@@brainimpalement Mmm yeah, but he was playing on the rims, which is not the same thing as a rimshot, which is when you simultaneously hit the head AND the rim of the drum at the same time.
Unfortunately only people who lived in large cities and who could afford tickets to performances got to see the Basie and Ellington bands of the that era . I listened to Sam on my family HiFi record player . Local TV in NY and LA, Philly and Boston might broadcast brief appearance by big time Jazz pros - but National Networks rarely did and Southern Stations only allowed Blacks in Amos & Andy and Jack Benny's Black manservant Roscoe . I did get to see Krupa and Cozy Cole once on TV
Mike Portnoy plays a really cool pattern using rim shots at the end of "Finally Free" off of the Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory album. That whole drum part at the end is awesome. He creates a polymeter with the double bass part that's bizarre and awesome at the same time.
because it sounds kind of silly. Any drummer _can_ play their patterns on the shallow tinny metal rims of their drums if they want, but they have drums for a reason. It's a novelty that isn't any harder than regular drumming.
@@poppinlochnesshopster3249 idk this is pretty difficult and seems torturous for your arms. He’s not doing a buzz roll or something, he’s actually hitting the drums that fast
It's incredible how much death metal and extreme metal in general is indebted to jazz. Blasts,double bass and off kilter time signatures would not be a thing without jazz. Cynic,death,imperial triumphant,atheist and candiria come to mind.
This isn't even remotely true, when we're looking for the origins of gravity blasts, double bass, etc. we do not give a shit about some jazz drummer from the 50s or 60's because they don't matter in a death metal context. The blast beats in a genre like deathcore have no debt to anything related to jazz because the techniques aren't used the same and aren't nearly on the same level.
@@getshwiftygaming447you have no fucking clue about the evolution of music and drums. Modern drum set playing is inexorably indebted to jazz. I love metal but it would be completely ignorant to deny such reality. Before metal existed, even before rock existed, many concepts we use today were being used by jazz drummers. You would do well to respect and even learn some jazz. Many of the greatest rock and metal drummers were passionate about drummers like buddy rich, Tony Williams, Vinnie colaiuta etc.
He is moving the sticks closer and further from the rim so the pitch changes. You can do it with a ruler on a counters edge.. hold on counter tight and flick the other end and slide the ruler more on the counter.. it will do that.
Sam Woodyard is a forgotten legend. He also inspired Keith Moon and Ginger Baker to play the double bass drum. Woodyard and Sunny Murray were the true pioneers of blast beat.
@@Blueeye9677It's pretty known double bass comes from jazz. Louie Bellson introduced two bass drums back in the 40's. He did simple stuff for todays standards but you can hear the basis of what Cozy Powell, Tommy Aldridge and Alex Van Halen did decades later.
Because technical or not, jazz is boring as hell. I don't need half hour solos for all instruments. You're good, I get it, but the song itself needs to be good too, not just instrument wank fests.
Ginger Baker got a second bass drum after going to see Duke Ellington's band. Woodyard was a major influence on him and their kit set ups are basically the same. Baker was a major influence in turn on Neil Peart and Alex Van Halen, among others. That's how the jazz influenced the metal.
I remember first seeing this on a DVD my parents got me back in the early/mid 2000's. The part where he plays on the rim still cracks me up to this day. 😂
And all you need to add to this to sound identical is white noise on a shortwave radio and a guy having a heart attack into one of those toy microphones that sounds like reverb
@@ShowerOnceYearly hey man, as a fan of grindcore that offends me. It's not a heart attack, it's a combination of panic attack and diarrheal frenetics.
Imagine what you could accomplish back in the days before the distractions of phones and internet. This dude probably played drums the majority of his hours awake; and then dreamed about playing.
If you'd put a jazz drummer, a jazz bassist, a flamenco guitarist, a blues guitarist and an opera singer together in a room with the task of writing an angry, energetic song with politically progressive lyrics back in the late 40's, you'd get an amazing metal song! This would be especially true if you magicaly provided them with a Gibson Les Paul for rhythm, a Fender Stratocaster for leads, a Fender Precision Bass, and some massive amps (Marshall Super lead and Super Bass, with a 4x12 and 4x15 cab respectively) as well as a Wah and a fuzz box.
I had never seen this drummer before but by the way he holds the sticks and hits the drums, I would say he has an obvius background as timbalero, nevertheless mad skills.
Where's the blast beat? It's just single strokes on the toms lol. It has to be a context for you to call it a blast beat. Not all 16th/32nd note beats are blast beats. And this is not even a beat, it's just a fast tom roll.
@@gabriel77196 Jazz is more open minded than metal overall. Jazz musicians are more technical than metal musicians overall. Jazz harmony is more complex than metal harmony overall. Sorry if i seem elitist or anti-metal, i like metal but thats the truth
Buddy Rich did short one-handed rolls, not even that fast. Sam Woodyard and Sunny Murray were probably the first jazz drummers to play a real blast beat back then.
usually blasts do have a rhythm. The snare is on the offbeat though so it sounds goofy when you first start listening to it. I was confused about tempo too then I slowed down a Weigedood song and realized it was perfectly on time
@@Motorheadbanger747 ahhh I get what you mean now. I thought you meant the stuff was off beat. Try Undeath maybe, super headbangable new death metal band
There's different kinds of blasts like the euro blast that don't require a second bass drum. This is like a fast euro blast or bomb blast but swapping the mounted tom for the kick
This man basically craved the path for the whole technical death metal history right here
I correct that it’s basically death metal in general.
And black metal
@@SuperMario9078 and grindcore.
Also, cookie monster deserves credit for his vocals
Lots of extreme metal drummers are influenced by jazz
death metal sucks, black metal does it better
" I guess you're not ready for that, but your kids are gonna love it." 😉. Lol
AWESOME!
ayyy, back to the futureee
I'm only a teen but wow does that bring me back...
I love extreme metal... Hilarious! 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
You suffer but why
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deaf metal
Ernie, Bert and this bloke go brutal
What
Souyuyay, as it sounds
I just read up on Sam. He was a super open minded drummer. If Technical death metal was a thing in 1962, he would have played in a TDM band
TDM bands are not this open minded
If TDM was a thing back then, wouldn't he just do something else, never heard before?
>open minded
>plays TDM
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅
@@FelipeKariri thats pretty closed minded of you to say something like that
@@droopy_eyes I was in grindcore band when I was a young lad, my inspiration was Hall and Oates and Thompson Twins.
this is even faster than most of Technical Death Metal bands wtf
Then those bands aren't technical enough lol
Death Metal is not technical, Progressive Metal is. Dream Theater, Symphony X etc...
@@jskypercussion yes but Technical Death Metal is, indeed, technical
@@jskypercussionHe’s talking about the death metal subgenre that’s literally called “technical death metal”
@@yakeeb3742 ok, I didn't know there was a such thing. Lol
That snare roll at the end was absolutely insane
He was hitting the edges of the drum actually
@@vicente8705 ackshually it's still the snare and it's still a roll, even if it's rimshots
@@brainimpalement Mmm yeah, but he was playing on the rims, which is not the same thing as a rimshot, which is when you simultaneously hit the head AND the rim of the drum at the same time.
@@tsandell come on bro you're meant to say "ackshually", that's no fun (u rite tho)
@@vicente8705it's still a roll
Bro casually blasting at 270bpm in the 1960s 😂👌
Unfortunately only people who lived in large cities and who could afford tickets to performances got to see the Basie and Ellington bands of the that era . I listened to Sam on my family HiFi record player . Local TV in NY and LA, Philly and Boston might broadcast brief appearance by big time Jazz pros - but National Networks rarely did and Southern Stations only allowed Blacks in Amos & Andy and Jack Benny's Black manservant Roscoe . I did get to see Krupa and Cozy Cole once on TV
Those rim shots are fantastic you never hear any drummer really go for that.
Mike Portnoy plays a really cool pattern using rim shots at the end of "Finally Free" off of the Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory album. That whole drum part at the end is awesome. He creates a polymeter with the double bass part that's bizarre and awesome at the same time.
@@denislanza6228 nice! I’ll check it out! Always interesting to hear how drummers use every part of the instrument.
because it sounds kind of silly. Any drummer _can_ play their patterns on the shallow tinny metal rims of their drums if they want, but they have drums for a reason. It's a novelty that isn't any harder than regular drumming.
@@poppinlochnesshopster3249 idk this is pretty difficult and seems torturous for your arms. He’s not doing a buzz roll or something, he’s actually hitting the drums that fast
poly meter or poly rhythm? @@denislanza6228
0:20 that rim trick hes doing here sounds so cool.
yeah it's like he had a flanger on that
Friggin' freguency sweebin'
Sounds like something Gojira would do
You need to see Buddy Rich do that.
I can't do that nearly as fast as he can but I learned that trick from a Latin percussionist. He did it on timbales.
He's even making the metal/grindcore face. A true pioneer.
It's incredible how much death metal and extreme metal in general is indebted to jazz. Blasts,double bass and off kilter time signatures would not be a thing without jazz. Cynic,death,imperial triumphant,atheist and candiria come to mind.
Wbds , the cumbia is most best
Lo mejor siempre
Well, pretty much every contemporary genre in the West owes its existence to Jazz and Blues in some way.
@@Christopher-md7tf oh yeah, rock is a direct decendent of the blues
This isn't even remotely true, when we're looking for the origins of gravity blasts, double bass, etc. we do not give a shit about some jazz drummer from the 50s or 60's because they don't matter in a death metal context. The blast beats in a genre like deathcore have no debt to anything related to jazz because the techniques aren't used the same and aren't nearly on the same level.
@@getshwiftygaming447you have no fucking clue about the evolution of music and drums. Modern drum set playing is inexorably indebted to jazz. I love metal but it would be completely ignorant to deny such reality. Before metal existed, even before rock existed, many concepts we use today were being used by jazz drummers. You would do well to respect and even learn some jazz. Many of the greatest rock and metal drummers were passionate about drummers like buddy rich, Tony Williams, Vinnie colaiuta etc.
This definitely awakened a taste for heavier music in a certain number of people in attendance. What a pioneer this man was!
Even by todays crazy standards that's insanely fast
That flanger-like effect it makes when he plays with dynamics on the snare...
You described it perfectly. I heard it too but couldn't put it into words.
He is moving the sticks closer and further from the rim so the pitch changes. You can do it with a ruler on a counters edge.. hold on counter tight and flick the other end and slide the ruler more on the counter.. it will do that.
Sam Woodyard is a forgotten legend. He also inspired Keith Moon and Ginger Baker to play the double bass drum. Woodyard and Sunny Murray were the true pioneers of blast beat.
Yeah, Sunny Murray definitely was a pioneer... Even the moaning he did while blasting was awesome.
Thanks for the info!
Yeah, don't think things like double bass drum came from Metal!
@@Blueeye9677It's pretty known double bass comes from jazz. Louie Bellson introduced two bass drums back in the 40's. He did simple stuff for todays standards but you can hear the basis of what Cozy Powell, Tommy Aldridge and Alex Van Halen did decades later.
Imagine just doing your jazzy jazz thing not knowing youre literally paving the way for death metal blast beats
0:13 that pattern was insane
Man made flanger sound on his drums. Absolute legend
First goregrind drummer. Also reminds me of Behold the Arctopus's 2020 album
Ken Owen in the corner be like: 🤨
Lol
I was going to say "makes sense. Weasel Walter also plays in Encenathrakh" but it turns out nope, he hasn't been in the band for years by now. whoops
I'm not sure your audience is ready for that yet...
*but your kids are gonna love it.*
he is the teacher of every metal drummer
I love how anachronic is to see someone playing in that setting and attire
Sam Woodyard was a beast on the drums. Such a great drummer and he did techniques that I’ve rarely ever seen performed before.
So We're just gonna all sleep on that snare/timpani technique at 0:22 huh?
Now that sounds pretty damn brutal.
Homie rolled so fast the pitch changed, that was unbelievable
The pitch change was due to what part of the stick he was hitting the rim. The closer to the tips, the higher the pitch.
A lot of people sleep on jazz drummers. I don't get why; they do the same crazy shit, and they can swing it too.
Mario Duplantier is a perfect example that springs to mind
Because technical or not, jazz is boring as hell. I don't need half hour solos for all instruments. You're good, I get it, but the song itself needs to be good too, not just instrument wank fests.
@@adriantrusca1245ah yes
@@adriantrusca1245 you just described metal as well
@@adriantrusca1245🤦🏻♂️
Drummers were something else back in the day. R.i.p. this guy and Buddy Rich.
Ginger Baker got a second bass drum after going to see Duke Ellington's band. Woodyard was a major influence on him and their kit set ups are basically the same. Baker was a major influence in turn on Neil Peart and Alex Van Halen, among others. That's how the jazz influenced the metal.
THEY TRIED TO KILL THE METAL!!
I remember first seeing this on a DVD my parents got me back in the early/mid 2000's. The part where he plays on the rim still cracks me up to this day. 😂
Sounds like "last days of humanity" type of style blast beat with that snare sound
Imagine if this is what LDoH looked like lmao
Hahaha that’s fucking hilarious
And all you need to add to this to sound identical is white noise on a shortwave radio and a guy having a heart attack into one of those toy microphones that sounds like reverb
@@ShowerOnceYearly hey man, as a fan of grindcore that offends me. It's not a heart attack, it's a combination of panic attack and diarrheal frenetics.
@@whahappend8222 I'm a fan too good sir.
That guy is a true master of the drums.
Great feel, pace of strokes and the sound on the snare rim is amazing!! Love it!
i cant stop watching this
These drummers played with such class but rocked it out
Man that is some badass stuff. I love it, coming from a metal fan. 👊
When I look back at old technical drummers its astounding.
Don’t know how this guy isn’t as recognized as Gene Krupa or Buddy Rich.
This is what cars sounded like in the 1900's.
Notice how he’s swaying his arms with the blast beat in the earlier half of the video. He’s doing George Kollias stuff decades before he was a drummer
Thats a perfect sounding slam snare
He doesn’t play the snare drum at all in this section of the solo
@@rhythmfield it's just a joke man...
Bro got the flo mounier technique
This whole TV special was glorious. Duke Ellington 1962, very awesome show
Man's predicted both blast beats and sorting algorithms.
really cool to hear and to see this.
Imagine how insane this dude would of been in a death metal band if he was around
My man got the juice...
That's an awesome set of Premiers.
Lol
Someone needs to make a Mashup and play Metal Music over it 😂
Okay...NOW we're getting somewhere. This resembles the modern blastbeat. People say Buddy Rich did it.....he never did anything close to a blast.
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Also best dressed blast beater.
I can already hear 66samus laughing watching this
Open hand. Metal as fuck
Imagine if Black Sabbath had these kind of drums.
They kinda did on the first album, on the last part of Black Sabbath and The Wizard with some of the fills.
Check out the ending of Black Sabbath War Pigs live in Paris 1970, Bill Ward is clearly playing a blast beat a couple of measures long.
At around 6:40
Blast Sabbath.
Them rim taps are satisfying as fuck
My god, this guy is incredibly fast
Gênio!
this man = legend
0:19 This man was drummer of Mayhem when they recorded Silvester Anfang.
Imagine what you could accomplish back in the days before the distractions of phones and internet. This dude probably played drums the majority of his hours awake; and then dreamed about playing.
If you'd put a jazz drummer, a jazz bassist, a flamenco guitarist, a blues guitarist and an opera singer together in a room with the task of writing an angry, energetic song with politically progressive lyrics back in the late 40's, you'd get an amazing metal song!
This would be especially true if you magicaly provided them with a Gibson Les Paul for rhythm, a Fender Stratocaster for leads, a Fender Precision Bass, and some massive amps (Marshall Super lead and Super Bass, with a 4x12 and 4x15 cab respectively) as well as a Wah and a fuzz box.
Dumbest shit I've ever read.
that rim roll at the end, holy sheeza
"my First Drum Kit"
I had never seen this drummer before but by the way he holds the sticks and hits the drums, I would say he has an obvius background as timbalero, nevertheless mad skills.
Was thinking the same thing. Or he may have just learned it from a Latin percussionist.
thank you to this man for giving us the entirety of powerviolence and grindcore
I can feel both Cannibal Corpse and Sewerslvt here
waiting for the blast beats
Still a better drummer than Archspire
I don't know why but it feels like he's drumming with noodle sticks
That thing sounded like my 88 Chevy starting on a cold morning
Proto-grindcore drumming
Not even remotely
shit goes hard
Your mom goes hard too.
@@adriantrusca1245and your dad as well
When I hear Sein Reinert’s drumming on Human I hear this. Insane how advanced this is
Basically every drumming technique used in Metal was created by jazz drummers
280 bpm aprox.
English hardcore, American hardcore and every genre heavy genre after owes a salute to this man
Forget the blasts, he’s got built-in phaser 🤣
Damn that was brutal❤
Canibal Corpse, we have a new drummer !!!!!!!!
Cheers !!!!
Ok Pete. Now can I just hear your kick drum, please.
Sick. I've never seen anything like that on the snare before.
You learn something every day
true
this is better than modern drumming
Dragonforce: write that down WRITE THAT DOWN
Bros edging the drum solo
this guy is heavier than 99% of deathcore bands
Where's the blast beat? It's just single strokes on the toms lol. It has to be a context for you to call it a blast beat. Not all 16th/32nd note beats are blast beats. And this is not even a beat, it's just a fast tom roll.
You speak truth and wisdom, kind Sir.
And here I am listening to very fast Doom Metal (36 bpm).
cant imagine how I made it through my life without seeing that
Sooo you’re saying that metal is actually just jazz.
thats an insult to jazz musicians
Metal is just heavier rock
@@hombrerusode40anos72how
@ thats an oversimplification
@@gabriel77196 Jazz is more open minded than metal overall. Jazz musicians are more technical than metal musicians overall. Jazz harmony is more complex than metal harmony overall. Sorry if i seem elitist or anti-metal, i like metal but thats the truth
actually buddy rich did it way back in the 40s and probably someone else did it even back
No.
Any evidence? Thanks in advance.
Buddy Rich did short one-handed rolls, not even that fast. Sam Woodyard and Sunny Murray were probably the first jazz drummers to play a real blast beat back then.
@@robertoricci3393 Tony Williams
@@soartso no, he never did.
@00:20 me through elementary school and highschool with pencils be like
Except he can actually keep a rhythm
usually blasts do have a rhythm. The snare is on the offbeat though so it sounds goofy when you first start listening to it. I was confused about tempo too then I slowed down a Weigedood song and realized it was perfectly on time
@@evergreen3337 I mean I like Sadistik Exekution but these new death metal bands you cannot bang your head to at all
@@Motorheadbanger747 ahhh I get what you mean now. I thought you meant the stuff was off beat. Try Undeath maybe, super headbangable new death metal band
@@Motorheadbanger747 Who cares about the new bands anyway. Not worth even talking about as long as old ones are still touring.
actually it's missing the double kick, so technically it's not a blast beat
Thanks Mr President
Punk drummers play the blast beat without a double pedal. And they did it long before metal drummers.
ACKSHUALLY
There's different kinds of blasts like the euro blast that don't require a second bass drum. This is like a fast euro blast or bomb blast but swapping the mounted tom for the kick
Original Napalm Death drummer Mick Harris coined the term "Blast Beat" in 1983, he used a single peddle.
Im very happy that it's the glorious Sam Woodyard of Duke's Orchestra
He went so fast he started to ring-mod holy crap
Can you explain ?
@@d77sauce he was playing so fast that the microphone was picking up his beats as sound waves.
it's a no from me
"You suffer why"...
Beautiful!
This is all of my fav drummers in one video lmao I’m crying