Dune 2 will change the SciFi genre FOREVER
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- - Dune Part Two -
Finally after 2 years of wait and being delayed by the writers and actors strike of 2023, Deni Villeneuve's Dune Part Two has finally released in theatres. Dune pt 2 is easily one of the best pieces of SciFi media we've gotten in the last 20 years. I thoroughly enjoyed it but tell me your thoughts in the comments below.
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0:00 | intro
0:16 | general thoughts
0:44 | cinematography & score
3:14 | plot summary
7:44 | Characters
19:58 | 1 minor problem
20: 39 | Closing thought and rating
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My money
My ticket
My Dune
My Desert
My Arakis
My Dune
(Sorry I can't stop saying this😅)
Skarsgard was mid tbh
Oppenheimer is still better. Never compare Nolan with anyone else.
@yellowflash7696 not even close, Dune 2 is wayy better
@@sathira_anuk5179 It really depends on what genre you prefer, and the style of movie. A case can be made for both.
Dear Hollywood,
Send Dunes
Good one.
I hate your comment, simply because you beat me to the punch of saying the same thing.
And make them sandy 😂
PART 4 OR SCARED
So, you want something with spice?
To be honest delaying Dune 2 to 2024 may have been 500 IQ move. If it was released in 2023 it would have been rival with Oppenheimer for the Oscars. This year it will be the clear winner.
Also it was cuz if the writers/actors strike, this movie would not be able to get the Actors on tours and interviews to market the film. They were crucial to get people in seats (especially because a lot of them loved working on the film!)!
Dune would’ve won anyway
@@bruhbruhman349The Academy has a strong bias for biopics and historical dramas over science fiction.
It was like 10 times better than Oppenheimer. Don't get me wrong, I thought Oppenheimer was great but this was more much more impressive. But maybe the academy would be torn if they had to decide between them.
It blows Oppenheimer out of the water tbh
The shot of Paul walking through the crowd on the way to the council from the top down perspective...I've been seeing it every time I close my eyes
Yeah, it's been living rent free in Mt head too
The sense of scale is peak cinematography. It's Lawrence of Arabia on steroids.
Ya that shot was incredible.
Soooooo many brilliant and memorable shots in this film.
The shot just before with the worm thrashing in slow motion in the background is etched in my marrow
Best part was Paul going "it's duning time"
sorry what??
An absolute killer comment haha.
It's a play on "it's morbin time"
It’s wormin’ time
Love when he went duning all over the place
and then duned all over the… uh… dunes
It's not really the case that Paul is "power hungry", it's that now he sees the future he knows what he has to do, regardless what he has said his intentions were before or what people think of him. He's a tragic hero after all.
Right? He’s Michael Corleone all over again: “Do I take the power over the empire or do I let the Harkonnen dominate and torture my people (the freeme)”. There’s no good choice, only less bad ones.
Agreed, he’s certainly not a totally clean and morally superior hero, but I think saying he’s now a bad guy is taking it too far.
I think it’s disingenuous to say he doesn’t want power, even if he thinks he wants power for the “right” reason.
He’s absolutely power hungry lol. The schene where they all turn on him for a sec was meant to clearly highlight his descent. Even his body language exudes arrogance. Thats the purpose of those scenes 🙄
@@jadencastoit's not though. At least, not to Paul. He knows he just chose the Death of Billions. He knows he just chose war on a scale never seen before.
"I even question whether I should be rooting for him or not" YEEEEEEESSSSSSSS. Now you get it.
Frank Herbert approves this message
Frank Herbert rests in his grave happily. @@muffinman3052
Shows questionable media literacy that he's still questioning it
Video in beginning: "I'm not going to say this detail because I want you to watch this movie"
Video in a few minutes: "Here is the ending of the movie and also all the important plot points"
Spoiling a 59-year old book is technically less worse than stating in public that Darth Vader is the father of Luke Skywalker.
@@hanskrautenbichler5352nobody knew what the books were before the movies
@@Kingedwardiii2003 Don't take your ignorance for the consensus.
@@m.zangdar6987 well it’s true cmon, Star Wars and Star Trek were the top SIFI franchises up until recently, the original dune movies were considered failures and besides I’ve only met one person who’s read the books and that was a while back, I’m not saying they’re bad they just never had the spotlight until the recent dune movie put dune in the American conciseness
@@Kingedwardiii2003 Oh, sorry for being rude with my reply.
I think Dave Bautista as Rabban deserves more credit. He wasn't just being Dave Bautista. There was subtlety in Rabban's expressions and interactions with other characters. He wasn't just a brute, especially he starts to fail and gets replaced (and humiliated) by Feyd. I'm really looking forward to seeing more of Dave Bautista in cinema.
Agreed. I think he did a good job and showed a solid range despite his more minor role. You can tell Bautista is passionate about being an actor, and I really hope to see him in more things as he grows and improves.
Yeah, I actually felt kinda bad for his character. Like maybe he wouldn't be any near as brutal if he didn't have to be a part of the Harkonnens
I thought he did a fantastic job as Rabban.
I heard that he wants to direct, and that he struck up a friendship with Villeneuve and was observing and learning.. Zendaya too, as I heard, was really keen on staying back even when she wasn't in the scene, looking and learning. Might just be PR..
We are Bene Gesserit. We don't hope, we plan.
We are Fremen. We shit in our stillsuits.
silence
Shows they dont have faith or beliefs its all just planned
@@atiagooqkinguliaalu4027They believe in the Kwisatz Haderach.
Silence deez nuts
Can’t get my mom to stop talking about Greg and his cinematography
Moms love Greig Fraser
To be fair, I've actually had long conversations with my mom about the cinematography of Greg Fraser because we're both cinephiles with a particular appreciation for cinematography. My mom's the one who got me into movies and art analysis, so we can go on for hours picking apart films.
@@tjzambonischwartz That sounds like an absolutely amazing connection to have with a parent. My experience was vastly different 😅
20:25, This isn't an error the googles are on his face just covered by the cloth, the "glasses" auto-slide up and down when needed, on the worm . you can see this in action when they RPG-bazooka the Ornithopter.
You can also see this in the fight sequences when the face-shields/helmets auto slide...up and down. Denis Villeneuve is very meticulous, and thorough. He has been basically working on this since he was 13, it shaped his entire life...passion, discipline and dedication - his magnum opus.
*visor (glasses)
I saw his storyboard he did when he was 13 indeed, truly a passionate man, and you can feel it in every movie he does.
Already saw Dunes part 2 twice in Imax, absolutely no regrets, I think I could see it a third time just for the experience it is.
That's how I like cinema, when it feels like an experience. It is too rare, but this is also why it feels so good, last time was for Interstellar.
This. I thought I was going crazy when Andrew pointed towards the goggles and said they weren’t there
@@someusername9591dude needs to get stronger glasses cuz that was so weird
Dune is my Star Wars. It’s incredible and EVERYTHING I’ve ever wanted. I’m reading the books and watched both movies and oh my god, I just love it all. I even adore the changes, both versions are so good. 😌
Why should one exclude the other? Two completely different things.
The main difference is that Star Wars came from nowhere. There was no real previous story, books, movies to build anticipation.
Nothing preceded Star Wars ... except Dune. Oh! And The Hidden Fortress. Kudos to Lucas for presention, but the concepts are mostly 'borrowed'.
@@TonyArjona A Princess of Mars also
Paul isn't power hungry. He is on the Golden path...
Yes, he's a reluctant "savior", realizing that Arrakis & the universe need him, despite the deaths he's foreseen. The nuance of this character, some awful acts to win the war & save the people, is rarely portrayed in either history or fiction. (Alexander the Great, the roman empire...)
Well technically not Paul but yeah...
Despite Paul hating the path set for him, he'll take it because everything else is worse.
I said that on another video and people answered that I had misunderstood the books. 😊
@@ahabicher And they're right. Paul is not a hero, but a tyrant brought up by religious babble and artificially planted superstition.
Yeah, I completely agree with you. The path is clear, and he's following it. He even knows Zendaya will come around. Idk about the book, but he's definitely still the good guy.
the score is transcendent
They had me at the black screen opening (sp?) growl
@@lilymack4028sarduakar chant
i adore it
Totally agree with you. I walked out of the theater thinking “WOW, so there is SOMEONE in Hollywood today who can straight up MAKE A MOVIE.”
I was also blown away by Timothee Chalamet’s acting at the same points you were. Very powerful stuff.
May thy knife chip and shatter
May thy knife chip and shatter 😏
May _thy_ knife chip and shatter.
🗡 🔪
@@CodyPollany special attention for the pet?
@@plantmc9319you fought well Atreides
One thing I’d like to see more commentators acknowledge is how foundational Dune is as a Sci-Fi story and how pivotal it is to the genere. Remember, this book was published in 1965. Many of the ideas we see as uniquely “Star Wars” are 100% inspired by dune, and Lucas freely admits as much (cf. Jedi vs. Bene Gesserit, Controlling Galactic Empire in both, Jabba the Hut vs worm man God Emperor of Dune Leto II, young hero goes through his hero’s journey on a remote desert planet, etc.)
Exactly!!! Thank you!!!
Absolutely true. Dune is the granddaddy of ‘the one’ in sci-fi lore. Lucas ‘borrowed’ heavily from Herbert for Star Wars, so much so that Herbert was asked if he was going to sue Lucas for infringement. He opted not to do so. In a way, Star Wars crawled so Dune could fly. Villeneuve has been workshopping this IP for 40 years. Star Wars: Episode IV was released 47 years ago. I’d like to think that DV was inspired to become a filmmaker by GL & SW.
Also, uh, spice. Kessel and all that.
When you realize wH40k is almost exclusively based off dune….
You’ve probably seen it, but if not, you must watch the documentary Jodorowsky's Dune
He’s definitely not the good guy. But he is definitely not the bad guy either. It’s pure Utilitarianism.
Yep, Leto 2 and the golden path brutalizes humanity for millennia, but it’s also the only way to save humanity from extinction. Straight utilitarian.
60billion deaths seems bad no?
Definition of a antihero
It's pure "every option I picked is bad and the least worst scenario results in the death of billions."
@@concept5631 it’s either the death of untold billions or the death of the entire species. Paul couldn’t decide. His son does decide.
The scene I love is when Feyd (Austin Butler) starts laughing like a madman (spitting while laughing) when his opponent is trying to shove a knife into his face. The acting from Butler and the arena fight scene overall is jaw dropping no matter how many times I watch it.
The moment before the ending where he said "Lead them to paradise" you can see pain on his eyes knowing the billions would suffer. Obviously he doesn't want it to happen.
"I'm not usually a fan of hand zimmer" those are fighting words.
LOL
I was like EXCUSE ME??
I am a fan of Hans Zimmer and his work is always top quality, but I dislike how absent music is in today's movies in general. Crime movies don't have memorable themes like The Godfather and Once Upon A Time In America. Fantasy movies don't have loud Wagner-like orchestral music like Conan the Barbarian and Lord of the Rings. Adventure movies don't have catching themes like Indiana Jones and Pirates of the Caribbean.
I believe we are in a not so great era of cinema music. Dune however is a perfect soundtrack and I would not want it to be any different.
I don't think Dune is redefining Sci Fi, it's more of a return to form.
underrated comment. people who say its gonna "redefine" sci-fi obv dont know about how much the books already did that lmfao. this does feel like a reminder tho, "hey, remember when movies like this were awesome and had stuff for you to think about?"
@@GETJILTEDFL Andrew there is about 12 and never saw any real sci-fi in the pictures for himself.
A few things, Paul is not the Kwisatz Haderach. He is only a seed. Paul's son, Leto the second is the Kwisatz Haderach.
Second, although Paul is not "the good guy" in a stereotypical sense, he is not the bad guy either. What he is doing and all the death he will bring does have the greater purpose of eventually saving all of humanity from destruction. It's just that this is the only way to actually do this.
Paul is the kwisatz haderach, in fact leto admits his prescience might be worse than his fathers. Paul doesn’t make anything of his power and leads billions to death. Leto is hero in that he had the balls to sacrifice himself to save humanity.
Paul is not the good guy, unless your a fremen who lives through the war so like a fraction of a percent of the universe at most
Spoilers brother cmon😭
Dune Messiah is 55 years old@@dylanbarrett5454
One thing, you said that this movie is not trying to be other franchise like star wars, etc. But the Dune books literally inspired the creator of star wars to make the movies, the Voice being the Force, and others inspirations
Every frame is peak cinema 👌
America is a urinal
Stilgar and Chani are different from the books and even different from how they briefly came across in movie 1, but in a way I really didn't mind? Like it was a really good and useful way to highlight those ends of the belief spectrum and develop a sense of cultural conflict
I hated Chani and I couldn’t understand why until I saw one reviewer saying that he felt so identified with her and then it hit me: she doesn’t feel freemen, she feels like an American girl. And then all her lines and gestures made sense.
@@pamelagonzalez8947 I think that's a pretty fair observation. It wasn't a dealbreaker for me - there were a couple of moments/scenes that felt very pertinent to current times, and I wonder how they'll age in 10 to 20 years, but it's also difficult I think to make a movie with these themes that are so relevant and not give occasional self-aware winks to the audience
@@pamelagonzalez8947yeah, for me it really felt like I was watching Zendaya herself plopped down into the world of Dune. It didn’t ruin the movie for me, and I can’t really imagine someone else for her, but she DID sorta seem like MJ going through a rough patch.
@@pamelagonzalez8947 I have to say that I completely disagree, Zendaya and Javier Bardem were probably my two favourite actors in Dune 2, in terms of the quality of their performances. I thought she nailed the wariness and no-nonsense approach (and the perpetual preparedness for a loss) of a person whose whole life is spent at war. And then the moments when she chills out with her friends showed a bit more of who she is inside, until finally we see ease, vulnerability and tenderness when she decides to trust Paul and open up to him. And still later on she's heartbroken and angry with Paul for betraying her, but still loves him and is afraid for him during his duel... Zendaya's performance had me completely convinced, I thought she showed so many facets of Chani's story, and considering how much happens in the movie, there aren't even that many scenes that focus solely on their relationship.
Which is utter bullshit. Stilgar is Chani's uncle. She grew up in his HOME. Chani in the book would never act like the spoiled brat she is in the movie. To mock a Naib is to challenge his authority. It's a demand to fight to the death, and for her to flounce off... she'd better be heading to Jacurutu, because they're the only ones who would take her in after that.
My favorite part was when Paul looked at the emperor and said “this is our dune, too.”
My favorite part was when Muad'Dib said "it's dibbin' time!" and dibbed all over the place.
20:25 he's already wearing the goggles here, if you look closely at the dark frame surrounding his eyes. The costume department maybe wanted the neck goggles to stand out more while unused so it's tinted, while on the closeups they want to emphasize his eyes so the goggles are crystal clear, and obviously on the last one they have a sandy pair emphasizing the ride.
in an earlier scene in the movie it was the goggles were shown to be retractable underneath the covering as well! we also see fremens face masks retract several times!
Lisan Al Ghaib literally translates to Tongue of the Absent
Ghaib may also mean the Unseen, or Otherworldly
in this setting it means voice from the outer world
@@magicalmagicmagician5223 I can see that. I wonder if this can also refer to Bani Jeseret (spelling) in that they have their voice in Paul's head. An absent voice, or from another world/place as you say
@@neonpop80bene gesserit, btw
The intended translation is Voice from the outerworld
It’s so satisfying to see a film about a hard sci-fi novel actually take the serious tone the book intended rather than just using the title for clout and profit
Admittedly I read the Dune series over 20 years ago, so I'm not as attached to certain details as I might have been otherwise, but I think the changes in the Chani plot (her scepticism of Paul as the Lisan al-Gaib) was a great choice, because
1) it makes the dynamic between them much more equal and healthy, Paul has to earn her trust and love as a person, he's not just given it as a saviour - and she holds him accountable as a person too.
2) it also makes the dynamic more complicated and interesting, of course (she loves him as a person, but is afraid of what the veneration around him is going to mean for her people), and
3) through her, the audience keeps being reminded that Paul is an anti-hero, not a hero; without it it would have been so much easier to get swept up into his story and cheer him on even when we know this path will lead to a great bloodshed. Chani following him into the war for the sake of her people, while simultaneously being heartbroken and angry about the way he went back on what he had promised her, was a very compelling story. I wanted them to be together, but I also completely understood and agreed with her sense of betrayal.
Finally, Zendaya's Chani is very determined and no-nonsense, so (in my opinion) this scepticism suited her portrayal (I loved the fact that her resting expression in the movie, especially in the outdoor scenes, was so serious, distrusting and frowning - you can tell that it's a character who has little reason to smile and be carefree when out on a mission. It was a great contrast with the scenes with her friends and especially with Paul when she finally opens up to him).
Also the choice to have different Fremen factions of believers and non-believers was a fantastic choice, adding extra complexity and layers to a society that's supposed to comprise millions of people, and helping to further humanise them (otherwise there's a risk of falling into "naive natives" trope).
'naive natives', also known as 'people surviving on their faith'. Might be coloring them too much with the people Robert Jordan turned them into, but I still do not think Dune is the sort of environment where you survive with the same ease you do today. so the vast majority, to the point of any naysayers keeping quiet for fear of being expelled, following the promised one makes sense. it is what their faith has told them to do for who knows how long.
I can't remember the last time (if ever) multiple shots in a movie actually made my jaw drop to the floor.
20:19
I think this isn't a continuity error.
They start from around his neck, then after a few cuts, you might think it's completely gone, but you can see the frame of the goggles. The color of the lenes/glass just blends in with his skin tone. Even though you don't see him put it on, it is implied that he wore it. Then when he's riding the worm, his goggles that he's wearing is made much more visible due to the sand that's covering it, than it being as clear as when he put it on.
Idk tho, but that's just my theory. (btw great video, i enjoyed it :D)
Chani won't go home because she needs to give birth to Leto II and Ghanima.
😖hopefully that’s the route The movie takes
@@ShadowKing006I doubt that will happen, Denis only plans to cover Messiah, and due to the complex nature of the later books, it would be difficult to translate them into movies, especially God Emperor, though I can't deny how cool it would be to see Leto II in his worm form, and of course the rest of Dune with Denis' vision. So it makes sense Chani ran away in the ending
The twins are born at the end of Mesiah.
All I got to say is Pauls goggles are under his head wrap on his forehead. When he needed them, he could just pull them down while the strap remains under the head wrap. So he doesnt lose them, while also keeping them dust and dirt free before he jumps on the worm.
Hey, Rogue One is my favorite Star Wars. Yeah, i said it! Meet me behind the school and well fight it out!
You might be right
Good to know you like Disney cock
Yup. A belter of a film.
I will also be there to support you
My sweet summer child, wait until the story progresses to the later books when you complain about no Duncan Idaho.
I saw another comment like this earlier, and I said we're going to have to wait a reeeeeeallly long time to get there haha.
Franchise most likely ends with the second book. At least with Villenevue as director.
@@tilenkobeif the third movie does well i hope we get a Sci Fi tv series to continue. It would need a hell of a budget, but I think we need it
Thanks for the spoiler, you jerk.
I watched it 3 times (so far), so glad to know there are 6 time goers out there that make me look not so over the top! 😅
You definately aren't alone, lovely young lady. I watched the first one 3 times in 3 different cinemas. I'll do the same for this one as well. Gifted tickets to friends and family, because I wanted them to share in this experience wth me. First time I had been back in a cinema in 30 years was for the first movie in 2021. I still have no regrets.
@@neo4reo And you know what? I believe we are on a mission. A mission to show that a non main stream high quality story can fill the theaters and a mission to make sure there is going to be a Dune Messiah by Denis Villeneuve. I don’t mind putting my money on that, while I have a blast at the movies every single time! 🤗
I will watch it for the 3rd time this friday or saturday
I think Dune 1 will change Hollywood forever. Dune 2 is just more of the same. But I think Dune 2 stands out so much more because Marvel has gotten so much worse. The world is hungry for a high-budget epic story, and Dune 2 filled that void.
Marvel was falling apart before Dune 1, this isn’t a new thing. And also the faltering super hero movie sphere doesn’t share much in common with Dune, the Star Wars comparison is much more applicable
@@Flash4ML the commonality is “movie universe with a long story and a lot of lore.” Marvel reached a climax with 10 years of buildup with Endgame. After that it was impossible for Marvel to keep things going. All good things must come to an end. Since Endgame, Marvel has gotten worse and worse.
I think Dune 2 has more in common with Return of the Jedi than Empire Strikes Back.
I have to believe the 2 he mentioned was the second book. nothing in the story so far is all that genre changing. but the books go some fucking weird places. we get THAT shit on screen....things will not be the same. :)
@@hansolav5924 We're not getting God Emperor and stuff, at least not from Denis. He said he'll (probably) finish the Paul arc and then leave it to whoever else wants to make Dune stuff, and who knows how that goes
Is it wrong to play with your worm during this review?
Bless the maker and his water
Bless the coming and going of him
@@ActuallyAndrewYT
"Tighten your grip, Rabban. Or feel mine on your neck."
I want to play with my worm during this movie
🤣🤣🤣
@@CannoliSasquatch”Squeeze Rabban, squeeze hard”
No Duncan Idaho. 0/10
It’s just true.
Dune Messiah bayybee!
Mild spoiler for future Dune
There will be more than enough Duncans in the future.
Bring me more Duncans!!!
Long live the potato man!
Just wait for the future movies. Worm daddy and Duncan idaho banging every chick in the galaxy.
The fight in the colosseum, te attack on the emperor and the two fights inside sand clouds are literally burned into my brain. These shots were just absolute adrenalin rushes and it has been a long time since i have been this much immersed into a movie and its world. I just frickin love it
Watched this movie about 2 weeks ago and it's still on my mind. I particularly can't stop thinking about the fight scene between Feyd and Paul.
If the whole world agrees that Dune 2 is a masterpiece of cinema and one of the greatest films ever created (myself included) and we somehow still don’t get Dune Messiah, I’ll lose all hope in reality.
Dune: Messiah will release sometime between 2027 and 2029, but it is still in the early stages of making
@@somedumbspammer4408 Exactly and a delay to spring
The Call of Duty Warzone operator pack in the shop goes hard lmao 😂 😂
You under appreciating Dave Bautista’s incredible portrayal of a man with all the power, both physical and political, anyone could ever want but crumbling under his own fear of losing said power, is wild. In his limited screen time he perfectly showed what was going on with his character. Do better.
The interaction between Stilgar and Gurney with the subtle argument about the place he hid the nukes was soooo funny and reflected their dynamic as commanders under Paul with different ideologies from the books very well
Speaking of movies that sweater is definitely the movie theatre floor from the ealry 2000s
2:42 i think this is a case of Zimmerman actually enjoying his work. In an interview, he talks about how he just couldn't stop writing more Dune music. Even after the whole film was shot, edited, and complete, Zimmerman kept sending Villeneuve more tracks and samples until he told him to stop. But even then, he didn't stop writing. There were two different Dune albums he released to accompany two different artbooks. I haven't heard Zimmerman this inspired since Pirates of the Caribbean.
You really just said you didn’t want to spoil anything while talking about the sand worm… but then spoiled EVERY OTHER THING in the movie.
Without warning lol
Paul going Super Saiyan after drinking the water was amazing. He talked and moved like he knew the whole Universe was his for the taking 🔥
"There are no sides"
I feel like that really empathizes as a whole the overall ending of Dune, it starts with the Mua'Dib fighting against the Baron and the Emperor, and yet Paul at the end essencially becomes just as bad by the end of the story
9:14 I love the quick shot of Feyd Rautha's reaction to Paul silencing the Mohiam (not shown in this vid)
If you look closely at your minor problems shots, in the second one he already had the googles it was just clear : 20:26
The only reason you see after those shots is because the sand and dirt hit the lens of the googles after he jumped on the worm 20:35
Paul isn't power hungry, he sees the future and in his eyes, this narrow path out of thousands (or millions?) of other potential futures is the one that best serves humanity. Now whether he's right or wrong is up for interpretation.
He is power hungry tho. He wants the power to enact revenge for his father. He says this in the film.
He is not trying to serve humanity he manipulated the fremen to regain his power
It's not necessarily the path that best serves humanity at all, just the path that guarantees humanity's survival. Even without that path humanity could fully well survive, and the cost of that guarantee is immense. If you had to press a button which instantly killed a billion people, many of them through slow and painful torturous deaths, in order to guarantee your own survival, would you do it? Would it be ethical?
@@hoon_sol Well, that's the whole point of the dilema. Do you kill billions to save humanity? Yes or no? And again we go based on what he says which he may or may not be right. You say without the golden path, they may still survive but based on his visions, he says they won't. So we don't know what's what.
@@holymolystudios8467 According to his visions, this is the only way to save the Fremen. Whether that's true or not is another story. If he was that power hungry, he would have went South right at the beginning of the movie, not until the end when he couldn't find another path.
Dune 2 is th best documentary ever made.
Documentaries will never be the same again.
Dune is revolutionising sci-fi......again
I had always heard about dune since my reader teacher in 8th grade was a big fan of it, but energy really got into it myself. I watched part 1 in the theater and it just spiraled from there, this is some of the best sci fi media I’ve ever seen. I watched the both movies, watched a fan edit of the Lynch movie, and I’ve l learned more about the lore. The Dune universe is awesome and I wonder what Frank Herbet himself would think of these 2020s movies if he was still alive
The goggles are on as soon as he puts the head wrap on. You see in the scene with harkonens that the lens flip down. You can see the edges of the googles in the wrap
This is one of the greatest films of all time. In every conceivable aspect.
Our boy Duncan will be back very soon.
I will force Warner Bros to make Dune Messiah with all the powers of my wallet
Peak fiction
As a book reader i cannot believe i live in the timeline where Dune is so openly talked about and loved.
Peak
LOved by a handful of cultist. MOst people who bought it never read the thing. Awful junkie hokum that people ascribe some deep philosophical meaning to. It's a drug induced bastardisation of LOTR and Foundation. Nothing more.
PS. It's not Sci-Fi given the complete lack of actual science in the fiction.
Dune: Changing science fiction forever since 1965
Because people read it and went this istotal shite and decided to write their own stories which were all much better?
that feeling you guys are having is what we old people felt back when blade runner came out. it was life changing movie. not so much like the star wars 77 event that it was. that just blew peoples minds. this movie is the best sci fi movie I have ever seen and I have been waiting for decades for this film
It's SO REFRESHING to finally have a massive scifi or fantasy epic journey saga with the lead character not being your average beacon of light morally perfect hero and rather someone nuanced and morally grey. I can not wait for Dune: Messiah to be adapted as I feel that the ending will catch more than one person used to conventional storytelling with their guard down. It's a shame that the rest of dune is near impossible to adapt into movies/shows coz I'd love to see how Villeneuve would have figured certain aspects of the lore out (for those who have no clue about the lore: SHIT GETS CRAAAAAAAAAAZY and I mean CRAZY as in Dune 2 was maybe 3% of what this franchise has to offer in terms of craziness)
Completely disagree that Paul was power hungry by the end.
He wanted to be with Chani. But the only way to protect the Fremen from eventual annihilation, including Chani, was to win.
And winning killed him, he lost the woman he loved. And billions would die. But it protected Chani’s life. It was…a sacrifice.
Does no-one else get this plot?
Yes, I get it (book reader here). I'd go further & say that his marriage offer to the princess was to SAVE Chani & everyone. He known that he'd have to marry Irulan for awhile; his sister reminding him of that. It's why he made a point o telling Chani that he'd love her to his dying breath...and he does.
@@lilymack4028 Good point about the marriage.
I thought it very odd that much of the audience forgot about Paul’s emotional turmoil throughout the movies and of truly wanting to deny his destiny. And at the ultimate moment, he sacrificed his happiness and chance at lasting love.
I think being power-hungry while simultaneously seeing that sacrifices have to be made, or deciding to make them regardless (and feeling sorry for the suffering it will bring) are not necessarily mutually exclusive. That's what makes him such an interesting and compelling character. He does ultimately convince himself that he's choosing the greater good, but it just so happens that this supposed greater good conveniently benefits mainly him personally (he's not gonna loose Chani either, she agrees to be his concubine in the book and even in the movie he says that she'll come back. So he's not really sacrificing her and he knows that. That's why, in my opinion, he's not actively trying to get her back in the movie).
@@AW-uv3cb If you have read the books, you’d know that there is more at stake than him seeking the crown. He’s grappling with decisions to save humanity itself.
He was in internal anguish across films about the death he would cause if/when he took the throne, but he knew there was a much larger benefit to him being on the throne. Far more than sheer leadership.
The culmination of the film was a loooong heartbeat of him very reluctantly taking that step to unleash his war.
And to give up the possibility of marrying the woman you truly love for another, is of course, shattering on a level I don’t think you are recognizing.
@@naturestillnesswhat the majority of the people missed is that the bene gueserit escalated the conflict on purpose to force Paul or Feyd to become the next emperor.
Muadib didn't have much of a choice. It is indeed a tragedy
I was shocked when I learned that Grieg Fraiser was the cinematographer for Rogue One and the Batman too. No wonder they both look so good
This man really missed the opportunity to say "too much talkin, not enough Chiristopher Walken"
This movie is incredible. Period. Nice review and synopsis!
Of note, I'm pretty sure the goggles were just under his head wrap. You can see the frames around his eyes under his wrap during the closeup just before Paul's ride. 20:23
Earlier in the movie, during the sand crawler battle, both Paul and Chano are wearing their goggles. When they come out from under the crawler and start running it shows the lenses snap open (automatically? They didnt touch them to do it).
So I think Paul activated the lenses while running across the Dune before jumping to catch the worm.
Btw the goggles have retractable lenses and in the scene right before the worm ride where he has the cloth surrounding his face, the lenses are retracted but he activates them in the next cut for the worm ride
Dune 2 was so F!!!!!ing good man, loved the summary and video man
14:36 all I will say is, Chani is just as much of a main character in Messiah, as she is in this movie. If not more
I need to go see this agaaain. now that I have a better understanding of the story. And I was following it, but everything was still a mystery. But yeah. Peak film making this is. I'm glad to have experienced it.
Hey I appreciated this review. I don't know anything from your channel. But if you're like me, your feed is all DUNE right now.
What I appreciate about this review is it clearly comes from someone totally green to the Dune world. ("Nissan al Gieb" was my favorite 🤣)
And that's what's so masterful about this film. It's hitting everyone differently but still getting us there together.. Busting in unison 🙌
I feel, as a book fan, I need to defend the frustration you've heard about Chani. The main issue many are having is about the story to come. Not to get too spoilery on you, but Chani being Paul's ride-or-die queen in this part of the story is VERY important to the next book Dune: Messiah. And many are worried this has been completely removed from the story... because Chani hates Paul now.
It isn't that Paul is gaslighting the Freman. It's that their liberation is dependent on Paul. And Paul's prescience is the only way they can defeat the Harkonnens and the evil emperor. To put it another way, without Paul, the Freman will be forever trapped, hunted, killed or enslaved. With zero chance of success. Anymore than rebels in Afghanistan could beat the Russians in the 80's without the US/CIA arming them to the teeth.
However, in both cases Dune and Afgan in the 80's, what thise events LEAD to are VERY bad. And the movie spells it out. "The Holy War begins". Which is left vague until the 2nd book.
The main purpose behid Dune is for the reader to understand that no matter who you are, you're fully capable of being swept up in a cult. It's a part of the human condition for everyone to have a breaking point of faith in a charismatic leader. Could be religious or political or anything. And this point would have been even more dialed in if Chani would have been converted in the great council scene. But I understand, they need a shortcut to certain aspects of the story that keep the audience tethered to reality more than the book would at that point.
And that no matter how good Paul's intentions may be, or how reluctant he is to leading them into a tragic war... it becomes inevitable. If he wants to free the Freman and avenge his family, it will trigger the Holy War leading to the death of billions.
Paul isn't faking anything. He is their liberator. It was fortold. And it did come true. The political discourse between the Freman was a nice touch. And regardless of Chani's future role in the trilogy, she did a good job keeping the audience afraid of what's to come. Even if it was a little modern in thought. It only took me out of it initially of the first viewing. Before I reconciled what Denis was trying to do with the trilogy. And at this point, I really don't care if part 3 resembles the books at all. So long as it's a good movie. It would honestly be an anticlimactic way to wrap up the films if it were shot as written. Besides being an 8 hour+ movie. So I hope they just go off road with it. And keep it spicy.
10/10
Great comment!
Very good comment. I'd like to add that the movie's message is more logical than the book's in some aspects. In the movie Paul's choice is "start Jihad or let the Fremen be annihilated". In the book it's: "bigger or smaller Jihad". And I don't see the reason for Fremen to fight on the other planets. On the other hand, the book shows, that whatever one's powers might be, there will always be some things out of his control.
Every video I’ve seen so far has talked about Paul’s “betrayal” to Chani. Now I have never read the books but the idea I got from the film was Paul was doing that to protect her. He has seen images of her dying and I was wondering if he followed the path of marrying irulan to prevent Chani’s death. Many times during the end of the movie Paul made eye contact with Chani almost evidence he still cares for her. The more obvious evidence is when he says he will love her until his last breath. So I really hope this isn’t the end to Chanis’s character masterfully played by Zendaya.
16:12. Yeah definitely didn't see the lack of exploring this as an issue, but that would make things so much more satisfying to have a moment of them talking, discussing,
Dude I'm almost done watching this video. I've watched a lot of review videos for dune 2 and yours is one of the better ones, totally deserves way more views. You're the first one to bring up that costume discontinuity, good catch, we saw the movie 4 times in 4 different formats this month and I didn't notice lol.
Chani is in the second novel Dune Messiah as Paul's concubine while he's married to irulan. He only gives love to chani n his line continues through chani not irulan Paul just uses irulan he married her but doesn't love her or show any love to her so she writes history books about Paul n his rise to power she writes books about Paul which later are history books. Chani is integral to Dunne Messiah and don't know how there gonña do it since chani is still with paul throughput dune Messiah hope they don't change all of this
Oh, Chani will be back. As Paul already said after drinking the water of life and seeing the future, she will come to understand. And Paul wasn't lying about his love for her 🙂
Agree about the track "Arrival". The power of the song and the change in color/costume as he enters the crowd knocked this out of the park. He looks changed and powerful. Brilliant. Chalamet is PERFECT. In the first film, he is a boy that is learning and frightened. He NAILED IT.
The best part was when this movie went full Life of Brian... please tell me someone else here understood that reference.
a bawdy parody on the life of the true messiah
15:32
The whole theater laughed at that part
the book came about before that movie...
I only regret is I saw Dune 1 only four times.
Spot on .. best cinematography and design I've seen for a long while. Loved it!
Chani sort of has to come back. She is a major part of the second book. There is a line in the book where Jesica tells her something like "We may be called concubines, but history will know us as wives. The princess will never know the tenderness of her husband". In the books, Paul is 100% romantically loyal to Chani, but he marries the emperor's daughter for political reasons and Chani understands since Paul only loves Chani and never really shows love/affection towards his wife.
Film of the year when we have Kraven coming in August??
SMH.
True I forgot about Sony’s new hit film “kraven the hunter” coming out August 30, 2024 that will blow the audience away and make another Morbillion dollars for Sony.
Great review, nice to see someone praise something.
Yeah finally. Good movie.
After listening to your review, I'm actually more impressed how they were able to update a book published in the 1960s to current day thinking.
We need the people that made this movie to make THE Warcraft movie (Arthas' Story). It would be fucking glorious. The style, the music, the cinematography, the mood of it all. All fucking perfect.
14:13 😊I love this background … MS_Paint ?? 🤔 seriously… Hard Boiled.
10:15 One of the only minor gripes I had was the reference to him asPsychotic rather than Psychopathic. Big misconception. Medically, beingPsychotic is what you see with severe illnesses likeSchizophrenia, where a person hears voices or sees things that aren't there, crippling anxiety, nervousness, paralytic fear etc which in turn massively impairs their ability to function normally in a day to day life.
WhilePsychopathic is the theDark, cunning, calculating, manipulative, sadistic and unempathetic stuff you see withPsychopaths like Dexter or Hannibal Lector, Baron Hakonnen, Ramsey Snow (Bolton - GOT), etc
Yup, this movie was amazing. You are so right about this movie actually been a blockbuster film. It has been a very long time since there actually has been one.
He's got his goggles on, they're just clean so you can't see them, right?
It's actually a visor that comes up when needed. You can see it in action when they take down the ornithopter with the Fremen bazooka.
I would just say, read the book to understand why people complain about Chani in the movie. It's a wholesale change to her personality from book to movie.
I've read the book, movie chani is a better character
There are quite a few changes that make for a better narrative
The original Leto 2, the lack of jamis children, alia killing the baron and fenring are all better absent
I don't see any changes that were for the worse, only omissions, but those are for the sake of adaptation simplicity
I do feel that Jamis funeral was a sorely missed omission but the film was still great.
@@maxotto9877 Agree to disagree
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I don't know why, she's kind of a nothing character in the book
@@maxotto9877they take the water off Jamis at the beginning. I think that it is enough of a funeral. Besides he died defieing Paul in a duel.. The audience do not mourn his death..
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All I miss is the line by Paul stating Jamis was a friend
It never felt more appropriate to chant somebodys name outloud than in this movie
nice video, casual yet insightful, nice job
Dune is meant to be a warning about the reliance on religion and the reluctance of self-determination. However, Paul's character is interesting because the movie makes it seem like in the second half that he sees the only path to success for the Fremen is to go on the Holy War, and I kind of agree. It seems that spice is too important and valuable to the entire Imperium, that the war for Arrakis, and by extension the Fremen will never end. As Paul sees the future, the Fremen as a people have only one option to keep their way of life, and Paul has to use all the tools he has at his command, even if it means lying to the Fremen to achieve their goals. As far as Paul knows, he is still manipulating the Fremen into following him into battle, but he is the Kwasit Haddarack (an already prophesized being) and this seems to be Paul's and the Fremen's only chance to strike at the rotten core of the Imperium and the other Houses including Harkonnen. There's like 5 more books after the first one that I haven't read so I assume not everyone lives happily ever after in the second book, but If you're on the side of Paul or not at the end is completely dependent on whether or not you're a "ends justify the means" kind of person. I feel like for the Fremen, securing peace for generations by going to war would be preferable than dying a slow death in the desert when each House is replaced by another again and again to go and mine the spice eternally.
well dune is mainly about how deep man-made systems of control can penetrate the human condition and or the literal metaphysical fabric of social existance. It's very in-tune with the speculative movement about Cybernetics in the 60s. Humankind in Dune already has nearly lost itself severa times over to automated systems of control, most famously in the conflict with Artificial Intelligence which led to the Butlerian Jihad and the declartion of thinking-machines to be Abomination. That in turn is what made the turbo-eugenics of this universe necessary in the first place: mentats are literal human computers, navigators HAVE to see the feature because thats the only way to navigate FTL travel without either computers or ending up in the center of a star - and in turn they are barely human anymore and literally completely dependent on Spice.
However, the events of the first novels and basically everything Paul is and does is only a rather insignificant prequel to Leto II and his golden path, which aims at nothing less than ensuring human existance in the future (and humans still being humans). Fremen are basically going extinct while Arrakis is being terraformed to become more hospitable. Religions come and go. There are several millenia time lapses inbetween books.
Do people notice the similarities between Eren Yaeger and Paul? Reluctant saviors of prophecy that want to save everyone but realise they have to create tragedy through genocide to get there?
"Arrival" as a song really is peak. The absolute guttural feel of the build up is straight up something I never knew I wanted in music. It sounds so dark and gross and raw and just friggin perfect.
"Sister, Father is dead. Shouldn't you go back to the stars, be with him? "
the worm riding goggles continuity was my only complaint about the movie as well!
They are googles with visors that go up automatically. You can catch that little detail on the Harkonnen spice harvester attack scene, when Chani and Paul want to take down the ornithopter.
He literally has them on the whole time...
They're ON HIS FACE under the scarf. You're both blind.