5 Times EVERYONE Should Take Collagen Protein (better sleep, skin, and muscle)
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Timestamps ⏱
0:00 - Intro - 5 Best Times to Use Collagen for Different Benefits
0:57 - Before Your Workout
2:40 - Before Going to Bed
4:26 - Use Code THOMAS20 for 20% off BUBS Naturals' Collagen!
6:23 - Aging & Digestion
7:44 - At the end of a Fast
8:55 - Alongside Meals
10:11 - Increasing Your Intake as You Age
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I add collagen & ACV to lemon & ginger tea. I call it my vinegar skin tea, surprisingly nobody else seems interested...
Have you noticed any benefits from the collagen.
I could be wrong but I thought peptides and collagen are destroyed by anything acidic. That’s why it’s not that viable to take it orally.
Yeah it sounds 🤮
Sounds gross. Take them separately
Not interested..
Its actually fine. The collagen is unflavoured with no taste. ACV will just make the tea a bit stronger on the throat. But i guess its not a good thing to have ACV as a tea cause it can erode tooth enamel
I would substitute 20-30% of the collagen with glycine or add glycine. Glycine also has a sweet taste and goes well with coffee
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 Thanks for this Thomas!!!! This was soooooo helpful as I wasn't sure if while doing IF if collagen should be taken during eating or fasting. I got it now!!!
I absolutely love the recap at the end, now I don't have to bounce between each one to refresh my memory!
Outstanding video, Thomas‼️An orthopedist prescribed me collagen 10 years ago, but a good few nutritionists put me off eating it claiming you can't produce collagen out of collagen. Wish I'd listened to the doctor now that I have stage 4 knee collagen loss. I've learnt that type 1 collagen may prevent synovitis and type 2 collagen, which is the one found in human cartilage, triggers an immune system response that stimulates our chondrocytes to produce more collagen. So, the nutritionists were right about its absorption but dead wrong about the results.
When to take supplements, essential oils, vitamins, etc? I appreciate this vid & hope you do more similar. Thanks!
You have to combine it with vitamin C for full absorption.
Great content that not many people are aware of ! Thank you Thomas 🙏
Wow this is amazing info thanks Thomas!
Great video! I have been wondering about this very thing. So many benefits to collagen. I’ve been taking it before bed, and it really has helped my sleep. And, overall health.
I started using 10-15g of glutamine daily and the results were great. Started about 2 years ago.
Less inflammation, bloating and abdominal discomfort within a week or so of starting and overall body inflammation also notably reduced.
Keep that scaffold strong.
So you measured the inflammation before intake, and after?
How are you measuring the inflammation i your body? What kind of test is it?
Yes, i started too and detected fibromyxoma and had surgery with 3cm scar on my upper arm, no, but thanks, don't want to take any shit related to my skin or cartridges anymore.
Do I need to load it at the start of my journey
@@xenofontzaras2741 I simply record my data and personal observations using 10 point scales for certain issues like how long after I wake up are certain aches present, what walking pace can I reach before discomfort and if I am at jiu jitsu it's a matter of the previous and a few other but it's all just N=1 data. I record my food and supplement intakes for a minimum of 30 days and sometimes will change out items and record the results be it positive or negative. I use a few apps to track it all and in the end it all comes down to my own personal subjective observations.
@@stevejimenez6363 no. It's to help rebuild a damaged or leaky gut as you progress there may be times where the changes in your gut microbiome will be enough of a change that the glutamine supplementation can help rebuild that gut layer in conjunction with go probiotic intake as well.
All just personal experience so grain of salt stuff.
So di and tri- peptides are transported by PEP(number) transporters in the gut, but vitamin C is pretty crucial, but that will also act as a powerful antioxidant and minimizes training induced oxidative stress in the muscles inhibiting hypertrophy, so what is more important?
Ty!! I’m going to honor Bub and my own body and use this brand of collagen
Hi,
Great channel with some really great info.
Question if I may? I take creatine about 30-45 minutes before my workout, do you think it would interfere with the collagen if I took collagen before like you sugguest?
Thanks in advance
TY for this, just been wondering when is the best times to intake, instead of just several times thouhgout the day.
Thomas, If you did a video on what you do on your non-fasting days, that would be great. Like, your eating, working out schedules and anything else, that would be a great watch :) thanks for everything.
GTFO spam sh*t
have to stop you on the coffee part. make sure its decaf! caffeine blocks collagen formation. also, take 250 mg vitamin C with collagen, as it wont synthesize without it.
Common sense does help thanks brother 💙
Hello Thomas, what is the difference between triglycerides from saturated fats and from carbs if there is any? Are the chains different in length?
Could you do a video on keto bread/tortillas?...is there any way to enjoy a keto friendly sandwich or taco that's now a lettuce wrap? I started coming across some keto breads and such so wanted to know your opinion.
I’ve always wondered about this so thank you for this!
Ordered this because collagen is amazing addition to have and I needed pure one 😊
Nice ill start adding 10g collagen with my 5g glycine before bed.. ofc stacking it with my 400mg magnesium biglycinate, 25mg zinc, ashwagandha, and sometimes mag citrate on those days i need it for the morning. As with another comment, i do also need to take my glutamine. i slightly rmbr ur other vid on it. awesome stuff keep it up man. looking healthy nd strong bro!
Always great information ‼️💖🙋♀️🇨🇱
Amazing video🎉🎉
I started taking Great Lakes collagen powder in the morning to alleviate my acid reflux. It’s worked very well, better than any other natural supplement. I also deal with insomnia so I’ll try it at night too.
Thanks for the plug!
Glycin is great before bed, it makes me tired and you sleep better. When I started taking glycin I had lucid dreams.
I just put a couple scoops of unflavored collagen powder in my black coffee. Its been in my cupboard forever so i thought I'd try it and it tastes pretty good and mixed instantly in the hot liquid. I thought it would have been nasty. Been missing out for a long time. I'm dairy free so i miss out on a lot of protein supplementation but this is something i can have for sure. I miss the results of whey but its really bad for my skin and digestion. Collagen though... this will have the opposite effect on me.
This makes sense but not applicable for faster. If you fast it's not possible to take collagen before bedtime as it's high in protein, 19 g per serving and 70 calories. I noticed when taking collagen peptides at late dinner (8pm) it makes me sleepy around 10 and knock me off to 💤💤💤at 11 deeply till the morning. I do bone broth daily before trying the collagen powder peptides powder . My homemade broth made out from pasture raised grassfed shank, oxtails, chicken feet, The results are not same as the powder form that has faster results in no time
Does all this apply to fish collagen or is it strictly for bovine collagen? Thx!
Collagen protein or great lakes gelatin powder? Which one?
I buy the vital protein bone broth powder from i herb what do you think of it is it good?
Does canned sockeye salmon have collagen because of bones and skin? Sardines?
Thanks very much for this information but you forgot to mention that collagen doesn’t work without vitamin c at least 1g complex
What is collagen made of and how is it made?
To cut down cost, can one of those doses be plain gelatin? Does that work?
Well, these are nice videos, but a bit confusing: I another video from you, where you were talking about fasting, you suggested periods of fasting with rage of 20 hours and even more, for at least two days in the week (correct me if I am wrong)
Most of what I have read about fasting are strong suggesting to not eat at evening / chronobiology)
So taking collage before going to bed, will break down the fasting, and for that the autophagic process, right? And also disturb the sleep ?
What are your thoughts o this item?
Hi Thomas, is there any information on collagen from seafood...fish bone , shrimp shells, crab shells? Thanks for this valuable information.❤
I recall reading that glucosamine from shellfish sources is less bioavailable for humans than land-animals sources, I eat whole long/slow cooked chickens to get both glucosamine (yes eat the bones) and collagen from the skin and connective tissues.
Anyone have an opinion on Colostrum powder supplementation?
How come when taking it in powder form in shakes you'll use about 10 g daily but when buying in tablet form you only need about 500-2000 mg daily?
I've read that all studies done on collagen has been done on minimum 8 g to have any results at all.
Can you do a video on the optimal time to take creatine?
He did. It’s after you work out.
Hi Thomas, new subscriber here. I was wondering if there are any vegan collagen products which you would recommend.
In another video, Thomas recommended son warrior collagen, peptides
No jumping going on here we th a sensitive hip, should I still take it before workout?
Do collagen peptides break a fast? I workout in the morning, but that’s usually in the middle of my fast. Good to know about the sleep benefits though. I can definitely make it the last thing I consume before bed.
Yes, collagen peptides break a fast. That's why he recommended them at the end of a fast.
@@DauphinPourpre I thought so. Wishful thinking. I usually take them at the end of my fast, but only exercise in the morning, mid-fast. I guess cant have it both ways.
Anything that brings calories breaks a fast
@@DauphinPourpre he said he takes it at bedtime with yogurt for protein
They have calories. So if your technical don't want vwlories during a fast then yeah they break your fast. 2 scoops is 70 calories.
Is there any collagen in whey protein?
Is there any difference between colagen from beef and from fish sources?
Knox gelatin is an easier absorbed form of collagen.
What is the best protein powder for diabetic
I’m doing fasting. I workout during my fast. So I take my collagen with my coffee and mct oil when I break my fast. So I can only do a few of the things mentioned if it’s a non fast day. Is this ok?
Mixing collagen with yogurt doesn't add any carbs (3:38) makes no sense. Even plain yogurt has carbs.
WAIT! I've had IBS my whole life! My doctors have said it's related to my spina bifida birth defect. Can collagen peptides help this? For real? I do know that bone broth helps.
How would taking collagen before exercise, and bed effect the benefits of intermittent fasting? Wouldn't the protein raise blood sugar, and stop autophagy?
he explained that right after the first minute started
Protein has calories, and about 10 calories or more certainly breaks autophagy and fasting. If you workout fasted, just take collagen later. Keep in mind IF/fasting has it's benefits, but balance it with other beneficial things like collagen and healthy foods.
Must say, that DJI mic is cutting edge tech. Thomas is cutting edge in all domains, love the content head to toe
CCP is probably spying through it.
FYI: DJI is the PLA.
Meh i hear too much echo off his environment. I'd say it sounds bright and needs the gain turned down just a tad
I know right lol, it sounded bad. Moreso than other times. And then some guy posts this is cutting edge lol.
Absolutely hooked to your channel & priceless information
Any way to reverse trabeculation of bladder wall(5mm-6mm), anything, any ray of hope?
Androgen receptor sensitivity please
Oh good. So I can have my green tea with collagen before I workout.
I have already been through different brands of collagen peptides, but one thing that always stays is the weird "wet cow" taste, I kind of remember is what a cow smells like and that is was collagen tastes for me. Or one of those Dog bones, some dog owners buy their dogs to knaw on I think they are also made of cow skin. If this smell could be removed and the powder would be absolutely tasteless, that'd be great!
I let my coffee cool down just a little and add collagen and Jordan's keto only skinny mix along with half n Half. Can't tell the collagen is in there that way.
@@MichelleGetsReal ah im stupid, I usually drink black coffee but of course in some milky coffee the little taste would go unnoticed. Good Idea!
Marine Collagen
How about taking Whey protein mixed with Collagen in the morning as a breakfast?
Good morning, yesterday I had a debate with my physiotherapist friend about collagen and whey protein powder, he tried to tell me they are pretty much the same collagen is just more expensive. I just laughed. I've been taking my collagen later in the afternoon' I take Vital Proteins collagen, so by the time it is absorbed I'm ready for sleep. I take my vit d k2 later in the afternoon also. My sleep has improved big time.
I used to take vital proteins but I read they tested high for heavy metals. Very sad theirs was my fav
Thanks brother.
How much lysine should we take to counter act the Arginine in the collagen? How much lysine would be needed if we get herpes mouth sores and take 40 grams of collagen? I get breakouts from much smaller doses.
Bubs does not have Type 2 for joints? Always thought you need Type 2 for joints so how does this get advertised for joints if it’s only Type 1 & 3 only?
I've heard that taking collagen with caffeine is not a good idea - anyone have any thoughts? Thanks.
im gonna try collagen in my smothie soon
Nice. I've been adding collagen to my protein shake before my workout. Mostly to boost my protein intake.
Yup. I've been adding collagen to my shake for a couple years.
I started taking collagen, and following a medical check up several months after my doctor told me I was developing kidney stones and that was probably why. If you are not predisposed to them you will probably be ok, but I would suggest getting a scan after several months.
@@juniorsanchez7441 it makes no difference
LOL, just had a shake with collagen. Only a couple hours ago I slipped in the snow and my knee got a bit hyperextended. I'm sure it will be fine, but it made me think of it, and I've also been nursing a rotator cuff injury. Should I do some jumping jacks or something now? 🤣
Most stuff I've read is that collagen is basically just cheap protein, your body has no way of distinguishing collagen from any other source of protein and treats it the same, so you're not really replenishing collagen stores or joint health, you're just supplementing with a protein powder, but one that doesn't have as complete an amino acid profile as more common protein sources. In fact the study referenced in this video concluded "These data suggest that using leucine-rich whey protein can activate mTORC1 within sinews and increase collagen synthesis. ...other than leucine-rich protein, no nutritional interventions have been shown to have an effect on sinew in humans." The bit about taking gelatin prior to a workout to increase collagen was based on in vitro models and is a bit speculative. I'd like to see studies that compare collagen production post-workout with collagen supplementation vs whey.
So it's not worth it?
Glad I'm not the only one here questioning this. Thomas conveniently left any mention of this out. This video is just a sales pitch. This is def far from the unbiased complete info he used to provide. I'm 100% sure Thomas is aware of this collagen breakdown and whether this effect is true or not he left it out completely. I really just wanted him to address what the OP mentioned here and I have to assume Thomas heard about it but left it out. And if what OP mentions is not the case then debunking it only helps sell more products. So leaving it out must have been because its true.
I'm starting to get put off from his videos. There's better sources of information out there that are not so biased. That don't promote a product, like he's doing videos the other way round now.
@@NofirstnameNolastname can you share better youtubers to get unbias information?
@@Draziell Andrew Huberman and dr eric berg. Berg has been around for ages and still provides a full unbiased picture on things. And so does Huberman.
Its not that I don't still watch Thomas's videos either but it just feels different nowadays. He might refer to studies but I think its hard to pump out videos every day and still be able to cover all your bases.
Basically those guys and Thomas's channel is all I need for info on everything. But I find myself less drawn to this channel as times goes on.
The other channel from Huberman does promote athletic greens and inside tracker but thats the ONLY thing he promotes in every video. And he's not building videos around a product like Thomas is doing literally all the time now. And the excuse for doing this is that he can't keep his content free unless we all buy Bubs collagen supplements lol.
Edit* Actually thinking about it thomas mostly does promote 1 thing as well which is thrive market. And whichever subject he wants to make a video on there's probably a long line of brands that want him to promote their stuff.
My naturopath is all about nutrition through food - she doesn't push supplements at all. The one exception she makes is encouraging long-term use of collagen supplements during the aging process. The key is likely finding a trusted brand with a quality product. I suspect the exception is due to the impact on gut health. When the gut is healed, the body can better absorb the nutrients in food.
Would Bub's collagen good for a Vegan individual?
how about liquid collagen?
Would it be alright to split up my servings? Like a scoop before workout, scoop before bed? Or something similar to this where you take part of the serving size at different times throughout the day? Or does it all need to be taken at once for full effect? Thanks Thomas
I would actually think that it would be much better to consume it throughout the day, so it’s more of a constant flow of nutrients 🤔 Interested in hearing other opinions tho
just about all nutrients are better taken throughout the day, simply due to less strain on kidneys, liver. Less toxicity effects from overdosing, less digestive issues, and if you take something that blocks a specific nutrients absorption, than its not all wasted as you'll get other portion later.
I’ve been taking it in the morning about and hour or two before going to gym and I add 5 grams of leucine to it.
I'm am just learning about leucine. I will start adding a few grams to my collagen and NMN shops soon. Did you notice a difference after adding leucine?
Thomas, I kept waiting for a few bits of important information. But it didn't come. 1 question to me is which forms of collagen do we take? Question 2, it's said that collagen supplements are useless and fall apart in the stomach acid and break down into other amino acids. To me that seems a bit weird because if that destroyed it to a degree that makes it useless then whats the point of meat and broth etc. Or is food based a diff breakdown and form of collagen? This story also goes for probiotics but if that was true we'd all be sterile and none of the bacteria from food would survive either.
Without providing some more info about types of collagen forms etc this video to me comes across as just an advertisement wrapped up in some mention of benefits. Basically all I know now is I should buy bubs. And sure ads pays the bills I get that but if it gets in the way of providing all the information then you are no longer unbiased and I feel you could have def provided more info here.
I noticed this trend for a while in your videos and it's a shame. That's just my opinion and experience so don't bite my head off ;)
But yeah I really want to know the deal with collagen breakdown is it nonsense or is supplementing with it worth it.
I was waiting for the same thing. It’s type 2 collagen that is effective for joint health and types 1 and 4 for skin, nails, and hair but he mentioned none of that. The collagen peptide supplements themselves often don’t mention which types are in them.
so how many times a day can we take it?
Thank You…. I’m going to start Creatine Citronate (today)…… CAN I mix Collagen with Creatine? ??
No
One thing I'm wondering about is if the amino acid profile of pork rinds counts towards this...? Seems fairly similar to bone broth from what I can find on google. I cook my dinner in about 1.5 cups of bone broth, that plus snacking on a few servings of baked pork rinds during the day, gets me up to about 40g of protein from this kind of stuff.
I guess one difference is that pork rinds never become gelatin, not sure how important that is though. All I can find on that topic is that gelatin takes a bit longer to digest, and therefore is a bit better for your GI lining. But it's hard to know the truth of things you found randomly on google.
Hi Thomas. If I were to take 40 g of collagen per day would I count that towards 150 g of protein I consume per day? It sounds to me like taking collagen is also a very low calorie way to increase your protein macros? Please let me know.
Ben
@Pushkin Nagpure thanks so much for the clarification Pushkin and for taking the time to explain the fact that collagen is an incomplete protein. I appreciate it.
Ben
What the word on collagen and cancer?
Can someone clarify something for me, please. Doesn't the body just break down collagen into its constituent amino acids?
Is there enough glycine in collagen supplements or do I need to bolster my collagen with more glycine?
You need only Glycine. Collagen is worthless for your body
Soups, eat soups cooked with meat and bones, Chicken SOUP that jells is the perfect cheap an easy trick!🍲🍲🍗🍗🐔🐔🐄🐄
Chew the bones for glucosamine boost.
@@SpamMouse it's not same as collagen peptides powder that gives you quick results, per my experience
@@Hippy2021 Is it cheap? No
Collagen work better if you put it in cold drinks
I drink Beef Bone Broth every day. Collagen, Keto and its like drinking gravy, OH YEAH !
Collagen works pretty good with vitamin C
never thought about using pre-workout.... hmmm
I typically take it when I break my fast..but can't take much at all because it interferes with my menstrual cycles (actually delay or stop it from happening). I thought that was odd till I found a whole forum of women with the same issue (ie if you have normal periods, it can really shorten them or make them worse, but if you have abnormal periods, it can help to improve them and get rid of dysmenorrhea). The really odd thing is that there's 0 studies on this so I still am unsure of the MOA and can only surmise.
Thats interesting but it depends on what exactly is being activated/not activated by taking collegen ? Or whether there is something else inside the collagen tooo
@@AS-hb2hb theres nothing else in the collagen. It's collagen peptides - these are mini chains of amino acids ie glycine, proline, and hydroxyproline and these peptides can stimulate receptors all over your body
What is the best collagen supplement? Help! Please
Whole food sources from natural land animals.
Swedish supplements collagen
Sometimes it's a little spooky how you do a video on just what I'm looking for!
I know right, it's so funny to me.❤🙏🏽
Is it safe to consume 4 scopes a day?
I just ordered vegan collagen products from Sun Warrior based on a video you had 3-4 years ago. Do you still support this collagen product as well or is this an update to that? Thank you 🙏🏼
Vegan collagen is an oxymoron
Go animal based, better absorption.
Would homemade grass fed/finished bone broth/stock work as well?
Ov course !
And how about insulin spikes? Dr. Berg talks a lot about protein powders spiking insulin. It can lead to insulin resistance and then diabetes. He recommends having protein with some fats.
berg gets a lot wrong. protein powder is not going to give you insulin resistance; it's protein, you need it. just have it with a meal if you are that concerned.
Yeah this is an old concept that people like Berg keep regurgitating.
Maybe if the protein has a lot of sugar It
The point he (and others make) is the source of the protein, those that buy over-priced powders suffer this issue (soy) while those of us that choose nature will eat an egg. But if you are active that will counter the insulin in your system.
Dr berg is great. Very knowledgeable
I’ve been doing it wrong. I’ve been adding it to my post-workout shake.
So we’re not supposed mixed them together because I have a few days drinking collagen and I just bought pre-workout and I was wondering if I could drink them together or put collagen in my pre workout
I'm turning 42 and I've been taking more collagen. It seeems to help with my overall health. 😊 it's quite pricey though 😅
I usually get it when it's on sale at Costco.
I bought a 3 month supply of native path collagen for about $20 a 25 serving container.
I make bone broth every week, that’s cheap
Be careful if you are predisposed to developing kidney stones. If you aren't, then no worries
@@lydiasharpin6566 that's a good idea! Thanks
So are you saying take collagen before I eat a meal. I just started taking collagen because IFBB Pro bodybuilder Nick Walker was taking it. I just take 1 tablet before going to the gym. I wait 90 minutes before going to the gym to let my meal digest. I use Spring Valley Collagen. It has 1000 mg of collagen per tablet. The type collagen it has is type 1 and 3 with vitamin C. Like I said I just started taking collagen.
How come when taking it in powder form in shakes you'll use about 10-20 grams daily but when buying in tablet form you only need about 500-2000 mg daily?
I've read that all studies done on collagen has been done on minimum 8 grams to have any results at all 🤷
I have noticed ALL your videos are actually you promoting a product which makes me wonder about how genuine your posts really are. Your posts are advertising which I presume you are getting paid for so therefore its obvious you will do or say anything to promote the brand.How about some unbiased and unpromoted genuine posts like others do and that way your audience can decide which brand to purchase.
Yeap exactly what I think as well. There's a certain lack of information here as well that prevents us from making our own decision.
And it's clear this is intentional. He knows a lot more about collagen but he's leaving it out.
Is collagen cause breast cancer
@Thomas DeLauer thanks for the great video. Sure glycine helps sleeping 😴
Will collagen break my fast if I workout first thing in the morning?
Yes, protein breaks a fast.
This infomercial is brought to you by Bubs.
The Bubs Collagen is most likely ok, but I did miss a definition on Type 2 Collagen versus what was said. Bubs is Type 1 & 3. My understanding is that Collagen Type II is the one to opt for for joints?
90% of our body's collagen is made of type 1 so that's probably why.
Also you mentioned the brain and collagen I was curious about teeth gums ECT oh, and I didn't know that collagen would really help out with any muscle building I thought it was all whey protein thanks