Was Twilight the Real Villain of G4?

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  • @niobedragones7347
    @niobedragones7347 Місяць тому +253

    This theory oddly makes sense all things considered, which is absolutely wild, and does anyone else still confused as to why Luna decided to retire with celestia even though she'd only been back for 5 years?, surely she could have been there to help directly rule as well as teaching Twilight the ins and outs of ruling a country, and honestly Twilight taking the throne at such a young age just doesn't make sense to me.. especially since we don't know if it's confirmed that she's actually immortal or not.

    • @ghostdraco24
      @ghostdraco24 Місяць тому +25

      It was confirmed by the authors that Twilight will not outlive the mane six

    • @DarkSnowGaming1
      @DarkSnowGaming1 Місяць тому

      ​@@ghostdraco24True but we don't know how that came to be, did she die by natural causes?

    • @LadyLeomon
      @LadyLeomon Місяць тому +28

      @@ghostdraco24then Celestia’s decision makes even _less_ sense, because let’s be honest: the Ponies of Equestria are dumbasses. Because in less than a century, without a literal *Princess of Friendship* around to tell them “hey, be friends!” they regressed to their Pre-Celestia days, racism and all. For all her flaws and bad decisions everyone got along during Celestia’s reign. Makes me wonder how badly Twilight f*cked up once she was gone 😒😒😒

    • @michaelapucca1
      @michaelapucca1 Місяць тому +14

      ​@ghostdraco24 She's an alicorn, so not sure what kind of crack the authors are on 😂 alicorns live longer than normal ponies, even if they aren't truly immortal

    • @LadyLeomon
      @LadyLeomon Місяць тому +14

      @@michaelapucca1 glad others see it, it’s like everyone is ignoring the fact Celestia and Luna are both over 1000 years old!

  • @jeshirekitenkatt1212
    @jeshirekitenkatt1212 Місяць тому +128

    I agree with this on all but one point: Twilight didn't just turn out this way on her own. It's very much implied that Twilight has been being groomed for the role of royalty since she gained her cutiemark. Twi is coerced into making friends by Celestia using a manufactured crisis (read: something Celestia 100% knew was happening, kept from everyone anyways, and then gaslit Twi wrt how she responded to being told about it) because she knows Twilight will not be an effective ruler if she doesn't have people skills. She left Discord out in the open where something as simple as a misunderstanding between friends could free him. She sends Twilight Starswirl's unfinished spell, and never warns her not to cast it in it's current state. Just about every world-threatening crisis (or scenario where the mane 6 are incapacitated, which could count since them being tied to the elements leaves the world more vulnerable to threats. Thanks Celestia.) leading up to Twi's ascension, barring the changeling invasion, can be directly traced back to Celestia either doing something or conversely refusing to do anything at all.
    Twi is initially hesitant to take on any leadership roles and doesn't initially automatically gravitate towards them (Winter Wrap Up comes to mind - she just wants to be able to participate, her becoming the organizer feels pretty natural to me there honestly). She's determined and she'll step up if there's no other options, but she's initially more interested in studying and sharing what she knows than spending time managing others. Twi is initially unsure of being an alicorn. Who's there to normalize all of this stuff her? Celestia and her adopted niece that she had form a sisterly bond with twilight (we can assume) right after Celestia takes her in as her student. It wouldn't be the first time Celestia's adopted someone and raised them into self-centered, entitled behavior - Prince Blue Blood exists, and despite what we see of Cadence around Twi, Celestia nor anyone else batted an eye at 'Cadence's' 'stressed' behavior when Chrysalis is parasitizing her fiancé. Hell, who is directly responsible for Twi feeling like she must know better than everyone else at all times *or else*? The way Twi talks it seems like she was raised more by the royal family than her parents. And doesn't the way she learns to goad people into doing exactly what she wants reminiscent of someone other than her mother?
    Twi can be an awful character, but a lot of those flaws, canonically, can be traced back to the people that chose to instill much of that in her for their own gain. Celestia was looking for someone to take over before she even met Twi, the plan was always to shunt everything onto someone else and (very possibly) abscond with her sister. She's shown to be pretty annoyed with her position at random times, and if you consider those time to just be the ones where the mask slips, Celestia becomes a completely different character with 1000s of years of practice in putting on a face for people to get what she wants.

    • @diminie_chimket
      @diminie_chimket Місяць тому +1

      April Fools

    • @teenageturtlefan8031
      @teenageturtlefan8031 Місяць тому +12

      You could say Sunset Shimmer was her failed first attempt and so she created the school of magic to pick the best next candidate.

    • @bluepuppystudios3617
      @bluepuppystudios3617 18 днів тому

      True she was groomed. This is better than the entire video

  • @animationrainritewolf8388
    @animationrainritewolf8388 2 роки тому +297

    I don't whether to call this an April Fools Prank or an Well Done Character Analysis

    • @Gumball2
      @Gumball2  2 роки тому +66

      Possibly both 😅

    • @JaylenIrving
      @JaylenIrving Місяць тому +8

      I hope you know that this is just a theory. I do not believe Twilight Sparkle is evil, but I believe she is learning friendship because in season one, and we see her reading the prophecy about nightmare moon, and when she’s going to where she lives library. we see spike do you running towards twilight and twilight slammed the door open and spike falls down and then spike that we have a present from moon dancer, and twilight saying we don’t have time for that stuff, but we’re on break and also twilight ask Spike to give her the book about old ancient prophecies spike believing that nightmare moon was just some old ponytail but then later in the episode, we see twilight meeting the mane, six pinkie pie applejack Rainbow Dash and rarity, and we do see her trying to resist making friends, but in the second episode, where she brings nightmare, moon, back into her normal self as princess Luna we see her genuinely caring about her friends and in the movie when twilight yells at pinkie pie when she says well, maybe I would’ve been better off without friends like you she genuinely feel sorry as he tries to say pinky I and pinky says I can’t talk to you right now and don’t forget the season two episode the return of harmony where the villain discord comes back, and he tricks the main sex into being the opposite of their true selves, and then twilight and her moment of downfall and sadness she realized when princess Celestia sent back those letters she realized what friendship was, and she told spike. Remember when we got here, I said, the future of a Equestria does not depend on me making friends, but the opposite was true and we realize she learned great lessons of friendship over the years, heck and the season four episode when discord, plunder seeds start taking over Ponyville discord says is these words I did not know you were the type of pony to believe she was more important, and then every pony else and then twilight says I’m not important then to anyone I’m sorry to assume that discord says it’s just that you agree to their plan to come back here to save your precious princess self, while your friends walking to danger for you I’m sure you all be the best of friends again when they return from that deeply get bonding experience that they’re having without you, then twilight goes back to her friend in the other free forest, and then she told her friends that they have to give up the elements of harmony to save the tree of harmony, and she realizes more importantly, what makes friendship friendship, so in the shell, and in the movie, she is not evil sure, she has made mistakes and flaws, but we all do so you should not judge twilight on those tiny little
      Actions and realize that she has made lots of mistakes, but that doesn’t make twilight sparkle evil

    • @ikben3983
      @ikben3983 Місяць тому +2

      ​@JaylenIrving u arent meant to write books in the comments you know

    • @shannongrymes6264
      @shannongrymes6264 Місяць тому

      Same here

    • @SBaby
      @SBaby 29 днів тому +2

      @@ikben3983 Did you actually read any of his comment? Because it really isn't that long compared to some of the ones I've seen. I fear for your sanity if you go to Attack on Titan videos and read some of those discussions, because what is posted here is nothing compared to the length of those posts.

  • @ohsovague
    @ohsovague Місяць тому +88

    So this video is just like blowing up now? Not that im complaining, this is a hidden gem! Even if it was an April Fools joke i still really enjoyed watching this!

  • @niobedragones7347
    @niobedragones7347 Місяць тому +88

    I never really thought that the title of "the princess of friendship." Made that much sense for Twilight, considering she isn't exactly the greatest at it, when you look closer she just has REALLY good persuasion skills which helps her to create strong political allies add peace treaties with other countries, at least that's how I saw it. And not as a literal just friendship thing.
    She's seems very incapable of respecting other people's beliefs specifically when it doesn't make logical sense to her, ( *cough cough, Pinky* ) so she can come off as very insensitive and disrespectful at times, Twilight is not the princess of friendship. She's the princess of political relationships.

  • @leemetcalf5136
    @leemetcalf5136 Місяць тому +164

    The real villain is gummy

  • @VolkZ-wl4ci
    @VolkZ-wl4ci Місяць тому +56

    This actually made me like Twilight more lol.

  • @Constantine_Cvl8
    @Constantine_Cvl8 Місяць тому +98

    I've always loved the concept of Twilight secretly scheming and manipulating everyone for years, tricking Harmony itself and finally reveals her true nature by snatching the bell from Pinkie before Discord can get his magic back, transforming into her "evil" form, maybe shattering the petrified trio, taking over Equestria and the rest of the world.
    Man, I would love to read a fanfic about that. Maybe have the other characters take refuge in the human world or something, starting a rebellion.

    • @cenoura-4221
      @cenoura-4221 Місяць тому +6

      Nah, Twilight is not smart enough for this. Y'know, she freaks out because of a lesson, she would never have the cold-blood to betray her friends and family, and she doesn't have any good reason to do that anyway.

    • @Constantine_Cvl8
      @Constantine_Cvl8 Місяць тому +8

      @@cenoura-4221 Well yeah, this concept is more of an AU. I thought my comment made it obvious?
      Also, maybe she wanted to test out how many ponies the Want-it-Need-it spell can affect, but needed a cover story, so she put up an act of stressing out over a Friendship Report to justify her using it out of "desperation" when she always intended to use it from the start.
      I'm not talking about how canon Twi is secretly evil, I'm talking about how interesting a story with an evil Twi who has been undercover up until the finale would be.

    • @cenoura-4221
      @cenoura-4221 Місяць тому +1

      @@Constantine_Cvl8 Well, for me it would depend on how well-made the story would be, the reasons for Twilight to be evil, and how accurate it would be. But this is just my opinion though.
      And Twilight can't just fake a freakout, mostly because sometimes she was crying/being insane and having hallucinations alone :/
      But I understand your point

    • @Constantine_Cvl8
      @Constantine_Cvl8 Місяць тому +7

      @@cenoura-4221 Well certainly, it would be best if the story was well-made.
      Here's a concept that I think _could_ work :
      Personally, I like to think that it all started with the Rainboom. When she had her magic flare, it was Twilight's "Sunset Mirror Moment", her first taste of power and first time realizing her own potential.
      And ever since then, she has always been striving to return to that level.
      At first, it was just a noble, personal endeavor, but later, as she continued to be taught and raised by Celestia, her ambitions grew as well, but unlike her predecessor, she didn't just want to be an equal to Celestia, she wanted to surpass the Princess, she wanted the whole *world* under her hooves.
      Unlike Sunset, Twilight doesn't wear her intentions on her sleeve, she was discreet, putting up a façade of a bookish mare who tends to get quite engrossed by her studies, she knew if she just flaunted her desire for power, it wouldn't give her a very good reputation.
      She was also more clever at scheming than Sunset, being able to properly plan things with a multitude of backups and failsafes, her logic-driven mind helping her create a web of plans that interconnect with each other that can adapt to any possible scenario.
      Considering she was chosen by Harmony itself to become the bearer of Magic, it's no suprise she was incredibly talented at it, and with her plans now set it motion, all she needed to do as she waited was to study any and all forms of magic that'll be useful for her objective, and in her constant studies she dicovered the story of Nightmare Moon years before Celestia had intended her to, which led Twilight down a rabbit hole of studying ancient artifacts of power, the Elements, trinkets, staffs, weapons, she held on to any knowledge of them that she could find.
      And it all finally came into fruition, on the longest day of the thousandth year, she finally managed to trick Harmony itself into giving her the first step to ruling Equestria and beyond.

    • @cenoura-4221
      @cenoura-4221 Місяць тому +4

      @@Constantine_Cvl8 To be honest... I kinda liked it. I have another concept that I would like to share - inspired by the stories of another characters, of another shows - for villain Twilight. And maybe I write about it someday. But just warning you, this is definetly not for kids, so yeah, some TW here.
      The most important key to this AU of villain Twilight is _Spike._ As you know, Spike is a dragon... A dragon, in a Kingdom that only have _ponies._ And we saw how evil ponies can be, to the ones they consider different from them - like humans. Like, the CMCs were literally bullied because they didn't have cutie-marks _yet._ Now imagine, another creature? Even worse, a _dragon,_ predators that are so powerful that some ponies have literally pure FEAR of this creatures - creatures that have a REALLY bad reputation. Most ponies have nothing but negative emotions because of this creatures; fear, anger, maybe even anxiety? Knowing that at any moment, any dragon could simply erase half of Canterlot in seconds. But, where all of this negativity would fall? Of course, on the shoulders of the _only dragon_ that live with ponies. Spike since his birth would live in a place that never truly accepted him, that _hated_ him, just because he _exists,_ because in the eyes of mostly ponies, he is a _freak_ (Ponyville won't treat him this way. Or maybe would after the "Secret of my Excess", with a lot of ponies feeling fear or angry, but not all of them).
      Spike suffering just because of his race, is a thing that I can perfectly see. We saw how ponies of Canterlot - and even Ponyville - can treat their own species, just because their born in a different place, or just because they _still_ don't have their cutie marks.
      And I know, and you know, how someone can suffer, because of _bullying,_ and the consequences of this act.
      At some point, ponies of some big city would treat Spike so badly, that we would simply give up. And when I say "give up", I say give up on living.
      Yeah, I know, this is not a thing that Spike would do, I think... Well, Spike's problems were never taken much seriously in the show, but if you analyze him, you see that his life really wasn't easy, and it could be really worse, just because he is a dragon. Spike committing this act would be him wanting to free himself from all his pain, and from a world that never liked him - he doesn't even know if his biological parents loved him at all.
      _(By the way, this paragraph here its just to say: I will not consider all the Spike abuse in this show. All the Spike abuse that happened because of his own friends and family, are just out-of-characters things for "comedy", so I will not consider this.)_
      And after all this, Twilight enters. After seeing her little brother die in a so young age, she goes though a pain that she never felt before. She couldn't save him- but why? Why he did this? He didn't liked to live with her? He didn't liked her? She did something wrong? Why he lied, saying that everything were okay, with a smile that she thought it was real? Why she didn't helped him when she had the chance?
      But at some point, Twilight discovers the truth, and the main reason for him to give up, and worse of all this: that the ponies, the "cute, pretty, and good" ponies that she gave her life to protect, took the life of the one she loved the most. And the worst? They didn't cared at all. But why would this ponies care? The dragon is dead, Equestria is safe! The monster doesn't exists anymore.
      _Twilight never felt so much anger before._
      The grief because for losing her brother, the guilty, the anger. All of this would be bottled up, and Twilight would start to asking herself: Why even try? They don't deserve any of this. Twilight try so much to protect Equestria, and this is what Equestria does to her? To her _Family?_
      If we analyze Nightmare Moon, it's see to see that her objective IS a good objective, she just wants the love that her sister had, but Nightmare Moon wants to have this love in a completely distorted way, because of her anger and jealousy/envy. Eventually, Twilight would think in a way, to bring _True Harmony,_ but not with the _right methods,_ like Nightmare Moon.
      As you know, dark magic in MLP is basically emotional magic, emotional magic that comes from dark emotions. Twilight would bottle up all of her sadness, anger and guilty, that it would take a form, a form of pure, raw, dark magic, and this form is _Midnight Sparkle,_ and now with only one objective: bring _True Harmony_ to Equestria, even if this means to be one of the worst tyrants that the world ever seen.
      Well, this is my AU. What you think?

  • @GooseGirl1037
    @GooseGirl1037 Місяць тому +41

    I HIGHLY DOUBT generation 5 is gonna get into this. They had like’ SIX SEASONS to get their shit together and the last one ended with an episode called “secret of starlight” and DIDNT EVEN HAVE HER IN THE EPISODE

  • @Edwardtheblue2
    @Edwardtheblue2 Місяць тому +58

    Its a funny video, but on a real note the points made on this video are meh, I could rebuttal each one

    • @Autisteek-i3c
      @Autisteek-i3c Місяць тому +10

      Thank you, I thought I was the only one !

    • @hearmeout1767
      @hearmeout1767 Місяць тому +9

      You should make a video responding to it

    • @Edwardtheblue2
      @Edwardtheblue2 Місяць тому +2

      @@hearmeout1767 I will! Ill send you the link once finished:)

    • @helloworld7515
      @helloworld7515 10 днів тому

      Given that this is an old April fool’s video, this is expected

  • @ohsovague
    @ohsovague Місяць тому +53

    Friendly reminder to all.the new people watching this that you should check the upload date because this was literally an April fools video 😭 the amount of people taking this theory serious and calling it stupid is surprising

    • @Demonetization_Symbol
      @Demonetization_Symbol Місяць тому +2

      It is?

    • @galaxystarstudios7160
      @galaxystarstudios7160 Місяць тому +1

      @@Demonetization_Symbolyep! I took this seriously until I realized it was uploaded on April Fools.

    • @reneedittmer9625
      @reneedittmer9625 5 днів тому

      Huh? So we actually don't think that Twilight is the real villain?? Me confused 🫠
      Also it only says that it was uploaded two years ago, I think. But tbh, Twilight definitely is very opinionated and does have some narcissistic and OCD traits though.

    • @maryamsalah135
      @maryamsalah135 22 години тому

      Well, to be quite honest, I actually likes this theory/analysis 😅

  • @aaazartiscool
    @aaazartiscool Місяць тому +15

    Honestly even as a joke i like this idea but honestly it oddly feels real because those are solid points to me

  • @pcapcom5283
    @pcapcom5283 Місяць тому +8

    This whole analysis you gave might make a good premise in the Series.
    I love Friendship is Magic, I don't hate that they ended it but I hated the way they ended it, because there is so much more to include to that Series.
    I would love to see a My Little Pony villain who can use Friendship as a tool to serve as an eye-opener for Twilight.

  • @CraneRuinWCUE
    @CraneRuinWCUE Місяць тому +14

    The way you describe how Twilight manipulates everyone, reminds me of the Sirens from EG.

  • @rodrigotapia7832
    @rodrigotapia7832 Місяць тому +10

    Equestria was shattered by an even Worse Villain, Opaline

  • @aprilvaiarella435
    @aprilvaiarella435 Місяць тому +24

    I know that this is old and a joke, but you're not exactly wrong either. Some of the points were overblown or misrepresented sure, but the assessment of her overall personality and how she treats others around her is accurate. She's dismissive and self-centered toward anyone who has a lower statis than her and even some who have the same statis and just aren't alicorns.
    Also, you left out the part were she decides on her own that her friends, some who have multiple/full-time jobs, will just drop everything and work for her at her school without consulting them and they weren't allowed to say no. Or the fact that the friendship lessons she taught at the school were just self-glorification.
    There's more, so much more, but yeah, she's a terrible princess of friendship. Pinkie Pie or Rarity would have been better options for that title. Twilight was more the princess of nepotism.

  • @kaylynrosehart5915
    @kaylynrosehart5915 10 місяців тому +18

    Unintentional research for one of my stories. This video has given me so many ideas!

  • @rivalthegrey7.562
    @rivalthegrey7.562 Місяць тому +7

    9:30 i’m going to repeat a quote from Applejack “what kind of fertiliser have you rubbed your nose in?”

  • @sweetdreams1028
    @sweetdreams1028 Рік тому +27

    Wether or not that this is just an April Fool's video, while I love Twilight, the show completely ignores her mistakes.
    The main issue I have with her is in the final two episodes. In "The Ending of the End Part 2" she and her friends smile at the what is basically preatated murder of their enemies which is exactly what the villain trio where doing to them moments ago! So does that mean we're supposed to hate the heroes of the show? I have a big issue with this as in the final episode Twilight's still acting like a dictator over Luster. Cause at first she acts like she supports Luster's view on friendship, but later gaslights her student into accepting friendship. And yet everyone acts so surprised with Twilight creating the unity crystals the way she's presented as doing so far in G5...

  • @Aashbard01
    @Aashbard01 Місяць тому +6

    Twilight does have a lot of issues and sometimes makes me uncomfortable but she isn't necessarily as bad as you say. Though she is deeply flawed in her ignorance and selfishness she can be a little mean at times.
    My favourite characters are actually Apple Jack and Pinkie. Apple Jack is so sincere, hardworking and a loving and kind sister and Pinkie spreads joy where ever she goes. She makes me smile when she's on screen with her fun and humorous language of love towards not only her best friends but her entire town!! 🤗🤗💕

  • @partyofnone159
    @partyofnone159 Місяць тому +11

    Technically this is super funny but could be seen as truth and I actually did turn twilight into a villain in my own AU because it’s way too easy and g5 just makes it more likely in my opinion that twilight was truly a power hungry pony villain 😂

  • @brontolope
    @brontolope Місяць тому +15

    While this does make sense in one sense, there is a lot of information that is left out. Like Starlight's village; she'd taken their magic and marks away without taking her own away. That is a dictatorship. And while I agree that Twilight forces her own agenda on others (much like real world politics), what Starlight did was absolutely not okay.
    But all in all, I actually agree that Twilight wasn't a good character. Well written yes, but on the good vs evil scale, I would put her on the spectrum of bad but not yet evil.

  • @Aashbard01
    @Aashbard01 Місяць тому +18

    Wasn't starlight's behaviour in "Cutie Map" 1 & 2 cultish?
    Even Pinkie Pie didn't trust her
    Other than that I agree with everything else you said, you're mostly right

  • @astralmilk
    @astralmilk Місяць тому +6

    Twilight ate 🤷‍♀️

  • @moonrabbit9621
    @moonrabbit9621 Рік тому +23

    this is a fantastic analysis, and you've done a great job of explaining EVERYTHING ive thought since i grew up with FIM. I never liked Twilight's personality, just her design. she always came across and very..Mary Sue, but a little different. everything she does wrong is immediately forgiven and she is rarely punished severely for things she does incorrectly. she treats her friends just okay, the other ponies seem like they genuinely love each other so much more than she does.

    • @rensasal
      @rensasal 9 місяців тому +12

      this is an april fools joke.. idk what ur on about that she treats her friends just "okay", she obviously loves her friends to the bottom of her heart. YES maybe her mistakes shouldn't be ignored so much, but cmon.. saying she actually uses her friends is just crazy.. you have to had watched the show with a blind eye if you actually think this.
      i can literally go through every single point in this video and say how incorrect and twisted they are. this video is so stupid, and i know that's the point but theres no way you seriously agree w this because this video got EVERYTHING wrong with FiM..

    • @LilMissForgotten-nx4kf
      @LilMissForgotten-nx4kf Місяць тому +5

      I know this was a year ago. But twilight doesn't use her friends. She makes obvious mistakes yeah but she doesn't use them

    • @eco921
      @eco921 Місяць тому +10

      you could say this about any character. Rainbow dash literally sold her friend for a book and she was forgiven easily. Rarity basically made her friends work as if they were in a sweatshop because she wanted to beat another pony that stole her designs. Every person has had their bad moments in the show

    • @pearlykangel
      @pearlykangel Місяць тому +3

      oh so you missed the point of the show

    • @diminie_chimket
      @diminie_chimket Місяць тому +1

      April Fools

  • @DoloresMadrigalsGirlfriend
    @DoloresMadrigalsGirlfriend 24 дні тому +1

    Pinkie’s purpose is to help people stay positive and try to find the good even in the most hard-knock situations.

  • @Gloomskiida
    @Gloomskiida Місяць тому +3

    I was about to go into a media literacy rant and then I saw the upload date was April fool's day

  • @Sparklealice361
    @Sparklealice361 Місяць тому +1

    In the first two seasons, she could be sometimes rude and abrupt, especially in a Canterlot wedding where she shouted at Cadance instead of talking about what was happening.

  • @josephward1071
    @josephward1071 2 роки тому +26

    Twilight Sparkle is not Evil

  • @moonlightfalling3130
    @moonlightfalling3130 Місяць тому +2

    This is very convincing, and a well done video essay. My rebuttal relies on a few points, Occam’s razor, this is a cartoon so things have to be dramatized and interesting, we don’t see every day of these pony’s lives and have reason to believe the conflicts are the episodes, the value of friendship is inherent, people need interpersonal connection as it is the means to create a more peaceful and knowledgeable world.

  • @danielrhouck
    @danielrhouck Місяць тому +4

    I thought this was a recent video but at about the 3 minute mark I checked the upload date

    • @rodrigotapia7832
      @rodrigotapia7832 Місяць тому

      he didnt know about Opaline

    • @danielrhouck
      @danielrhouck Місяць тому

      @@rodrigotapia7832 I didn’t mean the upload year, I meant the month and day

  • @TabuuRulesTheSmashVerse2008
    @TabuuRulesTheSmashVerse2008 Місяць тому +2

    Awesome video when you were talking about how manipulative Twilight is I thought she was like Cozy Glow because she also uses friendship for her own game to. I think Celestria is also manipulative she wanted Discord to be redeemed just to use him and it makes since Discord is the most powerful MLP character.

  • @edikind3347
    @edikind3347 Місяць тому +4

    Bro just did a video on cozy glow friendship philosophy.

  • @calebprescott440
    @calebprescott440 Місяць тому +3

    Looking back I wish twilight was never a princess

  • @ikben3983
    @ikben3983 Місяць тому +3

    I love how you just leave a lot of important data out, like how starlight locked her up and tried to brainwash her

  • @Paul_cool_yup
    @Paul_cool_yup 17 днів тому

    I have never thought about it this way. This is kind of opening my mind.

  • @Kahvinporo
    @Kahvinporo Місяць тому +1

    Villain Twily is really interesting concept.

  • @kasemuffin6133
    @kasemuffin6133 59 секунд тому

    If you apply enough scrutiny you will find people's own interests in almost, every action they take even if it is just their brain begging for a chemical release.

  • @teenageturtlefan8031
    @teenageturtlefan8031 Місяць тому +1

    I know this is an April Fools video, you can kind of tell by the fact you call Starlight "The cult leader" Glimmer a saint, but I still find it fun to think different theories that paint the characters in a different light by using cannon events from the show, if only for the "what if" of it all.

  • @bethanysingsmrs849
    @bethanysingsmrs849 23 дні тому +2

    To be honest I don't really agree. I think a lot of twilights struggle with social cues and making friends is due to her being written neurodivergent (Im autistic myslef and often can struggle with empathy , or socal cues ect) . But this was a nice video regardless and interesting theory to look into

  • @Sunny12735
    @Sunny12735 5 місяців тому +11

    I totally agree with this theory. I totally agree that twilight is evil. I mean in one episode she literally just goes insane because she couldn’t figure out a friendship lesson and she’s been getting all the credit for everything and every single episode. Celestia didn’t even realize that was happening

    • @grace19005
      @grace19005 Місяць тому

      The fact that you're agreeing with this video when its an April's fool jokes shows how dumb you are lmao..Twilight is the complete opposite of evil, this video wasn't serious

    • @laveasta
      @laveasta Місяць тому +2

      Celestia sucks, she almost literally never helped anyone with anything 😭

    • @mistylover7398
      @mistylover7398 Місяць тому

      ​@@laveasta so??

    • @mistylover7398
      @mistylover7398 Місяць тому

      Justice requires order.

    • @FantasticFawnleap
      @FantasticFawnleap Місяць тому

      @@laveasta..

  • @TheBeverege
    @TheBeverege 4 дні тому

    Sounds like a slander piece written by chrysalis. Very well done too

  • @SDEdwoodhy132-sf2xi
    @SDEdwoodhy132-sf2xi Місяць тому +2

    2:35 2:28 *is*
    3:10
    3:29 derailing 3:35
    4:27 4:21 4:34 merely
    4:48 4:46 serve you
    5:44 9 of them 5:52
    7:30 least of the work
    10:20 10:15
    11:40 starswirl 12:04
    13:52
    15:25 15:18
    18:00 this

  • @CottenVee
    @CottenVee 24 дні тому

    She didn't even WANT friendship.

  • @Jenique682
    @Jenique682 4 дні тому +1

    It's not her fault

  • @TiMoThY211991
    @TiMoThY211991 Місяць тому +3

    If this was not intended merely as a joke, tben I must say that most of your analysis is in extremely bad faith and is more tantamount to a character assassination. I was interested if you would bring up any actual salient points as to whether Twilight was ever fit to rule, but few if any actually made it into the video.
    To me, the moment that proved that Twilight was absolutely unfit to lead Equestria came in Twilight's Kingdom. Regardless of the outcome, she made an objectively wrong and selfish choice, which put her happiness and the safety of her friends above the welfare of every other citizen of Equestria! Twilight was entrusted with the alicorn magic of the rightful rulers of the country, and it's closest ally, with the express instruction that she must keep it from falling into the hands of Tirek (implicitly at any cost). Not to use it as she saw fit and to use her best judgment as to wheter or not to hand it over to the villain. For all intents and purposes, when Twilight surrendered the alicorn magic, she had no backup plan. She was not aware that she'd be given the final key to the chest, and even if she had, she had no reason to believe that opening the chest would cause Tirek's defeat! She essentially had chosen to doom her nation to destruction and ruin, her monarchs to endless imprisonment, the Sun and Moon themselves uncontrollable or in the control of a tyrant, and essentially no known power in the world that could ever stop him! It could have been that she had doomed the entire world for the immediate safety of a handful of people that were important to her. Regardless of the fact that this led to the best possible outcome, it should have proved to Celestia that Twilight did not have the mindset required to make the difficult decisions a ruler sometimes must make; to put the safety and welbeing of the nation over one's personal happiness and that of their loved ones. It was the opposite of how she passed the "test" in the Crystal Empire, when the stakes were higher, she would put her friends above her people, and that is something a ruler must never do.

  • @creativeponyproductions4634
    @creativeponyproductions4634 25 днів тому +1

    The hero does not have to be likeable.

  • @BlindingStorm95
    @BlindingStorm95 Місяць тому

    I Mean Your Not Wrong. Even If Shes Now A Villain Still Love Her. Shes Fun XD

  • @Mr_Cork
    @Mr_Cork Місяць тому +2

    God damn north korea mentioned in a mlp video 🤯

  • @winternetnerd
    @winternetnerd 24 дні тому +2

    Idk bro i think ur missing the point
    Nah but fr this is kinda interesting, even if it is a joke with many MANY oversights, its still an interesting perspective.

  • @Vici.Ritt_
    @Vici.Ritt_ 18 днів тому

    It probably was just an April fools joke but some of this actually would make great sense for example with the villains.. I always wondered why they didn't even attempt to reform a literal child 😂

  • @englishwithmissalice25
    @englishwithmissalice25 22 дні тому

    Wait this video just made me realize Twi is pretty much no better than Cozy Glow,almost as if she is an grown Cozy,like exact same mentality. In Cozy's words-''Frienship is power.'',same thing.(Edit:haha,just got to the part talking about Cozy pretty much the same thing)

  • @AlfieTrevor4444
    @AlfieTrevor4444 Місяць тому +1

    This all makes sense...... Except for you acting like what Starlight did to the village was a good thing

  • @Triedsigh
    @Triedsigh Місяць тому +3

    Pinkie is best pony.

    • @mistylover7398
      @mistylover7398 Місяць тому

      Fluttershy :

    • @Triedsigh
      @Triedsigh Місяць тому +1

      @@mistylover7398 -is a year older than Pinkie Pie. What's your point?

    • @mistylover7398
      @mistylover7398 Місяць тому +1

      @@Triedsigh exactly.

  • @akio-doesnt-exist_
    @akio-doesnt-exist_ Місяць тому

    While this video might not have the best points + idk if I should take seriously or not.
    This is giving a lot of au and fanfic ideas rn fr :3

  • @Walterskidsaccount
    @Walterskidsaccount Місяць тому +3

    I like ot but it sounds wrong like Seto Kaiba is the hero of yugioh thats not true it's Atem that the real hero but thats a good theroy

  • @leonelcito
    @leonelcito 21 день тому

    bro just completely ignored twilight’s hole character development

  • @threeducksinatrenchcoat
    @threeducksinatrenchcoat Місяць тому

    Okay I can’t tell if this is April Fools or not but I do understand where this is coming from, even though Celestia was the one shoving Twighlight into the pedestal in the first place (Twighlight wanted to gain power through, well, power and intelligence, not to be some magical leader, but Celestia probably inspired the ambition to become a political leader. After all, Celestia can do no wrong in Twighlight’s eyes).
    But there’s one thing that always bothered me. I’m autistic, so I often find weird patterns in shows that throws me off sometimes. So, celestial bodies used as cutie marks and names often symbolize strong magical capabilities.
    Starswirl: stars and moons
    Celestia: a sun
    Luna: moon
    Twighlight: stars
    Sunset: sun
    Starlight: stars
    Sunburst: sun and stars
    Sunny: stars
    The only exceptions are Cadence and Flurry, both alicorns, but not associated with a lot of the drama over in Caterlot and Ponyville. They have the Crystal Heart as their main source of power, not alicorns, so it makes sense that they would receive around the Crystal Heart than any celestial body motifs. We also see that some of the only problems surrounding Twighlight and her friends that can’t be traced back to Celestia is in the Crystal Empire.
    There’s also underlying connection with color schemes and the character’s specific motifs.
    First off is Celestia. Her cutie mark is a sun, and her first pupil that we can assume she believed would be good for the throne is Sunset Shimmer, AKA the only pony in the line up with ONLY a sun cutie mark. She also has a warm color palette, while Celestia’s colors are warmed by the warm pale color of her mane and hair, but the blue and green colors could represent being both the sun and moon for 10,000 years. Sunset was intelligent and clever, but had a big hunger for power, much like Twighlight. See ditches Equestria when Celestia realizes her experiment for a new alicorn is kind of blowing up in her face.
    But at the same time, Celestia is also finding a replacement for Luna, her corrupted sister she banished to the moon. Then here comes clever little Twighlight, slightly younger but no less powerful than Sunset, and she has cool tones, just like Luna. Twighlight was brought over as Celestia’s successor when Sunset ditched. As a result, she is purple with pink stripes in her mane and tail, a nod to being originally a cool tone character but being used for a warm-toned character’s purpose.
    Then I realize things get thrown off. Starlight is a cool colored pony with a star motif, and she and Twighlight look like they could be siblings, except Starlight’s streaks are blue, more on Luna’s side than Celestia’s side. Starlight could EASILY be the next Luna. She has the power. She has the drive. But she was a threat to total power for Twighlight, so she was knocked down a few pegs.
    Now for Sunburst. He obviously takes after Starswirl, but instead of blue and gray he’s blue and orange, with a sun cutie mark. He and Starlight are close, and frankly Sunburst could pass as a relative of Sunset with his color palette. So Sunburst could easily be the replacement Celestia to Starlight’s Luna. However he dresses like Starswirl, leaving him open to being both, since he’s a dude I guess, which I find odd. Prince Leon was shown as an alicorn in a French magazine, but he looks EXACTLY like Prince Blue Blood, same colors, cutie marks, freaking BOWTIE…
    The only thing causing a linchpin in this is Twighlight and Sunset. Celestia wanted new rulers, but accidentally created egotistical dictators (Sunset is getting better tho) who want to rule Equestria. Sunset is gone, which leaves Twighlight in complete power, kind of like an opposite Nightmare Moon situation where Sunset leaves willingly instead of being banished. Then Twighlight is left to beat Starlight into the ground, and keep her power, while Starlight and Sunburst do the whole School of Friendship, which kinda sounds like a place to tell kids lies about history. It’s written by the winners, after all. That is to say that this video proves Twighlight is the villain.
    So what about Sunny? The new show is very confusing, and Sunny is the only alicorn/pony with a celestial cutie mark and name, unless I’m missing someone. It connects to G4 with Spike, Twighlight, and the animated opening of the movie all being cannon. Opaline LITERALLY has an alicorn themed cutie mark, so she’s not the moon replacement, so where is Sunny’s opposite? Stars are used consistently to show an ability to be put into a Sun and Moon position. Starswirl and Sunburst wear stars despite clear sun and moon color scheme. Twighlight is originally the moon but is put into both a sun and moon position, with Starlight being able to be booth sun and moon just like Sunburst, sort of like a yin and yang. Does this mean that Sunny is not going to have a rival in the political power department? She’s obviously sun-coded, but she has stars in her name and cutie mark.

  • @Horse_of_Babylon
    @Horse_of_Babylon 27 днів тому

    You had a point until Starlight.

  • @Jenique682
    @Jenique682 4 дні тому

    She didn't know

  • @tylerfish2701
    @tylerfish2701 Місяць тому

    Everything you just said is why I stopped giving a crap about this show after the last season.....
    ......at all.

  • @SBaby
    @SBaby 29 днів тому

    Why do I get the feeling that this is the same guy that created the Comatose Ash Theory? The reason Celestia made Twilight a Princess is because she had a vision that this would be a necessary action in order to save Equestria. If Twilight was really a villain, Celestia's visions would have warned her about it. People like to conveniently overlook this.

  • @elivanto1673
    @elivanto1673 Місяць тому +4

    Make Equestria Great Again?

  • @JeremyFritcher
    @JeremyFritcher Місяць тому +2

    Maybe.

  • @reneedittmer9625
    @reneedittmer9625 5 днів тому

    Honestly, I think Starlight(is that her name?) should have been ruler or sm. Hold on, why isn't Luna supposed to be the next heir, though? Shes literally Celestias bloodline. I understand that Luna is basically the "Goddess of night/the moon" but I honestly don't understand why Luna isn't the next ruler. She doesn't even have a kingdom she rules over as far as Im aware of(correct me if Im wrong, I only just started watching MLP) so shouldn't Luna be the ruler of Equestria? Or do the MLP ponies not work that way? I think Twilight wouldn't serve good as a ruler anyway, she likes control way too much and always thinks everything has to have a "rank" or some kind of order even if its wrong. Honestly, Id be okay with Luna being the ruler of Equestria but I guess not since shes the ruler of the moon which is perceived as "bad and scary" or "not as important as the sun or as magic" -_-
    Also, as much as I don't want to admit this Twilight definitely does have narcissistic and OCD traits.
    Edit: Hold up, I just found out that this was an April fools video?? Man, this is awkward lol
    But Im still curious on why Luna isn't the next ruler when shes Celestias bloodline 🤨

  • @Midnight_Afton645
    @Midnight_Afton645 Місяць тому

    8:32 would you believe me if i told you when I first watched this movie (7 years old and a die-hard MLP fan) this O N E quote made the excitement drain from my body in an instant. In terms of today I'm conflicted with this quote, On one hand I still hate the scene but on the other I love the delivery of the line.

  • @Geotikid
    @Geotikid Місяць тому

    ik this is april fools joke but god it ate

  • @creativemeblue645
    @creativemeblue645 20 днів тому

    Girl WHAT, you act like we (in real life) don't live in a sort of dystopian world and in mlp friendship brings order and doesn't allow something to ruin the world and once Twilight has gone it goes back to being how it was but a lot worse how can you just say that someone that has stopped the world from ending with her friends is a power hungry brat??!! She is also just the embodiment of friendship and magic THATS why she is the main character and then ends up ruling Equestria because once Celestia and Luna go whose taking care???!

  • @rudylycan626
    @rudylycan626 17 днів тому

    I'm now seeing twilight in a different light now .... She's my least favorite like she making prefer zephyr more than her

  • @ritchelmarieadel8544
    @ritchelmarieadel8544 Місяць тому +1

    Well

  • @dennisjansson6239
    @dennisjansson6239 Місяць тому

    Yeah i dont think Twilight deserves to be a princess or a leader or her wings, since her friends do MOST of the work. She started great but she became a jerk, ESPECIALLY when she became a winged princess. Twilight is the shows own Brian Griffin, BOTH started good but later on became awful!

  • @austinkremer2107
    @austinkremer2107 Місяць тому +3

    Twilight is A Villain 7:44

  • @Tristen-Clan
    @Tristen-Clan Місяць тому +1

    Hey everyone @Gumball2 is actually being a selfish because this person is ruining the show because hasn't anyone ever been invited to a party but you have to decline because of a job or something if yes, @Gumball2 says if you decline to go to a party it means you are selfish if you decline. Now he's blaming everything on Twilight sparkle because starlight glimmer was forcing everyone to be friends so now inmange would you like to be froce to be friends always smiling by someone or make friends your friends if yes @Gumball2 is going to froce you to do it their Way not your way.
    So now chrysalis the chainring she'll take the love make other's weeker them her or others, cozy glow drains magic so no pony's can use magic or anything like levitation and teleportation for unicorn and alicorn so she goes to the top.
    Good luck with getting yourself out of it @Gumball2 because your selfish running everything 😡💢

  • @Villanellexvibess
    @Villanellexvibess Місяць тому +5

    i think starlight should of been turned into an alicorn

  • @Tristen-Clan
    @Tristen-Clan Місяць тому +1

    @Gumball2 I think you just hate Twilight sparkle, because put it in real life you get invited to a part but I said no I have a go do a job or something like that wouldn't that make you selfish as well too.
    Don't forget your friends or so are still on something like for example say you are on Xbox one but you go straight to the other Xbox Series X or Xbox Series S you go go that would make you selfish.
    Now you're making and calling her a murder or whatever just to ruin a show that's being selfish then you can ever counter with anyone trying defend you.
    I want you to have a video of you saying how sorry you are but I know for the fact I know your not going to do it because your selfish.

    • @keinimaris
      @keinimaris 5 днів тому

      Hello umm the guy here is just putting up a theory, and this is a april fools video so yeah if you didn't want to ruin the show for you i don't mean to be rude but maybye don't watch the video, also just in case you don't know what a theory is please Google it up, but yeah just don't take this video seriously and also if he does hate her he is entiteled to it's just his opinion , just look at it as just a new perpestive , sorry for my grammar but yeah good day ,in conclusion he is just sharing his theory or opinion.But yeah i agree i don't thibk twilight is a manipulator she is just not perfect tho this video is very convincing

    • @Tristen-Clan
      @Tristen-Clan 5 днів тому

      @@keinimaris how much money did they pay you to help them out to make them look nice and friendly? 50,000 k or more plus I actually wanted them to say it themselves no one else because it's makes them more guilty and they are hiding something and I won't stop until I found out and Ill even go back to study the voice of this person.

    • @keinimaris
      @keinimaris 5 днів тому

      @@Tristen-Clan uhh? You know what never mind there's really nothing stopping you from taking this seriously

    • @keinimaris
      @keinimaris 5 днів тому

      @@Tristen-Clan wait are you trolling?XD also if you arent please dont it's an invasion of privacy it's not good to invade people's privacy

    • @Tristen-Clan
      @Tristen-Clan 5 днів тому +1

      @@keinimaris Yes I'm joking around, but they should have at least should have said at the end of the video it's their own option, but they'd be my own opinion but eh 😂💜

  • @nicepeeva1048
    @nicepeeva1048 5 місяців тому +2

    Twilight sparkle is not villiant.

  • @ingalilsharkweb4815
    @ingalilsharkweb4815 Місяць тому

    spike is annyong

    • @aaazartiscool
      @aaazartiscool Місяць тому

      Really? I mean hes a kid technically? So ya i suppose