Every Mythical Inaccuracy in Marvel's Thor & Avengers
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What should the next “Every Inaccuracy” video be?
I’m not sure if you have do it yet but definitely the Percy Jackson books
Maybe some older movies like Clash of the Titans or Jason and the Argonauts
Norse God of war in a decade 🙌
@@adhamwashere5320 yh that would definitely be good
Make this a series. Do all the Thor and Avengers movies.
Agents of shield has Sif and a Berserker and Asgard stuff as well.
Idk where else, but anywhere there's Norse stuff would be fantastic
I was completely and utterly shocked when he revealed that Thor does not join a team of super heroes in Norse mythology. Just like the elevators from Ancient Greece.
Hephaestus did pretty much created robots with artificial intelligence though.
The Aseir are a supervillain team, so same thing
Owen Wilson - wow
ancient Greece had elevators?
@@ACrusaderCBCforeverin God of War they have, lots even
The "If they be worthy" enchantment on Mjolnir was apparently thought up by Marvel because in these stories Thor is interacting with superheroes (as opposed to the kinds of heroes you find in the old sagas) - the suggestion that Mjolnir is too heavy for anyone but Thor to lift wouldn't have really gelled with a universe where superpowers are a thing.
Especially with characters who are comparable in terms of strength such as the Hulk and Hercules
It's taken from the Excalibur myth.
@@henrygambles3652HERACLES😂
@@antona.8659yeap
Granted, even Thor isn't supposed to be able to. Side note: The Hulk lifts it in some continuities.
What’s even more confusing is that he’s shown to shapeshift multiple times in the films but somehow never thought to use it here
Maybe he didn't know what the exact eye looked like or was on a time schedule? Just spitballing.
He wasn't interested in doing what Hawkeye was set off to do. So it's more for the mortal's need than Loki's.
Loki wants to play with the people. :)
Please read all of my description speech below:
Trolls: Are giants or dwarves that have long pointy noses, ears that hang down pass their chests, skinny looking, have rough skin, have canine jaws, can blend into the trees as camouflage, they have different skin colors that are different from a normal human, sometimes they have branches that grow on their skin. They can shapeshift into rocks. They can only show themselves to heroes of mythology, demigods, and deities. Trolls will not show themselves to any mortal being. Any mortal being cannot see a troll. Trolls is what makes nature of animals, waterways, ponds, rocks, and trees. Trolls live in Midgard. Its to explain the rocks and stones in Scandinavia. Is this the correct physical appearance description of a troll in the original Old Norse myths before Christianity took over Scandinavia? Is this true?
The point of that scene is that Loki is drawing the Avengers' attention away from Hawkeye with the intent to get captured so he can manipulate the Hulk and destroy the Avengers. Hawkeye stealing portal materials is not his primary goal
It could be that he can’t copy someone perfectly and thus wouldn’t get past the scanner
I would like to note that if Mjolnir was mythologically acurate, Hulk would have been able to lift it, as Hulk would just get more and more angry failing to lift it.
Indeed
Dude, if Mjolnir was Accurate, it would have been a damn planet-cracker _at dead minimum!!!_
Hulk's able to lift it on the comic for that exact reason
Hulk would be terrifying with Mjolnir ngl
mjolnir is the heaviest thing in existensce in north myth so it might be heavier than yggdrasil hulk cant lift that he has not unlimted strength
I'm actually happy you acknowledged the realms not being different planets and actually being walking distance from each other in the Myth, cuz that is often something a lot of people get wrong.
Probably as a result of new scientific knowledge or confusion with Marvel.
@@jeffreygao3956 Oh no doubt. To be fair, I do actually think it is an interesting spin on the myth, and a cool way of explaining them still existing today. I also do like Marvel's alien take on the nine realms and their inhabitants, I think it's super creative. But it is not very myth accurate.
yeah in one story it took nine days for Thor to go from Asgard to Jotunheim, and I don't know if his two goats were ever mentioned being super fast so it's a relatively short trip if you think of it that way
@@eg_manifest510 Exactly. The Nine Realms are not really any different from the States of the US, just regions bordering each other. Sure, some are higher up in the mountains, while others are beneath the earth, but still.
@@eg_manifest510from what i recall, his goats are so fast that they set fire on the ground and can destroy mountains by running at them, so they might be pretty fast
Comic history fact: See, Thor was supposed to be like Marvel’s Superman, so they gave him a red cape, but it clashed with his red hair, so they made him blond. And Sif was blonde too, so they changed the story where Loki cuts off her hair but can’t afford the new ones, so they get hair made from darkness which is supposedly prettier
He kinda is when he became a joke
Please read all of my description speech below:
Trolls: Are giants or dwarves that have long pointy noses, ears that hang down pass their chests, skinny looking, have rough skin, have canine jaws, can blend into the trees as camouflage, they have different skin colors that are different from a normal human, sometimes they have branches that grow on their skin. They can shapeshift into rocks. They can only show themselves to heroes of mythology, demigods, and deities. Trolls will not show themselves to any mortal being. Any mortal being cannot see a troll. Trolls is what makes nature of animals, waterways, ponds, rocks, and trees. Trolls live in Midgard. Its to explain the rocks and stones in Scandinavia. Is this the correct physical appearance description of a troll in the original Old Norse myths before Christianity took over Scandinavia? Is this true?
@@taylorfusher2997ahhh, cool story I guess?
That’s wrong. Thor is supposed to be blonde. He was only described as red-haired by christians, but the vikings described him as having gold hair or light hair and Jack Kirby based the decision to make him blonde on that not the cape thing.
I will address the red carpe that a lie he where a capw for a complete different reasons not because he supposed to be Superman because of you did not know he was supposed to be more like a male wonderwoman
Now why do he where a quite simple because the artist thought it will looked cool not those words they said more glamorous
Fun Fact about the Jötnar, the Jötnar aren't really considered "Giants" in the oldest Norse Texts. They're actually just a race of deific god-like beings that are no different from the Æsir. Of course, some individuals like Sürtr, Útgarða-Loki, and especially Ymir are indeed massive, but gigantism is not a defining trait. So the Æsir (or Asgardians) are basically just Third Gen Jötnar.
I wouldn't say that they are third gen Jotunn. It would be more like divergent evolution where they have a similar ancestors but end up as different species. Also having the name giants does not mean you are giant. Much like how the titans in Greek myth aren't titanic is size.
Eh, the Æsir are more like a rival clan or tribe compared to the jǫtnar.
Pretty much like the Titans
It seems like most Jotnar with any sort of detailed description are described as being giant.
1. Skrymir/Utgard-Loki is so big that Thor, Loki, Thialfi, and Roskva were able to spend a night inside one of his mittens!
2. Rungnir's leg falls on Thor after their duel, and no one is strong enough to lift his leg off of Thor until Magni shows up.
3. Hymir brings back two whales from one fishing trip.
@@Blokewood3 Again, that's mostly due to some Jötnar being big, but that doesn't automatically make them Giants. Think about Humans, some of them are born with Gigantism, which causes them to become abnormally big. Yet, they're not considered Giants. Just because *some* Jötnar are massive, it doesn't automatically make all Jötnar Giants.
When I was learning more about Norse mythology, I noticed one interesting thing about Ymir and Surtr. They are not only symbolise two different elements like ice and fire but also they symbolise deeper meaning.Ymir symbolise the beginning of all because the most of the universe was created from his corpse while Surtr symbolise the end, because he destroyed the universe.
Even the Norse predicted global warming.
Not hard to predict something that happens on a regular basis on the planet...
@@Richdragon4 Weirdly enough, a warming period coincided with the start of Viking raids on other European kingdoms.
All I know is that Ymir f*cked Eren Jaeger's life.
As far as I know he didn't destroyed the universe. It was mostly Ragnarök. He just killed the last remaining life forms.
Minor quibble: Thor did not need his belt to wield Mjolnir, since he was strong enough to outmatch any Jotun even without it, and as you point out, it was stolen several times... by people who did not have his belt.
He *did* need his gloves, however, and it was definitely powerful enough to flatten mountains in the hands of Thor. Which is a thing that happened.
Maybe the belt just gives him more stability when he swings it.
Center of mass being lower, he wouldn't be flinging himself around quite as much.
he needed the belt and gloves to wield it properly. it's like saying I can move a sandbag but, would need extra help to throw a sandbag any helpful distance.
Regarding that “giant impenetrable wall” that Asgard is supposed to have, they DO have an energy shield in the sequel.
Addressed in the Every Mythical Inaccuracy in Thor: The Dark World video.
But that should be in a form of wall ok then the shield which you are talking about is in orange colour did the giant made it ? Hm ?
As a guy who loves comics and read a little of Norse myth you can tell modern thor is very different. Classic marvel thor from the jack Kirby era was ironically closer to the source material because jack Kirby was a huge mythology nerd and wanted to craft his interpretation of his favorite myths.
The stories may be similar, but there's no way Thor hadn't a beard in the myths.
@@timgorg1919 I like imagining a strawberry blonde Thor but that is basically just mixing the blonde from the Thor fights the Giants 1872 painting(which was likely a heavy influence on Marvel's Thor) along with red from God of War.
I don't think Homecoming was suggesting that Stark made the belt, because it is still called "magical". I think he just has it in his tower for some weird reason.
it got Changed to Avengers Tower after the first Avengers movie so he probably had a room in the Tower
@@maj0ra124 True, but why would he leave it there when he goes back to Asgard?
@@janm3781Idk, maybe he just forgot it?
@@maj0ra124 That seems reasonsble, depending on how much mead and Fimbulwinter he drank at his last evening there. 🍺😁
maybe happy just called it magic because thor is a magical dude and honestly if it were me i would also call it "thors magic belt" even if i knew stark made it
One of the biggest inaccuracies in these movies is Odin’s character:
Odin in Norse mythology is extremely cynical, selfish and manipulative. He’s a warmonger, he creates wars between humans to harvest them for his army.
He is a wanderer: He seeks knowledge and magic from all corners of the realms, augmenting his power and wisdom for the end times.
He is a trickster, even more so than Loki. He once tricked nine slaves to kill each other so he could steal their jobs.
Mythological Odin is my all-time favourite character, and though I am a fan of Marvels character, I want people to differentiate between them.
That sounds quite a lot like the comic version, actually.
I actually like that you talked about that because Odin, while definitely not as petty or as worse as Zeus, is still not necessarily a good person. A lot of people I’ve talked to don’t really think of him as a bad guy per se because while it’s true that it’s stated that he alongside his two brothers created the Nine Realms and humans that’s really all he ever did for humans. It doesn’t really say anywhere that he cares about humans or really any of the rest of his creations and the Jotunns were actually demonized by Christians because the original texts stated that the Jotunns were just giants and while some of them were chaotic, some of them like Angrboda were not. Similar to how some Titans like Kronos were chaotic whereas others like Rhea and Prometheus weren’t. And seeing characters like Fenrir, Jormungandr, and Hel as the bad guys is just kinda wrong given the actual lore which states that none of them had done anything wrong before they were bound, casted, and banished into chains, the sea, and helheim respectively. They were just children of a trickster deity whom like Set was never really a villain in the original texts and it’s just also pisses me off seeing once again a snake and a wolf as the bad guys. Both Loki and Set were just gods associated with trickery and chaos but even then Set was basically best friends with Ra and Loki actually helped Odin cheat Jotunns out of deals and acted as his scapegoat in original texts.
MCU Odin was oddly enough more like his mythical version in his youth.
Wach thor ragnarok
Odin was Tolkien's primary inspiration for Gandalf.
Honestly, interesting enough, while the destroyer doesn't exist in Norse mythology, Talos, a mechanical giant from Greek mythology has certain similarities:
Both are large, metal, are designed for the purpose of guarding, and have an internal firery furnace
The ancient Greeks invented a story about giant anime fighting robots 💀
@@felixlara2945Giant anime robots is nothing. There's an ancient Greek book called A True Story that features space travel, interstellar warfare, and *moon femboys*. It was written like 2200 years ago.
If I'm not mistaken, there is a mechanical giant in Norse mythology, or a stone giant which is close enough. It is not called The Destroyer though.
Thank you for making this video. Having to explain Marvel does not equal Norse mythology is sometimes getting frustrating. Now we have a comprehensive video to point them to.
if anyone says that Marvel is accurate then point to the scene of Loki refusing a drink
I always had the impression the 'Nornheim' bit was a joke about Thor's head still reeling. After all he did just get hit by a car at bifrost speeds
Nornheim is a comic thing
@@LiMe251 Ooh, I didn't know that. As much as I loved Thor in the comics I never really got a chance to read any of his runs
@@azazelreeds "Nornheim, the Asgardian province is where dwell the Three Norns, the Goddesses of Destiny, and Karnilla who has become one of the most accomplished practitioners of the arts of sorcery in the Asgardian dimension. Although Nornheim lies on the Asgardian land mass within Asgard's own dimension, and although Karnilla is apparently of the Asgardian race, she does not consider herself to be subject to Asgardian rule. Rather, Nornheim is an independent country, of which Karnilla is absolute monarch." Source: Marvel Database [note: this is the 616 one, there is also a battlerealm version of it]
It would be cool if there were some series where it is actually true, and completely story accurate episodes showing stories from many different mythologies
Honestly I’d love to watch an animated series about it, I think it would thrive if it aired on Adult Swim, granted there would still be a few artistic liberties and mythological changes like just how brutal Thor is against some of the Jötnar. They could make super dramatic or super comedic or try a fine line.
@@Writing_Gamer_513 i like that idea, though i meant entirely accurate without any changes no matter how small
Only if the writing team consults the culture first. Hollywood is a business and you know how they butcher everything just for relevance.
@@swankierSpy2658you don't want that for Greek or Norse mythology 😅😅😅 you know rape, bestiality so idk about that and even worst stuff most things will need to be cut off along with Egyptian mythology so no thanks
Just remember #lokisaystransrights
I know you mention the fact that Loki and Odin don’t have a father-son relationship, however there is no direct mention of Thor and Loki not being raised as brothers in this wonderful and hilarious video. Maybe it would’ve been cool to explain the dynamic Thor and Loki have in Norse mythology so that we get even more educative value.
This is still great fun! Keep up the good work!
I couldn’t be sure that Thor didn’t consider Loki a brother in the same way all the Asgardians are brothers in arms or some such so it wasn’t something I mentioned. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you!
@@TheMythologyGuy1 You do great videos, TMG.
I like thinking of Loki as Thor's uncle.
@@jeffreygao3956right, the annoying, "fun" uncle.
Butt secs lol.... jk maybe
I remember seeing the first Thor movie in theatres as a kid. In the drive home I said that I wanted to learn more of Norse mythology and my dad responded, “this movie pretty much covered it all.”
That was the lie of the century.
He was protecting you
@@Noone-d6u Really now? Norse mythology is perfectly family friendly! There's incest, murder, war, PTSD casually disregarded, racism, and trans rights activism! Totally appropriate for children!
Funny thing about that maiden line about Sif is like, not only is all of her character wrong, women in Norse society did often get to fight if need be, and in Asgard more so because the Valkyries exist
Also note on the hammer, While everything you said is correct on the myth side, I'm pretty sure the part where he's speaking is him placing the enchantment, which considering Odin does know magic, could hypothetically be possible, even if it never did
No, norse women did not got to fight, never mind "often".
Yeah, most Norse women stayed home to raise the children while their husbands went ‘viking.’ It seems the shield maidens were almost exclusively for nobility.
A Norse god turning down alcohol had me questioning my existence at that point
Same
Maybe Loki was trolling you guys?
@@jeffreygao3956hah nice pun
It's almost as unrealistic as someone making Zeus a virgin
@@TheBlueKing10t that is mahogany!
I'm kind of shocked he didn't mention anything about Sleipnir in this movie because the horse does make an appearance in this movie when Odin saves Thor and his friends from the Frost Giants.
I mean Sleipnir does exist and it wasn't innaccurate with only small exception of sleipnir not being the child of loki
#Lokisaystransrights
@xdbobxd181 it's also missing a few legs
He is also of human intelligence & can talk. HE can travel through the air.
@@badplay156 Movie Sleipnir has 8 legs like in the myths
Keep em coming my boy. I love watching these. I was sooo hooked on greek and norse mythology as a kid
Let's be honest here, if the Norse DID have the concept of Aliens, then Loki absolutely would have led an army of them.
Hell, he probably would have had at least one child with one
And at least once while using a female form because...
#lokisaystransrights
Mjolnir being made from a star kind of fits with the mythology. Being made of a neutron star, which I assume is what they mean by a “dying sun”, would certainly explain why it’s so insanely heavy and destructive.
Makes sense
no it doesn't
Most elements in the universe come from dying stars, doesn't really explain what makes Mjolnir so special.
@@Green__Ghostthe material itself does not come from a star, you just need the heat of a dying star to melt and forge it
It isn't heavy in the objective sense. Otherwise it'd break anything that MCU Thor puts the hammer on.
At least Zeus was a lot mythological accurate in the MCU.
I loved how some people said that it was too pathetic, but it’s somewhat accurate to mythology.
well, the womanizing and selfishness is spot on for sure
@@nathanial8587 Zeus is a womanizer for sure but he wasn't a coward infact marvel comic Zeus likes fighting & when gorr invaded earth to kill its gods in the comics it is likely comic Zeus fought to the death because you dont see him in gorr's prison camp
@@sauron6299 never said he was a coward but tbh I'm not surprised if he was the very opposite of one in the comics
@@nathanial8587 yeah marvel comic Zeus is quiet a badass when the celestials invaded earth he was one the the gods besides odin & vishnu to confront them
This was well made. I had fun watching it. Please do more. Many continue the Thor Trilogy.
I really love this channel.Entertaining and educational as always!
To add the fact Thor doesn't fly and the heaviness of Mjolnir, In MCU he uses the heavy weight physics of Mjolnir (spinning as fast as he can) to get him across the sky. And as you said with Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjóstr, Thor only flies in his chariot with them in the myth. It be cool to see some flying physics like that in the myth, but it's not the case for it🤷🏾♂️
Fun movie though.
In the comics Thor can fly with the hammer but he not as fast Thor mjolnir is faster then the speed of light in the comics so he uses that to go faster don't forget in the comics Thor will become stronger then Odin and in the comics Odin is the most powerful god of them all
Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjóstr are the magic goats that pull his chariot, get eaten and reborn every day etc right? Most of my knowledge of Norse myth comes from the Magnus Chase series so I think of them as the names Rick Riordan gave them (probably so he wouldn’t have to spell out Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjòstr many times a day) Otis and Marvin, sorry if this offended anyone by the way, I want to read up more on myth but I never seem to find the time
1:37; fun fact, the casket of Ancient Winters is actually associated with Malekith in the Comics. He was the villain of the second Thor movie, but they gave him the reality gem instead.
Or reality stone or the Eitha
@@reeceemms1643 , Aether. The MCU reality gem.
@@elicortez446 thanks I forgot how to spell it, it's Aether
7:48
I love how in L&T Tanngrisnr and Tannjostr pull "Aegir" a New Asgardian ship basically called "Sea".
Inaccurate as can be, but still quite hilarious. Especially with Tannjostr being a screaming goat.
I heard a theory once that Mordos vaulting boots of Valtorr (from dr Strange)were Loki's flying boots that the sorcerers of Earth somehow managed to get their hands on.
In Loki, they do make a reference of the actual story of when he cuts off Sif‘s hair. Some theorized that it was blonde, but turned black after getting cut. Kind of like Rapunzel in Tangled.
Which is totally weird because Chuck Bartowski, Captain Marvel, and Flynn Rider sound weirdly like Fandral especially in Thor: The Dark World! Wait…
6 minutes in and I'm already wondering how Marvel decided that Norse Mythology was "too boring" for them and replaced it with an, objectively, MORE boring counterpart. Oh, also, could you do the 2018 god of war and 2021's god of war ragnarok inaccuracies? From what I understand they've tried to stay fairly close to Norse Mythology, or what little we have of it.
I will gladly do those as soon as the GOW compilation video reaches 1 million views
@@TheMythologyGuy1 Excuse me, gotta go watch that a few thousand times.
You heard the man. Start making as many tabs as possible of that video.
@@TheMythologyGuy1 In my opinion, that is way too big of a stretch for a view goal and isn’t reasonable. The video is only at 217,279 views after a month and that fact it’s an hour long won’t help. This is the equivalent of a company telling their audience that they will only make a sequel to an already highly successful movie if the movie is the most successful movie in the world. I hope you're fine with how I personally feel about the view goal and aren't offended, as I find this the equivalent of locking a dog in a cage and putting a plate of steak right out of its reach.
@@PowerKnowing that bit of the "movie being highly successful" reminds me of the fact that Shusuke Kaneko once said that if Gamera 3: Revenge of Iris did get 90 million dollars in the box office (I think? it's been a while), then he will finish the Heisei Gamera Trilogy with a 4th installment
and unfortunately, while it was praised to high heaven even back in 1999, it wasn't as financially successful as the previous two films
Honestly thanks so much for this! I was not introduced to Norse mythology at all until this movie, so I really wanted to know the common/popular facts compared to what they showed here, thanks 🥳
Good one with the text on Thor beating the doctors. Sad but true.
Also sometimes wondering would anything change all that much IF Mjölnir had its full handle (apparently then being two-handed war-hammer(which do NOT historically have enormous 'hitting part') according to some), without Loki messing up its forging as a stinging fly?
You did say the Bifrost disintegrates giants so with it turning into a beam it'd be a decent weapon against them. Also the last fact was trully a shocker.
Yea the last one was a hard pill to swallow, I thought about it for hours after seeing this, it broke me as a human to accept that truth
Hi Mr MythologyGuy, love your videos! I was wondering if you'd be interested in exploring the concept of Frigg and Freyja being often times confused to be the same goddess. I notice it a lot and was curious if you had any incites into why.
I actually heard that the norse used "red" as a term for gold so Thor having "red" hair might actually translate into him being blond
If i remember correctly i think i heard it in a metatron video
Hello!
10/10 video, im so happy to see someone point out thse things since i grew up hearing the stories (pretty common to hear at least a few of Them growing up here in denmark) and reading the Valhalla comics by Peter Madsen. (10/10 comics, really good at telling the stories and portraying the characters like their mythological selves) if you ever get the chance to, you should read Them!
Maybe I will. Thank you!
@@TheMythologyGuy1 so if the bifrost only connects asgard to Midgard how do the asgardians go to the other relms without teleportation?
@@demarriuspoe282 If we go by the mythological answer, it's answered in the video that the realms are not that far apart. There are numerous tales of the Æsir simply walking or riding to another realm.
@@Iliadic I know it's in the video it's just a little confusing so if the rainbow bridge goes from asgard to Midgard that must mean the other relms are also connected to Midgard that's what I'm thinking
Strength enhancing belt, powerful size-shifting weapon, gloves that control its power, general lighting powers and one of his symbols is the stag beetle
Thor was a Kamen Rider the whole time
I'm amazed by the ancient Norse for inventing D&D exploits like resurrecting and eating the same boar every day well over a thousand years before D&D became a thing.
In the case of Frigg, she gets better fighting skills in the second movie
15:58 This sentence made me crack up so hard. I’m just imagining twin brothers just casually talking about making a magic rope with fish breath.
A pleasant surprise! Hope you reach 1 million soon! Great video!
When Thor hit that glass prison with Mjolnir and that "phunk" sound was heard, I thought you edited that sound in to make it funnier considering how "weak" they portrayed the hammer here. I had to check from the actual movie and the sound was indeed there. Lol
15:59 And don’t forget the chain made of the NOISE of a cat’s FOOTSTEPS, the BEARD of a WOMAN, MOUNTAIN’s ROOTS, the tendons of a bear (that one is just painful), FISH’s BREATH TOO, and the SPIT of a BIRD. Combining these items you create Gleipnir, the chain that was used on Fenrir.
7:30 That story is probably a reference to Loki as a kid shaving her head bald and then growing her hair black just to try and mess with Thor. That is why they made it black it's a story from the 616 comic book.
This was fun to watch!
Funny thing about Mjolnir, when Thor was first made in the comics, his hammer wasn't even called that. It was just 'the uru metal hammer' with the worthiness of Thor because the writers only did the barest research into the mythology. Same reason why he's blond instead of redhead in the comics. That's all that was really needed back then for comics, I guess!
The Warriors Three were definitely a comics original. There was a little research for the movies, at least, like how Hogun looks different because he's Vanir, not Asgardian.
Ironically because Thor in the comics now does hold alot of mythology accurate stuff ofcourse not all but he is considered one of marvel best written character
First of all, his hammer was not called ''the uru metal'' hammer in his first appearance. It was referred to as ''The legendary hammer of Thor''. The name of the fictional metal from which the Aesir weapons were forged, called Uru, was created already after the name Mjolnir was spelled in Thor's comics. Second of all, the worthiness part is taken from the Arthurian myth. Marvel's Thor was a mash between Scandinavian myths and modern epic hero stories. Third of all, the writers didn't barely do research, since Stan Lee was writing stories that are an exact retelling of the stuff from the Eddas. Like how in the early JIM comics you would see the comic end in an epilogue which tells the reader about the story of Ymir, Adumbla and Burri. Fourth of all, he's blonde because he's based on the 1872s Swedish painting of Thor where he's blond and clean-shaven. And lastly, the Warriors Three were based on the Three Musketeers and were meant to provide Thor stories a more swashbuckling vibes and also to provide comic relief with the likes of Fandral and Volstagg, as Thor himself is not a funny character. And I don't understand what you mean by ''Hogun looks different''? To what? You mean that the actor is Asian? But we already established that the MCU Asgard is racially diverse. And your idea of research is that Hogun is from Vaneheim? Which is stupid, because he's from Nornheim in the comics, and instead Sif and her brother Heimdall (who's pale white in the comics and carries Gjalahorn) are Vanir. And Aesir-Vanir war has been a thing in Marvel Comics since... I dunno, long time.
Dude, you suck at this.
@@EmperorDxD not ironically at all. Marvel Comics, unlike Waititi's garbage movies, actually have had stuff pulled from the Eddas to the point where there is nothing left for them to include anymore. Every item mentioned in the Eddas is in Marvel Comics and has been there for a while. Like just off the top of my head I remember Thor dropping Odin's famous ring into the fire during Dan Jurgen's run, which was twenty years ago.
@@antona.8659 Dude, be more polite about it.
TIL about the Arthurian mix in, but Jack Kirby was co-creator along with Stan Lee, and he did all the art, so visual inconsistencies can be blamed on him, I guess.
Every early panel I have seen of Thor comics just called it 'Thor's hammer' and 'the hammer of uru metal' or similar. The hammer first appeared in 1962 and wasn't named Mjolnir in comics until 1966.
Thor: The Dark World specifically called out Hogun as being Vanir in the MCU.
@@ParasaurolophusZ 1. What ''visual inconsistencies''? I'm talking about where the part about Mjolnir's worthy enchantment came from. ? 2. You mean Wikipedia's article about the said fictional item? Because you clearly didn't read any of the early Thor comics. It wasn't named by its English transcription in the first few issues because the editorial knew the American readers wouldn't be able to remember such a tough name. It had nothing to do with the authors of Thor comics not doing their research. They clearly did, because other fancy norse names, like Bifrost, Heimdall, etc, appear as early as the first five issues of JIM. 3. First, he wasn't ''called out''. We see that terribly shot battle scene, a title cared reading ''Vaneheim'', and then we hear Thor tell Hogun to stay with his people, implying that was his home. But that wasn't my point. My point was, you were congratulating the MCU on ''doing research'' by saying an Asian character is from a different realm? It's not research if Asgard is already racially diverse and if there are no Asian people in the Eddas. So nice job, loser.
this was hilarious! Personally I always read that Demi God comment as Tony taking just a little a dig at Thor, given Iron Mans an athiest and that is something he'd more than likely pull
Maybe? We don't know for sure Lord Stark isn't.
Makes him sound more like a theist
A fun companion to this series would be videos on mythology accuracies, so we can see what facts our favorite properties actually got right, if any
Thor having a chariot pulled by goats instead of riding a horse is more cool and in theme
Shame they made them scream tho
And much tastier
Would you be willing to talk about the stories (or mentions) of the real events and characters mentioned in this video? Like Frigg's attendants? I think it would be cool to cover the forgotten and lesser known figures in mythologies.
Norse mythology is actually so cool and very interesting. I think the fact that we know so little about it makes it so much more interesting. Vikings weren't exactly the type of people who write a lot. So there are probably a lot more about norse myth that we don't know and likely will never know. Unlike Christianity which had books and other writtings for us to understand.
But of course Greek Myths are better
@@TheBlueKing10t Well...Victorian intellectuals thought so too to the point Classical is synonymous with Ancient Greek. In other timelines, maybe it's Celtic, Early English, Latin, Norse, or Slavic mythology that got labeled Classical with Greek being just popular in Greece.
This series is the best. We need more.
I like this.
Another!
Like what? Every mythical inaccuracy in The Mummy?
the real Thor is ginger, beefy and hot-headed
What source has Thor as redhead? Thor fights the Giants is an 1872 painting that shows him as a blondie.
7:41 the two goats that pulled Thors chariot are referenced in thor love and thunder as a gift from a town he saved
“Hey Heimdall where’s your horn?”
“Don’t tell Odin but I might’ve have lost it.”
“What?!”
“I said might’ve.”
3:25 So even in those days, Thor used a lifting belt and gloves? Man, lifters really gotta step their game up to catch up with Thor.
About the Heimdal thing, if Jon Solo is correct, the color white in the Norse Language is kinda like describing someone who is very beautiful or handsome. Kinda like how Blue is used to describe someone who is dead. So technically Heimdal could be any race as long as he looks very handsome or beautiful.
Well, that would fit Idris Elba.
Handsome Samurai Heimdall with a 9 feet long nodachi and a massive hachimaki covering the top half of his face to protect him from overloading his senses. This if physical attractiveness is the only requirement. Then again, you assume that what you and me call "handsome " is actually handsome by old Norse standards.
I wouldn't expect a blonde and blue-eyed person to be in a west or central African mythology either...
Now I'll just wait for the historical revisionists to come in and do their thing
Heimdall was envisioned in the mythology by people of norse descent, a.k.a. white. So, you're wrong.
So essentially, if an African mythology only describes their gods as being handsome, then they can be any race. Got it.
oh i would love to see inaccuracy videos for each of the thor movies. this was fantastic
A fan fic, that totally rewrote the the ending of The Avengers, I read kinda talked about the difference between the MCU and the Mythology.
You walk in on Thor talking to Loki in The Avengers tower. Thor is reading about the norse myths and complaining how wrong they were.
Loki tells him he shouldn't have tried to tell the Midgardians about Asgard while being so drunk.
Hard to believe; How would Thor even get drunk? He can eat a whole box of pop tarts and still be hungry!
22:04 Loki turning down a drink is = to Zeus not wanting more s£x
Zeus! Don't put your dick in it!
No it's = to Zeus being a virgin
Wait.
Odin is a Half-Giant?
That means
Thor's 3/4 giant.
So he's a Quarter God/Asgardian
It should noted not all the gaints or jotun were massive. The gaints in norse myth are more like a different group of deity’s that are not a part of the aesir. Just beacuse gods like Thor, Odin and Loki are part gaint dosen’t mean they are not gods. That kind of thinking is more off a greek myth thing.
@@timmyrimmy Yeah, that was in Norse GOW, wasn't sure how accurate but didn't assume everyone towered.
Still, Thor would only be 1/4 Asgardian by blood, making his massacre that much more disturbing.
Thor's mother is also a giant.
@@zagard777 Yes, that's where the other 2/4 came from.
Math.
How well do you remember it.
@@samurexatlas7373 But that's not how genetics work. It's not a set math of 1/2 + 1 = 3/4. It's more varied than that because DNA is a little more random. Really he would be anywhere from 50% Jotunn to 75%. Without a DNA test you can't accurately say.
Great content as usual. I'm binge watching all MCU films and this is really a great help. I love Thor movies, but I just can't resonate to him personally. He's still a good dude though, and I admire him for his bravery and determination to save humanity.
I think pointing them out as differences not "innacuracies" would be better. I don't think an adaptation of an adaptation was never going for accuracy
So?
Oh, he knows. Inaccuracy is a force of habit.
when you mentioned Loki never killed anyone and only played pranks, except for Baldr as he wanted to kill him just made me laugh XD
Great video! I started learning about the mythos precisely because of this movie. Needless to say that I was surprised at the numerous differences lol I still really like the movie and the whole myth+sci-fi concept that it works with. A very removed adaptation, but an enjoyable adaptation nonetheless (in my opinion). Still my favourite Thor movie (I don't like Ragnarok... sorry).
Have you read any Thor comics? Sure, those aren't accurate either, but way more than the movies. Lots of nods throughout them.
15:06 Don't forget Thrud, Thors basically never talked about daughter, even in the myths she barely appears tho
Maybe she just embarrases him.
Doesn’t really have any bearing on this video but I think the implication was that Thor left Megingjörd on Earth with The Avengers, not that Iron Man made it. Happy describes it as a “magic belt” and he’s one of the closest friends of the third most tech-savvy people on Earth so I assume he meant it literally.
You know you may be right about that. The fact that they don't bring it up until a different characters movie is still a bit lame.
“Third most tech savvy”
Tony literally figured out time travel in one evening who the hell is more tech savey than him??
@@skibot9974
That’s not technology, that’s quantum physics. It was already confirmed that T’Challa and Shuri are both smarter than him and more tech savvy than he is as Wakanda is the most technologically advanced nation on Earth…
@@MyNegroAcademia Wakanda has access to a magic metal that does whatever they want it to, Tony doesn't.
@@MyNegroAcademia fair enough
8:17 I was waiting for he’s not black in Norse mythology 🤣
I died laughing bc it's fkn hilarious
13:04 it's also notable that bodybuilders actually HAVE to eat alot to maintain their physiques. Chris Hemsworth himself had to eat tons of calories for the role. So eating lots of food does not mean you must be fat.
12:32 I'm pretty sure that would be AT LEAST entire continent, possibly more, absolutely obliterated.
Like the k-T extinction
Here's some you missed:
-In both Marvel Comics and the movies, Loki is depicted as being a powerful sorcerer and illusionist. In the myths, he is neither. A shape-shifter, sure, and a cunning trickster but he's never depicted as using magic. The being in the original myths most associated with illusion-casting is the jotunn known as Utgard-Loki, who actually manages to fool both Thor and our Loki with his illusions.
-The "Odin-sleep" is not a thing in the myths. In the comics, Odin has access to a mystical energy source called "the Odin-Force" and thus needs to occasionally need to rest in order to keep up his strength. But he has no limitation in the myths.
-MCU's Mjolnir is depicted as being very strong, capable of summoning thunder and lightning, allowing its wielder to fly (or at the very least propel them a great distance), provide clothing/armor, can somewhat move around on its own and can be remotely summoned at any time. In the myths, Mjolnir has three primary abilities: it can strike as hard as its user desires, can be recalled after being thrown and can be shrunk and worn as a pendant. If it could be recalled at a distance, then its theft by Thrym in the myths wouldn't have been a big deal. Thor also once uses Mjolnir to resurrect his two goats after killing and eating them, a feat only described the one time. Additionally, it's a bit unclear whether or not Thor in the myths has the innate power to control lightning/thunder, if it's a perk of the hammer or it is just meant to be metaphorical, to demonstrate that Mjolnir is so powerful that its strikes are seen as lightning and heard as thunder.
-The first movie DOES depict certain aspects of Thor's personality correctly, like the fact that he's proud, hot-tempered, impetuous, battle-hungry and violent, as well as being a champion drinker.
-Sleipnir, Odin's eight-legged horse, is briefly seen in the first film but is apparently just a weird-looking horse and not the offspring of Loki...or the stallion Svadilfari (it's a long story).
-Thor tells Volstagg about "dying and going to Valhalla." They SHOULD already be in Valhalla, since it's the great-hall of Odin and located in Asgard but the film (and later entries) treats it like a separate plane of existence.
-There's a comedic scene where Thor walks into a pet store to find a mount. The first film establishes that Thor has been to Earth before in the past so he should know that Humans don't have birds, cats or dogs "large enough to ride."
-Gungnir, Odin's spear, is depicted as firing magical energy blasts, an ability that it shouldn't have. In the myths, it has two properties: is so perfectly balanced that it will never miss its target when thrown and (as mentioned in the video) any oath sworn on it is unbreakable. That's it.
Isen’t shapshifting magic?
@@timmyrimmy Eh, kind of? As the Jotnar are depicted as shape-shifters, it seems to be a natural ability normal to their race rather than just a magical ability. I meant that Loki, in the context of the myths, is never seen using any magical powers or spells other than changing his appearance, either to become an animal or a different gender or both.
#Lokisaystransrights
@@jeffreygao3956No arguments here
I love the simple, effective editing.
Thank you I tired my best to make it as quickly as possible while also making it entertaining to watch.
Honestly although I love the classic myth I also just love the idea that in marvel those myths were based on a ancient race of highly advanced aliens who over time began to believe they were gods. It explains the differences between the myth and marvel as humans began to just get things wrong such as how in the marvel universe Beowulf was Thor in a different outfit.
In the comics they are the actual gods though
@@Galvatronover no they aren’t. They are aliens who we based the myths on and then they over time started to believe the myths themselves
If I'm not mistaken, somewhere in the movie, there's dialogue that implies that the MCU versions of Thor and the nine realms are the 'real' versions, and 'classic' Norse mythology is the exaggerated and inaccurate human recollections inspired by Asgardian visits to Earth. Which is a clever way of shielding themselves from videos like this.
Another thing about the Bifrost is that Thor can’t actually walk on it. It is said that if he were to try to cross it, it would melt due to his heat, seeing as his element is fire.
where did you get that?
@@Auricalios out of their ass since thor is only a God of thunder, the sky, and agriculture, dudes got nothing to do with fire
And just in case someone asks, there is a God of fire, (although it's a jotunn)named halogi
22:25 tony probably knows Thor is a god he just likes to be annoying
Dude, I love this channel so much. I feel like I'm hanging out with a mate listening to him complaining about random stuff, and I'm nodding the whole time.
Thank you and please continue your awesome uploads.
I’m surprised you could cram it all into 24 minutes. It feels like all they got right was that Thor has a hammer and they even messed that up. Nice job on the video!
They also got the fact that he’s Orin’s son right.
21:50 that glass can definitely with stand the hit because that glass was said to be made tho withstand a hulk hit in comics hulks max punch strength at this point is 40k tons you said that Mjölnir shatters mountains if we take the density of one of the Appalachian mountains that would take around 20k tons so yes that glass can with stand that blow
6:05 So glad you mentioned that.
3:54 this doesn't mean tony made the belt just that tony had the belt.
11:56 Ok, I did not expect a UA-cam copyright bit here, but my god it was hilarious.
Would quickly become dated if I was ruling UA-cam.
12:27 maybe there was a mountain in that place but mijoner destroyed it
For the belt, the clip shows that Tony had the belt in his tower not specifically that he made it and is even called magic it makes it less likely to be made by Tony. That means that it probably wasn't an inaccuracy.
i didnt think of that
Really well done as usual, i have a suggestion, maybe a video like this for the lego show "The monkie kid" i bet you'd have your fun doing that too
22:20 I don't think that was an inaccuracy, I think that was just tony trying to be an ass like usual
I love how the Asgards have horses simply to ride across the bridge to the Bifrost. Is that considered part of the Bifrost? I know that bridge gets broken, therefore breaking the entire Bifrost, so im guessing it is.
They do say in the films that the bridge is the Bifrost, Hell in avengers Thor needs the Teseract so they can repair the bridge
The bridge is the bifrost to explain it the machine uses the bifrost to help them travel faster to realms
@@EmperorDxD I know what the Bifrost does. Just couldn't remember if the bridge was part of it
6:00
"Laufey is not king of the Jotuns or anything for that matter, Laufey is a WOMAN."
- The Mythology Guy 2023
Well...Loki is identified as Laufeyson in the myths BUT the more accurate spelling would be Laufeyjarrson or something meaning "Mother Laufey's son" or "son of the woman Laufey." So either he's a Mama's boy or Norse couldn't pass up alliteration.
"He never tried to kill any of them"
Baldur"...so we just gonna forget me"
I've always loved the fact that Mythology Thor was ginger.
Thank you myth guy for doing this 🔥
At 7:00, Hogun is actually not an Asgardian. In the comics, though. Those are actually way more accurate to Norse mythology than the movies. There's a decent amount of eyes being pulled out to gain wisdom, Baldr dying to kick off Ragnarök and Thor taking three steps and falling. Oh, and Thor's brothers are actually around (if they aren't dead).
In the MCU he's from Vaneheim. In the comics he's from Nornheim.
*12:40* I'll say kill the dinosaurs like it did when it was forged
I know this is gonna shock you but Thor didn't fought godzilla in Norse mythology
That last one affected me deeply, I'm fine with the others, but that last one... Man, you completely crushed me.
18:00 Turn captions on. Loki: Welcome to Alaska 😂
Alaska sounds like a great place to go for a frost giant NGL.
Loki launches the Russian invasion? He's mad! Nobody can successfully invade the United States!