I've got one on order. You get far more than leather ( not actually leather ) seats for the extra £2000. You also get.........Panoramic Sky Roof, rain sensor wipers, blind spot detector, rear cross traffic alert, 6 speaker 3D sound, rear parking camera, electric adjustable drivers seat, heated front seats, roof rails , air Conditioning with odour and pollutant filter and electrically Adjustable, Folding, Heated, Body Colour Door Mirrors. Worth paying that extra i think.
Although I have an e-Niro, I think your recommendation to go for the higher spec version is absolutely correct and was something I was going to suggest until I read your post. What a shame to miss out on all those extras for the sake of £2K. Ryan will save considerably more than that by simply switching to the MG.
If there is one mistake MG have made with this car it’s their marketing. It is so difficult to find the full EV related specs anywhere. They should be shouting about it in my opinion!!
@@EVOpinion perhaps MG will let their customers do the work for them once they own the cars. Word of mouth and social Media has to be the best way to sell any product. I think this car could give the more expensive EV's a bit of a headache. And not before time. The EV market needs to move down market price wise to encourage take up. Then we can all reap the benefits of EV ownership. The government will of course find a way to mess it all up by some form of taxation to replace the billions of lost fuel duty. But then, they are professional liars and thieves who aren't really interested in saving our environment for future generations are they? Full 20% VAT on solar panels? What a clever way to encourage folk to buy them. They should be mandatory on all new builds and VAT free. Sorry for the rant, but the hypocrisy of our democratically elected lords and masters ( our servants) really pi**** me off
The MG for sure. Plus it'll help your channel grow a lot more as it is as you said, an unknown, but if it turns out to be really really good? Then that is amazing
I think you need to wait until next Spring to see what is currently in the pipeline. By then you’ll know from reviews if the MG is any good or not and whether Nissan still even exists. You will also have more EVs to choose from. This is still early days for the UK EV market and there’s a long way to go.
There is a channel here on YouTute, named "James and Kate" that has a real world range test on the MG ZS EV. You can check it out. It seems to be more than capable to do at least 15 miles on a single charge.
@@borislavborisov82 Yeah I follow James & Kate and when I watched that video I wasn't convinced he was ok with the range. They swapped their Model S for the MG, I guess they had their reasons. "15 miles on a single charge" bit harsh lol
I am in the 2nd 1000 and have ordered the Exclusive...love that sunroof...btw the seats are 'vegan leather' :) so basically vinyl. If they keep on extending the 1st 1000 deposits thing to 1st 3000, 1st 4000 etc they may as well just reduce the rrp...I remember buying a drone about 3 or 4 years ago (Yuneec Typhoon H) and being one of the pre order ones got a few bonus extras....when it actually went on sale it had been uprated and was even better and the same price as the 'discounted' pre orders which was annoying.
I think your body language said it all, the MG excites you, in a way the Leaf doesn't. And if the MG doesn't still satisfy in a few years time, there will be something else new by then
Sadly in Australia mg only offer 5 years warranty on the ZS EV body and 8 years on the battery. All petrol MGs get 7 years. I would prefer 7 years total warranty on the EV.
I think the Chademo point is huge. And the MG is affordable for an EV. I don’t think I would be worried about long term ownership of a car like this. They must have made tons of these already in China under one of their other brands. The SUV thing doesn’t appeal to me at all, and really cars in general look stupider and stupider to me by the day. But I guess if you still want a car, this would be a good choice.
Hi Ryan, like another comment, I saw the MG at the British Motor Museum Festival of Electric Vehicles at Gaydon. I was very impressed with the apparent quality of the MG. The price seems a real bargain when you see what you're getting. I also saw a fairly new Leaf and the current ZE40 Zoe (which is in a similar price band to the MG), but it felt as though you would be getting a lot more if you went for the MG. So I think you will be making a good choice. Phil Reilly
A good choice. MG has changed the EV game. 2020 will see an explosion of amazing vehicles and charge points. I reckon MG will increase their battery size in mid 2020. They have dipped their toe into the EV market in Europe and it's been good. An EV with all those amazing specs - just streaks ahead of the rest. But why is it so well-priced compared to the rest?
I drove one the other day and thought it was excellent. The drive was very comfortable and quick. The internal and external build quality is really surprisingly good. I would definitely recommend a test drive.
Bought our Leaf and i3 from JustEvs, in Salisbury. Great people and surprisingly human for car salesman. If you don’t want the big hard sell then give these guys a shot
Don’t worry about the new MG brand, I bought a MG3 five years ago and to be honest for what I paid for it brand new it’s been one of the best cars I’ve owned. Forget about it being a British brand. They are designed in the uk but that’s it, the new ones have a 7 year warranty. My next car is going to be electric and the ZS is looking good can’t wait for a test drive.
Congrats on the new car! Same here, as soon as I heard of the offer, the level of equipment, 7 year warranty and the short delivery time, I've wen't ahead and put the deposit for my first EV.
I see a lot of people saying that the MG ZS EV is a bargain, and that it is priced too cheap and it must be too good to be true. But in reality I don't see it that way, I think a lot of the new EVs are considerably overpriced, if we consider the exchange of the engine, gearbox, radiators and everything else from an ICE, to the batteries, the motor and all other stuff the EV needs to run, there shouldn't be such a huge difference in price as we are currently seeing with most EVs on the market. for example the new ZOE, it's available without the battery cost in it, as it comes with a battery lease, and that is priced somewhere around £22,000 just for the car, but if this car was an ICE, they would have a really hard time selling it at that price. And if we compare it with the Clio which starts at around £14,000 although they aren't the same car, I would say the ZOE is very overpriced as a car already, and when we add the cost of the battery than it gets really expensive. To me it's just a mater of offer and demand, and to be honest there isn't a huge demand for electric cars, not in the 2 or 5 or 10 million per year demand, but with such a low offer in the EVs, both in numbers and variety, that the manufacturers just can charge as much as they want. In conclusion I believe the MG ZS EV is very well spec'd and not overpriced, at least with this launch offer. And the 7 year warranty just gives you some peace of mind regarding reliability.
Congratulations. I saw one at the EV Festival a few weeks back and I was impressed. When she told me it was £22k I thought that was an excellent price. You made a good choice.
Trying to find a dealership that holds MG up here in the North East Coast of Scotland is like getting blood from a stone. MGs website give notice of a dealer in Inverness, when I phoned to check about EVs I might as well of been talking to a wall that was ten feet thick.
Good choice and just think of that feeling of nostalgia every time you open the port for charging and pop that MG lid. Chinese products have proven to be just like any other product on the market.......some good some bad.....I have some I can't tell you how old and still work well today. The cooling system also makes sense and I am surprised that Nissan has not addressed the proven use of a cooling system for the batteries. Guid luck with your choice and I look forward to you doing an in depth review of the MG Zs ev. Why sacrifice the smell of a brand new ev and the nostalgic feeling every time you charge. Cost me 78 cents to go 45.6 mile in my little old 2012 Leaf.......
I would never dream of owning a EV with no thermal battery management. I mean even my vape as a form of battery thermal management. So the shear fact Nissan have released a new leaf and still left off the thermal management just beggars belief
I have a Nissan Leaf 40 Tekna. It is a great car. As you said it is well built. I have driven 22,000 miles since March ‘18. It has been faultless and is now much better with the updated BMS. However, I like the size of the MG, it is easier for me to get in and out of. I have one on order and will be selling my ‘40 soon!
Stick with the mg ive just ordered one which is the exclusive Will take delivery next march fantastic for the money with£7.000 off it's a no brainer. I bought one of the MG6 magnettes in 2013 and kept it four years and had no problems with it.
Hey man, saw this video yesterday and thought “Lol wtf? An MG? 😂😂😂😂😂 all for the sake of having a brand new car?!? Don’t do it man!!”, but then I saw about of positive comments here about your choice. So I watched a video from Auto Express lastnight about the MG, and I can’t remember the last time they were so positive about a car! If they don’t fuck things up, this car could outsell the e-Niro and Kona Electric easily.
I would hardly consider a Chinese MG unproven, SAIC build 3 to 5 million cars a year! I’d stick with the MG, I took delivery of mine in December 2021. It has exceeded expectations.
I’m quite excited for MG. I would have jumped at the car if it had a longer range option. Free wall charger in that first batch...amazing. Size of vehicle....perfect. When I make the leap to EV, 250 mile real world range is my benchmark as this is a trip I make 4-5 times a year to a place with no charging infrastructure (and to support the odd work trip). Could I get away with stopping off route? Possibly...but the convenience of that range would remove any anxiety. Good for you, and good for MG.
Hi, I currently drive a 2014 Vauxhall Ampera Electron which suits my current needs, I travel a round distance trip of 70 miles per day which is from Gloucester to Swindon and usually complete the journey purely in EV mode as I have the ability to charge my car at work. I have also placed a deposit of a £500 for an Exclusive model, although I have been quoted a March 2020 delivery. I am also not yet entirely committed to the purchase. Currently the Electron is fit for purpose, I have never suffered range anxiety and I do not need to conduct any additional journey planning when I travel any further distances. Dilemma stick or twist.
Think the perfect choice. Not currently in position to swap my plugin ioniq. But considering that the MG is less than when I bought mine 2 years ago I think they will sell like hot cakes in Nov when people like you who have bought one let's every one else know what they can get for the money and have no problems. As you say they are not yet a tried and tested brand. But that could soon change after MG does several either lost leader priced cars or lower price cars to get the reviews.
The price sells it. Plus the added range and the cooled battery. Choice between 40kWh #RapidGate Leaf or take a chance on a new MG 🤔 then I'd go for the latter. New car warranty too if anything crops up. Very tempted myself but need to wait a year or two. Good luck! (and don't park it on the pavement! 😜)
As you said at the start of the film - at that price it’s too good an offer to refuse! A £21k OTR price and delivery within a month is unmatched by any other provider so I’d say “go for it”. As yourself and others have said, BEVs are much simpler vehicles that ICE cars so I’m guessing the “unproven” element should be less of an issue, particular as it’s using battery and motor technologies that are “proven”. Let’s all hope that this move by MG helps to encourage a reduction in the cost of BEVs more generally.
I’d say go for the MG! Not sure if you did! I don’t like the Nissan for the reasons you outlined and don’t like the company after having issues with my Juke when under warranty.
My only slight worry is the mileage they say 160 but what is that in reality 140. What's its distance at motorway speeds that will be a factor as well.
this is the big question for me. I currently have a 28kWh Ioniq. It will be interesting to see what the efficieny is really like on a motorway. Without doubt the Ioniq will be more efficient. But will the larger battery give an advantage when on a motorway traveling at 125kmph? What a little concerning is that the 44.5 kWh MG has less range than comparable ~40kWh Konas, Niros, Souls etc.... Do I or don't I. TBH I've very very tempted to sell the 2018 Ioniq and buy this MG. It could be practically cost neutral..
I'm am exactly in the same boat..500 down but concerned about could quality, even though everyone say it is good but it is still my concern..7 years warranty also proves some points though...
I ordered mine a couple of weeks ago, due to get it in March, I got the £7000 off and they are still offering it. Basically, like all the new EVs, the waiting times are only getting longer. The eNero waiting list went from 6 months to 18 months in 3 months. I'm happy to wait until March. 20 plate and time to get the charger fitted
The new Zoe will be the winner. I will be incredibly surprised if it isn’t. There are too many large SUVs. Especially on our local narrow lanes. The new Zoe has everything at a great price battery owned.
Take a look at the small print as the warranty has an awful lot of exclusions, several people have rust problems which I’m lead to believe aren’t cover unless it’s rusted through. Bit late then!
I think the deal that they are offering is a good one. Between the government and MG (or whatever Chinese company it is) they are pretty well covering a large part of the depreciation. In a few years, after the incentives have gone away, the resale value of that car will be comparable to the price you paid for it (before VAT of course). If they were offering this car in Canada with the same incentives I think it would be my choice rather than waiting for the Kona. I say go for it, it's available and it saves the effort you would have to put in to find a decent used Leaf.
I'd give the MG a go Ryan. It's by far and away the best value that any company are going to offer in the EV sector. Like you, my biggest concern is the charging infrastructure. I've a 2014 Leaf and am hoping that if the worst thing happens I can buy an adaptor, but I'd not buy a new car without CCS.
I've had a deposit down too since the offer was announced. Your videos had been convincing me otherwise though - that a 24kwh Leaf was probably all the car we needed for local running about, and would be reliable enough to last us ages. Will see what I think once the dealers actually get demo cars in to drive. Most annoying part of the spec is that you only get roof rails on the top model - that's what helps make it a viable family trip / holiday car for me!
Like many people I think your reservation about the qualty is skewed by remembrance of the British made MG's by Rover/BL. As you say, it's a new car so let's wait to see what the quality, and more important customer service, is. My experience with a Chinese TV in South Africa, was superb. After four and a half years, it went wrong. They could not repair it and they gave me the total of the purchase price back. Cannot fault that.
I’d never heard of the MG until I saw your video, so firstly thanks for bringing it to my attention. I’ll be honest, I’ve just had an i3s on test for 3 days, loved it and will be placing an order this week. But, my wife is really keen on an EV, doesn’t want to spend BMW money and wants conventional doors and more space so have to say that the MG looks a really good option for us. We’ve had an MG many moons ago and wasn’t impressed with the quality but it was a long time ago and it’s definitely worth a serious look, especially at that price point. It looks great IMO and with that warranty I think you should consider it over the leaf, if the initial reviews are right then it could be a great buy. Thanks again for the video, you’ve just opened a new world of possibility for us!!
Having bought a Rover I am a bit worried about MG. It's because you never know if they'll be around for much time. If things don't go that well will they not pack up and leave ? I think Nissan would be the save choice but still given the fact that it's electric maybe there won't be many problems with the MG. I do expect some though as I don't think they have the build quality or the experience of Nissan. Their battery tech seems to be better though.
I chose model 3. Scrapingly, just about, almost barely. But I know if I buy something else I will always want that. I know because last year I bought a 30kwh Leaf which I never intended to do but my other car let me down and had to go. MG... is an SUV. I hate SUVS. Big time. Can’t deal with a though owning one. And then there’s no reach on the steering wheel. So that was a good bye. I really would want to not spend £37k on a car it’s stupid. It sadly that is the only one that will make me actually happy.
I’ve put a deposit down too for the exclusive in red. I popped in the dealer to have a look at the petrol version and it’s a gorgeous red. The interior was very good and I thought excellent boot space. Slightly less in the EV with the seats down. One thing I will say is my dealer has told me MG have said to them they will be the first or one of the first in the country to get a demo car and that’s not arriving until October! So unless they expect to buy it without a test drive can’t imagine many having their hands on it in September? I say go for it. The biggest complaints about the petrol MG was it’s engines but that element is out of the way now. There was some issues with rust ( one guy even created a website about the hassles he’s had ) but I’m hoping the quality control will have been ironed out with the petrol model. For me it’s an EV that ticks almost every box ( a little more range and towing would have been good ) and it’s time for me to jump in I feel for my first EV!
You're taking the right steps Ryan. Test drive the MG when you can, check the real world highway range - hopefully not too far off that of the LEAF 40. Thermal management should help battery life last longer than the LEAF, but in the mild UK that's not a huge issue anyway. The key advantage there is having no charge throttling, and thus consistently quick charging times whatever use case you occasionally ask of it. Have a look at general reliability ratings on all the recent MG models since SAIC ownership. It's likely not an issue, but having that info may give you some peace of mind. Take the test drive and see which of the two is more livable for your family overall. The used LEAF 40 prices won't change too much over the coming months, so take your time to make the right decision. Keep up the great work.
I've had my 40 kWh tekna for 4months now and for me I love it. I'm aware of the rapid gate issues. But for me and my lifestyle it suits me fine. However if I was deciding now knowing that there's a car out there that's alot cheaper and similar spec I would be happy to buy it. Go for it Ryan and if we meet up sometime at an EV event we can kick each others tyres and debate the merits of each others choices.
Go with the MG the way it is equipped it is the better choice. Nissan just has not kept up. The MG has a lot of up to date features and the price point makes it a nobrainer.
Go for the MG ! You will kick yourself if you don't, and miss out at this price! But, if you are intending running a car for up to ten years! beg borrow or steal the extra money for the top model please!!! When you look at the value of what you get. Remember quality is remembered longer after price is forgotten! Raid the kids savings or something, you can find it! Can't wait for your review!!
Dont go down the Nissan path. Its Chademo - no active cooling - essentially the same chasis that already have - and Nissan is not treating their customers well. We can't get the MG at the continent yet - but don't worry about the Chinese. As long as the NCAP is OK I doubt you will see more issues than with a Nissan. You might need to tolerate a bit more hard plastic - a little more rattle - but at that price go for the MG. And the Chinese build quite many European branded cars now - for that matter a lot of branded consumer items that you would expect to be of Western origin. Personally I dug deep and my dream car has been outside my house now for a week - Model 3 Long Range awd - but that is at another price level.... cant stop smiling....
Perhaps things are different in mainland Europe, but I think Chademo will be around in the UK for quite a while yet, as there are a lot of Leafs about over here. I think the fact that the new BP Chargemaster 150 kW chargers that have just started rolling out in the UK have both Chademo and CCS supports my point. It’s only Ionity AFAIK that are only supporting CCS going forward. Also I’m not sure active (liquid) cooling as used in the MG is as great as people claim - for one thing it’s an extra complication that requires extra maintenance and for another, what is the risk of coolant getting into your battery pack and causing major problems?
@@davidprescott7463 Sure the old Chademo chargers (usually combo with CCS and AC) will remain - but the new chargers like Ionity are CCS only. All the destination chargers are of course type 2 and can be used by EV's. I dont think you risk having no rapid chargers by choosing a Leaf - Chademo just wont be that widespread as CCS and when replaced they likely wont be combo chargers anymore... unless Nissan starts to invest (as if).
The Chinese MG's have still been designed / developed in Longbridge (Birmingham) to get that European product feel and then manufactured in China. The petrol version of this car has been out for approx 18 months in the UK, and the battery supplier (CATL) produce the cells for the China manufactured BMW PHEVs, along with the 7 year warranty. A work colleague has a petrol MG ZS (paid 18k! !!) And he's very happy with the car. So for myself (also a leaf owner with a paid deposit) all the important stuff I'm worried about I can address, so it comes down to having a test drive - seeing what the final production cars are like, getting the final spec (does it have a heat pump for cabin heating, delayed charge scheduling etc) and seeing what the first full reviews are like to confirm the initial good impression is still correct. I'm confident I'll like the final car (as the black pre prod version at Gaydon was surprisingly impressive) - it's just the final test drive to confirm it i do actually like it.
I remember the MG badging shed at Cowley. Now it isn’t even made there. It might be a good car for all I know. Not that MGs were particularly back in the day
ive been holding out for rear wheel drive, and a heat pump for beter hvac in the cars, the kia soul electric for Canada does have a heat pump.(close to 10% more effecent in heating and cooling)
Hi Ryan I also have a deposit down and have been told I am in the first dozen to roll onto the road very soon. I'm torn at the minute as it has no heat pump, no app, no charge or pre heat function. It's all analog no battery % display. I'm very unsure. What do you think about these points? Also there is a facebook group run by James & Kate.... get involved 👍😉
Ryan go MG. I got my £500 on the order book for a red Exclusive it was a no brainer as I have a £500 deposit on an eNiro since Feb 17th and the order form said a delivery date of 17th July but I've still haven't go anything more than a vague indication of delivery sometime in 2019. Since I was told I'd be given 1 to 2 months notice of delivery for a similar-sized and spec'ed car (other than battery capacity and range) why should I wait and pay £10,000 more for the Kia with the early order discount? Even without the extra £3,500 discount is it really worth paying £7,500 for 100 miles extra range?
I share your wariness. The old adage "if it seems to good to be true...." is nagging at the back of my mind. The very idea that we would put down deposits for cars we've not seen would have been laughable until recently. Another change that Tesla has brought to the market. Personally I'm more interested in the VW ID next Summer but I'm looking forward to seeing what you make of whichever car you buy.
Hi Ryan, we’re big fans of your channel and were hoping you and your knowledgeable subscribers might be able to help with our dilemma. We’ve just sold our 24kWh Leaf (we loved it and it suited 95% of our driving needs over the past couple of years but we wanted a bit more range) and are now in the process of deciding between a 40kWh Leaf and the MG Vs EV (deposit paid). The Leaf we’ve found is a Jan 2018 ex-demo model from an official Nissan dealership with ~5500 miles and has only been registered with them (2018 plate). They’re offering a very good deal of £20K for the car, and of course it still has most of the the manufacturer’s warranty intact. We love the Leaf and it’s a tried and trusted car. However, we also fancy trying the new but as yet unproven MG. Like you, do we upgrade to the 40kWh Leaf which will no doubt suit 100% of our driving needs or get the new MG for only £3.5K more (we’ve opted for executive model)? Any thoughts from you or your esteemed readers would be much appreciated!
As a fellow leaf owner (30 kWh), I have been thinking what my next car would be eventually. When the MG ZS EV was announced, it did seem an interesting car. However, as you say, it is unproven and there are question marks about it being raised such as whether or not it has charge and heating timers built in, will there be an app, do the cars rust in the 1st year etc? I would suggest you try and find out whether the MG has the features you really need in an EV or not, then take a test drive and go from there. The 40 kWh Leaf you are looking at sounds like a good deal though, and is more of a known quantity than the MG. I really can’t advise you what to do without knowing your particular circumstances, but after much consideration I came to the conclusion I would be best to go for the 40 kWh Leaf at some stage as I can be fairly confident it will be a solid car, especially now the rapid gate issues have been apparently resolved. Hope that’s some help.
Sorry David prescott, I only just saw your reply. Thanks for the thoughtful answer. You’ve followed pretty much the same line of thinking as we have. Picking the Leaf up this week!
I've watched about 6 video on MG EV, 3 of them have been test driven. Most I've watched have been very positive first impression reviews, especially with top model. IF MG can mass produce this SUV EV then in my opinion its going to be first mass ordered car other than TESLA. Unlike Niro/Kona. I hope it sells exsteamily well.
Go for the MG as Nissan are loosing interest in the car products that have been a market leader but no more. It is looking likly that battery warranty may be come an issue before my Leaf 8 years is up as it has lost 12% SOH at 24000. I understand all the MG cars on show and at the dealers at this time are slightly diffent from the production vehicles on a ship and due to land very soon so I would say try to get a look at some of the models off this first boat before you commit to handing over your cash.
It seems small minded but the lack of climate control in the MG rules it out for me. It’s one of those luxuries we’ve got used to that makes driving pleasant rather than continually fiddling with the heater. Also did someone say it has a filament heater rather than a heat pump. This will hit the range if so. I’m a 30kW Leaf owner. Not sure if I’d buy one of the latest ones. Although the Ioniq often gets forgotten. Thermal battery management and ccs charging. About the same size as the leaf and proven quality.
The MG is great value, however I am surprised at your choice after watching your review from 6 months ago in which you didn't appear to be overly enthralled, especially around the ncap rating
I'm with you about the MG, Ryan. The price is right. The badge is largely irrelevant. Yes, it's made in China so the build quality is a concern, but the Chinese are making more EV's than any other country, therefore they know how to build them properly. Sure, it's unproven, and you will be an early adopter, therefore you will have the disadvantages that the wrinkles will need ironing out, and that upgraded technologies might be implemented quickly. It's a very tempting price, however, and that would make me tolerant of having to spend money on it, once the warranties have run out. One thing I'm not clear about is the range of the car. We need a guaranteed 120+ miles of midwinter range, to cover our essential journeys with a scarcity of decent charging stations around here. So in reality, we're looking out for 180 to 200 miles of claimed range. In terms of price, we would be considering either a Zoe or the MG, since we have no family to carry around, and any decent small electric car at the right price would suit our needs, if it has an endurance to suit our needs. A large EV is also impractical here, because of limited on-street parking spaces. And a 40 kWh Leaf is barely on the radar these days, partly because I'm not a fan of the shape, partly because of the price, but also because of the very real concerns about the lack of Customer Care. Thanks for asking, and thanks for the video.
Hey EV Opinion, Would love to hear your opinion on a choice i have at the moment, being offered a company car either the MG ZS EV or the TESLA M3. the M3 is with me paying £250 extra/month. This extra is after the 0% BIK from next April 2020/2021. Which would you pick?& why ? Would very much appreciate your thoughts on this.
Hope the MG works well for you. Looking forward to the purchased review. Nissan and Evgo just announced a new Chademo build out in the US. For those of us in cooler climates, the liquid cooled battery is a bit less of a concern. Its rarely over 32 degrees in Chicago and much of the year under 10 C. The Plus has much better heat capacity then the 40, so looking at review in the UK to see how those experiences stand up. The Chinese vehicle I would like to see in the US is the NIO ES 8 as with 3 teenagers, I really need a 3rd row if taking the whole family more than 10 miles away. For 4, the Leaf is a perfectly sized car. We have done a few 500+ mile road trips in the new Plus (with runs over 240 miles on a charge) without issue. (thermal, range, or otherwise). The new charge capacity is also very good. I have charged on some of the new Chademo's being installed at a rate of over 70 KW/hour. Happy hunting with the new car, how ever you choose.
Tempted, yes. Who wouldn’t be at that price. But like you I’m concerned about the newness of the brand. Plus my personal needs haven’t changed, the range is just not there for me.
OMG. MG?? They have a TERRIBLE reputation for quality, right there with Renault and Peugeot. I think you're going to be in a world of hurt (and post purchase dissonance) with this decision, dude.
Appalling68 , strange, the reviews I’ve just read have them well above most of the German makers in terms of reliability. Some of the older engines weren’t so good, but that doesn’t really apply here
I have a PHEV Outlander, my Mitsubishi dealer is also an MG Dealer so I took a look at the ZS - Very Surprised! My PHEV is nearly twice the price of the ZS and the quality difference was negligible! Also they give me an MG3 when I service the PHEV and it's really fun to drive (ICE aside) - Forget what you've heard; things have changed. MG blinked first, now I think the race is really on.
I've got one on order. You get far more than leather ( not actually leather ) seats for the extra £2000. You also get.........Panoramic Sky Roof, rain sensor wipers, blind spot detector, rear cross traffic alert, 6 speaker 3D sound, rear parking camera, electric adjustable drivers seat, heated front seats, roof rails , air Conditioning with odour and pollutant filter and electrically Adjustable, Folding, Heated, Body Colour Door Mirrors.
Worth paying that extra i think.
Although I have an e-Niro, I think your recommendation to go for the higher spec version is absolutely correct and was something I was going to suggest until I read your post. What a shame to miss out on all those extras for the sake of £2K. Ryan will save considerably more than that by simply switching to the MG.
holdontoyourwig I’m shook 😮that’s a helluva lot of stuff your getting!! I will be watching out for this car.
Exactly. Down played how much extra you get. It seemed a no brainer.
If there is one mistake MG have made with this car it’s their marketing. It is so difficult to find the full EV related specs anywhere. They should be shouting about it in my opinion!!
@@EVOpinion perhaps MG will let their customers do the work for them once they own the cars. Word of mouth and social Media has to be the best way to sell any product. I think this car could give the more expensive EV's a bit of a headache. And not before time. The EV market needs to move down market price wise to encourage take up. Then we can all reap the benefits of EV ownership. The government will of course find a way to mess it all up by some form of taxation to replace the billions of lost fuel duty. But then, they are professional liars and thieves who aren't really interested in saving our environment for future generations are they? Full 20% VAT on solar panels? What a clever way to encourage folk to buy them. They should be mandatory on all new builds and VAT free. Sorry for the rant, but the hypocrisy of our democratically elected lords and masters ( our servants) really pi**** me off
The MG is looking like THE EV bargain of the moment. With its pricing it really could be the car that takes EVs mainstream.
LiamE69 if they can also produce enough to meet demand then I think you’re right.
The MG is a great choice for the money I was very impressed by the build quality at the EV Festival the other week!
The MG for sure. Plus it'll help your channel grow a lot more as it is as you said, an unknown, but if it turns out to be really really good? Then that is amazing
I think you need to wait until next Spring to see what is currently in the pipeline. By then you’ll know from reviews if the MG is any good or not and whether Nissan still even exists. You will also have more EVs to choose from. This is still early days for the UK EV market and there’s a long way to go.
The MG has to be the best bargain around at the minute but I would like to see some real world examples of its range before committing.
There is a channel here on YouTute, named "James and Kate" that has a real world range test on the MG ZS EV. You can check it out. It seems to be more than capable to do at least 15 miles on a single charge.
@@borislavborisov82 Yeah I follow James & Kate and when I watched that video I wasn't convinced he was ok with the range. They swapped their Model S for the MG, I guess they had their reasons. "15 miles on a single charge" bit harsh lol
I am in the 2nd 1000 and have ordered the Exclusive...love that sunroof...btw the seats are 'vegan leather' :) so basically vinyl.
If they keep on extending the 1st 1000 deposits thing to 1st 3000, 1st 4000 etc they may as well just reduce the rrp...I remember buying a drone about 3 or 4 years ago (Yuneec Typhoon H) and being one of the pre order ones got a few bonus extras....when it actually went on sale it had been uprated and was even better and the same price as the 'discounted' pre orders which was annoying.
I think your body language said it all, the MG excites you, in a way the Leaf doesn't. And if the MG doesn't still satisfy in a few years time, there will be something else new by then
Yeah it is already available it is called Tesla hahaha
When a price is too good to be true, it normally is.
🤔 Bit sceptical about the actual quality of the components in an all-Chinese EV... It will be interesting to see how they work in real life?
MG are confident in their cars as they offer a seven year warranty. I don't think Nissan do?! 🤔
Sadly in Australia mg only offer 5 years warranty on the ZS EV body and 8 years on the battery. All petrol MGs get 7 years. I would prefer 7 years total warranty on the EV.
Take a look at the small print as the warranty has an awful lot of exclusions, several people have rust problems.
I think the Chademo point is huge. And the MG is affordable for an EV. I don’t think I would be worried about long term ownership of a car like this. They must have made tons of these already in China under one of their other brands.
The SUV thing doesn’t appeal to me at all, and really cars in general look stupider and stupider to me by the day. But I guess if you still want a car, this would be a good choice.
+1 on the Chademo point. Here in the backwaters of Australia, Chademo is the Beta-cord to the CCS' VHS!
Hi Ryan, like another comment, I saw the MG at the British Motor Museum Festival of Electric Vehicles at Gaydon. I was very impressed with the apparent quality of the MG. The price seems a real bargain when you see what you're getting.
I also saw a fairly new Leaf and the current ZE40 Zoe (which is in a similar price band to the MG), but it felt as though you would be getting a lot more if you went for the MG.
So I think you will be making a good choice.
Phil Reilly
Phil Reilly cheers Phil. It does seem that way and although I’m a little nervous about longevity the warranty seems to show MGs confidence in it 👍
A good choice. MG has changed the EV game. 2020 will see an explosion of amazing vehicles and charge points. I reckon MG will increase their battery size in mid 2020. They have dipped their toe into the EV market in Europe and it's been good. An EV with all those amazing specs - just streaks ahead of the rest. But why is it so well-priced compared to the rest?
I drove one the other day and thought it was excellent. The drive was very comfortable and quick. The internal and external build quality is really surprisingly good. I would definitely recommend a test drive.
Bought our Leaf and i3 from JustEvs, in Salisbury. Great people and surprisingly human for car salesman. If you don’t want the big hard sell then give these guys a shot
I didn’t even know the MG existed 😳 it looks good
Don’t worry about the new MG brand, I bought a MG3 five years ago and to be honest for what I paid for it brand new it’s been one of the best cars I’ve owned. Forget about it being a British brand. They are designed in the uk but that’s it, the new ones have a 7 year warranty. My next car is going to be electric and the ZS is looking good can’t wait for a test drive.
Already put my deposit down for one of the first 1000 cars, an Exclusive in bright red. Can't wait for delivery!
Congrats on the new car!
Same here, as soon as I heard of the offer, the level of equipment, 7 year warranty and the short delivery time, I've wen't ahead and put the deposit for my first EV.
I see a lot of people saying that the MG ZS EV is a bargain, and that it is priced too cheap and it must be too good to be true.
But in reality I don't see it that way, I think a lot of the new EVs are considerably overpriced, if we consider the exchange of the engine, gearbox, radiators and everything else from an ICE, to the batteries, the motor and all other stuff the EV needs to run, there shouldn't be such a huge difference in price as we are currently seeing with most EVs on the market.
for example the new ZOE, it's available without the battery cost in it, as it comes with a battery lease, and that is priced somewhere around £22,000 just for the car, but if this car was an ICE, they would have a really hard time selling it at that price. And if we compare it with the Clio which starts at around £14,000 although they aren't the same car, I would say the ZOE is very overpriced as a car already, and when we add the cost of the battery than it gets really expensive.
To me it's just a mater of offer and demand, and to be honest there isn't a huge demand for electric cars, not in the 2 or 5 or 10 million per year demand, but with such a low offer in the EVs, both in numbers and variety, that the manufacturers just can charge as much as they want.
In conclusion I believe the MG ZS EV is very well spec'd and not overpriced, at least with this launch offer. And the 7 year warranty just gives you some peace of mind regarding reliability.
Congratulations. I saw one at the EV Festival a few weeks back and I was impressed. When she told me it was £22k I thought that was an excellent price. You made a good choice.
Trying to find a dealership that holds MG up here in the North East Coast of Scotland is like getting blood from a stone. MGs website give notice of a dealer in Inverness, when I phoned to check about EVs I might as well of been talking to a wall that was ten feet thick.
Good choice and just think of that feeling of nostalgia every time you open the port for charging and pop that MG lid.
Chinese products have proven to be just like any other product on the market.......some good some bad.....I have some I can't tell you how old and still work well today.
The cooling system also makes sense and I am surprised that Nissan has not addressed the proven use of a cooling system for the batteries.
Guid luck with your choice and I look forward to you doing an in depth review of the MG Zs ev.
Why sacrifice the smell of a brand new ev and the nostalgic feeling every time you charge.
Cost me 78 cents to go 45.6 mile in my little old 2012 Leaf.......
I would never dream of owning a EV with no thermal battery management. I mean even my vape as a form of battery thermal management. So the shear fact Nissan have released a new leaf and still left off the thermal management just beggars belief
I have a Nissan Leaf 40 Tekna. It is a great car. As you said it is well built. I have driven 22,000 miles since March ‘18. It has been faultless and is now much better with the updated BMS. However, I like the size of the MG, it is easier for me to get in and out of. I have one on order and will be selling my ‘40 soon!
I put my deposit in on the day the price was announced, & got a chance to test drive one a week later. Felt really nice to drive, can't wait for mine.
Currently have a 30kwh leaf Tekna but I've put an order in for the MG. Cooled pack and value cost.
Stick with the mg ive just ordered one which is the exclusive Will take delivery next march fantastic for the money with£7.000 off it's a no brainer. I bought one of the MG6 magnettes in 2013 and kept it four years and had no problems with it.
Hey man, saw this video yesterday and thought “Lol wtf? An MG? 😂😂😂😂😂 all for the sake of having a brand new car?!? Don’t do it man!!”, but then I saw about of positive comments here about your choice. So I watched a video from Auto Express lastnight about the MG, and I can’t remember the last time they were so positive about a car! If they don’t fuck things up, this car could outsell the e-Niro and Kona Electric easily.
I would hardly consider a Chinese MG unproven, SAIC build 3 to 5 million cars a year!
I’d stick with the MG, I took delivery of mine in December 2021. It has exceeded expectations.
I’m quite excited for MG. I would have jumped at the car if it had a longer range option. Free wall charger in that first batch...amazing. Size of vehicle....perfect.
When I make the leap to EV, 250 mile real world range is my benchmark as this is a trip I make 4-5 times a year to a place with no charging infrastructure (and to support the odd work trip). Could I get away with stopping off route? Possibly...but the convenience of that range would remove any anxiety.
Good for you, and good for MG.
The big unknown but could be a real gem. Liquid thermal control means it's going to be better than the leaf.
But is that lack of active battery management in the Leaf such a problem in British climate?
@@HenriZwols yes it is, rapid charging without battery cooling is much slower.
@@HenriZwols Lots of leaf owners are losing battery capacity quickly due to lack of management. It is a big deal.
MG all the way, battery cooled and heated , saw James & Kates demo one, fantastic features and you can actually fit a spare wheel under the boot!
Hi, I currently drive a 2014 Vauxhall Ampera Electron which suits my current needs, I travel a round distance trip of 70 miles per day which is from Gloucester to Swindon and usually complete the journey purely in EV mode as I have the ability to charge my car at work. I have also placed a deposit of a £500 for an Exclusive model, although I have been quoted a March 2020 delivery. I am also not yet entirely committed to the purchase. Currently the Electron is fit for purpose, I have never suffered range anxiety and I do not need to conduct any additional journey planning when I travel any further distances. Dilemma stick or twist.
Think the perfect choice. Not currently in position to swap my plugin ioniq. But considering that the MG is less than when I bought mine 2 years ago I think they will sell like hot cakes in Nov when people like you who have bought one let's every one else know what they can get for the money and have no problems. As you say they are not yet a tried and tested brand. But that could soon change after MG does several either lost leader priced cars or lower price cars to get the reviews.
The price sells it. Plus the added range and the cooled battery. Choice between 40kWh #RapidGate Leaf or take a chance on a new MG 🤔 then I'd go for the latter. New car warranty too if anything crops up.
Very tempted myself but need to wait a year or two. Good luck!
(and don't park it on the pavement! 😜)
Being a Chinese brand I was a bit worried about the safety of the vehicle, and looking at the ncap rating it only has a 3 star rating.
As you said at the start of the film - at that price it’s too good an offer to refuse! A £21k OTR price and delivery within a month is unmatched by any other provider so I’d say “go for it”. As yourself and others have said, BEVs are much simpler vehicles that ICE cars so I’m guessing the “unproven” element should be less of an issue, particular as it’s using battery and motor technologies that are “proven”. Let’s all hope that this move by MG helps to encourage a reduction in the cost of BEVs more generally.
I’d say go for the MG! Not sure if you did! I don’t like the Nissan for the reasons you outlined and don’t like the company after having issues with my Juke when under warranty.
Looking forward to your review after a period of ownership. Good luck 👍
thanks for the summer walk, greetings from Canada, british Columbia, hope the mg comes all the way over here!
My only slight worry is the mileage they say 160 but what is that in reality 140. What's its distance at motorway speeds that will be a factor as well.
True, what about winter and with no heat pump it will struggle with the non aerodynamic shape. Do we or dont we.
@@Scott-1000 All good questions. Hopefully highway range will be close to the LEAF 40 but with more consistent charging speeds.
this is the big question for me. I currently have a 28kWh Ioniq. It will be interesting to see what the efficieny is really like on a motorway. Without doubt the Ioniq will be more efficient. But will the larger battery give an advantage when on a motorway traveling at 125kmph? What a little concerning is that the 44.5 kWh MG has less range than comparable ~40kWh Konas, Niros, Souls etc.... Do I or don't I. TBH I've very very tempted to sell the 2018 Ioniq and buy this MG. It could be practically cost neutral..
Good luck with the new car, I hope you’re pleased with it when you receive it. Looking forward to the ownership reviews.
If the MG is sold in Florida I would definitely put it on my shoping list. It looks very good and is well equipped. Go for it! Good luck.
The MG it’s a no brainier I’m going to put my deposit down also. But I will miss my leaf 🍂🤓
Go for the MG, Water cooled battery and CCS plus the price fits your long term ownership model perfectly.
Put my £500 deposit down today based on a test drive and your reviews. Thanks so much!
I'm am exactly in the same boat..500 down but concerned about could quality, even though everyone say it is good but it is still my concern..7 years warranty also proves some points though...
I ordered mine a couple of weeks ago, due to get it in March, I got the £7000 off and they are still offering it. Basically, like all the new EVs, the waiting times are only getting longer. The eNero waiting list went from 6 months to 18 months in 3 months. I'm happy to wait until March. 20 plate and time to get the charger fitted
The new Zoe will be the winner. I will be incredibly surprised if it isn’t. There are too many large SUVs. Especially on our local narrow lanes. The new Zoe has everything at a great price battery owned.
Yes think this will slip in quietly but be an awesome car. The range of the mg is a concern for me a bit. The new zoe will not have any probs.
We need JustEVs in USA!!
Take a look at the small print as the warranty has an awful lot of exclusions, several people have rust problems which I’m lead to believe aren’t cover unless it’s rusted through. Bit late then!
I think the deal that they are offering is a good one. Between the government and MG (or whatever Chinese company it is) they are pretty well covering a large part of the depreciation. In a few years, after the incentives have gone away, the resale value of that car will be comparable to the price you paid for it (before VAT of course). If they were offering this car in Canada with the same incentives I think it would be my choice rather than waiting for the Kona. I say go for it, it's available and it saves the effort you would have to put in to find a decent used Leaf.
I'd give the MG a go Ryan. It's by far and away the best value that any company are going to offer in the EV sector. Like you, my biggest concern is the charging infrastructure. I've a 2014 Leaf and am hoping that if the worst thing happens I can buy an adaptor, but I'd not buy a new car without CCS.
Me too.....I've taken the plunge like you and put my deposit down on the MG.....an offer like this only comes along once in a blue moon.
I've had a deposit down too since the offer was announced. Your videos had been convincing me otherwise though - that a 24kwh Leaf was probably all the car we needed for local running about, and would be reliable enough to last us ages. Will see what I think once the dealers actually get demo cars in to drive.
Most annoying part of the spec is that you only get roof rails on the top model - that's what helps make it a viable family trip / holiday car for me!
Like many people I think your reservation about the qualty is skewed by remembrance of the British made MG's by Rover/BL. As you say, it's a new car so let's wait to see what the quality, and more important customer service, is. My experience with a Chinese TV in South Africa, was superb. After four and a half years, it went wrong. They could not repair it and they gave me the total of the purchase price back. Cannot fault that.
I’d never heard of the MG until I saw your video, so firstly thanks for bringing it to my attention. I’ll be honest, I’ve just had an i3s on test for 3 days, loved it and will be placing an order this week. But, my wife is really keen on an EV, doesn’t want to spend BMW money and wants conventional doors and more space so have to say that the MG looks a really good option for us. We’ve had an MG many moons ago and wasn’t impressed with the quality but it was a long time ago and it’s definitely worth a serious look, especially at that price point. It looks great IMO and with that warranty I think you should consider it over the leaf, if the initial reviews are right then it could be a great buy. Thanks again for the video, you’ve just opened a new world of possibility for us!!
Go for the extra sun roof etc. when you do eventually sell it on it will be more valuable and more stuff to show us on the channel!
Having bought a Rover I am a bit worried about MG. It's because you never know if they'll be around for much time. If things don't go that well will they not pack up and leave ?
I think Nissan would be the save choice but still given the fact that it's electric maybe there won't be many problems with the MG. I do expect some though as I don't think they have the build quality or the experience of Nissan. Their battery tech seems to be better though.
Looking forward to all the MG videos ;-)
I chose model 3. Scrapingly, just about, almost barely. But I know if I buy something else I will always want that. I know because last year I bought a 30kwh Leaf which I never intended to do but my other car let me down and had to go. MG... is an SUV. I hate SUVS. Big time. Can’t deal with a though owning one. And then there’s no reach on the steering wheel. So that was a good bye. I really would want to not spend £37k on a car it’s stupid. It sadly that is the only one that will make me actually happy.
I’ve put a deposit down too for the exclusive in red. I popped in the dealer to have a look at the petrol version and it’s a gorgeous red. The interior was very good and I thought excellent boot space. Slightly less in the EV with the seats down.
One thing I will say is my dealer has told me MG have said to them they will be the first or one of the first in the country to get a demo car and that’s not arriving until October! So unless they expect to buy it without a test drive can’t imagine many having their hands on it in September?
I say go for it. The biggest complaints about the petrol MG was it’s engines but that element is out of the way now. There was some issues with rust ( one guy even created a website about the hassles he’s had ) but I’m hoping the quality control will have been ironed out with the petrol model.
For me it’s an EV that ticks almost every box ( a little more range and towing would have been good ) and it’s time for me to jump in I feel for my first EV!
You're taking the right steps Ryan. Test drive the MG when you can, check the real world highway range - hopefully not too far off that of the LEAF 40. Thermal management should help battery life last longer than the LEAF, but in the mild UK that's not a huge issue anyway. The key advantage there is having no charge throttling, and thus consistently quick charging times whatever use case you occasionally ask of it.
Have a look at general reliability ratings on all the recent MG models since SAIC ownership. It's likely not an issue, but having that info may give you some peace of mind.
Take the test drive and see which of the two is more livable for your family overall. The used LEAF 40 prices won't change too much over the coming months, so take your time to make the right decision. Keep up the great work.
I think you have made the right decision and the mg will be a good choice for most people
Mines been on order for a month, looking forward to this like I’ve never done for a car before
I've had my 40 kWh tekna for 4months now and for me I love it. I'm aware of the rapid gate issues. But for me and my lifestyle it suits me fine. However if I was deciding now knowing that there's a car out there that's alot cheaper and similar spec I would be happy to buy it. Go for it Ryan and if we meet up sometime at an EV event we can kick each others tyres and debate the merits of each others choices.
Really pleased for you. UK MG offers are brilliant at the moment.
Go with the MG the way it is equipped it is the better choice. Nissan just has not kept up. The MG has a lot of up to date features and the price point makes it a nobrainer.
MG sounds good. I have a used LEAF but i have given consideration to the Chademo longevity as well. Time will tell. Good Luck! Cheers
I reckon you've made a good choice.
I’ve been in same situation as you , second hand e golf or new MG, I’ve put the deposit on the MG and I’m 80-90% sure that’s what I’m going for
Go for the MG ! You will kick yourself if you don't, and miss out at this price! But, if you are intending running a car for up to ten years! beg borrow or steal the extra money for the top model please!!! When you look at the value of what you get. Remember quality is remembered longer after price is forgotten! Raid the kids savings or something, you can find it! Can't wait for your review!!
Dont go down the Nissan path. Its Chademo - no active cooling - essentially the same chasis that already have - and Nissan is not treating their customers well.
We can't get the MG at the continent yet - but don't worry about the Chinese. As long as the NCAP is OK I doubt you will see more issues than with a Nissan. You might need to tolerate a bit more hard plastic - a little more rattle - but at that price go for the MG.
And the Chinese build quite many European branded cars now - for that matter a lot of branded consumer items that you would expect to be of Western origin.
Personally I dug deep and my dream car has been outside my house now for a week - Model 3 Long Range awd - but that is at another price level.... cant stop smiling....
Rene Bergqvist I’d love a m3 but at twice the price the MG just seems to tick the right boxes. 👍
Perhaps things are different in mainland Europe, but I think Chademo will be around in the UK for quite a while yet, as there are a lot of Leafs about over here. I think the fact that the new BP Chargemaster 150 kW chargers that have just started rolling out in the UK have both Chademo and CCS supports my point. It’s only Ionity AFAIK that are only supporting CCS going forward. Also I’m not sure active (liquid) cooling as used in the MG is as great as people claim - for one thing it’s an extra complication that requires extra maintenance and for another, what is the risk of coolant getting into your battery pack and causing major problems?
@@davidprescott7463 Sure the old Chademo chargers (usually combo with CCS and AC) will remain - but the new chargers like Ionity are CCS only.
All the destination chargers are of course type 2 and can be used by EV's.
I dont think you risk having no rapid chargers by choosing a Leaf - Chademo just wont be that widespread as CCS and when replaced they likely wont be combo chargers anymore... unless Nissan starts to invest (as if).
The Chinese MG's have still been designed / developed in Longbridge (Birmingham) to get that European product feel and then manufactured in China. The petrol version of this car has been out for approx 18 months in the UK, and the battery supplier (CATL) produce the cells for the China manufactured BMW PHEVs, along with the 7 year warranty.
A work colleague has a petrol MG ZS (paid 18k! !!) And he's very happy with the car.
So for myself (also a leaf owner with a paid deposit) all the important stuff I'm worried about I can address, so it comes down to having a test drive - seeing what the final production cars are like, getting the final spec (does it have a heat pump for cabin heating, delayed charge scheduling etc) and seeing what the first full reviews are like to confirm the initial good impression is still correct.
I'm confident I'll like the final car (as the black pre prod version at Gaydon was surprisingly impressive) - it's just the final test drive to confirm it i do actually like it.
I remember the MG badging shed at Cowley. Now it isn’t even made there. It might be a good car for all I know. Not that MGs were particularly back in the day
ive been holding out for rear wheel drive, and a heat pump for beter hvac in the cars, the kia soul electric for Canada does have a heat pump.(close to 10% more effecent in heating and cooling)
Hi Ryan I also have a deposit down and have been told I am in the first dozen to roll onto the road very soon. I'm torn at the minute as it has no heat pump, no app, no charge or pre heat function. It's all analog no battery % display. I'm very unsure. What do you think about these points? Also there is a facebook group run by James & Kate.... get involved 👍😉
That electric plugin looks flimsy and awkward to use
Ryan go MG. I got my £500 on the order book for a red Exclusive it was a no brainer as I have a £500 deposit on an eNiro since Feb 17th and the order form said a delivery date of 17th July but I've still haven't go anything more than a vague indication of delivery sometime in 2019. Since I was told I'd be given 1 to 2 months notice of delivery for a similar-sized and spec'ed car (other than battery capacity and range) why should I wait and pay £10,000 more for the Kia with the early order discount? Even without the extra £3,500 discount is it really worth paying £7,500 for 100 miles extra range?
I would strongly consider a range comparison as well. After all, its to get you to point A to point B and so on.
I share your wariness. The old adage "if it seems to good to be true...." is nagging at the back of my mind. The very idea that we would put down deposits for cars we've not seen would have been laughable until recently. Another change that Tesla has brought to the market. Personally I'm more interested in the VW ID next Summer but I'm looking forward to seeing what you make of whichever car you buy.
You will miss your 360deg cameras. Does this car have front parking censors? Electric folding mirrors?
Great video and good choice I liked the car when I done a early look at vid but didn’t like the charge flap, minor detail though
Health to enjoy 😊
Look forward to seeing your review of it!
Hi Ryan, we’re big fans of your channel and were hoping you and your knowledgeable subscribers might be able to help with our dilemma. We’ve just sold our 24kWh Leaf (we loved it and it suited 95% of our driving needs over the past couple of years but we wanted a bit more range) and are now in the process of deciding between a 40kWh Leaf and the MG Vs EV (deposit paid). The Leaf we’ve found is a Jan 2018 ex-demo model from an official Nissan dealership with ~5500 miles and has only been registered with them (2018 plate). They’re offering a very good deal of £20K for the car, and of course it still has most of the the manufacturer’s warranty intact.
We love the Leaf and it’s a tried and trusted car. However, we also fancy trying the new but as yet unproven MG. Like you, do we upgrade to the 40kWh Leaf which will no doubt suit 100% of our driving needs or get the new MG for only £3.5K more (we’ve opted for executive model)?
Any thoughts from you or your esteemed readers would be much appreciated!
As a fellow leaf owner (30 kWh), I have been thinking what my next car would be eventually. When the MG ZS EV was announced, it did seem an interesting car. However, as you say, it is unproven and there are question marks about it being raised such as whether or not it has charge and heating timers built in, will there be an app, do the cars rust in the 1st year etc? I would suggest you try and find out whether the MG has the features you really need in an EV or not, then take a test drive and go from there. The 40 kWh Leaf you are looking at sounds like a good deal though, and is more of a known quantity than the MG. I really can’t advise you what to do without knowing your particular circumstances, but after much consideration I came to the conclusion I would be best to go for the 40 kWh Leaf at some stage as I can be fairly confident it will be a solid car, especially now the rapid gate issues have been apparently resolved. Hope that’s some help.
Sorry David prescott, I only just saw your reply. Thanks for the thoughtful answer. You’ve followed pretty much the same line of thinking as we have. Picking the Leaf up this week!
I've watched about 6 video on MG EV, 3 of them have been test driven. Most I've watched have been very positive first impression reviews, especially with top model. IF MG can mass produce this SUV EV then in my opinion its going to be first mass ordered car other than TESLA. Unlike Niro/Kona. I hope it sells exsteamily well.
I think the MG would be better for your Chanel and the CCS system seems to be the future and the water cooled battery cooling system is way better.
Go for the MG as Nissan are loosing interest in the car products that have been a market leader but no more. It is looking likly that battery warranty may be come an issue before my Leaf 8 years is up as it has lost 12% SOH at 24000. I understand all the MG cars on show and at the dealers at this time are slightly diffent from the production vehicles on a ship and due to land very soon so I would say try to get a look at some of the models off this first boat before you commit to handing over your cash.
You lost 12% at 24000 ,Strange. I lost 5% with near 40 000km. In Canada, 1 year old.
It seems small minded but the lack of climate control in the MG rules it out for me. It’s one of those luxuries we’ve got used to that makes driving pleasant rather than continually fiddling with the heater. Also did someone say it has a filament heater rather than a heat pump. This will hit the range if so. I’m a 30kW Leaf owner. Not sure if I’d buy one of the latest ones. Although the Ioniq often gets forgotten. Thermal battery management and ccs charging. About the same size as the leaf and proven quality.
Go with the MG. better range and has a good warranty as far as I know. If they were coming to Ireland I’d be getting one.
Reread that warranty... the small print has lots of exclusions i hear.
How have you decided to fund the purchase? Are you paying for the car outright or are you looking to take it on PCP lease and why?
Great channel
I don't know but for the same money u can get a secondhand leaf 40kwh they are taking a bit of a bashing because of the new one
The MG is great value, however I am surprised at your choice after watching your review from 6 months ago in which you didn't appear to be overly enthralled, especially around the ncap rating
I'm with you about the MG, Ryan. The price is right. The badge is largely irrelevant. Yes, it's made in China so the build quality is a concern, but the Chinese are making more EV's than any other country, therefore they know how to build them properly. Sure, it's unproven, and you will be an early adopter, therefore you will have the disadvantages that the wrinkles will need ironing out, and that upgraded technologies might be implemented quickly. It's a very tempting price, however, and that would make me tolerant of having to spend money on it, once the warranties have run out.
One thing I'm not clear about is the range of the car. We need a guaranteed 120+ miles of midwinter range, to cover our essential journeys with a scarcity of decent charging stations around here. So in reality, we're looking out for 180 to 200 miles of claimed range.
In terms of price, we would be considering either a Zoe or the MG, since we have no family to carry around, and any decent small electric car at the right price would suit our needs, if it has an endurance to suit our needs. A large EV is also impractical here, because of limited on-street parking spaces. And a 40 kWh Leaf is barely on the radar these days, partly because I'm not a fan of the shape, partly because of the price, but also because of the very real concerns about the lack of Customer Care.
Thanks for asking, and thanks for the video.
Hey EV Opinion, Would love to hear your opinion on a choice i have at the moment, being offered a company car either the MG ZS EV or the TESLA M3. the M3 is with me paying £250 extra/month. This extra is after the 0% BIK from next April 2020/2021.
Which would you pick?& why ?
Would very much appreciate your thoughts on this.
Just noticed the online purchase option has now closed. Need to go through dealer now.
Hope the MG works well for you. Looking forward to the purchased review. Nissan and Evgo just announced a new Chademo build out in the US. For those of us in cooler climates, the liquid cooled battery is a bit less of a concern. Its rarely over 32 degrees in Chicago and much of the year under 10 C. The Plus has much better heat capacity then the 40, so looking at review in the UK to see how those experiences stand up. The Chinese vehicle I would like to see in the US is the NIO ES 8 as with 3 teenagers, I really need a 3rd row if taking the whole family more than 10 miles away. For 4, the Leaf is a perfectly sized car. We have done a few 500+ mile road trips in the new Plus (with runs over 240 miles on a charge) without issue. (thermal, range, or otherwise). The new charge capacity is also very good. I have charged on some of the new Chademo's being installed at a rate of over 70 KW/hour. Happy hunting with the new car, how ever you choose.
Tempted, yes. Who wouldn’t be at that price. But like you I’m concerned about the newness of the brand. Plus my personal needs haven’t changed, the range is just not there for me.
Whats wrong with the old leaf?
OMG. MG?? They have a TERRIBLE reputation for quality, right there with Renault and Peugeot. I think you're going to be in a world of hurt (and post purchase dissonance) with this decision, dude.
Appalling68 , strange, the reviews I’ve just read have them well above most of the German makers in terms of reliability. Some of the older engines weren’t so good, but that doesn’t really apply here
There is no guarantee but I think the warranty shows commitment from MG. well just have to wait and see 🤔
I have a PHEV Outlander, my Mitsubishi dealer is also an MG Dealer so I took a look at the ZS - Very Surprised! My PHEV is nearly twice the price of the ZS and the quality difference was negligible! Also they give me an MG3 when I service the PHEV and it's really fun to drive (ICE aside) - Forget what you've heard; things have changed. MG blinked first, now I think the race is really on.