I love how you always show the computer bits and chips and stuff against a backdrop of foliage. That juxtaposition of high tech and natural beauty is strangely appealing.
I do this on eBay when I sell tech parts and notice that those listings are always absolute bangers that sell for the nice price - you're right about it having a strangely good effect
Good buy. This week I picked up a Lenovo Think Centre P320 with; - i7 7700 - 16GB DDR4 2400 - 512GB SSD - nVidia Quadro P2000 (5GB GDDR5) - 400w Platinum PSU for £41. Think I did quite well!
@@RandomGaminginHD the Quadro card makes the deal on its own tbh. Got a machine with a dying 660ti that only gets used for office / multimedia stuff so it'll go in there nicely and use a bit less power. Rest of the machine I think I'll try and hackintosh as a bit of a project with something like an RX560 for compatibility reasons.
My specs are very similar to yours. I have an older HP Envy with the 17 7700, 16GB DDR4 2400, but with a 2TB hard drive (I'll get an SSD eventually), RTX 4060ti and RedDragon 600w PSU (it's four years old and still works great). I just thought I'd let you know that you can get a much better mid-range GPU down the road without their being a CPU bottleneck. My CPU usage varies between 60-85% with the higher end being in highly populated areas of CP2077 and RDR2. I don't know where you live, but when I had to replace my dying RTX 2060 a couple of months ago, I found the RTX 4060ti was only $50 more than a RTX 3060ti while also using less power. If you can, get at least an RTX 4060 to take advantage of DLSS3 in some games. (CP2077 in particular off the top of my head.)
daaaaaaaamn! Thats like what I build for people on pc building simulator 2! pretty new intel cpu, for where you're digging! that is insane for 41 pounds! and is it really a platinum psu? or just white? still amazing!
I watched you years ago when you had a few thousand subs, and now to see you over half a million is amazing! I'm so thrilled for you, bro. You should be proud.
Listen man, you have one of the most wholesome channels on this platform. Please don't get yourself involved in controversy, lol. This platform needs you legit. Much love bro.
@@balaam_7087 Agreed, along with Daniel Owen. I feel like the toasty bros are just as wholesome, but when it comes to the quality of their content, it seems like they unfortunately, pump out what feels like the same video over and over again and that their channel really is built for people are looking to put together a build as opposed to us tech enthusiasts (which is absolutely okay, they just target a different, although overlapping, audience) I mean I watch every one of them lol, and they seem like great guys judging by their attitude and how they helped that streamer who was going to sell his gaming set up to help his child afford treatment for an illness or something like that, and instead of taking the money, they GAVE HIM MONEY AND LET HIM KEEP THE PC, and I respect that because it feels genuine too, they get more than enough views on their videos so it wasn't for clicks, but I feel like tech UA-cam is actually in a fantastic place right now with a lot of great content creators getting involved. I think I'm gonna dip my toes in the water so, but my job requires me to not use my actual name or face, so I need to learn how to be anonymous, and still monetize my videos. Guess I'd have to use an alias, but I build and sell computers as a side job, and a lot of the time I'm doing OptiPlex retrofits, and I'm very outgoing and have a personality for it as I'm a performer and used to be the frontman of my old band back in high school, so I think I can make some great content.
@@balaam_7087 Agreed, along with Daniel Owen. I feel like the toasty bros are just as wholesome, but when it comes to the quality of their content, it seems like they unfortunately, pump out what feels like the same video over and over again and that their channel really is built for people are looking to put together a build as opposed to us tech enthusiasts (which is absolutely okay, they just target a different, although overlapping, audience) I mean I watch every one of them lol, and they seem like great guys judging by their attitude and how they helped that streamer who was going to sell his gaming set up to help his child afford treatment for an illness or something like that, and instead of taking the money, they GAVE HIM MONEY AND LET HIM KEEP THE PC. I've got to respect that. It feels genuine too, they get more than enough views on their videos so it wasn't for clicks, but I feel like tech UA-cam is actually in a Fantastic place right now.
The 7700 is the most valuable part of the system! Even used they fetch over 100 bucks. I missed a pretty good deal recently and have been kicking myself since
Kicking myself over a deal I found June 19th. A working MSI Cyborg 15 A12VF for $70.99. I didn't have money in my paypal so I asked my friend to let me borrow $100. By the time they responded the laptop was already sold. lol
I'd leave for college and every device in our house would look like that by the end of the semester. No one wants to know how to maintenance or work on the magic black boxes, they just want them to work lmfao
Have you considered baking the GPU in the oven? Longer process but more efficient than the heatgun trick ... most likely the "stripes" are due to some soldering not properly connecting, most likely on the video memory, so worth a shot.
My usual test is to first see if any capacitors are domed, in which case it's a few cents to fix (pennies for our good friend in the UK), then carefully look everything over with a magnifying glass and look for dry solder joins or broken traces, which are also simple to fix. If that doesn't work, time to break out the thermal camera to see if anything obvious is overheating. Things get a bit complicated from there, but sometimes you get lucky. Not sure how much time I'd put into an RX580, it's not a bad little card but they're not exactly expensive to replace.
You have to hit at least 220C to melt lead free solder, at which point your display ports will start to melt. So you have to remove them regardless. Someone else commented here they baked theirs at 190C and it worked. But this means the most likely scenario was that the DP or HDMI port was worn and baking caused enough deformation of the plastic to tighten it back up and make contact. They definitely didn't melt the solder at 190C. Anyone with some board repair knowledge would never bake a GPU. And it isn't that hard to reball some VRAM chips. Of course, you would run a VRAM test to identify the faulty chip(s) and just do those so you might be reballing one or two chips. It is also important to keep in mind this symptom could be caused by a faulty VRAM chip or maybe something else, like a bad capacitor or broken trace. You might look at the board and see a blown capacitor and the fix is way easier than baking a GPU in the oven. Could even be that someone broke off a component or two somewhere along the way. But it is your GPU so if you want to go straight for the nuclear option, that's your choice. It is also worth noting that most people report baking their GPU as a temporary fix and a lot of the time it doesn't work at all. In fact, if you successfully get the solder melted, you can end up with components shifting or even falling off altogether, thereby compounding your issues.
@@Lurch-Bot If you have the knowledge and required tools to fix it "properly" then sure, that is the better option, but I've had a couple of cards fixed with the oven trick that was showing a very similar behaviour to this one (weird colours and stripes all over the screen), and they went strong for years after that, so seems like people have very different experiences. If the alternative is to scrap the card (which is sort of hinted in this video) then I'd definitely consider the Bake before chugging it in the bin. It's a quick'n'dirty (potential) fix but if you want to consider return on investment there's also a limit to how much time it's worth spending on investigating individual components for a fairly obsolete card - unless you do it solely for the challenge, of course.
@@Mox2077 Agreed. They sell many products and adhesives that you can wrap around heat sensitive components to boot. I have done this to great effect while I had no solder station, decent multimeter or desolder kits from vacuum to wick lol. Now that I have them again, I tend to skew towards finding the issue and solving it however when I thought it was just a loose component while not having testing equipment, and loose is usually the case, the oven method will fix it.
Another great video. I love seeing you try out these dice roll preowned computers off of ebay and the care you put into them getting them working and making them perform better. The gaming computers you fix or put together are plenty nifty for the needs of most people.
Hey man ! I don't often watch UA-cam anymore, but I just want to say, it's always a treat to see your videos pop in my feed. I've been a watcher/lurker for years. Keep doing what you're doing, your videos make my day :)
Since I moved to Germany, I tried my luck on Ebay - kleinanzeigen and I got a used PC for 200 Euros - Core i5 - 6500 - GTX 1060 - 6GB - 16 GB DDR4 RAM - 512GB SATA SSD I am very much happy with it, atleast I can game for few years and then upgrade to better system once I am settled.
4c non HT CPUs are really sucking for recent games. The 1060 lacks DX12U support, which will be necessary for a lot of AAA releases moving forward. That will be more of an issue than only having 6GB VRAM because you can always use lossless scaling to improve your results and stay within the VRAM limit by simply rendering at a lower resolution and upscaling. I'm currently playing Forza Horizon 4 at 1440p60 on a 4th gen i7 and a GTX 670 SC 2GB. The GPU is actually rendering the game at 720p30.
Great deal. So long as it makes you happy, that's all that matters. If you are daring enough and have a motherboard that will work with it, you can use Coffee Time and place up to a 10th gen Intel processor in your motherboard, so plenty to upgrade too! Good luck and enjoy your machine!
Stupid question, but why I can understand you speaking so well, and have troubles understanding other England based creators. It's not my native language, so I mostly watch Americans. Also love your content, there are so many great hardware that can be reused, great work as always.
That's a nice find! Recently I saved my dead GPU by putting it in the oven for 10 min at 190 C. Worked wonders, a month later it's still perfectly fine.
That doesn't fix the issue. Something needs to be reballed. A "reflow" is just a temporary fix. Like putting a black sticker or electric tape on the "check engine" -light on a vehicle.
@@krypton1260 Yeah, I get it. I know people call it a temporary fix but I've seen comments online where people say their cards have been working for years after they gave it an oven session. So far it's performing fine so I don't expect it to die again soon after a month of daily use.
My favorite channel to be honest. I am done though with salvaging parts as i have done for ages like this. I scored a 12400 with 8GB and 512Gb for £150 some weeks ago brand new in an Ideacentre 3 i just won't bother with older machines anymore even if it's fun. It's replacing a vanilla i5 2400 running Mint but i have more powerful machines as well.
That'd be a dream system for my server stuff. Putting Proxmox over it, slapping in a small GPU like an Intel Arc 310 or 380 and have it run things like immich, Plex/Jellyfin or small game servers - that CPU would be very capable for that.
Arc sees a massive hit to performance without reBAR. AMD RDNA2, not so much. You won't get much running well, game wise, and would be better served with an RX6600.
@Lurch-Bot never did I say I'd be running games on this configuration? Game servers are dependent on the CPU, not the GPU, thankfully, and the transcoding is not really dependent on ReBAR. For AV1 support, it's way cheaper than any other card out there.
You have me searching Ebay for parts now. I custom built mine in 2015 and still rocking a 3770k and 16 gigs of ram. I have a very limited budget so I hope I can find one of these deals that I always seem to miss. Dust is a killer of boards, especially in damp areas as the damp will cling to the dust. Not so much a problem when it is running all the time, but when turned on after extended period of time of not being used it will tend to short circuit things.
9:18 I always do motherboard cleaning with the CPU installed in the socket, that way you don't risk any debris getting stuck in it and making it not work.
I dont think it will change much with performance, but it may be worth plopping a heatsink on that "southbridge" to the right the PCIe slots. I imagine thats the board chipset and its probably being adequately cooled by the exhaust of the gpu but having the exposed chip may get knocked by something. Love your vids, keep up the good work :)
Leaves the CPU socket pins fully exposed, then hits the PC with the air duster and throws years worth of unspeakable 'bits' at it - RGinHD really is a realm where older machines go to be brutally tested, and only the strong survive. Exactly as it should be!
Honestly that 3050 isnt that limited i think these 2 parts are a pretty good match. Also 8:00 thats not a preference thing but you probably know that but in case you dont you should always refer to the manual which ones to use first. But yes in modern times it often is the slots further away. That being said, nice video and cool find tho!
Tip: never use air blower when the fans still plugged in to the motherboard, they can generate electricity if the fans starts spinning and can short the mb and kill it
I was concerned about that as for some reason I thought this was an old PC but nowadays, if the mobo manufacturer doesn't have protections in place for that.... That's like bare minimum or should be nowadays
I would always upgrade the cpu cooler for gaming computers tbh, and maybe the case fans too, additional RGB maybe, they will find a way to glow even from solid cases. Or would you mod the sidepanel for tiny window ? Get your money with simple mods.
When doing the heatgun 'trick' remember to give the memory modules a blast as well. Those I found are a problem more often that the GPU itself. The sodder balls often get damaged, so re-flowing them with heat helps. I fixed a few cards that way. Not ideal sure, but it's cheap and if it doesn't work then hey no harm no faul, right?
Honestly - the quick swap HDD slots would be GREAT for diagnostics or more commercial ventures. OR, if you wanted to make a simple RAID. I do like that case a lot.
Honestly.... what a great score imo!!! Awesome looking case and I'd do a motherboard / cpu / gpu etc upgrade and put in new LED strips fro the lighting. I love the pc case has 2x Hotswap HDD bays too :D
Great thing about your channel..I get to see someone die in game more than I do lol. Man you got a great pick up on that Omen. Great video as always. Stay Blessed and much love from here in Tennessee.
Ive actually been pretty curios about what the 7700 non k can do. Theres not a lot out there on youtube. I "built" my nephew a little starter pc a couple years ago, just an optiplex with a 7700 16gb ddr3 and an rx 6400. Im curious what i could sneak in there that would be worth the upgrade. Power supply being the biggest thing holding me back. Been thinking of slapping my old 2060 in there, but i think im more interested than he is 😂
My word, last time I watched you was when I was hella poor and wanted to order a CPU off aliexpress lol... I think I saw a video like 6-7 years back with a 50$ build, took inspiration and made my first ever gaming pc with a gtx 770. Had to cut out the case just to fit the gpu lol
Vertical stripes like this often relates to vram-errors. You should try the heatgun on them. Tipp: Use low viscosity flux (like CS-Flux) when doing any kind of "reflow".
Hi there! I have a similar system, maybe a bit more recent. with i5 8600k, aio liquid cooling (single fan), 8 gb ram, etc. First off I guess you already noticed, but the correction about air duster instead of the heatgun was misplaced in the time line, being on 8:20 instead of 8:54. Also I wouldn't suggest to blast air on the motherboard when the CPU is not installed, debris could an happily would get caught on the socket pins...
I ran across an RX 570 that was producing the vertical lines but with a pink screen variant. I took it apart gave it a good cleaning and pasting like you did and still no luck. I learned how to reflash the Bios and that did the trick for me. I've since did the same to an RX 480 that produced a solid black screen. Maybe try and give that a shot since there's not much to lose. You still got a steal of a deal with that PC imo.
@RandomGaminginHD If you're going to use the heatgun revival method, you need to remember to inject liquid flux under the GPU die package. Otherwise the solder balls oxidize and get mucked up under the package. And be generous with the flux.
Considering the RX 580 is an OC's RX 480 I can see it giving up at some point. I sadly have the same issue with GPU's I do bake them in the oven and it works sometimes, but 2 of the 3 successes I had stopped working again some months later again. It's never a permanent fix, and I can't do resoldering myself. >.< Also afaik Ram-Slot 2 & 4 are the one's shorter connected to the CPU, as the traces then go from slot 2 to 1 and from 4 to 3, so if you use 1 and 3, you use just a bit longer traces to get to your ram modules.
I would love to have this system to replace my 3rd gen intel platform! To bad it would probably cost a fortune to ship to Alabama from the UK. I guess I'll just continue keeping my eyes peeled for something similar on ebay, lol! Another great video from my favorite british PC enthusiast!
Today I finally upgraded my personal system from i3 12100f to an i512100f and holy cow it runs so much snappier now (not relevant to the video but thought I’d share what made me a happy man today)
I loved this little cleanup vid. Am a fan since 2018 and would like to know if you have any really really cheap parts or systems i can buy from you for 20euro or under
With the color stripes on the screen, I'm guessing the card has one or more bad RAM chips, or chips with broken BGA connections. Also possible the GPU ASIC has broken BGA connections from being overheated due to the dust. Reballing it and replacing the RAM might revive the card.
You can get a lot of enjoyment for $50 + a cheap GPU. And I'm pretty sure that's an ATX system so with a little ingenuity, you can reuse that case. Those hot swappable drive cages are sweet
That GPU shroud and PCIE backplate looked so old I thought it was a card from the HD 7000-series, makes it a little bit sad that it’s a RX580 since a RX580 isn’t as “disposable”. Still a really good price without the GPU, a decent chunk of money left too to make this a perfect candidate for a Steam Deck crusher
That looks like you did not get that bad of a deal good job keep it up❤ I was hoping that somebody would get me something like that for my birthday but it looks like they're not going to
Dont know if you did this to your 580, but i always go at the top of the card with Isopropyl alcohol and wipe it off with a toothbrush that i use for cleaning. And if i find any other parts of the card that are dirty, i clean it too. It amazes me how much dirt and crap that sticks to the top of the card, getting sucked in the system and just exhumed from the CPU cooler right down on the GPU. Have saved countless cards with this simple fix. :)
oh nice, the 7700 runs at almost exactly the same frequency as the i3-12100! i'm pretty sure you've compared the 7700k and 12100f before but it's interesting to consider the non-k 7700 with the slightly lower clocks.
Oh man those HP Omen xxL prebuilts... they are made to suffer. Got one to diagnose and it had 5900X cooled by 120mm AIO and it was overheating. RTX 3080 HP OEM model, man just google those, their cooling is insufficient without some tinkering with thermal pads and/or paste. Hotshot jumped to 104c when gpu temp was 70c and it ran like 1500MHz from the start and slowly throttle more to 1200MHz D: And I mean these weren't the problems why it came in, it just shut down while gaming or benchmarking. It had 750/850W HP Platinum rated PSU but all these things and 3080 transient spikes counted it, it just couldn't handle. Kernel Power 41 (63) error came everytime it shut down itself.
One last thing that might give the rx580 life is to bake it to resolder everything. Did it once to a gtx 960 when it had green, blue and even red stripes and it fixed it, still sold it as a defect since idk if this is a long term solution.
I feel like lenovo had some allround decent deals fairly often, couple months back i got a decent ryzen 7/rtx3070 build for around €850, served me well so far
I have PTSD with this PC. My brother had one in this case and was a pain in the 4ss doing any kind of maintenance (not to mention the lack of a switch in the stock PSU and proprietary MOBO)
I love how you always show the computer bits and chips and stuff against a backdrop of foliage. That juxtaposition of high tech and natural beauty is strangely appealing.
I do this on eBay when I sell tech parts and notice that those listings are always absolute bangers that sell for the nice price - you're right about it having a strangely good effect
@@zXTyRaNTXzThat’s because the buyers know that you touched grass.
True
Why is everyone using 'juxtaposition' all of a sudden
I believe he does it throughout the seasons depending on weather
Good buy. This week I picked up a Lenovo Think Centre P320 with;
- i7 7700
- 16GB DDR4 2400
- 512GB SSD
- nVidia Quadro P2000 (5GB GDDR5)
- 400w Platinum PSU
for £41. Think I did quite well!
Very nice!
@@RandomGaminginHD the Quadro card makes the deal on its own tbh. Got a machine with a dying 660ti that only gets used for office / multimedia stuff so it'll go in there nicely and use a bit less power.
Rest of the machine I think I'll try and hackintosh as a bit of a project with something like an RX560 for compatibility reasons.
Dude the Platinum PSU alone is worth near 40 quid
My specs are very similar to yours. I have an older HP Envy with the 17 7700, 16GB DDR4 2400, but with a 2TB hard drive (I'll get an SSD eventually), RTX 4060ti and RedDragon 600w PSU (it's four years old and still works great).
I just thought I'd let you know that you can get a much better mid-range GPU down the road without their being a CPU bottleneck. My CPU usage varies between 60-85% with the higher end being in highly populated areas of CP2077 and RDR2. I don't know where you live, but when I had to replace my dying RTX 2060 a couple of months ago, I found the RTX 4060ti was only $50 more than a RTX 3060ti while also using less power. If you can, get at least an RTX 4060 to take advantage of DLSS3 in some games. (CP2077 in particular off the top of my head.)
daaaaaaaamn! Thats like what I build for people on pc building simulator 2! pretty new intel cpu, for where you're digging! that is insane for 41 pounds! and is it really a platinum psu? or just white? still amazing!
I watched you years ago when you had a few thousand subs, and now to see you over half a million is amazing! I'm so thrilled for you, bro. You should be proud.
Listen man, you have one of the most wholesome channels on this platform. Please don't get yourself involved in controversy, lol. This platform needs you legit. Much love bro.
Dude is the Bob Ross of computer stuff. Oztalkshardware and him doing a video together would be epic
@@balaam_7087 Agreed, along with Daniel Owen. I feel like the toasty bros are just as wholesome, but when it comes to the quality of their content, it seems like they unfortunately, pump out what feels like the same video over and over again and that their channel really is built for people are looking to put together a build as opposed to us tech enthusiasts (which is absolutely okay, they just target a different, although overlapping, audience) I mean I watch every one of them lol, and they seem like great guys judging by their attitude and how they helped that streamer who was going to sell his gaming set up to help his child afford treatment for an illness or something like that, and instead of taking the money, they GAVE HIM MONEY AND LET HIM KEEP THE PC, and I respect that because it feels genuine too, they get more than enough views on their videos so it wasn't for clicks, but I feel like tech UA-cam is actually in a fantastic place right now with a lot of great content creators getting involved. I think I'm gonna dip my toes in the water so, but my job requires me to not use my actual name or face, so I need to learn how to be anonymous, and still monetize my videos. Guess I'd have to use an alias, but I build and sell computers as a side job, and a lot of the time I'm doing OptiPlex retrofits, and I'm very outgoing and have a personality for it as I'm a performer and used to be the frontman of my old band back in high school, so I think I can make some great content.
@@balaam_7087 Agreed, along with Daniel Owen. I feel like the toasty bros are just as wholesome, but when it comes to the quality of their content, it seems like they unfortunately, pump out what feels like the same video over and over again and that their channel really is built for people are looking to put together a build as opposed to us tech enthusiasts (which is absolutely okay, they just target a different, although overlapping, audience) I mean I watch every one of them lol, and they seem like great guys judging by their attitude and how they helped that streamer who was going to sell his gaming set up to help his child afford treatment for an illness or something like that, and instead of taking the money, they GAVE HIM MONEY AND LET HIM KEEP THE PC. I've got to respect that. It feels genuine too, they get more than enough views on their videos so it wasn't for clicks, but I feel like tech UA-cam is actually in a Fantastic place right now.
And zwormz gaming
AMD used to be team green. Until they adopted ati identity, they became team red.
yeah, athlon xp family had green logo, got a sticker hanging on my desk from - oh the time flies - 20 years ago
that was so long ago, another life
back then i dont remember them being called team green, that was nvidia
Is that good or bad?
First pc I built when I moved out on my own was an Athlon xp3000+ with 512mb ram and a 9600pro.
The OMEN theme was all RED, not related to ATI at all.
single best guy who truly uploads for budget gamers
0:01 Nice Ventriloquism act lol
😁
Bro looked kinda disappointed ngl.
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@@RandomGaminginHD anybody ever told you, you look rather british? ;)
Bang in a used GPU - perfect budget gaming rig
Great for Indie gaming, too. As long as you stay away from AAA gaming, it'll last for years to come.
Some Indie games works on potato @@ScreamingTc
We've all played Portal 2.... I hope.
Yep. Some AAA would be fine on low settings, too.
With a rx 580 its a crazy cheap 1080p high /medium pc
You should place RAM sticks based on what the motherboard manual says. Not your personal preference. It absolutely does matter.
No need fancy studio or offices, just a beautiful backyard is good enough. Love your channel since 2019 😁
The 7700 is the most valuable part of the system! Even used they fetch over 100 bucks. I missed a pretty good deal recently and have been kicking myself since
Kicking myself over a deal I found June 19th. A working MSI Cyborg 15 A12VF for $70.99. I didn't have money in my paypal so I asked my friend to let me borrow $100. By the time they responded the laptop was already sold. lol
The unbuttoned polo shirt showing your chest hair really suits you, makes you look like a character from the Sopranos
he knows a guy who knows a guy lol
Haha thanks. Amazing TV show!
I was thinking he looked like Matthew Perry, the late Friends star, myself.
He reminds me of Michael Schumacher for some reason
That wasn't my impression. Last time I saw someone dressed like that was at a gay bar.
getting that much dust inside a pc is a skill. i don't know how ppl do it haha
those pre builts are for people buying the spec they need, get used, and sold when replaced
all that for a good price, so why bother
people with carpets my guess..thick carpets
This is what happens when you live in the dusty city and never dust your house
@@mrmarr8308 thats not city dust thats textile
Usually when you change clothes in the same room or dont vacuum enough
I'd leave for college and every device in our house would look like that by the end of the semester. No one wants to know how to maintenance or work on the magic black boxes, they just want them to work lmfao
This is, far and away, the coolest ~12 minute video on UA-cam.
Been following for a while but haven’t watched your vids in a year or so, I can tell you’ve lost some weight! Keep it up my guy! Nice review too 👍
Welcome back!
@@RandomGaminginHDU indeed look very good keep up the good work buddy
Have you considered baking the GPU in the oven? Longer process but more efficient than the heatgun trick ... most likely the "stripes" are due to some soldering not properly connecting, most likely on the video memory, so worth a shot.
My usual test is to first see if any capacitors are domed, in which case it's a few cents to fix (pennies for our good friend in the UK), then carefully look everything over with a magnifying glass and look for dry solder joins or broken traces, which are also simple to fix. If that doesn't work, time to break out the thermal camera to see if anything obvious is overheating. Things get a bit complicated from there, but sometimes you get lucky. Not sure how much time I'd put into an RX580, it's not a bad little card but they're not exactly expensive to replace.
You have to hit at least 220C to melt lead free solder, at which point your display ports will start to melt. So you have to remove them regardless. Someone else commented here they baked theirs at 190C and it worked. But this means the most likely scenario was that the DP or HDMI port was worn and baking caused enough deformation of the plastic to tighten it back up and make contact. They definitely didn't melt the solder at 190C.
Anyone with some board repair knowledge would never bake a GPU. And it isn't that hard to reball some VRAM chips. Of course, you would run a VRAM test to identify the faulty chip(s) and just do those so you might be reballing one or two chips. It is also important to keep in mind this symptom could be caused by a faulty VRAM chip or maybe something else, like a bad capacitor or broken trace. You might look at the board and see a blown capacitor and the fix is way easier than baking a GPU in the oven. Could even be that someone broke off a component or two somewhere along the way.
But it is your GPU so if you want to go straight for the nuclear option, that's your choice. It is also worth noting that most people report baking their GPU as a temporary fix and a lot of the time it doesn't work at all. In fact, if you successfully get the solder melted, you can end up with components shifting or even falling off altogether, thereby compounding your issues.
@@Lurch-Bot If you have the knowledge and required tools to fix it "properly" then sure, that is the better option, but I've had a couple of cards fixed with the oven trick that was showing a very similar behaviour to this one (weird colours and stripes all over the screen), and they went strong for years after that, so seems like people have very different experiences. If the alternative is to scrap the card (which is sort of hinted in this video) then I'd definitely consider the Bake before chugging it in the bin. It's a quick'n'dirty (potential) fix but if you want to consider return on investment there's also a limit to how much time it's worth spending on investigating individual components for a fairly obsolete card - unless you do it solely for the challenge, of course.
@@Mox2077 Agreed. They sell many products and adhesives that you can wrap around heat sensitive components to boot. I have done this to great effect while I had no solder station, decent multimeter or desolder kits from vacuum to wick lol. Now that I have them again, I tend to skew towards finding the issue and solving it however when I thought it was just a loose component while not having testing equipment, and loose is usually the case, the oven method will fix it.
Snowing in the middle of June sounds like a typical "great" British summer.
Another great video. I love seeing you try out these dice roll preowned computers off of ebay and the care you put into them getting them working and making them perform better. The gaming computers you fix or put together are plenty nifty for the needs of most people.
Hey man ! I don't often watch UA-cam anymore, but I just want to say, it's always a treat to see your videos pop in my feed. I've been a watcher/lurker for years. Keep doing what you're doing, your videos make my day :)
And also zwormz gaming
Since I moved to Germany, I tried my luck on Ebay - kleinanzeigen and I got a used PC for 200 Euros
- Core i5 - 6500
- GTX 1060 - 6GB
- 16 GB DDR4 RAM
- 512GB SATA SSD
I am very much happy with it, atleast I can game for few years and then upgrade to better system once I am settled.
4c non HT CPUs are really sucking for recent games. The 1060 lacks DX12U support, which will be necessary for a lot of AAA releases moving forward. That will be more of an issue than only having 6GB VRAM because you can always use lossless scaling to improve your results and stay within the VRAM limit by simply rendering at a lower resolution and upscaling.
I'm currently playing Forza Horizon 4 at 1440p60 on a 4th gen i7 and a GTX 670 SC 2GB. The GPU is actually rendering the game at 720p30.
Great deal. So long as it makes you happy, that's all that matters. If you are daring enough and have a motherboard that will work with it, you can use Coffee Time and place up to a 10th gen Intel processor in your motherboard, so plenty to upgrade too! Good luck and enjoy your machine!
Brilliant find. A gtx 1070 would make a great pairing for the i7-7700 and can be found for around £85 now.
Stupid question, but why I can understand you speaking so well, and have troubles understanding other England based creators. It's not my native language, so I mostly watch Americans.
Also love your content, there are so many great hardware that can be reused, great work as always.
That's a nice find!
Recently I saved my dead GPU by putting it in the oven for 10 min at 190 C. Worked wonders, a month later it's still perfectly fine.
It will 100% die sooner or later
That doesn't fix the issue. Something needs to be reballed. A "reflow" is just a temporary fix. Like putting a black sticker or electric tape on the "check engine" -light on a vehicle.
@@krypton1260 Yeah, I get it. I know people call it a temporary fix but I've seen comments online where people say their cards have been working for years after they gave it an oven session.
So far it's performing fine so I don't expect it to die again soon after a month of daily use.
@@krypton1260 It doesn't need to be reballed, the issue is with the chip's inside itself.
nice.. now enjoy whatever food you put in that oven. with all those solder fumes it should give extra taste to it 😂
I have the same Omen. It came with a ryzen and a gtx 1060 3gb. The storage expansion on these omens is pretty cool
My favorite channel to be honest. I am done though with salvaging parts as i have done for ages like this. I scored a 12400 with 8GB and 512Gb for £150 some weeks ago brand new in an Ideacentre 3 i just won't bother with older machines anymore even if it's fun. It's replacing a vanilla i5 2400 running Mint but i have more powerful machines as well.
And also ZwormZ gaming
I have the same airduster...had it years......saved so much money on canned compressed air
I bought that same cleaner/blower a few days ago! excellent bit of kit!
That'd be a dream system for my server stuff. Putting Proxmox over it, slapping in a small GPU like an Intel Arc 310 or 380 and have it run things like immich, Plex/Jellyfin or small game servers - that CPU would be very capable for that.
Interesting take. I might have to learn immich, Plex and Jellyfin.
Arc sees a massive hit to performance without reBAR. AMD RDNA2, not so much. You won't get much running well, game wise, and would be better served with an RX6600.
@Lurch-Bot never did I say I'd be running games on this configuration?
Game servers are dependent on the CPU, not the GPU, thankfully, and the transcoding is not really dependent on ReBAR. For AV1 support, it's way cheaper than any other card out there.
You have me searching Ebay for parts now. I custom built mine in 2015 and still rocking a 3770k and 16 gigs of ram. I have a very limited budget so I hope I can find one of these deals that I always seem to miss. Dust is a killer of boards, especially in damp areas as the damp will cling to the dust. Not so much a problem when it is running all the time, but when turned on after extended period of time of not being used it will tend to short circuit things.
9:18 I always do motherboard cleaning with the CPU installed in the socket, that way you don't risk any debris getting stuck in it and making it not work.
I dont think it will change much with performance, but it may be worth plopping a heatsink on that "southbridge" to the right the PCIe slots. I imagine thats the board chipset and its probably being adequately cooled by the exhaust of the gpu but having the exposed chip may get knocked by something. Love your vids, keep up the good work :)
Leaves the CPU socket pins fully exposed, then hits the PC with the air duster and throws years worth of unspeakable 'bits' at it - RGinHD really is a realm where older machines go to be brutally tested, and only the strong survive. Exactly as it should be!
Honestly that 3050 isnt that limited i think these 2 parts are a pretty good match.
Also 8:00 thats not a preference thing but you probably know that but in case you dont you should always refer to the manual which ones to use first. But yes in modern times it often is the slots further away.
That being said, nice video and cool find tho!
Tip: never use air blower when the fans still plugged in to the motherboard, they can generate electricity if the fans starts spinning and can short the mb and kill it
I was concerned about that as for some reason I thought this was an old PC but nowadays, if the mobo manufacturer doesn't have protections in place for that.... That's like bare minimum or should be nowadays
I did not thought this was rx 580. I thought it was maybe rx 550 looking at the size of gpu
Yeah seems to be hp exclusive. I’ve tested the 8gb one before but this only has 4
@@RandomGaminginHD HP makes their own GPU's, just a Dual RTX 580 4Gb as others did sell back then. The cheaper RTX 1080 cards.
@@lucasrem theres no such thing as an "rtx1080"
@@lucasremthere's no such thing as rtx 580 either
@@lucasremRTX 580 and RTX 1080.. what the hell are you smoking bro 😂
I would always upgrade the cpu cooler for gaming computers tbh, and maybe the case fans too, additional RGB maybe, they will find a way to glow even from solid cases.
Or would you mod the sidepanel for tiny window ? Get your money with simple mods.
thumbnail got me thinking you started an OF page
He should
@@pokepokepoke64 Nice british tan.
😂😂
there are a lot of fans in this video...
@ironv8121 it’s a joke
What a class thumbnail. Love it.
😁
Try the heat gun on the ddr chips and see if that sorts the graphics card.
When doing the heatgun 'trick' remember to give the memory modules a blast as well. Those I found are a problem more often that the GPU itself. The sodder balls often get damaged, so re-flowing them with heat helps. I fixed a few cards that way. Not ideal sure, but it's cheap and if it doesn't work then hey no harm no faul, right?
Honestly - the quick swap HDD slots would be GREAT for diagnostics or more commercial ventures. OR, if you wanted to make a simple RAID. I do like that case a lot.
Honestly.... what a great score imo!!! Awesome looking case and I'd do a motherboard / cpu / gpu etc upgrade and put in new LED strips fro the lighting. I love the pc case has 2x Hotswap HDD bays too :D
Great thing about your channel..I get to see someone die in game more than I do lol. Man you got a great pick up on that Omen. Great video as always. Stay Blessed and much love from here in Tennessee.
Ive actually been pretty curios about what the 7700 non k can do. Theres not a lot out there on youtube. I "built" my nephew a little starter pc a couple years ago, just an optiplex with a 7700 16gb ddr3 and an rx 6400. Im curious what i could sneak in there that would be worth the upgrade. Power supply being the biggest thing holding me back. Been thinking of slapping my old 2060 in there, but i think im more interested than he is 😂
The electronic air gun sounds like a good idea. I never bought compressed air because I don't like the idea of having to buy refills.
I'm surprised the seller didn't try what you did first - removing the gpu and plugging in the iGPU.
My word, last time I watched you was when I was hella poor and wanted to order a CPU off aliexpress lol... I think I saw a video like 6-7 years back with a 50$ build, took inspiration and made my first ever gaming pc with a gtx 770. Had to cut out the case just to fit the gpu lol
Nice, I have the same air duster. Great video, relaxing to watch as always.
Vertical stripes like this often relates to vram-errors. You should try the heatgun on them. Tipp: Use low viscosity flux (like CS-Flux) when doing any kind of "reflow".
What air duster are you using, I've been wary of buying one of these as I didn't think they were very powerful but the one you are using seems good
That was an exciting HP Omen pc. I have never seen one of those PCs before.
I use a i7 7700 in my daily driver at the moment (admin and media, no gaming) and it's one of the coolest running Intel chips I've ever had.
Hi there! I have a similar system, maybe a bit more recent. with i5 8600k, aio liquid cooling (single fan), 8 gb ram, etc.
First off I guess you already noticed, but the correction about air duster instead of the heatgun was misplaced in the time line, being on 8:20 instead of 8:54.
Also I wouldn't suggest to blast air on the motherboard when the CPU is not installed, debris could an happily would get caught on the socket pins...
I find squashing the tip of a cotton bud, dipping it in some ispropanol, then cleaning the hdmi and display port contacts, often works.
You can coffee time those boards and socket up to a 10th gen processor on it with some simple modding. For reference.
You ought to hold your fans stationary when blasting them with air. Spinning a fan faster than they're designed for can cause bearing damage.
Always cover the socket when dusting like that, dust is usually very difficult to remove from an LGA socket
That was the perfect amount of thermal paste. Good job.
Blue PCB AMD cards are normally Sapphire mfg but could be a specific run for HP which would also explain the blue which may well be sapphire anyway.
I ran across an RX 570 that was producing the vertical lines but with a pink screen variant. I took it apart gave it a good cleaning and pasting like you did and still no luck. I learned how to reflash the Bios and that did the trick for me. I've since did the same to an RX 480 that produced a solid black screen. Maybe try and give that a shot since there's not much to lose. You still got a steal of a deal with that PC imo.
@RandomGaminginHD
If you're going to use the heatgun revival method, you need to remember to inject liquid flux under the GPU die package. Otherwise the solder balls oxidize and get mucked up under the package. And be generous with the flux.
Considering the RX 580 is an OC's RX 480 I can see it giving up at some point. I sadly have the same issue with GPU's I do bake them in the oven and it works sometimes, but 2 of the 3 successes I had stopped working again some months later again. It's never a permanent fix, and I can't do resoldering myself. >.<
Also afaik Ram-Slot 2 & 4 are the one's shorter connected to the CPU, as the traces then go from slot 2 to 1 and from 4 to 3, so if you use 1 and 3, you use just a bit longer traces to get to your ram modules.
Just a tip, let the cpu inside the Motherboard while cleaning
A nice, wholesome story arc of the dusty £50 HP OMEN PC. My only concern is that I would avoid to blast air onto exposed LGA CPU sockets.
9:00 I think you should leave the cpu in the socket while cleaning
8:48 Never thought of using a heat gun to remove dust, I'll have to try it some time 😛
I would love to have this system to replace my 3rd gen intel platform! To bad it would probably cost a fortune to ship to Alabama from the UK. I guess I'll just continue keeping my eyes peeled for something similar on ebay, lol! Another great video from my favorite british PC enthusiast!
I can build and ship ya one from FL. I have a bunch of parts laying around and can source the rest. Just give me a budget.
Gaming PC and touching grass
Bro is living the life
Today I finally upgraded my personal system from i3 12100f to an i512100f and holy cow it runs so much snappier now (not relevant to the video but thought I’d share what made me a happy man today)
Can you test a fx 8300 and 960 combo? Thanks big fan
I have an FX 8350 with RTX 2070 Super, anything in particular you are looking to test on the FX8300/GTX960?
He needed a big fan for this PC 😉
Just back from Ebay hunting and just the I7 CPU has been selling for around 60 on bid.
I think it was the air duster you used on the cpu cooler, you said heat gun in the video
I loved this little cleanup vid. Am a fan since 2018 and would like to know if you have any really really cheap parts or systems i can buy from you for 20euro or under
With the color stripes on the screen, I'm guessing the card has one or more bad RAM chips, or chips with broken BGA connections. Also possible the GPU ASIC has broken BGA connections from being overheated due to the dust.
Reballing it and replacing the RAM might revive the card.
Great purchase. The CPU alone sells for almost twice what you paid for the whole thing. I don't know why but the i7 7700 is remarkably expensive.
9:00 Do that when the CPU is still in the socket by the way, I lost overclocking and IGP after I made that mistake :(
You can get a lot of enjoyment for $50 + a cheap GPU. And I'm pretty sure that's an ATX system so with a little ingenuity, you can reuse that case. Those hot swappable drive cages are sweet
That GPU shroud and PCIE backplate looked so old I thought it was a card from the HD 7000-series, makes it a little bit sad that it’s a RX580 since a RX580 isn’t as “disposable”. Still a really good price without the GPU, a decent chunk of money left too to make this a perfect candidate for a Steam Deck crusher
Blasting dust all over the exposed socket. You absolute mad lad. Nothing but balls
9:18 - Not a good idea to blow that much dust around with that open CPU socket.
That looks like you did not get that bad of a deal good job keep it up❤ I was hoping that somebody would get me something like that for my birthday but it looks like they're not going to
Dont know if you did this to your 580, but i always go at the top of the card with Isopropyl alcohol and wipe it off with a toothbrush that i use for cleaning.
And if i find any other parts of the card that are dirty, i clean it too.
It amazes me how much dirt and crap that sticks to the top of the card, getting sucked in the system and just exhumed from the CPU cooler right down on the GPU.
Have saved countless cards with this simple fix. :)
Those vertical bars on the 580 looked like the vram died, but I don't think the gpu is worth replacing each bga ram chip.
I really liked the thumbnail of this video! :)
In our high school we had 10 yo pc s and the school replaced the oldest ones with these and they are planing on upgrading all other ones
oh nice, the 7700 runs at almost exactly the same frequency as the i3-12100! i'm pretty sure you've compared the 7700k and 12100f before but it's interesting to consider the non-k 7700 with the slightly lower clocks.
Was very surprised to see that's an RX 580. With that small cooler, 6pin power connector and short length, I was thinking it's an RX 560.
Decent buy off of eBay, well done.
Super vid, worth our watch time 👍 once again.
Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.
Oh man those HP Omen xxL prebuilts... they are made to suffer. Got one to diagnose and it had 5900X cooled by 120mm AIO and it was overheating. RTX 3080 HP OEM model, man just google those, their cooling is insufficient without some tinkering with thermal pads and/or paste. Hotshot jumped to 104c when gpu temp was 70c and it ran like 1500MHz from the start and slowly throttle more to 1200MHz D: And I mean these weren't the problems why it came in, it just shut down while gaming or benchmarking. It had 750/850W HP Platinum rated PSU but all these things and 3080 transient spikes counted it, it just couldn't handle. Kernel Power 41 (63) error came everytime it shut down itself.
It would be fun to see a video about other attempts to revive the rx580
What air blower model is that. I need to purchase one
Yeah It looks mighty
Great video as always! Would you mind sharing with us what duster do you use?
Nasty amount of dust when you powered it on at first lol.
the heat gun haha, i remember fixing a ps3 with a hairdryer and some towels like that
One last thing that might give the rx580 life is to bake it to resolder everything. Did it once to a gtx 960 when it had green, blue and even red stripes and it fixed it, still sold it as a defect since idk if this is a long term solution.
The dust in the card caused over heating and over time cooked it. Cleaning your pc once a year is a plus lol
I feel like lenovo had some allround decent deals fairly often, couple months back i got a decent ryzen 7/rtx3070 build for around €850, served me well so far
G'day Random,
I like the look of that case & a replacement RX580 or GTX1060/1650S/1660 would make it a great 1080p gaming PC again
I have PTSD with this PC. My brother had one in this case and was a pain in the 4ss doing any kind of maintenance (not to mention the lack of a switch in the stock PSU and proprietary MOBO)
What's the brand and reference of the air duster?