Songs, artists and albums referenced: Jack's involvement: - Vulfpeck/Vulf Records - Vulfmon (artist - funk) - Fearless Flyers (band - funk, instrumental) - Yiddishe Pirat (band - klezmer) - Rob Stenson (artist - banjo) - DJ Bean Ornish (artist - funk) - [tracks omitted] Songs: - Use Me (Esther Phillips, Bernard Purdie, Billy Cobham, Cornell Dupree, Eric Gale, Creed Taylor, Ron Carter, Gordon Edwards, Ralph MacDonald, Pee Wee Ellis, Maceo Parker - Jack's second favourite mix) - Use Me (Bill Withers - Jack's favourite mix) - Ooh Child (Richie Havens, Bernard Purdie) - Home Is Where The Hatred Is (Gill Scott-Heron for Esther Phillips) - We Can Work It Out (Stevie Wonder) Artists: - Rudy Van Gelder (Mix engineer) - Bernard Purdie (Drums - Jack's favourite drummer) - Maurice White (Producer - Jack's favourite producer) - Jaco Pastorius (Bass) - George Porter Jr. (Bass) - The Meters (Band) - James Jamerson (Bass) - Leonard Bernstein (Composer) - James Brown (Producer) - Pee Wee Ellis (Horns Arranger) - Esther Phillips (Singer?) - Kenny Rogers (Singer-Songwriter) - Gil Scott-Heron (Singer-Songwriter) - James Gadson (Drummer) - Earl Palmer (Drummer) - Levon Helm (Drummer) They Are Listening To: - Harmonia (Band) - Roedelius (Band) - Flyte (Band) - ABBA (Band) - Stevie Wonder (Singer-Songwriter)
@@hahahalala-i1x you must be joking. Being on the radio says very little about influence-- ESPECIALLY today. But even if we say we're talking 1960s thru 2000s radio, when we talk sheer *influence*, we're talking music's impact on other music. Not what the mainstream audience has been beat over the head with until they "like" it. Great musicians are typically influenced by other great musicians, who tend to find them on their own regardless of format, and are often attracted to the quality of performances and recording that don't necessarily expose them to mainstream audiences. Great musicians today know who tf Vulf are without their having to be on the radio in 2024 lmao. What a silly thing to say... the radio.
Jack is one of my heroes! As a multi instrumentalist who is in to self production he does it all right! And he’s a goofball who has fun while he’s at it! Thanks Ryan and Jack!
Rudy was technically an employee at blue note. Seemed to have more freedom and accuracy at prestige. His Savoy mono records are mind blowing. Impulse sound is right in the middle of all this. The Esther Phillips is on CTi which has yet another RVG sound signature.
Thanks for the episode, its so nice to see that pro musicians are also nerding about stuff they love. You never stop loving your influences and you never stop beeing influenced by the music you love.
26:26 Withers' and Esther's coincidental '72 release - bang-on about uncertainty of success. Top 1960s UK writer-performers often shopped songs around, and a cover would instsntly appear from the stable at Pye Records, et al. Writer's happy, A&R takes a cut .. cigars all round.
Hearing Jack say at 30:30 that he was afraid the track Cory Wong wouldn't catch traction with audiences blows me away. That was the first Vulf song I heard and INSTANTLY I was hooked. Cory Wong is still my all time fav! You can't hear that iconic Joe Dart bass fill and not fall in love. Still blows my mind!
I got to see bernard perdie live with a quartet in portland or. Place called jimmy macks that doesnt exist anymore. Bernard walked around while the band did some soft comping and he went to almost every table and said hi, how are you doing. I embarrassed my dad by saying that we're both drummers. He was really sweet and full of joy and fun. Great drummer and a great guy.
Is this a re-upload with stereo sound? I must check out the klezmer group - two of my sons play clarinet. We have known Jack is a genius ever since I came across the MSG concert 🥁 Edit: LOL - searched YT and came up with an upload of a Yiddishe Pirat album that I had half watched some time ago! Brilliant playing - of course.
Excellent! This reminds me of how masterful Hans Zimmer was with the same four chord progression used in Inception. Telling a dynamic story with a fixed variable. Brilliant!
Did Jack say that Esther Phillips was discovered by Kenny Rodgers? Cuz that is totally not true! She was 'discovered' by the great Johnny Otis at the age of 14 in 1949, singing in a talent competition. She had numerous hits under the name Little Esther before adopted the stage-surname Phillips. She was an incredible talent who never found the widespread fame she deserved.
Recording at Van Morrisons studio in the UK, my band asked PeeWee Ellis to do a brass arrangement on one of our tracks. He arrived with no charts, asked what was for dinner and asked if we could get him a plate. Sat in the lounge listening to the track eating chicken legs and sketching out charts. All of us exchanged looks. Came out 20 minutes later and he and his section nailed the most perfect New Orleans vibes in around 3 takes. What an amazing intro to an amazing guy.
Jack saying "they're too 'Swedish'/'sweetish' about it", referring to musicians' reluctance to fully occupy their space in the performance is itself an example of the mysterious language we use to communicate ideas without having to be concrete. You just know what he means lol.
The whole video was great. But that last statement about Abba... I have a very specific curiosity I've always has about some of the vocal sounds that were coming out in the 70s where the vocals reminded me of trumpets. I think it must have something to do with the specific intervals chosen for the harmonies, but it feels like a technique (and one I'd love to know how to replicate)
My absoulte favourite stereo mix is Emiliana Torrini + the Colorist Orchestra - Caterpillar. That low drum in the left ear... The Colorist Orchestra are such masters at leaving and creating space.
Jack - when I discovered the krautrock stuff I never stopped listening. Harmonia, Cluster, and don’t miss the Harold Grosskopf record Synthesist. Been asking for that ABBA guest spot forever let’s go!
Thanks for a great episode! Esther Phillips deserves so much recognition. Her Kudo-albums are true gems. However, I did hope that one of you could shed light on why the amazing background vocals weren’t included on the original album version: ua-cam.com/video/muC8-VDPrIc/v-deo.htmlsi=jm3flNRcdaZZpMzy I mean, in addition to the amazing groove, the background vocals add yet another funky, funky layer to the mix, so why weren’t they included in the first place? We’re they recorded after? Were they forgotten while mixing? Either way, it puzzles me.
Okay gotta chime in because I love Mr Finish Line!! Maybe more for the Vulf niche than the public (who would not know what the hell the lyrics are about lol), but it's such a fun song!
Fantastic track. Epic lineup. Just listening to your rhythm interpretation. I'm hearing this very differently. I would question if the kick is on the 2 and 4. You had made a Reggae reference and Reggae is typically on the 3. Ska could be viewed as 2 and 4 as it's faster and compressed. This track sounds like it's on the 3, as a one drop. How did you arrive at 2 and 4? You made a similar description with your Bjork breakdown of "Venus as a Boy". Again I would view that as a one drop. Just wondering. 👍🏿
Seriously, everything about the bass guitar on the song Margery just fucking grabs me by the spine and shakes me to my core. Maybe my favorite bass work of all time. I don't play bass. I fake it for my own songs, but I play that song and I want everyone in the room to shut the fuck up and listen. ❤
there was a pinned comment on the previous upload to make sure you're listening to the stereo mix of the song. since they're listening to the stereo mix in this episode, i'm guessing the editor of the original upload mistakenly used the mono mix for the edit
(In a rapid, manic pace) Ah, look at them, three musical maestros, yes indeed! Discussing music with such intensity, you can almost hear their brain cells dancing. Or are they just… jazzed up on a little herbal... inspiration? Maybe they've found a whole new meaning in the phrase 'high notes!'
Obviously I still love these videos but I’m very curious why dead wax switched to filming with an IPhone and using these McDonald’s drive through headsets. You would have thought if it were about simplifying and saving money they could’ve still used a decent camera and a few real mics like every other podcast about there. If anybody knows the reason why happy to hear it!
This would be a lot cooler if Patreon didn't keep getting worse with every update. Can't sort by month again on the website... can't even sort by year on the app now. Maybe suggest to Jack that he could focus on that for a minute. I'm sure it's just an email or two on his end.
I really like your videos, especially given the guest you manage to get on your show - but sometimes I feel like your urge to make easy-to-digest content, that's not too long, and fit for social media gets in the way of its value. It's kind of frustrating to hear Jack Stratton being interrupted while he's trying to make a (very) interesting point.
@@DeadWaxShow something is still off I think? you mention a few times that something is panned left -- like the snare/hi-hat @ 7:35 -- but it's panned right for me here and on Spotify
I love vulfpeck. They are one of my fav bands. Jack is a fuckin genius. But the idea that they “sold out” MSG is an absolute joke. They closed off a ton of sections lol
Honestly, I can't hear that "laidback" effect on that song. Yes the kick on 2 and 4 is brilliant but there's nothing strange about the rest of the groove...
Jack is an encyclopedia of 70s soul music production and bean health
I'd love to see a deadwax with Jack Stratton ONLY about Vulf. I could have listened for hours to that.
Songs, artists and albums referenced:
Jack's involvement:
- Vulfpeck/Vulf Records
- Vulfmon (artist - funk)
- Fearless Flyers (band - funk, instrumental)
- Yiddishe Pirat (band - klezmer)
- Rob Stenson (artist - banjo)
- DJ Bean Ornish (artist - funk)
- [tracks omitted]
Songs:
- Use Me (Esther Phillips, Bernard Purdie, Billy Cobham, Cornell Dupree, Eric Gale, Creed Taylor, Ron Carter, Gordon Edwards, Ralph MacDonald, Pee Wee Ellis, Maceo Parker - Jack's second favourite mix)
- Use Me (Bill Withers - Jack's favourite mix)
- Ooh Child (Richie Havens, Bernard Purdie)
- Home Is Where The Hatred Is (Gill Scott-Heron for Esther Phillips)
- We Can Work It Out (Stevie Wonder)
Artists:
- Rudy Van Gelder (Mix engineer)
- Bernard Purdie (Drums - Jack's favourite drummer)
- Maurice White (Producer - Jack's favourite producer)
- Jaco Pastorius (Bass)
- George Porter Jr. (Bass)
- The Meters (Band)
- James Jamerson (Bass)
- Leonard Bernstein (Composer)
- James Brown (Producer)
- Pee Wee Ellis (Horns Arranger)
- Esther Phillips (Singer?)
- Kenny Rogers (Singer-Songwriter)
- Gil Scott-Heron (Singer-Songwriter)
- James Gadson (Drummer)
- Earl Palmer (Drummer)
- Levon Helm (Drummer)
They Are Listening To:
- Harmonia (Band)
- Roedelius (Band)
- Flyte (Band)
- ABBA (Band)
- Stevie Wonder (Singer-Songwriter)
Get on Flyte. Records are mgicl
I believe DJ Bean Ornish is one of Jacks “creations”.
@@LiamAnderson-kw7mp i must've missed the reference to it, i'll add it
Jack Stratton listening to everything that Bernard Purdie played on is the 21st century tale of Sisyphus and that rock.
Noooo, Jack should have said "Vulfgang Amadeus Mozart" when he was asked about the founder of their Vulf Conservatory! 😆
Vulfgoss Amatheo Modart
@@JoaoSantos-bp5rm Haha... Modart.
@@JoaoSantos-bp5rmomg xD
@@JoaoSantos-bp5rm Jodart.
@@gfunkk uuuh so smooth hahahahah
19:19 It gave me relief to hear Jack say he uses UA-cam slow down function to learn a piece, that's exactly what I'm doing all the time
Jack Stratton is a musical genius. One of the most influential and overall talented musicians of our era. I wish this interview was six hours long.
influential? nahh
not influential enough vulf needs to be on radio
@@hahahalala-i1x you must be joking. Being on the radio says very little about influence-- ESPECIALLY today. But even if we say we're talking 1960s thru 2000s radio, when we talk sheer *influence*, we're talking music's impact on other music. Not what the mainstream audience has been beat over the head with until they "like" it. Great musicians are typically influenced by other great musicians, who tend to find them on their own regardless of format, and are often attracted to the quality of performances and recording that don't necessarily expose them to mainstream audiences. Great musicians today know who tf Vulf are without their having to be on the radio in 2024 lmao. What a silly thing to say... the radio.
@@twally87 What a silly thing to say ... "what a silly thing to say". Pipe tf down!
@@ec6455Keep your little panties on 🙄
Jack is one of my heroes! As a multi instrumentalist who is in to self production he does it all right! And he’s a goofball who has fun while he’s at it! Thanks Ryan and Jack!
Anyone else notice that Jack Stratton seems pretty baked in this?
He definitely is
For sure
I came here for this comment
I had this video on my Watch Later and it was SO SAD to see that it was gone. I'm extremely glad it came back!
Rudy was technically an employee at blue note. Seemed to have more freedom and accuracy at prestige. His Savoy mono records are mind blowing. Impulse sound is right in the middle of all this. The Esther Phillips is on CTi which has yet another RVG sound signature.
Thanks for the episode,
its so nice to see that pro musicians are also nerding about stuff they love. You never stop loving your influences and you never stop beeing influenced by the music you love.
Bro is so high 😂
Brilliant. I just wanted this to go on and on and on… is there a longer version?
26:26 Withers' and Esther's coincidental '72 release - bang-on about uncertainty of success. Top 1960s UK writer-performers often shopped songs around, and a cover would instsntly appear from the stable at Pye Records, et al. Writer's happy, A&R takes a cut .. cigars all round.
Loved it. So cool to hear Esther Phillips. What an incredible vocalist.
Hearing Jack say at 30:30 that he was afraid the track Cory Wong wouldn't catch traction with audiences blows me away. That was the first Vulf song I heard and INSTANTLY I was hooked. Cory Wong is still my all time fav! You can't hear that iconic Joe Dart bass fill and not fall in love. Still blows my mind!
I got to see bernard perdie live with a quartet in portland or. Place called jimmy macks that doesnt exist anymore. Bernard walked around while the band did some soft comping and he went to almost every table and said hi, how are you doing. I embarrassed my dad by saying that we're both drummers. He was really sweet and full of joy and fun. Great drummer and a great guy.
We need more Jack Stratton content!
Is this a re-upload with stereo sound? I must check out the klezmer group - two of my sons play clarinet. We have known Jack is a genius ever since I came across the MSG concert 🥁 Edit: LOL - searched YT and came up with an upload of a Yiddishe Pirat album that I had half watched some time ago! Brilliant playing - of course.
Hahaha, I need more baked Jack Stratton in my life. Such a legend
Vulfpeck is my favorite band of all time. Great interview!!
I wished they talked about the vulfmon Monica Martin version of alone again, naturally love that song
Now I'll have to watch it again. Already did it on the first upload and listened as a podcast.
This pod is freaking gold mine 🤯
Excellent! This reminds me of how masterful Hans Zimmer was with the same four chord progression used in Inception. Telling a dynamic story with a fixed variable. Brilliant!
definitely one of my favorite episodes so far, along with the madison cunningham episode!
Glad to see Esther get some shine. Her version of "Home is where the hatred is" is one of the finest pieces of recorded music you will ever hear
Did Jack say that Esther Phillips was discovered by Kenny Rodgers? Cuz that is totally not true! She was 'discovered' by the great Johnny Otis at the age of 14 in 1949, singing in a talent competition. She had numerous hits under the name Little Esther before adopted the stage-surname Phillips. She was an incredible talent who never found the widespread fame she deserved.
Yeah, I was surprised these 3 guys with their prodigious collective musical knowledge didn't know about LITTLE Esther Phillips.
Oh yeah RVG, that star wars supreme court judge
My life would be complete if I could write a song with Jack.
his use of LANGUAGE is fascinating
I think Professional Musicians React was a lot better name than Dead Wax
Love it.
Sports anouncing from the launch Control center, about the bands space mission from launch till landing.
Killer episode, and wow I am LOVING the work on Glider
jack and jack should go head to head in a music competition. A Jack-off.
👀
Recording at Van Morrisons studio in the UK, my band asked PeeWee Ellis to do a brass arrangement on one of our tracks. He arrived with no charts, asked what was for dinner and asked if we could get him a plate. Sat in the lounge listening to the track eating chicken legs and sketching out charts. All of us exchanged looks. Came out 20 minutes later and he and his section nailed the most perfect New Orleans vibes in around 3 takes. What an amazing intro to an amazing guy.
Jack saying "they're too 'Swedish'/'sweetish' about it", referring to musicians' reluctance to fully occupy their space in the performance is itself an example of the mysterious language we use to communicate ideas without having to be concrete. You just know what he means lol.
The whole video was great. But that last statement about Abba... I have a very specific curiosity I've always has about some of the vocal sounds that were coming out in the 70s where the vocals reminded me of trumpets. I think it must have something to do with the specific intervals chosen for the harmonies, but it feels like a technique (and one I'd love to know how to replicate)
My 'damn, this is funky!' track is scary goldings - humble strut.
Amazing episode! Thanks!
Jack Stratton welcoming them to their own show is craaaaaazzzy
He's in fact welcoming them to him: "Welcome- to me"
Big missed opportunity for Jack and Ryan to geek out on the chords and melody of Alone Again. Both have incredible covers of that song.
My absoulte favourite stereo mix is Emiliana Torrini + the Colorist Orchestra - Caterpillar.
That low drum in the left ear... The Colorist Orchestra are such masters at leaving and creating space.
Jack - when I discovered the krautrock stuff I never stopped listening. Harmonia, Cluster, and don’t miss the Harold Grosskopf record Synthesist.
Been asking for that ABBA guest spot forever let’s go!
I've never heard anyone talk about the panning on blue note jazz records, but it's always bugged me too! Every one sounds the same too
This is best appreciated on half speed !
Thanks for a great episode! Esther Phillips deserves so much recognition. Her Kudo-albums are true gems.
However, I did hope that one of you could shed light on why the amazing background vocals weren’t included on the original album version: ua-cam.com/video/muC8-VDPrIc/v-deo.htmlsi=jm3flNRcdaZZpMzy
I mean, in addition to the amazing groove, the background vocals add yet another funky, funky layer to the mix, so why weren’t they included in the first place? We’re they recorded after? Were they forgotten while mixing? Either way, it puzzles me.
The Esther arrangement reminds me of Ray Charles. Great chat.
Stratton starting it off with "welcome, to me" 💀
Love to hear you guys every bit.
Could you analyze we can work it out featuring Chaka Khan?
Okay gotta chime in because I love Mr Finish Line!!
Maybe more for the Vulf niche than the public (who would not know what the hell the lyrics are about lol), but it's such a fun song!
This is amazing you gotta have him on again (naturally : ) )
Fantastic track. Epic lineup. Just listening to your rhythm interpretation. I'm hearing this very differently. I would question if the kick is on the 2 and 4. You had made a Reggae reference and Reggae is typically on the 3. Ska could be viewed as 2 and 4 as it's faster and compressed. This track sounds like it's on the 3, as a one drop. How did you arrive at 2 and 4? You made a similar description with your Bjork breakdown of "Venus as a Boy". Again I would view that as a one drop. Just wondering. 👍🏿
He's counting it at half the speed you are. 👍
the mon’, the myth, the legend
:D
Levitate 2022
Bonnaroo 2023
Avant Gardner 2023
I can't wait to see what the future holds for me and more Vulf concerts!
What microphones/headsets are you guys using?
I like how these guys are just commentators now. Put them in a booth!
Please talk more with Jack. We need to dissect this mans brain
I'm just here for NHOP on that poster. 🥰
Seriously, everything about the bass guitar on the song Margery just fucking grabs me by the spine and shakes me to my core. Maybe my favorite bass work of all time. I don't play bass. I fake it for my own songs, but I play that song and I want everyone in the room to shut the fuck up and listen. ❤
@deadwax I believe Phil Schier is credited with mixing the Bill Withers version
Cool. Love special shows
haven't I seen this before ?
there was a pinned comment on the previous upload to make sure you're listening to the stereo mix of the song.
since they're listening to the stereo mix in this episode, i'm guessing the editor of the original upload mistakenly used the mono mix for the edit
Two of my favorite Jacks right there! ... And quite possibly my all-time favorite Ryan!
(In a rapid, manic pace) Ah, look at them, three musical maestros, yes indeed! Discussing music with such intensity, you can almost hear their brain cells dancing. Or are they just… jazzed up on a little herbal... inspiration? Maybe they've found a whole new meaning in the phrase 'high notes!'
Please post a new episode!!! Thanks!
Obviously I still love these videos but I’m very curious why dead wax switched to filming with an IPhone and using these McDonald’s drive through headsets. You would have thought if it were about simplifying and saving money they could’ve still used a decent camera and a few real mics like every other podcast about there. If anybody knows the reason why happy to hear it!
Thanks for be here
Is that a Baldwin FunMachine off to Ryan's Right?
yeeeeah
What are all the tracks listened to here?
Jacks taste is so next and thats part of why the band is successful. Wish the dead wax guys wouldnt talk over the tunes though
Is anybody hearing the snare on right and tambo on left? I keep listening and don’t see how my L/r would be switched through my phone wth
The iso track of Bonham's Fool In The Rain is a nice gateway to the Purdie Shuffle, en route to PurdieLand
"Welcome to... to me."
- Jack Stratton
Listening to this at 0.5 speed is great
Didn't I watch this like 3 days ago?
the original upload was in mono, this was reuploaded in stereo
@@guitarrecord101 That explains why I couldn't hear the placement of the instruments in the mix. I thought I just had a bad set of headphones.
This would be a lot cooler if Patreon didn't keep getting worse with every update. Can't sort by month again on the website... can't even sort by year on the app now. Maybe suggest to Jack that he could focus on that for a minute. I'm sure it's just an email or two on his end.
Reupload?
Okay, my headphones are not on backwards. Why am I getting tambo on the left and snare on the right? The opposite of what they all said
Thank god, me too
Thank god, thought I was losing my
Mind, that’s what I’m hearing through here and Spotify
This is like listening to a conversation in a cessna. I tried but I can't get through it. There's so much knowledge and talent in that room too.
Could this be translated to a podcast?
it is available as a podcast!
Jack Stratton's my Dad!
I really like your videos, especially given the guest you manage to get on your show - but sometimes I feel like your urge to make easy-to-digest content, that's not too long, and fit for social media gets in the way of its value.
It's kind of frustrating to hear Jack Stratton being interrupted while he's trying to make a (very) interesting point.
More with Jack please or bring back theo!
Why the re-upload?
the first upload had the song in mono, which is kinda the whole point!
@@DeadWaxShow something is still off I think? you mention a few times that something is panned left -- like the snare/hi-hat @ 7:35 -- but it's panned right for me here and on Spotify
Ofc they have a Patreon :p haha
Clawzmer time!
I love vulfpeck. They are one of my fav bands. Jack is a fuckin genius. But the idea that they “sold out” MSG is an absolute joke. They closed off a ton of sections lol
The band Cafe Drechsler
Honestly, I can't hear that "laidback" effect on that song. Yes the kick on 2 and 4 is brilliant but there's nothing strange about the rest of the groove...
5:03
At first I thought this was bonus Jack, but it's a re-upload. Hope all is well
Interesting
is this a jack startton bit or was he zooted out
I wondered about that too.
Is it me or do their mics sound really weird? Like they’re pilots or something.
thought the same!
What do you want, it’s not that they are about sound
Anyone getting the vibe that Stratton is absolutely stoned in this video lmao
💯 Even checked the comments to see if anybody else noticed
Wtf is a sanding machine?
I humbly request... please don't use sound desk headset microphones for your podcast.
You have good microphones. Please use them
Man…they,re not about sound !
Jack seems fucked up in this interview ngl