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  • @Ramoa111
    @Ramoa111 10 років тому +168

    chuck knew exactly what was going on at the time. Then he acts like he didnt invent the thing. Very humble person. Miss u man!!

    • @jeffk3929
      @jeffk3929 7 років тому +1

      Fernando Ramoa Well said...Chuck was very humble and just a regular guy. Such a talented musician...a master. So sad he is gone.

  • @UPtheIRONS52
    @UPtheIRONS52 8 років тому +51

    Funny how sometimes the kindest people can sound the most terrifying

  • @andrewwilson803
    @andrewwilson803 7 років тому +18

    All these people walking by.... Not realizing they are passing a legend who's life ended way too soon.

  • @marmac7467
    @marmac7467 8 років тому +68

    Chuck was such a modest, nice guy.

    • @DEthe5150
      @DEthe5150 7 років тому +5

      He was THE PHILOSOPHER, whose VOICE OF THE SOUL will forever encompass the COSMIC SEA.
      Happy 50th Birthday, Chuck! Cheers!

  • @leprechaun4213
    @leprechaun4213 10 років тому +134

    Chuck just wanted to be a "Metalhead" no extra bullshit. He just named his major influences .Metallica KD Venom, koo but without Chuck Shuldiner.. There is no Cannibal,Deicide,Sepultura Suffocation,Meshuggah,Pantera etc. Little did he know how important he was to us RIP

    • @therebelbrain
      @therebelbrain 10 років тому +1

      100% true and could not have said it better

    • @MackanThrashingMad
      @MackanThrashingMad 10 років тому +15

      Sepultura made two amazing death metal-records before Scream Bloody Gore or the Mutilation-demo was even out.

    • @rylansparkyschneider
      @rylansparkyschneider 10 років тому +16

      I agree with a lot of this comment, but Pantera would more than likely be what it was without Death.

    • @TheReincarnatedDeath
      @TheReincarnatedDeath  9 років тому +10

      +Emil Niphelsson : Remember, for chronologging musical evolution, in this case death metal, you should start counting at the earliest demo's, meaning Mantas - Death by metal from 1983. Chuck was heavily spreading his tapes around the world, also corresponding with Max Cavalera.

    • @zdzdzdzdzdzdz
      @zdzdzdzdzdzdz 7 років тому

      Actually if I understand Chuck correctly, he would clasify bands like Cannibal Corpse as parody of the genre and the direction musicans composing Death metal lyrics should abandon.
      But don't get me wrong, I often find CC silly and over-grotesque, but i still like them. Fuck with a knife is a classic on Its own :D.
      bands like that are cool, but I can't take them too serious :p

  • @CitizenCarrier
    @CitizenCarrier 10 років тому +58

    It's fucking awesome hearing a legend, a pioneer and a talent like Chuck Schuldiner give props to Anvil in the same sentence with Metallica, Mercyful Fate etc. People often discount Anvil and their earlier, heavier stuff too quickly. Rest in peace Chuck. Cancer sucks!

  • @Somber.Killer
    @Somber.Killer 10 років тому +134

    Chuck I just want to thank you for all your awesome music. You are a huge reason why I picked up the guitar. You are a legend forever. RIP.

    • @wafflcoptr
      @wafflcoptr 9 років тому +4

      He'll never see this.

    • @mr.imarealsuperhero4201
      @mr.imarealsuperhero4201 9 років тому +4

      wafflcoptr He doesn't need to as long as we keep his legacy alive Chuck will live on forever.. \m/

    • @wafflcoptr
      @wafflcoptr 9 років тому +1

      +Dread nought I know I just like to fuck with people.

    • @fynnrajh7931
      @fynnrajh7931 7 років тому +1

      amen brother. chuck my reason and also inspiration for learning guitar. Taken from us to soon but never forgotten. Respect and thanks forever.

  • @daimonf777
    @daimonf777 10 років тому +14

    "I see reality". Chuck, you will live forever through your lyrics, your words and your wisdom. We all can learn from you, regardless the types of music we like. Chuck, You will live forever. Rest in Peace.

  • @slantyrock
    @slantyrock 9 років тому +49

    Guy at 0:24 in the background was prob like "Is that Chuck?"

  • @Fidelio116
    @Fidelio116 10 років тому +97

    Chuck is incorrect. He is the inventor of death metal. But, I admire him being humble about it.

    • @JeffDbury
      @JeffDbury 7 років тому +3

      I totally agree with that statement . you are on point all the way

  • @DEthe5150
    @DEthe5150 7 років тому +8

    Today (5/13/2017) would have been his 50th Birthday.
    Still sad that he's gone, but glad that he made outstanding music that will live on.
    Happy Birthday, Chuck! Cheers!

  • @Brandon-bl8ko
    @Brandon-bl8ko 7 років тому +8

    Dude will not accept praise without giving a shit ton of it first. one of the great ones for sure. not just as a musician but as a human being

  • @GK-tz4my
    @GK-tz4my 8 років тому +29

    goodnight sweet prince

  • @d.r.hardin2297
    @d.r.hardin2297 10 років тому +6

    At that time no one truly knew how important and inspirational he would become over the next several years. He is honest and humble and probably didn't see himself as becoming an icon. However he left his mark for musicians of this genre and beyond, and words cannot express his legacy.

  • @jucastro2026
    @jucastro2026 9 років тому +7

    Great mind, a man who really made a difference in what concerns to lyrics in death metal!

    • @vincent-rj9by
      @vincent-rj9by 9 років тому

      +Juliana de Castro Ye, fucking love their lyrics

    • @DEthe5150
      @DEthe5150 7 років тому

      Chuck Schuldiner - THE PHILOSOPHER whose VOICE OF THE SOUL will forever encompass the COSMIC SEA.
      Happy 50th Birthday, Chuck! Cheers!

  • @muhtasimalviryem7117
    @muhtasimalviryem7117 7 років тому +8

    apart from all his humble acts,the way he narrated his belief towards demons,then no hatred or conflict towards any religion..
    I sometimes wonder what was he a man or an angel,a huge blessing to the world history

  • @victorrabelo6241
    @victorrabelo6241 9 років тому +51

    R.I.P Chuck!! The Metal needs more guys like you \,,/
    "That's idiotioc... that's putting a limit in people's mentality"
    Death = best lyrics!!

    • @donjohn2239
      @donjohn2239 9 років тому +1

      best comment ever!lol

    • @ribbone1975
      @ribbone1975 8 років тому +3

      truth in his quote. the catholics and organized religion is all about limiting peoples minds to have domination over the masses for their evil gain

    • @mishellvite2708
      @mishellvite2708 7 років тому

      robert henderson I'm catholic and I LOVE death, but hell your comment has some truth.... I have had people from church call me satanic and stuff ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @MarekPudzian-x6f
      @MarekPudzian-x6f 3 місяці тому

      ​@@mishellvite2708dont be catholic those are not words of god.

  • @jjustice39
    @jjustice39 9 років тому +7

    A true legend of metal...Let the Metal Flow!

  • @yzzx4f
    @yzzx4f 7 місяців тому +2

    Chuck wouldve been 57 today, i can't believe he's really gone, miss u!

  • @rupertvonplaten4742
    @rupertvonplaten4742 9 років тому +11

    damn it chuck so god damn humble

  • @imperialthrasher8034
    @imperialthrasher8034 10 років тому +11

    Chuck was a badass dude R.I.P

  • @enricomorelli8756
    @enricomorelli8756 7 років тому +2

    the kid at 0:07 is like:"whoa, that's Chuck Schuldiner"

  • @dannie2712
    @dannie2712 7 років тому +13

    Somewhere up there jamming together is chuck, dimebag, cliff burton and nick menza

  • @ArchAngelManga
    @ArchAngelManga 9 років тому +1

    I've only been listening to Death for a few months but this man has already had such a big impact on me and my tastes in music! ROCK IN PEACE!

  • @jfpbman
    @jfpbman 10 років тому +11

    in my opinion, "pleassure to kill" from kreator was HUGE influence to death metal. just listen to it, it´s so brutal!!

    • @HeyHax
      @HeyHax 9 років тому

      jfpbman I love the part where the demon says it! \m/

  • @kiarashbakhtiari4623
    @kiarashbakhtiari4623 9 років тому +76

    00:35 Metallica "when they first came out" even chuck knew Metallica started to suck after And justice for all

    • @prettyjohnshill76
      @prettyjohnshill76 9 років тому +1

      +kiarash bakhtiari after '...and justice for all'? put a decent production on ' and justice for all' and you've basically got the 'black' album. there's only 2, maybe 3, thrash songs on the album.

    • @rossreid9092
      @rossreid9092 9 років тому +14

      +prettyjohnshill76 I think Justice was the last good album

    • @omginvalid
      @omginvalid 8 років тому +25

      +prettyjohnshill76 Justice is fucking amazing you sit the fuck down

    • @prettyjohnshill76
      @prettyjohnshill76 8 років тому

      omginvalid anything you say gamer nerd. i'll bet you weren't even born when '..and justice for all' came out.

    • @omginvalid
      @omginvalid 8 років тому +7

      prettyjohnshill76
      gamer nerd? and what does age matter? You think the heaviest album is shit you can fuck off lol

  • @sickistartform1
    @sickistartform1 8 років тому +1

    I had this Vid !!! Chuck is the one person I greatly miss and never met.
    Blesses to him.

  • @Stonedead1991
    @Stonedead1991 12 років тому

    Thanks for posting this. Interesting stuff and it's always great to watch Chuck's interviews.

  • @AntonioGazzaneo91
    @AntonioGazzaneo91 10 років тому +4

    i can't describe with words the amount of respect i feel for this man, he was a true man and artist

  • @jarrentaylor4757
    @jarrentaylor4757 7 років тому +1

    I have to hold back tears when I listen to Death, or when I watch these interviews. Chuck Schuldiner is one of my greatest heroes.

  • @JasonDemakis
    @JasonDemakis 9 років тому +2

    "I see reality." - Chuck Schuldiner
    "Through dreams, I obtain the ability to connect sight with sound..."

  • @dreamerdestiny5924
    @dreamerdestiny5924 8 років тому +2

    Your outlook and the things you're saying I can completely relate to. Sometimes it sets a theme when you use certain words, which create a world that you are trying to conjure within the listeners mind. But I agree, it's much better to also write about reality. We are a world with real problems, and speaking out about them is what helps along the change. Create music that will unlock potential and not stifle it, as is the case with many lyrical styles. Thank you for all the beautiful music

  • @erisiticaalusta5166
    @erisiticaalusta5166 7 років тому +2

    Watching him makes me tear up! He's so honest and good minded.... Doesn't give self importance, I love him so much.... One day death will take me to him.... Chuck the godfather of death metal

  • @savatagedude
    @savatagedude 12 років тому

    I love hearing Chuck talk about anything! Such a down to earth person he was and very sincere individual. Let the Metal Flow!

  • @samrennard5665
    @samrennard5665 8 років тому +1

    Chuck was such a good person. And he actually puts meaning into lyrics

  • @nitrokyosho
    @nitrokyosho 22 дні тому +1

    LEGEND AWESOME GUITAR PLAYER AND SINGER

  • @davidsnakedoe7322
    @davidsnakedoe7322 9 років тому +1

    all those people passing by a living legend without realising it.
    I feel lucky for having lived on the same planet, in the same era of Chuck Schuldiner.

  • @estephhmtz6703
    @estephhmtz6703 10 років тому +4

    he said Satan and the dude just turns and looks at him like wtf ? 2:56

  • @schowers
    @schowers 8 років тому +5

    "Godfather of death metal" Nevermind that Possessed came first and Chuck gave them credit.

    • @TheReincarnatedDeath
      @TheReincarnatedDeath  8 років тому +5

      Both Chuck (with Mantas) and Possessed started in 1983 and both were recording demo's in 1984. Possessed made up the name, but played thrash death, not pure death metal (check the description link where they state this). Chuck def took inspiration from them also, but did much more in forging solid death metal. He also continuously 'raised' the music to new territory. He 'parted' with lacking bandmembers and spreaded the message of metal to be a united brothers thing almost like family rethoric. I see resemblance to The Godfather movies.

    • @schowers
      @schowers 8 років тому

      +TheReincarnatedDeath Possessed is really thrashy, first wave death metal, (naturally, since dm evolved from thrash) and they werent the only ones doing it. I believe it was actually Seven Churches that inspired Chuck to form Death. Ik there's an interview somewhere where he gives them credit.
      Poison from Germany were also recording songs as early as 82/83. Check out "Into the Abyss" the uploader says it came out in 86 but it's a compilation of material they recorded in the time frame I mentioned before.

    • @TheReincarnatedDeath
      @TheReincarnatedDeath  8 років тому +1

      Chuck changed Mantas to Death in 1984. Seven Churches came out in 1985 so it's not that album. I think you should look at the demo's, spreaded through tapetrading rather than who got a record deal first. There is a Mantas logo with the Possessed tail in it. The Death by metal title sounds like a variation on the Death metal demo. And of course the first word in death metal is the archetypical word Death. As youngsters they decided naming stuff quite impulsively. Like Chris Reifert after leaving Death literally thought: What comes after death? Autopsy! Thus another bandname was born.
      But apart from naming stuff, musically Chuck was much more moved away from thrash to pure death metal than Possessed. Remember that he was also influenced by playing with Slaughter, Genocide/Repulsion & Massacre guys plus Reifert.
      I don't know if the German Poison had any developing influence back then in the tapetrading community. Haven't seen any signals of that. I think they were mostly copying Hellhammer back than.

    • @schowers
      @schowers 8 років тому +1

      TheReincarnatedDeath Then it was the demos and not Seven Churches, I wasnt sure. But he was definitely inspired by them. It may be thrashy but SBG is a second rate Seven Churches. Sepultura was also doing stuff around that time.
      My point is, is that Death wasnt the first and trying to find the first dm band is like trying to find the first human

    • @schowers
      @schowers 8 років тому +1

      IMO Seven Churches is definitely a dm album

  • @W00dland_90
    @W00dland_90 10 років тому +1

    kind of interesting to see all these late 80's/early 90's people walking around

  • @uglynovagames561
    @uglynovagames561 9 років тому +9

    Rip Chuck and Lemmy

  • @KROKODIL_GENA-s5l
    @KROKODIL_GENA-s5l 8 років тому +1

    обожаю твою музыку,Чак. люблю ее. всем сердцем. Чак всегда с нами и в наших сердцах. светлая память тебе.спасибо за твою музыку.

  • @dannie2712
    @dannie2712 7 років тому +2

    Why is it always the greatest musicians who die young

  • @919284
    @919284 7 років тому +1

    It's so funny that he talks nothing like he sounds when singing those scary death vocals.

  • @impactisimminent8509
    @impactisimminent8509 7 років тому +1

    Chuck will live forever. So Greatly missed. Nobody like him.

  • @Chuloloc
    @Chuloloc 11 років тому

    Awesome. Great classic footage. Important gem. RIP, Chuck Schuldiner. The guitar genius. Definitely a true pioneer.

  • @palopo-t3v
    @palopo-t3v 9 років тому +1

    What a nice guy. We miss you Chuck.

  • @guynamedkyle
    @guynamedkyle 8 років тому +2

    Rest in peace, Chuck.

  • @diogenessinope6405
    @diogenessinope6405 7 років тому +1

    You don't know life until you know death... Rip Chuck Shuldnier

  • @johnconti1329
    @johnconti1329 8 років тому +2

    R.I.P. Chuck, a true genius.

  • @KostasGiotis
    @KostasGiotis 7 років тому +1

    All these people passing by, not realizing they're walking next to a God.

  • @RUBBERNUGG3T
    @RUBBERNUGG3T 8 років тому +2

    rest in rip sweet prince 😢

  • @timberwolvesxx7250
    @timberwolvesxx7250 10 років тому +3

    Legend and great person. never forgotten.

    • @TheReincarnatedDeath
      @TheReincarnatedDeath  10 років тому +2

      *****
      Please post your source founding this statement.

    • @timberwolvesxx7250
      @timberwolvesxx7250 10 років тому +4

      i don't care if he is half-black, half-japanese! whats your point? racist idiot.

    • @TheReincarnatedDeath
      @TheReincarnatedDeath  9 років тому

      TimberWolvesX X Schuldiner is German for 'School diner'. His music is scholing material and he was also a cook: www.emptywords.org/MetalCrusadevol1no3.htm (DEATH in the kitchen) ;)

  • @Pizza4Lunch
    @Pizza4Lunch 8 років тому +1

    Happy birthday Chuck!!!

  • @Sauron8189
    @Sauron8189 9 років тому +2

    I heard these guys years ago and I thought they were cool but only recently have I properly got into them and man one of the most talented fucking bands I've ever heard it really is a shame chuck was taken away so soon. RIP Chuck.

    • @Sauron8189
      @Sauron8189 9 років тому +1

      Tbh with you mate and speaking as a guitarist myself I think a lot of Deaths stuff is quite technical and way ahead of its time and the fact chuck could roar and play the way he did simultaneously is nothing short of impressive! Voice of the Soul is a killer emotional ride and again his compositional skills in that are technical to a high standard! I can honestly say I have never heard a band like Death in my life!

  • @VM0451
    @VM0451 12 років тому

    The godfather of death metal sounds so relaxed that he seems to be stoned.
    Now that, is breaking stereotypes.

  • @rickrozz2439
    @rickrozz2439 9 років тому +1

    (R.I.P.) "Chuck Schuldiner"

  • @hl9h
    @hl9h 7 років тому +2

    RIP chuck .

  • @MetalSalvation
    @MetalSalvation 6 років тому +1

    Personally I like fantasy more than reality lyrics, but Death still used imagery and sounds that provoked feelings of escapism, they never lost that.

  • @adopodrinje1499
    @adopodrinje1499 9 років тому +6

    which country is this? where was this shot ?

  • @satanicpanic1313
    @satanicpanic1313 9 років тому +2

    definately the Pac of DM. what a great guy. always happy to share his individual thought patterns!

    • @donjohn2239
      @donjohn2239 9 років тому +1

      ah. fuck off PAC of death metal? you comparing a guy who makes music to a gut who rhythmically talk on a music tune ? not disrespecting your taste( which I completely think is bad) but cmon.

    • @donjohn2239
      @donjohn2239 9 років тому

      +Don john guy*

    • @donjohn2239
      @donjohn2239 9 років тому

      +Don john talks*

    • @satanicpanic1313
      @satanicpanic1313 9 років тому +1

      Don john nothing to do with the music. I mean as a person. I am a dm fan . Cant stand rap to be honest with you.

    • @louisexodus6162
      @louisexodus6162 9 років тому +2

      Pac is the Chuck of Rap, get it straight

  • @samueljackspencer4946
    @samueljackspencer4946 10 років тому +4

    Knowledge

  • @madddeath1727
    @madddeath1727 8 років тому +1

    His lyrics are the legendary

  • @heavyrightfoot7947
    @heavyrightfoot7947 3 місяці тому +1

    Remember when Death went touring without him during Spiritual Healing. Thats was odd. They did it because Chuck was too much a gentleman.

  • @himhim8608
    @himhim8608 8 років тому +2

    How can someone with a calm voice sound si satanic on stage is beyond me but hell, if its good music i dig it. RIP Chuck, may your memory remain.

  • @guskill4500
    @guskill4500 12 років тому

    this guy was the most amazing metal songwriter and guitar extreme player, Is a legend!

  • @FatPeaceman
    @FatPeaceman 9 років тому +1

    very humble this guy

  • @jessedover6175
    @jessedover6175 6 років тому +1

    DEATH had one of the best bass players in the history of mankind,
    STEVE DEGEORGIO. The master of the fretless bass. 🤘

  • @martina9181
    @martina9181 Місяць тому +1

    Who did he named after Metallica? 0:34

  • @nacho4336
    @nacho4336 7 років тому +1

    We miss U Chuck

  • @therealblackmonolith
    @therealblackmonolith 7 років тому

    Death metal doc. brought me here!

  • @Am0r_y_PeZ
    @Am0r_y_PeZ 7 років тому +1

    Puro metal puro talento y pura humildad.

  • @TheReincarnatedDeath
    @TheReincarnatedDeath  12 років тому

    I'd say it most of the time depends on the musical death metal style. If it's more simplistic brutal death metal, so are the lyrics: brutal. Back in the day when horror films became available on video, lyrics were mostly horror stories or Venom-esque Satanic. I also see a lot of history-inspired brutal lyrics.
    If it's technical death metal, the lyrics tend to become more sophisticated, complimenting the music. In both styles, there is a world of bands to discover, also inspired by Death.

  • @eduardo0796
    @eduardo0796 8 років тому +1

    RIP, buddy.

  • @benher2282
    @benher2282 10 років тому +1

    This is the Godfather of metal. He invented it. Don't care what he says. Listen to scream bloody gore, Leprosy, and Spiritual healing. Classic heaviness.

    • @CraziNarutoMan
      @CraziNarutoMan 10 років тому +7

      Godfather of death metal? Yes. Godfather of metal? No. There were metal bands before Death.

    • @jobromo123
      @jobromo123 10 років тому

      There were tons of bands before death. There were death metal albums and demos before it too.

    • @TheReincarnatedDeath
      @TheReincarnatedDeath  9 років тому

      +CraziDude1 It's a typo. He meant death metal.

    • @TheReincarnatedDeath
      @TheReincarnatedDeath  9 років тому +1

      +Beyonce Knowles Again, you should count chronologically through the demo's. Back then, getting a record deal was not so easy as it became later, so the first band getting a deal and an album out, doesn't count as being the first to start this musical style.

    • @jobromo123
      @jobromo123 9 років тому

      TheReincarnatedDeath I honestly don't care any more. I didn't even know this comment chain existed.

  • @judasiscariot383
    @judasiscariot383 10 років тому +2

    This was definitely in England!

    • @Mranzi76
      @Mranzi76 7 років тому

      It was at Bradford ?

  • @PropagandrejMinister
    @PropagandrejMinister 12 років тому

    brilliant upload!!!!!!!!

  • @MouldyDommo
    @MouldyDommo 8 років тому +1

    song at 0:57 ?

  • @ribbone1975
    @ribbone1975 8 років тому +2

    the randy rhoads of death metal

  • @666ssn666
    @666ssn666 7 років тому +1

    There's a certain irony in what he is saying regarding reality and limiting people's mentalities. Wouldn't expect Chuck fan boys to see that though.

  • @chasebroughton7373
    @chasebroughton7373 10 років тому

    What song is death playing at 0:50?

  • @TheGroumpfy
    @TheGroumpfy 12 років тому

    Chuck is such a humble man.

  • @ihearthem143
    @ihearthem143 8 років тому +2

    Song in the video?

    • @flyingwhal3s
      @flyingwhal3s 8 років тому +2

      Lack of Comprehension from Human

  • @ryanduray1
    @ryanduray1 7 років тому +1

    Schuldiner, Burton, and Menza would be a great 3 piece band of dead guys.

  • @ovd806
    @ovd806 12 років тому

    Nice upload!!!!

  • @KissMeImPunk
    @KissMeImPunk 12 років тому

    Are you kidding me? It's exactly what he's talking about. He's talking about the transition from thrash into the more brutal death metal. Yeah he left out the Possessed part but he states in other interviews that Possessed did coin the term with the song "Death Metal" from their album Seven Churches.

  • @Mranzi76
    @Mranzi76 7 років тому +1

    Does someone knows where the record took place???

  • @manuelalejandrochavezcasti1476
    @manuelalejandrochavezcasti1476 10 років тому +2

    Grande Chuck!

  • @saharasequences6121
    @saharasequences6121 10 років тому +1

    CHUCK IS THE FUCKING MAN!

  • @8bitDude0
    @8bitDude0 8 років тому +1

    Chuck was a real ass dude

  • @raffiequler7510
    @raffiequler7510 8 років тому +1

    Chuck Schuldiner and Kirk Hammett would be a great team.

  • @iwansevana6284
    @iwansevana6284 10 років тому +3

    nice jacket..

  • @TheReincarnatedDeath
    @TheReincarnatedDeath  12 років тому

    Thank you!!

  • @WillThePill98
    @WillThePill98 10 років тому +2

    Mr Schuldiner speaks the truth!!!

  • @claudioabarca3558
    @claudioabarca3558 8 років тому

    como se llama el tema que sale en el video???? es muy bueno

  • @cosmicsea89
    @cosmicsea89 12 років тому

    A well rounded man Chuck is

  • @TheVirus-pr8zw
    @TheVirus-pr8zw 10 днів тому +1

    Chuck understood that the "satanic" stuff was lame.

  • @green1vy320
    @green1vy320 7 років тому +1

  • @sweetgyy
    @sweetgyy 10 років тому

    see you soon brother

  • @VM0451
    @VM0451 10 років тому +1

    Anvil? Holy shit...