XD you just spent R15 000 to test how good your wine mentor is. Well played sir well played. But if your a south african you can tell he is serious buisness.
Not going to lie, the master is quite amazing and entertaining with his details and deductions. A very experienced man full of humorous that if you just let him sit for awhile, he'll catch you laughing when you breathe. That's a quality master you can't get anywhere else in the world. The episode has a lot of flavor to it. ...Wait, am I describing the wine or the master?
This guy really knows his stuff, he knew he was right and didn’t ever accept the fake results for a second. That really shows the level of confidence he has in his expertise. Really impressive.
It’s not. Anyone with basic level of systematic wine tasting can tell the difference. We are talking about getting confused between a Ferrari and a Kia when you get into the car.
@@ericcowan8008 He wasn't wrong. Did you bother to watch the entire video? The "results" were faked on purpose to see if he had the skill to know the difference even when presented with false information.
You can get into the hobby without spending a lot. I know plenty of very passionate, knowledgable people in the wine hobby who’s pleasure comes from finding gems in the lower price points. You don’t need to spend a lot to get a lot in this hobby, providing you’re ok with not knowing what is possible in wine (first growths such as in the video)
I mean he passionately raved about about the $12 wine too. If he was adamant about being correct about the expensive wine, I would trust he's not lying about being able to find great, cheap wine.
It depends a bit on your market but there are really good, inexpensive wines. Although inexpensive is also relative, I would say there simply is no great wine for 2 Euros, but there are very good ones for about 10-15. At least here in Europe there is a massive quality increase when you from 5, to 10, to 15 Euro (as long as you look for good deals)
Notice how he went from humbly saying "ahhh the possibility is there I'm absolutely wrong" to "I"M NOT WRONG"...That's a good wine right there, two more sips, and grandpa will be picking fights with the furniture
Not gonna lie, from my biased pov, I always thought that the whole wine thing and the inflated prices were overblown, but this video and that man’s unwavering confidence in the quality of the product has made me change my mind a little bit
get a baseline understanding of wine or spirits, nothing expensive, but take your time to taste it over a few hours. that way, when you have the chance to experience something special you'll know what your tasting. I had the chance to have a glass of 70 year aged brandy. If i didn't know whiskey, it would have been lost on me, and it was an exceptional experience.
@@Kenzo_____ I've studied wine tasting for a few years as a subject in school and even if I'm neither good or interested in wine tasting I don't understand the perspective of many comments here... Do people choose their wine basing on the price, like: more expensive = better...? Don't you simply choose a wine by its fame and known characteristics and then decide whether to buy it or not, given the price is not too high? And about the speculation part, it shouldn't work with wine, I know the Italian system which requires a wine to have certain characteristics and land, production phases, storage, cultural references... prerequisites in order to gain the right to write the thing on the label that certifies it. There are authorities in place that get rid of frauds and it's about the same in every country nowadays, so if someone buys a very expensive bad wine just because it's expensive then it's their fault for having the critical capabilities of a drunk cat.
@@overl0ad816 "Worth" is subjective. If you just want to get drunk and have the thing you're getting drunk on taste good, of course it's not worth it. But if you want to taste some really good wine, you won't get it any cheaper. So what is it "worth", if you can't get it otherwise? And then if you're a billionaire, maybe it is worth it just to get drunk on.
actually when you're an oenologist, when you have to try a wine in a more professional environment, you have to taste it without swallow it, it's really unprofessional for an oenologist to be an alcoholic, and I hope he's not one.
@@hukijiki1828 well id disagree, maybe when they are doing their job because drunkenness could fuck with your perception of taste for differnt wines you try. But you don’t think they like to drink it sometimes too
@@hukijiki1828 yes I absolutely agree the moment an oenologist swallows wine he is the moment that his career takes a break for 1 or 2 weeks or something like that because it messes with your receptors. ps: I might be full of shit on the break but I know for sure that oenologists don't swallow wine
@@hukijiki1828 if he's not working and has the opportunity to drink First Growth Bordeaux at home, you'd have to be insane to spit it out. Enjoying the effects of alcohol doesn't necessarily mean you're an alcoholic either.
It really seems that simple things like this tend to separate out the true experts. A true expert is far more likely to say: “It depends.” And to be able to appreciate not only the highest end of their craft, but also things like The moments of extreme high value at the lower end of the craft and such. The true experts seem to feel much less need to prove their knowledge and their snobbishness to someone asking genuine questions, showing interest, and trying to learn.
From watching many WineKing videos, Peter seems to appreciate what he calls "real wine", even if it's not super expensive. The thing he seems to hate most is bad wine driven by marketing, with added sugar, added fake oak etc. You really can find a lot of good, inexpensive wine from honest producers. It probably won't cost 2 Euros, but you can find really decent stuff with lots of character around 10.
I have never purchased wine over 20€ except for my husband for I bought a bottle that was produced on his birthday. But I can always tell expensive vs cheap jamon and cheese.
Never would I have expected as a 20 year old with no experience in wine to get so much joy out of a video about comparing two wines at completely different price points
I mean, in the end, let's face it, people will still be fooled / can't tell the difference between $12 and $915 wine. But for this man, you can tell, the joy and happiness he had drinking this $915 wine... priceless. Still, to be that old, and still have that much passion and energy. Wine really does something to the soul.
I can't agree, here in France (and living next to Cahors, another fine wine making place) wine is tradition because it's part of our teroir. It's part of our culture in the campaign to appreciate a good wine, some good meat, good bread etc.. My father can tell you from which castle the wine is from by tasting it 95% of the time. I can't do that, but i can definitely tell a cheap / average wine from a good wine. Not sure if I could tell a very good wine from a great wine tho. Also note, that price doesn't do everything in the lower brackets : We have really good wines for 8 to 15€ but also some very average wines for 30 - 40€ which aren't worth the money, so it may be tricky sometimes. As the old man said in the video, sometimes the producer fails to deliver the product he wanted to make.
@@phosphene2542 Oh yeah ok, i understand his point ^^ But I'm not sure what would be the point to buy expensive wine if you're not an amateur. One of the first time i drank wine ever, I ordered the most expensive bottle at a small restaurant with a friend. I can tell you it could've been discount wine I wouldn't have seen a difference, total waste of 60 or so €.
@VPN Rocks Most of our wines (Bordeaux and cahors around where I live) are pretty good in quality for their price ^^ But that's what everyone is used to here, as most people drink those local wines. Ofc we won't call this bad wines, but it's considered "general good wine" (People mostly agree that Bordeaux is a bit higher in quality tho) nothing crazy for most french people. I guess we are very lucky, I'm happy to see strangers appreciate those :)
if you are a wine drinker you can in generally feel a difference on a kind of steps value, meaning you cant really feel a difference between 10 euros and 20 euros, but I can feel a difference between 10 euros Bordeaux and a 100 euros Bordeaux, between 12 and 900 ? even myself as a low wine drinker i can feel the difference. but yea the guy is amazing
It's always a great experience to listen to an expert, especially in areas associated with luxury. No ego showing, just a passion for the craft that becomes contagious. Even better when the expert gets drunk :)
I love rewatching this video every few months. The og's insights are so amazing and his demeanor is very much like a wise man. Your guy's chemistry is so great
I had a grin on my face throughout the video, it was so wholesome and good-hearted, the dynamic these two have is incredible, I wish there were more videos like this.
try different ones. That is like saying "i don't like fruit". The varieties are huge. I dislike somr, I like some. I adore others. Give it more of a chance
Im a person who doesn't like alcohol, but it's still nice to see an expert enjoying what seems to be one of the best wines today and putting his skills and taste pallette to the test
It's like asking a master mechanic, Which one is the formula 1 engine, and which one is the Chevy Nova engine? No - but this paper says.... "bullshit". I just wish more people had this kind of sense when reading FaceBook.
@@Rigel2221984 no its not, this is a simple test, watch videos where they taste many wines and look at the bottle label, masters fail all the time, also you cant re-cork wine, the wine is ruined after a few hrs
@@gregoryeverson741 "ruined" sure it will lose quality but people often drink wine and store it for the next day, it doesn't literally ruin it, but I get what you're saying
A true master isn't swayed by public opinion. He got the answers, but is so confident in his acquired skill and knowledge over the years, that he still doubled down on his own answer, seeing through the bluff, and never second guessing himself! This is pure motivation to want to become really great at something.
He was pretty accurate on the price difference according to his own system: he was off by less than a half, thus by his claims being off half a point of difference, even though the absolutes seem vastly different. This man definitely knows what he is talking about.
If you listen to how he talks about the $12 bottle he just thought it was a more expensive bottle. 13:40 shows how much he values the quality of that $12 bottle and how much it stands above it's price tag.
@@abonynge Sorry, but he is more about Bordeaux being a great region in general. This bottle was great, but he always took it with a grain of price-tag, where he was referencing the actual price and talking about the price-to-value comparison rather than actual quality. It is a great value wine on the lower regions of high quality wines but on the high end of general supermarket wines. And that is exactly what he talks about.
I don't even drink alcool yet this is one of the most entertaining. video I've seen in a while. Peter is truly a master, both in knowledge and personality. Cheers from Bordeaux!
@@gregoryeverson741 The guy you're responding to is just from the area called Bordeaux. Not sure who you're trying to talk through your anus over here.
I always find fascinating when an expert talks about their subject. You can tell the hours of studying and working behind, but most importantly, the passion. Listening to experts like this man is always enjoyable.
I was born in Bordeaux, I live in Pessac, France. The château Haut Brion is actually in Pessac, literally 2km away from my house. I mean I know Bordeaux is well known for its quality wine but I didn't know I was passing by such a château on a daily basis. I've never really been much into red wine, but your master sure did inspire me! He is so passionate about wine. Anyway, thanks for making me realize I have the luck of living nearby such a castle that makes such good wine :)
Can't stop watching this video. Watching these 2 on camera shows their pure love of wine. Because of this video, I went out and purchased both bottles and will take the "pepsi challenge" with my wife!
Maybe next time you could do this but with the same wine from one bottle, poured into two separate bottles and tell him to judge which is more expensive. But they're exactly the same
yeah thats not going to work,, dude do you seriously think wine tastes that similar that you can just do that. like come on even people who dont drink wine will tell you its the same.
This is a man who chases his desires and wants and seeks a refreshing change to the norm. None of my colleagues or friends have this, we try to on the weekends. I wish so heavily to have a passion like this, my heart yearns for such a possibility.
I love how he kept pointing out the quality of the cheap wine. Shows that he is very down to earth and understands what the average viewer will most likely enjoy. Absolute unit of a wine expert
yes because in this kind of job normally to not compromise your pallate you have to spit the wine, I think that's why he said he was drinking not tasting.
That man knows his wine. I may not be on this level of wine tasting, but I have been known to be able to taste the difference in a fresh glass and 2 months or older glass of milk pretty easily.
I really like the character of your mentor. What a man! Also, I really liked how happy and appreciative he was of the budget wine and wanted to cellar it, even with the mega expensive bottle right besides it. That's such a good quality. I'm very partial to finding good out of little wherever possible. Especially when it's for leisure and experience. An exciting and flavorful life needn't bankrupt a regular Joe. There's so much wonderful stuff to enjoy at any level if you dig deep.
I went out and bought the 2019 Chateau la Rose de Vitrac based on this challenge (I know Peter is drinking the 2018). The first evening I found it underwhelming just ok. This evening, after letting it sit in the fridge overnight, I'm liking it more and more. The fruit is very enjoyable. Let's see if a bad headache follows.
Wow I always thought wine experts were full of it. I guess not. I’ll never forget a thing that happened when I was a kid. My friends mom was always getting expensive wine. She claimed to be an expert. My friend’s dad got a cheap bottle and poured it into an old empty expensive bottle. She got it wrong, and he started laughing and told her what he did. She lost her mind. She was so mad at him. It went from us all laughing to him saying he was just kidding, and folding. It was crazy.
"I don't wanna taste, I'm drinking NOW!!" LOL great job Peter. Not surprised he wasn't fooled. I love how confident Peter was, I see so many wine people that wouldn't be so sure.
The way the wine is expressed by the master is precisely how I think of cannabis at 3:06 I've never expressed it in this way, but what he says resonates with me greatly.
First video I've seen of this channel, I love the enthusiasm, charisma, and casual way he expressed such experience in such an easygoing flow. If he narrates any audiobooks, I'd love to hear it. Great idea with grand chemistry. Subscribed.
In the video when he kept saying not possible an ad played that said something about getting better car insurance is possible and honestly that the most perfect ad placement I have ever seen
While vintage is important, its worth mentioning that older wines typically need to sit out longer than younger ones after being poured. From my experience, older wines will tend to have a funky barn yard taste to them when tasting it right after it’s been poured. Letting it sit (or breathe) for 15-20 mins (sometimes 30 mins -1 hour) will allow it to transform revealing the true taste/personality of the wine. Im no wine expert by any stretch of the imagination. This was a tip given to me by a sommelier and my mind was completely blown when he showed me the difference between the initial taste and the taste 30 mins after pouring a 1990 Cabernet Sauvignon; it honestly felt like I was drinking two completely different wines.
You guys are so enjoyable to watch! I worked for Total Wine and both the red and the white of Chateau Larose De Vitrac are great values, the white is a Sauvignon blanc.
bravo to the wine expert... especially for being patient when he was supposed to be tricked... i thought i read somewhere that wine quality above $20 was all the same?
I think the $20 rule is good advice for most people since the expert mentioned there are diminishing returns as you go up in price. He said something like a 1/2 point increase in quality can be double the price. So if your $20 wine is a 7/10 then your $40 wine might only be a 7.5/10. In which case you may have been better of settling for the cheaper one.
Thats not true. There definetly a point of diminishing returns when you go above 30-40$ but up until 70-80$ there's still something to be had. Above 100$ is just about names, AOC and exclusivity and prestige.
A $10-$15 Chilean Carmenere or Argentinian Malbec are already very great in my opinion. I don't feel like I need anything else. A decent Spanish Tempranillo or Italian Chianti Classico or Primitivo (Zinfandel in US), a very good Napa Valley Carbernet Sauvignon, are probably all you need to pair with your weekend special meals like your BBQ, steak, or special pasta dish. Then, moving upwards is $40 like my favourite Brunello di Montalcino. It is simply heaven, and was my rare experience in having "delicate" tasting-wine. Is it worth the price? Maybe yes, especially if you only open it during special occassion, like your birthday, your anniversary, celebrating your loved one's special days, promotion day, your favourite sports team winning something, or similar rare occassion. You want to splurge a bit more, pair it with prosciutto or fancy cheese to spoil your palate. I'd say keep several bottles in your cellar to be opened during your special moments. In this price range, there are trendy wines that made critics go "ga-ga" about, like the infamous Beaujolais, which I tried once or twice. It is indeed good, but I just don't get what's the deal. Generally, just stick to what you think is great, and watch out for general reviews. Then we get to $80 such as the venerable Barolo. It is "unique" in a way that the wine is rather light and have a very distinct cherry note (the gaudy fruity aroma), and not as abbrassive (or "tannic") as normally wine should be. The consistency and the texture is indeed amazing, definitely doesn't taste like somebody forgot to stir the powder or syrup and giving the drinker weird and different taste in every sip. Was it worth it though? I can't say it is my type of wine, so no. There are plenty of super expensive wine with this characteristics, which I call "glorified flavoured water", and I have to say that I am not into it. Anything "Pinot Noir", which is arguably one of the fanciest grape, simply does not fit my palate. But it is often highly prized or praised, alluding to the Wine Master's explanation about what makes a wine special: Pinot Noir is just too damn difficult to grow and the yield isn't that much. The world's most expensive wine, Domaine Romanee-Conti (DRC) is made of Pinot Noir, and can command price above $5,000. The tasting note includes rare hint of umami-ness (savoury) to the tune of mushroom-like, which very unusual for the water-like consistency of typical cheap pinot noir. However, the right $20 Merlot wine will give you all the delicate savoury note, and sometimes a bonus like the herbal tobacco, clove, or nutmeg-like sweetness aroma. Cheap Australian or New Zealand wines will often add that signature tea tree or Eucalyptus smell if you are into that sort of thing. I would say you have to treat any wine in this price range as "experience" or "education". Finally, how about the $120 wines like the Tignanello (apparently Meghan Markle's favourite) itself? Along with my other $150-$200 wine experiences, including the rare chance to taste $1,000 wines, I must say they are indeed not for everybody's financial condition, let alone palate. I mean, yeah they are indeed very "good" in their own way, but if I like orange juice, I might not be able to appreciate a very good apple juice. Red wines, especially Carbernet Sauvignon has the distinct tannic and oak wood smell when you swallow it. The better the wine, the more mellow and easier to swallow. It makes you feel like you are in an old library full of leather-covered books. The older or the more expensive the wine, the stronger the smell, giving the sense that the library is filled with more books. However, the right $20 Malbec or Syrah wine will give you more or less the same super heavy leathery-smell too. So, in the end, it really depends on what you are looking for. Now, this oaky wine is my kind of taste, but I'd rather save up for GeForce RTX3080 instead of blowing it for something that will turn into piss water in less than a day. Clearly, it requires some significant financial commitment, and normal people would not be comfortable in splurging this much amount of money, unless you are a hobbyist or wine enthusiast. Like car enthusiasts, they tend to "build" instead of buying directly from the dealerships. Newly rich loves to buy supercars to announce their newly acquired status to the world, because they really feel the need to, and this is the kind of car that ranges from eye-watering $100,000 like the Lambo Huracan or Porsche 911 Turbo, all the way to $1 million super car territories like the McLaren P1, LaFerrari, or Porsche 918 Spyder. Real rich people stays within their sustainable means, and aim for safety and comfort in $60,000 Mercedes S-Class or BMW 7-series. Car enthusiasts are often more selective, they either buy classics like 1967 Ford Mustang or heavily tuned project car, even if they buy super cars, they tend to have specific car characteristics that they aim for. I think wine hobby is kind of the same. There are a lot of casual people hearing amazing stuff about expensive wine just like what normies hear about super cars, so they tend to get into those once they have the money, without knowing the pitfalls. Unless people have some self-esteem problem or other serious mental health issues, I normally don't advise them to spend too much on prestige.
@@7evive It also depends on the ability to taste the difference in the first place and the level of enjoyment that brings you. This distills (hehe) into an optimum for you where your tastebuds are pleased to the max and your wallet stays as full as possible to do other fun stuff.
I love his respect for the product and break down of what quality is in a wine - "price" is one thing but it doesn't make a good wine. A renown brand may command a heft price tag because of the rarity of their product but a "lesser" producer can still make an objectively better wine.
You gotta love this guy ! What a funny life loving person he is. Remember, many people in his Milieu are arrongant Snobs who have some serious issues with their ego.
Taking what the old man said, that to increase quality by half a point means doubling the price of the wine, he was pretty close to guessing the quality of the expensive wine (since doubling the price would mean it’s 100x’s more expensive). What I’m guessing is he thought the cheaper wine cost a bit more than it did. So maybe he thought it was a $17-20 bottle.
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sure , already follow you ...
XD you just spent R15 000 to test how good your wine mentor is. Well played sir well played. But if your a south african you can tell he is serious buisness.
Great video :)
The wine master is definitely South African.
Not going to lie, the master is quite amazing and entertaining with his details and deductions. A very experienced man full of humorous that if you just let him sit for awhile, he'll catch you laughing when you breathe. That's a quality master you can't get anywhere else in the world. The episode has a lot of flavor to it.
...Wait, am I describing the wine or the master?
he tried to trick him and in exchange man drank like 600 dollars of wine
Right, like the man peeing on the bar joke, or brear rabbit
Once he figured out what he was drinking he was like 'filler up!"
@@DragonOfMTL or win(e)maker?
"I'm not sure bro I need another glass"
@@DragonOfMTL The true winer!
Peter after finishing $500 worth of wine: don’t fxxk with me, pour another.
Yep lol
South Africans, man.
😂😂😂
Gotta stay polite and say "pour, favore"
🤣
Dudes no joke, he was so close to spot on, On everything
Getting sus everything staged
@@thormaxmaximus1905 if it is the guy is a wonderful actor, in both cases it's impressive :p
@@osquigene ye 😄
@@thormaxmaximus1905 you know what i believe him he just looks like someone who knows wine
@@maggoteater2290 that's cool 😎
This guy really knows his stuff, he knew he was right and didn’t ever accept the fake results for a second. That really shows the level of confidence he has in his expertise. Really impressive.
It’s not. Anyone with basic level of systematic wine tasting can tell the difference. We are talking about getting confused between a Ferrari and a Kia when you get into the car.
He was wrong tho
&Eric Cowan
What do you mean ?
@@ericcowan8008 He wasn't wrong. Did you bother to watch the entire video? The "results" were faked on purpose to see if he had the skill to know the difference even when presented with false information.
@@ericcowan8008 u r a remarkably slow individual
This guy's really making me wanna start getting into wine, and I don't think that's a hobby I can exactly afford right now.
You can get into the hobby without spending a lot. I know plenty of very passionate, knowledgable people in the wine hobby who’s pleasure comes from finding gems in the lower price points. You don’t need to spend a lot to get a lot in this hobby, providing you’re ok with not knowing what is possible in wine (first growths such as in the video)
I mean he passionately raved about about the $12 wine too. If he was adamant about being correct about the expensive wine, I would trust he's not lying about being able to find great, cheap wine.
It depends a bit on your market but there are really good, inexpensive wines. Although inexpensive is also relative, I would say there simply is no great wine for 2 Euros, but there are very good ones for about 10-15. At least here in Europe there is a massive quality increase when you from 5, to 10, to 15 Euro (as long as you look for good deals)
Yeah my parents would not consider $12 wine cheap 😂😂 But I would consider a 88-90 point wine for that price a bargain 🎉
Here's the trick, get into it, befriend other enthusiasts, get invited to their cellar, profit!
Notice how he went from humbly saying "ahhh the possibility is there I'm absolutely wrong" to "I"M NOT WRONG"...That's a good wine right there, two more sips, and grandpa will be picking fights with the furniture
Good wine critics should understand how wine changes as it ages.
He’s just confident as fuck
This made me laugh out loud. My dog looked at me wondering if I had lost my mind. Well done.
he challanged his identity, ofc he gets irritated. that wasnt cool
Haha.. your comment man! Lol
hahaha and then went from "don't fuck with me" to "this is one of the most amazing tastings ive ever had" 13:17
the more drunk he got the more sure he was
Alternatively: The more sure he was, the more drunk he got.
Me too. The more drunk I got the more I'm confident even I'm wrong (particularly if I'm wrong to tell the truth).
I'm surprised no one thought it was a pricing error from the merchant side
@@randomyoutubebrowser5217 that would somehow make my day xD
Just like my mum
"I don't want to taste, I'm drinking now."
He went from wine expert to "I'm your uncle. Bring me a beer."
wrong, bring me a bottle of wine not beer
@@darthsaren6519 then it’s “I’m your Aunt. Bring me wine.”
Not gonna lie, from my biased pov, I always thought that the whole wine thing and the inflated prices were overblown, but this video and that man’s unwavering confidence in the quality of the product has made me change my mind a little bit
get a baseline understanding of wine or spirits, nothing expensive, but take your time to taste it over a few hours. that way, when you have the chance to experience something special you'll know what your tasting.
I had the chance to have a glass of 70 year aged brandy. If i didn't know whiskey, it would have been lost on me, and it was an exceptional experience.
@@jaqssmith1666so basically most alcohol tastes like shit, but if it’s old, it’s slightly better shit worth 70 times the price? 😂😂 im good thanks
@@overl0ad816Spoken like a true League of Legends player. An idiot.
@@Kenzo_____ I've studied wine tasting for a few years as a subject in school and even if I'm neither good or interested in wine tasting I don't understand the perspective of many comments here... Do people choose their wine basing on the price, like: more expensive = better...?
Don't you simply choose a wine by its fame and known characteristics and then decide whether to buy it or not, given the price is not too high?
And about the speculation part, it shouldn't work with wine, I know the Italian system which requires a wine to have certain characteristics and land, production phases, storage, cultural references... prerequisites in order to gain the right to write the thing on the label that certifies it. There are authorities in place that get rid of frauds and it's about the same in every country nowadays, so if someone buys a very expensive bad wine just because it's expensive then it's their fault for having the critical capabilities of a drunk cat.
@@overl0ad816 "Worth" is subjective. If you just want to get drunk and have the thing you're getting drunk on taste good, of course it's not worth it. But if you want to taste some really good wine, you won't get it any cheaper. So what is it "worth", if you can't get it otherwise? And then if you're a billionaire, maybe it is worth it just to get drunk on.
These guys have really great chemistry, I smiled through the whole video.
True that
Of course the wine master is an alcoholic, that’s his job.
- Roy Keane
actually when you're an oenologist, when you have to try a wine in a more professional environment, you have to taste it without swallow it, it's really unprofessional for an oenologist to be an alcoholic, and I hope he's not one.
@@hukijiki1828 well id disagree, maybe when they are doing their job because drunkenness could fuck with your perception of taste for differnt wines you try. But you don’t think they like to drink it sometimes too
@@hukijiki1828 yes I absolutely agree the moment an oenologist swallows wine he is the moment that his career takes a break for 1 or 2 weeks or something like that because it messes with your receptors. ps: I might be full of shit on the break but I know for sure that oenologists don't swallow wine
@@hukijiki1828 if he's not working and has the opportunity to drink First Growth Bordeaux at home, you'd have to be insane to spit it out. Enjoying the effects of alcohol doesn't necessarily mean you're an alcoholic either.
"I don't want to taste, I'm drinking now!", had me rolling.
That's my new mantra!
Don’t drink wine, not interested in wine in the least, but man this guys amazing
You are into red crystal shrimp, can't be into everything red ...
If I was going to buy wine I would never drink it but just collect rare bottles
I'm 15 and I like wine
@@glumGlumm ok I guess I won’t do that then
@@necrodemon2199 how f’d up is your brain from it?
I don't even drink alcohol but man, that was super entertaining and super impressive. Peter is an incredible character.
with that confidence, he definitely deserved finishing that wine bottle lol
"Peter, stop drinking!"
narrator: Peter, however, did not stop drinking.
Morgan Freeman's voice
Who else read it like it's at the end of a movie?
😂😂😂😂😂
This could be a scene in family guy
“wait… dad?!”
I like how he still says wine A is a "very lovely wine." You can still appreciate inexpensive things, even if you're an expert.
It really seems that simple things like this tend to separate out the true experts. A true expert is far more likely to say: “It depends.” And to be able to appreciate not only the highest end of their craft, but also things like The moments of extreme high value at the lower end of the craft and such. The true experts seem to feel much less need to prove their knowledge and their snobbishness to someone asking genuine questions, showing interest, and trying to learn.
From watching many WineKing videos, Peter seems to appreciate what he calls "real wine", even if it's not super expensive. The thing he seems to hate most is bad wine driven by marketing, with added sugar, added fake oak etc. You really can find a lot of good, inexpensive wine from honest producers. It probably won't cost 2 Euros, but you can find really decent stuff with lots of character around 10.
I have never purchased wine over 20€ except for my husband for I bought a bottle that was produced on his birthday. But I can always tell expensive vs cheap jamon and cheese.
keeps drinking it as well 🤣, man of his words
Twitch thots will tell you this is broke man thinking though. 🤔
" You can edit, but you don't need to "
The level of confidence and experience in that man. Great episode!
With another full bottle lol! Genius
ive never had a glass of wine in my life but im still enthralled with the way this man speaks
Never would I have expected as a 20 year old with no experience in wine to get so much joy out of a video about comparing two wines at completely different price points
drunk wine expert VS wife : immovable object meets an unstoppable force…
LMFAO
Haaahaha
LMFAO
this needs more research from scientists, i home they make more videos like this xD
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I mean, in the end, let's face it, people will still be fooled / can't tell the difference between $12 and $915 wine.
But for this man, you can tell, the joy and happiness he had drinking this $915 wine... priceless.
Still, to be that old, and still have that much passion and energy. Wine really does something to the soul.
I can't agree, here in France (and living next to Cahors, another fine wine making place) wine is tradition because it's part of our teroir. It's part of our culture in the campaign to appreciate a good wine, some good meat, good bread etc.. My father can tell you from which castle the wine is from by tasting it 95% of the time. I can't do that, but i can definitely tell a cheap / average wine from a good wine. Not sure if I could tell a very good wine from a great wine tho.
Also note, that price doesn't do everything in the lower brackets : We have really good wines for 8 to 15€ but also some very average wines for 30 - 40€ which aren't worth the money, so it may be tricky sometimes. As the old man said in the video, sometimes the producer fails to deliver the product he wanted to make.
@@phosphene2542 Oh yeah ok, i understand his point ^^ But I'm not sure what would be the point to buy expensive wine if you're not an amateur.
One of the first time i drank wine ever, I ordered the most expensive bottle at a small restaurant with a friend. I can tell you it could've been discount wine I wouldn't have seen a difference, total waste of 60 or so €.
@VPN Rocks Most of our wines (Bordeaux and cahors around where I live) are pretty good in quality for their price ^^ But that's what everyone is used to here, as most people drink those local wines. Ofc we won't call this bad wines, but it's considered "general good wine" (People mostly agree that Bordeaux is a bit higher in quality tho) nothing crazy for most french people. I guess we are very lucky, I'm happy to see strangers appreciate those :)
If i live to that age i will be an alcoholic no doubt
if you are a wine drinker you can in generally feel a difference on a kind of steps value, meaning you cant really feel a difference between 10 euros and 20 euros, but I can feel a difference between 10 euros Bordeaux and a 100 euros Bordeaux, between 12 and 900 ? even myself as a low wine drinker i can feel the difference. but yea the guy is amazing
“Bordeaux, the finest wine growing region in the world. But not my favorite.” 💯
What’s his favorite. I wanna go buy that $12 one for my girlfriend
@@christopherg1288 women I notice love pinot
@@christopherg1288 Peter’s favorite wine is chablis. ua-cam.com/video/_uxQNDEmVRk/v-deo.html
@@드라군길들이기 thanks dude :)
Bourgogne > côte de Rhône > Bordeaux
Best Wine :
Musigny
Là Romanée
Richebourg
Vosne Romanée
Pommard
Meursault
Gevrey Chambertin
Etc etc
It's always a great experience to listen to an expert, especially in areas associated with luxury. No ego showing, just a passion for the craft that becomes contagious. Even better when the expert gets drunk :)
I love rewatching this video every few months. The og's insights are so amazing and his demeanor is very much like a wise man. Your guy's chemistry is so great
heh, good to see others doing the same… these are some of wine youtubes absolute classics and I love rewatching them😅
i need that kind of confidence in my life.
akira's correct tho
Drinking a bottle of wine helps with the confidence... Definitely doesn't give you the accuracy though.
When George Carlin drinks wine and laughs merrily, the world is still okay.
haha so spot on ! This adds to the awesomeness of this video !
I had a grin on my face throughout the video, it was so wholesome and good-hearted, the dynamic these two have is incredible, I wish there were more videos like this.
I thought it was Jeremy Irons
This old man is enjoyable to watch lol so honest, talks like a sailor lol
hahahahahahahaah on point
Are sailors South African?
this is a perfect example of work isn't work if you love what you do. you two are great.
i dont even like wine but watching you two's chemistry together is worth the watch haha. nothing but good times
try different ones. That is like saying "i don't like fruit". The varieties are huge. I dislike somr, I like some. I adore others. Give it more of a chance
@@artful1967 your right to be honest I love champane's though I think it taste really light and also sharp you know
Im a person who doesn't like alcohol, but it's still nice to see an expert enjoying what seems to be one of the best wines today and putting his skills and taste pallette to the test
I love how quickly he got the answer, and how confident he was in himself. This guy knows his wine
Lol he wasn't even fooled a little bit 😆
It's like asking a master mechanic, Which one is the formula 1 engine, and which one is the Chevy Nova engine? No - but this paper says.... "bullshit". I just wish more people had this kind of sense when reading FaceBook.
@@Rigel2221984 Surely that's not the same comparison. A better comparison would be trying to find out which engine oil is older by its viscosity.
@@Rigel2221984 no its not, this is a simple test, watch videos where they taste many wines and look at the bottle label, masters fail all the time, also you cant re-cork wine, the wine is ruined after a few hrs
@@gregoryeverson741 thanks for letting me know
@@gregoryeverson741 "ruined" sure it will lose quality but people often drink wine and store it for the next day, it doesn't literally ruin it, but I get what you're saying
I love how much fun they are having!!
It looks like they really enjoy each other’s presence.
You guys have the sweetest relationship. Also both very humble and positive which makes it a real pleasure to watch your videos 😊
His opinion became stronger after each sip. The tongue never lies.
I've never hear that saying, epic 🤙
A true master isn't swayed by public opinion. He got the answers, but is so confident in his acquired skill and knowledge over the years, that he still doubled down on his own answer, seeing through the bluff, and never second guessing himself! This is pure motivation to want to become really great at something.
"I don't want to taste, I'm drinking now." Haha legend.
I'm completely taste-blind, so amazing what this expert is able to sense! His descriptions are awesome.
“Understanding quality is not just understanding quality”- jun 8 2021, a legend
He was pretty accurate on the price difference according to his own system: he was off by less than a half, thus by his claims being off half a point of difference, even though the absolutes seem vastly different. This man definitely knows what he is talking about.
If you listen to how he talks about the $12 bottle he just thought it was a more expensive bottle. 13:40 shows how much he values the quality of that $12 bottle and how much it stands above it's price tag.
@@abonynge Sorry, but he is more about Bordeaux being a great region in general. This bottle was great, but he always took it with a grain of price-tag, where he was referencing the actual price and talking about the price-to-value comparison rather than actual quality. It is a great value wine on the lower regions of high quality wines but on the high end of general supermarket wines. And that is exactly what he talks about.
He deserves that whole bottle after what you pulled!
I don't even drink alcool yet this is one of the most entertaining. video I've seen in a while. Peter is truly a master, both in knowledge and personality. Cheers from Bordeaux!
you expect me to believe you spent 1K on a bottle of wine?you cant even afford a nice place to live
yeah man, it's just entertain to watch
I hate wine and enjoyed the whole thing lol
@@gregoryeverson741 what are are you even talking about? Why are you so salty? I don’t even know you lmfao
@@gregoryeverson741 The guy you're responding to is just from the area called Bordeaux. Not sure who you're trying to talk through your anus over here.
I don't think I've ever laughed this much watching ANY video, let alone a wine tasting video! You guys rock!
That makes one of us.
This was my first Wineking video, and it got me hooked with the energy!
I don't even drink wine and I've never even seen this channel before but Peter's enthusiasm is so infectious that just kept on watching.
fully entertained and enjoyed your mentor's attitude and confidence. He's prolly thinking I know my shit even if I'm gonna be drunk.
I always find fascinating when an expert talks about their subject. You can tell the hours of studying and working behind, but most importantly, the passion. Listening to experts like this man is always enjoyable.
I was just thinking the same thing, its so interesting and fun to hear professionals talk about their passions
Passion is everything
@@pstino it is the best thing out there really
I was born in Bordeaux, I live in Pessac, France. The château Haut Brion is actually in Pessac, literally 2km away from my house. I mean I know Bordeaux is well known for its quality wine but I didn't know I was passing by such a château on a daily basis. I've never really been much into red wine, but your master sure did inspire me! He is so passionate about wine. Anyway, thanks for making me realize I have the luck of living nearby such a castle that makes such good wine :)
Living next to that chateau is one thing, but i prefer a glass of Chateau Haut Brion.
This is my favourite video on youtube, i keep rewatching it. Got my WSET 2 because of this channel
I am not surprised that Peter could not be fooled. Well done!
yaay Konstantin!
Spoiler alert :D
@@stefanrudigerrill4120 pssss 😉!
XD
I am surprised a “Master of Wine” is cheering a Master of wine for not being fooled to compare a $10 wine and $1000 wine.
I love watching dudes that know their craft. It gives you faith in reality.
"You can't buy that quality for $12 in any other place in the world".
Me living in Bordeaux 😂😂😂
Anywhere in France really
12$ for a "budget wine" ??? Don't they know the villageoise ? xD
I think he mean ''from other région'', would make more sense.
@@Happy95200 12 $ is budget "drinking wine", la villageoise is not even a "drunking wine" ;)
@@lord123a Les bourguignons apprécieront ;)
Can't stop watching this video. Watching these 2 on camera shows their pure love of wine. Because of this video, I went out and purchased both bottles and will take the "pepsi challenge" with my wife!
Glad the algorithm brought me here. What a great video! Both personalities are so infectious and wonderful. Thank you from a new subscriber!
I want to hang out with the wine master, he seems like the kind of dude that is always bringing that positive energy.
Maybe next time you could do this but with the same wine from one bottle, poured into two separate bottles and tell him to judge which is more expensive. But they're exactly the same
yeah thats not going to work,, dude do you seriously think wine tastes that similar that you can just do that. like come on even people who dont drink wine will tell you its the same.
You can fool someone else, but you can't fool the old sensei 😂 that man has 30 years experience
He actually knows his shit, never gonna work
naa, he will detect the difference still.
His theory of production just made me rethink all the endeavors I made in life that I considered failures.
This is a man who chases his desires and wants and seeks a refreshing change to the norm. None of my colleagues or friends have this, we try to on the weekends. I wish so heavily to have a passion like this, my heart yearns for such a possibility.
Your wine master is a fellow South African I can tell by his accent. Love his confidence, he certainly knows his stuff!
I love how he kept pointing out the quality of the cheap wine. Shows that he is very down to earth and understands what the average viewer will most likely enjoy. Absolute unit of a wine expert
hello
12$ is not a cheap wine by any means though. Cheap wine is 2/3$
Where the fuck can you get a bottle of wine for 2 dollars?!? Even bottom quality boxed wine is more than that@@FacitOmniaVoluntas.
12$ for such a good wine is absolutely cheap@@FacitOmniaVoluntas.
@@anonymoose2474 Plenty of wines for one or two Euro here in Germany. Granted it’s shitty wine and alcohol is notoriously cheap here but still
"I'm not tasting anymore, I'm drinking now" LMAOO
yes because in this kind of job normally to not compromise your pallate you have to spit the wine, I think that's why he said he was drinking not tasting.
He's like "if i say im not wrong then im not"
That man knows his wine. I may not be on this level of wine tasting, but I have been known to be able to taste the difference in a fresh glass and 2 months or older glass of milk pretty easily.
Teach me your ways..
I really like the character of your mentor. What a man! Also, I really liked how happy and appreciative he was of the budget wine and wanted to cellar it, even with the mega expensive bottle right besides it. That's such a good quality. I'm very partial to finding good out of little wherever possible. Especially when it's for leisure and experience. An exciting and flavorful life needn't bankrupt a regular Joe. There's so much wonderful stuff to enjoy at any level if you dig deep.
"Oh I see.. Then take my 20$ and bring me couple bottles more of that B-wine"
That was gold 😂
Bro where was that?
Ha ha!!! :-)
@@jeronymous5601 in the video
@@mirzaiscandle he wanted a timestamp
Bro u dumb
If I were peter, I'd say, okay, then you'll keep wine A and I'll pay you $12 to bring wine B home 😂
Ge already drank it all loll
That's just pure entertainment of two amazing characters! So professional and fun to watch! Inspiring!!
Wow, I have never seen someone having so much passion drinking wine! What a legend!
I went out and bought the 2019 Chateau la Rose de Vitrac based on this challenge (I know Peter is drinking the 2018). The first evening I found it underwhelming just ok. This evening, after letting it sit in the fridge overnight, I'm liking it more and more. The fruit is very enjoyable. Let's see if a bad headache follows.
He is so South African it almost hurts😂 This guy knows his shit you can see he really knows what he is talking about and he is passionate about it
I was waiting for a “your poes man!” Or something like that just to confirm it
@@rameezbhayed7261 or like an ag nee fok man😂
Glad someone else saw it. When i heard his accent i was like, wait a minute.. Hol up. Its unexpected but welcomed
@@rameezbhayed7261 ma se poes
Found my sa home bois in this comment section 😍
This video is honestly one of the best I've ever watched, so awesome listening to a drunk man talk about something he is so passionate about
When he said that they were from Bordeaux, my mind was blown
This was both informative and hilarious! Thanks for posting
Wow I always thought wine experts were full of it. I guess not.
I’ll never forget a thing that happened when I was a kid. My friends mom was always getting expensive wine. She claimed to be an expert. My friend’s dad got a cheap bottle and poured it into an old empty expensive bottle.
She got it wrong, and he started laughing and told her what he did. She lost her mind. She was so mad at him. It went from us all laughing to him saying he was just kidding, and folding. It was crazy.
He’s like “stop drinking” hahahaha
IT'S EXPENSIVEEE
"I don't wanna taste, I'm drinking NOW!!" LOL great job Peter. Not surprised he wasn't fooled. I love how confident Peter was, I see so many wine people that wouldn't be so sure.
Very interesting! I’m not a wine person, but he makes me want to rush out and get a nice bottle of red
The way the wine is expressed by the master is precisely how I think of cannabis at 3:06
I've never expressed it in this way, but what he says resonates with me greatly.
I just got your video in UA-cam recommendations and i want to say you have a really good prononciation of french for a none french guy
First video I've seen of this channel, I love the enthusiasm, charisma, and casual way he expressed such experience in such an easygoing flow. If he narrates any audiobooks, I'd love to hear it. Great idea with grand chemistry. Subscribed.
You guys make drinking fun. Makes me wanting to go through the total experience from selecting to drinking a bottle of wine. Thank you.
What you see in TV ads when the "drink responsibly" disclaimer appears:
In the video when he kept saying not possible an ad played that said something about getting better car insurance is possible and honestly that the most perfect ad placement I have ever seen
While vintage is important, its worth mentioning that older wines typically need to sit out longer than younger ones after being poured. From my experience, older wines will tend to have a funky barn yard taste to them when tasting it right after it’s been poured. Letting it sit (or breathe) for 15-20 mins (sometimes 30 mins -1 hour) will allow it to transform revealing the true taste/personality of the wine. Im no wine expert by any stretch of the imagination. This was a tip given to me by a sommelier and my mind was completely blown when he showed me the difference between the initial taste and the taste 30 mins after pouring a 1990 Cabernet Sauvignon; it honestly felt like I was drinking two completely different wines.
Peter makes the show great! Love his answers
We just witnessed a lifelong memory they both made. They will both forever remember filming this video and drinking and laughing and enjoying life.
You guys are so enjoyable to watch! I worked for Total Wine and both the red and the white of Chateau Larose De Vitrac are great values, the white is a Sauvignon blanc.
My bro laughing like he is about to cry because he promised the wife to drink half of the bottle in a romantic evening
i never knew videos like this could be that good. i was super entertained. found this searching for blind taste tests. these dudes know there stuff
bravo to the wine expert... especially for being patient when he was supposed to be tricked... i thought i read somewhere that wine quality above $20 was all the same?
I think the $20 rule is good advice for most people since the expert mentioned there are diminishing returns as you go up in price. He said something like a 1/2 point increase in quality can be double the price.
So if your $20 wine is a 7/10 then your $40 wine might only be a 7.5/10. In which case you may have been better of settling for the cheaper one.
Thats not true. There definetly a point of diminishing returns when you go above 30-40$ but up until 70-80$ there's still something to be had. Above 100$ is just about names, AOC and exclusivity and prestige.
A $10-$15 Chilean Carmenere or Argentinian Malbec are already very great in my opinion. I don't feel like I need anything else. A decent Spanish Tempranillo or Italian Chianti Classico or Primitivo (Zinfandel in US), a very good Napa Valley Carbernet Sauvignon, are probably all you need to pair with your weekend special meals like your BBQ, steak, or special pasta dish.
Then, moving upwards is $40 like my favourite Brunello di Montalcino. It is simply heaven, and was my rare experience in having "delicate" tasting-wine. Is it worth the price? Maybe yes, especially if you only open it during special occassion, like your birthday, your anniversary, celebrating your loved one's special days, promotion day, your favourite sports team winning something, or similar rare occassion. You want to splurge a bit more, pair it with prosciutto or fancy cheese to spoil your palate. I'd say keep several bottles in your cellar to be opened during your special moments. In this price range, there are trendy wines that made critics go "ga-ga" about, like the infamous Beaujolais, which I tried once or twice. It is indeed good, but I just don't get what's the deal. Generally, just stick to what you think is great, and watch out for general reviews.
Then we get to $80 such as the venerable Barolo. It is "unique" in a way that the wine is rather light and have a very distinct cherry note (the gaudy fruity aroma), and not as abbrassive (or "tannic") as normally wine should be. The consistency and the texture is indeed amazing, definitely doesn't taste like somebody forgot to stir the powder or syrup and giving the drinker weird and different taste in every sip. Was it worth it though? I can't say it is my type of wine, so no. There are plenty of super expensive wine with this characteristics, which I call "glorified flavoured water", and I have to say that I am not into it. Anything "Pinot Noir", which is arguably one of the fanciest grape, simply does not fit my palate. But it is often highly prized or praised, alluding to the Wine Master's explanation about what makes a wine special: Pinot Noir is just too damn difficult to grow and the yield isn't that much. The world's most expensive wine, Domaine Romanee-Conti (DRC) is made of Pinot Noir, and can command price above $5,000. The tasting note includes rare hint of umami-ness (savoury) to the tune of mushroom-like, which very unusual for the water-like consistency of typical cheap pinot noir. However, the right $20 Merlot wine will give you all the delicate savoury note, and sometimes a bonus like the herbal tobacco, clove, or nutmeg-like sweetness aroma. Cheap Australian or New Zealand wines will often add that signature tea tree or Eucalyptus smell if you are into that sort of thing. I would say you have to treat any wine in this price range as "experience" or "education".
Finally, how about the $120 wines like the Tignanello (apparently Meghan Markle's favourite) itself? Along with my other $150-$200 wine experiences, including the rare chance to taste $1,000 wines, I must say they are indeed not for everybody's financial condition, let alone palate. I mean, yeah they are indeed very "good" in their own way, but if I like orange juice, I might not be able to appreciate a very good apple juice. Red wines, especially Carbernet Sauvignon has the distinct tannic and oak wood smell when you swallow it. The better the wine, the more mellow and easier to swallow. It makes you feel like you are in an old library full of leather-covered books. The older or the more expensive the wine, the stronger the smell, giving the sense that the library is filled with more books. However, the right $20 Malbec or Syrah wine will give you more or less the same super heavy leathery-smell too. So, in the end, it really depends on what you are looking for. Now, this oaky wine is my kind of taste, but I'd rather save up for GeForce RTX3080 instead of blowing it for something that will turn into piss water in less than a day. Clearly, it requires some significant financial commitment, and normal people would not be comfortable in splurging this much amount of money, unless you are a hobbyist or wine enthusiast.
Like car enthusiasts, they tend to "build" instead of buying directly from the dealerships. Newly rich loves to buy supercars to announce their newly acquired status to the world, because they really feel the need to, and this is the kind of car that ranges from eye-watering $100,000 like the Lambo Huracan or Porsche 911 Turbo, all the way to $1 million super car territories like the McLaren P1, LaFerrari, or Porsche 918 Spyder. Real rich people stays within their sustainable means, and aim for safety and comfort in $60,000 Mercedes S-Class or BMW 7-series. Car enthusiasts are often more selective, they either buy classics like 1967 Ford Mustang or heavily tuned project car, even if they buy super cars, they tend to have specific car characteristics that they aim for. I think wine hobby is kind of the same. There are a lot of casual people hearing amazing stuff about expensive wine just like what normies hear about super cars, so they tend to get into those once they have the money, without knowing the pitfalls. Unless people have some self-esteem problem or other serious mental health issues, I normally don't advise them to spend too much on prestige.
@@7evive It also depends on the ability to taste the difference in the first place and the level of enjoyment that brings you. This distills (hehe) into an optimum for you where your tastebuds are pleased to the max and your wallet stays as full as possible to do other fun stuff.
@@AwoudeX definitely!
Imagine if he just gave the mentor the 12$ wine and said it cost 1000$ and he be like "you just got scammed hard"
I love his respect for the product and break down of what quality is in a wine - "price" is one thing but it doesn't make a good wine. A renown brand may command a heft price tag because of the rarity of their product but a "lesser" producer can still make an objectively better wine.
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I like how he pointed at the less expensive and more expensive wines in the start while explaining
Watching him geek out at one of the best tastings he has ever had in his long career was amazing!
I'm better for having seen it.
You gotta love this guy ! What a funny life loving person he is.
Remember, many people in his Milieu are arrongant Snobs who have some serious issues with their ego.
What a great guy, love him and he loves what he does.
Taking what the old man said, that to increase quality by half a point means doubling the price of the wine, he was pretty close to guessing the quality of the expensive wine (since doubling the price would mean it’s 100x’s more expensive). What I’m guessing is he thought the cheaper wine cost a bit more than it did. So maybe he thought it was a $17-20 bottle.