The thing that gets me is that when Paul is out of the thopter during the sand worm attack on the mining vehicle, he says, “I hear your footsteps, old man.” We’re supposed to think he’s talking to Gurney, but Shai-Hulud, the Fremen word for the sand worm, means ‘Old man of the desert.’ Paul wasn’t talking to Gurney. He was talking to the sand worm. Denis Villeneuve gets it.
Interesting fact: the March that the atreides bagpipes play when arriving at Arrakis is written as a traditional funeral march rather than a military style march, Hans Zimmer literally told us that marching off the ships into the city was the action of House Atreides marching to their deaths
That really explains why it sounds so eerie in the beginning, but massive props to Zimmer for still making it sound noble and heroic, very appropriate for the Atreides
@@void-creature agreed, especially since Atreides are fiercely committed to answering every call, anyone could be a call to their deaths and eradication
So many movie/TV versions minimize the loving father aspect of Duke Leto the Just.... He went to phenomenal lenghts to make sure his son was prepared in every single way, to survive and rule. He also chose a non-political mate... And he cared about his people..
Its such a wonderful touch to drive home the point that while Leto might not be powerful, seen as an 'animal' by Bene Gesserits, and doomed to fail, he is still very sympathetic, not just honourable, but loving, even to his downfall. Also any son probably gets emotional watching this, reminds me of The Last Crusade, fantastic writing, so simple yet effective and sold fantastically by Oscar.
The movie was my first experience with Dune and the way it was going I was very much expecting Leto to be a rigourous upper class father with lofty expectations and little love in his heart, so it was welcome to see him show genuine care for his son
I think one of the things that struck me is how Rebecca Ferguson managed to sell me on the worries of a mother vs. the serenity and control of a bene gesserit. She's POWERFUL, often scary, but her breakdown when she is ORDERED to leave the room where she might return to find her son dead on the floor with her powerless to stop it... pure horror, played with chilling realism... and yet her vulnerability is never at the cost of Lady Jessica's strength and dignity.
@@A-G-A-G Well, it's partly from the book, where she was almost always in absolutely iron-clad control on the outside, even if internally she was on the verge of a breakdown. That's part of what being Bene Gesserit is. But that's hard to communicate in a visual medium, an actor retaining a stoic exterior while broadcasting inner turmoil to the audience (which isn't to say it can't be done, Soldier with Kurt Russel is an excellent example). Compare Francesca Annis in Lynch's version, who mostly maintained that stoic control (a few scenes aside), but was very good at displaying inner conflict. Not saying that's superior, just that some book fans might find this interpretation of Jessica very different from what the book described. Which, again, I'm not saying is bad. This interpretation has grown on me and I think it works well enough for the character that it's fine, but those who have read the books (or decide to read them after seeing this) can see a different take on conveying the same information to the audience.
Also the best Jessica we've seen, Lynch's Jessica was all over the place breaking down, when she should have been strong, and vise versa. What I wish was in the movie, was Duncan and Jessica's fight when he got drunk and accused her of being a spy, awesome character development for both and comes back in the sequel books.
Never read the books, never watched the old movie, went into this completely blind only know it’s a giant desert planet with sand worms. And I plan on going into the next movie just as blind. And I am loving this movie so much!!!!
Same. I knew nothing about this movie or the books, outside of that they exist. Went to see it in theatres just because I heard it was good, and wow, what a great movie!
That's really cool....However, once the films are done, you should go back and read the books to experience Herbert's vision too. You won't regret it. Some of the best written books ever made.
@@21jd_ I did that when the first movie came out. In some ways it was a disappointment, because the film differs from the book in several important aspects and it is just too short for all of the book. But the book tells so much more.
@@reinhard8053 yeah that's kinda what I meant - the movie was already a lot at first because I didn't know Dune at all. but when I read the book it turned out to be a way more complex world than what they could condense into a movie. also this movie covers the first half of the book, the rest will be in part 2 which comes out late this year i think
I originally got a copy of Dune a few months before the movie came out, but at the time I couldn't get into it. This past october, I decided to give it another chance on a whim and I've been hooked on the books since. I've just started Heretics, it's such a good series and I'm glad I actually gave it a shot.
I interpreted those “thirsty” looks as, “We came from royalty and were getting naked on a rock in the desert, my mother is pregnant and I don’t know how to keep her alive, we have no supplies or help.. this may be one of the last times I see my mother before we wrap up and head into danger.” And “I saw this coming and I still can’t believe it’s happening. I’m pregnant and don’t know how I’ll survive this and keep my promise and keep my son alive. He’s grown so much but he’s still growing and changing and I cannot afford to leave him on his own. My baby boy is all grown up and he has no choice but to become a warrior, a leader, and a target, like his father.” To me it was basically both of them considering taking a moment to talk and discuss things but both deciding they don’t have time for it and just getting on with their mission. It’s a sad scene because it’s the next stage of the death of Paul. The first was the dart, the second was the crawl out of the sand and looking at his namesake and the third was this… him deciding not to comfort his pregnant mother, and to just become something new… a pseudo Fremen warrior and embrace those horrifying visions and take revenge. The final was his fight with Jamis.. Basically Jessica knew her son was going to live, but also die. In order to keep her promise to Leto, she would also have to break it. Paul would physically survive, but Paul Atreides would die, symbolically and realistically he’s gone.. Letos son is going to die, and become something new, something different and she knows it. On that rock, in the burning sun, she knew she was looking at her son for the last time as he is… he would never be the same after he put that suit on. For Paul, he knew he had to keep his mother safe and knew he was making a huge choice by putting on that suit and choosing to survive and fight, and he understood that she needs to be protected and survive because she is the last thing he has and the last reminder of his father lives inside her. It’s a nice moment for me.. sad, but nice. Two people who love each other but know that love is a weakness right now.. affection and softness will get them killed on this planet. So just a few glances and a mutual understanding is all they get.
Beautiful comment. It also reveals how primed we are to perceive 'romantic /thirsty' elements. We never really get a mother/ son story in epics, so that confused it too.
I am glad I miss the reflex to think of something as "thirsty". Guess when you've had your fair share of problems, you start to realize how others share similar responses to worry, fear and the need to keep going.
yeah sure, but... Couldn't those looks have been given when they WEREN'T undressing and glancing over their shoulders at each other, looking awfully dang shy about their muscles?
As someone who watched it in IMAX it was amazing, I was completely immersed and it was an amazing experience. Leaving the cinema it felt like I was returning to our world from truly being inside the story, it felt amazing.
Something else I really love about this movie is how the stalwart, warrior-culture Atreides in no way stifles Paul for his little moments of physical intimacy with his friends. He bounds over excited to them and gives them hugs and that's just normal. It's such a small detail that goes (at least for me) SO far in really showing you how this house operates.
"I recognise your footsteps old man." Paul is talking about the sounds of the approaching worm, the old man of the desert. But it is Guerney walking up behind him, so it has the double meaning that Dune is famous for.
@@coolwinterstorm5803 And since all humans age, Paul's own future -- when he becomes the old man of the desert. AT least triple, quadruple if you include Paul becoming an actual older human.
Meh. Nothings point at that in the movie, so... proudly displaying that you can read book, and then talk about them in comments to make you look smart is... not a win.
A detail I realized after re-watching it several times (and it's a win in my book) is that Duke Leto confesses to Paul that he wanted to be a pilot, and he is actually the first to spot the wormsigns... So yeah it makes sense, the Duke was Pilot Material! Great eyesight.
Duuuuuude how did you not win the scene of Paul saying to the reverend mother "you dismiss my mother in her own house?" followed by the POV of the voice making it feel as involuntary as it is.
I absolutely LOVED the visions of Jamis being his friend and mentor. It perfectly illustrates the imperfectness of Paul's prescience. And also makes it more plausible when he says " I was a friend of Jamis."
15:59 The coolest part for me in that scene is the knowledge that the sand worm we are looking at is a small one. The one that took out the crawler was way bigger. And in the deep desert, where none but the fremen dare to travel, there are some even bigger than that.
The longest recorded being 450m long. For those who pay attention, that's longer than a Nimitz class aircraft carrier. Longer worms are suspected in the polar regions.
@@BlackEpyon jeezz, isn't that almost half a km? and these thing basically just free roaming the planet? how the heck did anything survive and how did such enormous entities came to be? from what I know, they can also predict the future?
@@iepvienredstoneHuy007 I don't know anything about the earlier worms predicting the future, but the worms that came after Leto II's death carried "pearls of his awareness" and had some limited ability to somehow know where to be in the right place at the right time.
As a total Dune novice (except for knowing the McElroys love it), there were moments during this movie when I actually thought “I can’t believe what I’m watching, I live in a time when films like THIS exist.” It was honestly one of the most incredible cinema experiences I think I’ve ever had. Every single aspect contributed to the vision, the parts completely in harmony to make one gigantic, epic whole in a way I’ve hardly ever seen. Top of the year for me. Just astounding.
Same here! it just...engulfs you. I came out of the theater GENUINELY feeling like our world is so boring and dark...the music still takes my breath away when I hear it. Theres very few theater experiences for me that GENUINELY make me forget about the real world outside the screen, Harry Potter and Narnia mostly. Dune is now on my top 5 movie list, pretty sure only thing thats gonna knock it down is part 2
I grew up with Lynch's Dune (probably would have watched it at least a couple of times a year), plus reading the (original) books a few times, and I'm actually jealous of you getting to watch this totally fresh. I LOVED this movie, it is a stageringly amazing piece of art, but after I couldn't help wishing that I could have watched it knowing nothing at all and if it would be more or less amazing because of it.
There were multiple times as well when I thought the same thing. Especially at 12:46 when Zendaya is smiling, then looks down at the battle. The contrast was chilling. Literally as I walked out of the theater, I opened my phone to see that Dune 2 was announced. This movie has the best cinematography and a score that couldn’t be more masterful!
That dual formation during the night battle by the atreides to preserve the high ground for as long as they could was so cool. Paul’s breakdown of how his vision sees a future he does not want “A WAR IN MY NAME” was intense. And Duncan Idaho’s goodbye to Paul with the salute and smile letting him know it’s going to be okay was bitter sweet. So many good characters, moments, sound design, visual design. All so good, I hope people watch the movie but also read the book because it won’t disappoint!
I think that the "unfilmable" thing gets somewhat misinterpreted. Dune *WAS* pretty much unfilmable back in the day, before it became accepted/possible to do over-length and multi-part films. Having to pack the whole book into 90 minutes, that's what made it impossible. People were right to call it "unfilmable" back then. But it is fully possible to film it when freed from those stringent time constraints - as was already proven by the SyFy Miniseries more than 20 years ago. It just wasn't until Lord of the Rings that movies became fully freed of those time constraints. So why then shouldn't it be filmable as a two-part over-length movie? Sure, it's a complex book full of inner dialogue and unspoken thoughts, and that's pretty difficult to film - but not impossible.
_Gone With The Wind_ (1939) 3 hours, 58 minutes: 8 Academy Awards, Highest Grossing Film of all time adjusted for inflation _The Ten Commandments_ (1956) 3 hours, 40 minutes: Academy Award, 8th highest grossing film of all time adjusted for inflation _The Seven Samurai_ (1957) 3 hours, 27 minutes: the film that created the "assembling the team" trope and has been endlessly referenced, remade, and reworked _Ben-Hur_ (1959) 3 hours, 32 minutes: 11 Academy Awards, highest grossing film of the year _Spartacus_ (1960) 3 hours, 17 minutes: 4 Academy Awards, highest grossing film of the year _Lawrence of Arabia_ (1962) 3 hours, 42 minutes: 7 Academy Awards, 2nd highest gross of the year behind _The Longest Day_ (2 hours, 58 minutes) _Cleopatra_ (1963) 3 hours, 53 minutes: 4 Academy Awards, highest grossing film of the year _It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World_ (1963) 3 hours, 30 minutes: academy Award, third highest grossing film of the year _Doctor Zhivago_ (1965) 3 hours, 17 minutes: 5 Academy Awards, 9th highest grossing film of all time adjusted for inflation _Fiddler on the Roof_ (1971) 3 hours, 1 minute: 3 Academy Awards, highest grossing film of the year _The Godfather_ (1972) 2 hours, 55 minutes: 3 Academy Awards, highest grossing film of the year _The Godfather Part 2_ (1974) 3 hours, 22 minutes: 6 Academy Awards _The Deer Hunter_ (1978) 3 hours, 3 minutes: 5 Academy Awards _Gandhi_ (1982) 3 hours, 21 minutes: 8 Academy Awards Fellowship: 2 hours, 58 minutes Two Towers: 2 hours, 59 minutes Return of the King: 3 hours 21 So, yeah... I mention the awards, box office, and other notes just to point out these weren't artsy films that no one paid attention to.
@@keith6706 All of that won't change the fact that David Lynch wanted to make a way longer movie, had more than enough filmed material to do so, and the studio just would not allow it. They feared that people would shy away from visiting an over-length movie, because it was not common/accepted enough - that's why they cut it down a lot, which did hurt the movie.
@@hooby_9066 didn’t know about the extra footage. As a kid at the time it was released, i seem to remember it being regarded as something of an oddity particularly since in the uk it was marketed as a Star Wars type kids film. And it had sting in which just made it all the more unappealing. I was probably too young to appreciate it.
Are you saying they didn't make 4-hour epics at biblical scale back in the day? Cause I've Ben Hur'ing a lot about the 10 Commandments being Gone With The Wind. If you watched them all back to back, it would be The Longest Day.
With the "I know your steps, Old Man" quote they do something VERY clever. It's at the same time a callback to earlier when they were sparing, but also communicating Paul's escalation of his powers, since he couldn't have heard or felt Gurney in all the flying and vibrating sand. It had to be his prophetic power. But this is where it blew my mind: this was the first time Paul Muad'dib met a Sandworm. And another name for the Sandworm is Old Man of the Desert.
Another cool detail! When Kynes gets stabbed, water spews from the wound in her stillsuit like blood would spill from the wound in her chest. It’s a really neat visual metaphor, and very appropriate for this world in which water may well be as precious as lifeblood itself.
The duel with Jamis is interesting because I read that Paul fights expecting to have to bypass shields. As well as having to kill a man. But because the freman dont have shields they just think he's being insulting.
nice observation. Along with that, he's been trained his whole life with shields so he's never actually gone for a kill move let alone land one. That's why the fremen think he's toying with Jamis. :)
@@joachimglinecki5470 yes I do. I was reading the original comment as though they read it online and not from the book. If they were commenting on having read the book I misinterpreted it.
When I saw this in the theatre, I suddenly saw this ritual being the new thing in football locker rooms before big games. The players kneeling, the assistant coaches applying eye black and the Head Coach throat singing at the front making odd gestures with his hands.
The biggest win for this movie for me is that it ended and I literally could have sat there for another 4 hours if Denis wanted me to. I looked at my wife and I was like "I can stay here if they wanna go ahead and show part 2, no problem".
I liked the scenery and the music. But I would prefer more storytelling than zoom ins. I wouldn't mind to have 4 hours of true storytelling, but I was really fed up on the Zendaya zoom. I count some 30 minutes of wasted screen time
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@@BBBrasil Wasted? Wasted for you maybe. I loved every second of this movie. And just like the OP I could have a 12 hours marathon of this.
“No inner monologue” I think there was, but it’s done in a cool way. I love how Jessica says the Litany Against Fear, and it’s portrayed as if Paul’s reciting it in its head. Just amazing editing all around.
and to me it kinda read as like...it could seem like its Faith (Jessica) vs Practicality (Paul trying to keep them alive) but if Paul's saying it in his head, he's taking the cue FROM her to do it, showing how at THAT moment she's still the one leading them AND how faith and reality are woven together instead of enemies. And then within 2 scenes, the setup for Paul real character journey happens which flips that dynamic...man, as a writer, I'm STUNNED by how much story was told in SECONDS, theres way more than just whats happening in front of you
That was my favourite scene. It conveyed so much. Her terror. His inner battle. That she's taught him all of the BG methods. It was a prime example of succinct writing.
in a way I think the lack of inner monologue made a few things hard to understand and easy to misinterpret. there is a a lot going on there that is on a different level that we can't just see, there is a lot of manipulation and misdirection in Jessica's and Paul's actions that you can't see unless you can see what is going on in their heads. if you read the book you can easily see that most of it right there, but its impossible to show their true intentions through the media of movies.
That line from Leto about "Youll still be all I ever needed you to be, my son" is delivered so well. I plan to tell each of my children this line as they grow old enough to understand it because I think its INCREDIBLY important as a parent to let your kids know thats all they need to be. Rest of this movie is a masterpiece. Im going through the audio-book and the number of lines pulled word for word is crazy. Denis did an incredible job. My buddy whos a diehard has filled me in on Dune Messiah which Denis said he wants to do. Lord help us all if he does because that book is MESSED UP.
Yes I’m sure your kids will love it. Until they see Dune. “Wow so they had to steal a line from a movie.” Do t steal lines come up with something original. Please.
I think this movie really gets one of the themes I saw in the novel, which plays with the idea of a Chosen One. Paul is incredibly skilled at so many things. He speaks multiple languages fluently, he fights better than many soldiers, he flies like the best pilots, etc. And to the common person he appears supernatural. But this movie does a good job of showing behind the scenes, how he's been intensely trained for his literal entire life by the most skilled instructors in an empire. When he's with Gurney his fighting isn't impressive, when he's with Jessica his influence and bearing are half-baked. It's only that so many lines of skill converge on him that makes him appear so exceptional. And this is the point! It's all about appearance. Behind the scenes he's been working incredibly hard his entire life, without knowing why other than he was told, but it's so others can use him as a Messiah. It's all a performance, the same way the Bene Gesserit intentionally laid the religious groundwork for their members should they need it. Paul is set up as a messiah, intended to be used as a pawn in others' games, and has to find a way out.
Growing up with books like this when “deconstruction “ became fashionable I was puzzled about what the fuss was about, isn’t it what all good books do before going on to the important stuff ?
Also don't forget centuries of genetic breeding. They were trying to breed the superbeing through genetics too. He's got perfect genes, which coupled with top notch training gives you a super human!
It's the illusion of a chosen one. Herbert wrote the book to warn about the attraction of charismatic leaders amongst other things. They might unite a couple dozen planets but at the cost of trillions of lives. And the inevitable rot and decay of their empire after they're gone. The Atriedes line only continues after Paul through his kids that are crazy magic space children possessed by ancient past lives that have a powerful familiarity to them. They can see all their past lives simultaneously, which is basically all of humanity because they possess both male and female lines. only exceptionally strong spirits can possess them. They're genetic monstrosities.
I love how much this movie explains in details - not by telling with narrator buzzing in the ear, but by showing. That's why pacing is simply PERFECT - not only gives us quite decent idea about the world, but also gives us time to appreciate the stunning beauty of every single scene. And the score by Zimmer is such a masterpiece - shows exactly why he literally IS the greatest movie music artist, and it's not about copying and pasting Gladiator and Pirates of the Caribbean themes...
@@_prototyp as visually stunning as this movie is, and i really can’t do justice just how beautiful it is, it was the sound design that really sold it for me. from the booming voice in the opening, the audio design of the voice, the sound effects during the fights and battle. all of it was absolutely amazing and really made me glad i paid extra for imax
LOL!! There BETTER be a part 2, because there was NO empire or emperor take down, no "marrying" Chani. DOOD! They left a BUNCH of the end of book content out of the film. I know that directors have a particular time for their movies, but they didn't need to draw out the one on one fight scene to the VERYYY end of the film. 😖😵💫
@@sunriseparrabellum5505 OH GOOD! Holy CRAP, I was very concerned when I rented Dune and it cut it off like a frustrating cliff hanger. Thank you, for that! ... eeh! I would normally agree, but they could have done away with a couple scenes to make room for the emperor confrontation scene, in my opinion.
I saw it twice in IMAX. It's an experience I'll never forget. The scene with all of the Sardaukar warriors in the rain was beyond epic. Not to mention the incredible score from Hans Zimmer.
Even in s regular theater, I was so entranced that I was shocked to realize 2.5 hours had passed, I absolutely loved this movie and had to see it in the theater twice
I was so pleased when I saw what Villeneuve did with the story. And not at all upset it's only part 1. This story is so big it will take a few movies. Like the Lord of the Rings.
This is a big part of why I liked the miniseries version so much, it gave the first three books a total of 12 hours, and still skimped on Dune Messiah quite a bit to get there. Which is ok, it's the odd book out being more Downton Abbey in Space instead of Game of Thrones in Space like the books on either side of it, it's shorter than the rest of the series and has a bunch of dangling plot threads that aren't there in Children of Dune like it was never quite finished. I really hope this series survives the mess at Warner Brothers, just to see how Momoa handles all the different ghola versions of Duncan.
@@Hevach I agree with what you say on the miniseries. Although it was impossible not to see Paul as the preacher from the very first minute. In the book, you have doubts for a little while...
Am I the only one who when hearing the simple delivery of the line "It's done" by the herald, had chills get sent down my spine. That simple change in tone and simple line combined with that malevolent look he gives the duke gives you so much insight as to what is about to happen. Incredible acting.
Arrakis is dangerous, clearly, and they communicate that very well throughout the movie, but I love how that's not all Arrakis is in the movie's context. I don't know what it is, but when it's a scene where the characters aren't in active danger, and it's just the sweeping shots of the horizon set to that wonderful, ethereal score... I feel like I understand what Chani means when she tells us how beautiful Arrakis is when the sun gets low.
What I love about Dune is that it was a movie made for theaters, not TV screens. And properly equipped theaters played the Voice in a way that made you feel it in your spine.
Something about the Atreides bagpipes that I love is that the song they play is constructed less like a patriotic anthem and more like a funeral dirge. Again, the music serves to remind us that House Atreides are marching to their deaths.
10:55 exception that proves the rule, I think. The fact they're having to use complicated, specialized, presumably expensive munitions rather than just chucking dynamite out the window suggests that the shields are actually quite effective, if not impenetrable.
Precisely. The only way through the shields is with something slow and steady. The shields deflect anything sudden, like a real life bullet wouldn't work, or dropping a bomb. The sudden impact would be deflected. The shields are basically ooblek.
Your comment works ironically really well because in the book when the shields get disabled the Harkonnens use ordinary artillery fire, which has been antiquated during the period the book is taking place, catching the Atreides defenders off guard. Without the shields, yeah, they would be basically "chucking dynamite out the window".
It also explains why everyone uses swords despite it being 8000 years in the future. If everyone you fight has a shield that effortlessly deflect high velocity impacts, then guns are pretty much useless.
Surprised CinemaWins didn't point out that there was always something to put into perspective just how large things were, like the wormholes they use to travel made HUGE ships look tiny, things like that were constantly throughout the movie which allowed us to imagine the enormous scale of everything.
8:08 This is explained in detail in the book, but Dennis did a great job hinting at it, too. When the Reverend Mother tells Jessica "A path has been laid", this is what they meant. The Missionaria Protectiva had a double-role on Arrakis. Not just to seed the usual prophesies that sisters can use as emergency boltholes if they need to flee, but to seed an extra layer of prophesy to prepare them for the Kwizatz Haderach.
I love how the motif of the bull as the symbol of house Atreides repeats every time we see house Atreides' ambiton. How when they're moving to Arrakis, and after the Harkonen's launch their attack, we see the matador diarama and the bull's head. They think that this ploy of taking Arrakis will give them power and glory, and that if they are fearless like their matador ancestors they'll be able to conquer it. But sometimes, you fight enemies a lot more deadly than an angry bull.
The motif of the bull's head isn't about Atreides ambition, but a reminder to never turn your back on your enemy even when you think they won't rise again, and that pride, as the saying goes, always comes before a fall. In the book, the story goes that Leto's father liked to take part in old fashioned Spanish Bullfights, including the garb of a matador.. He made the fatal error of turning his back on a bull he believed was down and dying: the beast got up, charged and gored him, killing him. Leto had his father's portrait in Matador's clothing hung in the dining hall of Castle Caladan, with the taxidermied head of the bull, with the old Duke's blood caked on its horns, hung opposite the picture for all to see. It was a visual reminder to all who went into the dining hall, of the results of pride and making assumptions about your enemies. The scene with the Herald of the Change does its best, but doesn't quite convey the idea that House Atreides had no choice but to go to Arrakis. It's made quite clear in the book that a refusal would have meant that the Atreides would have had to flee into exile, beyond the bounds of the known universe, and become a renegade house robbed of all power and wealth. Leto knew it was a trap, knew that the House was likely to perish there, even if how it occurreed was unknown. His honour and integrity wouldn't permit him to do anything but try to improve matters there before the fatal blow fell. In that way, his pride in his values was his greatest weakness whereas Jessica, being more practical, was prepared in the book to set up avenues of escape. In the end, the Bull and the Matador had more of a warning for the Harkonnens than the Atreides. Perhaps the Old Duke's death was a common story, perhaps not. But even with blatant reminders of it in front of their eyes, the Harkonnens still went and turned their back on an enemy they believed was defeated and dead without checking first that it was!
The bull's head is actually a symbol for the Harkonnen. I don't remember where I read this, but the word Harkonnen is actually derived from the Finnish word "Haerkonen (a with an umlaut, not 'ae', but I don't know how to type a umlaut)", which means "bull". So, the line "granfather fought bulls" could be read as a line showing how far back the Atreides-Harkonnen conflict goes.
@@kobaltapollodorus8922 As revealed in the prequels, the enmity goes all the way back to the Machine Crusade. === Spoiler === A Harkonnen in a position of high trust (admiral, etc) was a traitor or a coward at a key moment in the final battle against the machines, I do not recall which. It's been well over a decade since I read them, and they are really poorly written, so the only thing you need to remember is that ever since this event, which was centuries ago, not a single person on either side has been able to get over it. And none of the descendants of either house has ever been anything other than typecast by their ancestor's actions.
I was already enjoying this film from moment one, but the training scene sold me 100%. It's perfect "show, don't tell" storytelling. I didn't know jack-shit about Dune before this film, but that one scene taught me so much with minimal dialogue. By seeing Paul mess around with the shield before the fight (along with Gurney's "the slow blade penetrates the shield" line), we know how it works. By seeing how the shield works, we understand why melee combat is a necessity in this world. By seeing Paul's skill in combat, we understand how long he's been training, how much he has to grow, and we have an idea of what he will face on Arakkis.
I don't remember if they mention that in the movie, but melee is a necessity because lasers that are used to cut through the door create a frickin' atomic explosion when they hit the shields, and the expolsion actually occurs in two places -- where the shield is and where the weapon is, so both the attacker and the defending will surely die. Also the Fremen are this good in a fight partly because they can't rely on a shield, because, well, shields in the desert are generally a bad idea
So, why don't use a laser, for example, if a fast projectile would have been stopped? It is because the way lasers react to shields, in this universe. The movie doesn't tell you that. But that has a huge impact on how the war in Arrakis will be. It is key to the Atreides taking over towards he end. Read the book, you will enjoy the story even more.
Even in theatre the sounddesign was incredible. Hearing it again with headphones is no comparison. It was even more stunning in theatre, didnt even know theatres can be that loud and bassy
The shields, if I recall, being known in the books as Holtzmann shields, had set “penetration velocities”. Hence why the weapons slowed when approaching the ships, to bypass the shields. Personal shields had different penetration velocities.
They also explode with the force of a nuke if hit by a beam weapon... I didn't notice until the second viewing that you could see the shields on Idaho's thopter failing before the Harkonnen ship tried to lase it. That would have been bad for everyone.
@@wingedfish1175 that’s a great point, I may have missed that. Thanks for pointing it out. Funny enough I also thought about this after the movie - but I guess ships that are stationary on the ground are much easier targets for slow bombs than when in a dogfight.
@@bathvader yeah sorry if i came off a tad condescending but the guy (who's name escapes me annoyingly) has made it quite clear he's a massive dune fan
@@stephanevanoosthuyse6800 I basically meant that I assumed, you were joking. If yes, you almost "woooshed" me, if no, @Dustin was certainly referring to Part 2 of the Movie, not the video. :D
15:10 honestly, i never even realized how weird those looks would be in any other context. for me, everything was so captivating up to and beyond this moment that I just recognized it as the looks of people in shock.
Herbert actually based his description of Caladan off the PNW coastline around where he was born near Seattle, and the Endor scenes from Star Wars were also shot in the PNW. So good observation! I was curious where the Caladan scenes were filmed and it appears to be in Norway; so very similar to the PNW, very green with rocky coastlines.
Born in Tacoma, where there is Frank Herbert Park on Dune Peninsula. The site was a horrible industrial wasteland (copper smelter) for 100 years that was restored for open space and urban uses and offers the most sweeping views of Puget Sound.
I like that Oscar Isaac's Leto feels both like the kind of guy who would have a concubine but also the kind that would fall for her. It would be stunt casting but I would love to see Patrick Stewart as the Emperor. It would be appealing to see essentially a dark version of the roles he usually plays.
In 1984, Patrick Stewart was a relatively low profile stage and character actor. Well-respected in his field but not exactly a household name. Just like Gurney Halleck. Nowadays you'd be hard-pressed to find somebody that wouldn't at least say "hey, I've seen him in stuff!". Just like the Padishaw Emperor. It would be stunt casting, but right now I can't think of a single actor that could nail the part harder. If somebody else had been Gurney Halleck in 1984, Patrick Stewart would be the clear fan favorite for the Emperor today.
Have you seen Sir Patrick in "Green Room?" Amazing villain turn, but the movie is grim and brutal... It's on my list of "best movies I'll probably never watch again" lol
Man, this never occurred to me , but it's a great idea!! I've seen him in a bunch of stuff and I was lucky enough to see his one man show of A Christmas Carol years ago on my first trip to New York City. He was amazing. He'd be great in this role. Hopefully , someone in charge has thought of it.
This movie gave me major Fellowship of the Ring vibes, in terms of love, care and patience put into its production. Everyone always said we'd never get a book-to-movie adaptation as good as LOTR ever again, but maybe the Lord of the Rings is about to get some company at the top
I won't bother replying to all the comments about Middle Eastern representation. I didn't expand on it because I figured it was extremely self-evident. And no, it's not JUST because they're in a desert. Herbert (and now Denis) used explicitly middle eastern and Islamic imagery for the Fremen. The clothing, the sound of their language, they even form a Jihad. The entire story of Dune is about wealthy outsiders coming in to mine and steal their most precious resource. This isn't subtext. It's text. Anyone can play anyone, totally agree. But when there isn't a single culturally appropriate representation, you might have messed up. I legit said one line about it and still love the movie. Doesn't mean it isn't a problem. I mean, it's not like I invented this complaint, just give it a google. A lot of Middle Eastern people felt erased.
Thank you sm. Watching this as a Muslim I was super excited to see some middle eastern and Islamic representation and while I still liked it and felt a bit represented (The language and culture parallels are still very clear) I was just really sad that there wasn't a single arab or desi actor within the movie. I don't really blame anyone and such it's just a bit sad that I thought I'd finally get a cool representation in a big hollywood film and it didnt happen.
The saddest part is how racist people have become from trying to be as inclusive as possible, to the point where it is a problem that non-middle eastern people play middle eastern-ish folk, can't tell me the bearded dude you were simping for doesn't look middle eastern either. I don't give a fuck where they're from, they looked like they fit and that's all that should matter
@@Zuignap Ah yes, the "inclusivity is racist" take. Guess the rest of us should be happy that white people are playing people of color on the screen and should never hope to actually see people with other skin tones in movies. That would be racist... /s
5 minutes into this video, I went to amazon; rented the movie and watched it and it blew me away. Never read any of the books, I know every little of the lore behind Dune because I watched a singular video on it on UA-cam but I loved every second of it. It was just perfect. And I'm a huge sucker for great musical scores so everything was music to my ears. I loved it a lot.
The house-shaped tombs are an ancient Greek form of burial. As someone with Greek background, I really appreciated the shout-out. The inclusion of bagpipes was also a great touch since Greeks, like the Scots, are a highland people with a tradition of playing bagpipes. Caladan = Caledonia (Roman term for the highlands of Scotland), Atreides = Atreidai (decendents of Atreus, king of Mycenae)
The shields in the Dune universe are mostly useful because they prevent the enemy from using laser weapons. Because interaction between shield and laser cause a mutual literal nuking, the mere threat that your opponent is capable of fielding shields denies to all but the nutiest general deployment of their own laser arsenal...
@@djcochrane in the book Dr Yuhe also took down the shields. Maybe we are supposed to infer that in the movie or maybe that level of tech detail was unimportant to the structure of the movie.
i had the chance to see this in a dolby theater and it was probably the best cinema experience ive ever witnessed, the score and sound design was absolutely killer!!!
I unfortunately didn't. I did watch it on a pretty damn big TV with a subwoofer, though, which was probably the next best thing. But you can bet your ass I'm watching Part 2 in the cinema.
I've always been convinced that he's named Duncan Idaho as a big reminder that this isn't a different universe that it's ours just wayyy off in the future. Also I love that Duke Leto wanted to be a "pilot"
11:45 Leto being naked. They did this in a tasteful way, showing nothing graphic. Yet, this was completely true to the source material as well. That's one thing the creators of this movie has been doing, from what I have heard. ( I haven't had the opportunity to see it yet - Damn it!) They have worked VERY HARD to keep true to the original books for the movie & future ones as well. So, this is what you get. Awesomeness.
HAHAHAHAHA! The stillsuits are basically copies of the Lynch movie's stillsuits. They don't match the description in the novel AT ALL. If you want to see an accurate depiction of a stillsuit, go watch the TV miniseries. Liet-Kynes is a man, not a woman. What a pointless, ridiculous genderswap. Irulan narrates, because she is a historian. Chani is not. And please. There's a Bene Gesserit character who refers to Jessica as Leto's wife. THEY WERE NEVER MARRIED. She's his CONCUBINE.
@@nichoudha Yes, Leto says he should have married her. That doesn't negate the fact that one of the Bene Gesserit falsely stated that Jessica was Leto's wife. Whoever was in charge of continuity really screwed up that one.
@@Shan_Dalamani It could be a continuity error or merely a difference of perspective. A concubine was essentially a lesser wife, a means of securing an heir when an official marriage couldn't. Furthermore, Jessica is the de facto lady of the house. With no official wife, she has taken the role of Leto's wife, just without the official designation. The Bene Gesserit care far more about roles than about titles, what with their millenia long scheming. So to them, Jessica is Leto's wife. As for the other changes, it's an adaptation, and no adaptation translates the source material to a different medium with pinpoint accuracy. A lot of times, pragmatic decisions must be made. Irulan is all over the book, but in excerpts from a novel at the beginning of each chapter, which wouldn't make sense in a movie format. She only shows up in the last chapter, and so it makes more sense to put Chani in her place as both a woman closer to Paul and as someone who is actually in the film. The Sci-Fi series had to throw her in a bunch of scenes to set up her place in the plot, which was definitely not in the book. Liet-Kynes' gender never really had an impact on the plot, as most of the Fremen gender-heirarchy is shown after he's dead. So while making Liet-Kynes a woman may seem pointless, I find it does nothing to detract from the story aside from making readers of the book raise eyebrows. Ultimately, adaptations must pick and choose which parts they want to adhere to. I find that Denis's version strikes a very nice middle ground between the accuracy of the Sci-Fi version while still being a film with the grandeur that the Dune universe has. I also appreciate his attention to detail - while some story beats are changed around or outright changed, he has managed to capture the gist of Dune: a young boy becoming a god, and all the problems that will bring with it.
@@chronoxtreme2427 LOL. Irulan shows up in the chapter titles, explaining and foreshadowing. Through her writing, we get an idea of her inner character, who is both a historian (and this is not a "normal" activity for a royal princess, particularly the older one, as hers is the daughter whose marriage matters most) and her personality - she admires her father, wants his approval, but all he sees in her is her political value, to be used either to make an alliance or thwart an enemy. The miniseries version of Irulan was a much nicer one than in the novels. In an earlier version of Dune Messiah, FH had planned to kill her off. He changed his mind, though, and thank goodness. Julie Cox was fantastic in the part, and made me realize all these other things that would have been going on. The part that rang a bit weird was Irulan sending her servant to do what Lady Margot Fenring was supposed to do - seduce Feyd, get pregnant by him (conceive a daughter), and get as much information from him as possible. The genderswap is a mockery of so many things. First, I didn't realize that in the Duniverse, women can be fathers, as in actual biological fathers. (that was sarcasm, btw). So many people have insisted to me that there's no evidence anywhere that Chani and Liet-Kynes have any relationship at all, which is another way of saying, "I didn't read the book or pay attention to the Lynch movie and am just going to make shit up, like Villeveuve did." I would say that Chani introducing herself to Paul, saying, 'I am Chani, daughter of Liet" in both the novel and the Lynch movie, makes the relationship crystal-clear. And later it's also made clear that Liet-Kynes was Chani's FATHER. Jessica is not anyone's wife. She is Leto's Bound Concubine. That's like saying she is his Official Mistress (a title that used to be used in Tudor times and at the French court - the king had his wife, who was supposed to be his wife in every way - gracious hostess, enjoy the companionship of her ladies-in-waiting (who were often the sisters, cousins, or daughters of many of the king's councilors or other companions). But when the Queen was pregnant, the king would take a mistress... several in the case of Henry VIII. But if he'd taken an official mistress (something he suggested to Anne Boleyn at one point), it would not have been the same as marriage. She was there primarily for a sex partner and hostess when the Queen was occupied with being pregnant or if the Queen was otherwise not available. But it in no way equates to being a wife. Jessica was in this second category. The Bene Gesserit should have known that, so whoever was in charge of continuity really screwed up.
I loved this movie. Many rewatches later, I still do. But every time You make an Everything Great essay about something I love, I find new things to appreciate. You, my man, are also a master at your craft! You bring joy and light into my world!
Denis Villeneuve is on a fast track to becoming my favourite Director. Arrival, Blade Runner 2049 and Dune are all fantastic movies. Cant wait to see where he takes this in part 2
When I first heard the Atreides theme with the bagpipes, some months ago now, I wondered why Hans Zimmer had composed such a down beat piece of music for them. I finally got the chance to see the film last weekend, and when I did, I understood why. The Atreides theme speaks of dignity, integrity... and courage when faced with disaster. It told us, in music, that all that House Atreides was before it went to Dune was doomed to oblivion.
One of my favorite hidden details is during the Sandworm attack on the spice harvester, when Paul says "I can hear your footsteps old man" calling back to knowing gurney is behind him. At the same time, the translation for Shai Hulud is "Old man of the desert"
Back to rewatch this because I just rewatched the movie. I just realized that the start of the movie with Chani serves not only to give us a PoV that shows Frank Herbert's point better than the other versions, but it establishes the starting point of "the Hero's Journey" on Arrakis instead of Caladan. This means that when Paul goes on the "return" journey part of the journey, he ends up in Dune rather than at Caladan and it feels "right." One change Villeneuve made that I actually love is that he has Jessica and Paul talk about leaving the planet and going into exile, only to show how futile the idea was: Getting the Landsraad involved might have gotten everyone mad at the emperor, but it also might have just made them more afraid, leaving Paul and his mother with no way out. We see this when Kynes is killed by the Emperor (via the Sardaukar), implying he's not above ridding himself of inconvenient whistleblowers.
When you said “you could watch this without dialogue and still understand what you’re supposed to feel.” That’s when I realized that this movie (which I love) shares something important with another movie I love….Fury Road. You could watch that movie with no dialogue and still understand what’s happening because the directing and camera work is deliberate and purposeful. Dune blew me away, seeing it in 4K laser projection and ATMOS really just made me appreciate how some movies deserve the big treatment…this being one of them.
The moment I fully fell in love with this movie was when we first see the Heighliner, I thought "That is a big ship", then you see how big the ship that came from the heighliner was and I was at a loss for words. This captured the book so perfectly, and you kind of missed a win for Jessica's face at the end of the movie. You see a look of almost fear in her eyes as she realizes what Paul intends to do.
This casting across the board is just perfection. I for one didn’t read books till after I had seen this. Feel sad I’ve missed out on such awesome reads but I digress. Leto, Gurney, Paul, Jessica, and Stillgar. Not to mention the Baron.. chills every time I see Stellen float in the suspender chair, “…MY DUNE.”
While the video is as well-made and informative as always, I have a one pet peeve: why oh why did you leave uncommented the scene of Bene Gesserit landing on Caladan? When I watched the movie, it was THE moment for me (naturally, later Denis managed to top it, the madlad, but still) when it really hit all. The. Notes. The Sisterhood's ship landing in the dark and fog, with only lights visible as if it was an old-timey aliens movie, the whispered chanting, Jessica on her knees, the robes billowing in the wind... It was the moment that made me understand why everybody calls Bene Gesserit sisters "witches".
To be honest, I always figured that it was a slur or insult. The Harkonnens could never manipulate them, the Emperor could never control them, and the Atreides could never gain their loyalty. They were bound to get a derogatory slur at some point
As someone who adores the book, this movie hit everything perfectly for me. I'm at a loss for words at how cinematic it was, and how well Denis gets Herbert's story. Denis' vision for how the book should be interpreted matched my own vision and I can't think of many other films based on books that do that for me.
i immediately fell in love with this movie during the spice harvester scene. i want to think that the quote "i recognize your footsteps, old man" is not only a call back to an earlier scene but a potential vision of the future when Gurney and Paul reunite.
When I was 14 my dad bought me original versions of the dune trilogy and I sped through them, and when we saw this movie four years later we were both so happy, it felt like an almost perfect adaptation of the book with stellar sound design and cinematography, can't wait for part 2.
To me the red and blue of the shields seems clearly inspired by tropes from modern video games and it just goes to show how far afield Villeneuve was looking for inspiration and how broad minded he is to see something like that work elsewhere and bring it into film or to use people with the outside experiences that led to that design choice, it makes it so clear to follow the action from any perspective and is just a great design choice.
I love when Duncan screams after pulling the sword out of him self. Could have stabbed them in the back, but that would be dishonorable, so he warns then he‘s still alive before fighting.
Him screaming and drawing their attention is also what makes them stop cutting through the door, allowing Paul and Jessica to flee without getting sliced up by the breaching laser.
When it comes to Jessica and Paul, I feel like he was more so realizing who his mother is with his glance, and she was sitting in complete fear of his power and figuring out did she actually create god
I agree with you on the looks between them. They recognize each other as adult people not mother and son. But she sees him as not god, but a poweul being that neither she or the Bene Geserit can control. The whole breeding program Paul comes from to produce him is designed to produce a puppet for them to use. Book spoiler, they "imprint" a young male through sex to be able to control him at a later time.
I like to think that "I recognise your footsteps old man" has a duel meaning, the second referring to the approach of Shai-Hulud known as the "Old Man of the Desert". Paul recognises it from his prescience even if he's not fully aware of it during his first spice trip.
I first watched it on HBO Max. Then I begged my spouse to see it in IMAX. Oh my goodness we were blown away, even though both of us read the book multiple times and saw it at home first. It was a cinematic experience.
I like how, when making the point about goofy names, you chose "Kwisatz Haderach" as an example. It's pretty much directly lifted from Hebrew: קְפִיצַת הַדֶּרֶךְ (K'fitzat ha-Derekh)
When I went to the theatre, I initially wanted to watch Venom 2 (I never heard of Dune until then). I changed my mind based on iMDB scores just a couple of hours before the movie started, and what a great decision it was. D U N E is definitely the best movie of 2021.
Venom 2 was entertaining but not exactly art. That's fine, I thought it was worth the price of admission, but DUNE stuck with me on a deep level and was worth it tenfold
One thing occurred to me after having seen part 2 twice (so far). Since this movie is the first half of a larger narrative, there is a _lot_ of exposition. Many seeds are planted and very few actually come to fruition. We get the setup (House Atreides moving to Arrakis), the Harkonnen attack, and the fight with Jamis; other than that it's mostly world-building. (Honest Trailers had a fantastic joke about how the Dune universe is so complicated, even the characters have to watch UA-cam videos about it!) I think that's one reason it's such a gorgeous and attention-grabbing film: Villeneuve and his team are absolute masters at world-building. The LotR-worthy level of detail, the shots, the sets, the costumes, the score, the sound design, the pacing, they're all impeccable. Making all the threads come together in part 2 is the much greater challenge! Can't wait to hear your take on part 2.
I saw this movie in theatre in IMAX and it was unbelievable. BTW, some of the 'strange made up' words in the book/movie has real meaning in real life. For example, 'Qwitac haderech' is taken from Hebrew and it literally means the big leap or maybe a leap of faith. Other invented words also derived from Hebrew or Arabic.
This made me aware of how many call backs to his predictions there is in the second movie! “I recognize your footsteps old man” he captures the confusion of being unable to tell the present from the future so well!
Gurney halleck's singing scene was filmed actually, in fact, a lot of things were filmed but later cut because of time. Saddest part is the fact that dennis doesn't do director's cut :( we'll have to hope that he changes his mind about this one, extra scenes on blurays, or wait like 10 years and watch the 10 year anniversary version or smth 😭
I love this movie. cannot wait for the next part. I also would love to see CinemaWins cover Master and Commander: the far side of the world (2003) starring Russell Crowe and Paul Bettany. I feel like it's one that you would fall in love with instantly
Fun fact if anyone's curious about it, the house Atriedes bagpipes when they land are actually recorded by an insane musical genius called Guthrie Govan with an ELECTRIC GUITAR
Finally! I went to see this movie with my girlfriend and she said it was bland and boring and nobody has ever appreciated this movie as much as I have since then. It's one of my favorite movies of all time and to hear someone actually care about it in detail is great
I always feel that it's a matter of expectations. Most major films are bops when this film is a vibe. You need to wanna vibe. Like it would be jarring rolling up to the club on a Friday night and instead of a club bangers, it's all Toni Braxton, All-4-one, and Whitney Houston. Still great artists, but you're gonna be put off.
So I’ve been looking forward to this movie since I read the book when I was in high school. I was getting incredibly excited leading up to this movie because I believed that this was going to be one of the defining films of a generation. All indications were that Villeneuve and co were about to drop a masterpiece on the world. So I was incredibly excited going into it. That said, the moment in the film which absolutely sold me on it was Paul’s vision in the tent. It really showed that Villeneuve gets where the story is going, that it’s not about a hero triumphing over evil and living happily ever after, but rather that it’s a tragedy. And it also served to greatly humanize Paul and Jessica when they had a tendency, in my opinion, to be very dull and robotic in the book. A friend of mine said, that Herbert’s characters are vehicles to further his world building, and I have to say, it is a valid point. But this scene literally had me crying in the theater because I know where it goes. You can see that Paul doesn’t want to become what he sees he is going to become, but he doesn’t know how to stop it…
As someone who read the first few books, when I first saw this in the theater and the intro went from Chani saying "who will our next oppressors be" to Paul after the title I knew Denis was cooking.
Duncan 's salute before engaging in sparring or battle, which Paul also does, is the informal way to bow in for Filipino Martial Arts/Eskrima-Kali-Arnis. E-K-A is the real-life martial arts system that they used for all of the fight choreography
The thing that gets me is that when Paul is out of the thopter during the sand worm attack on the mining vehicle, he says, “I hear your footsteps, old man.” We’re supposed to think he’s talking to Gurney, but Shai-Hulud, the Fremen word for the sand worm, means ‘Old man of the desert.’
Paul wasn’t talking to Gurney. He was talking to the sand worm.
Denis Villeneuve gets it.
Yes this! It’s my favorite line in the movie for this reason. Really sticks with you if you get its layered meaning.
It felt odd adressing that line at guerney, now i know why.
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It was also a callback to their training session earlier in the movie, so it's a good misdirect.
Yep. A two for one that only book readers would have picked that up :)
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And having watched the whole video, my point was brought up, rendering my comment moot! This is why I love this channel!
Interesting fact: the March that the atreides bagpipes play when arriving at Arrakis is written as a traditional funeral march rather than a military style march, Hans Zimmer literally told us that marching off the ships into the city was the action of House Atreides marching to their deaths
no wonder it sound weird as a military/noble house theme
Never picked up on that, thanks. Now I've got to watch it again to look for that
That really explains why it sounds so eerie in the beginning, but massive props to Zimmer for still making it sound noble and heroic, very appropriate for the Atreides
@@void-creature agreed, especially since Atreides are fiercely committed to answering every call, anyone could be a call to their deaths and eradication
Fun fact: the bagpipe sounds that you hear are actually an electric guitar, played by none other than Guthrie Govan.
I don’t know why, but Leto’s line “you’ll still be the only thing I ever needed you to be, my son” always puts a lump in my throat
So many movie/TV versions minimize the loving father aspect of Duke Leto the Just.... He went to phenomenal lenghts to make sure his son was prepared in every single way, to survive and rule. He also chose a non-political mate... And he cared about his people..
Its such a wonderful touch to drive home the point that while Leto might not be powerful, seen as an 'animal' by Bene Gesserits, and doomed to fail, he is still very sympathetic, not just honourable, but loving, even to his downfall. Also any son probably gets emotional watching this, reminds me of The Last Crusade, fantastic writing, so simple yet effective and sold fantastically by Oscar.
Absolutely great line, I also think about that a lot
A healthy father-son relationship
Surprisingly rare nowadays, especially in cinema
The movie was my first experience with Dune and the way it was going I was very much expecting Leto to be a rigourous upper class father with lofty expectations and little love in his heart, so it was welcome to see him show genuine care for his son
I think one of the things that struck me is how Rebecca Ferguson managed to sell me on the worries of a mother vs. the serenity and control of a bene gesserit. She's POWERFUL, often scary, but her breakdown when she is ORDERED to leave the room where she might return to find her son dead on the floor with her powerless to stop it... pure horror, played with chilling realism... and yet her vulnerability is never at the cost of Lady Jessica's strength and dignity.
Ikr
Wonderful balance of her conflicting emotions and allegiances
And yet some idiotic people think she was a woos that spent too much time crying
@@A-G-A-G Well, it's partly from the book, where she was almost always in absolutely iron-clad control on the outside, even if internally she was on the verge of a breakdown. That's part of what being Bene Gesserit is. But that's hard to communicate in a visual medium, an actor retaining a stoic exterior while broadcasting inner turmoil to the audience (which isn't to say it can't be done, Soldier with Kurt Russel is an excellent example). Compare Francesca Annis in Lynch's version, who mostly maintained that stoic control (a few scenes aside), but was very good at displaying inner conflict. Not saying that's superior, just that some book fans might find this interpretation of Jessica very different from what the book described. Which, again, I'm not saying is bad. This interpretation has grown on me and I think it works well enough for the character that it's fine, but those who have read the books (or decide to read them after seeing this) can see a different take on conveying the same information to the audience.
yes totally agree. She had the best acting performance in the film. And to think people were upset about her casting...
Also the best Jessica we've seen, Lynch's Jessica was all over the place breaking down, when she should have been strong, and vise versa. What I wish was in the movie, was Duncan and Jessica's fight when he got drunk and accused her of being a spy, awesome character development for both and comes back in the sequel books.
I like that she has the power of the voice, but doesn't abuse it. She could have married Leto by saying PUT A RING ON IT! 😉
Never read the books, never watched the old movie, went into this completely blind only know it’s a giant desert planet with sand worms. And I plan on going into the next movie just as blind. And I am loving this movie so much!!!!
Same. I knew nothing about this movie or the books, outside of that they exist. Went to see it in theatres just because I heard it was good, and wow, what a great movie!
Same here man.
I fucking jumped out my seat when they first used “the voice”
I've watched the 1984 movie and the 2000s miniseries.
And I've played a lot of the games.
Any amount of Dune content I can consume is good.
Same
That's really cool....However, once the films are done, you should go back and read the books to experience Herbert's vision too. You won't regret it. Some of the best written books ever made.
"When a movie makes it big, people start reading, so it's a net win." Truer words, my friend. And what a story to read for the first time.
yes. i'm guilty of reading after watching the film twice LOL it's so much more than what I was expecting
@@21jd_ I did that when the first movie came out. In some ways it was a disappointment, because the film differs from the book in several important aspects and it is just too short for all of the book. But the book tells so much more.
@@reinhard8053 yeah that's kinda what I meant - the movie was already a lot at first because I didn't know Dune at all. but when I read the book it turned out to be a way more complex world than what they could condense into a movie. also this movie covers the first half of the book, the rest will be in part 2 which comes out late this year i think
@@21jd_ With first movie I thought about the David Lynch film.
I originally got a copy of Dune a few months before the movie came out, but at the time I couldn't get into it. This past october, I decided to give it another chance on a whim and I've been hooked on the books since. I've just started Heretics, it's such a good series and I'm glad I actually gave it a shot.
I interpreted those “thirsty” looks as, “We came from royalty and were getting naked on a rock in the desert, my mother is pregnant and I don’t know how to keep her alive, we have no supplies or help.. this may be one of the last times I see my mother before we wrap up and head into danger.” And “I saw this coming and I still can’t believe it’s happening. I’m pregnant and don’t know how I’ll survive this and keep my promise and keep my son alive. He’s grown so much but he’s still growing and changing and I cannot afford to leave him on his own. My baby boy is all grown up and he has no choice but to become a warrior, a leader, and a target, like his father.”
To me it was basically both of them considering taking a moment to talk and discuss things but both deciding they don’t have time for it and just getting on with their mission.
It’s a sad scene because it’s the next stage of the death of Paul. The first was the dart, the second was the crawl out of the sand and looking at his namesake and the third was this… him deciding not to comfort his pregnant mother, and to just become something new… a pseudo Fremen warrior and embrace those horrifying visions and take revenge. The final was his fight with Jamis..
Basically Jessica knew her son was going to live, but also die. In order to keep her promise to Leto, she would also have to break it. Paul would physically survive, but Paul Atreides would die, symbolically and realistically he’s gone.. Letos son is going to die, and become something new, something different and she knows it.
On that rock, in the burning sun, she knew she was looking at her son for the last time as he is… he would never be the same after he put that suit on.
For Paul, he knew he had to keep his mother safe and knew he was making a huge choice by putting on that suit and choosing to survive and fight, and he understood that she needs to be protected and survive because she is the last thing he has and the last reminder of his father lives inside her.
It’s a nice moment for me.. sad, but nice. Two people who love each other but know that love is a weakness right now.. affection and softness will get them killed on this planet. So just a few glances and a mutual understanding is all they get.
Beautiful comment. It also reveals how primed we are to perceive 'romantic /thirsty' elements. We never really get a mother/ son story in epics, so that confused it too.
I am glad I miss the reflex to think of something as "thirsty". Guess when you've had your fair share of problems, you start to realize how others share similar responses to worry, fear and the need to keep going.
Sweet home arrakis?
@@Dilmahkana I swear the only people who see that as a sexual thing between Mother and Son must just consume way too much pornography.
yeah sure, but... Couldn't those looks have been given when they WEREN'T undressing and glancing over their shoulders at each other, looking awfully dang shy about their muscles?
I was hooked the moment that opening narration just came booming out of the speakers in the cinema, i didn't hear, i FELT IT!!
As someone who watched it in IMAX it was amazing, I was completely immersed and it was an amazing experience. Leaving the cinema it felt like I was returning to our world from truly being inside the story, it felt amazing.
The pinging of the sand and metal against the thopter in the sandstorm was amazing.
It was an eargasm
Same. This was a whole ass experience in the theater.
I know, I had to wear earplugs. Not even joking. I really had to.
Something else I really love about this movie is how the stalwart, warrior-culture Atreides in no way stifles Paul for his little moments of physical intimacy with his friends. He bounds over excited to them and gives them hugs and that's just normal. It's such a small detail that goes (at least for me) SO far in really showing you how this house operates.
Watch the Lord of the rings shit is very huggy its awesome
@@taylorward7576 Despite their differing views on religion, I think Dune is the Sci-Fi equivalent of Lord of the Rings.
@@FallenOne669 I think the tolkien of sci-fi is more Isaac Asimov... but Frank Herbert also did alot for sci-fi.
"I recognise your footsteps old man."
Paul is talking about the sounds of the approaching worm, the old man of the desert. But it is Guerney walking up behind him, so it has the double meaning that Dune is famous for.
also maybe him having a vision of meeting him in the future because of where he meets him again
@@coolwinterstorm5803 And since all humans age, Paul's own future -- when he becomes the old man of the desert. AT least triple, quadruple if you include Paul becoming an actual older human.
Meh. Nothings point at that in the movie, so... proudly displaying that you can read book, and then talk about them in comments to make you look smart is... not a win.
Also that jump cut, both illustrating Paul's disorientation and implying his precognition. *chefs kiss*
So, worm is old is it?
A detail I realized after re-watching it several times (and it's a win in my book) is that Duke Leto confesses to Paul that he wanted to be a pilot, and he is actually the first to spot the wormsigns... So yeah it makes sense, the Duke was Pilot Material! Great eyesight.
that, and also he plays Poe in the star wars sequels, the kind of "best pilot" from that trilogy.
@@jacobmeyer3599 actually for some reason they made rey the better pilot in the 3rd movie for no reason, probably because the new trilogy sucks ass.
@@joshuaward6480 ngl haven't even seen the 3rd all the way through, I couldn't make it past like the half hour mark before wanting to die
I love the things that were added (and subtracted) from the book by the director. This is one of the “adds.”
@@jacobmeyer3599 true. Also in the books, the Atreides are often known as one of the only families good at piloting; even better than many pilots.
Duuuuuude how did you not win the scene of Paul saying to the reverend mother "you dismiss my mother in her own house?" followed by the POV of the voice making it feel as involuntary as it is.
“Your mother bade you, Obey me”
"This Herbert guy must've been a Star Wars fan!" Every Dune fan just took 10 psychic damage from this quip.
😂
Fuckin’ A, bubba!
@t b Yes, OP is joking too
@pyropulse ummm, its sarcasm ypu do get that??
Kull wahad
I absolutely LOVED the visions of Jamis being his friend and mentor. It perfectly illustrates the imperfectness of Paul's prescience. And also makes it more plausible when he says " I was a friend of Jamis."
When you look at it, Paul got accepted by the Fremens after defeating Jamis... So, the visions were accurate in a way...
Paul's prescience gave him not only the ability to see the future but to see many potential futures.
When does he say “I was a friend of Janis”?
@@pluto5067 in the book you didn't read.
That’s why Dune is great. It’s idea of prescience is more grounded. Even when a man turns into a god his humanity is his limitation, not his powers
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The coolest part for me in that scene is the knowledge that the sand worm we are looking at is a small one. The one that took out the crawler was way bigger. And in the deep desert, where none but the fremen dare to travel, there are some even bigger than that.
The longest recorded being 450m long. For those who pay attention, that's longer than a Nimitz class aircraft carrier. Longer worms are suspected in the polar regions.
@@BlackEpyon jeezz, isn't that almost half a km? and these thing basically just free roaming the planet? how the heck did anything survive and how did such enormous entities came to be? from what I know, they can also predict the future?
@@iepvienredstoneHuy007 I don't know anything about the earlier worms predicting the future, but the worms that came after Leto II's death carried "pearls of his awareness" and had some limited ability to somehow know where to be in the right place at the right time.
@@BlackEpyon I thought the worms avoided the poles?
@@wingedfish1175 The caps, maybe, but I was referring to the arctic circle.
As a total Dune novice (except for knowing the McElroys love it), there were moments during this movie when I actually thought “I can’t believe what I’m watching, I live in a time when films like THIS exist.” It was honestly one of the most incredible cinema experiences I think I’ve ever had. Every single aspect contributed to the vision, the parts completely in harmony to make one gigantic, epic whole in a way I’ve hardly ever seen. Top of the year for me. Just astounding.
Same here! it just...engulfs you. I came out of the theater GENUINELY feeling like our world is so boring and dark...the music still takes my breath away when I hear it. Theres very few theater experiences for me that GENUINELY make me forget about the real world outside the screen, Harry Potter and Narnia mostly. Dune is now on my top 5 movie list, pretty sure only thing thats gonna knock it down is part 2
Yeah, this genuinely felt like we were witnessing the beginning of a new LoTR calibre of film.
I grew up with Lynch's Dune (probably would have watched it at least a couple of times a year), plus reading the (original) books a few times, and I'm actually jealous of you getting to watch this totally fresh. I LOVED this movie, it is a stageringly amazing piece of art, but after I couldn't help wishing that I could have watched it knowing nothing at all and if it would be more or less amazing because of it.
And Dennis is not nominated for an Oscar!!!!!!!!!!
There were multiple times as well when I thought the same thing. Especially at 12:46 when Zendaya is smiling, then looks down at the battle. The contrast was chilling. Literally as I walked out of the theater, I opened my phone to see that Dune 2 was announced. This movie has the best cinematography and a score that couldn’t be more masterful!
That dual formation during the night battle by the atreides to preserve the high ground for as long as they could was so cool. Paul’s breakdown of how his vision sees a future he does not want “A WAR IN MY NAME” was intense. And Duncan Idaho’s goodbye to Paul with the salute and smile letting him know it’s going to be okay was bitter sweet. So many good characters, moments, sound design, visual design. All so good, I hope people watch the movie but also read the book because it won’t disappoint!
I think that the "unfilmable" thing gets somewhat misinterpreted.
Dune *WAS* pretty much unfilmable back in the day, before it became accepted/possible to do over-length and multi-part films. Having to pack the whole book into 90 minutes, that's what made it impossible. People were right to call it "unfilmable" back then.
But it is fully possible to film it when freed from those stringent time constraints - as was already proven by the SyFy Miniseries more than 20 years ago. It just wasn't until Lord of the Rings that movies became fully freed of those time constraints.
So why then shouldn't it be filmable as a two-part over-length movie? Sure, it's a complex book full of inner dialogue and unspoken thoughts, and that's pretty difficult to film - but not impossible.
_Gone With The Wind_ (1939) 3 hours, 58 minutes: 8 Academy Awards, Highest Grossing Film of all time adjusted for inflation
_The Ten Commandments_ (1956) 3 hours, 40 minutes: Academy Award, 8th highest grossing film of all time adjusted for inflation
_The Seven Samurai_ (1957) 3 hours, 27 minutes: the film that created the "assembling the team" trope and has been endlessly referenced, remade, and reworked
_Ben-Hur_ (1959) 3 hours, 32 minutes: 11 Academy Awards, highest grossing film of the year
_Spartacus_ (1960) 3 hours, 17 minutes: 4 Academy Awards, highest grossing film of the year
_Lawrence of Arabia_ (1962) 3 hours, 42 minutes: 7 Academy Awards, 2nd highest gross of the year behind _The Longest Day_ (2 hours, 58 minutes)
_Cleopatra_ (1963) 3 hours, 53 minutes: 4 Academy Awards, highest grossing film of the year
_It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World_ (1963) 3 hours, 30 minutes: academy Award, third highest grossing film of the year
_Doctor Zhivago_ (1965) 3 hours, 17 minutes: 5 Academy Awards, 9th highest grossing film of all time adjusted for inflation
_Fiddler on the Roof_ (1971) 3 hours, 1 minute: 3 Academy Awards, highest grossing film of the year
_The Godfather_ (1972) 2 hours, 55 minutes: 3 Academy Awards, highest grossing film of the year
_The Godfather Part 2_ (1974) 3 hours, 22 minutes: 6 Academy Awards
_The Deer Hunter_ (1978) 3 hours, 3 minutes: 5 Academy Awards
_Gandhi_ (1982) 3 hours, 21 minutes: 8 Academy Awards
Fellowship: 2 hours, 58 minutes
Two Towers: 2 hours, 59 minutes
Return of the King: 3 hours 21
So, yeah...
I mention the awards, box office, and other notes just to point out these weren't artsy films that no one paid attention to.
@@keith6706 All of that won't change the fact that David Lynch wanted to make a way longer movie, had more than enough filmed material to do so, and the studio just would not allow it.
They feared that people would shy away from visiting an over-length movie, because it was not common/accepted enough - that's why they cut it down a lot, which did hurt the movie.
@@hooby_9066 didn’t know about the extra footage. As a kid at the time it was released, i seem to remember it being regarded as something of an oddity particularly since in the uk it was marketed as a Star Wars type kids film. And it had sting in which just made it all the more unappealing.
I was probably too young to appreciate it.
Yeah, I think it was more a tech issue than a time one. CG advancement and all that.
Are you saying they didn't make 4-hour epics at biblical scale back in the day? Cause I've Ben Hur'ing a lot about the 10 Commandments being Gone With The Wind. If you watched them all back to back, it would be The Longest Day.
With the "I know your steps, Old Man" quote they do something VERY clever. It's at the same time a callback to earlier when they were sparing, but also communicating Paul's escalation of his powers, since he couldn't have heard or felt Gurney in all the flying and vibrating sand. It had to be his prophetic power.
But this is where it blew my mind: this was the first time Paul Muad'dib met a Sandworm. And another name for the Sandworm is Old Man of the Desert.
Ooh, I didn't remember that from the book. That's awesome
lol. I just said the same thing above. I should've scrolled.
Another cool detail! When Kynes gets stabbed, water spews from the wound in her stillsuit like blood would spill from the wound in her chest. It’s a really neat visual metaphor, and very appropriate for this world in which water may well be as precious as lifeblood itself.
Water is life, without it, nothing living would exist.
i think its more that water spills out of her stillsuit as its being pierced
@@lookix154 That’s… what I said. Water spills out of her stillsuit and invokes the image of blood pouring from the stab wound.
@@a.morphous66 yea i kinda misread
@@lookix154 nah you didn't misread, he said water from the wound, which is wrong. You had a valid point.
I saw this in IMAX and the voice scenes literally shook the theater. I love it.
The duel with Jamis is interesting because I read that Paul fights expecting to have to bypass shields. As well as having to kill a man. But because the freman dont have shields they just think he's being insulting.
Nicely spotted. Shields attract sandworms, so Fremen don't use them.
nice observation. Along with that, he's been trained his whole life with shields so he's never actually gone for a kill move let alone land one. That's why the fremen think he's toying with Jamis. :)
@@charlesschneider7769 you know thats explained in the book
@@joachimglinecki5470 yes I do. I was reading the original comment as though they read it online and not from the book. If they were commenting on having read the book I misinterpreted it.
@@charlesschneider7769 ok
The 1-minute Sardaukar scene with the throat singing deserves 100 points by itself
Yes. Also.... Stronk 40K vibes from that scene, which I'm more than fine with.
I can't wait till they have an EDM event based on it, hahaha
When I saw this in the theatre, I suddenly saw this ritual being the new thing in football locker rooms before big games.
The players kneeling, the assistant coaches applying eye black and the Head Coach throat singing at the front making odd gestures with his hands.
@@Outland9000 Well, Dune is probably 40k:s largest source of inspiration
Watch the youtube video on how Hans Zimmer made the score.
It's not throat singing. That blew my mind!
“Military and religion. What a terrifying combination!”
Paul: write that down write that down
The biggest win for this movie for me is that it ended and I literally could have sat there for another 4 hours if Denis wanted me to. I looked at my wife and I was like "I can stay here if they wanna go ahead and show part 2, no problem".
Same, when the movie ended i almost cried bc its over, i really wanted more.
I liked the scenery and the music.
But I would prefer more storytelling than zoom ins.
I wouldn't mind to have 4 hours of true storytelling, but I was really fed up on the Zendaya zoom. I count some 30 minutes of wasted screen time
@@BBBrasil
Wasted? Wasted for you maybe. I loved every second of this movie. And just like the OP I could have a 12 hours marathon of this.
those 3 hours felt like 30 minutes
@@BBBrasil I don't know what movie you watched. Dune was damn near perfect. I could have sat there for another 3 hours, no problem.
“No inner monologue”
I think there was, but it’s done in a cool way. I love how Jessica says the Litany Against Fear, and it’s portrayed as if Paul’s reciting it in its head. Just amazing editing all around.
and to me it kinda read as like...it could seem like its Faith (Jessica) vs Practicality (Paul trying to keep them alive) but if Paul's saying it in his head, he's taking the cue FROM her to do it, showing how at THAT moment she's still the one leading them AND how faith and reality are woven together instead of enemies. And then within 2 scenes, the setup for Paul real character journey happens which flips that dynamic...man, as a writer, I'm STUNNED by how much story was told in SECONDS, theres way more than just whats happening in front of you
@@rainestar82 I LOVE your interpretation of this
I would never have thought of it this way otherwise
That was my favourite scene. It conveyed so much. Her terror. His inner battle. That she's taught him all of the BG methods. It was a prime example of succinct writing.
Well, he was reciting it in his head at the time. Jessica was standing outside and that's all that we know happened with her character in the novel.
in a way I think the lack of inner monologue made a few things hard to understand and easy to misinterpret. there is a a lot going on there that is on a different level that we can't just see, there is a lot of manipulation and misdirection in Jessica's and Paul's actions that you can't see unless you can see what is going on in their heads. if you read the book you can easily see that most of it right there, but its impossible to show their true intentions through the media of movies.
That “just like Christopher walkin taught us” line has aged superbly!
That line from Leto about "Youll still be all I ever needed you to be, my son" is delivered so well. I plan to tell each of my children this line as they grow old enough to understand it because I think its INCREDIBLY important as a parent to let your kids know thats all they need to be.
Rest of this movie is a masterpiece. Im going through the audio-book and the number of lines pulled word for word is crazy. Denis did an incredible job. My buddy whos a diehard has filled me in on Dune Messiah which Denis said he wants to do. Lord help us all if he does because that book is MESSED UP.
I almost cried at that line cause There was a time I wanted to read that very much, I love your idea your kids will be awesome
Yes I’m sure your kids will love it. Until they see Dune. “Wow so they had to steal a line from a movie.” Do t steal lines come up with something original. Please.
Dune Messiah needs to be combined with Children of Dune to tell a complete story. Would be great to have a miniseries along Villeneuve lines, however.
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I think this movie really gets one of the themes I saw in the novel, which plays with the idea of a Chosen One.
Paul is incredibly skilled at so many things. He speaks multiple languages fluently, he fights better than many soldiers, he flies like the best pilots, etc. And to the common person he appears supernatural. But this movie does a good job of showing behind the scenes, how he's been intensely trained for his literal entire life by the most skilled instructors in an empire. When he's with Gurney his fighting isn't impressive, when he's with Jessica his influence and bearing are half-baked. It's only that so many lines of skill converge on him that makes him appear so exceptional.
And this is the point! It's all about appearance. Behind the scenes he's been working incredibly hard his entire life, without knowing why other than he was told, but it's so others can use him as a Messiah. It's all a performance, the same way the Bene Gesserit intentionally laid the religious groundwork for their members should they need it.
Paul is set up as a messiah, intended to be used as a pawn in others' games, and has to find a way out.
Growing up with books like this when “deconstruction “ became fashionable I was puzzled about what the fuss was about, isn’t it what all good books do before going on to the important stuff ?
Also don't forget centuries of genetic breeding. They were trying to breed the superbeing through genetics too. He's got perfect genes, which coupled with top notch training gives you a super human!
And yet, he never does.
It's the illusion of a chosen one. Herbert wrote the book to warn about the attraction of charismatic leaders amongst other things. They might unite a couple dozen planets but at the cost of trillions of lives. And the inevitable rot and decay of their empire after they're gone. The Atriedes line only continues after Paul through his kids that are crazy magic space children possessed by ancient past lives that have a powerful familiarity to them. They can see all their past lives simultaneously, which is basically all of humanity because they possess both male and female lines. only exceptionally strong spirits can possess them. They're genetic monstrosities.
I love how much this movie explains in details - not by telling with narrator buzzing in the ear, but by showing. That's why pacing is simply PERFECT - not only gives us quite decent idea about the world, but also gives us time to appreciate the stunning beauty of every single scene. And the score by Zimmer is such a masterpiece - shows exactly why he literally IS the greatest movie music artist, and it's not about copying and pasting Gladiator and Pirates of the Caribbean themes...
Yeah that is also why its up there with Lotr for me. Its absolutely fantastic
seeing this in imax was a truly unforgettable experience, i can only hope they do a back to back showing for part 2
This movie was optically one of if not THE best movie i've ever seen. It was like i could feel the images with my whole body!
@@_prototyp as visually stunning as this movie is, and i really can’t do justice just how beautiful it is, it was the sound design that really sold it for me. from the booming voice in the opening, the audio design of the voice, the sound effects during the fights and battle. all of it was absolutely amazing and really made me glad i paid extra for imax
LOL!! There BETTER be a part 2, because there was NO empire or emperor take down, no "marrying" Chani. DOOD! They left a BUNCH of the end of book content out of the film. I know that directors have a particular time for their movies, but they didn't need to draw out the one on one fight scene to the VERYYY end of the film. 😖😵💫
@@LorenaTerryArtist part 2 has been confirmed. and i really appreciate the pacing, i’d rather have a movie take it’s time than be too rushed
@@sunriseparrabellum5505 OH GOOD! Holy CRAP, I was very concerned when I rented Dune and it cut it off like a frustrating cliff hanger. Thank you, for that! ... eeh! I would normally agree, but they could have done away with a couple scenes to make room for the emperor confrontation scene, in my opinion.
I saw it twice in IMAX. It's an experience I'll never forget. The scene with all of the Sardaukar warriors in the rain was beyond epic. Not to mention the incredible score from Hans Zimmer.
Even more than the visuals, the sounds are what make it an IMAX experience. You can feel it vibrate in your bones.
@@gdhuertas07 During the big attack scene. My theatre literally felt like it was shaking.
I'm so sad I didn't go to see it in IMAX...
Even in s regular theater, I was so entranced that I was shocked to realize 2.5 hours had passed, I absolutely loved this movie and had to see it in the theater twice
That scene also gave us "Sardaukar Dance Party" memes. We have much to be thankful for.
I was so pleased when I saw what Villeneuve did with the story. And not at all upset it's only part 1. This story is so big it will take a few movies. Like the Lord of the Rings.
This is a big part of why I liked the miniseries version so much, it gave the first three books a total of 12 hours, and still skimped on Dune Messiah quite a bit to get there. Which is ok, it's the odd book out being more Downton Abbey in Space instead of Game of Thrones in Space like the books on either side of it, it's shorter than the rest of the series and has a bunch of dangling plot threads that aren't there in Children of Dune like it was never quite finished.
I really hope this series survives the mess at Warner Brothers, just to see how Momoa handles all the different ghola versions of Duncan.
@@Hevach I agree with what you say on the miniseries. Although it was impossible not to see Paul as the preacher from the very first minute. In the book, you have doubts for a little while...
Fun fact: Timothée Chalamet can certainly pass for a teenage boy, but he is actually older than Kyle MacLachlan when he starred as Paul Atreides.
He has very low testosterone probably, small frame, feminine features.... tiny balls 😬
@@PandemoniumPirateRadio wtf you talking about lol?
@@PandemoniumPirateRadio Projecting?
@@PandemoniumPirateRadio ''hes handsome so he has small genitals'' cope and seethe
@@PandemoniumPirateRadio And probably gets laid any time he likes. Whether by males or females, whatever his preference might be.
Am I the only one who when hearing the simple delivery of the line "It's done" by the herald, had chills get sent down my spine. That simple change in tone and simple line combined with that malevolent look he gives the duke gives you so much insight as to what is about to happen. Incredible acting.
I believe that was the actor's first gig too. Great casting.
idk if it was malevolence or resigned pity, he has nothing to gain from it but hes know Leto's gonna lose everything.
@@user-hj9xv4gp5e yeah, I read it as pity. Both characters know what's about to happen.
Translation:
Leto: "I'm fucked."
Herald of change: "you're fucked."
Yeah, malevolent is not the right word. It is more like a pity look to a man who is going to a deadly trap
Arrakis is dangerous, clearly, and they communicate that very well throughout the movie, but I love how that's not all Arrakis is in the movie's context. I don't know what it is, but when it's a scene where the characters aren't in active danger, and it's just the sweeping shots of the horizon set to that wonderful, ethereal score... I feel like I understand what Chani means when she tells us how beautiful Arrakis is when the sun gets low.
What I love about Dune is that it was a movie made for theaters, not TV screens. And properly equipped theaters played the Voice in a way that made you feel it in your spine.
That cinema-awe is truly something special.
Yeah I watched it in theaters and then on HBO Max and it wasn't the same
I saw it in imax and when the bagpipes hit when they arrive I literally jumped haha
For me it was the gyrocopters dropping down to the harvester. Literally went "oh shit" when they retacted their wings mid air.
The bone chilling effect of the Voice is definitely a win.
Something about the Atreides bagpipes that I love is that the song they play is constructed less like a patriotic anthem and more like a funeral dirge. Again, the music serves to remind us that House Atreides are marching to their deaths.
The delivery of "A WAR IN MY NAME" was so chilling. Fantastic movie, can't wait for part 2.
10:55 exception that proves the rule, I think. The fact they're having to use complicated, specialized, presumably expensive munitions rather than just chucking dynamite out the window suggests that the shields are actually quite effective, if not impenetrable.
Precisely. The only way through the shields is with something slow and steady. The shields deflect anything sudden, like a real life bullet wouldn't work, or dropping a bomb. The sudden impact would be deflected. The shields are basically ooblek.
Your comment works ironically really well because in the book when the shields get disabled the Harkonnens use ordinary artillery fire, which has been antiquated during the period the book is taking place, catching the Atreides defenders off guard. Without the shields, yeah, they would be basically "chucking dynamite out the window".
Maybe the bombs are set on a timer so they slow down then sink through the shield
@@BLooDCoMPleX they sealed Atreides soldiers in the caves where they fled. They didn't destroy any shields.
It also explains why everyone uses swords despite it being 8000 years in the future. If everyone you fight has a shield that effortlessly deflect high velocity impacts, then guns are pretty much useless.
This movie was absolutely stunning in all of its visuals
The sound too. Can't insist too much on how great the sound design and the score all work together narratively.
Surprised CinemaWins didn't point out that there was always something to put into perspective just how large things were, like the wormholes they use to travel made HUGE ships look tiny, things like that were constantly throughout the movie which allowed us to imagine the enormous scale of everything.
Watching it on acid was amazing
8:08 This is explained in detail in the book, but Dennis did a great job hinting at it, too. When the Reverend Mother tells Jessica "A path has been laid", this is what they meant. The Missionaria Protectiva had a double-role on Arrakis. Not just to seed the usual prophesies that sisters can use as emergency boltholes if they need to flee, but to seed an extra layer of prophesy to prepare them for the Kwizatz Haderach.
It felt pretty obvious to me in the movie
I love how the motif of the bull as the symbol of house Atreides repeats every time we see house Atreides' ambiton. How when they're moving to Arrakis, and after the Harkonen's launch their attack, we see the matador diarama and the bull's head. They think that this ploy of taking Arrakis will give them power and glory, and that if they are fearless like their matador ancestors they'll be able to conquer it. But sometimes, you fight enemies a lot more deadly than an angry bull.
The motif of the bull's head isn't about Atreides ambition, but a reminder to never turn your back on your enemy even when you think they won't rise again, and that pride, as the saying goes, always comes before a fall.
In the book, the story goes that Leto's father liked to take part in old fashioned Spanish Bullfights, including the garb of a matador.. He made the fatal error of turning his back on a bull he believed was down and dying: the beast got up, charged and gored him, killing him. Leto had his father's portrait in Matador's clothing hung in the dining hall of Castle Caladan, with the taxidermied head of the bull, with the old Duke's blood caked on its horns, hung opposite the picture for all to see. It was a visual reminder to all who went into the dining hall, of the results of pride and making assumptions about your enemies.
The scene with the Herald of the Change does its best, but doesn't quite convey the idea that House Atreides had no choice but to go to Arrakis. It's made quite clear in the book that a refusal would have meant that the Atreides would have had to flee into exile, beyond the bounds of the known universe, and become a renegade house robbed of all power and wealth. Leto knew it was a trap, knew that the House was likely to perish there, even if how it occurreed was unknown. His honour and integrity wouldn't permit him to do anything but try to improve matters there before the fatal blow fell. In that way, his pride in his values was his greatest weakness whereas Jessica, being more practical, was prepared in the book to set up avenues of escape.
In the end, the Bull and the Matador had more of a warning for the Harkonnens than the Atreides. Perhaps the Old Duke's death was a common story, perhaps not. But even with blatant reminders of it in front of their eyes, the Harkonnens still went and turned their back on an enemy they believed was defeated and dead without checking first that it was!
The bull's head is actually a symbol for the Harkonnen. I don't remember where I read this, but the word Harkonnen is actually derived from the Finnish word "Haerkonen (a with an umlaut, not 'ae', but I don't know how to type a umlaut)", which means "bull".
So, the line "granfather fought bulls" could be read as a line showing how far back the Atreides-Harkonnen conflict goes.
@@kobaltapollodorus8922 As revealed in the prequels, the enmity goes all the way back to the Machine Crusade.
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A Harkonnen in a position of high trust (admiral, etc) was a traitor or a coward at a key moment in the final battle against the machines, I do not recall which. It's been well over a decade since I read them, and they are really poorly written, so the only thing you need to remember is that ever since this event, which was centuries ago, not a single person on either side has been able to get over it. And none of the descendants of either house has ever been anything other than typecast by their ancestor's actions.
@@amberscion1513 Frank's vision of the jihad was not a "pew pew terminators vs humans in a star wars type battle" but Brian went with that
I was already enjoying this film from moment one, but the training scene sold me 100%. It's perfect "show, don't tell" storytelling. I didn't know jack-shit about Dune before this film, but that one scene taught me so much with minimal dialogue. By seeing Paul mess around with the shield before the fight (along with Gurney's "the slow blade penetrates the shield" line), we know how it works. By seeing how the shield works, we understand why melee combat is a necessity in this world. By seeing Paul's skill in combat, we understand how long he's been training, how much he has to grow, and we have an idea of what he will face on Arakkis.
Every fight mattered. It wasn't merely an action figures mashup, there were reasons for each battle.
That scene is one of the most faithful to the book in the whole movie. Distilled a bit though.
@@moon-moth1 mediocre? I thought they were perfect? What more could they have added?
I don't remember if they mention that in the movie, but melee is a necessity because lasers that are used to cut through the door create a frickin' atomic explosion when they hit the shields, and the expolsion actually occurs in two places -- where the shield is and where the weapon is, so both the attacker and the defending will surely die. Also the Fremen are this good in a fight partly because they can't rely on a shield, because, well, shields in the desert are generally a bad idea
So, why don't use a laser, for example, if a fast projectile would have been stopped?
It is because the way lasers react to shields, in this universe. The movie doesn't tell you that.
But that has a huge impact on how the war in Arrakis will be. It is key to the Atreides taking over towards he end.
Read the book, you will enjoy the story even more.
Even in theatre the sounddesign was incredible. Hearing it again with headphones is no comparison. It was even more stunning in theatre, didnt even know theatres can be that loud and bassy
The shields, if I recall, being known in the books as Holtzmann shields, had set “penetration velocities”. Hence why the weapons slowed when approaching the ships, to bypass the shields. Personal shields had different penetration velocities.
Im very very very certain he knows this he was pointing out that if you can program a bomb to always pierce a shield then the shield is pointless
They also explode with the force of a nuke if hit by a beam weapon... I didn't notice until the second viewing that you could see the shields on Idaho's thopter failing before the Harkonnen ship tried to lase it. That would have been bad for everyone.
@@wingedfish1175 that’s a great point, I may have missed that. Thanks for pointing it out. Funny enough I also thought about this after the movie - but I guess ships that are stationary on the ground are much easier targets for slow bombs than when in a dogfight.
@@bathvader yeah sorry if i came off a tad condescending but the guy (who's name escapes me annoyingly) has made it quite clear he's a massive dune fan
@@wingedfish1175 no worries good sir, no offence taken! I appreciated the alternative viewpoint, actually.
My absolute favorite movie of 2021. Just a masterclass in directing, cinematography, and acting. I can not wait for Part 2 to come out!
My greatest life question is how people are always looking forward to part 2... 1 minute after this 22 minute video came out!
@@stephanevanoosthuyse6800 I assume, you are trying to wooosh us?
@@Ghargobyl I genuinly have absolutely no idea of what that means
@@stephanevanoosthuyse6800 I basically meant that I assumed, you were joking.
If yes, you almost "woooshed" me, if no, @Dustin was certainly referring to Part 2 of the Movie, not the video. :D
@@stephanevanoosthuyse6800 He’s talking about the movie genius
15:10 honestly, i never even realized how weird those looks would be in any other context. for me, everything was so captivating up to and beyond this moment that I just recognized it as the looks of people in shock.
Every time Josh Brolin talked, flashbacks of Thanos kept popping into my head, I'd call that a win for sure.
I agree
Goonies!
Even worse when you watch the dreaded Oldboy remake
It is… INEVITABLE
I was thinking cable with his intimidating demeanor
"This Herbert guy must have been a Star Wars fan" - that's some masterful trolling right there and I am here for it.
Herbert actually based his description of Caladan off the PNW coastline around where he was born near Seattle, and the Endor scenes from Star Wars were also shot in the PNW. So good observation! I was curious where the Caladan scenes were filmed and it appears to be in Norway; so very similar to the PNW, very green with rocky coastlines.
Born in Tacoma, where there is Frank Herbert Park on Dune Peninsula. The site was a horrible industrial wasteland (copper smelter) for 100 years that was restored for open space and urban uses and offers the most sweeping views of Puget Sound.
I like that Oscar Isaac's Leto feels both like the kind of guy who would have a concubine but also the kind that would fall for her.
It would be stunt casting but I would love to see Patrick Stewart as the Emperor. It would be appealing to see essentially a dark version of the roles he usually plays.
In 1984, Patrick Stewart was a relatively low profile stage and character actor. Well-respected in his field but not exactly a household name. Just like Gurney Halleck. Nowadays you'd be hard-pressed to find somebody that wouldn't at least say "hey, I've seen him in stuff!". Just like the Padishaw Emperor. It would be stunt casting, but right now I can't think of a single actor that could nail the part harder. If somebody else had been Gurney Halleck in 1984, Patrick Stewart would be the clear fan favorite for the Emperor today.
Then they need to do the stunt. Even with the connection to the 1984 film, there's a reason the man has had a career since the 1970s. He's that good.
Have you seen Sir Patrick in "Green Room?" Amazing villain turn, but the movie is grim and brutal... It's on my list of "best movies I'll probably never watch again" lol
Man, this never occurred to me , but it's a great idea!! I've seen him in a bunch of stuff and I was lucky enough to see his one man show of A Christmas Carol years ago on my first trip to New York City. He was amazing. He'd be great in this role. Hopefully , someone in charge has thought of it.
It would be an interesting callback, but the Emperor is described as looking about mid-forties despite his age
I loved the scale. That small blob leaving the huge Heighliner only to see it land as a giant orb on Caladan shows just how large those Liners are.
This movie gave me major Fellowship of the Ring vibes, in terms of love, care and patience put into its production. Everyone always said we'd never get a book-to-movie adaptation as good as LOTR ever again, but maybe the Lord of the Rings is about to get some company at the top
I won't bother replying to all the comments about Middle Eastern representation. I didn't expand on it because I figured it was extremely self-evident. And no, it's not JUST because they're in a desert. Herbert (and now Denis) used explicitly middle eastern and Islamic imagery for the Fremen. The clothing, the sound of their language, they even form a Jihad. The entire story of Dune is about wealthy outsiders coming in to mine and steal their most precious resource. This isn't subtext. It's text. Anyone can play anyone, totally agree. But when there isn't a single culturally appropriate representation, you might have messed up. I legit said one line about it and still love the movie. Doesn't mean it isn't a problem. I mean, it's not like I invented this complaint, just give it a google. A lot of Middle Eastern people felt erased.
Thank you sm. Watching this as a Muslim I was super excited to see some middle eastern and Islamic representation and while I still liked it and felt a bit represented (The language and culture parallels are still very clear) I was just really sad that there wasn't a single arab or desi actor within the movie. I don't really blame anyone and such it's just a bit sad that I thought I'd finally get a cool representation in a big hollywood film and it didnt happen.
Well part 2 should have a lot of fedaykin stuff, and quite big fremen characters beside stilgar. So there will actually be a lkt of opportunity
Will you EVER release the CinemaWins Snyder Cut vid❓
The saddest part is how racist people have become from trying to be as inclusive as possible, to the point where it is a problem that non-middle eastern people play middle eastern-ish folk, can't tell me the bearded dude you were simping for doesn't look middle eastern either. I don't give a fuck where they're from, they looked like they fit and that's all that should matter
@@Zuignap Ah yes, the "inclusivity is racist" take. Guess the rest of us should be happy that white people are playing people of color on the screen and should never hope to actually see people with other skin tones in movies. That would be racist... /s
5 minutes into this video, I went to amazon; rented the movie and watched it and it blew me away.
Never read any of the books, I know every little of the lore behind Dune because I watched a singular video on it on UA-cam but I loved every second of it. It was just perfect. And I'm a huge sucker for great musical scores so everything was music to my ears. I loved it a lot.
welcome to the Frank Herbert fandom newbie, It just gets better from here
read the book-- there's a lot more in there.
The house-shaped tombs are an ancient Greek form of burial. As someone with Greek background, I really appreciated the shout-out. The inclusion of bagpipes was also a great touch since Greeks, like the Scots, are a highland people with a tradition of playing bagpipes. Caladan = Caledonia (Roman term for the highlands of Scotland), Atreides = Atreidai (decendents of Atreus, king of Mycenae)
That's incredible, I didn't know that.
Learned another thing. I did keep hearing in my mind that Atreides = Atreus descendents, so thats pretty cool
The shields in the Dune universe are mostly useful because they prevent the enemy from using laser weapons. Because interaction between shield and laser cause a mutual literal nuking, the mere threat that your opponent is capable of fielding shields denies to all but the nutiest general deployment of their own laser arsenal...
Which shows how little the Baron cared about his forces during the trap. Good visual clue for those who know
Also due to the nature of the shields, you need to use guided weapons against them, which is more costly than throwing slugs at high speeds.
@@djcochrane in the book Dr Yuhe also took down the shields. Maybe we are supposed to infer that in the movie or maybe that level of tech detail was unimportant to the structure of the movie.
@@francesconicoletti2547 oh totally. It didn’t matter for the movie, but if you know, it gave the Baron an additional “OMG” dynamic.
So I don't understand why they don't use balls that pew lasers everywhere to drop among the enemy to instakill them all.
i had the chance to see this in a dolby theater and it was probably the best cinema experience ive ever witnessed, the score and sound design was absolutely killer!!!
I unfortunately didn't.
I did watch it on a pretty damn big TV with a subwoofer, though, which was probably the next best thing.
But you can bet your ass I'm watching Part 2 in the cinema.
I've always been convinced that he's named Duncan Idaho as a big reminder that this isn't a different universe that it's ours just wayyy off in the future. Also I love that Duke Leto wanted to be a "pilot"
11:45 Leto being naked. They did this in a tasteful way, showing nothing graphic. Yet, this was completely true to the source material as well. That's one thing the creators of this movie has been doing, from what I have heard. ( I haven't had the opportunity to see it yet - Damn it!) They have worked VERY HARD to keep true to the original books for the movie & future ones as well. So, this is what you get. Awesomeness.
HAHAHAHAHA!
The stillsuits are basically copies of the Lynch movie's stillsuits. They don't match the description in the novel AT ALL. If you want to see an accurate depiction of a stillsuit, go watch the TV miniseries.
Liet-Kynes is a man, not a woman. What a pointless, ridiculous genderswap.
Irulan narrates, because she is a historian. Chani is not.
And please. There's a Bene Gesserit character who refers to Jessica as Leto's wife. THEY WERE NEVER MARRIED. She's his CONCUBINE.
@@Shan_Dalamani I don't recall them being referred to as wife. Leto even says that he should have married her later on.
@@nichoudha Yes, Leto says he should have married her. That doesn't negate the fact that one of the Bene Gesserit falsely stated that Jessica was Leto's wife. Whoever was in charge of continuity really screwed up that one.
@@Shan_Dalamani It could be a continuity error or merely a difference of perspective. A concubine was essentially a lesser wife, a means of securing an heir when an official marriage couldn't. Furthermore, Jessica is the de facto lady of the house. With no official wife, she has taken the role of Leto's wife, just without the official designation. The Bene Gesserit care far more about roles than about titles, what with their millenia long scheming. So to them, Jessica is Leto's wife.
As for the other changes, it's an adaptation, and no adaptation translates the source material to a different medium with pinpoint accuracy. A lot of times, pragmatic decisions must be made. Irulan is all over the book, but in excerpts from a novel at the beginning of each chapter, which wouldn't make sense in a movie format. She only shows up in the last chapter, and so it makes more sense to put Chani in her place as both a woman closer to Paul and as someone who is actually in the film. The Sci-Fi series had to throw her in a bunch of scenes to set up her place in the plot, which was definitely not in the book. Liet-Kynes' gender never really had an impact on the plot, as most of the Fremen gender-heirarchy is shown after he's dead. So while making Liet-Kynes a woman may seem pointless, I find it does nothing to detract from the story aside from making readers of the book raise eyebrows.
Ultimately, adaptations must pick and choose which parts they want to adhere to. I find that Denis's version strikes a very nice middle ground between the accuracy of the Sci-Fi version while still being a film with the grandeur that the Dune universe has. I also appreciate his attention to detail - while some story beats are changed around or outright changed, he has managed to capture the gist of Dune: a young boy becoming a god, and all the problems that will bring with it.
@@chronoxtreme2427 LOL. Irulan shows up in the chapter titles, explaining and foreshadowing. Through her writing, we get an idea of her inner character, who is both a historian (and this is not a "normal" activity for a royal princess, particularly the older one, as hers is the daughter whose marriage matters most) and her personality - she admires her father, wants his approval, but all he sees in her is her political value, to be used either to make an alliance or thwart an enemy.
The miniseries version of Irulan was a much nicer one than in the novels. In an earlier version of Dune Messiah, FH had planned to kill her off. He changed his mind, though, and thank goodness. Julie Cox was fantastic in the part, and made me realize all these other things that would have been going on. The part that rang a bit weird was Irulan sending her servant to do what Lady Margot Fenring was supposed to do - seduce Feyd, get pregnant by him (conceive a daughter), and get as much information from him as possible.
The genderswap is a mockery of so many things. First, I didn't realize that in the Duniverse, women can be fathers, as in actual biological fathers. (that was sarcasm, btw). So many people have insisted to me that there's no evidence anywhere that Chani and Liet-Kynes have any relationship at all, which is another way of saying, "I didn't read the book or pay attention to the Lynch movie and am just going to make shit up, like Villeveuve did." I would say that Chani introducing herself to Paul, saying, 'I am Chani, daughter of Liet" in both the novel and the Lynch movie, makes the relationship crystal-clear. And later it's also made clear that Liet-Kynes was Chani's FATHER.
Jessica is not anyone's wife. She is Leto's Bound Concubine. That's like saying she is his Official Mistress (a title that used to be used in Tudor times and at the French court - the king had his wife, who was supposed to be his wife in every way - gracious hostess, enjoy the companionship of her ladies-in-waiting (who were often the sisters, cousins, or daughters of many of the king's councilors or other companions). But when the Queen was pregnant, the king would take a mistress... several in the case of Henry VIII. But if he'd taken an official mistress (something he suggested to Anne Boleyn at one point), it would not have been the same as marriage. She was there primarily for a sex partner and hostess when the Queen was occupied with being pregnant or if the Queen was otherwise not available. But it in no way equates to being a wife.
Jessica was in this second category. The Bene Gesserit should have known that, so whoever was in charge of continuity really screwed up.
I loved this movie. Many rewatches later, I still do.
But every time You make an Everything Great essay about something I love, I find new things to appreciate.
You, my man, are also a master at your craft! You bring joy and light into my world!
I feel u. 🤲
Denis Villeneuve is on a fast track to becoming my favourite Director. Arrival, Blade Runner 2049 and Dune are all fantastic movies. Cant wait to see where he takes this in part 2
Don't forget Sicario - Hans Zimmer music and the sound design on that are epic.
@@paulshawley6490 The Sicario score is by the late Jóhann Jóhannsson, not Zimmer. Agree about the epic sound design tho.
Yes, you're right - my mistake! It's an amazing score. @@janglausercomposer
When I first heard the Atreides theme with the bagpipes, some months ago now, I wondered why Hans Zimmer had composed such a down beat piece of music for them. I finally got the chance to see the film last weekend, and when I did, I understood why. The Atreides theme speaks of dignity, integrity... and courage when faced with disaster. It told us, in music, that all that House Atreides was before it went to Dune was doomed to oblivion.
One of my favorite hidden details is during the Sandworm attack on the spice harvester, when Paul says "I can hear your footsteps old man" calling back to knowing gurney is behind him. At the same time, the translation for Shai Hulud is "Old man of the desert"
Yeah, and you can tell Paul is surprised when Gurney touches his shoulder.
Back to rewatch this because I just rewatched the movie. I just realized that the start of the movie with Chani serves not only to give us a PoV that shows Frank Herbert's point better than the other versions, but it establishes the starting point of "the Hero's Journey" on Arrakis instead of Caladan. This means that when Paul goes on the "return" journey part of the journey, he ends up in Dune rather than at Caladan and it feels "right."
One change Villeneuve made that I actually love is that he has Jessica and Paul talk about leaving the planet and going into exile, only to show how futile the idea was: Getting the Landsraad involved might have gotten everyone mad at the emperor, but it also might have just made them more afraid, leaving Paul and his mother with no way out. We see this when Kynes is killed by the Emperor (via the Sardaukar), implying he's not above ridding himself of inconvenient whistleblowers.
When you said “you could watch this without dialogue and still understand what you’re supposed to feel.” That’s when I realized that this movie (which I love) shares something important with another movie I love….Fury Road. You could watch that movie with no dialogue and still understand what’s happening because the directing and camera work is deliberate and purposeful. Dune blew me away, seeing it in 4K laser projection and ATMOS really just made me appreciate how some movies deserve the big treatment…this being one of them.
The moment I fully fell in love with this movie was when we first see the Heighliner, I thought "That is a big ship", then you see how big the ship that came from the heighliner was and I was at a loss for words. This captured the book so perfectly, and you kind of missed a win for Jessica's face at the end of the movie. You see a look of almost fear in her eyes as she realizes what Paul intends to do.
This casting across the board is just perfection. I for one didn’t read books till after I had seen this. Feel sad I’ve missed out on such awesome reads but I digress. Leto, Gurney, Paul, Jessica, and Stillgar. Not to mention the Baron.. chills every time I see Stellen float in the suspender chair, “…MY DUNE.”
While the video is as well-made and informative as always, I have a one pet peeve: why oh why did you leave uncommented the scene of Bene Gesserit landing on Caladan? When I watched the movie, it was THE moment for me (naturally, later Denis managed to top it, the madlad, but still) when it really hit all. The. Notes. The Sisterhood's ship landing in the dark and fog, with only lights visible as if it was an old-timey aliens movie, the whispered chanting, Jessica on her knees, the robes billowing in the wind... It was the moment that made me understand why everybody calls Bene Gesserit sisters "witches".
It's the music. Nothing else.
To be honest, I always figured that it was a slur or insult. The Harkonnens could never manipulate them, the Emperor could never control them, and the Atreides could never gain their loyalty. They were bound to get a derogatory slur at some point
As someone who adores the book, this movie hit everything perfectly for me. I'm at a loss for words at how cinematic it was, and how well Denis gets Herbert's story. Denis' vision for how the book should be interpreted matched my own vision and I can't think of many other films based on books that do that for me.
So I guess you didnt watch Dune
@@DrLoverLover oh shut up, perfectionist
"Just like how Christopher Walken told us."
That's funny since he's about to play as Shaddam IV
Yep lol
Hey man. "Who mourns for Adonais" came out years after Dune. Herbert's concept of the Missionaria Protectiva is pure original.
i immediately fell in love with this movie during the spice harvester scene. i want to think that the quote "i recognize your footsteps, old man" is not only a call back to an earlier scene but a potential vision of the future when Gurney and Paul reunite.
The worm = "Old man of the desert" in Fremen lore.
When I was 14 my dad bought me original versions of the dune trilogy and I sped through them, and when we saw this movie four years later we were both so happy, it felt like an almost perfect adaptation of the book with stellar sound design and cinematography, can't wait for part 2.
To me the red and blue of the shields seems clearly inspired by tropes from modern video games and it just goes to show how far afield Villeneuve was looking for inspiration and how broad minded he is to see something like that work elsewhere and bring it into film or to use people with the outside experiences that led to that design choice, it makes it so clear to follow the action from any perspective and is just a great design choice.
You mean Halo? Yeah
@@MaticTheProto Halo is one clear example of where that blue/red motif is used but it's hardly the only example from video games.
I love when Duncan screams after pulling the sword out of him self. Could have stabbed them in the back, but that would be dishonorable, so he warns then he‘s still alive before fighting.
Him screaming and drawing their attention is also what makes them stop cutting through the door, allowing Paul and Jessica to flee without getting sliced up by the breaching laser.
When it comes to Jessica and Paul, I feel like he was more so realizing who his mother is with his glance, and she was sitting in complete fear of his power and figuring out did she actually create god
I agree with you on the looks between them. They recognize each other as adult people not mother and son. But she sees him as not god, but a poweul being that neither she or the Bene Geserit can control. The whole breeding program Paul comes from to produce him is designed to produce a puppet for them to use. Book spoiler, they "imprint" a young male through sex to be able to control him at a later time.
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This movie is an utter masterpiece in every way!
I like to think that "I recognise your footsteps old man" has a duel meaning, the second referring to the approach of Shai-Hulud known as the "Old Man of the Desert". Paul recognises it from his prescience even if he's not fully aware of it during his first spice trip.
You could feel the sound design the whole time-it was awsome
I went and bought a soundbar and subwoofer just in anticipation of this movie.
I first watched it on HBO Max. Then I begged my spouse to see it in IMAX. Oh my goodness we were blown away, even though both of us read the book multiple times and saw it at home first. It was a cinematic experience.
I like how, when making the point about goofy names, you chose "Kwisatz Haderach" as an example. It's pretty much directly lifted from Hebrew: קְפִיצַת הַדֶּרֶךְ (K'fitzat ha-Derekh)
Dune was overwhelmingly good, the trailers don't do it justice! Part 2 can't come out sooner!
When I went to the theatre, I initially wanted to watch Venom 2 (I never heard of Dune until then). I changed my mind based on iMDB scores just a couple of hours before the movie started, and what a great decision it was. D U N E is definitely the best movie of 2021.
Venom 2 was entertaining but not exactly art. That's fine, I thought it was worth the price of admission, but DUNE stuck with me on a deep level and was worth it tenfold
One thing occurred to me after having seen part 2 twice (so far). Since this movie is the first half of a larger narrative, there is a _lot_ of exposition. Many seeds are planted and very few actually come to fruition. We get the setup (House Atreides moving to Arrakis), the Harkonnen attack, and the fight with Jamis; other than that it's mostly world-building. (Honest Trailers had a fantastic joke about how the Dune universe is so complicated, even the characters have to watch UA-cam videos about it!) I think that's one reason it's such a gorgeous and attention-grabbing film: Villeneuve and his team are absolute masters at world-building. The LotR-worthy level of detail, the shots, the sets, the costumes, the score, the sound design, the pacing, they're all impeccable. Making all the threads come together in part 2 is the much greater challenge!
Can't wait to hear your take on part 2.
I saw this movie in theatre in IMAX and it was unbelievable.
BTW, some of the 'strange made up' words in the book/movie has real meaning in real life. For example, 'Qwitac haderech' is taken from Hebrew and it literally means the big leap or maybe a leap of faith. Other invented words also derived from Hebrew or Arabic.
The reason that the sound design is so good is because the sound team worked alongside everyone else, instead of working in post production.
Dont you just love it when a movie team actually works as a team instead of an assembly line?
I know i do.
This made me aware of how many call backs to his predictions there is in the second movie! “I recognize your footsteps old man” he captures the confusion of being unable to tell the present from the future so well!
Gurney halleck's singing scene was filmed actually, in fact, a lot of things were filmed but later cut because of time. Saddest part is the fact that dennis doesn't do director's cut :( we'll have to hope that he changes his mind about this one, extra scenes on blurays, or wait like 10 years and watch the 10 year anniversary version or smth 😭
I love this movie. cannot wait for the next part. I also would love to see CinemaWins cover Master and Commander: the far side of the world (2003) starring Russell Crowe and Paul Bettany. I feel like it's one that you would fall in love with instantly
Fun fact if anyone's curious about it, the house Atriedes bagpipes when they land are actually recorded by an insane musical genius called Guthrie Govan with an ELECTRIC GUITAR
WHAT
Jesus thats impressive
@@nemtudom5074 Starts off with an electric guitar “imitating” a bagpipe but when it booms that’s 30 or so actual bagpipes playing at once.
I truly feel pity for those who only watched it on tv
Dune in a movie theater was a crazy experience. When i came out i felt like i was drugged by it.
Finally! I went to see this movie with my girlfriend and she said it was bland and boring and nobody has ever appreciated this movie as much as I have since then. It's one of my favorite movies of all time and to hear someone actually care about it in detail is great
I always feel that it's a matter of expectations. Most major films are bops when this film is a vibe. You need to wanna vibe. Like it would be jarring rolling up to the club on a Friday night and instead of a club bangers, it's all Toni Braxton, All-4-one, and Whitney Houston. Still great artists, but you're gonna be put off.
Dump her. This movie is fucking awesome and she clearly missed that.
You obviously have VERY different tastes in movies.
the Christopher Walken jokes through the Dune videos have aged like a fine wine
As a big Dune head I've been so happy to see the overwhelming positive reactions to the film.
Yeah I remember back before it premiered in Europe and people were convinced it was going to flop
I’m hoping the momentum keeps going so we get Messiah
So I’ve been looking forward to this movie since I read the book when I was in high school. I was getting incredibly excited leading up to this movie because I believed that this was going to be one of the defining films of a generation. All indications were that Villeneuve and co were about to drop a masterpiece on the world. So I was incredibly excited going into it.
That said, the moment in the film which absolutely sold me on it was Paul’s vision in the tent. It really showed that Villeneuve gets where the story is going, that it’s not about a hero triumphing over evil and living happily ever after, but rather that it’s a tragedy. And it also served to greatly humanize Paul and Jessica when they had a tendency, in my opinion, to be very dull and robotic in the book. A friend of mine said, that Herbert’s characters are vehicles to further his world building, and I have to say, it is a valid point. But this scene literally had me crying in the theater because I know where it goes. You can see that Paul doesn’t want to become what he sees he is going to become, but he doesn’t know how to stop it…
As someone who read the first few books, when I first saw this in the theater and the intro went from Chani saying "who will our next oppressors be" to Paul after the title I knew Denis was cooking.
This movie was everything I wanted from the book. I love it honestly.
Duncan 's salute before engaging in sparring or battle, which Paul also does, is the informal way to bow in for Filipino Martial Arts/Eskrima-Kali-Arnis. E-K-A is the real-life martial arts system that they used for all of the fight choreography