistake :p
Who? The guy featured in the video or the guy that made the video and is advertising a shady company selling shady software licenses?
It doesn't make sense. If the dude can make money trading ¿Why is he trying to rip off people with his "trading computers"? 💀
same way ppl try to rip us off with their "gaming computers", it's all a play on words... i've never heard of a gaming computer until companies started putting LEDs all over em, SMH...
@@GriffinPoole LEDs and fancy looking parts are gamers fault, not companies fault. They exist because people want them for some reasons.
"Investing computers" sounds as big as a farce as some companies "Gaming computers".
It is REAL Fishy. Thanks for Sharing.
I would hope people would do their homework before forking out 3k or more for a pc that is a waste of money. In this day and age... you are your best defense against scams.
I’m willing to bet that guy will see this video and will sue you, because he’s probably just that kind of person…
so we are getting a part 2😁
I am.
I just built a trading pc a few months ago for $480 (40,000 INR). It has a 3200G with 16 gigs Vengeance LPX 3200 and 500 gigs Crucial P3. The biggest chunk of the budget went to the GPU. It is a GT 730 with 4 HDMI ports and cost around $120 (10000 INR). It gets the job done and runs extremely smoothly for what it does. Multi thousand dollar PCs are not required for trading.
that GT710 should have been given away for free. just buy a used 1050ti/1060 at that point.
otherwise good build for the price. can you share what PSU and motherboard are you using ?
@@tanmaypanadi1414 I wanted 4 individual ports to reduce points of failure as much as possible. I built it for the an office and I won't be there to diagnose each and every problem.
I'm using an Asrock b450m with a Cooler Master MWE 550 80+ bronze.
The GT710 costs about $50 and can barely support 3 monitors. It has less performance than a current iGPU. Are you sure that’s what you bought for $120?
@@ChristianWagner888 yup. Search for Asus GT 730 4 HDMI. It has a passive cooler. It supports 4 1080p monitors just fine since I've worked with it a few times. Also, I've not heard any complaints about it not working properly.
As a person trying to get into pc building as a business people like make me so mad. It’s a scam.
Ohhh a special Quadro, now i want to buy this PC for sure! :D
Trading computer? LOL, surely this is just a basic PC with maybe the right software. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
and a gaming computer is the same exact thing, the computer companies made up these phrases as a money grab... i mean, what's a gaming motherboard? and how does that differ from a regular motherboard? it's all a word game & the herd fell for it, SMH...
@@GriffinPoole Gaming computer is a computer that can run games with at least decent FPS and not thermal throttle.
@@GriffinPooleso someone hasn’t been paying attention at all in the industry
First video using a blue background? Neat! Hope to see it getting used more in the future.
This heavily reminds me of that free DIY electric, video made by Computer Clan
That man sounds exactly like Saul Goodman when he did his ads lmao.
That company is shameful, I am trying to be nice but it's hard. I hope there are not too many people that fall for this crap. It's a borderline scam and outlandish prices make me want to throw up. Thanks Greg for exposing them.
This is yet another example of the tried and true "find the sucker and take his money" business model.
Well done for spreading the word. Keep doing it
I thought this was going to be a video about trading pcs between people or something lol. If he were to price these machines closer to their worth, and disclose more information across the board, and not come at me like every single scam website I've seen before, I think it would be an interesting concept because he is offering the stands that support multiple monitors and the monitors with it so you don't need to go elsewhere to find it, if that's what you wanted, a machine with 8 monitors filled to the brim with charts. I'd never buy one because it doesn't fit my use case, but I could see the potential in a very niche market.
That "Elevator Music" at 8:20 is Dave Brubeck's Take Five.
1500+ for a desktop and integrated graphics? ROFL!
started watching you in 2015 glad to see you in my feed again
The creator of those intro videos must have been an intern for Computer Chronicles back in the 90s I swear. 😂
Great video. Different from your others, but greatly appreciate it.
I appreciate that!
What do these people think of when they design these kinds of websites? Do they recognize their own projection and play off of it, or do they honestly think they're providing a service that nobody else offers?
I was confused for the first few minutes, thinking, what is a trading computer? There is nothing special or trading specific about the computer.
Am assuming you'd need more than Windows 11 and a web browser to trade ?
Running a multimonitor set up would require some dedicated trading Software to display all trading graphs and real time stock broking money ?
This almost feels nostalgic, like 2010 adverts.
ya need a high speed line to NYC or NJ trading centers .. less computer, more network ... and you are not going to get it ...
haha that's fun, sometimes i wonder if such people even find one person who buys their stuff.
Quick notes to the Professional Trade-Room Computers i saw at a Bank. Bog-Standard Business Workstations bought from the catalogue. What was special were the
methods in place to ensure and keep stabilitgy of the systems. Room was mirrored, second one on different Infrastructure and connectivity. One Room would get Updates and Stuff, and get tested, while the other one remained in the known stable state, until they were sure no Problems would arise with stabiliy. So Stability, Stability, Reliabilty, and than speed.
So if I'd ever need a Trading-Machine i'd go with some reputable company and go with one of the mass-market machines for businesses with a proper Support-Package, instead of something clobbered together where you left alone when things starts acting up.
Don't get scammed by the other guys!, get scammed by me instead!. There. I wrote a nice jingle to use in his commercials, license free
I love how these scammers add “with Windows XX” next to the price to make it look like a better deal. It’s good to know what OS is on the computer but it can be stated is the spec area. But adding it next to the price to make it justifiable is low.
The "liquid cooling" could be them submerging the PC in mineral oil in a fish tank.....
I have a feeling Eddie did everything himself, including the bad video, bad voice-over audio, bad graphics, bad website and just bad business model
My system cost my only a little more than that "high-end" desktop they were showing on their site, and I'm including the two monitors I bought with it. If I'm just looking at the PC alone, I'm nowhere near their price and I have a Ryzen 9, 64 GB RAM, two high-capacity NVME storage drives, a 120mm AIO, and an nVidia RTX 3060 TI card.
120mm AIO? suprised pickachu face. assuming it's a $1000 build around 2022-23
i was waiting for the guy to tell me "your mattress is free"
This sounds like the youtuber silver cymbal. Who's videos are also a bit fishy.
The whole concept of a 'trading computer' is ridiculous.
If you're trading, it would be more important to invest in your internet connection. Getting 1 gig fiber internet would help you way more than a top of the line CPU since you're doing almost everything through the internet.
Hello can u guys help me my pc won't open because it's stuck on black screen on startup. I already tried removing the CMOS and ram but nothing worked.
trading PCs are such a scam, a core 2 quad with 8gb of ram is more than enough for trading
having a few tabs open across multiple monitors does not require powerful hardware
I wonder how long until a "I'm getting sued...again" video is uploaded. 🙁
Given the prices of these machines, I can understand if these computers came with specialty trading software, which would explain the cost to cover the license. But there's nothing on the site that says that, so... Yeah.
i dont understand which motherboard for a 13400 would have 4 video outputs ?
Just want to say. I had a job recently and people think having multiple monitors = a good computer. These people were bragging how many monitors they had and when asked about specs. They had no idea.
This used to be true because. Alot of gpus back in the day had 1 or 2 ports so being able to have 6 monitors was impressive.
Yeah these days you can get Nvidia quadro and AMD's equivalent line of cards with multiple display port jacks for a decent price. One really doesn't need a high end graphics card for that.
Oh, dear the con
How about a video on Trading software. What's the best? Thanks.
Funfact: one of the advertisements I had on this video was from the official Dutch police, advertising for the recruitment of IT specialists.
Hey Greg 👋 just wondering if you have a GPU laying around u don't need or ram just trying to build a pc for gaming for good graphics 😂 love your channel I may just subscribe
Such a "quality" produced video that has audio that sounds like he recorded it using a tin can in a closet. Grade A business for sure
well done Greg on calling these scammers out !!!!!!
On another note why don't you build and setup a trading pc yourself just to see what is involved. I will gladly sit and watch that.
greg, i can't hold my madness when the guy just really make sure an Integrated graphics really cost that much or even included Quadro cards for free
"People are trying to use your lack of pc knowledge to rip you off" and he should know, he's one of them.
The hell is trading computer, any low end pc with internet connection and maybe able to connect up to 4-6 monitors?
Maybe he adds NVIDIA NVS 810, single slot, 8x mini display port :D
sounds like a job for super steve at gamers nexus back to you greg lol
I’m a bit lost by prices 😂😂😂
It’s for email marketing campaigns so he can sell you stuff. It’s cringe, but not really outside of the norm for many industries. You want to see cringe…look at the MLM insurance folks’ videos out there.
This goes much deeper than just emails...
Fair enough, he funnels people to buy significantly overpriced products. His phone service likely goes to someone that’s paid as a virtual assistant and not a call center we see in today’s customer service arena.
He’s a cheesy business man and everything about that business makes me think he wasn’t successful as a trader if this is the amount of work he puts into this.
Again, I agree it’s questionable practices, but this type of model is seen all over outside of brick and mortar stores like Best Buy.
I wouldn’t recommend anyone even if they’re a day trader to his landing page(s).
Video about a shady company ripping people off, while promoting a shady company selling shady software licenses?
The narration on that video sounds like "Crazy Eddie" which I am sure he is trying to emulate.
That website looks like its from 2006.
As always - buyer beware. Whenever I'm looking to buy anything, from a cheap set of headphones, to buying a home. I do research.
I educate myself on all the details, read third party reviews from many sources, and find the best deal I can within my budget, for a quality product that suits my needs.
Never take a salesman's advice or opinion on anything - he just wants to make the sale.
My brain is shouting fraud fraud fraud just hearing that voice on the site, and the book looks so scummy as well.
Well they updated the PCs on their website to have the graphics card model names in the specs now. So there's that at least. XD
Quick question when it’s Black Friday how do I know what parts go together without paying
PC part picker has a compatibility filter which will highlight incompatibility parts. for the exact issue you will have to do some research online.
Also watch the LTT last guide you will ever need. it covers the basics so you don't make simple mistakes.