Back in the 1990s, when the .50 snipers during Desert Storm were coming out, someone mentioned at the end of the article that they talked to a student of micro-electronics, and his area of research was to make a laser guided round accurate out past 5 miles. Looks like they did it
@@comfortablynumb9342 AT LEAST. What we see is usually about 20 years behind ACTUAL application. The theories and experimentation is probably at least 30 or more years past. Even after the announcement, there's a lot they still don't tell us.
Looks like you bought the clickbait fella. Lol. There is no current small arms ammunition that can accurately fire out past 2 miles and that's the most extreme circumstance (99.99% of shots are happening wayyyy closer than that). The EXACTO ammunition that you see here is only accurate to about 2000 yards. DARPA has been working on it. Not your friend Steve that works at Lowes. But hey tell us more about how you want to feel important on the internet because your life has no meaning outside of validation on UA-cam comments. Love you.
@@Bl00dCrown So your whole purpose is to go around and put down people who talk about subjects. Sounds like you're the one needing validation. Go smoke another one, bro
I went through Artillery school in 1977. If you had told me then we'd have a CEP with a 155mm round marked in the single digit of meters I would have laughed in your face. Now we have first-round kill shot accuracy with the Excalibur. I admit I'm just as skeptical about this, but every year we get closer to the Zorg ZF-1 Pod Weapon.
As a former Ammunition Specialist [55B] we had to identify over 100 different types of ammunition in order to pass advanced individual training. That was '98, and nothing back then is even remotely close to the technology today. For example, the capabilities of the Hellfire missiles I worked with are almost bottle rockets compared to the ones they're testing now, with 3x's the range.
Now, they only have to name ANY 63 of the 201 Genders and then they are experts no matter what their Area of Expertise...DEI is the ONLY thing that matters in the NEW ARMY! Wee Hee.....not HOORAH!
@@HaraldHofer Technically an arrow is a missile, you mean it's a rocket. Projectile and Missile are used interchangeably, its the means of propulsion (I think) that you are pointing out. Whereas conventional projectiles are propelled via a charge at the origin point (Chamber) and propel the projectile a set distance and only along a specific pre-deterimined trajectory. These new projectiles seem to have a propulsion system of their own which they maintain after exiting the barrel of the weapon. A "Rocket Propelled Projectile" or "Rocket Propelled Missile" maybe. In any case I'm sure most of us understand what you meant. :p
@@MishaDark no, it's not: "A missile has a guidance system - after it is launched, its trajectory and impact point can be changed mid-flight. A rocket, on the other hand, is directed based upon how much propellant is available and the elevation of the rocket launcher."
I wonder how this technology combines with the Army's new XM-157 battle scope for rifles. The scope gives the correct holdovers for distance, etc, but it looks like this bullet can also help compensate as well - probably improving overall accuracy when the two systems are combined.
The XM157 was built to work specifically with the new 6.8x51 in the XM5. This ammunition however can go far beyond laser range finding and assisted holdover calculating. They do mention its a .50 caliber bullet which would likely be in an anti-material rifle (like a Barrett) and would need some system running simultaneously, while its airborne, to redirect its path. That is what this video fails to explain. Probably because its extremely complicated DARPA tech and still confidential.
@@martincarter8312 not exactly true. Any data from any rifle setup or caliber can be input into the scope in order to be used with units not using the M5. Watch GarandThumb’s video on the XM-157, they go into decent depth
The computer mock-up at 3:22 is somewhat naïve as it shows the electronics in the case as well as the projectile. Total rookies always seem to think the bullets come of a barrel looking exactly like they did when they were loaded into the breach...
I remember when I was a kid in the 80s/90s, my dad got Popular Science/Mechanics/Electronics magazines. I remember an issue with a blurb about smart bullets. The diagram showed a regular-ish bullet, except it was two segments connected in the middle with a ball joint. The entire projectile would bend one way or the other to steer. Perhaps the EXACTO rounds don't actually use fins at all.
Oh man, as a kid I LOVED Popular Science and Mechanics magazines. I don't seem to remember Popular Electronics. This was the eighties, when there was actually bookstores, and ten year old me would get to pick out a couple of magazines to buy. One of them was always a Popular Science or Mechanics. The articles were fascinating, but almost equally as interesting to me were the advertisements in the back. Plans to build your own gyro copter, go cart, hydro plane boat, Ham radios and so much more. Those magazines blew my mind!
@@rickjames8317 I'm with you on that when you're young and your mind is still empty and looking for ways to fill it might go to magazine and let your imagine grow wild 👍
Someone has been watching the Tom select film from 1984 runaway. Check it out it has a self guided bullet and a camera in it locks on to its target and you can't escape it it can even be pre programmed to recognise the target.
My guess, is without external fins, it most likely could be the use of micro actuator weights, able to move in vertical, horizontal or diagonal...or even in a rotational direction. Pretty sophisticated sensors would be needed in order to do this while monitoring spin.
panels would be my bet. slide open revealing an opening to a hole behind the bullet, to induce a disruption in the low pressure wake of the bullet, altering course. Weights make more sense if accounting for spin, unless this is a single gimbaled high actuation rate panel.
I think you are right, my guess would be no protrusions(aka: fins). I am betting a freely spinning internal flywheel forward or aft of CG that has modulated braking (thus imparting a tangential force) would likely do the trick along with the gun providing remote commands over RF.
This gets scary as hell when you start to imagine this tech on a drone. Once it's out in the wild all bets are off. It will get into the hands of those that may want to point it right back.
Right? I'm fascinated by the tech, science and engineering here, but... What an ugly and fucked future this kind of thing implies... (Queue: Louis Armstrong - What A Wonderful World.)
I think the bullet is steered using a contra table band that runs around the center of the projectile. If one side or sides contracts, it alters the air’s path around the bullet, allowing the bullet to move in real-time based on its target. The more interesting uses are the potentially non lethal kinds. Use a projectile that has an onboard tranquilizer or high voltage package to put down targets without hitting bystanders or hit everyone and sort them out later. Very interesting in policing applications potentially
That makes sense, but you're missing one big issue here....... Bullets don't fly in a flat path, they spiral. THOUSANDS of times per second. Compensating for that alone is an engineering feat by itself. So now, there's been an additional gyroscope added to the mix for stability/orientation means.
@@Another_Saved_Sinner a bullet does spin, but this may not be a bullet in the traditional sense or the middle of the bullet, where the control surfaces are, doesnt spin, just the nose and tail end
Eh.... I would not give that round to the police or trust them enough to use them as they are supposed to. You are talking about law enforcement who was caught many times through out the last 5yrs shooting people in the face with rubber bullets and teargas canisters.
@@TheSLOShadow Still living in world of delusion. If it’s so often, please link me out. Especially over the supposedly “5 year” span. Only thing you’d be able to show as proof is during the riots that caused untold damages, & even death themselves that we for sure know of. C’mon Chaz, let’s see it…
As a military firearms technician since 1968, I have my own thoughts on advanced SAA. FSDS Guided flechettes would need to be fired from a smooth bore weapon or the fins will be unable to guide them, and that would require a specialist barrel, possibly tapered to give hyper-speed as well as distance. If you use a rifled barrel it is conceivable that you can utilise the spin and a shifting centre of mass to guide the bullet, although you would need to factor in distance because the changes could be minute if you don’t want the round to tumble in flight. As to steerage, you would need laser light sensitive pixels to pick up reflected laser from the target and translate the offset into direction, as already happens with LGBs… Like all directed weapons, laser tracking is sensitive to rain, fog, smoke or dust degrading the laser beams.
Small bands with different levels of wind resistance could be used to steer a projectile like this. If one side of the band has a golf ball like divot and the other side is completely flush. Then there would only need to be a mechanism inside of the bullet that rotates the bands to put them in the correct orientation for a given change in trajectory.
The round is a sabot round with a microscopic software defined gyro sensor, which is capable of reducing or in increasing the rotation, which can be utilized to steer the round, by either releasing for withholding the control for reduced spin or increased spin…and this also works to increase or decrease speed…and on simulation this round could extend to a distance of 3+ miles on a .50 cal standard load.
Yes, I saw it demonstrated in the late 90s with the first 2 or 3 mm of the bullet head that could pivot which would steer it and it had four small holes on the back end of it, which were rocket thrusters which would fire in pairs, to enhance range and help overcome downrange atmospheric conditions. And the whole bullet was the same size as a 50 caliber.
Was there a mechanical firing mechanism for the steering rockets? Or was it electronic? I'm very intrigued by this, and I'm still wondering if it's possible as shown here
I saw a similar idea put into place with a sighting system that calculated the target’s trajectory and turns green when you are aiming at the correct point of fire. It was used for vermin hunting and was very effective
How it works is pretty complex, but breaks down to the same method used for cat toy balls... those kind that wander around randomly. By shifting components within the round in flight the spin characteristics would be used to modify the trajectory of the round though the degrees of movement would be pretty modest - pretty much like trying to park a battleship using only the props and no rudder.
Engineers at Auburn U. did early work on this project over a decade ago and had developed working prototypes of these guided bullets. Ft. Benning just an hour from A.U. and worked with the scientists. I don't know if this bullet by Darpa is same program or not.
As noted elsewhere, the only explanation is that (unless this is all fake vaporware) the bullet uses inertia (a gyroscope) to steer. You would just need a small weight inside the projectile that can be moved off center. Then you would need extremely precise sensors and extremely precise motors to synchronize this with bullet spin. If you can move the counterweight around much more rapidly than the spinning motion, bullet spin is not an apriori obstacle to solving this. Possible? Maybe just. But certainly extremely expensive. I do not think the bullet will have any sensors other than accelerometers, i.e. it determines its position and it is programmed for where it needs to go when fired. In addition there could be a radio receiver to receive position updates sent from the rifle scope, but in this case I expect you run into problems with antenna size and power source, plus the system would be open to jamming. As long as you just fire at targets moving at constant speed (as in all the examples shown) you would not (in principle) need to interact with the bullet after it is fired, it could just "blindly" try to hit the point it was told to hit, but you could not account for unexpected movement of the target.
Yep I understand the workings of bullets the spin on the bullet the tip moving to one side would unbalance the bullet . And steering fins on a spinning bullet just does not seem a probable solution . I may be wrong
Well. Part of sniper training is proper form to stay relatively on target after firing. So odds are the sniper guides it themselves. But drones for ballistic shots over groups of buildings would be a ruthless and effective use
It'll be more than sniper use - a drone or other means (satellite) will spot and tag targets and then hundreds of rounds will be fired and directed to their targets from above and behind their cover, effectively negating or severely diminishing the effectiveness of foxholes, defilades, and other means of protection.
At the range of 10 miles, I think this is when a rocket powered bullet, like with the GyroJet, would be smart. A small solid rocket motor igniting after the first 4 or 5 miles could be extremely useful to add the necessary velocity to stay lethal. I don't see what might propel this bullet to go out this far and keep enough velocity to stay lethal, unless it's at least a 20mm round.
@Joel N out all the ppl i have taught to shoot the ones who picked it up the best were younger girls and women, the guys were always cocky and thought they knew it all. started with a .22 at 50m the to my .308 with subs at 200, then the .308 at 740m then 1210m some guys couldn't do it, every woman was doing it within the hour. ( yes i did the dope and calculations for all of them). so how about you get out there and become a elr shooter and a sniper in the military and tell us how you go
@Joel N or are you on about how women cant be shooters, my mother was a state champ and my auntie went all over the world competing won a few golds in the world masters games. but that cant be real can it. or the female snipers in ww2. nope that cant be a thing either can it. quit trolling mate it makes you look like an idiot
my thinking is maybe it uses an internal motor to spin wheels inside of itself to change the attitude of the bullet, and therefore the aerodynamics around it and where it goes. no idea how rotation is managed though
Longest shot to date worldwide is over 4 miles & it's taken with "conventional" ammo, as in no smart tech in the ammo itself. While it's not 10 miles, it is most impressive... also, at a range of 10 miles & given the ballistic drop compensation, it becomes an indirect fire weapon at that point sort of like crossing between howitzer over to a mortar, but definitely not a sniper by any means
Very true. I've already heard of these and they say that the farther away it is (within reason) the more accurate it is as it has more time to adjust. I imagine once the lock on they likely start by somewhat lobbing the shot at an upwards angle as is done with artillery.
You're sure it's over 4 miles? I was pretty certain it was over 4 kilometers, but not over 6 kilometers like you quoted. Mind you, the previous record was just a little over 2,5 kilometers so the new record increasing it by another kilometer and a half is already an amazing feat.
I always mix up kilometers and miles. I also wish the US would have just adapted to metric system. I mean it just makes so much more sense. So much easier to crunch metric numbers. Plus I worked as a carpenter for many years and it's ridiculous having to calculate fractional inches converted to decimal numbers off the top of your head. It would have saved me from countless paper and pen calculations. :)
You'd be amazed at what a low khz 10000 watt burst can do to even shielded electronics. A focused beam could take out electronics from further than 10 miles. It will become a stealth battle..
Reminds me of the scene in The Fifth Element when Zorg demonstrated the target-seeking bullets from his multi-weapon (the one with the red button) to the Mangalores
not sure if its just an effect of the video to highlight the bullet or not, but it looks to me like the bullet uses some type of thruster to alter its trajectory and probably to aid in its velocity as the actual cartridge has only around 30% of the grain due to the bullet taking up more space. Im not a rocket scientist or anything but Im willing to bet that changing the trajectory of a bullet mid-air would only take a small amount of force, so my geuss is the bullet might have a slow-burning propellet inside of it (possibly even the type used in those model rockets) that can be released from some ports of somekind on the side of the bullet., kind of like what rockets and satellites do in space to steer and stay in orbit. This approach though of course has the drawback of limited control range, I.E. once the fuel runs out the bullet can no longer be controlled. there's also the possibility that the bullet is controlled mechanically which would greatly improve its effective range. However, the video states that the bullet does not use fins to control its trajectory. If the bullet is mechanical, my initial thought was it uses some type of reaction wheel system, but the more I think about that the more far-fetched it seems. It is possible that the bullet simply uses a small weight that can be shifted around on the inside of the bullet, changing its center of mass which would alter the path of the bullet. IDK though this is all just speculation Im no engineer these are just my shower thoughts lol.
I remember something about some sort of smart bullet a long time ago, possibly IR homing, but from what I remember it steered by turning an off centre weighted tip as the bullet was spinning.
I'm still waiting on the bullets with cameras in them. They've been advertising them for a while now but I haven't seen them trickle down to the public.
The new thing is pistol mounted, 'badge cams' that record when you start firing. I've seen a Police shootout on a minivan using one was like a first person shooter.
Around 4km is actually the ideal range. Remember what the longest unguided sniper shots have been. Over a mile or two. Now that but consistent. Because close range the round is traveling way too fast to make rapid course corrections, and snipers are trained to keep the target in scope while the round travels as best as possible. Meaning with the km to miles conversion 4km is nearly perfect range for these
And yet...The Chinese fired what?, when...and then? Archers at your ramparts...used to be said! Then...Time. And one said (Oppenheimer), "I have become the destroyer of worlds". This is our fate. Aquarius commeth, wiped again, and start anew. What will archialogist's say hovering over your bones as they dig?. One thing they might..."hey, these are radioactive!", "what gives?". "He had what appears to be copper pennies around his neck", he must be royalty😂
It would have to be a large round to handle the guidance system and propellants. You would need enough mass left to penetrate body armor. The latter might be the big hurdle to overcome.
@@crustyroach6921 I would say being hit by a .50 round ensures lethality. The survivors are the ones who suffer psychologically until it is their time.
This is the tech from the old Tom Selleck movie called Runaway..Where Gene Simmons shoots bullets that are programmed to target a specific person's heat signature and turn as if flies.. Summary tech is gunna make things crazy quick.
At 10 miles or 16 km a target on ground level is 20 m below the horizon. This means you have to be at least 20 m high from the ground to have a line of sight. The temperature has to be relatively low and the air calm to see the target.
I'm trying to figure out how they could shoot a projectile like that with a standard rifled barrel. I feel like in order to have the fins be able to orient the bullet in the air, the projectile would have to not be spinning. The gun itself would have to have a smooth bore and potentially be its own proprietary chambering. Especially if you have to cram all the moving parts and electronics into such a tiny package. It would be like a scaled down Abrams tank cannon. Assuming it were laser guided, I'm just thinking about how you could have a spotter close to the target with a laser designator and then have the actual sniper miles away. It literally would be like calling in a tiny artillery strike.
Maybe a gyro inside the round stabilizes the round, no rifling. Direction might be changed by changing the axis in relation to the round's axis. IDK, shooting in the dark.
@Randall Reese Keep those skills handy, when their battery dies or their microprocessor dies they won't be able to hit anything, you on the other hand will!
Looks kind of like a gyrojet style rocket powered projectile. The IR photo seems to show something shooting out the back/propelling the bullet. If I had to guess it's a miniature rocket that can be chambered into a 50 caliber rifle. Since it wouldn't need the standard casing and propellant, the whole bullet/rocket would be about 5.5 inches long. Still a miniature guided munition but sounds like the marketing is trying to make people believe the projectile is the size of a .50 bullet (around 2 inches). Just my guess though.
That's a possibility. They didn't show the SHOOTER for those demonstration shots, just "regular" snipers firing. If it's essentially a mini guided missile the recoil would probably be roughly the same as a 7.62/.308 making it much easier to stay on target.
It's a tracer round. I dumped plenty of them downrange when I served. And that's very similar to what they look like viewing through night vision goggles.
That cut in half bullet is from the movie "Runaway" with Tom Selleck, but that fact isn't mentioned here. Why? Steering a bullet using fins at that speed? That is like steering a loaded semi with 50 mp/h through a 45 degree curve. Saw something similar many years ago. Never heard of it since.
I would beg to differ on how much bullets have changed since their conception. Firing cap, powder charge, rim fire, extruded rod propellant, center fire, black powder, smokeless powder, etc. We’ve had so many changes to bullets that I can’t say they’ve not changed much. The first patent for a cartridge was 1840, but the first concept was much earlier, though unsuccessful.
I handload,and find it hard to believe that any type of technology can be implemented into a bullet,that can withstand the force and pressure,to still be able to hit its intended target at 10 miles away. Isn’t SAAMI specs set at 65,000 psi.
You can’t fathom it, but we’ve already done it. The problem is protecting the circuitry, not creating it. You think a missile & those forces are comparable to a bullet? This is a high stakes adult version of dropping an egg off the roof. Seems impossible, yet you know it has, & will be done by someone. Definitely wouldn’t say it was easy, but it wouldn’t be what I’d say would be the most difficult. Mass production of components, & quality would be something closer to that imo.
Simply, electronic firing circuit improves accuracy unbelievably. A projectile fired from such system, leaves the muzzle before the firing pin strikes the cartridge primer of a kinetically fired system when both shots are initiated simultaneously. Major reduction in shooter introduced error especially at a moving target. I don’t believe this information. They cite as an advantage to not reveal the sniper’s hide. The target couldn’t even begin to detect the firing position beyond a mile or two. Additionally, you can’t shoot what you can’t see. No shoulder fired weapon optic will ever allow you to see ten miles on a clear day. Not to mention there’s a high likelihood what you are shooting at would be over the horizon mostly on “flat” land. Also, no shoulder fired .50 caliber round would have enough inertia to travel ten miles without its own propulsion system. Doesn’t exist and never will. Lastly, if a target were that far away, it would be far simpler to deliver a weapon system guided by a spy balloon or high elevation aerial platform. Common sense must be out the window in this crazy word. Jeez!
My first thought in the middle of this article boys could imagine how much more accurate it could be with a 20 mm rifle the electronics that can jam into that limitless possibilities at that time just love that sniper rifle around 👍
Note... Navy CIWS is 20mm Replace the laser seeker with a thermal seeker and the CIWS will home in automatically on incoming missiles at 10 mile effective range instead of 1 mile effective range
This was in the movie Runaway with Tom Selleck. Granted it was a hand gun and the bullet would go around corners and up stairs, but still interesting that its now plausible.
Anti-gravity bullets with no drag and constant ballistics was one of my ideas 30+ years ago. Looks like they have done well but not gotten to anti-gravity yet.
My guess is a tiny electric gyroscope placed inside the projectile, the bullet already rotates so additional rotation of weights inside the bullet could change its trajectory, with a simple program on the chip to adjust to strike any marked target
In these days of drones, I'd imagine that'd be the perfect platform for such a round. If not mounted on the drone per se, it could still give the opportunity for from behind defilade precision strikes.
If you can place one ground drone close to the front lines with a rifle capable of firing the round, and have a flying drone with laser guidance flying outside of direct reach of the enemy, you could reliably pick off opponents all day. Just need the barrel pointed in the general direction. It has the ability to change warfare, with or without a sniper
.. You're all moronz if you think you'll have the right to have that technology.. Not one "bullet" train in America but yay.. let's pay for our own enslave!
Eh. I don't think that's too much of an issue at present. The new smart scopes coming out have backup basics. When your smart bullets don't work you swap mags. At present we're having layers upon layers of smart small arms technology and all of it goes back to the basics to maintain functionality in the field. My main worry is that we cannot have batteries to be able to actually hit the primer. That system must remain purely mechanical
I have no doubt that they have this capability and would be able to do it but it would be crazy expensive and almost ridiculous meaning you might as well just use a larger missile to hit something that's that far away at the cost point I have a feeling
This gets scary as hell when you start to imagine this tech on a drone. I think the bullet is steered using a contra table band that runs around the center of the projectile. If one side or sides contracts, it alters the air's path around the bullet, allowing the bullet to...
Assuming this is legit... I see value in putting it in a small to medium sized UAV. It would mean that every bullet you take into the air has a 99% chance of a kill, and the aerial drone wouldn't be weighed down by needing to carry excessive amounts of ammunition to be effective.
It wouldn’t need a super long barrel. Kinda scary thought. Police cops could easily make a use case argument for that tech. Popo drones flying around w a super sniper round loaded sounds pretty dystopian.
Exacto rounds are cool but expensive AF The tracking point scope i thought beat out the exacto round. Tracking point tech basically became what is the new modular system for the m5. I was asking back around y2k what would happen if you shot a exacto round through a tracking point system. (TrCKING POINT scope can track moving targets up to 15 mph) Exacto last time i heard about it was only for bolt action .50 BMG because it was so long. I’m guessing close to 1,000 grain bullet. For AP version.
It looks like the Tracking Point Scope has been replaced with the Army's new XM-157 battle scope from Vortex. Very similiar, if not the exact same technology.
@@mjk9388 yes that’s what I meant by the new modular system. I think magpul is also involved. I used to have a tracking point scope. Now ATN makes a 4K day time /night vision scope that basically does the same thing TP scopes did except the ATN costs under $800. A TP system starts around $5500 up to 50,000
Adjusting the weight distribution / center of mass could affect the the ballistics in flight. Or maybe a rotating gyro spinning in the opposite direction of bullet spin from the rifling. A breaking effect of the gyro would turn the round although it could only do this in one direction. That said 3 right turns make a left. Maybe that's why some of the shots have a swirling pattern.
There are some people in the comments describing what appears to be their idea of the working principle of the round. Each one that I have seen so far includes either fins or internal or external masses that shift. I don't think they are taking into account that the bullet will be spinning at or over 300,000 rpm. I think that disqualifies any method other than internal mass shift. Even then it would have to be an incredibly tiny mass- oscillating at very high frequencies- a very tiny amplitude- extremely accurately. To unpack that statement a little: The larger the mass is, the more work will be required for it to oscillate. It needs to oscillate because the projectile is spinning and whatever weight displacement needs to be in the same direction over the entire rotation of the round. I'm assuming that the bullet would be tipped to use the bullets broad side as a control surface. This whole tech package would require its density to be (at least close to) radially homogenous (if that makes any sense) and with as few mechanics as possible. This leads me to believe that the tech they are using to accomplish this is a MEMS device, or a stack of MEMS devices. This is the same tech that is used for... conveniently enough accelerometers and gyroscopes in your cell phone... weird what a coincidence.
This is truly amazing I had a lot of fun with weapons back in the '80s I worked on so many weapons after I got out in 79 I was a prototype tool maker and you might say part-time gunsmith certified locksmith alarm Tech a lot of things interested me back then but this is amazing I would have never even dreamed of such things and I used to think up a lot of stuff and implement it instead of just thinking about it I would hate to be on the other end this is truly amazing I wonder how a piece of inch and a quarter thick lexan mounted to your weapons just a small piece enough to protect your head and body but how would you know what's coming from 10 miles away that's insane
I saw this on a TV show once in that show it followed the subject around until it hit. This is daunting it could put 'remote sniping' on a whole new level.
I read an article blurb on this being developed back in the 90s. It was blurb I believe from a Popular Mechanics. It had s series of things including a device that could be attached to a vehicle that bent light concealing the vehicle and it being planned for testing in Germany. On the bullet they were planning a heat seeking module to make sure it struck home. Apparently they’ve super charged it. It’s fascinating but it makes war easier to initiate for nations like Russia or China. This is something we better make sure we keep to our forces and even that might not be a good idea.
I have no idea why roughly 1 in 12 people downvoted this. Every new weapon of war is horrific, but apart from nuclear war, every advance is more targetted and less damaging to civillians, while also lessening soldier casualties. That being said, a John Wicks type with such a weapon would be terrifying.
Maybe it uses gallium and tiny capillaries with a pump inside the round? I'd be looking at creating mothership drones shot out like a Frisbee that carry lots of small drones with a variety of different munitions. Racing drones are hella fast too
Nothing "purposely vague" in the terms used: a maneuverable bullet is being guided to the target thanks to the electronic system capable of changing bullet's path up until it hits that target. Loud and clear.
Back in the mid to late 1980's there was a movie "Runaway" that showed a "Smart Bullett" that once fired the bullet could change directions, track, and navigate to hit its target. Looks like now we have one for real.
If it used fins it had to be fired from a smooth bore gun. I don't think they could get a spinning projectile to respond fast enough to be guided. It also looks like it is only guidable at longer ranges. At short ranges it is still susceptible to dispersion. It may be top secret, but they would be recovered soon after the first use.
The diagram shows everything extending in to the casing where the gun powder goes. To reach 10 miles it will need all the powder the chamber can muster.
The projectile without fins is interesting, because the easies way of guidance would be to alter the centre of gravity and use the projectile itself to steer, all you would need is a motor and a offset weight, as the mass moves it alters the centre of mass
FTR the "cross section" they kept showing isn't some leaked DARPA specs, it's a prop from the 1984 movie "Runaway." (Awesome flick, highly recommended, go check it out) I wouldn't even be surprised if it was the inspiration for the whole DARPA project to begin with; some future engineer back in High School saw Tom Sellick running around trying to kill Gene Simmons' bad guy and thought "Holy shit, GUIDED BULLETS..."
Adding fins will make the mechanism of the bullet too big overall. Most likely, it'd be a miniature thruster fitted on some form of a swivel. The system only needs to cover the minor corrections.
The bullet is rifled, isn't it? If so you could move a small weight forward and back to change its direction. Once you figured out the movements required for a given direction, you can leave the exact actions to a computer
Back in the 1990s, when the .50 snipers during Desert Storm were coming out, someone mentioned at the end of the article that they talked to a student of micro-electronics, and his area of research was to make a laser guided round accurate out past 5 miles.
Looks like they did it
They did it a while ago
If we're seeing it now it's probably been around for 20 years
@@comfortablynumb9342 AT LEAST.
What we see is usually about 20 years behind ACTUAL application.
The theories and experimentation is probably at least 30 or more years past.
Even after the announcement, there's a lot they still don't tell us.
Looks like you bought the clickbait fella. Lol. There is no current small arms ammunition that can accurately fire out past 2 miles and that's the most extreme circumstance (99.99% of shots are happening wayyyy closer than that). The EXACTO ammunition that you see here is only accurate to about 2000 yards. DARPA has been working on it. Not your friend Steve that works at Lowes. But hey tell us more about how you want to feel important on the internet because your life has no meaning outside of validation on UA-cam comments. Love you.
@@Bl00dCrown
So your whole purpose is to go around and put down people who talk about subjects.
Sounds like you're the one needing validation.
Go smoke another one, bro
I went through Artillery school in 1977. If you had told me then we'd have a CEP with a 155mm round marked in the single digit of meters I would have laughed in your face. Now we have first-round kill shot accuracy with the Excalibur. I admit I'm just as skeptical about this, but every year we get closer to the Zorg ZF-1 Pod Weapon.
I spend all day playing FPS so know literally everything there is to know about sniping and I can say you don't know what you're talking about.
@@Wooargh Yeah, but have you killed the rail gun crew on the bridge from the jump off point with the Nagant from 800 meters, with ballistics help off?
what's the red button for?
Excellent movie reference!
Thanks for the movie reference.
Now I think about the sound of Chris Tucker screaming in my ear.
🤣
As a former Ammunition Specialist [55B] we had to identify over 100 different types of ammunition in order to pass advanced individual training. That was '98, and nothing back then is even remotely close to the technology today. For example, the capabilities of the Hellfire missiles I worked with are almost bottle rockets compared to the ones they're testing now, with 3x's the range.
Now, they only have to name ANY 63 of the 201 Genders and then they are experts no matter what their Area of Expertise...DEI is the ONLY thing that matters in the NEW ARMY! Wee Hee.....not HOORAH!
This is now small calibre artillery not sniping.... Crazy !
It's not. It's a missile.
@@HaraldHofer Technically an arrow is a missile, you mean it's a rocket. Projectile and Missile are used interchangeably, its the means of propulsion (I think) that you are pointing out. Whereas conventional projectiles are propelled via a charge at the origin point (Chamber) and propel the projectile a set distance and only along a specific pre-deterimined trajectory. These new projectiles seem to have a propulsion system of their own which they maintain after exiting the barrel of the weapon. A "Rocket Propelled Projectile" or "Rocket Propelled Missile" maybe. In any case I'm sure most of us understand what you meant. :p
@@MishaDark no, it's not:
"A missile has a guidance system - after it is launched, its trajectory and impact point can be changed mid-flight. A rocket, on the other hand, is directed based upon how much propellant is available and the elevation of the rocket launcher."
Exactly
Trouble is it doesn't have the same level of kinetic impact.
I wonder how this technology combines with the Army's new XM-157 battle scope for rifles. The scope gives the correct holdovers for distance, etc, but it looks like this bullet can also help compensate as well - probably improving overall accuracy when the two systems are combined.
Now that will eliminate the entire reason XM5 being adopted into service because 7.62 NATO is better :)))
The horus reticle would be pointless with this technology.
The XM157 was built to work specifically with the new 6.8x51 in the XM5. This ammunition however can go far beyond laser range finding and assisted holdover calculating. They do mention its a .50 caliber bullet which would likely be in an anti-material rifle (like a Barrett) and would need some system running simultaneously, while its airborne, to redirect its path. That is what this video fails to explain. Probably because its extremely complicated DARPA tech and still confidential.
yup bro.. xm157 scope and combine this bullet,can easily kill enemy within 10 miles without miss
@@martincarter8312 not exactly true. Any data from any rifle setup or caliber can be input into the scope in order to be used with units not using the M5. Watch GarandThumb’s video on the XM-157, they go into decent depth
The computer mock-up at 3:22 is somewhat naïve as it shows the electronics in the case as well as the projectile. Total rookies always seem to think the bullets come of a barrel looking exactly like they did when they were loaded into the breach...
I remember when I was a kid in the 80s/90s, my dad got Popular Science/Mechanics/Electronics magazines. I remember an issue with a blurb about smart bullets. The diagram showed a regular-ish bullet, except it was two segments connected in the middle with a ball joint. The entire projectile would bend one way or the other to steer. Perhaps the EXACTO rounds don't actually use fins at all.
Oh man, as a kid I LOVED Popular Science and Mechanics magazines. I don't seem to remember Popular Electronics. This was the eighties, when there was actually bookstores, and ten year old me would get to pick out a couple of magazines to buy. One of them was always a Popular Science or Mechanics. The articles were fascinating, but almost equally as interesting to me were the advertisements in the back. Plans to build your own gyro copter, go cart, hydro plane boat, Ham radios and so much more. Those magazines blew my mind!
I might still have that particular magazine.
@@rickjames8317 It may not have been called Popular Electronics, it may have been Radio Electronics. It's been 30 years now since I've seen one.
Funny but like flying a Bluetooth driveshaft there is no fu@#!g way it can function.
@@rickjames8317 I'm with you on that when you're young and your mind is still empty and looking for ways to fill it might go to magazine and let your imagine grow wild 👍
Someone has been watching the Tom select film from 1984 runaway. Check it out it has a self guided bullet and a camera in it locks on to its target and you can't escape it it can even be pre programmed to recognise the target.
thats a movie. not there yet but soon. might as well have mentiond Fifth Element instant replay feature
Or Robo Cop. Programmed bullets to turn corners lol.
The dissected guided bullet in Runaway is a screenshot of the dissected shown in this video.
My guess, is without external fins, it most likely could be the use of micro actuator weights, able to move in vertical, horizontal or diagonal...or even in a rotational direction. Pretty sophisticated sensors would be needed in order to do this while monitoring spin.
Or no spin.
panels would be my bet. slide open revealing an opening to a hole behind the bullet, to induce a disruption in the low pressure wake of the bullet, altering course. Weights make more sense if accounting for spin, unless this is a single gimbaled high actuation rate panel.
I think you are right, my guess would be no protrusions(aka: fins). I am betting a freely spinning internal flywheel forward or aft of CG that has modulated braking (thus imparting a tangential force) would likely do the trick along with the gun providing remote commands over RF.
He did say "change speed" which implies slow down and speed up. Maybe it has a propellant that can vent in any direction.
This gets scary as hell when you start to imagine this tech on a drone.
Once it's out in the wild all bets are off. It will get into the hands of those that may want to point it right back.
Right? I'm fascinated by the tech, science and engineering here, but... What an ugly and fucked future this kind of thing implies... (Queue: Louis Armstrong - What A Wonderful World.)
they already got automatic drone swarms that can kill half a city for like half a million bucks
Or worse, the government could use it against its own citizens when they get out of line.
Seriously, directed energy fields being developed will render all this obsolete for modern armies, including drone swarms.
Be extra nice to the kids in the Arduino Club.
I think the bullet is steered using a contra table band that runs around the center of the projectile. If one side or sides contracts, it alters the air’s path around the bullet, allowing the bullet to move in real-time based on its target. The more interesting uses are the potentially non lethal kinds. Use a projectile that has an onboard tranquilizer or high voltage package to put down targets without hitting bystanders or hit everyone and sort them out later. Very interesting in policing applications potentially
That makes sense, but you're missing one big issue here....... Bullets don't fly in a flat path, they spiral. THOUSANDS of times per second. Compensating for that alone is an engineering feat by itself. So now, there's been an additional gyroscope added to the mix for stability/orientation means.
@@Another_Saved_Sinner a bullet does spin, but this may not be a bullet in the traditional sense or the middle of the bullet, where the control surfaces are, doesnt spin, just the nose and tail end
@@foresttaniguchi3168 I subscribed your channel. If this is true post a video pls?
Eh.... I would not give that round to the police or trust them enough to use them as they are supposed to.
You are talking about law enforcement who was caught many times through out the last 5yrs shooting people in the face with rubber bullets and teargas canisters.
@@TheSLOShadow Still living in world of delusion. If it’s so often, please link me out. Especially over the supposedly “5 year” span. Only thing you’d be able to show as proof is during the riots that caused untold damages, & even death themselves that we for sure know of. C’mon Chaz, let’s see it…
As a military firearms technician since 1968, I have my own thoughts on advanced SAA. FSDS Guided flechettes would need to be fired from a smooth bore weapon or the fins will be unable to guide them, and that would require a specialist barrel, possibly tapered to give hyper-speed as well as distance. If you use a rifled barrel it is conceivable that you can utilise the spin and a shifting centre of mass to guide the bullet, although you would need to factor in distance because the changes could be minute if you don’t want the round to tumble in flight.
As to steerage, you would need laser light sensitive pixels to pick up reflected laser from the target and translate the offset into direction, as already happens with LGBs…
Like all directed weapons, laser tracking is sensitive to rain, fog, smoke or dust degrading the laser beams.
Small bands with different levels of wind resistance could be used to steer a projectile like this. If one side of the band has a golf ball like divot and the other side is completely flush. Then there would only need to be a mechanism inside of the bullet that rotates the bands to put them in the correct orientation for a given change in trajectory.
The round is a sabot round with a microscopic software defined gyro sensor, which is capable of reducing or in increasing the rotation, which can be utilized to steer the round, by either releasing for withholding the control for reduced spin or increased spin…and this also works to increase or decrease speed…and on simulation this round could extend to a distance of 3+ miles on a .50 cal standard load.
Makes sense
SUPERB , something we did not know. thank you for brought this to our collective awareness.
Yes, I saw it demonstrated in the late 90s with the first 2 or 3 mm of the bullet head that could pivot which would steer it and it had four small holes on the back end of it, which were rocket thrusters which would fire in pairs, to enhance range and help overcome downrange atmospheric conditions. And the whole bullet was the same size as a 50 caliber.
Runaway...Hold all my beers
Was there a mechanical firing mechanism for the steering rockets? Or was it electronic?
I'm very intrigued by this, and I'm still wondering if it's possible as shown here
@@TheTuttle99 Fully electronic
Do these new rounds have the same kinetic energy upon impact with target?
In person? Or did you watch a documentary like the rest of us?
Way to take the fun out of shooting there, DARPA.
Now the script is flipped, they put the fun in out running the bullet. 🤣
Don’t worry bud, we can’t afford it
Now if DARPA can figure out a way for me to win at slot machines 90% of the time.
Lol I mean technically our tax dollars paid for the R&D. I think we should at least get some free samples :p
I saw a similar idea put into place with a sighting system that calculated the target’s trajectory and turns green when you are aiming at the correct point of fire.
It was used for vermin hunting and was very effective
How it works is pretty complex, but breaks down to the same method used for cat toy balls... those kind that wander around randomly.
By shifting components within the round in flight the spin characteristics would be used to modify the trajectory of the round though the degrees of movement would be pretty modest - pretty much like trying to park a battleship using only the props and no rudder.
Let's talk about what we know for sure.
It's not a lead bullet.
Probably contains no lead.
So a 1:7 twist won't interrupt your physics?
@@MrMotorchild That's probably part of what is classified.
no
Inertia control?
Engineers at Auburn U. did early work on this project over a decade ago and had developed working prototypes of these guided bullets. Ft. Benning just an hour from A.U. and worked with the scientists. I don't know if this bullet by Darpa is same program or not.
As noted elsewhere, the only explanation is that (unless this is all fake vaporware) the bullet uses inertia (a gyroscope) to steer. You would just need a small weight inside the projectile that can be moved off center. Then you would need extremely precise sensors and extremely precise motors to synchronize this with bullet spin. If you can move the counterweight around much more rapidly than the spinning motion, bullet spin is not an apriori obstacle to solving this.
Possible? Maybe just. But certainly extremely expensive. I do not think the bullet will have any sensors other than accelerometers, i.e. it determines its position and it is programmed for where it needs to go when fired. In addition there could be a radio receiver to receive position updates sent from the rifle scope, but in this case I expect you run into problems with antenna size and power source, plus the system would be open to jamming. As long as you just fire at targets moving at constant speed (as in all the examples shown) you would not (in principle) need to interact with the bullet after it is fired, it could just "blindly" try to hit the point it was told to hit, but you could not account for unexpected movement of the target.
Exactly what I said
Yep I understand the workings of bullets the spin on the bullet the tip moving to one side would unbalance the bullet . And steering fins on a spinning bullet just does not seem a probable solution . I may be wrong
No doubt laser guidance from a drone or another operator will eventually be part of this new smart bullet-system.
Well. Part of sniper training is proper form to stay relatively on target after firing. So odds are the sniper guides it themselves. But drones for ballistic shots over groups of buildings would be a ruthless and effective use
I'll stick with them Whammy shells Walmart sells.
Just wear reflective materials then?
What would be the point of that? Might as well just have the drone do all the work if it's going to be there anyway.
It'll be more than sniper use - a drone or other means (satellite) will spot and tag targets and then hundreds of rounds will be fired and directed to their targets from above and behind their cover, effectively negating or severely diminishing the effectiveness of foxholes, defilades, and other means of protection.
At the range of 10 miles, I think this is when a rocket powered bullet, like with the GyroJet, would be smart. A small solid rocket motor igniting after the first 4 or 5 miles could be extremely useful to add the necessary velocity to stay lethal. I don't see what might propel this bullet to go out this far and keep enough velocity to stay lethal, unless it's at least a 20mm round.
@Joel N But at least she will come home with a coconut very time
@Joel N out all the ppl i have taught to shoot the ones who picked it up the best were younger girls and women, the guys were always cocky and thought they knew it all. started with a .22 at 50m the to my .308 with subs at 200, then the .308 at 740m then 1210m some guys couldn't do it, every woman was doing it within the hour. ( yes i did the dope and calculations for all of them).
so how about you get out there and become a elr shooter and a sniper in the military and tell us how you go
@Joel N what is it a load of crap, have you done any lr or elr shots. have a look at a ballistic calculator. my .308 was a about 2.8 seconds to 1210m
@Joel N or are you on about how women cant be shooters, my mother was a state champ and my auntie went all over the world competing won a few golds in the world masters games. but that cant be real can it. or the female snipers in ww2. nope that cant be a thing either can it.
quit trolling mate it makes you look like an idiot
@Joel N #3 Sniper with the most kills was a Russian woman in WW2...
my thinking is maybe it uses an internal motor to spin wheels inside of itself to change the attitude of the bullet, and therefore the aerodynamics around it and where it goes. no idea how rotation is managed though
Longest shot to date worldwide is over 4 miles & it's taken with "conventional" ammo, as in no smart tech in the ammo itself. While it's not 10 miles, it is most impressive... also, at a range of 10 miles & given the ballistic drop compensation, it becomes an indirect fire weapon at that point sort of like crossing between howitzer over to a mortar, but definitely not a sniper by any means
Very true. I've already heard of these and they say that the farther away it is (within reason) the more accurate it is as it has more time to adjust. I imagine once the lock on they likely start by somewhat lobbing the shot at an upwards angle as is done with artillery.
You're sure it's over 4 miles? I was pretty certain it was over 4 kilometers, but not over 6 kilometers like you quoted. Mind you, the previous record was just a little over 2,5 kilometers so the new record increasing it by another kilometer and a half is already an amazing feat.
@@pieterveenders9793 I believe it beat the previous record was 2,300 meters in like 03 or 04.
Just under 4 kilometers. But close enough.
I always mix up kilometers and miles. I also wish the US would have just adapted to metric system. I mean it just makes so much more sense. So much easier to crunch metric numbers. Plus I worked as a carpenter for many years and it's ridiculous having to calculate fractional inches converted to decimal numbers off the top of your head. It would have saved me from countless paper and pen calculations. :)
So, in a few decades veterans will be saying, "In my day we had to take calculations and aim the gun."
They already had a rifle on the commercial market that aimed itself
You'd be amazed at what a low khz 10000 watt burst can do to even shielded electronics. A focused beam could take out electronics from further than 10 miles. It will become a stealth battle..
As a marksman myself this video gives me goosebumps. Just like having an aimbot but in real life!
But you realize that the 10 miles range is BS, right?
Reminds me of the scene in The Fifth Element when Zorg demonstrated the target-seeking bullets from his multi-weapon (the one with the red button) to the Mangalores
Lmao ikr
As a firearms instructor, DARPA created projectiles that even terrible shooters can feel good about lol
And soon, you out of work :D *cry ;)
not sure if its just an effect of the video to highlight the bullet or not, but it looks to me like the bullet uses some type of thruster to alter its trajectory and probably to aid in its velocity as the actual cartridge has only around 30% of the grain due to the bullet taking up more space. Im not a rocket scientist or anything but Im willing to bet that changing the trajectory of a bullet mid-air would only take a small amount of force, so my geuss is the bullet might have a slow-burning propellet inside of it (possibly even the type used in those model rockets) that can be released from some ports of somekind on the side of the bullet., kind of like what rockets and satellites do in space to steer and stay in orbit. This approach though of course has the drawback of limited control range, I.E. once the fuel runs out the bullet can no longer be controlled. there's also the possibility that the bullet is controlled mechanically which would greatly improve its effective range. However, the video states that the bullet does not use fins to control its trajectory. If the bullet is mechanical, my initial thought was it uses some type of reaction wheel system, but the more I think about that the more far-fetched it seems. It is possible that the bullet simply uses a small weight that can be shifted around on the inside of the bullet, changing its center of mass which would alter the path of the bullet. IDK though this is all just speculation Im no engineer these are just my shower thoughts lol.
I remember something about some sort of smart bullet a long time ago, possibly IR homing, but from what I remember it steered by turning an off centre weighted tip as the bullet was spinning.
I'm still waiting on the bullets with cameras in them. They've been advertising them for a while now but I haven't seen them trickle down to the public.
You can buy them from Hornady I believe they only cost $50 each
Psst. You just watched it.
maybe you should listen to this video more carefully ;)
The new thing is pistol mounted, 'badge cams' that record when you start firing. I've seen a Police shootout on a minivan using one was like a first person shooter.
@@xSP3CTREx not the same thing. There are badge cams, gun cams, body cams and such but they are talking about a cam on a bullet.
Saw this in a movie called " Runaway " with Tom Selleck.
@3:23 is from the 1984 film "Runaway"
Bullet drop at 10 miles would have you pointing into space, some of this stuff just doesn't make sense. At close range, sure, over 4km, not happening.
Around 4km is actually the ideal range. Remember what the longest unguided sniper shots have been. Over a mile or two. Now that but consistent. Because close range the round is traveling way too fast to make rapid course corrections, and snipers are trained to keep the target in scope while the round travels as best as possible. Meaning with the km to miles conversion 4km is nearly perfect range for these
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It would have to be a large round to handle the guidance system and propellants. You would need enough mass left to penetrate body armor. The latter might be the big hurdle to overcome.
It's not going to have penetrating power.
Soft targets are the idea for these rounds, I would assume
The psychology of being hit from no where helps a little with the lethality
@@crustyroach6921 I would say being hit by a .50 round ensures lethality. The survivors are the ones who suffer psychologically until it is their time.
This is the tech from the old Tom Selleck movie called Runaway..Where Gene Simmons shoots bullets that are programmed to target a specific person's heat signature and turn as if flies.. Summary tech is gunna make things crazy quick.
Those mech spiders with syringes too...
At 10 miles or 16 km a target on ground level is 20 m below the horizon. This means you have to be at least 20 m high from the ground to have a line of sight. The temperature has to be relatively low and the air calm to see the target.
I'm trying to figure out how they could shoot a projectile like that with a standard rifled barrel. I feel like in order to have the fins be able to orient the bullet in the air, the projectile would have to not be spinning. The gun itself would have to have a smooth bore and potentially be its own proprietary chambering. Especially if you have to cram all the moving parts and electronics into such a tiny package. It would be like a scaled down Abrams tank cannon.
Assuming it were laser guided, I'm just thinking about how you could have a spotter close to the target with a laser designator and then have the actual sniper miles away. It literally would be like calling in a tiny artillery strike.
no fins, heating coils to generate drag. there were a few articles about it years ago
no fins or coils needed just a mini gyroscope to increase/decrease spin to change its flight direction
@@Shad0wBoxxer Damn, you beat me to it. This is what I was thinking while watching the video.
Maybe a gyro inside the round stabilizes the round, no rifling. Direction might be changed by changing the axis in relation to the round's axis. IDK, shooting in the dark.
One word.......... sabot
Damn .. anyone will be able to be a sniper with this.
They want to do away with us oldtimers
There's a few politicians that could be useful in testing!
@Randall Reese
Keep those skills handy, when their battery dies or their microprocessor dies they won't be able to hit anything, you on the other hand will!
@@glennbellamy8492So long as the orange sheep-whisperer 🐑, and his illiterate far-right fascist cronies are rounded up first.
Cant wait till one of these bad boys takes me out one day.😂 It can basically walk into my house.
This has been declassified for a while im surprised you didn’t do this before now.
Looks kind of like a gyrojet style rocket powered projectile. The IR photo seems to show something shooting out the back/propelling the bullet. If I had to guess it's a miniature rocket that can be chambered into a 50 caliber rifle. Since it wouldn't need the standard casing and propellant, the whole bullet/rocket would be about 5.5 inches long. Still a miniature guided munition but sounds like the marketing is trying to make people believe the projectile is the size of a .50 bullet (around 2 inches). Just my guess though.
That's a possibility. They didn't show the SHOOTER for those demonstration shots, just "regular" snipers firing. If it's essentially a mini guided missile the recoil would probably be roughly the same as a 7.62/.308 making it much easier to stay on target.
Bingo.
It's a tracer round. I dumped plenty of them downrange when I served. And that's very similar to what they look like viewing through night vision goggles.
That cut in half bullet is from the movie "Runaway" with Tom Selleck, but that fact isn't mentioned here. Why?
Steering a bullet using fins at that speed?
That is like steering a loaded semi with 50 mp/h through a 45 degree curve.
Saw something similar many years ago.
Never heard of it since.
Excellent information as usual. Many thanks
He says the same fucking thing over and over he doesn't explain shit wtf haha
Now just imagine fitting up a machine gun with these rounds and add the capability to track multiple simultaneous targets.
This is like that Wanted movie in real life. Can't wait for the handgun version. Nice.
I would beg to differ on how much bullets have changed since their conception.
Firing cap, powder charge, rim fire, extruded rod propellant, center fire, black powder, smokeless powder, etc.
We’ve had so many changes to bullets that I can’t say they’ve not changed much.
The first patent for a cartridge was 1840, but the first concept was much earlier, though unsuccessful.
I handload,and find it hard to believe that any type of technology can be implemented into a bullet,that can withstand the force and pressure,to still be able to hit its intended target at 10 miles away. Isn’t SAAMI specs set at 65,000 psi.
You can’t fathom it, but we’ve already done it. The problem is protecting the circuitry, not creating it. You think a missile & those forces are comparable to a bullet? This is a high stakes adult version of dropping an egg off the roof. Seems impossible, yet you know it has, & will be done by someone. Definitely wouldn’t say it was easy, but it wouldn’t be what I’d say would be the most difficult. Mass production of components, & quality would be something closer to that imo.
Simply, electronic firing circuit improves accuracy unbelievably. A projectile fired from such system, leaves the muzzle before the firing pin strikes the cartridge primer of a kinetically fired system when both shots are initiated simultaneously. Major reduction in shooter introduced error especially at a moving target.
I don’t believe this information. They cite as an advantage to not reveal the sniper’s hide. The target couldn’t even begin to detect the firing position beyond a mile or two. Additionally, you can’t shoot what you can’t see. No shoulder fired weapon optic will ever allow you to see ten miles on a clear day. Not to mention there’s a high likelihood what you are shooting at would be over the horizon mostly on “flat” land. Also, no shoulder fired .50 caliber round would have enough inertia to travel ten miles without its own propulsion system. Doesn’t exist and never will. Lastly, if a target were that far away, it would be far simpler to deliver a weapon system guided by a spy balloon or high elevation aerial platform. Common sense must be out the window in this crazy word. Jeez!
My first thought in the middle of this article boys could imagine how much more accurate it could be with a 20 mm rifle the electronics that can jam into that limitless possibilities at that time just love that sniper rifle around 👍
For real. You could snipe someone from 50 miles with a 20mm if a 50 will do 10
Note... Navy CIWS is 20mm
Replace the laser seeker with a thermal seeker and the CIWS will home in automatically on incoming missiles at 10 mile effective range instead of 1 mile effective range
@@markwood4555 I like how you think sir. 🫡
This was in the movie Runaway with Tom Selleck. Granted it was a hand gun and the bullet would go around corners and up stairs, but still interesting that its now plausible.
HINT: They were extraordinarily interested in how insect nervous systems worked in the 80's and 90's.
Makes you wonder what kinda weapon systems DARPA has we have never heard of.
Anti-gravity bullets with no drag and constant ballistics was one of my ideas 30+ years ago. Looks like they have done well but not gotten to anti-gravity yet.
My guess is a tiny electric gyroscope placed inside the projectile, the bullet already rotates so additional rotation of weights inside the bullet could change its trajectory, with a simple program on the chip to adjust to strike any marked target
In these days of drones, I'd imagine that'd be the perfect platform for such a round. If not mounted on the drone per se, it could still give the opportunity for from behind defilade precision strikes.
@@speedyeg-guitars-playlists4800 I would use this projectile to take out drones.
If you can place one ground drone close to the front lines with a rifle capable of firing the round, and have a flying drone with laser guidance flying outside of direct reach of the enemy, you could reliably pick off opponents all day.
Just need the barrel pointed in the general direction.
It has the ability to change warfare, with or without a sniper
The exacto bullet most likely uses rotational energy manipulation to adjust it's flight path.
Nah, it´s just wizardry... lol
Finally after months of research, I have now found the type of ammunition the bots in DMZ are using.
This seems like a really nifty piece of equipment but seems it would take away from the skills of snipers when they start to depend so much on it.
Nobody cares about that in reality, they want result and honor, glory or morals isn’t in their minds.
Its been declassified for a couple of years
@@Br1cht what I mean is they will start to rely more on the tech than their actual skills. It has nothing to do with glory, honor or morals.
.. You're all moronz if you think you'll have the right to have that technology..
Not one "bullet" train in America but yay.. let's pay for our own enslave!
Eh. I don't think that's too much of an issue at present. The new smart scopes coming out have backup basics. When your smart bullets don't work you swap mags. At present we're having layers upon layers of smart small arms technology and all of it goes back to the basics to maintain functionality in the field. My main worry is that we cannot have batteries to be able to actually hit the primer. That system must remain purely mechanical
I have no doubt that they have this capability and would be able to do it but it would be crazy expensive and almost ridiculous meaning you might as well just use a larger missile to hit something that's that far away at the cost point I have a feeling
You underestimate the cost of missiles lol
Not a larger missile but an inexpensive drone swarm armed with enough explosives to destroy an enemy soldier.
This gets scary as hell when you start to imagine this tech on a drone.
I think the bullet is steered using a contra table band that runs around the center of the projectile. If one side or sides contracts, it alters the air's path around the bullet, allowing the bullet to...
Assuming this is legit...
I see value in putting it in a small to medium sized UAV. It would mean that every bullet you take into the air has a 99% chance of a kill, and the aerial drone wouldn't be weighed down by needing to carry excessive amounts of ammunition to be effective.
Or lighter drones to spot targets an a couple of drones with these guns mounted.
It wouldn’t need a super long barrel. Kinda scary thought. Police cops could easily make a use case argument for that tech. Popo drones flying around w a super sniper round loaded sounds pretty dystopian.
@@undertow2142 don't worry, San Francisco just voted to allow robotic lethal force. Just one more step closer.
@@jacksparrow3490 Nothing can save the shit hole known as San Francisco save for a carpet bomb.
This is legit. I’ve been following the development for years. Combine this with a Tracking Point optic, and every troop becomes a world class sniper.
Exacto rounds are cool but expensive AF The tracking point scope i thought beat out the exacto round. Tracking point tech basically became what is the new modular system for the m5.
I was asking back around y2k what would happen if you shot a exacto round through a tracking point system. (TrCKING POINT scope can track moving targets up to 15 mph)
Exacto last time i heard about it was only for bolt action .50 BMG because it was so long. I’m guessing close to 1,000 grain bullet. For AP version.
It looks like the Tracking Point Scope has been replaced with the Army's new XM-157 battle scope from Vortex. Very similiar, if not the exact same technology.
@@mjk9388 yes that’s what I meant by the new modular system. I think magpul is also involved.
I used to have a tracking point scope.
Now ATN makes a 4K day time /night vision scope that basically does the same thing TP scopes did except the ATN costs under $800.
A TP system starts around $5500 up to 50,000
@@SitNSpinRecords Wow, that's really awesome that you had a TP scope. What's the ATN Model? I wasn't aware they had something like that.
“Prosecute both stationary and moving targets”?
I’m not going to court next month
Adjusting the weight distribution / center of mass could affect the the ballistics in flight. Or maybe a rotating gyro spinning in the opposite direction of bullet spin from the rifling. A breaking effect of the gyro would turn the round although it could only do this in one direction. That said 3 right turns make a left. Maybe that's why some of the shots have a swirling pattern.
There are some people in the comments describing what appears to be their idea of the working principle of the round. Each one that I have seen so far includes either fins or internal or external masses that shift. I don't think they are taking into account that the bullet will be spinning at or over 300,000 rpm. I think that disqualifies any method other than internal mass shift. Even then it would have to be an incredibly tiny mass- oscillating at very high frequencies- a very tiny amplitude- extremely accurately. To unpack that statement a little: The larger the mass is, the more work will be required for it to oscillate. It needs to oscillate because the projectile is spinning and whatever weight displacement needs to be in the same direction over the entire rotation of the round. I'm assuming that the bullet would be tipped to use the bullets broad side as a control surface. This whole tech package would require its density to be (at least close to) radially homogenous (if that makes any sense) and with as few mechanics as possible. This leads me to believe that the tech they are using to accomplish this is a MEMS device, or a stack of MEMS devices. This is the same tech that is used for... conveniently enough accelerometers and gyroscopes in your cell phone... weird what a coincidence.
This is truly amazing I had a lot of fun with weapons back in the '80s I worked on so many weapons after I got out in 79 I was a prototype tool maker and you might say part-time gunsmith certified locksmith alarm Tech a lot of things interested me back then but this is amazing I would have never even dreamed of such things and I used to think up a lot of stuff and implement it instead of just thinking about it I would hate to be on the other end this is truly amazing I wonder how a piece of inch and a quarter thick lexan mounted to your weapons just a small piece enough to protect your head and body but how would you know what's coming from 10 miles away that's insane
I saw this on a TV show once in that show it followed the subject around until it hit. This is daunting it could put 'remote sniping' on a whole new level.
That movie is called Runaway with Tom Selleck. This was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the vid.
love the way you present this video.❤
This Bullet Technology Makes Being An Enemy or A Bad Guy Even More Scary. 😳
If this technology exists, it will not be long before both sides of a conflict will have it.
Most soldiers get injured or killed by accident
Imagine what we could accomplish if we applied these resources, money, brains, effort, to peace.
I read an article blurb on this being developed back in the 90s. It was blurb I believe from a Popular Mechanics. It had s series of things including a device that could be attached to a vehicle that bent light concealing the vehicle and it being planned for testing in Germany. On the bullet they were planning a heat seeking module to make sure it struck home. Apparently they’ve super charged it. It’s fascinating but it makes war easier to initiate for nations like Russia or China. This is something we better make sure we keep to our forces and even that might not be a good idea.
apparently "10 miles" is 2500 meters.
That's what Americans think..
It's a great weapon. The LESS we say about such secrets, the better!
This isn't sniping.... it's execution.
I have no idea why roughly 1 in 12 people downvoted this. Every new weapon of war is horrific, but apart from nuclear war, every advance is more targetted and less damaging to civillians, while also lessening soldier casualties. That being said, a John Wicks type with such a weapon would be terrifying.
Maybe because the video is so repetitive. The information is interesting but they repeat everything a zillion times.
This is crazy cool!!
So much has changed, the ability and efficiency is so much better!!
Nice!!!
I couldn't agree with you more my little north american warmonger! Now don't move... I'm drawing a bead on you!!
*JFK Magic Bullet Theorists entered the chat*
I couldn't help but laugh when they showed the whole round split in half.
It has to be guided by changes of cg (ctr. of gravity)
Maybe it uses gallium and tiny capillaries with a pump inside the round? I'd be looking at creating mothership drones shot out like a Frisbee that carry lots of small drones with a variety of different munitions. Racing drones are hella fast too
If it wasn't terrifying enough being shot at from a sniper with a .50 cal imagine one that can chase you run around a corner.
“kick your cheater, they’re aimbotting”
“it’s not me it’s my bullets i swear”
Hell yes! Now hopefully no one hears anything else about this for a long long time..... except the enemy when its tooooo late! :D
X-acto also makes guided knifes designed to cut correctly every time.
Nothing "purposely vague" in the terms used: a maneuverable bullet is being guided to the target thanks to the electronic system capable of changing bullet's path up until it hits that target. Loud and clear.
the thermal profile, as well as the cross section lead me to believe this uses solid state fuel for added thrust
Back in the mid to late 1980's there was a movie "Runaway" that showed a "Smart Bullett" that once fired the bullet could change directions, track, and navigate to hit its target. Looks like now we have one for real.
That's where they stole the image of the cut in half shot of the bullet in this video from! Lol
If it used fins it had to be fired from a smooth bore gun. I don't think they could get a spinning projectile to respond fast enough to be guided. It also looks like it is only guidable at longer ranges. At short ranges it is still susceptible to dispersion.
It may be top secret, but they would be recovered soon after the first use.
The bullet swivels it's head in order to change path. It spins a blade for drag or push to change speed.
The diagram shows everything extending in to the casing where the gun powder goes. To reach 10 miles it will need all the powder the chamber can muster.
Internal gyroscopes perhaps to provide for pitch and yaw adjustment through equal and opposite motions?
Now, create a time-traveling bullet that hits its target next week.
The projectile without fins is interesting, because the easies way of guidance would be to alter the centre of gravity and use the projectile itself to steer, all you would need is a motor and a offset weight, as the mass moves it alters the centre of mass
I had to check that this wasn't released on 1st April. It just sounds so outlandish.
I'm more impressed that you made a 2 minute video into 11 minutes
FTR the "cross section" they kept showing isn't some leaked DARPA specs, it's a prop from the 1984 movie "Runaway." (Awesome flick, highly recommended, go check it out)
I wouldn't even be surprised if it was the inspiration for the whole DARPA project to begin with; some future engineer back in High School saw Tom Sellick running around trying to kill Gene Simmons' bad guy and thought "Holy shit, GUIDED BULLETS..."
Adding fins will make the mechanism of the bullet too big overall. Most likely, it'd be a miniature thruster fitted on some form of a swivel. The system only needs to cover the minor corrections.
The bullet is rifled, isn't it? If so you could move a small weight forward and back to change its direction. Once you figured out the movements required for a given direction, you can leave the exact actions to a computer
Looks like Titanfall is going from science-fiction to science-prediction.
The pic of the high tech looking cartridge cut in half is from the movie runaway that was filmed in the 80s with Tom Selleck