I think the evolution of the gaming mice market has been pretty interesting. Back then it was about companies loading a mouse with so much stuff giving them all the reasons to price it high and it got to a point that even gamers thought they needed all that but now we're in a point where we've come to see and realize that all we really want and need are the basics. A stark contrast to how it usually is with any tech product where we want more stuff as it evolves.
For the Viper Mini LOD: Calibrate it using Synapse, choose the Vespula V2 Hard pad and *choose 3 on the Lift-off Range* (feel free to pick whatever feels best to you). I did try and set it to 1, but somehow the sensor felt odd and tracking is very off. Tested it by circling on the same area, and my cursor keeps going in a random direction, tracking in Apex also had a weird smoothing and acceleration effect. I then set it to 3 and it's fixed. Yes it's a bit higher, but not as high as the regular. (I didn't do tape mod or sand off the sensor ring)
I also have the G502, there's a hack where you put two weights toward the back right and it alters the center of gravity to actually make the mouse feel lighter, but it's still a very heavy mouse, so I'm looking at getting a Glorious
Optimum tech I've been watching you for a while. The amount of effort and cinematography that goes into these videos doesnt go unnoticed trust me. How you arent at a million is astonishing
I love my G305, battery life lasts a while (840~ hours use time with included AA battery,will have to test with 100% fresh battery) EDIT: been using new batteries for a while so they last now 1080~ Hours or 77~ days)
Will probably buy Rechargeable batteries after i use all the regular alkaline batteries i have laying around, even if they are half dead i will still get month of use.
@@rich22221 lithium is better: they make the mouse not only lighter but also with better weight distribution. P.S. there's no need to buy the pricey energizer 4 batteries pack, Varta sells a 2 pack that costs much less.
I’m not trypophobic, but when I play games and die or whatever, or kinda stress it, I squeeze my mouse. My hand really hurts after that, because of the design and if my hands do sweat, it can get on the insides and there isn’t anything protecting the components unlike how corsair moist-proofed their mouse of similar design. The mouse is very light weight and is good, but I just can’t get over how inconvenient it’s for me. I’d stick with the Viper Mini.
Bought mine for $35 and I love it, no mouse bungie and definitely doesn't hold me back in getting used to PC. My first mouse for my first build and plan on keeping it till it doesn't work
Laukas Kiemas that's what I used to think, but I believe that recently they have changed for the better. I just got a viper mini about a week ago and there is no build quality issues and it preforms flawlessly.
I used the Logitech G305 for 2 years and then switched to Viper Ultimate. Really like that the Viper ultimate is a lot lighter, but it is a larger than the G305 so had to get use to the shape for a while. Would definitely buy a Viper Mini wireless if there is one.
Never thought that in 2020 I'd be gaming with a Cooler Master keyboard AND mouse. MM710 has been rock solid, lightweight mice deserve all the attention they can get.
You got me on that G305 w/ AAA train with your first video on it. Been watching ever since. Honestly one of the best tech tubers on this thing and insane that you don't have 1 mill + subs yet.
note: all of these mice are said to be way more then they cost. Most of the mices here u can find for 10-20 dollars less on amazon. For example i got a viper mini for only 17 dollars and my friend has one that costed 30 dollars and mine was just about as good as his. Another one is the g203 the wireless version is a little better for tracking i think cause the cord is a bit stiff but it feels as if you're having something holding you back a bit when you have the wired mouse, but it does go for around 25-35 dollars on amazon wired.
7:41 Yeah, I know, Have been recently looking into building a custom keyboard and the prices are just eye-watering if you want something good enough to forget mainstream GaMiNg keyboards
@@gamerado9886 if you are looking for a good 60%, the GK61 is pretty great for the price, if you wanna pay more, then be sure to check out Durgod, it is really underrated but has some of the best bang-for-buck keyboards with great keycaps
For super budget gaming mouse, you may want the g203. I was using the Zowie EC2-B and I watched the g203 for 15€ and decided to buy it just to try it and well, I end up selling the Zowie and sticking with the g203, the cable and the skates where the worst part of it, so I changed both and voilá, my perfect mouse for ~45€, the good part is that you don't need to change them, I did it cause I wanted. Tbf I didn't think I could find my endgame in a 15€ mouse... Oh, and if you want wireless, G305, as he said, is the way to go.
In my experience, the model o is a great mouse, and compared to the viper, it feels better in the hand. Keep in mind that my had is pretty big and if you want the full lightweight experience, you will need some ceramic skates, but it blows the viper out of the water in fps.
I have both. The model O and the Viper. I prefer the model O. It feels better in the hand and the left side buttons are better placed and are more clicky. The Razers are harder to find and press quickly
I've been using my 2014 razer naga since well, 2014, and rarely on the mmo's it was meant for. Nothing's gone wrong, except for the scroll wheel being finicky, though I hear that's easy enough to clean out. Am tempted by these cheap, light mice tho, never actually managed to properly use all the buttons on my naga anyways.
if you play alot of fps, it is definitely worth it to switch to lightweight mouse. improved my game instantly because it is easier to stop and start the mouse due to less inertia.
The only reason why I got the viper mini was because the Logitech ones have click issues after a while(double click issue) and I still don't regret buying this mouse!
DISCLAIMER: Be aware that if you buy a glorious mouse they have this common theme and I mean very common, one of the buttons falls off, or gets really sticky and gets stuck in under a month. I’ve gone through 3 of these and all of them get the same problem. Sinse my siblings got the other two and had the same result. So please I’d urge you to look for something else till they fix the problem!
ive had my 0- since release and i play 8 hours a day. i bought my brothers each one and theirs are the same age. NO problems. maybe you need to wash your hands mutt
Your content is only just picking up, and I don't get why it hasn't already. Your videos are actually calming, you know what you're talking about because you actually game and so can tell how good something is, and you make concise videos that don't sound like Linus. Why does Linus even have so many subscribers anyways?
gk61 swap optical blue switches for optical silver switches lubed with tribosys 3204 fill in the case with foam at the bottom to reduce the hollowness add nicer keycaps if u want - 50$ premium feeling keyboard
Great vid as always. I personally use the deathadder v2 at work and the model d at home and for gaming. I have large hands. 20.3 x 10.1 cm. I use fingertip grip. Ambidextrous mice don’t work for me because most have low profiles and my ring finger doesn’t have a comfortable place to rest. This leads to inner palm cramping and finger rubbing. I’ve tried the g900, g pro wireless, viper ultimate. Out of those three the viper was the most comfortable to use but the finger rubbing thing was happening and so was cramping. I’ve always used gaming mice for work as they’re designed for comfort. If there was a wireless version of the model d That can maintain a low weight I’d probably use it as my all around mouse.
For the budget gamers, ($40) there is the cooler master cm110 and it is really nice! It has quite a nice shape, slighter flat top, and it registers drag clicks, and most double clicks. It is a *really* great mouse for starting gamers, and does a pretty good job with amateurs! And It has a quite similar shape to the Razer Viper Mini!! Edit: It does _Not_ have its own software but it has really nice RGB with many different colour modes, and cycles with decent lighting brightness. Hope this helped anyone!
I had 2 mouse in 10 years of gaming, one simple Logitech wireless one bought 15€ (it broke recently lel, having issues to scroll with it) and another one is a Logitech wireless with silent clicks bought 22€,and honestly, I am pretty decent in fps games. I may soon get a gaming mouse, probably Corsair m65 pro, and I wonder how good I may become with it lmao
I could get the Viper Mini at a decent price, but considering the last Razer product I had kinda went south on me within a year I'm a bit reluctant. Also not sure what their return policy is like should it go bad. I do hear good things about Logitech though.
When I was little (about 15) I had my best aim so far in CS 1.6 while playing with a super small gaming mouse. It was really much smaller than the one shown here.. but it was perfect. Never found it again.
What about the Endgame Gear XM1, why aren't you using it anymore? I know it's 59€(I don't know how much in Dollar), but it got a sleved cable now, which was your strongest complaint! Still you have only mentioned it in one mouse video and not even really included it in the list that time. Can you please make a video about it, especially talking about the advertised "
I've always said the $50+ mice were a rip off. For years people were buying those $100+ mice because of the brand. I've had a Redragon M901 for probably close to 10 years now. Paid $30 for it and I still used it daily. Pretty minimal wear and tear on it. All buttons are still responsive and not spongy feeling at all. And it's MMO style with 12 buttons on the thumb. I use these in FPS to change weapons, throw grenades, etc so I don't have to take my hands off wasd. I am just starting to get some fraying on the braided cable, but I had a desk for 2 years that had a sharp glass edge on it, otherwise it probably wouldn't have started fraying at all. I'm glad to see that mice manufacturers are starting to bring their prices down to at least the sub $50 range. For a few years there it was like putting "gaming" on something just added $30-80 to the price for no reason. Maybe keyboard manufacturers will do the same. I used the Redragon Mechanical keyboard for a while but the clicky sounds drove my S/O nuts. It was damn solid quality, had MX Cherry and it was under $50. At the time name brands weren't under $100-150. I think for peripherals, all the major brands have been WAAAY over priced due to "gamer hype" . Now it looks like they are getting on the level. I'd rather save $50 on a brand name keyboard, and put that $50 into storage or ram upgrades. I'm cheap and cynical though.
Curious how the Razer Viper (Mini) compares to the DeathAdder Elite. Having used a DeathAdder Elite and then switched to the Logitech G Pro Graming (not wireless), I would not use another Razer mouse. The Logitech felt vastly superior. In other words, I'm curious if my experience with the DeathAdder Elite would be similar to their other products.
i went from g403 as my main to s2 to model O to viper mini and man i like how my main mouse is getting better but getting cheaper if you want to know anything that is in overwatch you can ask me (galax t500 bob main)
@@_________________142 l really can’t tell the different for lod and I use Super low sens in game so I lift up my mouse a lot so viper mini 100% plus the price
I just got the Razer Viper over the Viper Mini because I’m new to Mouse and keyboard. The full-size Viper has more buttons and rubber grips. I’m happy with my choice
As much as I'd like to get one of these, my logitech g502 hero is my baby 😍 actually bought one used, and a month later I bought one new for my main pc. Price fluctuates alot, but I grabbed it new for £45 :P As much as I'd like to get one of these, my logitech g502 hero is my baby 😍 actually bought one used, and a month later I bought one new for my main pc. Price fluctuates alot, but I grabbed it new for £45 :P edit: I might give the model O a try at some point though :)
I recently returned mine. I hate how that mouse flares out towards the front. It makes me feel like I am aiming with a big sharpie. Even though I returned the Model O minus, it's definitely a much better shape for fingertip users than the Viper Mini. I returned mine because the side buttons were positioned so low that I constantly kept accidentally clicking them mid-gunfights. and it's all because of that stupid RGB line😡. If your fingertip grip is very relaxed or if you thumb pinches the mouse(if you don't fully lay your thumb under the side buttons) , I 100% recommend you to try the Model O minus.
Still loving my Roccat Nyth, not a budget mouse, but... It is unfortunate it's been discontinued, I haven't seen anything that'd be able to replace it if mine goes out.
I went to my nearby Best Buy store to buy the g305. When i held it in my hand at the store, it was obviously way too wide for my finger-tip-grip. Which is weird because I have huge hands with super long fingers, so if it was too wide for me, I can't see anyone else using it for finger-tip-gripping. Strange design, since the g305 seems to be trying to be a small mouse, but it's actually very wide at the base. I bought the Viper Mini instead, it's much narrower. It isn't wireless, but without a battery, it weighs less which is good for finger-tip-gripping as well. Also the Viper Mini has RGB, which I wouldn't choose a mouse based on (size/shape and accuracy matter more) but seeing the Mini on my desk, I can't help but notice that the RGB on the Viper Mini is pretty damn sexy. When the ladies see it on my desk, they're gonna be like dayum.
The Model O wasn't available for me to try out, but I would have liked to try it at the store. Honestly I would probably just get food and gunk stuck in the cutout holes on the Model O, though. The combination of crumbs, hand sweat, and occasional coffee spills, makes the mouse area of my desk a pretty dirty environment. I have to clean my mouse and keyboard pretty often and those cutout holes look like trouble for me. If you have an OCD clean setup and you never eat or drink or smoke while using your mouse, then maybe you would like the weight reduction that the holes give you.
got viper mini today. Coming from Logitech g300s, the sensor is miles better. Although the mouse is very uncomfortable, i played for like 30 minutes and it almost numbed the right side of my hand. This problem is of course just for me but if anyone has not so small hands and uses claw grip, i would recommend you to atleast try it before buying.
G305 (G304 in my country) is so good. I buy another one for my office. It works on any desk surfaces, even glass one. Edit: Shout out to your video "My Gaming Peripheral Setup" which inspire me to buy 2 G305's. Thanks man. Keep it up for sub count.
this list is missing the mm710, which is essentially the cheapest honeycomb alternative, and it's pretty great. if you're looking for the cheapest best finalmouse alternative, mm710 is amazing, especially after the refreshes in new batches
I have some problems with the MM710 / MM711. Mainly because the PCB and weight of the mouse is all in the front, and the entire rear of the mouse is empty. This gives you a really cheap / hollow / unbalanced feeling, and that's why it's not on the list.
@@optimumtech I agree, for people who use palm and have larger hands, it's kind of pain to really feel comfortable getting a grip. For claw or fingertip though and if your hands can fit on it, it's practically perfect. It's especially better than a lot of heavier mice (53g), like the G305 (~82g) and some of the other mice here (~69g), with the cable being a huge plus to it's almost wireless feel. I grip using claw, and with how light it is, along seemingly no drag on the cable, I grip it pretty well and can flick/track pretty accurately. Personal preference at the end of the day, and I think the main issues with it will come down to sizing and quality checks on batches. If you're dead broke and it fits, it's probably the best mouse, if not close the Viper Mini. Glorious Mice hit the spot though, and I think those will probably be the best for people on average, especially with the versatile options they have for different hand sizes and grips. Also, just as a note, modding MM710 isn't really as feasible as opposed to Glorious Mice, if you're trying to do stuff with new feet and cables, and if anything modding the MM710 would just be for fixing quality control issues. I hope my word vomit wasn't terrible
in terms of budget gaming mice, look at DreamMachines while you're at it. Top sensors, amazing shapes and they only cost about 30 to 40 bucks. Makes my logitech g pro and my mm711 obsolete as the dm1 FPS mouse for example costs less and in terms of buttons does even better. Yeah they're a polish company, people are usually afraid to try less famous companies but man, best decision I ever made. Not even looking at anything else anymore because nothing comes close at that price range. They could charge as much as steelseries and zowie does if they wanted, because they are just as good.
bro u are literally the only person that does reviews and knows how to play the game
Random Frank’s is decent at video games from gameplay I’ve seen
@@NoahParky dmitry , bt and rjn also
factss
or hes a gamer that do review?
what about rjn or boardzy
I think the evolution of the gaming mice market has been pretty interesting. Back then it was about companies loading a mouse with so much stuff giving them all the reasons to price it high and it got to a point that even gamers thought they needed all that but now we're in a point where we've come to see and realize that all we really want and need are the basics. A stark contrast to how it usually is with any tech product where we want more stuff as it evolves.
For the Viper Mini LOD: Calibrate it using Synapse, choose the Vespula V2 Hard pad and *choose 3 on the Lift-off Range* (feel free to pick whatever feels best to you). I did try and set it to 1, but somehow the sensor felt odd and tracking is very off. Tested it by circling on the same area, and my cursor keeps going in a random direction, tracking in Apex also had a weird smoothing and acceleration effect.
I then set it to 3 and it's fixed. Yes it's a bit higher, but not as high as the regular. (I didn't do tape mod or sand off the sensor ring)
250K is in arm's reach - well deserved that. Any chance for a "behind the scenes" or something?
Damn, man gained another 100k in 5 months
He’s at 429k now, just 9 months later. Mans went off
@@kylemcgarry5380 and totally deserved. Let's hope for a 500k behind the scenes lol
@@kylemcgarry5380 434k
@@kylemcgarry5380 497k
4:54 "Eliminated AnimeTidies" well done, man. Well done.
This comment made my day and it's 3:00 AM
Wait I was watching this near my dad so thank you I'm not going to continue the video.
@@EV-md5uh It made you day and night
Crayator crying in the corner
mans killed phoon as well
i have g502 brick , man this thing is lethal, can crack some skull with this
Ya I know
Seriously, with all those sharp angles that thing is a weapon
I love how nobody talks about the G402 or the Razer Basillisk
I also have the G502, there's a hack where you put two weights toward the back right and it alters the center of gravity to actually make the mouse feel lighter, but it's still a very heavy mouse, so I'm looking at getting a Glorious
Same
"the lift off distance is pretty high it's about 2 millimeters"
lmao my office mouse i use to play games is still usable at like 1.5 centimeters high
My model o- is min 2
Optimum tech I've been watching you for a while. The amount of effort and cinematography that goes into these videos doesnt go unnoticed trust me. How you arent at a million is astonishing
I love my G305, battery life lasts a while (840~ hours use time with included AA battery,will have to test with 100% fresh battery)
EDIT: been using new batteries for a while so they last now 1080~ Hours or 77~ days)
Lithium batteries are lighter and last longer
Will probably buy Rechargeable batteries after i use all the regular alkaline batteries i have laying around, even if they are half dead i will still get month of use.
@@rich22221 lithium is better: they make the mouse not only lighter but also with better weight distribution.
P.S. there's no need to buy the pricey energizer 4 batteries pack, Varta sells a 2 pack that costs much less.
I use AAAs without the back cover for a 72g mouse
i hate the sensor lag that comes with it, wireless is not there yet imo.
Audio-visual quality - high. Content - Concise and useful.
I just watched the review of the razer and logitech one, the honey comb mouses just trigger my trypohobia
Damn that's a pity... They look really good if you don't have trypophobia 😂
I’m not trypophobic, but when I play games and die or whatever, or kinda stress it, I squeeze my mouse. My hand really hurts after that, because of the design and if my hands do sweat, it can get on the insides and there isn’t anything protecting the components unlike how corsair moist-proofed their mouse of similar design. The mouse is very light weight and is good, but I just can’t get over how inconvenient it’s for me. I’d stick with the Viper Mini.
Sameeeee I get so itchy
The second version of XM1 is the best one. There's some nice discounts for it too making it fit the budget.
I find it amazing that it has more RGB than the Viper Ultimate
can you just shut up?
@@tomzidahmed3300 😂
@@tomzidahmed3300 who hurt you 💀
@@tomzidahmed3300 he ain’t even talking it was a literal comment dummy
I'm using the G304 which is equivalent to the G305 and it's been serving me well for almost a year.
Jason Foo ok but who asked
@@Vexump I did
@@Vexump your dad
@@muqhriasmadi ok but who asked
@@Vexump you already got your answer xD
I bought the G305 last year when it was on sale, best budget gaming mice I ever had and still using it to this day.
Any things that are bad about it?
What games do you play on it?
@@maxb9620 its heavy
100g too heavy
g305 gang, where you at?
Bought mine for $35 and I love it, no mouse bungie and definitely doesn't hold me back in getting used to PC. My first mouse for my first build and plan on keeping it till it doesn't work
In white because it’s the only decent white wireless mouse. I have some other gaming mice but this one honestly feels best.
G pro user but after trying my friend's g305 I actually prefer the shape
hello there. actually testing it against gpro wireless and a sharkoon 200 mouse
@@maximilian9867 yes it´s awesome and you can still reduce the weight by getting lighter batteries.
“maybe you want to upgrade your gaming setup”
My cat used my mouse cable as a trampoline and broke my usb
Lol
LMAO
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I have the Razer Viper Mini and this thing has held through fine for like 3 years and still works great its crazy
I'm buying the Viper Mini after my MM710 started to disconnect and reconnect randomly after about 3~ years of use.
Coolermaster MM710/711 are my personal favorites atm, size is perfect for me - and it has all the features I want in a gaming mouse.
Mm711 is my main and can confirm its a really good mouse
yea, same ++
mm711 is a steal and a great mouse at any price. Rocking it as my main as well.
@@Jesus-bq1nv bro is it still working good?
@@hoggi_ bro is it still working good?
definitely gonna go for the razor viper mini, and the rk61. honestly looks like a godly budget combo
Nice
I had a lot of bad experience with razer, would recommend to stay away from all razer products, terrible quality
Laukas Kiemas that's what I used to think, but I believe that recently they have changed for the better. I just got a viper mini about a week ago and there is no build quality issues and it preforms flawlessly.
Laukas Kiemas yeah I decided to get a g402 instead, great mouse
@@shadey_x8985 too heavy for me
All of those mouse is like 100$ in my country, im stuck here w my g402 for 4 years
frhn I don’t even have a gaming mouse
@@KHRacing I dont even have a mouse
@@garfieldblessesyouwithadri3944 I don't even have a pc
@@michaeljrico124 I don't even have
@@marcusrat4466 I dont even have even have
bro you should continue on this series with [best of 2023, wireless, budget] would love to see your lists!
I used the Logitech G305 for 2 years and then switched to Viper Ultimate. Really like that the Viper ultimate is a lot lighter, but it is a larger than the G305 so had to get use to the shape for a while. Would definitely buy a Viper Mini wireless if there is one.
Viper mini wireless doesn't exist
@@vigorousss3565 I said "if there is one" smart guy LOL
@@thelaughinghuy oh I misread sory lol
Never thought that in 2020 I'd be gaming with a Cooler Master keyboard AND mouse. MM710 has been rock solid, lightweight mice deserve all the attention they can get.
Yeah , I'm planning to buy it .
Should I go for it ?
The color blocking/placing in this video was sublime.
Mechanical Keyboard are starting to become a bit more affordable aswell like the RK61
As well as the Motospeed CK61
@@CardzKingYT how can i do Rage quit with Alt+F4 on these keyboards ?
@@marvbywar4all you hold down the function button then you do alt f4
@@marvbywar4all then try some budget TKLs or 75% keyboards, like the red dragon Kumara K552
You got me on that G305 w/ AAA train with your first video on it. Been watching ever since. Honestly one of the best tech tubers on this thing and insane that you don't have 1 mill + subs yet.
gameing
I have been using am el-cheapo $10 Gaming mouse from Amazon and have had 0 issues with it.
I'm surprised not to see something more budget minded here.
Because when you get into that range latency and lower quality sensors start to arrive.
An Aussie tech review channel, finally an accent I can understand
Racist much?
@@user-ou4lo8os9p very yes
note: all of these mice are said to be way more then they cost. Most of the mices here u can find for 10-20 dollars less on amazon. For example i got a viper mini for only 17 dollars and my friend has one that costed 30 dollars and mine was just about as good as his. Another one is the g203 the wireless version is a little better for tracking i think cause the cord is a bit stiff but it feels as if you're having something holding you back a bit when you have the wired mouse, but it does go for around 25-35 dollars on amazon wired.
7:41
Yeah, I know, Have been recently looking into building a custom keyboard and the prices are just eye-watering if you want something good enough to forget mainstream GaMiNg keyboards
Think about the rk61
@@1Sacrif1ce I would but tkl is too big for me
@@1Sacrif1ce it's only good as a budget keyboard, not good compared to more expensive options
@@1Sacrif1ce and it has blue switches which i hate, they feel so sluggish for gaming
@@gamerado9886 if you are looking for a good 60%, the GK61 is pretty great for the price, if you wanna pay more, then be sure to check out Durgod, it is really underrated but has some of the best bang-for-buck keyboards with great keycaps
Pulse fire haste is also an amazing option with TTC gold switches, an excellent cable, great build quality, extra mouse skates and grips for only 50$
For super budget gaming mouse, you may want the g203.
I was using the Zowie EC2-B and I watched the g203 for 15€ and decided to buy it just to try it and well, I end up selling the Zowie and sticking with the g203, the cable and the skates where the worst part of it, so I changed both and voilá, my perfect mouse for ~45€, the good part is that you don't need to change them, I did it cause I wanted. Tbf I didn't think I could find my endgame in a 15€ mouse...
Oh, and if you want wireless, G305, as he said, is the way to go.
I will go with the razer viper. Im left handed and im really thankfull for razer for thinking about us. :)
Lefties unite
I too, am left handed. But I use my mouse in my right hand. I thank them too, even though it doesn't affect me.
Flick same
but what about them keyboards though?
I was literally searching for a new gaming mouse today and this video popped out, I’m still torn between the model O and the viper 🤔
In my experience, the model o is a great mouse, and compared to the viper, it feels better in the hand. Keep in mind that my had is pretty big and if you want the full lightweight experience, you will need some ceramic skates, but it blows the viper out of the water in fps.
Get the viper mate, unless you want to open up your mouse and clean out all the dead skin cells and dust every few weeks.
I've got the Model O and Model O- and I would definitely recommend them both
I have both. The model O and the Viper. I prefer the model O. It feels better in the hand and the left side buttons are better placed and are more clicky. The Razers are harder to find and press quickly
Goose did you measure your hand? How big is it? What grip do you normally use with the model O?
the viper mini lift off distance issue can also be fixed by a tape mod.
basically just putting tape, covering the bottom half of the sensor.
I've been using my 2014 razer naga since well, 2014, and rarely on the mmo's it was meant for. Nothing's gone wrong, except for the scroll wheel being finicky, though I hear that's easy enough to clean out. Am tempted by these cheap, light mice tho, never actually managed to properly use all the buttons on my naga anyways.
My Naga is an evergreen... 2014&ESO...
if you play alot of fps, it is definitely worth it to switch to lightweight mouse. improved my game instantly because it is easier to stop and start the mouse due to less inertia.
i like how he clicked the mice after just in case you want a more quiet mouse
I'm waiting for a Viper Mini Wireless. When that comes out i'm getting rid of my Air58 Ninja and buying that.
Nvm i bought a mm711 :) love it so far
bro your mouse is worth 500$ and it's not even that good
By any chance u selling the air 58
I’ll give u the viper ultimate and a glorious model o for the air58
First person to recommend affordable gaming mice that aren't cheap rgb OEMs from China
We need an rgb mouse with underglow imagine that
I think the Abyssuss Essential (idk how to spell it) does have underglow
The biggest YES for viper is the optical switches as they aren't susceptible to double click issue
Why doesnt OT have more subs... really clean and simple review. My go-to reviewer
he has gone from just under 100k to 250k in about a year so 2.5x channel growth in a year is pretty good.
The only reason why I got the viper mini was because the Logitech ones have click issues after a while(double click issue) and I still don't regret buying this mouse!
Him: but before we get into it I have an honorable mention
Also him half way thru the vid: so the Razor Viper Mini is...
Glad the viper mini gets the credit it deserves
If they made that mouse wireless it would be my main mouse for the rest of my life
hahagager you can buy a mouse bungee that makes your mouse feel wireless
Ryan Knight I tried a mouse bungee but my mouse pad is too big for one so it doesn’t really fix my problem
@@hahagager yeah had the same problem. I move my mouse too much
Well, model O is wireless now.
@@Saigonas The viper mini not the model O. I had the model O once and it was shit.
i love how chill your chanel is you just calmly talk about tech nice
In my country the Razer Viper Mini costs 59$ ;(
@Easton Reese Denmark
DISCLAIMER: Be aware that if you buy a glorious mouse they have this common theme and I mean very common, one of the buttons falls off, or gets really sticky and gets stuck in under a month. I’ve gone through 3 of these and all of them get the same problem. Sinse my siblings got the other two and had the same result. So please I’d urge you to look for something else till they fix the problem!
ive had my 0- since release and i play 8 hours a day. i bought my brothers each one and theirs are the same age. NO problems. maybe you need to wash your hands mutt
@@babyjay2932 tf i meant the inside of it XD. even then i dont even eat in my room ion like making my things dirty
Your content is only just picking up, and I don't get why it hasn't already. Your videos are actually calming, you know what you're talking about because you actually game and so can tell how good something is, and you make concise videos that don't sound like Linus.
Why does Linus even have so many subscribers anyways?
gk61 swap optical blue switches for optical silver switches lubed with tribosys 3204 fill in the case with foam at the bottom to reduce the hollowness add nicer keycaps if u want - 50$ premium feeling keyboard
yeah, if you buy nice keycaps, you might as well spend a bit more on a much better keyboard
Great vid as always. I personally use the deathadder v2 at work and the model d at home and for gaming. I have large hands. 20.3 x 10.1 cm. I use fingertip grip. Ambidextrous mice don’t work for me because most have low profiles and my ring finger doesn’t have a comfortable place to rest. This leads to inner palm cramping and finger rubbing. I’ve tried the g900, g pro wireless, viper ultimate. Out of those three the viper was the most comfortable to use but the finger rubbing thing was happening and so was cramping. I’ve always used gaming mice for work as they’re designed for comfort. If there was a wireless version of the model d That can maintain a low weight I’d probably use it as my all around mouse.
For the budget gamers, ($40) there is the cooler master cm110 and it is really nice! It has quite a nice shape, slighter flat top, and it registers drag clicks, and most double clicks. It is a *really* great mouse for starting gamers, and does a pretty good job with amateurs! And It has a quite similar shape to the Razer Viper Mini!!
Edit: It does _Not_ have its own software but it has really nice RGB with many different colour modes, and cycles with decent lighting brightness.
Hope this helped anyone!
Yeah because double clicks are definitely a good thing
I gave away my first gaming mouse because of double clicks, so why would you think i will like a mouse that does that?
Dude I’ve been gaming on a damn. 12 dollar mouse and I’d just be glad to get one of these 😂
I have a G-lab kult100 20$ its not bad for the price 3 years and still good
I had 2 mouse in 10 years of gaming, one simple Logitech wireless one bought 15€ (it broke recently lel, having issues to scroll with it) and another one is a Logitech wireless with silent clicks bought 22€,and honestly, I am pretty decent in fps games. I may soon get a gaming mouse, probably Corsair m65 pro, and I wonder how good I may become with it lmao
I'm using like a $1 mouse lol
Get the g203, it’s really good for its price
@@Tallybby I have an 80 dollar mouse now
Using model D for 3 months now. IT’S GLORIOUS
I could get the Viper Mini at a decent price, but considering the last Razer product I had kinda went south on me within a year I'm a bit reluctant. Also not sure what their return policy is like should it go bad. I do hear good things about Logitech though.
When I was little (about 15) I had my best aim so far in CS 1.6 while playing with a super small gaming mouse. It was really much smaller than the one shown here.. but it was perfect. Never found it again.
i'm looking forward a video about keyboards ;)
I absolutely no regrets putchasing my viper mini last xmas. ❤️
bro i bought it, it is coming on february
What about the Endgame Gear XM1, why aren't you using it anymore? I know it's 59€(I don't know how much in Dollar), but it got a sleved cable now, which was your strongest complaint! Still you have only mentioned it in one mouse video and not even really included it in the list that time. Can you please make a video about it, especially talking about the advertised "
Got my for 49 dollars, amazing mouse. Clearly better than Model D, O and O-
I've always said the $50+ mice were a rip off. For years people were buying those $100+ mice because of the brand. I've had a Redragon M901 for probably close to 10 years now. Paid $30 for it and I still used it daily. Pretty minimal wear and tear on it. All buttons are still responsive and not spongy feeling at all. And it's MMO style with 12 buttons on the thumb. I use these in FPS to change weapons, throw grenades, etc so I don't have to take my hands off wasd. I am just starting to get some fraying on the braided cable, but I had a desk for 2 years that had a sharp glass edge on it, otherwise it probably wouldn't have started fraying at all.
I'm glad to see that mice manufacturers are starting to bring their prices down to at least the sub $50 range. For a few years there it was like putting "gaming" on something just added $30-80 to the price for no reason. Maybe keyboard manufacturers will do the same. I used the Redragon Mechanical keyboard for a while but the clicky sounds drove my S/O nuts. It was damn solid quality, had MX Cherry and it was under $50. At the time name brands weren't under $100-150.
I think for peripherals, all the major brands have been WAAAY over priced due to "gamer hype" . Now it looks like they are getting on the level. I'd rather save $50 on a brand name keyboard, and put that $50 into storage or ram upgrades.
I'm cheap and cynical though.
Curious how the Razer Viper (Mini) compares to the DeathAdder Elite. Having used a DeathAdder Elite and then switched to the Logitech G Pro Graming (not wireless), I would not use another Razer mouse. The Logitech felt vastly superior. In other words, I'm curious if my experience with the DeathAdder Elite would be similar to their other products.
Just ordered a Viper mini yesterday, I'm so excited for it lol
Neko tell me if it’s good
@@kingsirski it's good
@@kingsirski it’s good
me hearing the viper mini is 39$
le me: :D
shipping cost:104$ excluding tax
le me: >:(
Did you really have to put a “le” there?
@@konfu_ion weirdos
which country mine is $14 for shipping
Me: *Laughs in Amazon Prime*
@@carlogaytan7010 yessss
I have small hands and the viper mini is the perfect mouse for me and worth way more than what razer ask imo.
i recommend Glorius
D or O?
I recommend that u learn how to spell
Other than the cable the viper mini is my endgame, i need to get a paracord and a bungee to make it endgame
XM1 from Endgame is actually endgame.
Will you be doing a review of the Sliger console/ Conswole soon?
Liam Mccoll yep! They just arrived.
I can afford both. What would you recommend? The Viper Mini or G305?
Optimum tech: Viper mini deserves more attention.
Me in reddit: half the posts right now are related to viper mini
I mean the r/mousereview subreddit is big, but its still a small percentage of the gaming community lol
i went from g403 as my main to s2 to model O to viper mini and man i like how my main mouse is getting better but getting cheaper
if you want to know anything that is in overwatch you can ask me (galax t500 bob main)
I'm torn between G403 and Viper Mini, which one is better in your opinion? Is the LOD a huge issue on the Viper Mini?
German Lehmann what’s LOD ?
@@shiion6711 lift off distance
@@_________________142 l really can’t tell the different for lod and I use Super low sens in game so I lift up my mouse a lot so viper mini 100% plus the price
no special mention from Cooler Master? :(
mm711 gang
I just got the Razer Viper over the Viper Mini because I’m new to Mouse and keyboard.
The full-size Viper has more buttons and rubber grips. I’m happy with my choice
As much as I'd like to get one of these, my logitech g502 hero is my baby 😍 actually bought one used, and a month later I bought one new for my main pc. Price fluctuates alot, but I grabbed it new for £45 :P As much as I'd like to get one of these, my logitech g502 hero is my baby 😍 actually bought one used, and a month later I bought one new for my main pc. Price fluctuates alot, but I grabbed it new for £45 :P edit: I might give the model O a try at some point though :)
its a good mice for rpg and mmo games but not for fps
My G502 have an issue when i click the scrollwheel it won't register. Other than that it's a great mouse.
G502 lightspeed🤤🤤🤤
Red Dragon Emperor (M909) is a solid budget choice. Pixart 3327 sensor.
Well g305 is just the mice for me.
I recently returned mine. I hate how that mouse flares out towards the front. It makes me feel like I am aiming with a big sharpie. Even though I returned the Model O minus, it's definitely a much better shape for fingertip users than the Viper Mini. I returned mine because the side buttons were positioned so low that I constantly kept accidentally clicking them mid-gunfights. and it's all because of that stupid RGB line😡. If your fingertip grip is very relaxed or if you thumb pinches the mouse(if you don't fully lay your thumb under the side buttons) , I 100% recommend you to try the Model O minus.
"budget" includes 90 dollar mouse
That's one huge budget 😱
Ali's aim tracking is godlike!
$50 isn't budget.
It is compared to other options
It's the cutoff
Its now 33€
Yes it is.
It is for a gaming mouse
Would u reccomend viper mini or model o
Yeah
optimum prime do be speaking facts
Still loving my Roccat Nyth, not a budget mouse, but... It is unfortunate it's been discontinued, I haven't seen anything that'd be able to replace it if mine goes out.
What about the corsair scimitar?
Razer naga
I have G703...very happy with it till now..
agree.. love it. fits my hands nicely
I went to my nearby Best Buy store to buy the g305. When i held it in my hand at the store, it was obviously way too wide for my finger-tip-grip. Which is weird because I have huge hands with super long fingers, so if it was too wide for me, I can't see anyone else using it for finger-tip-gripping. Strange design, since the g305 seems to be trying to be a small mouse, but it's actually very wide at the base. I bought the Viper Mini instead, it's much narrower. It isn't wireless, but without a battery, it weighs less which is good for finger-tip-gripping as well. Also the Viper Mini has RGB, which I wouldn't choose a mouse based on (size/shape and accuracy matter more) but seeing the Mini on my desk, I can't help but notice that the RGB on the Viper Mini is pretty damn sexy. When the ladies see it on my desk, they're gonna be like dayum.
The Model O wasn't available for me to try out, but I would have liked to try it at the store. Honestly I would probably just get food and gunk stuck in the cutout holes on the Model O, though. The combination of crumbs, hand sweat, and occasional coffee spills, makes the mouse area of my desk a pretty dirty environment. I have to clean my mouse and keyboard pretty often and those cutout holes look like trouble for me. If you have an OCD clean setup and you never eat or drink or smoke while using your mouse, then maybe you would like the weight reduction that the holes give you.
got viper mini today. Coming from Logitech g300s, the sensor is miles better. Although the mouse is very uncomfortable, i played for like 30 minutes and it almost numbed the right side of my hand. This problem is of course just for me but if anyone has not so small hands and uses claw grip, i would recommend you to atleast try it before buying.
I have the viper mini for almost a year and it is perfect. :D still looks like new! cant imagine beter mice
Did you tried the logitech g305 bro?
Is the viper mini good? Is there a delay?
G305 (G304 in my country) is so good. I buy another one for my office. It works on any desk surfaces, even glass one.
Edit: Shout out to your video "My Gaming Peripheral Setup" which inspire me to buy 2 G305's. Thanks man. Keep it up for sub count.
why is it g304? lmao
@@AlexCS2 Had no idea why. Far as I know both G304 and 305 are identical mice.
i kind of feel like the razer basilisk was left out, its a great budget gaming mouse
Ryan M. true, its old, but, personally, i don’t really think it matters, idk, it’s a cheaper alternative i guess
The G305 modding community is massive. It's the Toyo 86 of mouses
You influenced me on buying the G304/G305
And I can't be happier
How is it now?
@@Hey-sw9lm on my second G304 since 2023
it lasts around 2 yrs before double clicking, at that point just get a new one for 33$
@@blackknight50277621 Ight thanks
hyperx alloy origins core is a really good keyboard for under $100. I got mine used for $70 but it looks and feels brand new.
I love the razer basilisk rn
this list is missing the mm710, which is essentially the cheapest honeycomb alternative, and it's pretty great. if you're looking for the cheapest best finalmouse alternative, mm710 is amazing, especially after the refreshes in new batches
I have some problems with the MM710 / MM711. Mainly because the PCB and weight of the mouse is all in the front, and the entire rear of the mouse is empty. This gives you a really cheap / hollow / unbalanced feeling, and that's why it's not on the list.
@@optimumtech I agree, for people who use palm and have larger hands, it's kind of pain to really feel comfortable getting a grip. For claw or fingertip though and if your hands can fit on it, it's practically perfect. It's especially better than a lot of heavier mice (53g), like the G305 (~82g) and some of the other mice here (~69g), with the cable being a huge plus to it's almost wireless feel. I grip using claw, and with how light it is, along seemingly no drag on the cable, I grip it pretty well and can flick/track pretty accurately. Personal preference at the end of the day, and I think the main issues with it will come down to sizing and quality checks on batches. If you're dead broke and it fits, it's probably the best mouse, if not close the Viper Mini. Glorious Mice hit the spot though, and I think those will probably be the best for people on average, especially with the versatile options they have for different hand sizes and grips. Also, just as a note, modding MM710 isn't really as feasible as opposed to Glorious Mice, if you're trying to do stuff with new feet and cables, and if anything modding the MM710 would just be for fixing quality control issues.
I hope my word vomit wasn't terrible
3:28 i know im late but "that a good thing" lmao
in terms of budget gaming mice, look at DreamMachines while you're at it.
Top sensors, amazing shapes and they only cost about 30 to 40 bucks. Makes my logitech g pro and my mm711 obsolete as the dm1 FPS mouse for example costs less and in terms of buttons does even better.
Yeah they're a polish company, people are usually afraid to try less famous companies but man, best decision I ever made. Not even looking at anything else anymore because nothing comes close at that price range. They could charge as much as steelseries and zowie does if they wanted, because they are just as good.
This is the video I needed to see, my G102 started doubleclicking recently and I've been looking to replace it. I think I'm going to get the Xtrfy M4
I don't mind the LOD of the Viper mini because of how light it is.