Whales of Kaimere: The Killer Whales
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Orcinus orca, or the killer whale, is the top predator of Earth's oceans today. In Kaimere, this genus has three species, but none enjoy the unchallenged dominance of orcas on Earth. Today we will explore the evolutionary history of Orcinus on Kaimere, how they integrated into Kaimere's marine ecology, and the cultural impact on the peoples of the known world and beyond!
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Like on Earth, orcas (Gaqrin/normal modern orca and Moqrin) are among the most succesfull animals and among the apex predators of the oceans !
They are apex predators like on earth but, however, unlike on earth, not the "Apex of the Apex" and being also as the same time occasionals preys for the more larger aquatic carnivores species.
Such the Mosasaurid, like the Motomazor, the Elamosaurid, like the Zanitel, or other bigger Whales, like the Grandfather Whale (a progeny's specie of the Acrophyseter). These later being the true apex of the apex predators of the oceans at the ultimate top of the food chain.
But niche partition allow the orcas to avoid to be hunted and outcompeted by these creatures, and thank to their high flexibility alimentation and behavior, to have great success on Kaimere !
Wow! It’s really interesting how orcas aren’t really fully adapted to eating marine mammals and only could do so because they were already large. Just goes to show how random evolution is.
Orcinus is such an adaptable genius and they are quickly becoming some of my favorite animals in Kaimere! I am so unbelievably excited for the next anthology!
The concept of a highly intelligent cetacean using tools (either man-made or of their own creation) is a concept that I have also played with my own speculative evolution project. Having flexible lips and a tongue with incredible dexterity has allowed them to build their own human like “empire”. Granted with relatively simple technology. The concept of an animal living a completely different lifestyle than ours converging on apelike ingenuity it’s a really cool concept to me.
Heck yeah! I love the idea of them not trying to oust or fight the giant reptiles and sperm whales at their own game but competing from an angle of ingenuity and tactics! They're still prey and not apex predators, but have definitely made a name for themselves in the wild cast of Kaimere!
Finally! The Killer Whale! The one predatory whale that can adapt in any contest! Also, as much as I want to buy your books... I don't know when or if I can afford it. Goliath's story potential is amazingly high, so... Any story of yours coming up with an animal protagonist?
Got one planned to also feature a kurajaku, one with a marine sloth, and one with a kraken. This anthology will be aquatic themed, but future anthologies will also have animal protagonists on land. I'm probably going to post a couple online for free since so many of the people who have expressed an interest but don't live in a place with easy access to bookstores.
@@TalesofKaimere Thank you a million times my friend. Well, most of the world went too cyber in Everything but what it does matters the most. Anyways, let's just say that books are currently the very last thing most humans view as a good thing to buy, which I absolutely disagree. Books are the one thing that's always waiting for us, where our imagination had started...
Note : in the previous"Whales of Kaimere " sub-serie videos, the one about the Toothed Whales. The Qrin was classified as a False Killer Whale, but Keenan decide to revise his classification as a member of the Orcinus genus, being a true Killer Whale know.
In Kaimere univers canon lore, we will said that is a recent change by thé kaimeran and the Assembly themselves after a more serious and deep study (like for the Titan Crow and Banshee Gull Pterosaurs who were Azdarchid and are now Tapejarid who converged into a Azdarchid shape).
There always true False Killer Whales species on Kaimere, but they will maybe not be covered at all since False Killer Whales have the same shape, behavior and niche that the Qrin.
So despite not being a true False Killer Whales but a true Orca instead, the Qrin give a pretty good view on how the False Killer Whales do, live and are on Kaimere oceans.
In addition, the False Killer Whales are the closest cetacean species to thé True Killer Whales orcas. So, in final, the change isn't so impactful.
Great episode, love how the orcas got to meet their ancestors!
I had an idea, a group of the polar blackfish could have survived in the inland sea by getting slightly smaller and increasing their white patches until they have no black spots to better blend in with the sand. Just an idea.
That's a good idea! Eventually they would be outcompeted by the much more genetically diverse orcas, but I think that's a very sensible adaptation to hold on, and might be a few relics here and there!
Thanks! Can't wait till the next video!
They could maybe start tales of "ghost orcas" or something
Imagine Peter Jackson turning the Keenan Taylor's Tales of Kaimere in to an real actual movie . Oooh yeah , that would be so epicly awesome to see in cinema . I think that Keenan Taylor would have 10 Oscars and one Nobel Prize for Literature . And I personaly belive that Keenan Taylor is new J.R.R.Tolkien of 21st Century .
Thank you so much! Warms my heart to hear!
@@TalesofKaimere You are welcome
@@TalesofKaimere Did the J.R.R. TOLKIEN influenced on you ? Did you take the inspiration for Tales of Kaimere from reading LOTR and Hobbit ?
@@petarbrkic6404 Absolutely! Tolkein is a huge inspiration and idol of mine.
Great episode! Killer whales always seem to find ways to reach all available areas lol. I'm excited to see more videos (and if i could suggest) especially those that focus/explore more on the marsupials, apes, non-therian mammals and the other domestic Kaimeran animals! Well, whenever they come out of your choosing. Keep up the work Keenan!
Thanks so much! I have a feeling you're gunna like some of the sponsored episodes lined up for the summer in that case!
@@TalesofKaimere Can you give us a hint about what is comming in the months ahead?
Good job on this one. I really like it that it taught a little about hybrids similar to that of the mule that can't have offspring but are desired for their other traits. It also works because the two are as similar to that as donkeys are to horses.
Yes indeed!
I love the fact that you start to made smaller/mini-stories in parallel of the main ones, and with alsmot only animals or non-human/kaimeran protagonnist, to equilibrate with the main ones who have almost only kaimeran/human characters (because since there others sapient being in this univers, as much use them ina way or another) !
In your facebook account, you clearly said that for know, only "Tempered in Ash and Blood" was (almost) created/made and that you search others ideas or scenarios with Water themes (linked in a way or another to this element).
And you ask us to give ideas you can possibly use.
One man named "Andrew Stanbarger" give you like example to use in another story an Octopus character, stated that "such an alien mindset in a convincing way would be a heck of a challenge".
And you yourself state to him that you like this idea because "that’s an excellent idea! Intelligent enough to be a coherent protagonist but a very different sort of smarts".
And I myself respond that I find to be a good idea, even more than the Moqrin cetacean specie, because all kinds of octopus/squid are present on Kaimere since a more longer time than any kind of cetacean and had all the time to become sapient overtime.
I, me, stated that because, let be all honest about this specific point, in order to be the protagonnist of a story, the characters in question must be sapient themselve (like a human). And if it's not the case, the narration using in the story must be like as in a documentary.
And that Kaimere orcas are too recent arrivals in Kaimere to have sufficiently evolved to obain a human like intelligence level (but that was before knowing that Moqrin are, in fact, sapient more or less, so good for them ! Good candidates too).
So, you can keep this octopus/squid idea just in case ! It's alway a good idea in more !
I'm planning on stories featuring a kurajaku, a marine sloth, and a kraken. The kraken I chose for a similar reason as Andrew suggested!
@@TalesofKaimere When you said "feature", it's as main protagonists characters or as elements of the story the reals protagonists characters will face off ?
Because, any of these species were establish to be sapient.
Otherwise, they can't made good candidates as protagonists for a story, because they are primitive intelligence and not talk (in a language that will be proper to them if there were sapient of course) and/or having reflexions and thoughts on their actions or what they see.
Moqrin and Moqrin/Gaqrin orca hybrid are good candidates to use without problem since they are a sapient cetacean specie (not sapient as the same level than humans/kaimerans, but sapient anyway).
But for the Kurujaku, a marine sloth and a Kraken (thus this later can be made as sapient being since he was never proprely presented), ist way more difficult to use.
Except, of course, if you use a documentary like narrator. With an unseen narrator who depict what the animals do and face off.
Right ?
In you Social accounts, you ask us to give you ideas for others stories for the future Water themed Anthology, since the first of the PoV stories "Tempered in Ash and Blood" is the only one you made so far.
The condition to be whatever but linked to set in reefs, oceans, swamps, and other aquatic habitats.
And that the mains protagonnist being an animal or anything non human (since you clearly said that these stories, these PoV, will concentrate about animals characters).
Some of us, like a man name Andrew Stanbarger, give you the idea to choose an Octopus. Another named Shawn Stanbarger Steketee give like example Otters like protagonnist, or Sean Jackson saying that a Motomazor story based one shoulb be great !
All these ideas and concept are good and all have big potential !
Me, I have a story/idea suggestion too !
- You can made a story who present and use the Dwarf Elephant Chuga specie ! It's maybe a land animal but they live on a discreet island, and they must in a way or another use the beach or the sea since they live in the middle of infinite waters. Plus they have all a sapient intelligence specie, so it's pretty convenient for a good story to begin with. We know really not so much about them since the "Elephants Day Special" video, and it's should be interesting to use them in a way or another, to developt and present their life, their society and their island (how she look).
And see thing like what they eat like food, how they interect with each others, their believes if they have ones, etc... You state they want to remain hidden from everyone for (legitimate) secure reasons. So the story can follow one particular Chuga or his entire tribe who face a possible dangerous event. Like a Kaimeran, Maku or Human which fails on their island after a shipwreck (in a Gulliver's Travels vibe) and they must decide what to do with him.
Or face an Alar megaraptor specimen who arrive on their island and become to represent a danger for them, as you stated that this species is one of their biggest fears. And you can alos include some stuff like one Chuga who dream what there is beyond the sea limits, or another who reconize that their home is both a secure place and a prison in the same time. Anyway, the Chugas have a full of potential that ask only to be use !
- Or You can also use the Kentarim mermaids or the antagonistic Merfolks Milaq or Zhere Kun since they're sapient aquatic creatures and humonculies as the same time ! Why not !?
Orcas of our world are fascinating and terrifying, these ramp up both aspects.
I like the idea of the co-existence of orcas with lyvatans/grandfather and plesiosaurus/zanitel (I hope wrote right its name because I am looking from a smartphone screen 😁). I keep love more and more the marvelous world you created also because is an excellent place to escape expecially on bad days
Thank you so much! Always hope to brighten some days.
For the people who are maybe confuse about having orcas characters like protagonnists in a story, since technically they are animal like ours earth orcas and have technically a primitive inteligence despite have a big intelligence level (but not sufficient to reach the sapient level), and because of that many can said that their can be good candidates as story characters..... well .... in fact .... it's not a problem here !
Becauses yes, on Kaimere the orcas in this story really speak like us humans and have their own language, like the dinosaurs protagonnist in "Walking With Dinosaurs The Movie" (2013) to compare.
The Moqrin orcas are (nearly) sapient (Keenan confirm this in his facebook account post), the only sapient cetacean specie on Kaimere to reach this intelligence level so far, thus the two others species of orcas remain primitive inteligence.
And since Goliath, the main protagonnist of the first POV story to be made, is a male Moqrin/Orca hybrid, he's sapient and completely conscient and aware of his actions and his environnement.
Why Moqrin are sapient ? Well, since Moqrin arrive on Kaimere there asmot 3 millions years before today, they have all the time necessary to increase their intelligence level and to reach the sapient level, thus modern orcas just arrived very recently and their inteligence level remaining the same as on earth (maybe they will a day become sapient too, but it's another story).
Their increase intelligence to reach sapient level was likely favorise due to all these competition elements of their environnement who forced them to be more resourcefull than even.
Mostly maybe the presence of numerous bigger predators, since on earth Moqrin were at the top apex alimentary chain and there was any competition element who force them to be more intelligent.
It's all ! This is why Moqrin are sapient and are perfect candidates as a result to be mains characters for a story like any humans or kaimeran.
Plus, that include a new another non-human sapient creature into Kaimere univers (as the Notzokideu and Juiji pterosaurs, the Dinosauroid troodontid and all the homunculus for example), and also since cetacean are good candidate with primates and birds as sapient candidates being due to their high base intelligence level and adaptability/flexsibility !
(plus, sapient cetaceans are very popular among people in any kind of story, so, good to use this popular wave ;) )
Also, Keenan, just a question, what the word POV means ?
Thank you for the comment! Good and comprehensive stuff. POV is an acronym that stands for Point Of View, so the story is from their perspective.
I’m loving your orca story in Songs of the Inland Sea. Looking forward to more stories from the perspective of non-humans in future videos and anthologies
Thank you! I hope to do a story entirely focused on xenofiction down the road.
My favorite extant mammals!
They're so neat!
Great to see Killer Whales adapt in Kaimere. They are my absolutely favorite top oceanic predator.
Quick question did Zygophyseter and Acrophyseter never make it to Kaimere? And would they have survived.
Acrophyseter is super successful! The three surviving macroraptorial sperm whales are all descended from that genus back in the Miocene. The grandfather whale is actually a giant descendant of Acro that convergently resembles Livyatan after that whale was driven to extinction by Acro and zanitel on the small end and Motomazor on the large.
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Oh ! The Grandfather Whale is a Acrophyseter's descendant !
I always believe to this day that this creature was no other than the Levyatan hiself, since we have the real Megalodon on Kaimere and that these two species are famousely known to be direct concurrents on earth !
Shame that the Levyatan no more exist on Kaimere despite he was brought too, but the Acrophyseter/Grandfather whale still a good equivalent substitute to him.
But i thought grandfather whale was livytan why is it now acrophyster
A worthy video of the mighty leviathan hunter, is amazing how they manage to adapt to the highly competitive context of Kaimere to not only become one of the dominant predators (specialy among mammals) but to even start outcompeting one of their biggest rivals in the polar seas, it shows how versatile and dominant orcas truly are despite not being at the top of the food chain, and why they are one of my favorite cetaceans. In my own speculative work (which is of a much smaller scale) orcas would also coexist and compete with marine reptiles, but they would also become the hunters of the beasts of the past, maybe even turning into a new type of orca adapted to this new and hostile enviroment.
One thing I would like to ask for is the name of the soundtrack used in the video, is such a perfect melody for the ocean black king and I would like to know the name of the soundtrack to listen to it in it´s entirely
The picture at 8:47 minute between an modern orca and a Zanitel elamosaur remind me a lot the old vintage depictions between the mosasaurid Mosasaurus/Tylosaurus (when they were represented with a dorsal crest) against undertemined Elamosaurid !
Particulary the ones of Burian Zdenek showing these view of these creatures !
This paleoartist, with Charles R Knight, is one of the best reconize paleoartist of all time !
And even if their paleoarts depictions, for many, are by today standars no more accurate, their remain populars and love by the public !
These later depictions are quite famous among the old vintage but quite popular 1900 to 1960 paleoarts works !
I find good as alway that you alway manage and find time to make tribute and reference to these no longer accurate works depictions but still amazing looking and artistitic views about the species we all love today !
Thank you! That one is by Stocky on Twitter, and is a direct homage to the piece you're talking about! He really did an excellent job with it.
@@TalesofKaimere By Stocky ! I believe that was from you, and a old picture (who thankfully stand out) you made at the beginning of your channel etc...
Dam, his own draws have highly evolved from this picture to the ones he made for you todays !
All my respects !
I like a lot the 7:32 minute picture ! She completely take roots of the famous paleoart drawn one of Dan Varner !
This later paleaoart depiction image being very one of the main about the Cretoxyrhina shark that the draw depict it !
Between the original draw and this free version by @_Stocky, only the mosasaur animal remain the same ! (alway in a bad position XD)
The Cretoxyrhina shark is here replace by a Moqrin and the pterosaurs being replace by generic gulls.
In anyway the two draws are amazing looking pictures !
You Keenan and @_Stocky have really a great collaborations betweem you !
His arts is awesome !
Udapte : okay, sorry, the orcas with see attacking the mosasaurid is not a Moqrin actually but a Moqrin/Orca hybrid. We see that if we watch carefully his skin/color pattern.
It's not a big error since this hybrid is more closer to the Moqrin than the Orca, only differing mainly in term of size, but I wanted to correct/precise this point anyway.
On Objecia, there are no Earth Orcas. Instead, there is the Striped Orca, a smaller but similar relative. The reason why it's smaller is because of competition with another apex predator: The Hyper Predatory Beaked Whale. The Striped Orca behaves like the resident Orcas of Earth, and feeds on fish off all sizes from small fry, to huge oceanic sunfish. They rarely hunt other marine mammals, due to competition to certain beaked whales like the Hyper Predatory Beaked Whale mentioned earlier.
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"Oh, you are aproaching me... Instead of running away you are aproaching me.."
"I cant beat the shit out of you without getting closer"
"Hoho... Then get as close as youd like..."
haha pretty much!
Extract/Except from "Tempered in Ash and Blood" that Keenan revealed in his Twitter/facebook account :
“Once we’re a few lengths back, the serpent rolls over. A long barbed tongue pushes out of her jaws, touching the walrus corpse. Although she tests the meal, her eyes are both locked on me. Above her head she keeps her back to me. Clicks illuminate the many bony plates under her hide. Piercing her torso would be impossible. The bold pattern on her shoulders and fins mirrors the shape and intense focus of her gaze. It’s a bit unnerving to my eyes. I imagine it is terrifying to a creature that can only see.”
Since the Southeast Asian Harvest took place only 1.5 - 1.45 mya ago, all extant species that live in that geographic area may be candidates for occurrence on Kaimere.
Indeed, an animal species or a genus having a lifespan of approximately 3, 4 to 5 million years (even more for certain cases), all current species on earth were already alive/existed at this period (which then is, we were still in the Pleistocene era).
They lived them and the other now extinct species that cohabited with them on earth at the same time. All the current species still alive on earth are none other than the surviving species from the extinction of the end of the last ice age which precisely marked the end of the Pleistocene, those which have succeeded in adapting because being either smaller in size or more generalist.
In any case, this gives you a large enough margin to incorporate all the current species of this geographical area that you want, the same for that of the Northern Eurasian Harvest 805-770 kya too btw.
In a recent commentary about pheasants on Kaimere you said that you haven't yet choose the ones who will be in Kaimere, because you must check the species that was alive at this time.
Well technically, you can choose and put any current living species, for example, of pheasants on kaimere since they're were all technically alive during this Southeast Asian Harvest.
And even if some were not alive at this time, their mothers or grandmothers species who will give birth to them later and alive at this time had to physically resemble them in and colors like their current daughters specie descendants !
So, it's pretty good like fact, isn't !? :)
Like what
Cool video❤, Can you do hymenocarines, anomalocaris, ominidens, trilobites, sea scorpions and horseshoe crabs that can be found somewhere in kaimere pretty pls?
There already are Sea Scorpions on Kaimere, and pretty well represented with generic looking species and derived species.
The Trilobites and Horseshoe crab must be present too.
Maybe Anomalocarid, but In order to survive all the more recent and younger predator like Mesozoic or Cenozoïc ones, they should evolved for others niches.
@@dudotolivier6363 Oh, i think the Anomalocarids maybe go shallow for a bit i.e reefs, lagoons and kelp forest, the larger ones may deep and the others may just go to the deepest depths and day and go the the surface at night
The word you missed for a bigger hybrid was "hybrid virgour" or "heterosis"
And there are hybrids that are only viable with a certain parent combination. Eg male chicken x female quail can lead to a hybrid. But female chicken and male quail are not possible. Also for fertility between hybrids, Haldane's rule is helpful. But many (specially mammals) are just infertile anyway.
Oh and there are always exceptions to the rule, for example there is a habdfull (single digets!) of documentet cases where mules gave birth. And we produced a lot of mules... probability should be something like 0,0001% chance of fertility. That's enough with big enough populations
Can’t wait for the next anthology! Great video as well
Thank you!
good episode Keenan and also quite interesting both on the killer whales of Kaimere and the next anthology with new stories along with the story focusing on the orca, bring me with one question is this second anthology will have some stories focusing on the animals Kaimere?
Thanks, and yes! There will be several short stories in the anthology focusing on the creatures.
Random Question : Is that sometimes you don't find it boring (bother you) that certain/specific animal species on Kaimere are so adaptable and generalist that they completely outcompete or almost all other species that are close to it or that partly share the same ecological niche (ex: Uka bear, Leopard, Common otter…) ?
Because at the end, that reduce highly the diversity of each group where these species belong, and in a way it's a shame, don't you agree ?
This is true, it does reduce the overall biodiversity. The uku bear has singlehandedly outcompeted most other bears with the exception of a few cave bears to the north, but I did that to show that sometimes being pretty generalist is a huge advantage. They may not be the strongest, fastest, or smartest bear, but being adaptable means they have a long-term advantage over animals that hyper specialize: genetic diversity and flexibility in habitat. The known world often lends itself to extreme specialization and therefor high biodiversity since it's so competitive and things advance in extremes (specialists of open forest that don't do well in prairie or dense forest for example) often leads to genetic isolation. The inland sea blackfish for example became the best in that context, but orcas outcompeted them because of their much more healthy population even if they weren't as good in that specific context. Having a population of 10,000 healthy generalists is better than a bunch of genetically isolated pods. I have a lot of diverse specialists, but a few animals come in and shine as widespread generalists. These generalists also tend to be more recent (you'll notice most are from the Pleistocene) since their descendants end up specializing which will eventually leave them vulnerable to the same context that gave their ancestors dominion. Leopards aren't the 'best big cat', they're just the most recent of a pattern of generalists ousting the specialized but genetically isolated species.
Damn, seems like killer whales have done quite well. I’m not that surprised considering how formidable they are on Earth but I’m still quite intrigued. I like how they still aren’t quite on the same level as the clearly larger and stronger reptilian competition. They feel almost like the wolves of the sea while the Grandfather Whales are more like bears; being able to stand their ground and win against one, but when a large group shows up, they promptly turn tail and run. I look forward to what comes next! :)
Absolutely! Although orcas are often overrated imo, I still think they could hold their own, and approaching the contests from an angle of brains over brawn has a lot of fun potential!
This made my day a lot better. Ive been feeling like crap for the past several days.
I hope your day continues to improve!
Honestly I feel like a pod of any these blackfish could kill a giant plesiosaur. The plesiosaur cannot attack in two directions and Orcas in particular have extremely powerful bites and great cunning, they could surround the plesiosaur and rip apart the fins making the plesiosaur helpless.
Important to keep in mind orcas usually kill prey by drowning. Minke whales are recorded to fend off and escape. While they are formidable predators, I wouldn't overestimate them.
It's cool that the Orca POV is more or less finish, and that you already have 4 others stories plans for the next water themed anthology.
They will feature a kurajaku, a marine sloth, and a kraken for each.
But, just to be sure, I have a question, they all will be simply elements/creatures in the stories who will play a big role in a way or another, OR, will they be all the mains protagonnists of their own/each stories ?
Because, in order to be protagonnists of a stories, they must be sapient being (because if they're not, they can't give their feelings or own depictions on what they face off or see, they can't made any dialogues, since they have only a primitive intelligence).
Except if, of course, the narration is like in a documentary with a narraor who describe the sequences/scenes where the creatures take actions.
For the Moqrin, it's okay since you recently revealed they are sapient (the only cetacean specie so far), but there was never established befoe that the Kurujaku, any kind/specie of giant sloth are sapient intelligence !
The kraken is okay since he was never presented before on the channel or in your different social account. So okay with that even most of us should prefer a more classic primitive intelligence kraken who attack boat on seas like most culturals stories with this lengendary beast.
In order to resolve this "problem" is the Kurujaku and marine sloth are in fact the main protagonnist of these stories butt heir species haven't sapient level, can we use the "scenaristic excuse" that these particular specimens are mutant/demons who obtain a superior intelligence aftr an unknown mutation event or something like that ?
Nothing to see with the current subject but ... about the Eastern Continent in Kaimere univers, I don't know why but ... it alway give me a asiatic vibe or inspiration despite his biome composition is highly diverse like a mosaic, with some infinite arid deserts plains where horses like rhinos runs ...
It's maybe just the name who give me this impresssion.
But still, I'm excited for the video who will inroduce us to this land !
Great video, and looking forward to the anthology
Let’s go Orcas. Love them, hate what we do to them and love what they do on Kaimere.
The Blackfish folks are really interesting and I really like them.
Random Question : I never know before today that the Maku people are in fact a domestic breed of Kaimeran by the First Children ! And in order to be obidient to these laters and following every of their orders.
After the First Children extinction, they become faithful and loyal slaves/servants of homunculies.
But after Homunculies were kick off by kaimeran, the Maku become free !
1 - But how they felt, experimented and lived their "freedom" when this event happen ?
2 - What was at the time their relationship with others kaimerans ?
3 - Did they see them as their savior or as those/bad people who eliminated their beloved master ?
4 - What are their relation with them today, bad, correct or good ?
5 - How they lived on their island ?
6 - Why they eat ?
7 - Will they have a proper video one day ?
8 - There are in the Known World and in the Eastern Continent in the same time (where in this later contiennt they are sometime hunted by a flying mammal (that i now forget his name) they mistake with a thylacoleo) ?
9 - Also, they look a lot to Neandertalian (as my opinion) in term of overall physical body shape and facial traits, It is a coincidence or there is a particulate reason ?
1. Mose Maku of Qajar were killed when the homunculi were driven from the peninsula. Those who survived fled to the Eastern continent or escaped over the wall and integrated into the H. altus 'western giants' there.
2. At the time they hated Kaimerans for killing their masters and bringing a disease and magic that killed most of their people, and forced them to flee their home.
3. They still hate Kaimerans for killing their 'gods'
4. The relationship is still bad. Many Maku lords lean 'ocean walks' to reclaim their homeland, since the H. erectus of the Eastern continent let them live in poor lands but didn't want them to integrate. Maku were by that point no longer designated to breeds as soldier, worker, and other archetypes, but they are still fast growing, and physically enhanced compared to most beings, and the enhancements they were given by the First Children (soldier maku had hyena teeth and claws and traits like that, so they were originally pretty terrifying).
5. Maku now live mostly on the Eastern continent along the west coast, which is primarily coastal desert.
6. Maku in these coastal settlements mostly fish, but they have some farming supported by aqueducts that pump and filter sea water.
7. I definitely plan on devoting an episode to them eventually.
8. They are mostly on the Eastern continent, but a few have integrated into the H. altus of Arvel.
9. It is a coincidence. They're actually kinda the opposite of neanderthals in some respects: longer limbs rather than the stocky proportions.
Have you ever thought on doing a video about extinct clades of kaimere? (ex: Diplodocids, Spinosaurids, Carcharodontosaurids, Stegosaurids, etc)?
Are there any Paleognathes in Kaimere?
Random Question : There some time, you revealed to us, after a comment question of mine if I correctly remenber, that you decide to change the classification of the Titan Crow and Banshee Gull pterosaurs.
From Azhdarchid to Tapejarid (now close relative to the generic looking Mokua anf the sapient Notzokideu and Juiji families).
And you even recently made some redesigns of these creatures.
But why you decide to change their classification (because here, it's really a rare, but incredibly big change compare to all the others "changes/redesgins" who are in general too sighly to be count as well) ?
They were rather pretty good as Azdarchid. No ?
What was wrong to them to be bad as Azdarchid ?
You also said that you take this decision, that came on you, after watching BBC "Prehistoric Planet" TV show.
What things in this documentary, who btw haven't any Tapejarid species on screen, change your ideas about the classification and use of these two species which are the Titan Crow and the Banshee Gull ?
Apologies for any confusion, I had been planning that redesign for a few years. Prehistoric Planet just inspired me to want to draw the pterosaurs, it didn't inspire the cladistic change. Making them tapejarids that mimic azhdarchids following the dynastic extinction seemed more interesting to me and shows that pterosaurs are still adapting and evolving, which I think is important to show since a lot of media depicts dinosaurs and other mesozoic fauna surviving in alternate timelines as barely changing from their ancestors. A more dynamic evolution is more realistic and interesting in my opinion. I appreciate why a lot of dinosaur media just keeps all the familiar clades. It's a LOT of work to speculate 66 million years of evolution, and people who want to see dinosaurs tend to like seeing familiar taxa, but it's not the angle I want to take for this project. There's familiar archetypes (megaraptorans look a lot like tyrants, thescelosaurs kinda resemble hadrosaurs, and there are still horned dinosaurs just not from the clade containing Triceratops) because dinosaurs presented pretty consistent results for say what large theropods looked like even if several clades independently got big, and it also offers a bit of that familiarity without making it look like Kaimere's dinosaurs are stagnant in their evolution.
@@TalesofKaimere Okay, so the Titan Crow and the Banshee Gull already were reclassified as Tapejarid since a bit of time and you just haven't the time until some weeks to redraw them. Okay.
Sure, there was already great as Azdarchid but I respect your vision to reclassified them as Tapejarid to illustrate how the pterosaurs and others mesozoic animal can continue to evolve in alternate evolution.
But if most of other spc evo who show dinos put dinos or others prehistoric creatures who almost overall not change so much even after 66-65 millions years, it's because many of them have a quiete perfect form, enought to make any change quite useless.
For example, sauropod have reach a point were only the size difference is a pertinent change to choose if a bad event happen. The rest of their anatomy have any real way to take. For many creatures, they simply arrive to a point of no return where they can't go farer.
Even on Kaimere, there a lot of animals who look exactly like their ancestors.
Sauropods on Kaimere remain generic sauropods (long neck, long tail, four pillar legs, big size, one big belly) and their osteoderms is even a regulars aspect of their ancestors since we know that most sauropods had such defenses on their body.
Or the Cockatrice ! Even today, these dromeosaurs remain ... well ... normal dromeosaurs like their ancestors were for most of them.
The best example I can give is also the Shark order ! Even if in 400 millions years of evolution there was a big amount of diversity in alimentation, behaviors and forms in these cartilagenous fish, overall most of them remain similars in shape and have all in common a common shape we all know today.
They quickly evolved into a almost perfect forms and niche that they only differs in size throughout the ages !
But yes, there animals who changes overtimes and others who not evolved so much. it's 50/50 in the animal wolrd.
Heeeck yes! Orcas have plenty of things to YEET out of the water on Kaimere. And Haida the Blackfish is not someone I'd ever want to meet - which I mean as a compliment because that dood be scary. Looking forward to Goliath's story! :D (Which reminds me I got distracted before I finished the first anthology and need to actually finish it - the worldbuilder's curse.)
How did you get into developing the seas of the Known World, anyway? Ocean life seems like a massive and daunting subject to cover - especially when one considers things like terrestrial animals diving back in, so to speak. Every time a new marine species of Kaimere video comes out I look over at Uthir and regret just how little I know about ocean life.
It is a very daunting prospect. The deep oceans will be especially wild to design since the portal doesn’t reach the deep abyss so hasn’t harvested any deep ocean life from Earth. The deep oceans of Kaimere are therefore completely distinct and there’s some truly weirdo beasties planned for down there. Going to take a minute to design even the basic ecology since it’s so unique but I am super excited. There’s a lot of megafauna above the abyss that die sink and decompose, a ton of runoff from Kaishel’s inland sea into the ocean just south of the known world, along with deep sea volcanic activity from moving continents all adds up to a CRAZY prolific deep sea that will be on a whole new level compared to deep oceans of Earth in terms of clades and biodiversity
@@TalesofKaimere Yooo!!! I'm excited. Terrified, but excited! The oceans of Kaimere are truly full of sea monsters.
Great video keenan.Also I like to ask how do you come up with words for a languages in kaimere since I would like to also do that for the sentients of my project having their own language.
I really gotta do an episode on the languages of Kaimere. Developing a conlang (constructed language) that sounds cohesive and consistent is a pretty time-consuming process. I took a linguistics class in college and the final was to make the foundation of a conlang, which is when I made the basis of Pakardiant. From those notes I made the base of the other Kaimeran languages, mostly figuring out things like a basic vocabulary list then anytime I need a new word I go for something that sounds consistent (qrin was already a word in the trade language meaning. blackfish so I added the ga prefix for big, and mo meaning cold/southern/winter)
Are there swordfish in kaimere?
Yup! Haven't designed them yet but I have a few species planned.
Is there monotremes on Kaimere ?
Possibly will be a platypus from Pleistocene Australia in some of the wetlands.
@@TalesofKaimere These specie will be either the living one we know today (Ornithorhynchus anatinus) or a sister specie from the same genus.
As for the Echidnas, well, I think their still good candidate in Kaimere. After all, their are spiky creatures, and spike is a good defense.
I remind everyone that these animals live during the Australian megafauna golden age ! With the giants Megalania, Quinkana, the Thylacoleo and thylacine predators who were numerous and dangerous.
In final, Autralia, know even today as the mot dangerous place on earth, is not very different of Kaimere's Known World on most of the points !
So what other videos are in the pipeline?
Did any orcinus coincide with the Northern Eurasian harvest or North and Central American harvest?
Probably a few came from the north eurasian harvest but I wasn’t able to confirm that they would be present at the right place and time, so I’m saying the majority of the population is from the African coast. Might be some O. orca are from the eurasian harvest and were absorbed by the African population. If there were any in the American harvest, which was cut extremely short, it would just be a few dozen to a hundred individuals that would be later integrated into local populations or die off with no legacy.
Since these harvested animals are just populations of the exact same specie (Orcinus orca, aka the Gaqrin on Kaimere), each of them at each harvest just add new and fresh genetic pool inside the specie, creating a good genetic diversity.
the sea wolf have some land territory so now there mostly sea wolfs
will there be an episode about tyrannosaurs, hadrosaurs that survived the dynastyk exstikshib and how they do in a world where megaraptors and parkosaurs took over their niches ????
Eventually!
The Zanitel is a great enemy of both the Orca/Gaqrin and the Moqrin !
The Zanitel and the Gaqrin have regulars fights like the picture at 8:47 and 9:03 minute show and depict it !
The 6:55 picture show a Gaqrin/modern Orca hunting marine aquatic sloth on a beach exactly like they do on earth with seals/sea lions.
This later aspect of this cetacean specie is one of the most famous when it come to the Killer Whale ! Even if all the orcas population not used this hunting method.
All these illustrations depict Gaqrin/modern Orca, the same specie we have on earth, and not the Moqrin. But you use them netherless to illustrate the Moqrin informations.
However, even if you speak about the Moqrin when you use these illustrations, that count as well too !
Moqrin and modern orcas/Gaqrin only differ overall by size. Outside that, their life and behaviors are very similars !
So, there no real problems here :)
Orca always badass.
Hell yeah they are
Random Question : The Western Forest of Arvel and the ones of the rest of the Continent outside the Known World map are boreal/temperate kind forest, like the ones of North America or Europe but with a warmer climate ? (since I often read that the Western Continent have a high North American/Canadian look in the comments of the beavers videos)
According to his 3rd qna, the Northern and Western forests are comparable to Indian and Central African tropical rainforests.
@@ryanchen1819 It's an old video, in addition, almost every scenery or picture, background who take place in the Western forest show clearly boreal/temperate trees instead of tropical ones, with many giant conifers trees and Redwood like trees.
I was just asking this question to be sure.
But the infos about the Western forests specifiquelt in this old video is pretty outdated and no more to take into account.
Also, most of the species in the Western continent are clearly temperate/boreal adapted species too.
@@dudotolivier6363 I see though it could still be compared to India which has tropical conifer forests in places like parts of the Himalayas and India-Myanmar border. I'm also not entirely sure if these trees were necessarily the boreal/temperate kinds of trees like the redwoods and could just as well be descended from the Mesozoic kind which seem to be more warm adapted. It should also be noted that the temperate adapted species in the Western continent seem to have a higher warm tolerance/were descended from animals that had a higher warm tolerance than their other animals (hence how certain animals such as beavers, boar, cervids, palaeoloxodon, and otters were able to become more widespread in the West than other animals) or found more suitable habitat in the Highlands which are indeed temperate compared to the rest of the continent.
It's cool that Moqrin and Gaqrin/Orcas can mate between them, even if their offsprings can reproduce (but the hybrids males giving a good defense against predators like Elamosaurid, from where the Moqrin/Gaqrin hybrid males received their title of Serpent-Slayer) but ....
Since Moqrin are sapient and Gaqrin are primitive inteligence ...
It's not a little disturbing and weird for the Moqrin to mate with animals who possess a inferior inteligence ?
I don't know why, but for me, in comparison, it's in the same level than if we, humans, mate with Chimpanzees or Gorillas ... no ? (btw sorry for the picture if it's too disturbing for the people who read this).
Because, us, human, will find this weird, too weird to even made the action in question !
Or, Moqrin do that in purpose in order to have better denfenders for the overall pods, prefering hybrids males who will better defends the groups rather than classic Moqrin males ?
Moqrin aren’t fully of human levels and types of intelligence, and orcas aren’t really that far behind. Their languages are pretty complex it seems mostly they just don’t have the ability to innovate at our level given their lack of a reliable manipulation organ. The difference between orca and moqrin intelligence is slim and not at the extreme of human vs chimps, since moqrin aren’t as smart as humans and orcas are smarter than chimps.
@@TalesofKaimere Okay, maybe they aren't in the same level than humans, but they still sapient netherless, just lesser than humans.
That enought to make them candidates to be main protagonists characters in a story.
Otherwise, it's impossible to use a animal in this way if he's primitive intelligence (since he will not speak, dialogues or have thoughts at all).
Anyway, if Moqrin are not disturbed to mate with orcas despite these later being a little far behind in term of intelligence and not sapient at all, so okay for them :)
But, that would have been interesting that the Moqrin use on purpose orcas to obtain betters defenders for their pods. Just an opinion of my.
It’s definitely an uncommon tactic. They know their sons won’t be fertile but will be excellent pod defenders
another great video on an iconic species
Heck yeah!
So what videos are in the pipeline?
If Moqrin and Gaqrin/Orca can mate together, but their offsprings being steriles, it's because the two species are just enought close to made viable offsprings but not farer than this.
The two species, despite being in the same genus, have almost 3-2 millions years who separate them/between them, and are from close but different species lineage of the same genus (maybe in different sub-genus like in monitors lizards).
In order that their hybrids offsprings can have babies of their own, they must have almost or an identical number of chromosomes.
Because yes, in hybridation, two conditions must be complete to make hybrids.
1 - the two parents species must be enought close to have babies togethers. Species in the same genus or close differents genus work.
But between species too unrelated, it's impossible (two species of pheasant, okay, but between a girafe and a gorilla, it's impossible).
2 - after this step, all depend about the chromosomes similarities between the parents species.
If the two haven't the same number, mostly to different, most of their offspring will be steriles or a little level fertile at maximum.
If the two have the same number or very close number of chromosomes, their offsprings will be fertiles and have babies of their owns.
In hybrids, the offsprings will alway look more one of the two parents species whatever the gender of their parents.
But a good part of the example know by science always look more like their mothers in some hybridation cases.
In general, even if sometime the hybridation, over the evolution, had give birth to new complete and apart species, most of the time, the offsprings hybrids will mate with a member of one of their parents specie and their offsprings will look more like these later specie.
This event is known as "Specialization by Hybridation" where one oo the two species in the same time received genes from the others species.
It's often beneficials for the species genetics diversity and highly common in nature !
It's even demonstrate to be the key success of Homo genus species, Canidae species, Duck species, Butterflies lepidoptera species or Cetacean species in their respective evolution !
Are there tapirs in Kaimere?
Probably but I haven't finalized them yet!
@@TalesofKaimere If you want ideas, I think there was a cold temperate adapted specie, Tapirus avernensis, that live in Europe during the Pleistocene.
And about the color pattern, you can alway take inspiration on the Far Cry Primal (2016)'s Tapir of the game !
Truly, check this game if you wasn't aware of it before !
Awesome I can’t wait to get a story from one of the animals point of view and my favorite animal no less
Absolutely!
Awesome
some species of wyvern's should have no venom and some terrordactyl's species to be realistic?
Any other human species that you plan on putting in kaimere?
Currently it's just H. kaimerensis (sister species to H. sapiens) and several species descended from H. erectus (all have speciated so aren't still H. erectus, but that's the ancestor).
The orca is without a doubt my favorite out of all the marine animals I also heard that megalodon went extinct because of killer whales in climate change how to be a bit over the top but that’s what I heard of
It's Moqrin time
Wait a minute! You said in your toothed whales episode that the Qrin is a relative of the "False" Killer Whale. Now, you say it's actually in the same genus as Orcas. Aren't you contradicting yourself here?
Yup! It's a revision of their cladistics. May still have some false killer whales, but I prefer these as a gracile, more menacing Orcinus.
@@TalesofKaimere Do the naturalists of Bolundakhoi debate this kind of thing?
You remember me, right? I have to create yet another account, with the same content. Unfortunate, right?
Hey can you do snakes yet
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Too bad they are probably infertile, as is the case with most male hybrids.
It's true. They often reach maturity, but can't produce offspring of their own.
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It’s theorized that orca whales were the final nail in the coffin that lead to megalodons extinction on earth since they out competed it for the few remaining suitable prey items left.
Yeah Keenan should do a video about Megalodon to explain its place in the setting.
oof inspired much? harnesses?
I don't understand. You think it unlikely for humans to independently develop a harness twice? I believe the peoples of the Andes developed a harness independent of Eurasian harnesses already so the idea of them making one for a sophont cetacean companion they're trading with doesn't seem that far-fetched
@@TalesofKaimere sorry im australian......meant no offense mate XD. and im Torres noongar, no clue about eurasia or the andes tho.
@@TalesofKaimere its just unbelivable that there arent any common marine harnessnes within polynesians and torres folk, hell where is duh dugong farms? surely one rock pool enclosure somewhere one sitewhere folks used dugongs in marine pastures....ooof and ye nah the idea that cant develop techniques convergently is as bad as rogan talkin about cobbles and gaps between bricks, I gotta think he wouldve mentioned olmecs or summin also.
@@TalesofKaimere honestly chief didnt expect a response XD
Actually lil more sensitive than i thought he'd be crikey, but thats just americans? right?
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