Samsung TV Future is NOT OLED; Vision Pro Flaws! Fomoshow Feb 14, 2024
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1:34 Samsung's New Direction
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8:47 OLED's Problem is not Brightness
9:58 TVs already good enough?
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I couldn’t agree more, FOMO. The reason OLEDs have such a small market share is high prices. The average consumer will spend $800 on an 85 inch basic LED rather than $1,400 on a 65 inch midrange OLED. I offered my sister a 43 inch Sony with 4K, HDR and Google TV but my neighbor was giving away an older 55 inch HD TV. Even though I explained the advantages of 4K HDR to my sis, she took the 55 inch instead. OLEDs need to get bigger and cheaper in order to grab a bigger market share. If LG, Samsung and Sony keep treating OLED as a premium product, they will keep loosing market share to TCL and Hisense while forcing TV enthusiasts to pay more. Sony has a new trick to improve MiniLEDs but we all know it will never surpass OLED. The thing is, the average consumer does not care-they want bigger and cheaper.
I thought when Samsung entered the market with QD-OLED prices of all OLED would come down as they are not just competing with each other’s OLED but also losing LCD market share. For some reason they don’t seem to care and are staying the course while in LG’s case losing money. Meanwhile LG Display doesn’t use all of their OLED manufacturing in order to keep prices high.
I think if OLED's cross the line and push full 12 bit color as an exclusive it is OVER. But they have to commit. Your sis would bite as women in general notice color even more.
I could care less about ATMOS, it is TAMPERED revisionist audio to me. I want the solid Lossless, NO tampering like Atmos.
@@XVa-uj8mAverage consumers don't give a shit about 12 bit color.
Only Videophiles do.
It's "I COULDN'T care less".
I could care less implies YOU DO CARE.
I@@XVa-uj8m there’s so much good stuff they’re willing to add their TVs as long as there’s a market for it-they won’t invest in new tech just to compete, they need to sell units. Sony is improving its LED tech to grab a bigger chunk of the growing LED TV market. It’s up to LG and Samsung to keep improving OLED efficiency till it reaches 4,000 nits, then there’s nothing left for OLED as a future tech. The next big push is for MicroLED-that’s where LG, Samsung, Apple and Sony are investing.
@@XVa-uj8m If the choice is between 12bit color and ATMOS I am taking ATMOS everytime.
While I believe large TVs are where sales will be going forward, I disagree that premium LED TVs are going to drive this. I work PT selling TVs on the weekends, and I see a ton of low and mid-tier 75 and 85 inch TVs go out the door. Note, I consider Sony X90L or Samsung Q80C and similarly priced TVs (TCL QM8, Hisense U8K) to be the top of the mid-tier. In other words, the LED TVs that are priced similarly to OLEDs aren't part of that.
I understand that anecdote is not data, but a number of my colleagues see the same thing. Most customers are buying LED TVs because they are not as expensive. When you show a customer a demo on an OLED, and then on a Full-Array TV they don't think the picture difference is worth $1000 (for 75 inch) or $2000-$3000 (for 85/85 inch).
The problems for me with Vision Pro are: you have to wear a device, you have to have a device for everyone in the family if you want to watch together, it's going to feel like you're watching TV alone even when you're with everyone, difficult communicating with another person.
Bought the Sony A95L along with klipsch speakers and a new sony 7.2 AV receiver and the Panasonic UB820 so I just started buying 4K Blu Rays and really like the extra resolution. Just bought Gladiator and The Fifth Element. Looking forward to expanding my 4K collection.
The Vison Pro is only comfortable for 20-30 mins at a time, no good for watching whole movies on.
@@Wobble2007 Thanks for info, another reason not to buy it.
@@carlcat It's great for tinkerers and people with the money to buy experimental tech, but it's years away from a useable consumer device, which will resemble a pair of normal glasses more so than a 80's cyberpunk movie prop.
@@carlcat4K Blu-ray discs are not about the resolution.
It's about the Video Bit Rate. 😎👍
Two different things.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M Thanks for info.
I looked all the new 4k releases on Amazon (germany). You are right. Most of theme are collectors edition. Limited prints. Mostly super old stuff only die hard collectors care. They charge 30 to 40 Euros. This is completely ridiculous..
100" U8K being delivered today...oled needs a major price adjustment to compete with the mini led tv's
For the 2024 model year, LG, Samsung and Sony all have very nice upgrades for the QD MiniLED TVs line-ups. WIth this said we'll also see nice enhancements in the 2024 WRGB OLED, MLA OLED and QD OLED displays. We'll have a lot of information to discuss the week of March 18th on al of the new 2024 TVs.
Do you happen to have an idea if Sony will have a 55” mini LED this year by any chance?
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@@lpromer4796 I'l be able to answer all questions no later than mid March. I'm still under the DNA.
@@valueelectronics9390 ok thanks for replying!
Big OLED displays are way to expensive
65" costs ~1000€ good price for the size and the better PQ compared to LCD
77" costs >2000€ (40% bigger than 65" by area but costs 100% more) -> good price would be 1500-1800€
83" costs >3000€ (20% bigger than 77" by area but costs 50% more) -> good price would be 2000-2200€
For me to consider the bigger sizes the price would need to be at the lower end of the range but I think consumers would also accept the upper estimates but not really more as for the current price of a 77" or 83" OLED we can get a 98" TCL and the immersive *SIZE beats PQ* advantage of OLED
EDIT: just checked more premium TVs and the OLEDs compete well against Samsung, Sony & Philips premium LCDs at current prices but would need my "good prices" to compete with TCL that just provides incredible value and is definitely above the "good enough" threshold for consumers to care more about size and price than PQ
those prices are very optimistic. 77" A95L still 4999 💀
@@TheAntifluencer I know they are very optimistic and won't happen but these are the numbers they need to hit to compete with the Chinese OEMs. Not on the A95/LG G series necessarily but the A80 or C series with conventional OLED should hit those prices or they'll continue to see declining sales.
FOMO you do such a good job bringing us display news. Nice to see you flex your copy of Pitch Black with the best audio. ❤ I picked up the Columbia Classics 4k box for Valentines Day
I honestly refuse to give Amazon another dollar. I won’t even allow them to make money off me via ad revenue.
They need to grandfather old users in OR give its customers the ability to only pay for Prime services they want.
Really great and honest video! What the average consumers need to hear. Especially when it comes to dollar per value.
Excellent show FOMO, thank you.
Good info 👍
Hi FOMO! What is your opinion on purchasing an extended warranty for an 85" QN90C or any large screen TV?
I currently have a plasma, WOLED, QDOLED and mini led tvs. Agree with your industry and consumer analysis. I think we are seeing the Hisense/TCL impact where for some of us consumers who are not videophiles, close enough in tech is completely fine if I can get a much larger screen. Inmho, manufacturers got caught up in the "perfect panel tech" chase where qdoled and the newer LG woled's live however mini led tech is still improving at a much lower cost allowing for affordable larger sizes. I am ok with a minimal amount of blooming and other minor issues if it means I can get a 98" that performs 90% of a 65/77" oled. Most consumers are looking for entertainment watching the shows not the black bars.
Fomo great episode! Samsung is not sold in Japan where I live. When I consider support Sony is the best option. I live in a 800 square foot apartment, and only one location for a TV, and 65 inch is the maximum size for the wall. I own near 2000 DVDs, and plan on upgrading to 4K. I have no subscriptions. I used AFN satellite TV, and Japanese broadcasting up to 4K. I have a 6.2.6 Sony sound system so I opted for the A95L, and I love the TV. Oh in Japan we can still rent DVD and Blu-ray like Blockbuster. The library also has DVD and Blu-ray to check out. We just watched 23 studio Ghibli movies. I am going to invest $1000 in top reviewed 4K Blu-ray after I have finally tweaked my home theater.
+1 on your Ghibli marathon! Also, I assume you mean the Panasonic UB9000 Blu ray player. If so, you will love it! A must for any video/audio enthusiast.
@@bearclaw5115 Models are bit different in Japan vs USA. I have the Sony Bravia XR 65A95L TV which I bought on a military base, but this TV is still not sold in Japan. This TV is a USA TV so I can not get local Japanese TV stations, and I need to use a power converter to boost up to 110V. I am buying Sony BDZ-FBT6100 6TB 3 Tuner, 4K Blu-ray Recorder, Supports 4K Broadcast Long Time Recording/W Recording (2021 Model) so I can watch broadcast NHK, and also record TV to DVD and Blu-Ray. The exchange rate between Yen and dollars in favorable now so I got this 4k Blu ray player for just over $1000. I still have not seen a Boy and the Heron, waiting for it to come out on bluray. Our Marathon was preparation for visiting Studio Ghibili Park outside Nagoya this last fall.
I watched the Super Bowl on my brand new 75 inch Hisense U8k. Even though it was not completely dialed in I really enjoyed it. I went back and forth between a C3 and the U8k. I went with the Hisense because I wanted a size upgrade within my budget and I knew I was getting a better picture than my 6 year old Qled. Maybe not oled level but I was still impressed with the U8k’s performance. A win and it cost 1200 Three hundred under budget.
Hi FOMO, EXCELLENT Video !!
Cost and Burn in are what hurts OLED growth. That is what kept me from going to OLED a few years ago, along with watching Sony LED and OLED side by side, yes the OLED was sightly better but not over a $1000 worth of better either. IMHO More affordable 27"-40" OLED TV/Monitors for PC and Console Gamers is a huge untapped market with pent up demand. Get em addicted to the small ones, folks will buy the big ones.
Adding WOLED to its Samsung product line will ONLY confuse consumers even more. Again, it goes to show that they don't really care about anything else other than money and profits. Amazon Prime video isn't all that great in general so not missing out on too much here. UHD4k Bluray players are too expensive for what they offer, and consumers have more options with digital content, so it's not a big surprise to expect loss of sales there. Apple Vision Pro's first version is ... just that, a first R&D version that they are making everyone pay; wait for the 2nd or 3rd version. I think the future is going to be a mix of both. I know for myself, I can only stand wearing a headset/goggles for a short period of time. Then, I prefer my sound system immersion and just my baseball cap on :)
Eeyore! Man you sound negative. 4k players are not necessarily expensive and I think you missed the fact reported in the video that 4k blu ray sales are UP! Not down as you claim.
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Oh snap, what was the “main meal”? lol I’m so hungry for a tuna on Rye bread with 3 dill pickles and a side of extra crispy onion rings… yummy 😊
If Samsung is betting on sales of TV's above 75" for their 2024 revenue targets they are already in very serious trouble. Sure, those TV's in that size make the headlines, but that's not where the VOLUME is. You know, the volume of sales that it takes for a company to actually hit their annual revenue targets? All you have to do is walk into any electronics store and watch what sizes of TVs actually go out the door each day. It's the 55", 65" and 75" models that make up the overwhelming majority of sales today. Sure, some 85" and 98" units go out the door too, but only a VERY small fraction the weeks sales volume is made up of those. Most stores might sell one 85" TV every four days, if that. They might sell one 98" TV every month. If Samsung thinks they are going to make their annual numbers on sizes above 75" in 2024 then they have already missed the mark. I don't care how much you discount those super-large screens, most customer simply do not have the room to put one of those in their house. And, even if they did, the woman of the house would very likely put her foot down and say, "Oh, HELL no! Not in MY house!"
Great video, but can you turn up your volume up some please
I think the king of sports TVs this year will be Samsung 8K with their new motion AI and their 8K upscaling and MiniLED brightness. It likely will look really good watching NFL, NHL, MLB, NBA and so on. Because sports don't have any extreme contrast differences it's one APL and one "scene" with a lot of back and forth motion. So crystal clear image and excellent motion and bright image is absolute king in watching sports.
Other than that simple a giant TV is also great for watching sports.
Only if they put a chip that can handle 8k. They been cheap and putting the same chip as the 4k flagship, and guess what, the 4k tv's than beat the 8k since the chip has to drive 4 times less pixels.
@@deanwilliams433Didn’t you hear the news on the qn900D 8K tv for 2024? It has a new chip exclusively for it that isn’t available in any of their other models.
@@cadebeek3111 I'll wait for the reviews. Also, pricing has to be right. People want size and days of selling 85" TV's for 7-10k are over.
I’m very excited for the new QN900D in the 85” & 98” sizes
98" is definitely interesting if the cost is under 9k
Where are the bigger homes 🏡 and apartments coming from to justify 80 to 100 inch TVs 📺? 😳
10:40 Your head really pops out in my QD-OLED FOMO! 👏 Your video quality is awesome! 🙂
It’s a shame, I always told myself that I was going to invest in 0LED tech when it advanced more, but it never did, it advanced as much as the TVs around it, advanced, processing, better, color, and motion, handling, improve gaming features. All TVs have advanced in this way since 2018, oh lead has been the only one that has only advanced a little bit in picture, the HDR revolution has changed the course of mini LED that’s for sure
Except for sports, I almost stream everything, and yes OLED has proved its value, there is a lot of HDR and Dolby vision content.
Besides sports, 80% of the content really is noticeably much better then without OLED.
In the Netherlands mostly older people still watch cable.
That's another brand off my wish list.
I don't want a 75" or more TV, so i will wait for hopefully a brand from Japan to offer what i want
not what they think i want!
Since i have to repair these monster sized TV's from Korea nad worse still China, just keep on making them
and keep me in a job
Regarding the pitch black DVD. What was the difference between thebone based out of Germany vs USA? Is this the only place to buy this 4k dvd?
My QM8 85-INCH made my over the air superbowl experience incredible.
Too many people sleep on the QM8. I also have an 85 QM8, and it's been my favorite television that I have ever owned. Once I dialed in the picture, people were blown away when they visited.
I agree. The blacks are so close to OLED its hard to justify the premium for a 77" OLED
@deanwilliams433 yeah I'm impressed. I have an OLED in the other room and the QM8 is sooooo close
Samsung should put built in sound bar as tv stand since they running out of gimmicks about brightness.
I assume the DVD can be played in the north American region
Saw it buddy 😊
The biggest seller will be U8N from Hisense, this will be the Quest 3 equivalent of Tvs. QN900D samsung will have a market but think they have put the technology beyond reach like AVP...
Fomo pls review the Samsung 900d 75 in 8k tv!
I have a 65 inch s90b and I’m thinking of buying a 77 inch either this year or next year and it will be a oled from Samsung again
Wait, so Samsung and Sony are moving away from OLED? This is like Plasma all over again.
Oled will go the way like plasma. LCD will be here with us for a long time.
@@aquaneon8012 god I hope you’re wrong my friend!
Well then I’m glad I managed to snag a couple of oleds before that happens.
OLED is at the point where getting any brighter rapidly increases the chance of burn in. LCD’s can keep adding more and more dimming zones and maintain higher brightness, making it still a great choice for dark rooms
its business man, these companies need to survive. you look at tcl and hisense and they are doing just fine selling "ok" large format LCD displays and making a profit. Like fomo said the 5 year deal with samsung and LG is to try and grow the oled brand. The hope of this is to grow the oled brand and make cheaper oleds more common to the average consumer. All in all you can make bigger cheaper and good looking LCD TV's that the avg consumer will buy...think about it sell a 85" or 98" lcd tv for $2000 or $3000 or a 65" and 77" oled for $1500 or $3000
I stream and want to watch that stuff on OLED as some shows I like don't have physical sadly.
Why have "good enough" image quality. I really don't like that type of thinking. That is like saying we don't need more CPU or GPU performance either or anything.
Progress in tech needs to always go forward.
Yes more nits does matter. 4,000 nits is only twice as bright as 1,000 nits. Also these 4,000 nits TVs are not really 4,000 nits. At D65 they drop quite a lot also these are still OLED so they cannot sustain high nits if the panel starts to heat up. Heat is the OLED killer.
Which is why Sony and I think even Samsung now have temp measurements in real time inside the panel and they use that for how to best operate it and when they ABL it etc.
The G4 is interesting but I don't think I will ever go with OLED. I don't like the drawbacks. I want IN-organic "O"LED.
MiniLED isn't perfect, but it's getting darn close to rivalling OLED even on it's own "turf" so to speak. Outside of that it's already better.
Big mistake from electronics manufacturer is to believe that always pleasing tech nerds and such will result in sales. The majority of buyers are interested in perceived value, brand recognition and bling bling that impresses the neighbour.
I HATE that the 42 inch s90D won't have a qd OLED panel.
Of LG and Samsung partner can we expect Samsung to have Dolby Vision w the partnered displays? I assume not as Samsung and Dolby don't have an agreement in place.
i have LG OLED C2 48 inches for My PlayStation 5. i will only buy an LG OLED in my Life whenever i need My Next TV. 😊
Same
Fomo u should do another part to ur atmos video u made awhile back. Is atmos worth it.
Watching on my 89c was great except that it was on a firestick not capable of 4k which affected the bitrate. Doh!
I bought it mostly for gaming and man its an experience! I'll stream on it too though.
Gaming on qd oled is fantastic
Just think for 5 bucks per TV for Dolby Vision, they'd recoup that money from people who go for TV's who cover all formats.
Where do people put these giant TVs? My 55in barely fit in my tiny condo.
In living room
U still new a video of ur home theater
I'm will be please with a 100 inches tv from reputable manufactures like Sony, LG, Samsung with good contrast and colors for less than 3,000 us dollars , the most important things for me today is feel INMERSE !!
All about cost. OLED is not cheap. No question OLED has a superior picture. I bought LCD, LED, and now Mini LED for all my TV's. Zero regrets and don't have to worry about burn in on an expensive purchase. I will gladly give up inky blacks for peace of mind. I totally understand why people prefer OLED, but not me. I have no fear leaving the TV on all day with scrolling banners or TV logos if I want.
LCD, LED, and Mini LED are all still LCD TV's.
They're not 3 different display technologies. LCD is a panel type. LED and Mini LED are backlight types.
Good points
Burn in is not really a thing anymore.
I would pay not to have the TV on all day😊
Oled is just too expensive for the average person. The economy is mediocre and paying 2k plus for an oled makes no sense when you can pay 500-1000 and get a nice big qled that looks great from hisense or tcl amongst others. I had planned on buying a new tv for the living room this year but money is tighter than usual and our q85a still looks fantastic. I’m very tempted to jump on the s89c 77” for 1799.thats a great deal!
With streaming being such a shit show and being clamped down on so hard, whilst it's not making the companies as much money as they like, I'm not surprised selling 4K discs should be a valid option.
Sometimes they're greed gets the better of them, when just giving people something they can use works for everybody.
Vision Pro is great from a UI standpoint and it has great hardware, but you can get similar functionality for about a third the cost. I've been using VR headsets since the HMZT one theater on your face in 2011. It's amazing for cross talk free 3-D movies, but the Vision Pro has the same problems as all Apple devices do, namely being locked down
I'm glad. Come on Samsung give us great huge inexpensive TV's ‼️😁😎
I’m one of those idiots that buys uhd Blu-rays. I have probably 400 plus and I own 3 different 4k players including the very first one released by Samsung. I’m not paying extra for prime. I’ll probably cancel it like I did HBO max. HBO isn’t worth 19.99 a month. I’ll get it again when house of the dragon season 2 comes out. These streaming companies are getting greedy and the best thing we can do is cancel our subscription when they want to charge more for less.
Why are you wearing glasses without lenses?
15% increase of 4k Disc sales in an overall shrinking physical media market is not very much. 4k for sure is the new milking cow. Oppenheimer 4k disc (bundle) is 25 Euros, Blu-ray is 16 Euros. Prices up. "Collectors" are a special kind of breed.. They buy editions and often dont even open them. If these are the new target customers it is for sure over with mass market blu-rays..
Samsung would really mess up if in the S90D they will have a panel lottery with lets say 55,65,77 of whether you get QD or WOLED panel. That would be an unmitigated disaster since they have huge discrepancy in performance.
Technically they should just do QDOLED in S95D series and WOLED in S90D series across the board. Simplicity and a clear performance difference. Same thing Sony does.
The Superbowl is 3 - 4 hours or content a year. I think the other 500+ hours of content watched in a year is more important. TV show, Movies, etc.. For those, picture quality is king. OLED is where it's at. Especially for night time viewing.
Mostly I watch my rip 4k bulray movies way more than streaming .
Mobile Display is where the changes are it's them moving to eighth Gen manufacturing. Very misleading my friend or you are misreading the news release.
Running a whole Sonos Atmos system with my 77-in C2. Disagree about the arc and era 300s not producing good atmos. They produce great atmos in the right shows. Annoyed that Amazon has not only introduced ads but also taken away atmos and vision.
100 foot TV? How would I even get that in my front door?
I’d much rather have the soap opera experience than the 24 frame rate stutter. Think of the sound of music and that vast expanse of mountains. As the scene pans, the stutter is annoying. Why is this considered acceptable in the film industry?
I am trying to buy physical as much as possible FOMO. I will buy on 4K if it isn't FAKE 4K. So many newer films were shot on that ARRI that is 3.3K. You want real 4K buy the stuff shot on 35 mm.
Can Apple Vision Pro even MATCH the BR or 4K bandwidth and does it include Lossless audio? I would pay $20 a month for a Mubi experience with that level of quality.
edit: FOMO can I shut off HFR? I saw "Gemini Man" and HATE HFR!!!!! It feels like that "Stop Motion" feature we HATE on TV and turn it off. I will just take my movies at 24 FPS.
I think people are starting to realize how much OLED has convinced them to invest in a product that was plasma based, based meaning it was never meant to be improved on a vast level like standard LCD/LED was, and still is the average consumer is not worried about size. The average consumer is to read about how to invest their money properly in a technology that will not be limited in the next 3 to 4 years, this has happened before, with the first generation of Blu-ray, look like a weird floppy disc, Betamax, and so on, and so forth plasma TVs. They were hot for about a minute pun intended, I think OLED is about to be phased out as I have been predicting for the past 6 to 7 years, look at the example Sony is showing, Hollywood producers need a TV that can stab handle HDR at 1000 to 2000 nits at full field, not for 3 to 2 seconds as all lead tech does. It complicates the HDR reference when a TV cannot sustain the brightness, it needs, mini LED is the future, Sony will make sure of that, not a big fan of them but at least they’re waking up to the idea that OLED tech maybe only for the niche
My Next TV will be no less than 75" but I WANT a 83" or 85" TV. I may have to go Mini LED because the price of OLED at that size is in general, Way More than an equivalent sized Mini LED.
But I still want a GOOD quality picture. I will see what is going on in 2025. I will upgrade in 2025
15:00 /me saving every dollar in Amazon stock, crying...
Companies don't have to be your enemies... Just own the stock....
theyl call it qqoled or something new “we promise it wont burn in after youre 1 year warranty pls buy our 2800$ tv”
Samsung seriously needs to support Dolby Vision. I don't see how anybody can justify paying top dollar for a QN900D without it when a $2000 100 inch tv has it. It's not acceptable
Maybe sony and Samsung realize that oled reach there limitations they run out of ideas. samsung last ace is micro LED.
I don't know, FOMO. It seems like any tech that requires people to wear something is doomed. 3D at home was so good at the end of its lifetime with lightweight, passive 3D glasses on an OLED screen, and the format still died. Not enough people will adopt VR or AR headsets, no matter how good, cheap, and lightweight Apple or other companies make it. I don't mind if I am eating my words in a few years, but at this time, I think it would be foolish to ignore history, and recent history at that. (3D was still being pushed hard less than 10 years ago!)
As a proud 77 inch QD-OLED owner, should we be worried about Samsung giving up on support their gorgeous displays? such as no more or firmware updates or nerfing the updates perhaps?
Samsung does not change direction. They simply don’t have any direction.
Dude obsessed with size much?? And the sentence you cherry picked the 75” or larger segment out of also contains the words QLED and OLED all part of the same message as they are separated by commas and the word “and” within the same sentence. I don’t disagree that you should buy the largest but also most practical TV for your own use case. Just having a 100-115” tv available doesn’t automatically make it the right choice though. I refuse to keep up with the Jone’s just for the sake of keeping up with the Jone’s. But then a couple weeks ago it was “4000 nits, 4000 nits, 4000 nits”, now it’s “bigger, bigger,bigger” . Always something new to FOMO about 😂😂
Vision Pro is not the future! No one will wear glasses to watch movies. Also the screen is very close to you eyes, which will make your eyes go bad. If you want better image quality just buy a 42 inch oled and move closer to the screen.
No one will ever have a phone in his pocket with computational capabilities far greater than the one who landed men on the Moon!!!
Ya'll know the A95M and S95E are coming next year, lmao. calm your tits everyone.
This year is a "weaker" year for Oled, doesn't mean that Doomsday is near.
10:00 yea... honestly A95L is already damn near perfect, will be sufficient 5 years from now still.
The average consumer OLEDs are a non-starter. High- end LEDa are also a non-starter. Samsungs crystal series sell more then the rest of their lineup combined. No one watxhing these video would even dare buy those TVs. Thats the reality of the situation.
So sad no 83” and 97” QD-OLED!! Who cares about the sports movie is what OLED was made for!
83 Sony QD Oled for 10k, 97 Sony QD Oled would be 80k
I'am sure you can afford either (or both) of them.
"is it a 98" TV or an OLED". Like that is the only options lol. You OLED lovers have to get out of that denial that people buy OLED. They don't the OLED market is shrinking and not increasing.
Hence why LG and Samsung looking to the PC monitor market for OLED.
People are buying MiniLED, normal size and larger. TCL and Hisense are capitalizing on that like crazy. But yes more will buy the really big ones because they cost so little with some models now.
3D Tvs will make a comeback before Vision Pro is the future of home cinema viewing. 😂. Vision Pro doesn't pass the gf/wife test.
Dolby has failed in an epic way with Dolby Vision. It provides no improvement in experience and sometimes a worse experience vs HDR10/10+. Why should anyone pay their licensing fees for this junk that no one uses correctly?
i agree.. but i dont understand why samsung took out dts since 2018. lg took out dts in 2020 but put it back on their 2023 models.
I'm just here to watch the fanboys freak out that people aren't buying oleds. I noticed LG isn't giving so many tvs to UA-camrs anymore
Fomo I beg to differ with u. I have an LG lcd and an OLED in my place. We mostly watch UA-cam and other OTT movies only andnyet the PQ and upscaling on the OLED is far superior even for mediocre content.
Altough I do agree mostly with your point, I really think OLED users are more widespread than they seem and according to your points, that comes mostly because I don't agree streaming isn't a usecade that benefits from OLED. Not at all, in fact I know it most definitely does! Honestly I consider myself very critical of quality and people in my life comain about that because I'm always complaining about things not being as good as I think they should or messing with settings and installing new things to make what we already have look, sound or just work better. But I'm absolutely perfectly happy with streaming quality on most streaming platforms. I mean UA-cam is pretty bad but mostly I'm watching content creators with bright images all the time so the bitrates isn't usually a problem but really any movies and TV shows platforms have absolutely fine bitrates over streaming on TVs. I would only make a point against streaming from PCs that does indeed show compression artifacts on dark scenes but on TV apps it's absolutely fine. And TV shows and movies tend to have a Lot of dark scenes where the OLED benefit shines through, so people that like to watch series would be OLED consumers if they both new about the advantages and it was in their price range.
Stop alienating your viewers.
I disagree on your DV comments. DV significantly improves watched content on ANY TV. On Good and Great TV improves greatly on not so god TVs still improves up from the original content in none DV. DV is a must today as well as Dolby Atmos
I can’t name one person that I know that actually watches movies on a 4K Blu-ray, everyone just streams.
That's because you don't know any Videophiles.
That's fine but they obviously exist. I'm one of them. I have a large 4K Blu-ray disc collection and a Panasonic UB9000 4K Blu-ray player.
People can afford this crap got bills pay more important thing to buy
At the end of the day LCD just looks cheap and nasty, there is simply no comparison, QDOLED and mla OLED looks miles better any day....
I think samsung is trash. I have lg sony samsung and the samsung broke first. Just like there 4k player had problems samsung tv's are junk. Customer service sucks. They were a middle brand before 2014 brand I feel they will be put back in that place soon. Sharp is back. I have 2 oled screens in my house. Quality will always cost more.
Also this was a second to highest tier screen from samsung at $3000 I paid new.
I agree FOMO...they're overrated, overhyped nuances of video and sound. Don't bite the rice-cake bait and be a sucker.
Bla bla bla , and what ? oled will suffer the same fate as plasma , becouse poor rich people prefer to buy cheap shitty big screen instead best performance tech ????? WTF , this world must fall 😫
You asked our tv habits. Yea 4K Blu-ray’s are INCREDIBLE but!!…. Even when streaming it’s still a better picture on an OLED. Are you saying only buy OLED if your a Blu-ray fanatic otherwise it makes no difference at all??? That’s a really stupid statement and doesn’t help the OLED argument at all. Which makes me wonder, do you want to see OLED fail??? Also WAY easier to dim an OLED at night and still have the best picture. Dimmer screens at night boost melatonin levels. Which over years of NIGHTIME exposure can either increase or decrease your life based off measuring your true biological age.
You say drop price by dropping MLA, fine but can you please explain to use why they cannot compete with size for size??? What is it that’s makes it so hard to create bigger oleds? There’s no backlight so it’s already half the energy of led. And they have infinite contrast. I’ve been watching your videos and everyone else’s for years and have yet to hear an explanation why a 98 inch OLED is 30,000$. What are the profit margins on that tv? Most of us assume LGs taking home 60% profit margins and laughing all the way to the bank. That’s how our heads justify saying hell no although all of us would love to have that tv. But 30,000$ might as well be the 100,000$ microled. Especially on a budget. I was within 5,000 of my budget with my car and mortgage of being able to actually spend 25K for that tv and I tried and tried to rearrange the budget so I could take out anouther loan. Just wasn’t possible.
Oled consumes more power than lcd according to rtings.
Uhhh god, sports. I get it we gotta look at the numbers. But can we try to remember half the film makers in Hollywood are gay and care about movies not sports. How do I know it’s half. Because I’m in LA and I ummm let’s say have have slumber party sleepovers 😂 with all of them. Sports 🤮🤮🤮 Kryptonite.