The Tale Of Two Robes | Julie Hogan | TEDxUniversityofNevada
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- In this insightful talk, sociologist Julie Hogan demonstrates the concept of cultural humility. She explores how differently Americans respond to her when wearing two traditional robes: Muslim burka and academic regalia. Dr. Hogan deep dives into cultural competence, deconstructs the prevailing paradigm, and offers cultural humility as a richer more meaningful way to understand not only the culture of others, but American culture as well. Dr. Julie A. Hogan is an associate professor at the University of Nevada Reno’s College of Business. Hogan earned her doctoral degree at the University of Nevada Las Vegas in Sociology. She earned her master’s degree at the University of California Chico when Pioneer Days (a university sanctioned week long alcohol and drug party) was broadcast on MTV. She has spent 30 years in the substance abuse prevention field, has amassed a whopping 38 million dollars in grants and contracts, and has three textbook publications.
For 30 years, Hogan has been deeply engaged in the topic of culture. Over the past ten years, she has been embracing diversity through the framework of cultural humility. In August of 2015 she met a student who changed her life. After experiencing some socially rich observations in the classroom, Hogan accepted a gift that changed the way she views American culture and herself. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
As long as it is your choice to wear it, I will protect that right for anyone to do so
for me it was me who begged my parents to wear it XDDD while my mom was like no u still young (i was 18yo ) XDDDDDDDD
very much same, I'll protect the right of any woman to wear a burqa and to not wear a burqa. I don't think anyone should decide what women wear besides she herself.
i wear the hijab and it is my choice at 26 i decided to wear it it was my choice between God [ Allah] and me. Thank you for your support. And the same for me i will let nobody to tell us to wear it or not to wear it, we are all free to wear what ever we want. if a woman wants to have green hair it is her choice i will not tell her what she has to do ornot to do ., we are all free to live the life we want. i am muslim and i wear the hijab fo plaise Allah my creator and i try to behave well in order after my death to go in paradise.take care . i love you sooooo much thank you.
The problem is it’s often a woman’s only choice which is no choice.
@@mg79277 the elephant in the room is the patriarchal archetype with religious/cultural zealot obsessions. Grow up and be humans - we are all connected. :)
As a Muslim woman who just recently decided to start wearing hijab, I am thankful for your tale of two robs
Congratz sister
As you know the true hijab in islam is to cover your body and your head except your hands and your face . Niqab is only one of arabic traditions it's not an obligation but I'm not calling all women who wears niqab are extremists
So wearing a hijab is not required by Islam?
@@soslothful It depends from which muslim background you come from. Normally educated and intellectual muslims will not wear this, "intellectual" being key word here since holding an academic degree is just that and has nothing to do with real intellect.
You have my sympathies Hadijah
Thank you, Professor Hogan for educating the public in this matter. ❤️
the viewership of this video is enough to understand people's mentality and approach towards robe wearing women
I know right! And it's one of the best I've seen
True
They fear going out of their bubble, rather stay on their comfortable lane of prejudice and discrimination towards others than challenge their own views and grow as people...
Dont worry, we need quality not quantity.
Because people don't want to see women wearing Ninja cloth
So wonderful and helps educate people about the reality truth of Muslim or Non Muslim Women wearing Hijabs, Niqabs & Burkas. Women who wear a Niqab are soo cute, modest, & beautiful 😍 💗 💖
God bless you my lady, we have a right to choose whatever we like to wear that fits us, our style🙏 ❤ ♥ ☪️
AMIN...AMIN...AMIN...YA RABBI!!!
احسنتي💞☻️
Thank you❤️
The niqab is never a barrier. My sister in law and my neighbour are niqab Wearing doctors.
They remove it during consulting, but with the recent covid-19 they have a flexible "mask-niqab" combination which they wear.
Hey. . Can i find oit whrre to buy the "mask Niqab"
@@MsEternalpeace Go to a tailor and he can create a ghost costume for you. Maybe you can cover the eyes part too, or you know what? Better yet, just stay home where it is safer and will guarantee that no one will ever see you. If you wanna take it up a notch, you might as well just bury yourself, yeah you will be very modest under the ground and no one can see your hair or body! 💐
You reminded me of an in incident fresh out of college at work about 45 minutes away from my highly Muslim populated home. I have a had scarf on and not burka, face exposed and western clothing, only my hair covered, normal hijab. Went out normal in my hometown. So at work during lunch my “American coworkers” and I decided decided to go to a local restaurant for lunch. As we walked in to a full restaurant, everyone became silent and all heads turned and looked at me. All I could say is “all eyes on me.” I just smiled, waved, and walked along to our tables. Had a great lunch with smiles and laughs. We Muslim women are not oppressed. We are highly educated, confident, respectable women. We go to college if we choose, we choose our careers and lol our own choices in life. You have the freedom to wear as little as you want, I have the freedom to wear as much as I want.
educated? when you have said anything to protect those who refuse to wear that? you simply highlight your idea of prejudice but the actual threat of those who refuse or question that in sharia countries is seen as cultural. meeeh
@@sincerely-t6t I defend everyone’s right to wear it or not wear it. That is my point. I don’t live in a country where sharia law is present and I am not speaking of those countries. I was speaking of my experience. And yes I am very educated although reading your reply was quite difficult.
Well said 👏👏👏
Yes ,you are free but in west and by rulls of demokrati and human rights in west not by islamic rulls, you can divorce, keep your child, choose your clothing....and many otherthings which is a dream for many women in most muslim countries. Wearing a Hija is 100% depended on who rulls in middeleast or muslim countries, scince late 80 and 90,s more country are rulld by muslim leader and since then you see more and more women wearing hijab, which it was quit different in 50s,60,s and 70s no women had hijab, so it is quit obvious that it is highly effekted by aeras political map.... of course in many countrys now in last few decades it has not been achoice but a force and all system and edjucation is on their hand. The effect of this few decades show itselfe in a very wide brainwash all over women who claim " hijab is our identy!!!!!"without knowing any thing about history and rulls of those country and women rolls in history.....Hijab is higly dicided by who rulls in middeleast.
By your hijab in west you support more and more your systers unfair and unjustice situation in the east muslim countries.
If you are educated learn som history and political hisorty ......
By the way education is a degree it has nothing to do with intellectual , consciousness and Awarness
Nobody cares that much about you
I wanted to cry, you were correct about the assumptions and the way people perceive and approach persons of multicultural backgrounds! 😭💖
😂😂😂
Wonderful. Hats off to your presentation in exposing this deep social issue.
Thank you. This is beautiful! I would love to learn more about the woman helping Prof. Hogan change her clothing. I really appreciate this insightful experience and holding a mirror to our culture on how we treat Muslim women.
I guess the problem here isn't the robs but rather the face cover..
This is what infuriates the west, the veil.
I really enjoyed the presentation, brilliant 👏👏👏
well now with the covid covering the face isn't a problem anymore is it ?
I agree! for instance, I hate it when people talk to me wearing a sunglas.
@@ruudmangelsdorf4484 then you should change yourself. Feeling annoyed for something like this is quite selfish, the world doesn't revolve around you. Sorry for the harsh words but sometimes people just need some tough love.
@@munasfam3174 she doesn’t have to change herself as that is her opinion. How about going to strict Muslim countries and telling them to change themselves and to be accepting to women who don’t want to cover their head and faces especially women who are from other countries and don’t follow that custom?
In the west the face is critical. You turn and look at the face, eyes, and facial expression when talking to someone. If someone is hiding their face it comes off as unpleasant and uninviting and gives off the subconscious vibe that you aren't interested in having a conversation. This doesn't just go for an islamic veil this goes for anytime you're hiding your face from someone.
Why is this talk not more popular??
I loved the presentation so much, recommend everyone to watch it👏
Absolutely impressive and encouraging pearls of wisdom. I learned from you so much as a Muslim woman. It does not matter what people wear but how they are judged through others. Thank u for not judging burka and Abaya. Islam is peace loving religion contrary to what non-Muslims may think of it. Islam accepts and teaches all to respect and care for all human beings regardless of creed, religion and ethnic background. Bravo to you for sending such a profound message. 👍❤️
Loved your way of transition and making concept clear
*"The crowd parted like Moses (pbuh) parted the Read Sea"* lmao😂🤧
I request all our brother and sisters to pray for Our father has passed away, may Allah Almighty forgive him, and may all Muslim brothers whose parents or one or both of them passed away, may Allah Almighty forgive them all and grant them a high position in Paradise.
May Allah make Jannatul Firdaus be his final abode.
AMIN...AMIN...AMIN...YA RABBI!!!!m
yes just pray for muslims only, typical sickening religious racism!
THIS WOMAN IS A GEM!
Her Name Is Professor Julie Hogan
God bless you Doctor, it is well presented..
Great courageous soul . loved your talk. Thank you, bless you. All your dreams come true.
AMIN...AMIN...AMIN...YA RABBI!!
Thank you for educating us!
Covering the face makes me uncomfortable because I can't see who I am talking too. It's not about culture for me, it's about wanting to connect with the person I am talking too and the face covering doesn't allow me to do that.
So just because you feel uncomfortable while talking to that person in that small moment, she must take such a drastic step as removing it entirely? Don't you think that's extremely selfish? How about you just get used to it? The niqab is worn in several countries and regions but no one minds, everyone's used to it. It's almost as if you haven't watched the tedtalk at all. It's not so much as about the person wearing it, but the person perceiving it.
@@munasfam3174 you could turn that around though and say the person covering their face is being selfish for doing it not caring that it makes others uncomfortable.....it goes both ways......in polite society you try and make others feel comfortable around you if possible.....although it is technically your choice what you wear.....a little self reflection is needed sometimes though, are you wearing something distracting or are you wearing something that matches the time, place, and situation you're in so that you blend in well in a healthy way?
It is true but it depends on the person too. Some people with niqab can communicate just fine.
how many women have been stoned or hanged or strangled because they refused to wear that??
Please stop taking your 'knowledge' from Fox News and evangelical websites. It's skewing your reality and misleading you.
Great presentation. Indeed, it says more about the observer than the wearer.
Wonderful! You are really intelligent! Thank you for this lesson. I should be a mandatory watch video for everyone.
10:18 and 11:37 if you do not have time to listen to all this whole video.....to be very precise you can listen this
wow. What an incredible talk. Just incredible. Thank you !
Got chills!!!! Awesome
I loved every second you are a gem!
She's a gem.
Masya Allah, this is so beautiful. Thank you for educating the public!
wow. amazing way of delivering the message
Thank you! for a very empowering speech ❤
Thank you, Professor Hogan for the open invitation to approach Muslim Women with curious inquisitive openness and not be fearful that their families will not disown or hurt them.
I appreciate the naive willingness you hold for accepting the public clothing imprisonment demonstrated by individuals who openly show they are not interested in me, myself, I.
To cover yourself entirely is a statement of isolation and obedience to patriarchal cultures (cultures in which men dress as they please).
I remember trying to ask a Samalia Women about her coverings. She glared at me and walked 5 steps away and faced the opposite direction. I generally give compliments to women and men, who have made an effort to look exceptional and stand out.
I have been taught and encouraged to treat Muslim Women as Muslim Men/Boys do, invisible. They are like trees standing in the modernness of our current time, as background white noise.
Please Muslim Men - grow up, become human beings. We are all connected. :)
"My robes may or may not tell you who really i am. more importantly they may tell you who you really are"...by prof HOGAN
Professor, I think you should have another PhD in history of all world. To see the truth about different cultures.
Thank you very much for this excellent presentation, however when I see you in your -with a muslim eye- it invokes the image of a muslim lady who was misinformed by her tutors that covering their faces as necessary to be a pious muslim woman. Actually face covering in Islam is mainly promoted by Saudi culture and its misinterpretation and misunderstanding of the Quraan. The rest of the robe is muslim correct, but the face issue is NOT.
You must look to Muslim women 100 or even 50 years ago in other Arab countries to now how far from truth you saying that covering the face is Saudi clutter . And reading explains of hejab verses by Muslim scholars , and before that knowing how Muslim women dressed at time if profit Mohamed ;
An eye opener
I like this country (USA) but I don't like the way we treat muslim women in America. This is what I like most from your speech, Prof. Julie Hogan. YOUR message is still relevant to our current social and political issues. I hope I can learn from your stunning speech. Love from Malang, Indonesia.
Well-said madam.
Beautiful and powerful speech.
💜
Why don't the men wear full face covering?
Because women aren't as sexdrived or tempted as men are towards women . When a woman covers up it protects her in some way.. this is one of many reasons
And in islam the niqab isn't a necessary most women dont wear it some just wear it as an act of worship
@@safaagennish8644 hypocrisy at it's best
Because , women dont generally gaze down men . Its the other way around. And men aren't as attractive as women too. So yeah things which are precious need to be preserved.
Men are asked to lower their gaze in Islam ☪️
Great talk
Professor of sociology I am a professor of psychology and I noticed a change in voice when she got changed into her new robe. She sounded now confident now empowering more free now strong more valued then even she was wearing her Islamic robe. If she didn't noticed that herself then she's not very aware of her own research
I agree with that.
Hmmm let me watch the video for a second time
Explaining something, introducing a subject x concluding an powerful essay. Duh.
I noticed that to. I wonder if she can wear her lingerie to stage and defend the empowerment of it. That's the way i see the niqab. Two extreme ends of psychosis women have deceived themselves to be empowering.
thank u my god protect you
Great !!!! "OPEN MIND"
Lol,I was shocked that she revealed her hair
I love this performance
Such a strong lecture
If only TED changed the thumbnail of this video, this amazing talk would get more views. Just goes to show how despicable people's mentality are towards niqab wearing women.
I'm not calling all muslim women who wears niqab are extremists or from the islamic state but the true hijab in islam ☪️ is to cover the hair and the body except the face and the hands but if a muslim woman has too attractive face then she should cover her face but without compulsion
Wearing whatever you want is not the issue, this video can be educational but dismisses the latest history that the first robe has in relationship with terrorist attacks. It’s part of the reason why some people don’t trust being to next to someone dressed from head to toe. It can be hard to trust people, much more when you don’t have a face to kind of inspect its expressions,genuineness and probable intentions.
Well, somebody with reasoning capacity! One would think that all the rest had got brain paralysis!
Thank you for clarifying misconceptions.
When I saw her in her first attire I thought she's nobody I can recognize. When in her second and third attires I was sure who she was and I could recognize her every single time I will see her again. That's the only difference for me.
Hmm, people recognise me more with my niqab on than without it actually.
❤ this is awesome why can not we accept and embrace those who wish to wear it. Why she cant wear in public. To be known for her personality and also her privacy. Shes amazing 👏 accepting everyone! ❤ stand for muslim wemon yes and letting them wear what they feel is right to them.
It’s not the robe, it’s the face covering veil. I want to be able to read the facial expressions of the person I’m talking to.
Right now I’m wearing a covid mask myself and it’s weird not knowing if people can tell that I’m smiling back at them. 😷 A mask limits human communication.
You got to feel it rather than seeing it.
Why? Aren't you able to tune in and connect through the many other cues you get when engaging someone, e.g. tone of voice, pace and pitch of speech, posture, gesticulation...? It's both lazy and arrogant to want others to adjust how they present themselves in a way that's convenient for you and makes you more comfortable, whereas you aren't prepared to try connecting in a deeper way than "reading" facial expressions. Besides which, it's entirely possible to completely misread facial expressions, esp when interacting with a culture you are unfamiliar.
@@The_OG_Yaseera because 93% of our communication is based in non verbal communication...and yes includes your face not just your eyes.
you can write a letter too...so what?? We are talking about people face to face. Non verbal communication includes your face with their expressions and micro expressions if you don't believe me do your research.
@@elena198539and no one said it didn't. The point is not seeing someone's face does not prevent communication or connection as the original comment suggests. But arrogance and ignorance can, as you aptly demonstrate here yourself by not actually reading my responses properly, and assuming human communication & connection has not been a subject of research and specialisation for me in my own profession for over 20 yrs.
Thank you very much.
Well said and done 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Hats off lady! You drove home the idea so well.
Wow!! what a lesson!!!
A very intelligent presentation!
Now that was a grate lesson and example.
i just saw Samina Ali's tedtalks where she said there is no mention of Hijab.. god knows what the reality or its like Hindu women asked to keep a vail for no reason at all.
Islam has been cruel to both its men and the world.
Magnificently presented. Thank you
Thank you
It's not just the robe, it's the covering of the face that's offensive. How many people would even know what an academic robe looks like. This isn't oxford. You dont teach in a robe like how it used to be in the uk. You would only see that academic robe she wears at commencement.
It's curious how you all hate about niqab while we've been wearing a mask during the whole pandemic and no one seems to complain about the mask and it's "security issues"
@@emoticonfeliz2129 not that this hypocrisy is anything new! As for feeling OFFENDED by the way others choose to dress... arrogant much!
@@The_OG_Yaseera For real, if someone doesn't like the way I dress shouldn't they just be looking the other way? What if I don't like their dress too? Should they change it to make me happy?
DID YOUR HUSBAND OR FATHER OR BROTHER LET YOU HAVE THIS SPEECH? DO YOU KNOW THAT FOR TRAVELING OR VISITING YOUR PARENTS YOU HAVE TO HAVE PERMISSION ... DO YOU KNOW THAT THE WAY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HTIS CHOICE IS VERY UNFAIR
Stocklohom Syndrome 🤣
Quran☞112 N.S
In the name of Allah,The most beneficent,The most merciful.
1☞Say(O Muhammad(peace be upon him)He is Allah,(The) One.
2☞Allah-us-Samad(The self-sufficient master,Whom all creatures need,He neither eats not drinks)
3☞He begets not,nor was he begotten;
4☞And there is none co-equal or comparable unto him.
when you look at me in my western clothes what are you thinking????
Well said!!!! 👏👏👏 I invite any people saying these women aren’t oppressed to actually go to some of the muslim countries and live there. Speak with the people
a person that could produce something... its up to you in the end.. its not to another...
It's also comparable to a barristers robe in canada. If you want to bring it into the comparrison.
Why can't we ditch the robes and simply allow people to be people?
There’s such thing as too open minded and cultural relativism. This woman is an example of both.
A professor of… wait for it… “Sociology!”What a big surprise!
Great speech, i loved it, thank you
thank you❤️🥺
Where the different emotion produced by different robes... It is not nothing personal but religion, and book associated with the robes.
Challenge you to do the same STUNT in SAUDI ARABIA!
When America is coming near to the principles of Islam; Saudi Arabia is moving away from it.
They do look like ninjas lol
Fantastic...............
نريد ترجمة للعربية
If Saudi Arabia, which is the birthplace of Islam, forbids woman to drive & punishes apostates by death, then you can't complain why Islamophobia exists.
God bless you
amazing💕💕💕🙏☪️
She really thought she did something huh
Because it’s temporary not forced
This is best
I look at you and I can feel in my heart that you are truly beautiful. Muslims are not terrorists. Islamphobia terrorism
ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!!!!
@@semsamatanovic5296 what are you a jihadist?
@@goldeneagle1762 Allahu Akbar means 'god is great', its nothing bad.
@@itsmeamina9134 yes i know but I'm talking about yelling that I see in this comment . So I felt that he's a jihadist
@@goldeneagle1762 Omg yelling.. No one is yelling, I just think she was excited, but it tells more about you than her. We can't always assume things you know, people are much more than a glimpse of a comment
Good way of preventing fallacy
of course, the difference between the Arabic robes and the academic robes are obvious. One robe is common traditional robes for Muslim conservative women since ancient times to this day. The other robe is not usual but exclusive to these days. You can not blame some people who are not well learned about the traditional Muslim women robes because they associated it with some gruesome incidents involving terrorism, fiction or not, where a woman terrorist wear a hijab o burka.
An unaccompanied women in a robe
Masyaallah...
If someone hides her identity in public places she has no right to move around in public as it will be always a potential threat to other people and their equitable right to know the identity of that person.
😂😂😂😂so funny,so what about doctors covering themselves in OTs & during covid? plz go n school ur mind
We have the right. And we do it. And we do it well. 🙏🏾🙂
Batwoman?
Türkçe??
when in ROME !!!!! its called respect .
she says no burden with the collage rob !! wrong the burden is to teach children not corrupt there minds but to open them !! so THEY ! can make there choices , not yours !!! that is the burden of this rob !!!!!
niqab is not an obligation in Islam it's only an arabic tradition the true hijab in Islam is to cover the hair and the body except the face and the hands
There's no such thing as Hijab for women in the Quran. You need to educate yourself first before speaking ignorance and misleading people.
@@amunra3250 alright then how do you explain this verse smart guy : "و ليضربن بخمرهن علي جيوبهن "
@@amunra3250 no answer ? Then you're lying
Sorry I judged wrong
If only thumbnail was not a woman wearing Burkha and veil, it could have garnered more of a viewership.....
Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 74, Hadith Number 257.
Narrated By ‘Aisha: (The wife of the Prophet) ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab used to say to Allah’s Apostle “Let your wives be veiled” But he did not do so. The wives of the Prophet used to go out to answer the call of nature at night only at Al-Manasi.’ Once Sauda, the daughter of Zam’a went out and she was a tall woman. ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab saw her while he was in a gathering, and said, “I have recognized you, O Sauda!” He (‘Umar) said so as he was anxious for some Divine orders regarding the veil (the veiling of women.) So Allah revealed the Verse of veiling. (Al-Hijab; a complete body cover excluding the eyes). (See Hadith No. 148, Vol. 1)
Beautifully, beautifully spoken and illustrated - Bravo, Dr. Hogan!