Realms Beyond the Known World: The Permian Islands - Here There Be Dragons!

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  • A distant island chain far north of the known world is called the 'Permian Islands' by Assembly naturalists, who note many of the endemic flora and fauna trace their ancestry to Permian harvests. However, the islands go by another name in translations of Kaimeran historical treatises: the Dragon Archipelago.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 375

  • @bonemarrow3439
    @bonemarrow3439 Рік тому +145

    This rendition of dragons is the most unique I've ever seen. Kudos to you Keenan

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +18

      Thank you!

    • @petarbrkic6404
      @petarbrkic6404 Рік тому +2

      ​@@TalesofKaimere Hey bro , did you see my pictures sent from E-Mail ?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +8

      @@petarbrkic6404 I did. I replied to a couple of them. I don't do collaborations with people but I appreciate your enthusiasm.

    • @petarbrkic6404
      @petarbrkic6404 Рік тому +5

      ​@@TalesofKaimere Thank you

    • @happynihilist2573
      @happynihilist2573 Рік тому

      I wouldn't call it the most unque but it's most certainly relly good

  • @bluefyre7
    @bluefyre7 Рік тому +121

    After hearing you say years ago that you don’t think you would ever introduce true dragons to Kaimere, it was such a wonderful surprise to see you start to develop Permian Island dragons and their riders! I’m such a fan of the Permian Island and it’s ecology, and, just like with Kaishel, it’s amazing how you’ve made these environments feel so alien compared to the Known World we’ve had time to become familiar with! Considering information about Permian fauna on Earth is not nearly as commonplace as that of the Mesozoic and it’s dinosaurs, it’s great to see these often overshadowed creatures get their own land where they’re the main cast!
    Thanks for again building onto Kaimere and please never stop! Keep up the amazing work!!!

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +15

      Thank you so much! Super glad to hear you enjoyed!

    • @hinskiemaso9198
      @hinskiemaso9198 Рік тому +1

      It's also amazing how much better you express my feelings about Permian Islands then I am.

    • @joshuagonzalez4183
      @joshuagonzalez4183 Рік тому

      @Cole_Mevin
      👍🏻✨

    • @skistorm739
      @skistorm739 Рік тому +2

      @@TalesofKaimere just a joke what if you do a monster hunters explaining an I remember the magical world isn't magical

    • @skistorm739
      @skistorm739 Рік тому

      @@TalesofKaimere an does kaimere have rapid evolution should make a million years even if simple like 12000 years

  • @JasonBerger631
    @JasonBerger631 Рік тому +20

    Was not expecting Permian era therapsids to develop into mf dragons

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +10

      It felt like a great way to link together the fear of serpents, birds of prey, and cats which are often cited as inspiration for dragon myths.

    • @JasonBerger631
      @JasonBerger631 Рік тому +4

      @@TalesofKaimere yessir, the three major predator groups of our ancestors

  • @Ditidos
    @Ditidos Рік тому +31

    These dragons are very interesting. The islands have an interesting cast, it's funny how, despite there being no Triassic harvest there are still interesting and unique cocodrilomorphs going around in some parts of the world.
    Also, learning that modern dragons are relatively magical is quite interesting. The ancient breeds idea sounds really interesting and makes me wonder if there once were breeds who genuinelly had fire breath or other forms of breath weapons. I also love the idea of dragons being synapsids, I personally do so a lot on D&D campaigns, albeit they are way more basal than these ones so they still have that scaly look (albeit in my personal spec bio project they are technically amphibians).

  • @extraordinarytv5451
    @extraordinarytv5451 Рік тому +6

    I love the look of the spitting panther because it's head looks simultaneously tyrannosaurine and dog/bear like.

  • @1998topornik
    @1998topornik Рік тому +32

    Permian Islands are nice mix of Permian animals, austrialia-like convergent evolution with a little bit of touch of Song of Ice and Fire. Overwall fantastic video but I feel like some things very cut out like dicynodonts and aquatic predators. I also expected that will do something very uncanny with some animals like suminia. Now its time to wait for what suprise awaits us in next two weeks.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +11

      Yeah, I ended up cutting the segment on the surrounding marine fauna because there was no way I was going to get that art done.

  • @thenerdbeast7375
    @thenerdbeast7375 Рік тому +38

    I absolutely love the design of the Permian Jackals, it is such a cool idea to give them a hare-like build with a springing gait rather than a simple canid-like body plan. I especially like the detail of like the evolution of dogs on Earth their tolerance of humans allowing them to settle on the fringes of settlements allowed them to thrive while other predators are pressured into decline by human activity.

  • @transnewt
    @transnewt Рік тому +10

    i hesitate to call this the best rendition of dragons yet, but it is absolutely up there.

  • @TheGreatAukGaming
    @TheGreatAukGaming Рік тому +23

    I need to see a video on the jurassic island, gotta be at least one surviving allosaur species on it

    • @ginam5497
      @ginam5497 Рік тому +5

      carcharadontosaur mimics 2.0

  • @michaelpenkalski3287
    @michaelpenkalski3287 Рік тому +5

    The Horned Lion in particular reminds me of the monsters from Where the Wild Things Are and the Roo-Hog is almost a dead ringer for Ludo from Labyrinth! Love it!

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +3

      Horned lion was a definite reference, but the roo-hog is a happy coincidence!

  • @seanessdracosaurus2793
    @seanessdracosaurus2793 Рік тому +11

    OUTSTANDING!

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +1

      Thank you!

    • @seanessdracosaurus2793
      @seanessdracosaurus2793 Рік тому +1

      @@TalesofKaimere your welcome , btw is there a red variant to the dragons ? ( because my home land 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 )

  • @dinomatians9889
    @dinomatians9889 Рік тому +10

    I love learning about Kaimer and it’s animals and history

  • @pangeaman0395
    @pangeaman0395 Рік тому +4

    Titan crows: I can’t believe we had managed to make a steady population in the isles! I hope nothing bad ever happens to us!
    *Rathalos theme plays in the distance*

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +2

      Titan crows: *exist*
      Dragons: “and I took that personally.”

  • @shinygamer3424
    @shinygamer3424 Рік тому +36

    Don't know what your plans are for jurassic island, but I can't wait to learn more about it! Now consider this though. Scansoriopterigyds like yi qi were a jurassic lineage, and they were pretty much tiny, gliding dragons. Now, what if that lineage rose to dominance, but went in a completely different direction with the adaptations once used for gliding having been repurposed for more... nefarious purposes

    • @mrbowtieandproffez6334
      @mrbowtieandproffez6334 Рік тому +12

      Ahh, like tax fraud

    • @jessehunter362
      @jessehunter362 Рік тому +2

      @@mrbowtieandproffez6334 Naw, pirating movies and tv shows via extremely complicated visual display systems with their otherwise nonfunctional “wings”.

  • @BigBossMan538
    @BigBossMan538 Рік тому +2

    I can’t help but feel like this is just scratching the surface of the ecology of this island chain

  • @loisonnut
    @loisonnut Рік тому +10

    I sort of wish we didn't see much beforehand on the Twitter, but the surprises of the ecology and sizes still remain and it doesn't take away from the fantastic episode.
    1. Do you have any plans for a story or write-up regarding the expedition and its casualties?
    2. What happened after that Bear Croc opened the bunker?
    3. What pressures prevent herbivores from becoming massive? (larger than 3 tons)
    4. Are there any isolated populations of dragons in the world, perhaps from dragon riders?
    5. Have any jackals been brought back to the known world?
    6. What does the surrounding marine fauna look like?
    7. Is there anything that war dragon wouldn't be able to predate? It's literally kaiju sized.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +9

      That's valid. I think I just get really excited while doing the works in progress and it definitely helps draw in views, but I can see why folks would want to go in more blind.
      1. Perhaps down the road. I have so many plans for other anthologies, including one built around Assembly expeditions.
      2. Took some rations and left. Although he did rip the door off, it was a slow process and gave the researchers time to escape out the back door.
      3. Mostly food availability. I might be increasing the size of the northern Palatheres but it wouldn't be dramatic.
      4. None planned but I won't rule it out this early in development of the realms beyond the known world.
      5. Not yet, at least none that survived to modern times.
      6. A topic for another time. I had a segment written up but I didn't have time for research or illustration so had to table it.
      7. No, but that was part of the problem. At that size they could only survive if they were regularly fed by their handlers. The largest modern dragons probably wouldn't even reach qualifying sizes of the smallest war dragons.

  • @burakka96
    @burakka96 Рік тому +16

    I SAW THAT KEENAN! You can't just tease me with a pliosaur at the end like that! Fantastic episode by the way, was hoping for a little more info about giant Permian amphibians but i'm still happy with it.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +5

      Yeah I ended up having to cut several segments because I knew I wouldn't have time for all the art, so there's a lot more to be told in future episodes!

    • @rylanbrewer3320
      @rylanbrewer3320 Рік тому +1

      @@TalesofKaimere will they be afiture epsidoe

  • @andredeoliveirafonseca3034
    @andredeoliveirafonseca3034 Рік тому +5

    Great episode. I love that this is almost the cryptid islands, with animals looking like dragons, jackalopes, shisa dogs, drop bears, mokele-mbembe and more. Also like and hate the "chin-ears", real uncanny valley.
    Also at the mentions dragon riders ... my head instantly starts playing the "aaaaaaaaa" GOT dragon theme.

  • @drackool3544
    @drackool3544 Рік тому +3

    The fact that the sloth croc has Gojira as part of its species name make me as a Godzilla fan so freaking happy

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +2

      Thanks! I figured a kaiju fan in the Assembly would absolutely use that species name, even if only a few dozen people even ever saw the dossier lol. Sometimes you gotta make yourself chuckle

  • @krb1235
    @krb1235 Рік тому +8

    17:58 CONGRATULATIONS KEENAN TAYLOR!!! You just fueled my desire to start a farm of Kaimerian domesticates!
    OK, but real talk. This is one of the best episodes so far, been waiting a long time for this!

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +3

      Thanks so much! It was a ton of work but such a joy from start to finish

  • @liambrandley2716
    @liambrandley2716 Рік тому +29

    These have been some of the most unique creatures I've ever seen in your work. Amazing job bringing this spectacular ecosystem to life! I wonder, do you have any plans to explore any other regions or eras of kaimere, like the eastern continent or the mesozoic dynasties?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +7

      Thank you! They are absolutely on the table, but an episode on that scale really needs to wait for a sponsor. This episode for example took easily 100 hours of work between all the writing, research, illustrations, recording and editing, and other components.

  • @stephenlamb4212
    @stephenlamb4212 Рік тому +9

    The Permian islands, home to Godzilla and mother freakin DRAGONS!!!!!!

  • @Jiji_guy
    @Jiji_guy Рік тому +2

    The reasons on why these dragons got so large was unexpected, especially that photosynthetic part damn they crazy with those modifications

  • @aaronbeckett4062
    @aaronbeckett4062 Рік тому +5

    I’m happy to see a crocodilomorph (Bear Croc) because the sebecids and rausuchids make up many predatory niches in Priad, the seed world my novel takes place upon.

  • @juanisol8275
    @juanisol8275 Рік тому +3

    "Here be Dragons"!! Kaimere Expansión to the Land Beyond the Known!! Whooo!! Increíble Endemic Permic Species!! I love your Living Fossils Speculative Evolutionary conception, developtment and explanation!!
    I cant wait to see the Jurassic Islands and More!! Yay!!

  • @MrT_Rex
    @MrT_Rex Рік тому +3

    I don't understand how you can have a so awesome imagination for all of your animals, I tried on my side and I failed. TEACH ME, MASTER TAYLOR !!

  • @mann_man8556
    @mann_man8556 Рік тому +5

    I’m not sure if you did this intentionally but I think it’s cool that the Sloth Croc looks like old depictions of a bipedal Stegosaurus

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +5

      Took some inspiration from Godzilla but old stegosaurs and the idea of a therizinosaur turtle both impacted the design.

  • @Nigel_BC
    @Nigel_BC Рік тому +4

    Beasts so brutal they managed to hunt a population of Titan Crows to extinction 😨. Really drives home the dread of praying dragons never reach the known world.
    I’m floored by this introduction and I can’t wait to learn more!

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +2

      Thanks so much! Yes the combination of fearless domesticates and cunning wild animals is often quite devastating.

  • @taliesincoleman6569
    @taliesincoleman6569 Рік тому +2

    i swear if somebody told me that the beginning and end music was kaimere's opening theme i would WHOLEHEARTLY AGREE!
    Whenever i hear this music i think of kaimere.

  • @sivanlevi3867
    @sivanlevi3867 Рік тому +9

    This episode was awesome! Unbelievable! I have been so curious about the life of the Permian Islands and the life of the Permian Dynasty in general, so this was a treat.
    I'm including many different creatures from before the dinosaurs in my fantasy world too.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +3

      Thanks! Yes pre-dinosaur fauna so often gets overlooked but there are some really fascinating sources of inspiration out there!

  • @dodoxasaurus6904
    @dodoxasaurus6904 Рік тому +2

    can't wait to see the Permian continent!

  • @lamnaa
    @lamnaa Рік тому +6

    What a unique and fantastic addition to the world! I look forward to learning more about this region, and the other parts of the world in the future!

  • @miquelescribanoivars5049
    @miquelescribanoivars5049 Рік тому +6

    "Where are my flying Eborfeltherians!!!"
    - Some Permian island native.

  • @theprehistoricprofessor9076
    @theprehistoricprofessor9076 Рік тому +5

    This one is by far my favorite episode of 2023 and the series, mainly because I've always loved dragons since I was a kid! Great job!

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much! Was a delight from start to finish.

  • @alejandroelluxray5298
    @alejandroelluxray5298 Рік тому +6

    The Permian Islands is truly a Lost World in this wonderful and strange planet, a fascinating insight of the past with beasts of Wonder and mistery, just like the legendary island that the Eight Wonder of the World called home.
    This video has help me with the geographycal structure of my own island chain, and I might make a synapsid dragon of my own

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +3

      Glad you enjoyed and best of luck on your project!!

    • @rylanbrewer3320
      @rylanbrewer3320 Рік тому

      Is there a kaimerean version of hateg island

  • @joshdoz9234
    @joshdoz9234 Рік тому +3

    Why this hasn't been turned into an animated series is beyond me. It's so rare to find genuine original content that isn't saturated by corporate filth.

    • @armata_strigoi_0
      @armata_strigoi_0 Рік тому +4

      I mean, that's the reason lol. Kaimere isn't an established IP, it's just one guys relatively recent world-building project. That's not to take anything away from it, it's just to say that random, independent projects don't get animated series. Maybe we'll see that if or when the books get big.

  • @pranilpanda6789
    @pranilpanda6789 Рік тому +3

    Can’t believe he forgot to talk about the Sloth Croc’s lazer breath

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +2

      Can only fit so much in an overview script 💀

  • @Littlekoji-df1cf
    @Littlekoji-df1cf Рік тому +2

    Already love the detail of the scientific studying in the beginning

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! Was a fun way to establish the lens of the episode and danger of the setting. Probably the format I'll use in other 'beyond the known world' episodes.

  • @nooneimportant834
    @nooneimportant834 Рік тому +6

    Dang the Permian Islands are far larger than I thought lol. Very cool Keenan!

  • @worldforger0
    @worldforger0 Рік тому +10

    Hell yeah! I've been wanting an episode on the dragons and the Permian Islands for ages now, and you shattered my expectations. This has to be one of the coolest depictions of dragons I've seen.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +2

      Thank you so much! Feel like I only scratched the surface but that just leaves room for future dragon episodes!

  • @LudwigVaanArthans
    @LudwigVaanArthans Рік тому +3

    I truly hope this work of fiction gets its own televised series, akin to ASOIAF, one day
    Until such a time may come, please do not overexert yourself and mantain good health, your creative mind must be kept in as good a shape as it can for as long a time as it can possibly be kept
    Also, you basically made a spin-off of the Japanese genre of "isekai" in a way, even if this might be a stretch to claim
    Thanks for all sharing your mind with us

  • @glarnboudin4462
    @glarnboudin4462 Рік тому +7

    ....Wait, the Assembly has *drones?!*
    Are they biological in nature, or technological?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +3

      In modern times they have technological drones brought from Earth.

    • @glarnboudin4462
      @glarnboudin4462 Рік тому

      Aw man - I was kinda hoping they had some First Children ones.

  • @Huitizilopochtli
    @Huitizilopochtli Рік тому +7

    I have waited for this episode since the channel opened. I love this sneak peak into a place almost as big as the known world. Can't wait to see more of it, and of course looking forward to the Jurassic Islands. I also loved you refered to Paleoanalysis.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +1

      Thanks, and heck yeah! Steve has some really incredible stuff.

  • @pedrovascodeoliveiraveriss6293

    Impressive and fascinating worldbuilding, once again!!

  • @dudotolivier6363
    @dudotolivier6363 Рік тому +16

    Keenan's Kaimeran Dragons are inspired by wyverns and other older European dragons (which spit venom or fire) than the homogenized fire breathing modern fantasy versions. Lot of dragon folklore has been noted to feature traits of big cat, snake, and birds of prey, which I wanted to incorporate into their design too. He wanted something that felt like a fresh take on much older dragons (which indeed is the case).
    The Kaimeran Dragons have 2 wings and 2 legs, and are venomous instead of breathing fire, because of that, they are Wyverns, one of the three kind of dragons that are reconized and who exist on our popular culture.
    (the fact that wyvern usually are more depicted with poison instead than fire is another traits in our pop culture that make them distinct from the classic main 4 legs and 2 wings dragons, thus not as commonly know than the number of limbs themselves).
    Kaimeran Dragon of the Permian Island are, in term of overall physionomy, remain pretty classic for a Wyvern (2 legs, 2 wings).
    However, the fact that he's only half reptile due to being a Therocephalian, and not complete reptile, and spit poison like fire, under a smok form, like a spitting cobra, make him pretty new and original from classic Wyverns !
    Because they still at least half-reptile, they can be count as true dragons whithout problems (which would haven't be the case if they weren't repiles at least completely, because a dragon must be a reptile or a good part reptile to count as such).
    Otherwise, about dragons in general, and the way we classify a dragon justly as such, in our human culture, I want to put a note of it.
    Dragon are reptiles.
    About European Dragon, they are the base type. With 4 legs and 2 wings.
    And breath fire.
    But despite Dragons and Wyverns coexisting in the same time during the Middle Age of Europe (the first, classic pennacle era of these creatures), many people today don't usually reconized Wyverns as a true, real members and type of dragons, only due to the number of limbs.
    But Wyverns are TRUE dragons like the classic ones.
    The distinction by the limbs number is a pretty, very recent thing, not older than one (and a half) century.
    Like Curious Archives on UA-cam have put forward that in his video about "Draconology" of VakasRao, before this point, true dragons were depicted with a random number of limbs.
    Also, not only btw Wyverns are the most realistic and viable kind of dragons at the biological level, but there any excuse to not include them as true dragons if the Asian Dragons, the second type/kind, are, them, reconized as such without problems.
    Because, with 4 legs and any wings, they are just basically lizards.
    For me, only the Folklores and cultures of Europe, Asia and all Eurasia's Dragons are true dragons.
    Because, outside the number of limbs, they are often depicted with the overall same, identical bodyshape. And are all clearly complete reptilian critters.
    While the "Dragons" of all the others possible cultures can't be count as true dragons because they are often too chimerics with too non-reptilian animals parts put on them, with only a small minor reptiles part, or, either, just giant versions/specimens of snakes or crocodiles.
    To conclude, the Kaimeran Dragon look very nice ! 👍

    • @turkeygod6665
      @turkeygod6665 Рік тому

      I'm pretty sure they're far more mammalian than reptilian

    • @transnewt
      @transnewt Рік тому

      i disagree. most historical depictions of chinese dragons are clearly therapsids, especially in the face, with the only blatently reptilian traits being the bird-like feet.
      keenans dragons are similar, very clearly being therapsids, and thus nonreptilian. it can hardly be argued that these are half reptilian, considering their ancestry and physical appearance.
      edit: the "i disagree" implies keenans dragons arent fuck off cool and unique. that would just be wrong.

    • @Poliostasis
      @Poliostasis Рік тому +3

      Therocephalians are not reptiles at all, but I think their dragon/wyvern esque designs really fit them.

    • @shingtiong9425
      @shingtiong9425 Рік тому +2

      ​@@transnewt I don't want to be rude but I'm Chinese and you do realize Chinese dragons have carp or koi scales, right?

    • @transnewt
      @transnewt Рік тому +2

      @@shingtiong9425 still not reptilian, and if they were "real animals" they could have just converged with pangolins (which have surprisingly carp-like scales)

  • @Andrey.Ivanov
    @Andrey.Ivanov Рік тому +6

    There's so much amazing stuff about this episode that I can't possibly lay it all out in a comment without making it extremely long. Your creature designs always spark my imagination. I like the fact that we got some lore about the Assembly's efforts to explore the realms beyond the known world. And ofcourse the dragons are incredible both conceptually and designwise. Well done again 👏👏👏

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much! Want to start working in more Assembly perspective since that’s where all the information is coming from and man the dragons were so much fun to bring together!

  • @insanityplatybelodon5748
    @insanityplatybelodon5748 Рік тому +2

    This makes me wonder if dragons would become a more dominant presence in the next Dynasty period after this one, we'll never know I imagine, but it makes you wonder how Kaimere will evolve further

  • @TedShatner10
    @TedShatner10 Рік тому +2

    The Tapir Croc is probably derived from early to mid Triassic archosauria.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +1

      Some argued as much but there is no evidence of Triassic harvests

    • @TedShatner10
      @TedShatner10 Рік тому

      @@TalesofKaimere Nothing confirmed, but possible Triassic descendants seem blended in with the Permian and Jurassic fauna, and similarly very derived (I think those primitive reptiles who spin through the air with their tails as hatchlings may be Triassic derived).

  • @jackbelinski2661
    @jackbelinski2661 Рік тому +3

    The idea of Dragons being Therapsids actually makes perfect sense. After all, despite the portrayal of dragons in our modern media being thoroughly reptilian, dragons from traditional mythology and folklore actually often have facial structures wholly unlike what we think of on normal reptiles (be it lizards or snakes). A surprising number of cultures gave the dragon an odd non-reptile-like head. From the horse, donkey, or mule-like head of the dragons of Western Europe, to the camel-like head of the dragons of China. Although there are exceptions of dragons with bird beaks. Perhaps Cockatrices and so on have skulls similar to Dicynodonts (Mammalian reptile. Called “Turtle Cows” that lived before the dinosaurs. Ex: Placerias, Ischigualastia, and Lisowicia bojani)

  • @gerrardjones28
    @gerrardjones28 Рік тому +2

    I just found you series from my friend and its like a dream come true, your a master at this stuff it is super amazing and interesting!

  • @vasantmasurekar4826
    @vasantmasurekar4826 Рік тому +2

    Exceptional episode. Damn the dragons are terrifying and equally majestic. If by some way they reach the mainland. How much hell will they raise??
    Also looking forward to the Jurassic island episode.

  • @darrenheideman2546
    @darrenheideman2546 Рік тому +2

    Now this is something unexpected, creatures that are "dragons".

  • @feralaquarist8805
    @feralaquarist8805 Рік тому +2

    Oh this is GLORIOUS. I would love to see a book about the initial study expedition.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +2

      It's definitely on my (very very long) project list!

  • @icypoisonfang6705
    @icypoisonfang6705 Рік тому +2

    Absolutely love this video! The Permian Period is one of my favorites and seeing this video makes my day great!

  • @frankburton3002
    @frankburton3002 Рік тому +2

    Nothing better to start off my birthday with!

  • @billyholland5156
    @billyholland5156 Рік тому +2

    If the dragon riders create boats that can act as landing platforms for their dragons...they will have invented the aircraft carrier on Kaimere and could forge a dragon rider empire....

  • @Storm-crow13
    @Storm-crow13 Рік тому +2

    Rewatching and at 3:02 that little guy in the top left, that looks like a little silent one. 5 days until I get to find out if this means the Silent Ones are a remnant of the First Dynasty.

  • @tnevy511
    @tnevy511 5 місяців тому +1

    Titan Crows: If only the guys could see me now!
    Dragons: Become Feral.
    Titan Crows: This is either really good or bad.

  • @travisgould5423
    @travisgould5423 Рік тому +1

    Nice, I even made a pick that the dragons came to the known world and defeated the Uktan.

  • @murilocorrea9360
    @murilocorrea9360 Рік тому +3

    This episode reached ALL my expectations and some more! Great episode!
    NOW DO THE PERMIAN CONTINENT🤬

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +1

      Thank you, and can't wait! That will have larger and more homogenized fauna, and a lot more from the Permian Dynasty itself as it was barely impacted by the dynastic extinction

    • @murilocorrea9360
      @murilocorrea9360 Рік тому

      @@TalesofKaimere hahaha take your time man, your work is great! Once I'm in a better financial position hopefully I'll sponsor an episode some day, your work gives me some much needed escapism and I always eagerly await a new episode!

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому

      @@murilocorrea9360 Thank you so much I appreciate it!

  • @brastionskywarrior6951
    @brastionskywarrior6951 Рік тому +2

    Coordinated dragon riders could very well pose a threat to the known world similar to that of the cha’kati (apologies to that people for butchering their name)
    They had their horses, but these people have a weapon even more revolutionary. Since they can more easily solve the issue of fortifications.
    They probably wouldnt have the numbers to conquer the whole known world but they could probably establish a kingdom. Becoming dragon lords over an unfortunate subject population.
    Although given the timing of the introduction of modern (even just rifle technology alone) technology to kaimere they might have missed their opportunity

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +1

      Oh absolutely! Dragons would have little difficulty with conventional means of defense for Kaimerans

  • @chheinrich8486
    @chheinrich8486 Рік тому +3

    I just had an excellent idea for a fan fiction, what if kaimere and the assembly exist in star trek and never go public after first contact with the vulcans, and then lets say either under kirk or picard, the enterprise goes to Explorer the Sektor of the galaxy where kaimere is located and because the assembly had knowledge where kaimere is,
    they snuck a federation ensign that is also a member of the assembly on the enterprise

  • @chancegivens9390
    @chancegivens9390 Рік тому +3

    Absolutely fantastic!! This is and will remain the best speculative evolution project in my mind, and many others I'm shure!

  • @chancegivens9390
    @chancegivens9390 Рік тому +1

    Also I know others have said it, but in my personal opinion, these are the coolest dragons I've ever seen.

  • @barybarsboldia197
    @barybarsboldia197 Рік тому +2

    Did you choose the venomous therosaphalians to make this so kaimere had is own Australia but this is crazy an I love it lol

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому

      Just seemed like a fun way to work out the spitting venom. Glad you enjoyed!

    • @rylanbrewer3320
      @rylanbrewer3320 Рік тому

      Kaimere is australia the planet but permian island is like kaimeres mostly auatealia

  • @insiranomecriativoaqui6480
    @insiranomecriativoaqui6480 Рік тому +3

    Come to the Permian Islands, we have:
    -big bird
    -a bunch of crocs
    -not godzilla
    -what da dog doin
    -fucking dragons
    -and much more

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +4

      An excellent summary. For international copyright reasons, I appreciate you stressing that it is not, in fact, Godzilla.

  • @dudotolivier6363
    @dudotolivier6363 Рік тому +1

    That was an AMAZING EPISODE !!!!!
    All the creatures were amazing and facisnating !!!!

  • @matthewschuchardt684
    @matthewschuchardt684 Рік тому +4

    A truly amazing episode this time around:) I really enjoyed the design of the saber jackals and surprisingly enough the dragons. I will admit I am a fan of the European style dragon more than wyvern, but these were great. :)
    I really hope we get actual dragon riders soon and I can’t wait to hear how this culture evolved and changes the structure of the society in the Premier islands.
    On a different note, would be possible to get more information on the domesticated animals of the Permian islands ? In particular, are the stallion birds, domesticated, and used as writing minutes?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +3

      Thanks and I’m glad you enjoyed! Working out the dragons was a ton of fun. There’s a dragonrider story in the next anthology so I’ll definitely be talking about it later this year! They don’t have a ton of domesticates but do have some basics. Not sure if the stallion birds will be domesticates yet but they’re on the table!

  • @masterbug8000
    @masterbug8000 Рік тому +1

    Wow now there are dragons I can literally relate to more then in other media

  • @theoheinrich529
    @theoheinrich529 Рік тому +1

    i got excited when i saw "beyond the known world" and clicked immediately

  • @OviraptorFan
    @OviraptorFan Рік тому +3

    Wow this episode was a true treat to see! It’s so nice to see a place where non-mammalian therapsids still dominate! I do have some questions about the Permian Islands though.
    Do any dicynodonts remain in this region? Perhaps being small burrowers like diictodon was in the Permian, or maybe being semi aquatic like hippos. Speaking of which, does the fully marine dicynodont trace its ancestry to these islands or does it originate from the Permian continent?
    Are there any species of Venyukovioid-derived therapsids around? Species like Suminia were arboreal and specialized herbivores, likely feeding on leaves and twigs. If they do still persist on the Permian Islands, are they mostly relegated to niche akin to Tree Sloths both on earth and in the known world? If they are absent from the islands, do they persist elsewhere?
    Do any varieties of Archosauromorphs descended from Permian Stock persist? One notable example was Archosaurus itself, a three meter long Proterosuchid native to Russia and Poland. While that guy was by far the largest Archosauromorph of that time, others do exist like Aenigmastropheus of Tanzania and Protorosaurus of Germany and Great Britain. If any of these early Archosauromorphs persist, what kinds of niches do they hold?
    And finally, do any other kinds of Permian reptiles persist? Groups like the gliding Weigeltisaurids, early Ichthyosauromorhs(who were determined to have been around at least by the late Permian by recent studies iirc), as well as the Parareptiles like Pareiasaurs and Procolophonoids. We know about the Ardzhu, so do any other members of its group persist in these islands as well or did they originate from somewhere else like the Permian Continent?
    Sorry if this is a lot, I’m just really fascinated by this ecosystem and I’m hoping to learn more about it!

  • @fraan9002
    @fraan9002 Рік тому +3

    One of the best videos so far Keenan, always happy to learn more about the outermost regions of the Known World, congratulations!
    One question, since the origin of the Permian Islands and the Permian Continent is linked to the Arctic Continent, can we assume that the fauna and flora of the latter also largely come from the Permian Harvest?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +3

      Thank you! There will be a mix of first dynasty and permian dynasty descendants, but being isolated for 200+ million years, will be very distinct.

  • @tootbender6935
    @tootbender6935 Рік тому +1

    I don't even WANT to think about how horrifying it would be if the witches DID give their dragons airsacs/hollowbones! Dragon Apocalypse AU?

  • @NobodieZ26
    @NobodieZ26 Рік тому +1

    Amazing work on these fantastic creatures.

  • @jeffreyseamons5514
    @jeffreyseamons5514 Рік тому +2

    I love your stuff. It's so well thought out. The way you way you work natural ecology together with fantasy to create unique creatures is fascinating. I wish I could worldbuild as well as you do. I'd be able to run some of the best D&D games of all time.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому

      Thank you so much! Love me some D&D I definitely want to put together some sort of Kaimere RPG down the road.

    • @jeffreyseamons5514
      @jeffreyseamons5514 Рік тому

      @@TalesofKaimere I'll be waiting patiently to see what you come up with. I've dabbled in a little game design myself (but honestly, what game master hasn't)

  • @iliacdeleon1065
    @iliacdeleon1065 Рік тому +1

    Imagine if these dragons evolved their venom to be flammable and would ignite when exposed to oxygen like the deathgripper's acid blasts from How to Train Your Dragon 3

  • @MrT_Rex
    @MrT_Rex Рік тому +4

    14:45 look at all those creatures !! They came from the Middle Earth or what ?!
    16:45 WTF IS THIS ?!🤩🤨😵

  • @indominusanimations3584
    @indominusanimations3584 2 місяці тому

    Would definitely love to know more about the Sloth Croc! By far my favourite kaimerian megafauna! 😁

  • @matteorossi8240
    @matteorossi8240 Рік тому +2

    23:44 If they reach the know world, Who would win in a 1v1 fight between a giant feral dragon and a robust monarch megaraptoran?

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +3

      Definitely the megaraptoran. Dragons at their largest might hit 2 tons, whereas megaraptorans can reach 8. Dragon venom would have impacts, but it isn't nearly as potent against archosaurs as therapsids. The dragon could do some damage with its venom, but if it got taken to ground, it would be over pretty quickly.

    • @matteorossi8240
      @matteorossi8240 Рік тому +1

      @@TalesofKaimere well, at least the teropods still the Kings for the next milion years🦖👑🗿

  • @stefanmoorejr
    @stefanmoorejr Рік тому +1

    Titan crows:A menace to the skies, death walks on broken wings, The singular most powerful pterosaur to ever exist
    Dragons: *I missed the part where that's my problem*
    This makes me curious, whats('s?) on the continent

  • @lincolngravemann682
    @lincolngravemann682 Рік тому +2

    Since some witches controlled fire in the known world did any enchant their dragons to do the same? And does the island of Meridia have a beacon

  • @noahcreutziger7690
    @noahcreutziger7690 Рік тому +1

    This was an amazing and highly exciting episode! I can't wait to see what happens in the anthology, and what creatures we'll find on the jurassic islands!
    For some reason every time i think of the jurassic islands, that thing you said the giga should be in the Jurassic World Dominion review keeps coming to my head, "a giant semiaquatic carcharodontosaurid", only I'm imagining it to be a derived allosauroid. I'm also imagining a bunch of other stuff but I'll see what you come up with for this region!

  • @al-rexgamingparty7875
    @al-rexgamingparty7875 Рік тому +1

    Great video, maybe one of my favorites. Just one thing I want to know is the sloth croc based on godzilla cause they look so similar it's uncanny

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +2

      Thank you!
      For legal reasons, I have to answer no. It is entirely coincidental.
      For illegal reasons, yes. It's definitely based on [REDACTED]

  • @EJinSkyrim
    @EJinSkyrim Рік тому +1

    I am... SO happy. I don't think I stopped grinning the entire way through this episode, AND! Get to the end and find out the Jurassic Islands are in the works? Oh heck yes.
    Some day... Some day I will have enough creature art capability to make my own worldbuilding channel and join the fun. Right now, I must Learn. Seriously though, every episode you put up inspires me more. We same-brained on therapsid dragons (and roos, to my surprise! though mine are dicynodont-based) but the sheer diversity of fauna that can come from the kernel of "Permian Survivors" is just fabulous. So much hype for the Whispers anthology.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +1

      So glad to hear it! This put a big ol smile on my face

  • @Alien_Evolution
    @Alien_Evolution Рік тому

    I don't have much to say, but the Eborfeltherians look great. The excavating boar and spitting panther especially.

  • @yanderebeef5450
    @yanderebeef5450 Рік тому

    I remember a long time ago when I jokingly asked about dragons and you answered a yes.
    This has been a fun series to follow back then and now.

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому +1

      Haha heck yeah glad you’re enjoying the trip!

  • @seanessdracosaurus2793
    @seanessdracosaurus2793 Рік тому +3

    First take us to the Jurassic isle :> plz
    2 amazing work

  • @leoornstein3963
    @leoornstein3963 Рік тому +2

    Hey Keenan, I think you forgot one dragon species.

  • @transnewt
    @transnewt 7 місяців тому

    its amazing that, despite multiple lineages evolving the "hopping biped" form, only one has ever grown large.
    i understand why, its innefficient without extreme specialization, its slow to start, and competition *exists*, so its only in near perfect conditions that its really viable, but once you have the adaptation you are the most efficient, most agile, and fastest traveler around.

    • @transnewt
      @transnewt 7 місяців тому

      im not joking. roos get more efficient at higher speeds, and where quadrapeds have to slow down to turn roos can change hop angle *rapidly*
      they even have the benefits of bipediality!
      the only problems are faced in rougher terrain and picking up speed, which can be big issues, but on the open flat prairie and deserts hopping animals already thrive?
      no issue!

  • @alghoulaj7172
    @alghoulaj7172 Рік тому +1

    I'll be damend if this ain't the highest peak yet! Thank you a decillion times for giving us an absolutely perfect episode, and some of the best news I ever heard : The Jurassic Island, the Permian dynasty... This is going to be Glorious my friend. I knew since day One that Kaimere is an amazing place. But.. Well, I got a bit inspired from Kaimere with my OC... Sorry? I didn't publish it, but I would if you do give me your permission.

  • @joshuagonzalez4183
    @joshuagonzalez4183 Рік тому +1

    Badass yet freakin Amazing!

  • @MrEmilable
    @MrEmilable Рік тому

    was gonna ask about the jurassic island but,
    OHHH BOI that ending got me hyped,

  • @zakaryloreto6526
    @zakaryloreto6526 22 дні тому

    Super sized synapsid dragons!? Yes please! (Even though they are more akin to wyverns)

  • @StevenVargas-pn2ie
    @StevenVargas-pn2ie Рік тому

    I love your iteration of dragons some of my favorite up their with the dragons of the dragon slayer codex!

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому

      Thank you so much! Quite high praise Sawyer's got some incredible stuff!

  • @Dylan-Hooton
    @Dylan-Hooton Рік тому +3

    Jurassic Island? I wonder what lives here! ^_^

  • @dudotolivier6363
    @dudotolivier6363 Рік тому +1

    The rumor about the tribe of new dragons riders isn't a rumor. It's an complete REALITY !
    And the story of one of these riders from this very isolated island of the Permian Island, who itself is already a very isolated place, will be the main focus of one of Keenan's next Anthology stories !
    If it's mentionend here as a speculative info, it's because that was said from the perspective all the Assembly naturalist, not from the common God-like perspective Keenan usually give to us.

  • @lucassmith992
    @lucassmith992 Рік тому +1

    I’m absolutely in love with this video, easily one of the top 5 of yours. I’m especially interested in it because in my world project, dinosaurs are a modern animal that evolved separately on a different far off continent, so my worlds prehistory was ruled by “Permian” creatures like synapsids and therapsids. There was never any sort of massive and cataclysmic extinction event however, so these creatures went on to evolve into their modern forms such as mammals. But yeah, this rules dude🤙🏼😆

    • @TalesofKaimere
      @TalesofKaimere  Рік тому

      Heck yeah man! I loved working on this one and am super stoked to work on the dragonrider story. Trying to consider what all I can integrate as far as fauna references into a short novella lol

  • @landenriley8442
    @landenriley8442 10 місяців тому

    I could see a movie, show, and documentary about this

  • @TroyColey
    @TroyColey Рік тому

    Thank you for your hard work, we all appreciate it. You are awesome. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @eyeoftheswarm5708
    @eyeoftheswarm5708 Рік тому +1

    Permian Islands, more like dragon islands even though they’re Wyvern’s.
    Still, though, they will come to Kaimeran eventually, after all these islands cannot stay hidden forever, and when that day comes, the age of dragons begins.