DK Canyon: The Biggest JNG Gap in recent History
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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You know how hard Canyon is carrying DK, when he makes a single mistake or two, the game starts to collapse for them.
@@thejowhu Nuguri is coming back
Its more about the Role Jungle being so powerful. They dont loose becausr Canyon throws, they loose because the Jungler Throws.
@@lookokseng9079 oops
@@lookokseng9079 this didn't age well
@@KZXeno24 eheh
if peanut is truly a lol player he should type "jg diff" in all chat after game ends
This comment is a reality slap
I dont know if youre trolling but if we really watched the same game you should know that peanut should add Ez too
This only proves teamwork is the key and not position diff.
i don’t think this kids knows how the game works so just leave him alone and let him live in his world lol
This is the reality for all JG players hahahaha
Canyon was so good, he carried both teams
Rekt 🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha cumyon kia
imagine canyon is so good that you can do a whole video just about him outjungling his opponent xD
In 1 Game xd
Imagine losing the game tho
@@chaddude2 exactly, canyon king of the clowns
@@Furiothebest lol, they lost because of draft strategy, DK strategy was just fast finish the game but GenG resisted till coming back. People everytime just wanting to trash talk
@@greensword02 The reason he was able to do this is because the whole team is a sinning comp. If they were scaling champs like gengs then he would never be able to do this in first place so your logic makes no sense lmao
Canyon played this so beautifully its so terrifying and amazing. If I were peanut I would be bawling with that amount of bullying. Sadly they lost because they are on a timer. They let chovy side lane and got ahead of showmaker and with just the tiniest mistake, gave some kills to the terrifying xayah of ruler in one teamfight. That is the true turning point.
Lol instead of invading he should have been ganking, noob.
canyon is really good no doubt about that, but I still love peanut for his good mental and not getting tilted after all of that. I'm a fan of him since his t1 days
Look at Koo Tigers - Peanut
Peanut pre T1 was way better
@@ych_ito he just good before lck summer 2017
Me hice Main JG por Peanut y por su Legendario Lee sin (Aunque debo decir que yo soy muy malo con ese campeón)
Lol do you think he wasn’t tilted? They can’t do what people do on ranked matches, they gotta keep playing to try to win, that’s why he doesn’t rage, cause it’s his job
You can't paint Peanut as bad jungle tbh. DK's comp has advantage early game and Canyon, well, he's a jungle monster. Poor horse lost the battle but won the war.
the poor horse is lukcy to have doran chovy ruler and lehends as his teammates. They won 4v5
@@fivosliogas2127 Yeah that specific horse is cursed but the one controlling it is not. It's one game after all. He got countered hard lmao.
@@fivosliogas2127 lmao its like i give you yuumi vs olaf in toplane and then say its top diff not champ diff
Yeah. He ain't a bad one but he was bullied in this game
I mean I think this game you have to ward to see if nidalee is heading to your gromp no? As a D1 peak Heca main (usually sit in D3 ish) you know Kindred/Nidalee have the power to gank you on gromp and to just do it blindly is sort of int IMO.
Canyon is too good this split, hope showmaker gets to his form back it's so exciting seeing these guys play.
they have the worst top and bot doesn't matter if showmaker play good
@@roidemon4076 at least it will lessen canyon's burden
@@roidemon4076 deokdam is good. kellin is ok. both their top laners are bad.
@@therealkiasu It's literally the same problem T1 had last year. Canna was just... a waste of Oner's ganks
@@GreyIsolet cant compare Canna to Burdol wtf? Canna is a good top, just choked at Worlds. Did great in T1.
Someone give Canyon a better team holy shit that was so sad
The top inhib fight was sad, Ziggs missed his ult entirely, everyone miss their poke including Canyon and Renekton was literally a sitting duck waiting to die.
Give him a better champ tooooo
His "better team" is the All-Lck 1st Team
Feels bad for Oner tho
@@glitchexcity Would you say Zeus is better than Kiin and Chovy better than Faker? I feel like you could make an argument for Kiin and Chovy.
@@glitchexcity whut?
Up 10k gold at 20 minutes. Still loss because it's only CanyonKia, not DamwonKia
Sad but true LULE
cause they didn't respect chovy and ruler they bully the wrong target
@@zedrhyx1788 That's not true, the game was theirs at the 20 minutes mark. They played badly during the top inhib fight where
1. Ziggs missed his ult entirely
2. Most of DWG members missed their skillshots(including Canyon)
3. Renekton was useless during that entire fight
Up till then, DK was dominating GenG. Peanut cant do anything and everyone was up atleast 1.5k-2k gold. The only thing they were down was mid and bot Exp.
@@775.- This DK is really weak, Showmaker is underperforming, Deokdam and Keilin aren't a strong bot duo, since Keilin keeps getting caught as Leona and Deokdam can only play Ziggs appparently, Burdol is a burden
The only player that performed well this split is Canyon. Hoya barely had any screen time.
@@liamfaust7805 I'm talking about the whole series not just game 5
Man from this to 10k lead comeback
More of a throw id say. They havr low baron damage comp and went for it got punished. They couldve seiged without baron when hecarim wad dead
So Canyon cleared 7 camps while peanut cleared 2 and Canyon was only lvl 4 to peanut's lvl 3. Ok RIOT LOL
Blue > Botside Scuttle > Wolfs (Respawn) = lvl 3
Did you watch the exp bars at all? Do you even know how exp curves work? This isn't uncommon lmao. Canyon was pretty consistently 2 levels up if not 1.75 levels up early. As the game drags on (and especially in pro with how resources are handed around) this difference becomes less drastic. Happens in top all the time too. Been dove endlessly by junglers early to be 2-4 levels below, then you come back and are a level behind or even as you get closer to mid game.
Later in the game, Canyon chose to continue to invade Peanut's juggle instead of getting control over drake basically allow GENG to farm another 5 mins. Not saying Canyon lost the game or anything like that, but it feels like later in the game Canyon is just invading just because he can, not what he should do. Altho the early invade was very good lesson to learn for junglers.
well, we can't assume that just because they lost that invading there was not what he should do
It's insane how much Canyon is single handedly carries DK
Damlost Kia
peanut did well honestly, its a good thing that geng dont waste time to help.
Chovy and ruler got to farm easily because the whole enemy team is looking for peanut lmao
This was painful to watch. Sad DK lost cause canyon was an absolute monster this game
Overconfident
10 month old comment but I have to reply: THEY LOST THIS?!
@@adamm1117 Yes they do GENG managed to slow don the game and nidalee become useless but CANYON played like a monster
Why is everyone saying it's a jungle diff? I mean sure we see canyon getting all the camps, but there is nothing peanut can do to avoid it. Canyon plays the matchup perfectly, while peanut needs his team to get prio in order to answer to nidalee's invade. In my books peanut didn't get gapped whatsoever, he didn't die to canyon and kept his mental until the end of the game. Without his team he can't answer her, and him leaving the camps is the best possible decision. I'm sure he was asking for help that never came, because his teammates couldn't get prio, therefore if they came they would lose cs and probably fall behind too, while nida will most likely still get away thanks to her insane mobility. GenG actually read the situation pretty well, and played to their win cond : scale and minimise damage. If anything this was a team gap at the beginning, not a jungle gap. Canyon played perfectly, but he was enabled by his team. And yet we saw that it wasn't enough and that the fact that the laners stayed in lane and farmed the hell out was the wisest choice as they ended up being able to defend without falling behind too much, and scaled to the point where they got ahead. So, in a way, peanut enabled his laners by letting them farm and sacrificed himself. It's like your 0-10 toplaner that gets 3 man-ed all game, he gets all the pressure on himself and it allows you to farm and make plays on the map, get kills and objectives as you are at an advantage. While nidalee is taking all his camps she isn't doing anything else, and the guy is still hecarim. One good ult, even this far behind, and he has impact. DK exactly picked nidalee to destroy him and geng early, so its pick diff. But then geng team diffed them, and peanut was as much part of the win as any of his teammates. No reason to be so dramatic and yell : " G A P P E D" when there was no individual skill gap. They lost as a team and if canyon couldn't carry while being enabled to such a lead and getting tunneled resourced by his team, he is the one who ultimately failed.
I love how at 1:10 the spear answers the question, "Maybe he gets his krugs, what do you think?"
What makes it even crazier is that Peanut was THE GUY who would do this in like 2016 XD
I TRIED SO HAAARD
AND GOT SO FAR
BUT IN THE END
IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTERRRRR
ON god this is should be on canyon play list ASAP
*One thing..*
_I don’t know why,_
_It doesn’t even matter how hard you try_
Prime Peanut Lee Sin master used to play like this Canyon.
You could analyze that Damwon lost this series when they just let chovy free farm on corki for 20 minutes. And then in this game they only Ganked peanut. Who was never going to carry this game
What they did was just bullying it wasn’t playing a smart win condition. Nidalee hitting spears again yuumi healing was never going to be a win condition
chovy played ahri tho
@@Cube-xs2rn 4th game
the fuck kind of logic is this? "Just bullying... wasn't playing a smart win condition." How can you say that when they were up 10k gold pre 20. It absolutely was a win condition. Canyon giving up a 1000 gold bounty to Ruler was the wrench that threw all the mechanical pieces out. I can very easily see them winning this game had it not been for that pivotal moment. Sure they were on a timer but to say that jungle diff is not a win condition is the dumbest shit I've read lmfao.
absolute delusional freak wtf are u on about.
1) jg playing aggressive allows lanes to play aggressive bc its lane without jg interference from enemy. this advantages the team that has better laning phases bc they can punish more 1v1 or 2v2. renekton, and ziggs leo both smash lane.
2) top mid literally hard winning bc of canyon ganks ahri was like 0/2 and jg was literally flame horizon. you are literally saying that 12k gold lead is bad win con kinda delusional.
3) they threw at the end, but that was impart due to individual mistakes that are uncharacteristic, as well as not playing their comp as well as they did in earlier series and games. ziggs jayce is fucking insane scaling poke comp
@@samyan7943 wtf r u talking abt.............................
I know dk lost in the end, but canyon is the only jg that deserves/has the right to say “Jg diff”.
What he did is absolutely insane, it was literally cyber bullying in the highest level.
He absolutely abused peanut in the early, it was frankly comical how much he made peanut look like a silver player.
And yet he lost lol. Peanut might be getting silver (2nd place in tournament) but damwon damlost
He did to Peanut what Peanut did to Flawless
this kind of playstyle is doable if your laners have prio where they can stop the enemy laners from rotating and helping peanut. I tried to do this on rank. Allies lost their lanes immediately and I got collapsed on the enemy jungle lmao
No denying Canyon is a jg & mechanical god, but he was able to do this coz all his lanes had prio, he was nidalee against a hecarim (not a good duelist early, weak to invades). He was just doing the right thing. Next time in ur soloq games, dont draft 0 prio lanes into a strong early enemy jgler.
This is the hardest DRAFT gap. All dk lanes got full time prio in that match
crazy to believe the actually won this game, Peanut was level 2 for at least 3 minutes
I don't know what dk support was doing always got caught in last couple of fights
Kellin and Hoya are not used to this kind of plays. They are still unexperienced with this tilted plays. they are just following Canyon's command
Imagine Canyon, Ruler and Chovy in a team together…
Well you have Canyon and Chovy now and Peyz isn't a bad alternative to Ruler.
@@chaptermastermoloc4171 Yeah, and I think Ruler would be a bad choice cuz he's a hyper carry that needs a lot of set up and resources, not only this would hurt Canyon play style, but would also make the team very predictable. Viper would be perfect for a team with Chovy and Canyon, mf can play anything from high resources hyper carry to tank frontline
Doesnt that show how unbalanced comeback mechanics are? Canyon was a flame horizon ahead at one point but only 1 lvl up
that show how op is rene+ nidalee b4 and b5
Renek and nidalee are early game champs.. if they dont finish it fast they will suffer
Renek and nida falls off very hard on late game plus they fucked up so bad on top. This is just repeat of the T1 vs DK comeback
It's gold for exp, while DK was only looking for turret gold and grouping up, Chovy and Ruler were farming alot so they were up xp. Plus DK did not land that much poke in objective fights, Renek was pretty useless in the teamfights as well. Basically they got outscaled and Chovy > Showmaker.
No, GenG's team comp is much better than DK's. Although they took all the camps, towers, they don't actually shut down Chovy and Ruler. And there was Yuumi, the most broken enchanter.
i think this the first time i finaly see a clip that show much more than only one play
This isn't counter-jungling, this ain't even disrespect, this is just straight up bullying man
I would probably leave that game as heca but if for some reason I stay and win I would defenietly write
"gg ez jgl gap" at the end
canyon the whole time: "ah"
I just find it so funny that Canyon had more cs took more camps and was only able to be 1-2 lvls ahead of Peanut. Imagine being flame horizon at Jungle and only being 1 lvl ahead. This game is balanced. Now if this was the old jungle without the XP catch up lol it was doomed.
you could say that it was a jungle c a n y o n
This was the moment that the world saw how unhealthy catch-up exp was
really well edited especially the switch onto pro view when they killed peanut and chovy.
to quote the LEC rap battles: It's not a gap, it's a canyon.
Wow what a lockout.
Pretty much macro mistakes. Over stayed too much at top then forcing the baron after killing the horse. Well, at least the T1 vs GENG Full roster is still happening.
T1 WILL SMASH GEN.G since gen.g almost lost vs DK and T1 smashed DK
@@thibloki5768 Good observation but we wouldn't know the outcome until d-day. I'm excited for another T1 stomp, ('cause I'm a T1 fan), but It seems like these type of matchups that go to 5 games and gives us hella anxiety and adrenaline are the best games to watch. imho.
#T1Fighting
@@kryptokn idk t1 looks insane rn would be surprised if it goes to 5 games or if they even lose i hope they stomp gen G for the clean 20:0 run
@@thibloki5768 Worlds 2017. Heard of it?
@@WANCHAN_123 damn bro that was the past how about 18-0 of t1 rn? Mechanically t1 are superior but doesn't mean they will wipe Gen.G but will be 3-1 or 3-2 for t1 at least
Can't do that now :)
Counter jungle friendly game
Dk Agent, John Taiwan, Shaker from Damwon To Gen.G real Quick 🤣
but how much balls/confidence does he have to go this aggressive in game 5, actually the GOAT of jungle.
What did Peanut do to him to get that disrespected 😂😂
imagine casually walking up your jungle and you get invaded by the jungler equivalent of john wick jeez
To be fair, the draft DK picked has all pushing lanes, perfectly set up Nida's aggressive invades.
Still it's not Easy at all to execute the invade at that level
@@evinrudio goes to show how well they trust Canyon. But yet, they still lost.
@@ejparanal Showmaker not stepping up, it supposed to be Canyon and Showmaker but
Only Canyon can pull this team comp tbh.
@@aef3834 no any aggro jg can do it
if this happened to me in a solo queue match, I'd have given up, uninstalled, and just gone out on a hike or something. GGs to Peanut.
"ah" - Canyon 2022
No wonder why GenG wins the final after replacing Peanut with Canyon
I don't know if they bought anti heal because there is a yummi?? Geng obviously snowballing until yummi become relevant by having his teammate sustain from those poke.
The fact that he gets lvl 5 to Nidalee's lvl 6 just shows you how badly catch up xp needs to be removed again. That is so anti-skill and anti-competitive that it blows my mind into oblivion.
It just encourages more ganking or farming own camps and less invading, it’s healthy imo.
How is that anti-skill when you have an extreme gold advantage offset by the early level lead? One level is still significant, not the weight of a Lv4 vs Lv2, but it's pretty apparent without a 1k shutdown or something drastic there's no way the guy a level down is gonna be able to fight the other guy.
canyon giving peanut a taste of his own medicine
You can feel penaut's pain and canyon its just saying "ah"
when you type "jg diff" this should be the first thought that comes out
Canyon deadass follows Peanut to counter jungle him in front of him
Canyon needs lola remedios coz his back will hurt so much after this game.
I dont think people know it was ROX Peanut who was known for destroying enemy jg with Nidalee like this 😥😥😥😥
This is what happens when you give enemy team 3 pushing lanes
Canyon is amazing but he was only able to do that because of the mid and top prio. So it isn't a jungle gap at all. More like doind what you are supposed to do in the matchup+top-mid prio. Also imagine doing all that and still losing sadge
He literally took all 5 of peanuts camps in the first rotation and peanut only got his own blue and u go "thats what hes supposed to do" i would like to see anyone repeat that.
@@sashin2661 it's called mid-top priority invade+matchup knowledge. Hecarim has a decent clear but not as good of an early game as nidalee so you can bully him out of his jungle.
@@xNghtMRxEdgex every single camp though like ur talking as if its some normal "should happen" thing, when was the last time u saw a proffesional match where a jungler literally lost ALL of his camps in the first rotation?
@@sashin2661 I can't think of a particular one ATM but it's not something that weird. Bwipo invading at worlds comes to mind for example. If you actually watch LPL LCK etc you've probably seen invades similar to this one. Maybe Canyon took it a bit further I'll give you that. I feel you are comparing what Canyon did to your sad solo queue games so yeah it's fantastic if you see it from that perspective.
@@xNghtMRxEdgex nah im comparing it to other proplay games usually in these types of scenarios the jungler ends up getting one of the other teams quadrants not the entire fucking jungle like thats unheard of, bwipos invade he didnt get the entire jungle and that was even more of an advantage as he came in lvl 1 and got a kill and the first buff
**flashback to skt vs kt summer 2017 playoffs*
They focused so much on peanut that they forgot about ruler and chovy
honestly in high elo, this in this matchup, this happen alot, even kindred vs heca
2015 Canyon’un Peanut’a 3 lwl diff attığı aklıma geldi abi içim sız etti 🥶
peanut mvp for tilt proof
ahh yeah the classic double cs in jungle yet one level advantage…
I'm not high ELo and what not, but wasn't Canyon able to do this because 1) Nidalee beats Heca early 2) he has both Mid AND bot prio? When he is bullying him in red's jungle he could get collapsed by 3 players if they had prio.
If I was Peanut I would be smashing my keyboard.
This is what *laners* can do for their jungler if you know *actually* know how to manage your lane (this was *only* possible because all 3 lanes of DK pushed from the start for the expressed purpose of supporting DK's invade; by removing lane prior for all of GENs lanes)
yeah but ultimately they made a strategic (rookie) mistake - they sacrificed lanes to play for jungle prio because jungle was dominating.. the problem is that the death timers are so low early - you go kill peanut but the jungler, especially a hecarim will be faster back on the map (his own jungle) than any laner would ever be back to his own lane so the kill doesn't starve him of much compared to what you sacrifice in lane - the advantage is totally misleading and it cost them the game when cork farmed up...your jungle would have to be both ahead himself AND be powerful enough to keep laners from reaching the outer turret safely to dominate which canyon was only able to do partly and with help from his own laners at times
Not exactly sure what Hec could've done different tbh besides maybe starting raptors
Comeback mechanic and objective bounty diff
And see how it ended omg great series indeed
Although, T1 would never end up with a draft like Gen.G, this is one of the ways that has not been tried yet to beat T1, old damwon use to run drafts like this and end games in 25 mins, not many teams in the world play like this anymore because 1 throw and ur team comps fall off hard, even TES doesn't draft this non scaling anymore. I hope damwon continues playing like this because its very entertaining.
Peanut "This is mine jungle"
Canyon "Your jungle?"
Peanut "Well...Yeah...i guess"
Canyon put in urss uniform
Canyon "Our jungle comrade"
If you are below diamond elo, it is okay to think that it was a jung gap xd
Remember when Peanut did to Flawless?
This is also what happens when all of your lanes are pushed in.
So thats why geng wanted to get canyon on their team
When i saw Ornn on the other team i already knew GenG will win XD
They have Croc, Nidalee and a Jayce.
That + Yuumi, what a nightmare
This is one of my biggest fears in solo q xD
What I think to Peanut is, he is a type of jungler that became so good when his teammates are good. But became worst when his teammates are not performing well. He's not consistent jungler, unlike other jungler that wants to be the best jungler. He's not stepping up. I remembered back in 2017, when SKT dominated the whole World 2017, but Peanut got outperformed by SSG's jungler.
i mean it's the perfect scenario, imagine your enemy jingler is nidale and you have 3 pushed lane
RIP Atlus's hair
The tilte should be Laners gap x1000 lmaoo every lane on team DK had priority...
Peanut: you take my jungle, i take the victory, hahahahaha
*I'VE JUST WITNESSED A MURDER*
real definition of : i had no team
I feel so sad about this, seing lot of low elo laughting about how good canyon is, and how bad peanut get rekted, while its only a matchup factor and a laner gap
Look how much DK laner goes help canyon and annoy peanut, bro can do NOTHING, while his mate are just afk farming. No def at all.
No doubt canyon is a monster but this video is ONLY due to the matchup and to the fact how well DK played together and how bad the Gen.G laner react.
No jungle skill involved at all. From both side
The biggest jungle gap happened at worlds where jiejie single handedly dismantled canyon and dk. Peanut couldn't even place himself as a top 8 jungler in lpl so no wonder.
GenG players: "never got a gank"
I remember that day, then they did a tf in top and Deokdam was out of mana and they threw all the advantageee, most epic gaming in competitive history
That's the power of Polar Bear !
i feel bad for peanut
but Peanut's smile change everything
tbh the draft was made so canyon can perma invade with prio in all lanes and he a turbo insane invade match up with nidalee into heca but yeah
3 winning lanes moment
Oh my god, Canyon early retirement incoming
back problems probably
Alright Canyon is insane but this is champ diff not jung diff, jethus the amount of low elos here..
Canyon doesn’t deserve to lose that game. It makes me so sad till now!
he deserved it can't he just play like a normal human being so annoying this invading shittt.
Canyon is officialy the jungle Goat
Finally junglers know how it feels when you die in top lane and the enemy permafreezes
Canyon did very good early game but to be honest he went over confident and make mistakes (I understand he is desperate but meh he literally inted that one vs xayah ) and dk make a lot of big mistake in micro management that they kind of deserved to lose. After the first 10 mins hercarim was useless already but canyon keeps counter jungling in peanut's jungle instead of taking drake to speed up the game and a underlvled hercarim actually gets first drake. If they actually gets dragon soul I don't think DK would hv lost that easily although the last two teamfight execute so poorly.
You know as a jungler this was so painful to watch. The same feeling I get when I see someone get kicked on the balls
Peanut is really good playing from behind. In worlds during game 5 DMG vs GenG, it looked like peanut was getting outjungled by Canyon, but peanut knew it was gonna happen in the early game. He managed to get first blood anyway and he made his mid go 5/0. During the late game he was more usefull to his team than Canyon by far.