I've gone from a 1290 ktm adventure to a cf moto 450 mt and would not go back. Nothing to do with cost but a light bike that's fun, we'll made and good quality. Once you stop buying with your ego the smaller bikes are much better
@ontheroadadventure hmmm I think it's low at 3000 miles but I expect they will increase to 6000. It's a great bike, a twin that sounds great. It's still a 450 so no rocket ship nut decent enough. I'm sure you have but take a look at nathan the postman views of it :)
Is it smooth to ride? or vibrates like this one? 3k miles would be no good to me especially if i need to find a dealer to service it in order to keep the warranty, it would cost me a fortune with the miles we do
@mattstringer7838 my dealer informed me that the cf moto is 620 first service and then 6000 4 years warranty and the 7 year European brakedown cover subject to honouring the service schedule
@ontheroadadventure I test rode the himmy 450 and was literally numb after. The cf moto is much smoother , i added the larger front sprocket to reduce revs at 70 mph. It's a lot smoother than the himmy. It also sounds great. I'm sure the service interval will be extended. I had an AT 1100 and just found it really top heavy to so I always feel for your guys having to turn around on small gravel roads fully loaded
As I said on FB, I've moved from 1000cc bikes to both a RE 650 Interceptor and a 350 Bullet! The Bullet has 20hp and has been the most fun I've had on a bike for years. I wouldn't take it on a motorway though! The 650 twin is a great A and B road blaster too, without worrying about my licence.
Just changed in August from a VStrom 1043 cc to an Aprilia 457 cc. Tried the RE 650’s, 350’s and the Moto Guzzi V7. I returned from a test ride and saw the Aprilia. Having never ridden a sportsbike I took the chance to try one. And it felt like it was the right bike for me. Yes it has a lot less power but it still reaches speeds where you will loose your licence and moving it around in storage is a lot easier.
Yes these size bikes can still go fast enough to get you in trouble! As long as you return from a ride smiling then that is all that matters, the fact that it will also save you money is a bonus
Well done on the presentation, Rich. Very listenable and intelligently presented. There are a lot of reviewers out there that I just have to turn off after a minute or two. Good luck to you and Ewa with the channel, but please don't lose the natural humour and banter you both have.
I had the same pre-conceptions as you. I speak as a biker of over 40 years' experience. My last 4 bikes have been GSA's. I felt it was time to downsize, and test rode several makes and models. I plumped for the new Himalayan 450 in the end, because it put a massive grin on my face during the time I had it. The engine is brilliant, its a good size bike for me (i'm 6ft2). I have a feeling it will go anywhere I want it to. I get no vibes at all, I have a suspicion that demo bikes are ragged from day one, and careful running in is a must. I'm wondering if it's the best bike I've ever owned!
It feels like allot of people are coming to a similar conclusion as we all begin to ask ourselves what we actually need, Its so easy to be sold the latest and biggest Adventure bike but how many of us are actually able to use it to its full potential
Royal enfeild continental-gt 650 iv been riding as my daily bike iv always riden 600 to 650cc over the years great bikes Royal enfield iv tried the 350j engine bike for 2 years made lots of videos on my channel and big smile on my face every time iv riden them stay safe guys
I'll be honest I was put off it by a couple of reviews at the launch, I won't name them but neither could ride for toffee and them raving about it really made me wonder. Thanks for a straightforward honest review from someone who can actually ride. Cheers, great as ever.
Having been on bikes year's ago, I have now retired and decided to get back on two wheels while I still can. Looking around for a mid powered bike, I have absolutely no need for speed, I have just purchased a RE 650 twin Interceptor (second hand) and I'm loving it. Plenty of power, turns heads and sounds lovely. RE are new to me as a Honda fan boy, but my goodness what a great experience ❤
I'm over 100kg, ride a Honda 500x. 27,000 miles in under 3 years. Love it. It's fast enough, light, simple and economical. Will be doing a tour of Ireland next summer with a few 1250 and 900 BMW's. I'm confident it's the better bike for the single track twisties roads of Western Ireland 😊
I think you are right. Costs are a big consideration these days and also simpler the better for crossing the globe easier to fix with limited tools etc. Good review.
For me money would be the biggest draw to these smaller bikes, If I can do the same rides at a cheaper price then it makes economical sense to me. Well done for a open minded fair review
Its fair to say this is becoming more and more important to riders as the Cost of living crisis in the uk continues to make things harder for Average joe..
I think we are all becoming seriously jaded with the bigger more tech dependant humongous expensive to buy, own and fix adventure behemoths with all their unnecessary gadgets and gizmos, and heading back to happier simpler lighter mid size times...I mean just LOOK at the new BMW GSA 1300 - its a preposterous motorcycle, emperor's new clothes....
Some years ago I owned a 1982 Yamaha XS650, which did not impress me power wise spoken. It wasn't fast at all... But you're absolutely right; it is much more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow; I had so much fun with this slow bike, no really! My current Yamaha MT-01 (1670Cc) thumpin' V-twin in a Yamaha R1 frame with R1 suspension front and rear and also R1 brakes is not fast by any means but dancing with this big girl along a river following road and those two exhaust pipes right under your seat barking...oh man, no really, who needs speed anyway... I have the most fun at low speeds with only 90 Horse Power but 150 Nm Torque. So in a way the size of the engine has grown, but it still isn't a fast bike, and yet I don't care. So I fully understand your statement about mid-sized motorcycles; they rock ! You can have such a fun riding these bikes... You should take a bike like this to the river Mosel in Germany and ride along the river and dance with her.... man you'll fall in love with her ! Ask me how I know.. ;-)
@@ontheroadadventure Well..., I'd rather keep her for now if you don't mind, the love is still there you know, but I am sure you'll be able to get one, if you really want one... ;-) Yamaha has done this the same recipe a few times now: Take a grand thumpin' V-twin and put it in a regular naked bike: In the early 80s: The Yamaha TR1, and then a little later in the early 2000s The Yamaha BT1100 Bulldog and then as off 2005 the Yamaha MT-01. They obviously did the same trick with different models and different engines, like the Yamaha SR500 --> creating the absolute very first Off-Road machine in the world: The Yamaha XT500 and how about the Yamaha Venture --> creating the very first drag bike the Yamaha V-Max and so on... Yamaha therefor was mostly the very first to come up with a new kind of bike no-one had ever seen before... Yamaha therefor is the inventor, most other makes are copiers of the ideas Yamaha came up with ;-) Just trying to make friend here...hahaha
@@ontheroadadventure T7... ? That's the real thing, and created based upon almost 50 years of developing the very first Off-Road bike ever: The Yamaha XT500 and also based up on 45 Years of race experience in the first Paris-Dakar and later The Dakar rally.
Nice review, I think it's a good bike but i personally would buy a Himalayan now at 73 it would be all i would need. My best wishes to you from the Philippines ♥️💪👍😉😀😁🏁🏍️🛺🐑🇵🇭🏴⭐
In my time in the 70 when I whas a little boy 16 years old i was driving German made bikes kreitler zunndap and Puch maximum speed 80 km that were good times in Amsterdam getting many girls that time
Thanks for showing this great review mate! Years ago, i was lucky enough to have a tour around the old Royal Enfield factory in Chennai (Madras) , back in those day's (just over 20 years ago) I remember well that when they did the rolling test, they would hang an old tin can to the handlebars with just enough fuel for the testing, it was all really basic..... but so real :) In 4 weeks time i'll be on a testride with the Himalayan 450 in India lol, cant wait for that :) Looking forward to your next travel vids 👍 Greetz Mick in Holland 🖖
I took a Vespa 300 GTS to France. No problem. Admittedly I wasn’t camping. I reckon Guerilla would be great for a touring adventure especially if staying on A roads
@@ontheroadadventureI found the 300 better than a bike around town. When the 600s caught me up at the next lights they would exclaim’what the hell have you got in that?’ They used to think it was a moped 😂
Single cylinder you are going to feel that in the pegs brother. But its like you said its down to how hard you push it. They are excellent bikes especially for the older rider wanting to stay on a bike but still have a bit of capability from the machine. Also the build quality and price is exceptional . Cake and tea nice.😁
I have to say, it impressed me, much more than i thought it would. Royal Enfield have done very well over the last few years and for good reason i believe. I'd Like more time on the Royal Enfields
I had a RE Hunter 350, it was a lovely bike, but it failed your motorway test…sadly it did not have enough power to handle the motorway traffic flow. I swapped it for a Super Meteor 650 and it was transformative. The extra power made all the difference. The only criticism I have it’s a touch heavy for me, but I’m a 5’6, 63 yr old woman…so it’s all about confidence and technique lol. Does this mean the Voges have gone back…I could really see you buying them 😇👍🏻
I have ridden a 350 before and i didnt go far on the test ride, i knew it wasnt for me that one. The 650 twin is a different game. We have our final thoughts coming soon on the voges before Doing something new...
Thank you for another brilliant video. I am interested in the Himalayan 450 as a second bike to Triumph Tiger sport 660. I live in West Sussex. Three bike shops have closed down.
RE began in, I think, 1896 making bicycles. Its first motorcycle was in 1901 The Himmi 450 has enough performance for the legal speed limits and will take you literally anywhere you want to go, on road or off road, It is comfortable and who needs lots of power and speed other than for something to brag about,
I've just stepped down from the cf moto 650mt down to the new cf moto 450 clc cruiser due to health reasons and I can honestly say I'm loving it the difference in weight alone I think it's around 6 stone lighter and more manageable for me now and also certainly no slouch on the motorway either plenty enough for me now and a pleasure to ride
Wow. That is standing behind their product. Very impressive Provided they can supply the parts as and when needed. I know of some one who had the 650mt and needed a fuel pump part or similiar, he waited months, so long he gave up and bought a honda instead
@@ontheroadadventure I can only assume they might have a central warehouse or establishing on in Germany as I know my dealer ordered something for another customer and it was delivered next day to northern Ireland so fingers crossed 🤞 😆
Looking at the revs/speed it looks identical to my new 450 Himalayan 4000rpm 50mph initial running in and the trip computer showed 99.9mpg on Vpower super unleaded - not bothering with e95 or the Eco mode. Now after first service, with 6000rpm 70mph until 1200 miles there is nothing lacking, either local roads or the A38, brillaint over dartmoor. Pretty sure it will be 90mpg everywhere once running in completed and 'dropping down' from a bmw r1200RS, which I am keeping, this range of bikes is not a small engine or what I consider a downgrade. The engine vibrations really do reduce after the first service and the engine did feel very tight from new but every mile gets better and Chris at CMS was correct. This engine will surprise many people - check out the feedback from 'fuzzy biker' who has now covered an amazing 11,000 miles in less than two months,
You're going to get a lot more fun riding low powered bikes closer to their limits than the big powerful 1000+cc bike at a quarter of its capabilities.
Hi friends, I have new tip for you. Find these; GPX motors from Thailand...we like them to import and sell in NL. Btw, if you come again to Netherlands lets talk.
I've just subscribed to your Channel you 2 are Great together and your videos are really real and interesting very good content for us Bikers 👍👍😎😎🏍🏍🏍Keep up the Great videos 📹 keep safe have fun 👍 📹📹🏍🏍😎😎🌞🌞🌨🌨🏍🏍📹📹
@ontheroadadventure just watched the video, I've just got Triumph GT PRO, My first Adventure bike I love it, I'm looking forward to some Great Adventures ahead in 2025
I would love to see that, a 650 twin Himalayan would be amazing, a little more power but also a reduction in vibration at higher speeds would be welcome. Ive always quite like the look of the interceptor 650, i must go and ride one
Would the 650 really be a big difference from the 450? When looking at hp figures, a 20 hp bike is not twice as fast as a 10 hp bike, a 40 hp bike is not twice as fast as a 20 hp bike. Will the extra 7 hp between the 450 and 650 make that much difference, with the 650 weight increase?
👋 I got on order a Honda cb125F new from Honda 🇫🇷 I took on demo out I love it so I got 1️⃣ I getting in 2 weeks 🕰️ and I got side boxes with a top box all in for 2,345 euros inc insurance & taxes ❤❤
Always can rely on you Rich for a good honest review 👍🏼 The surprise in your voice said it all when you had it in Performance mode!!! Most people that do reviews on these mid range bikes usually state there’s not much difference??? But I suspect they usually ride sports bikes ??? Shame about the use of the name Sherpa on the engine, just reminds me of the Leyland Sherpa vans I drove back in the day which were absolutely shite 😂😂 but I’m sure this is not the case with the Enfield! As in my opinion they produce fantastic motorcycles 👍🏼 Keep up the excellent reviews mate 😎
What we need now is for RE to put this engine in their new Scrambler instead of/ as well as the 650cc engine. Not everyone wants engines over 500cc these days.
I have tried downsizing but it did mot go well. I will not knock anyone that finds the smaller / middleweight bikes right for them. I found the smaller capacity bikes fast enough but not powerful enough. They are constantly close to full throttle to maintain speed, and lack the effortless overtaking ability. I am sure I will now be shot down by people with different opinions. I am now riding the heaviest and largest capacity bike I have ever owned at the age of 69, and hope I can manage for a few more years.
I have tried downsizing a few times over the years. The last time was a Suzuki Inazuma 250. This bike lasted 18 months before I moved it on. I purchased a BMW R1150RT as a stop gap bike for less than I got for the Inazuma and kept that bike over 5 years. I then looked at downsizing again but decided against it and purchased a six year old BMW K1600 GT with 16500 miles on the clock in June this year. I have put 5000 miles on the clock, so far so good. I love the bike.
Made in the largest democratic country in the world, so no issues there. 👍 The service internals have improved somewhat with this new generation of engine but I think it's still unrefined with older engineering compared to its Japanese counterparts. I've absolutely no idea why you'd need different riding modes on a 40 bhp motorcycle!
I agree a smaller lighter bike but… this is still lacking in my opinion. It needs another 10-20bhp to still be exciting. My very old Honda cb500 was 60bhp and probably lighter than this. They still race the 500s. Having tested a lot of bikes, yes 48bhp is ok as transport but if you want that overtaking thrill that still excites me then 70bhp is my sweet spot. Just my opinion I think it’s as ugly as… Like many older riders, we want twin clocks. I know I am in the minority and many love RE but I don’t. I test rode the himalayan24bhp and the 650. Even the 650 did not impress me. Then again I have had a few 250/300 scooters which are only 24-34bhp and loved them. It’s a different purpose though. I still like a thrill occasionally. I am still unconvinced on their reliability and longevity. Lots of vloggers having to replace/repair parts. Give me a light 500cc with 70bhp with Japanese build. Great review Rich. Not a negative comment just my own thoughts. Rest day rider has gone from RE to a CF Moto and I think what she says is right. To put it into perspective my 2 stroke 250s used to do just under a ton and I still went up to 500 and 750 and beyond. I could not stand the vibes
That CF moto looks impressive i cant wait to ride one. Also the T7 fits nicely in that sweet spot but is a bit tall. I guess i just like all bikes and respect each for their Pros and cons... The unicorn doesnt exist yet.... Which is probably a good thing...
Lol - Love your Honesty! What can i say, its been great but yes the voge gets a final thoughts video and then its going back and we will have something new to show you...
@ontheroadadventure Or seeing pictures off Himmys and 350,s classics with 14.4 bhp at rear wheel clogging up the crawler lanes forcing Trucks to overtake them.😂
It's never about the bikes, it's about me. I'm 6'4" tall, and weigh in a just under 300 pounds. and coming off of a Honda Goldwing. I still need something in the mid-range market, for my size. Just for me, a 650cc bike, would get me from zero to sixty in four hours and fifteen minutes. I wanted something in the 800 range, just to have a little comfort. But, after spending 24,500.00 on my wing. I'm looking at toning if down a lot. Price ranges in the 8 to 12 K range. I'll ride 95% road, and 5% trails. (only to get to a campsite). so, something with 70/30 tires. Here, in the USA, sizing between 650 and 900cc are limited. So, when CF MOTO came around, I was a bit sceptic. But the reviews speak for themselves. Royal Enfield makes some really nice bikes, (followed Itchy Boots) before, falling in love with your page. But everything I buy, has to fit me, not the other way around.
Benelli is in a big name here. The only thing that Benelli sells well is there microbes. I like the 135 cc but you don’t see Benelli anywhere else like for instance Moto Guzy here in Florida. There’s only two locations one in Miami, Florida, and one in Tampa Florida.which in each direction is about 140 miles from my home
Yes you were wrong. Too busy stroking your own ego to realise what a himmy should be used for. 24 bhp is sufficient for some of the roads I ride and could spank someone trying to ride 100bhp on the same roads
The great thing about motorcycles is the selection available each great in their own way and in their own respective environment. 24hp is no good to me for how and where i ride, BUT the new 40hp is now closer to the mark. As long as you enjoy your motorcycle it matters not which cc or which brand it is, as long as it puts a smile on your face
I’ve got a Himalayan 450 with same engine . Rode it around Picos in Spain then back through France to UK and averaged 77 mpg all in. Brilliant bike.
Thats very good, those savings will add up quickly
I've gone from a 1290 ktm adventure to a cf moto 450 mt and would not go back. Nothing to do with cost but a light bike that's fun, we'll made and good quality. Once you stop buying with your ego the smaller bikes are much better
I am really interested in this bike actually, it looks like a real do it all. Whats the service intervals on it?
@ontheroadadventure hmmm I think it's low at 3000 miles but I expect they will increase to 6000. It's a great bike, a twin that sounds great. It's still a 450 so no rocket ship nut decent enough. I'm sure you have but take a look at nathan the postman views of it :)
Is it smooth to ride? or vibrates like this one? 3k miles would be no good to me especially if i need to find a dealer to service it in order to keep the warranty, it would cost me a fortune with the miles we do
@mattstringer7838 my dealer informed me that the cf moto is 620 first service and then 6000 4 years warranty and the 7 year European brakedown cover subject to honouring the service schedule
@ontheroadadventure I test rode the himmy 450 and was literally numb after. The cf moto is much smoother , i added the larger front sprocket to reduce revs at 70 mph. It's a lot smoother than the himmy. It also sounds great. I'm sure the service interval will be extended. I had an AT 1100 and just found it really top heavy to so I always feel for your guys having to turn around on small gravel roads fully loaded
As I said on FB, I've moved from 1000cc bikes to both a RE 650 Interceptor and a 350 Bullet! The Bullet has 20hp and has been the most fun I've had on a bike for years. I wouldn't take it on a motorway though! The 650 twin is a great A and B road blaster too, without worrying about my licence.
Royal Enfield defo need to have a little more time from me, i do love how the 650's look
Just changed in August from a VStrom 1043 cc to an Aprilia 457 cc. Tried the RE 650’s, 350’s and the Moto Guzzi V7. I returned from a test ride and saw the Aprilia. Having never ridden a sportsbike I took the chance to try one. And it felt like it was the right bike for me. Yes it has a lot less power but it still reaches speeds where you will loose your licence and moving it around in storage is a lot easier.
Yes these size bikes can still go fast enough to get you in trouble! As long as you return from a ride smiling then that is all that matters, the fact that it will also save you money is a bonus
@@ontheroadadventure The Aprilia too is built in India btw!
Well done on the presentation, Rich. Very listenable and intelligently presented. There are a lot of reviewers out there that I just have to turn off after a minute or two. Good luck to you and Ewa with the channel, but please don't lose the natural humour and banter you both have.
Thanks Chris, Dont worry, We are all about the banter!
I had the same pre-conceptions as you. I speak as a biker of over 40 years' experience. My last 4 bikes have been GSA's. I felt it was time to downsize, and test rode several makes and models.
I plumped for the new Himalayan 450 in the end, because it put a massive grin on my face during the time I had it.
The engine is brilliant, its a good size bike for me (i'm 6ft2). I have a feeling it will go anywhere I want it to. I get no vibes at all, I have a suspicion that demo bikes are ragged from day one, and careful running in is a must.
I'm wondering if it's the best bike I've ever owned!
If its nut run in gently it will always be a bad bike
It feels like allot of people are coming to a similar conclusion as we all begin to ask ourselves what we actually need, Its so easy to be sold the latest and biggest Adventure bike but how many of us are actually able to use it to its full potential
@@BMWgsrider905 and yet the fireblades loved some abuse they made 5-10 more BHP on the dyno than ones that had been nannied
Royal enfeild continental-gt 650 iv been riding as my daily bike iv always riden 600 to 650cc over the years great bikes Royal enfield iv tried the 350j engine bike for 2 years made lots of videos on my channel and big smile on my face every time iv riden them stay safe guys
Thanks bud, my fav looking RE bike is the Interceptor
@@ontheroadadventure get one thay are a great bike to ride
I'll be honest I was put off it by a couple of reviews at the launch, I won't name them but neither could ride for toffee and them raving about it really made me wonder. Thanks for a straightforward honest review from someone who can actually ride. Cheers, great as ever.
Thanks bud, Much appreciated
Having been on bikes year's ago, I have now retired and decided to get back on two wheels while I still can. Looking around for a mid powered bike, I have absolutely no need for speed, I have just purchased a RE 650 twin Interceptor (second hand) and I'm loving it. Plenty of power, turns heads and sounds lovely. RE are new to me as a Honda fan boy, but my goodness what a great experience ❤
I love the sound of the Interceptor, especially with a nice set of S & S Pipes! Enjoy
I'm over 100kg, ride a Honda 500x. 27,000 miles in under 3 years. Love it. It's fast enough, light, simple and economical. Will be doing a tour of Ireland next summer with a few 1250 and 900 BMW's. I'm confident it's the better bike for the single track twisties roads of Western Ireland 😊
We rode the 500x around Sicily for a couple weeks and loved it, great machine 👍
Definitely a size of bike I’m interested in ideal for those coffee stops and short blasts on the motorway , great review
Thanks garry, theres so many in the middleweight class it would be very hard to choose one
I think you are right. Costs are a big consideration these days and also simpler the better for crossing the globe easier to fix with limited tools etc. Good review.
Thanks Chris, Yes theres allot to be said for simple bikes with little tech to go wrong
For me money would be the biggest draw to these smaller bikes, If I can do the same rides at a cheaper price then it makes economical sense to me. Well done for a open minded fair review
Its fair to say this is becoming more and more important to riders as the Cost of living crisis in the uk continues to make things harder for Average joe..
I think we are all becoming seriously jaded with the bigger more tech dependant humongous expensive to buy, own and fix adventure behemoths with all their unnecessary gadgets and gizmos, and heading back to happier simpler lighter mid size times...I mean just LOOK at the new BMW GSA 1300 - its a preposterous motorcycle, emperor's new clothes....
Agreed, that bike is massive! You dont Normally see seasoned travellers going round the world on these bikes, the more you have, the more can go wrong
Some years ago I owned a 1982 Yamaha XS650, which did not impress me power wise spoken. It wasn't fast at all... But you're absolutely right; it is much more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow; I had so much fun with this slow bike, no really!
My current Yamaha MT-01 (1670Cc) thumpin' V-twin in a Yamaha R1 frame with R1 suspension front and rear and also R1 brakes is not fast by any means but dancing with this big girl along a river following road and those two exhaust pipes right under your seat barking...oh man, no really, who needs speed anyway... I have the most fun at low speeds with only 90 Horse Power but 150 Nm Torque.
So in a way the size of the engine has grown, but it still isn't a fast bike, and yet I don't care. So I fully understand your statement about mid-sized motorcycles; they rock ! You can have such a fun riding these bikes... You should take a bike like this to the river Mosel in Germany and ride along the river and dance with her.... man you'll fall in love with her ! Ask me how I know.. ;-)
Man did you sell that MT01 to me then!
@@ontheroadadventure Well..., I'd rather keep her for now if you don't mind, the love is still there you know, but I am sure you'll be able to get one, if you really want one... ;-) Yamaha has done this the same recipe a few times now: Take a grand thumpin' V-twin and put it in a regular naked bike: In the early 80s: The Yamaha TR1, and then a little later in the early 2000s The Yamaha BT1100 Bulldog and then as off 2005 the Yamaha MT-01. They obviously did the same trick with different models and different engines, like the Yamaha SR500 --> creating the absolute very first Off-Road machine in the world: The Yamaha XT500 and how about the Yamaha Venture --> creating the very first drag bike the Yamaha V-Max and so on... Yamaha therefor was mostly the very first to come up with a new kind of bike no-one had ever seen before... Yamaha therefor is the inventor, most other makes are copiers of the ideas Yamaha came up with ;-) Just trying to make friend here...hahaha
I have always been a fan of Yamaha, i do like the T7
@@ontheroadadventure T7... ? That's the real thing, and created based upon almost 50 years of developing the very first Off-Road bike ever: The Yamaha XT500 and also based up on 45 Years of race experience in the first Paris-Dakar and later The Dakar rally.
Nice review, I think it's a good bike but i personally would buy a Himalayan now at 73 it would be all i would need. My best wishes to you from the Philippines ♥️💪👍😉😀😁🏁🏍️🛺🐑🇵🇭🏴⭐
Both are a fine choice 👍
In my time in the 70 when I whas a little boy 16 years old i was driving German made bikes kreitler zunndap and Puch maximum speed 80 km that were good times in Amsterdam getting many girls that time
Sweet memories! Bikes provide life times of them. Thats why we love them so much... All motorcycles do this and have this effect
Yeah ouch, zundapp, motobecane, Raleigh and the jap 50cc
Thanks for showing this great review mate! Years ago, i was lucky enough to have a tour around the old Royal Enfield factory in Chennai (Madras) , back in those day's (just over 20 years ago) I remember well that when they did the rolling test, they would hang an old tin can to the handlebars with just enough fuel for the testing, it was all really basic..... but so real :)
In 4 weeks time i'll be on a testride with the Himalayan 450 in India lol, cant wait for that :)
Looking forward to your next travel vids 👍 Greetz Mick in Holland 🖖
India looks crazy, what a place to ride! Enjoy your trip bud
Hey Rich, take the Super Meteor 650 for a spin, I have one and absolutely love it, best bikes I have ever owned.
I rode one some time back now, great machine. I do prefer the twin engine
Same here Karina 👍🏻
I took a Vespa 300 GTS to France. No problem. Admittedly I wasn’t camping. I reckon Guerilla would be great for a touring adventure especially if staying on A roads
We need a loan of a couple vespas to go to Italy and drink espresso! Never ridden one
@@ontheroadadventureI found the 300 better than a bike around town. When the 600s caught me up at the next lights they would exclaim’what the hell have you got in that?’ They used to think it was a moped 😂
Single cylinder you are going to feel that in the pegs brother. But its like you said its down to how hard
you push it. They are excellent bikes especially for the older rider wanting to stay on a bike but still
have a bit of capability from the machine. Also the build quality and price is exceptional .
Cake and tea nice.😁
I have to say, it impressed me, much more than i thought it would. Royal Enfield have done very well over the last few years and for good reason i believe. I'd Like more time on the Royal Enfields
I had a RE Hunter 350, it was a lovely bike, but it failed your motorway test…sadly it did not have enough power to handle the motorway traffic flow. I swapped it for a Super Meteor 650 and it was transformative. The extra power made all the difference. The only criticism I have it’s a touch heavy for me, but I’m a 5’6, 63 yr old woman…so it’s all about confidence and technique lol.
Does this mean the Voges have gone back…I could really see you buying them 😇👍🏻
I have ridden a 350 before and i didnt go far on the test ride, i knew it wasnt for me that one. The 650 twin is a different game. We have our final thoughts coming soon on the voges before Doing something new...
Wow 🤩 Good for you !!!!
Lovely coloured motorbike. We will try one out for a few days in Goa in January
Very cool!! You guys need to have a channel so we can follow you!
@@ontheroadadventure ha ha there’s a thought!
Thank you for another brilliant video. I am interested in the Himalayan 450 as a second bike to Triumph Tiger sport 660. I live in West Sussex. Three bike shops have closed down.
Were the shops part of the completly motorcycle group?
RE began in, I think, 1896 making bicycles. Its first motorcycle was in 1901 The Himmi 450 has enough performance for the legal speed limits and will take you literally anywhere you want to go, on road or off road, It is comfortable and who needs lots of power and speed other than for something to brag about,
This will get the job done for sure 👍
I've just stepped down from the cf moto 650mt down to the new cf moto 450 clc cruiser due to health reasons and I can honestly say I'm loving it the difference in weight alone I think it's around 6 stone lighter and more manageable for me now and also certainly no slouch on the motorway either plenty enough for me now and a pleasure to ride
Does it have the 3k mile service intervals like the 450 MT?
@@ontheroadadventure first service 620 mls then ever 6000 mls 4 year warranty and 7 years European brakedown cover subject to the service schedule
Wow. That is standing behind their product. Very impressive Provided they can supply the parts as and when needed. I know of some one who had the 650mt and needed a fuel pump part or similiar, he waited months, so long he gave up and bought a honda instead
@@ontheroadadventure I can only assume they might have a central warehouse or establishing on in Germany as I know my dealer ordered something for another customer and it was delivered next day to northern Ireland so fingers crossed 🤞 😆
Our average age is getting higher is one factor among many, a lot of us are downsizing now...
This could well be true, but i have to say we are appreciating lighter smaller bikes too
Looking at the revs/speed it looks identical to my new 450 Himalayan 4000rpm 50mph initial running in and the trip computer showed 99.9mpg on Vpower super unleaded - not bothering with e95 or the Eco mode. Now after first service, with 6000rpm 70mph until 1200 miles there is nothing lacking, either local roads or the A38, brillaint over dartmoor. Pretty sure it will be 90mpg everywhere once running in completed and 'dropping down' from a bmw r1200RS, which I am keeping, this range of bikes is not a small engine or what I consider a downgrade. The engine vibrations really do reduce after the first service and the engine did feel very tight from new but every mile gets better and Chris at CMS was correct. This engine will surprise many people - check out the feedback from 'fuzzy biker' who has now covered an amazing 11,000 miles in less than two months,
They do seem to be getting great feed back form owners, A very respectable machine at a great price
You're going to get a lot more fun riding low powered bikes closer to their limits than the big powerful 1000+cc bike at a quarter of its capabilities.
On the right roads i agree
you make a valid point..
Its all about having the right tool for the job, if this size bike suits your needs it doesnt make sense to pay more per mile on a larger bike
I keep thinking about a smaller bike for work but it’s got to be able to take luggage for my kit.
I think the best value bike has to be that Voge 900
I believe you can get luggage for the Himalayan 450, Theres honda CB500X or Benellie TRK 502/702.... So much Choice!!
Hi friends, I have new tip for you. Find these; GPX motors from Thailand...we like them to import and sell in NL. Btw, if you come again to Netherlands lets talk.
Thanks, we will look out for them.
Have the 400x and has no problem going 70-80 mph and amazing gas mileage around 80 mpg
I really rate the triumph too, we had both the x and speed on load for a few weeks and both are very good machines
@ both are great …currently have super meteor 400x and for speed xsr too many motorcycles but like this guerilla
That’s a great selection!
I've just subscribed to your Channel you 2 are Great together and your videos are really real and interesting very good content for us Bikers 👍👍😎😎🏍🏍🏍Keep up the Great videos 📹 keep safe have fun 👍 📹📹🏍🏍😎😎🌞🌞🌨🌨🏍🏍📹📹
Thanks so much, Great to have you with us.
@ontheroadadventure Thanks you both need to get a Triumph 900 GT PRO as tour next Adventure Bikes 🏍 😀 🏍🏍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I had one bud, mine was Black you can see me riding it in our older videos like this one... ua-cam.com/video/ZYvNWohggNk/v-deo.htmlsi=64Fg7_h4DMYhkW5P
@ontheroadadventure just watched the video, I've just got Triumph GT PRO, My first Adventure bike I love it, I'm looking forward to some Great Adventures ahead in 2025
I don’t want to do frequent gear shifts in traffic. Can i install 43 tooth rear sprocket to guerrilla 450?
I cant see why not... lots of people mess with the gearing to make it better suited to the riding style of choice
good review 👍
Thanks, these smaller bikes do bring some real advantages to the table
Great review.
Thanks ☺️
For me I don’t think this 450 would be enough for me but I would consider the royal Enfield if it was a 650
I would love to see that, a 650 twin Himalayan would be amazing, a little more power but also a reduction in vibration at higher speeds would be welcome. Ive always quite like the look of the interceptor 650, i must go and ride one
Would the 650 really be a big difference from the 450? When looking at hp figures, a 20 hp bike is not twice as fast as a 10 hp bike, a 40 hp bike is not twice as fast as a 20 hp bike.
Will the extra 7 hp between the 450 and 650 make that much difference, with the 650 weight increase?
👋 I got on order a Honda cb125F new from Honda 🇫🇷 I took on demo out I love it so I got 1️⃣ I getting in 2 weeks 🕰️ and I got side boxes with a top box all in for 2,345 euros inc insurance & taxes ❤❤
Wow thats a Really good price!! I think you have Chosen very well there
great little bikes
I have to say, I can see the draw to them
I would like to see an adventure done by you and Eva, on such a bike.
We will see what we can do....
You can ride the world on a c50 and people have. I tried the himalyan 450 and tho i performed well and handled well, it road as if a rigid frame.
Go slow see more approach suits us, but you cant do that on the motorway!
True Rich!
What did you like more ? The Triumph 400 series or the Guerrilla ?
Best regards
For me, id take the Triumph Scrambler, i like the bigger upright position
@ how tall are you ?
Always can rely on you Rich for a good honest review 👍🏼 The surprise in your voice said it all when you had it in Performance mode!!! Most people that do reviews on these mid range bikes usually state there’s not much difference??? But I suspect they usually ride sports bikes ??? Shame about the use of the name Sherpa on the engine, just reminds me of the Leyland Sherpa vans I drove back in the day which were absolutely shite 😂😂 but I’m sure this is not the case with the Enfield! As in my opinion they produce fantastic motorcycles 👍🏼 Keep up the excellent reviews mate 😎
Thanks bud, there’s no doubt there’s a difference between the modes 👍
What we need now is for RE to put this engine in their new Scrambler instead of/ as well as the 650cc engine. Not everyone wants engines over 500cc these days.
This could be the base for a good Scrambler Project... I do love a custom bike
I have tried downsizing but it did mot go well. I will not knock anyone that finds the smaller / middleweight bikes right for them.
I found the smaller capacity bikes fast enough but not powerful enough. They are constantly close to full throttle to maintain speed, and lack the effortless overtaking ability.
I am sure I will now be shot down by people with different opinions. I am now riding the heaviest and largest capacity bike I have ever owned at the age of 69, and hope I can manage for a few more years.
Out of curiousity which bike did you have and is it s BMW GSA you have now?
I have tried downsizing a few times over the years. The last time was a Suzuki Inazuma 250. This bike lasted 18 months before I moved it on. I purchased a BMW R1150RT as a stop gap bike for less than I got for the Inazuma and kept that bike over 5 years. I then looked at downsizing again but decided against it and purchased a six year old BMW K1600 GT with 16500 miles on the clock in June this year. I have put 5000 miles on the clock, so far so good. I love the bike.
The bike looks very good four a india made bike india is the next china with niew verry good motorbikes on the market
They have been at it for a long time, making the Triumph 400's now too
Made in the largest democratic country in the world, so no issues there. 👍 The service internals have improved somewhat with this new generation of engine but I think it's still unrefined with older engineering compared to its Japanese counterparts. I've absolutely no idea why you'd need different riding modes on a 40 bhp motorcycle!
No idea, but i could feel a difference between modes to be fair. I think eco is better for city riding
I agree a smaller lighter bike but… this is still lacking in my opinion. It needs another 10-20bhp to still be exciting. My very old Honda cb500 was 60bhp and probably lighter than this. They still race the 500s. Having tested a lot of bikes, yes 48bhp is ok as transport but if you want that overtaking thrill that still excites me then 70bhp is my sweet spot. Just my opinion I think it’s as ugly as…
Like many older riders, we want twin clocks. I know I am in the minority and many love RE but I don’t.
I test rode the himalayan24bhp and the 650. Even the 650 did not impress me. Then again I have had a few 250/300 scooters which are only 24-34bhp and loved them. It’s a different purpose though. I still like a thrill occasionally. I am still unconvinced on their reliability and longevity. Lots of vloggers having to replace/repair parts. Give me a light 500cc with 70bhp with Japanese build. Great review Rich. Not a negative comment just my own thoughts. Rest day rider has gone from RE to a CF Moto and I think what she says is right.
To put it into perspective my 2 stroke 250s used to do just under a ton and I still went up to 500 and 750 and beyond. I could not stand the vibes
That CF moto looks impressive i cant wait to ride one. Also the T7 fits nicely in that sweet spot but is a bit tall. I guess i just like all bikes and respect each for their Pros and cons... The unicorn doesnt exist yet.... Which is probably a good thing...
Great to see you on something other than that damn Voge Rich I have been glazing over watching you harp on about that thing . 😉👍
Lol - Love your Honesty! What can i say, its been great but yes the voge gets a final thoughts video and then its going back and we will have something new to show you...
The question nobody asked, is can a RE rider handle doubling of Horse power😅
Perhaps RE are looking to gain a new customer base, i mean this one did get my attention whereas the 24hp Previous Himmy did not...
@ontheroadadventure Or seeing pictures off Himmys and 350,s classics with 14.4 bhp at rear wheel clogging up the crawler lanes forcing Trucks to overtake them.😂
It's never about the bikes, it's about me. I'm 6'4" tall, and weigh in a just under 300 pounds. and coming off of a Honda Goldwing. I still need something in the mid-range market, for my size. Just for me, a 650cc bike, would get me from zero to sixty in four hours and fifteen minutes. I wanted something in the 800 range, just to have a little comfort. But, after spending 24,500.00 on my wing. I'm looking at toning if down a lot. Price ranges in the 8 to 12 K range. I'll ride 95% road, and 5% trails. (only to get to a campsite). so, something with 70/30 tires. Here, in the USA, sizing between 650 and 900cc are limited. So, when CF MOTO came around, I was a bit sceptic. But the reviews speak for themselves. Royal Enfield makes some really nice bikes, (followed Itchy Boots) before, falling in love with your page. But everything I buy, has to fit me, not the other way around.
Have you got Benelli over there, the 702 x is good and tall for you, or there’s the Yamaha Tenere that would fit for you
@@ontheroadadventure when you guys trade in your twins, I'll buy Awe's, you guys going after the Voge 900's?
Benelli is in a big name here. The only thing that Benelli sells well is there microbes. I like the 135 cc but you don’t see Benelli anywhere else like for instance Moto Guzy here in Florida. There’s only two locations one in Miami, Florida, and one in Tampa Florida.which in each direction is about 140 miles from my home
no they are press bikes
Anyone on here 5ft 3 like me as I want to know if you are on tippy toes or flat footed as I'm interested in this bike 😊
Have you looked at the triumph speed 400? Similar bike but I think it will be lower
@ontheroadadventure yes I'm looking at that one too but heard it's not as good as the royal enfield though
I think both are good bikes, Id have no problem buying the Triumph, for the money i think its a great bike
👌👌👌👍
Thanks for joining us, would you consider a 450cc?
I can't stand that odometer not in the middle
I’m sure you can relocate it
Yes you were wrong. Too busy stroking your own ego to realise what a himmy should be used for. 24 bhp is sufficient for some of the roads I ride and could spank someone trying to ride 100bhp on the same roads
The great thing about motorcycles is the selection available each great in their own way and in their own respective environment. 24hp is no good to me for how and where i ride, BUT the new 40hp is now closer to the mark. As long as you enjoy your motorcycle it matters not which cc or which brand it is, as long as it puts a smile on your face