Restoring a 1960's Rogers Holiday Drum Set
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2024
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Today I have an old Rogers Holiday from the 1960's from my buddy John. He found this kit on Facebook Marketplace for a killer deal, but of course it had been sitting for ages and needed a quick refresh.
I did glance over the buffing process, mainly because I'm still a noob… But first you want to clean all the dirt and debris off the shell. I didn't bother with removing the badges since they’re made from solid metal, but if they were a thinner regular style badge, or a badge with paint on them, I would take them off. For buffing, I started with the Novus “3” compound with a stiff pad, then went to the “2” compound with the same pad. I then wiped off any excess compound and switched to a wool pad and used a carnauba wax just to really bring out the shine. Then for the last step I used the Novus “1” spray to wipe off any haze from the wax. This spray also claims to repel dust, so that's cool too.
Other things to consider/things I didn't show:
-I didn't paint the inside of the shells, but if you need to match a paint color, you can bring a shell into a paint store and they can help you match the color.
-The tom mount looks crusty when I show fixing it, but I did clean it up afterwards
-I did buff the inlay on the bd hoop before painting it.
-I painted the new hoop with the same paint I used on the old hoop, just so the sheen was the same
-Check out this video for installing inlays on a hoop: • Restoring a Vintage Ta...
-Some vinyl doesnt like to stick to coated heads, but I did a secret technique to make it stick.
- Drum Gear Used -
Iron Cobra Hardware:
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Vic Firth Freestyle 5b:
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Vic Firth VKB5 Beater:
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Roc n Soc Throne:
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21” Zildjian K Custom Special Dry Ride:
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20” Zildjian Oriental Crash of Doom:
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16” Zildjian K Sweet Crash (hh top):
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16” Zildjian A Medium Crash (hh bot):
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Remo Ambassador Coated (tom & snare batter, bd reso):
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Remo Ambassador Clear (tom reso):
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Remo Ambassador Snare Side:
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Aquarian Super Kick II:
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Remo Falam Slam:
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Felt Strip (on bd reso):
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- Mics & Headphones -
Pair of Slate ML-1 (overheads):
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Austrian Audio CC8 (rooms):
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Earthworks DM20 (toms):
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Earthworks SR20LS (snare top):
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Shure SM57 (snare bottom):
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Earthworks DM6 (bass drum):
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Austrian Audio Hi-X60 Headphones:
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Tools & Materials Used:
Plastic Razor Blade - amzn.to/3WecNTr
Cheap Buffer - amzn.to/44bffvM
Dead Blow Hammer - amzn.to/4b6TUFR
Clamps - amzn.to/3xJeMVs
Organizer Trays - amzn.to/49HKf7D
Ribbon for Snares - amzn.to/3vRSvEx
Speed Tape - amzn.to/3w4cgZy
Microfiber Cloths - amzn.to/49GmooY
Aluminum Foil - amzn.to/3xLQQAL
Magic Eraser - amzn.to/3JviUv0
Scrubber - amzn.to/3QdsYw6
Q Tips - amzn.to/3U8EPNh
Tuff Stuff - amzn.to/49GIoQE
White Lithium Grease - amzn.to/3JzOFmA
Novus Plastic Polish - amzn.to/3w5zQVJ
Carnauba Wax - amzn.to/3wa0tZt
CLR - amzn.to/4aPWuRe
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Myers Cleaner - amzn.to/49GmooY
Restoring a 1960's Rogers Holiday Drum Set
This kit came out pretty good! By no means a museum quality restoration, but makes a killer little player kit!
I did glance over a couple things, you can find some more details in the description.
Hey Dave, great work as always. Rogers drums have a special place in my heart. So what if they're not museum pieces. They pretty, and playable.
EVERYONE DO NOT USE PARAFFIN WAX ON WOOD EDGES!!! David please add a warning. Petroleum based wax will destroy wood shells and that should be noted. If you want to use a wax a) don't, instead get the edge recut b) use 100% beeswax if you must
maybe chain wax for bicycle chains is also working
Awesome video as always, i love all the videos but especially the restorations because i have two old late 60's early 70's Hoshino kits im doing up, so its great to get all the tips and tricks
Paragon is a German heavy metal band.
I know you can’t please everyone all the time, and I love a good weird cymbal video, but I miss these kinds of videos. I’d watch these all day. Cleaning, restoring, rewrapping, etc. These are top tier rdavidr
Agreed. These are the best vids he does I reckon.
Considering I've rewatched all his other restoration videos at least 3 times, I'm with you. Love new drum repair content!
I believe that I'm just a fan of anything this fellow puts on his channel. Any day he uploads is gonna be a good day.
@@jlhitz35 Jezz... good to know I'm not alone!
Agreed
I'm the owner of this beautiful kit. I got it for almost nothing (when you consider the price for this kit with a matching snare). I also knew these needed some TLC and David immediately came to mind. I texted him within hours of getting home with the kit. (When the seller sent me pics of the kit, I immediately left the house, cash in hand as I know how aggressive buyers can be!)
He did a superb job and his attention to detail is amazing.
I used the kit on a gig for the first time last night and they sound as good as they look.
David is the man!
Thanks for your hard work and dedication 🥰
deadly score, buddy!
David as always did a fantastic job cleaning and refurbing your kit!! It’s always nice to find a good bargain!!!
@@mattryan6886
It was a bargain that I would have been foolish to not taken the owner up on.
any idea what the sticker was? just curious :)
@@dextarantino9941
Not at all. Was hoping someone would lol!
Oldschool rdavidr, love it. I bought an old nasty Pearl Kit for 60€ and restored it because of your videos!
$64.18 in today’s dollar. Well done.
This whole video is great, but that groove to end it off? *chef's kiss*
It´s my kit... 😉😉
Yes
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Rogers are one of my favourite Drum companies. I’ve only played one once, but they were very similar to my Pork Pie PigLite set. I absolutely love acrylic Drums for there projection and resonance, so to play a wooden set that had similar characteristics, was absolutely incredible. Their hardware seems like it was so ahead of most if not all the other companies at the time. I’m assuming you know, but just incase, you should never use more than two tension screws on the Tom mount. It was designed for two to push against the metal ball that is apparently egg shaped so it pushes against the inside of the holder and stays in place.
I think the perfect collab for me would be Dankpods and Rdavidr. Dankpods gives Dave the drum, and Dave repairs the ancient drums that Wade has in his drum museum.
Honestly meetin an Australian in Virginia would be wild
THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN, i don't know if their personalities would match but the love for the craft and history is there from both
Restoration videos are a seratonin heaven.
Please make more of these restoration videos! These are absolutely my favorite kind, and this was nice and long too.
15:45 This is something you did that wasn't mentioned, but I noticed it and I think it's a fantastic tip for when you're working on shells that are supported on a piece of wood by a vice grip- Screw down the shells into the wood through one of the hardware holes to keep it from wobbling around while you buff, sand, etc.! I never thought of doing this, and when I restored my Ludwig kit, it was a pain in the ass to work on the shells because they were moving around so much. I'm definitely using this trick next time I clean up some old drums.
yup! shells can be awkward, just make sure not to kill the screw in too tight and deform the hole/wrap!
I always used windex or glass cleaner and 0000 steel wool for chrome, we used to use it for detailing cars and it works amazingly on old gross drum chrome too.
Why have I never thought of using a towel between the pedal and the batter head before?! Genius!
Finally back to acoustic kits.
Thank god
Those Super Kick heads are the bomb. No muffling needed.
Absolutely amazing video. The camera time, directing of photography, level of detail in exposition, simply tasteful-funky-fills and a standard of intelligence that makes watching a breath of fresh air. Thanks Dave, your content is incredible. Kudos.
Appreciate the MMW and James Brown inspired background music. Very appropriate
AHHH that 20" punch... Love it! GREAT lookin'Soundin' kit!
The End... Killer!!! I watch you playing a long time now and this was brilliant!
The work, also brilliant.
Keep on funkin´!
Cheers from Austria
Finally, your back. Good to see you. Love Rogers drums. Someday will have me a dynasonic. Nice job.
Nice work! I bought my '66-'67 Holiday kit with Champagne Sparkle wrap in 1983.14x5 metal Dynasonic snare and 20/16/13/12. All for a whopping $300. I still have it, and it was my workhorse gig and recording kit for decades. I made a few changes though, as by the late 80's who wanted that Sparkle wrap? I stripped it all off, and the drums actually sounded better without the wrap and all the glue. Of course ten years later the kit became "vintage" and I thought "oh well I'm never going to sell them anyway". I also swapped out the old Swivomatic tom mounts and used Gauger RIMS mounts with Yamaha hardware. (Pro tip: Yamaha tom arms fit Rogers tom mounts, and vice versa. I went all-Yamaha only because I was installing the RIMS anyway.) I rarely used the 13" tom so the single 12" was mounted off a cymbal stand, avoiding extra holes in the bass drum for a Yammie mount. In the early 90's I found a 24" bass drum of the same vintage, already stripped of its wrap, and added that to the ensemble. I of course wanted a 14" floor tom, but that size has always been rare. So I faked one by stripping an old Tama Superstar rack tom and adding legs (the Superstar lugs resemble Rogers from a distance). That gave me the option of a 20/14/12 kit or a 24/13/16. Both kits still sound better than almost any other kit I've played. 🥁
this that shit that got me into rDavidr all those years ago. very stoked to see stuff like this again, but also love the newer stuff.
That play through at the end was 🔥
Tremendous work on the kit! Looks great and sounds even better! Superb playing at the end, too!!
Crazy how attention to small details goes such a ling way. Also, beautiful job in the tuning as always
My brother owned an all white Rogers drum kit. He loved it and it did sound pretty good.
I have this same kit and have wanted to freshen it up for years. Thanks for this!
Nice work! Love to see your restorings😍
And also very nice fills at the end🙌
Early morning upload always hit the best bro 💯🥁
Goo Gone citrus. Excellent for removing decals, stickers and adhesive residue left by decals and stickers.
These old kits surely deserve some love along a good rinse or two!
Always stoked to see this type of video from this channel.
David knew the people were begging and pleading and had to hit us with a classic video style lets fucking go
Very happy to see this type of video pop up. The aluminum foil trick is clutch. Works so well for Hoops.
Love it when you do this kid of video, looks great!
MAN WOW I LOVE YOUR STYLE WHAT A GROOVE DUDE U KILLIN IT!
I feel amazingly satisfied by this.
always so satisfying to see old kits come back to life
Hell yeah!
”Babe, wake up! New rdavidr just dropped”
Always great videos! I watch them over and over and over again. Favorite channel EVER!!!
This man makes every kit sound awesome. Great playing and restoration.
This is an instant classic rdavidr video
Nice work man! Even when it's not your kit and the owner says "I don't care" about this or that, your care is evident throughout.
I'm the owner and you're correct; David takes excellent care in everything he does.
I didn't want the insides painted as I wanted to preserve.the original paint. And the hoop inlay was left off as I know Champagne Sparkle from that era is difficult to match up.
I can assure you, David did a class A job on my kit!
they look great but they sound even better. I have a slingerland kit from the late 60s. It still sounds amazing
Restoring old kits is so much fun and so satisfying. Nice job!
ROGERS ARE GREAT DRUMS from the 60's era. Way ahead of their time. Both Tama and Yamaha stole their chops from Rogers. Great vid!
We had a blue sparkle one at Moscow High, Idaho in the 90's.
This kit came out amazing! Awesome work!
Beautiful kit and some great cleaning advice. I love my 76 Rogers Spanish Gold kit and it’s always a pleasure to see these beauties given some TLC. Great video as always.
slick playing at the end!! kit looks amazing too of course
Great video.
I've cosmetically restored a number of old drums, some of which were really filthy. I've found that L.A.'s Awesome Cleaner dissolves grease and other stuff from chrome hardware really well; Bon Ami 1886, which has only fine silica powder and soap, polishes chrome very well and gets built-up stuff off without penetrating the chrome (stay away from other abrasive cleansers, which have chemicals and harsher abrasives, such as Bartender's Friend); rust on chrome hardware will come off with a little bit of elbow grease and some QuickGlo Chrome Cleaner and polish (others may work as well, but I"ve only used QuickGlo); WD40 to remove stickers without much scraping (works really well on paper stickers as it soaks through to the adhesive), but you have to clean it off afterwards; and Pledge will polish wrap finishes and painted wood hoops very well if they are in good condition - just note it will make them slick so you'll have to hold on to your drums tightly after you use it.
I have also found waxing the bearing edges on old drums with a good furniture paste wax (not Pledge, the kind sold in a flat can) also helps - the edges are clean and slick after polishing and the drums seem to tune easier. Just be sure to be careful polishing the edges with exposed wood, as the polishing cloth could snag and pull out a bit of the edge. Not a problem on old drums with paint slathered all over the edges and the inside of the drums! I have also used it on the edges of a modern birch Tama set and I believe it helped the drums tune easier and sound more lively. Maybe that's a subjective drum voodoo hack for you to destroy in a future video!
Keep up the good work!
Cracking job, RDR... Bravo sir! 👍🏻
The Ron Swanson of drums, I love these drum cleaning and restoration vids.
i LIVE for the little stop-motion bits in these videos.
You did an amazing job and the kit sounds awesome! I feel like you really vibed with it on that outro jam.
Guys, rdavidr uploaded a kit restoration video! It’s nice to see another one
I missed the old restore drum kit videos. Came out really well for what it was.
The " Whisp" of lithium grease was the magic ,that put the resto over the top ! Love it, Dave. That is a beautiful kit. Who ever owns it is lucky. Those old Rogers drums are killa. Fantastic shells. Great video brother.
Nice work
Enjoyed your grooving at the end
Please make more of these videos 😊
Damn dude great work and great playing at the end. Those drums and cymbals sound great. Especially those hi-hats
Take me for a ride in the ole K5. I used to go four wheeling in one on the weekends and drive it to work Monday. I wish they still built vehicles like that.
Excellent work! Very well done.
Those fills were very nice. very very nice.
22 min video, I watched from beginning till end. great stuff rdr
My fave: your kit restoration videos! This was great!❤🥁❤
Yea, back to the old rdavidr videos. Thanks for this. Inspiring me to work on some drums I have that need it.
That kick sounds fantastic
So much great info - thank you david 🫡
Great restoration! Really missed this kind of videos
Amazing restore! As the kids say “this is soo satisfying!”
This may have been my favorite video of you playing. That was SWEET! That was groove baby!
Your F-150 looks nice dude.. Love the body style and color way.
Oh, good work on the kit, too :D
that's how I clean the kit good job sir
Great job David!
Golden content. Thanks so much!
Great job on that little kit. Those fills at the end were sick!!
I'm actually restoring my dad's Roger's from 68-72. Super cool since I just took all the lugs off for some deep cleaning. Perfect Saturday drop!
Vintage rDavidr, love to see it 👌
Big fan of the channel. You always blow me away at how seamlessly you edit straight into demoing the kit. Awesome
They sound and look amazing!
i used to looooove cleaning vintage kits/drums when i bought them, late 90's, early 2000's. i'd put on jazz albums and take everything apart, basic clean everything, re-assemble, re-tune. so fun, such a good time-killer. was mostly into 60's Ludwigs, but did end up with some 50's/60's Gretsch, one single 60's Slingerland COB snare, a 60's Yamaha kit, even have 1 single 14" Leedy floor tom (of all things...) but never ended up getting ANY Rogers stuff. a lot of it looked pretty cool, but it was always a little pricier (along with Grestch) at that time. the swivomatic hardware was apparently simultaneously awesome and awful, lol. people were always looking for those longboard pedals...
Nice kit I'm impressed with your playing great technique
Fantastic job David good sounding drums
Hey Man, thanks for doing one of these, woke up this morning thinking its 4 weeks since last video and it would be awesome if you turned this channel back several years as this was the content I always enjoyed the most! Your good at it, have great ideas and funny enough I always love tearing into and old kit and seeing the challenges. Thanks for making my day🤘
Fantastic job as always! I want a kit like this for my studio. I have a *big,* modern DW Collector's Series kit (13"x9" rack, 18"x18" floor, 24"x18" kick and a 24"x14" kick), a good collection of cymbals and several different snares but I want to add a slightly smaller, vintage style kit like this. Like a Rogers, Ludwig, Gretsch. I think between two "house" kits like that, I'd have most of the bases covered from bebop jazz and Motown to modern rock and metal and everything in between.
Allways so satisfying
They came out great!
Yes please give us those good vibrations rdavidr
Nice groove and fills man!!!
Nice set and very good job 👍👍👍
Two theories as to what "Paragon"means. It's a band sticker, or Neil Peart's cymbal line. Wholesome viewing pleasure, as usual!✌🏼
Need a Blazer restoration vid!
For cleaning Chrome use Aluminum Foil and regular White Vinegar and if you'd like a little bit of table salt to help with the scrubbing, the vinegar eats/dissolves rust and gunk super fast without damaging the Chrome finish.
It works bc White Vinegar is a weak acetic acid, and acetic acid is an excellent rust remover, but it'll cut through more than just rust and rust stains though, it also works on hard water stains, lime scale, calcified deposits in AC units, shower stalls and bath tubs etc. It's like CLR/Calcium Lime and Rust remover you can buy, its just 100 times cheaper.
Just be sure if you're using it on metals like Iron or Steel to wipe then down with a Baking Soda and Water solution to neutralize the acid in the White Vinegar, or else it can eat into the metal. White Vinegar has been my go to rust remover and cleaner for years, I highly recommend it. 👍👍
Nice work! They sound great!
Back in the mid 1990s someone gave me one of these Rogers Holiday kits... way before the vintage drum craze hit. I kept it for years, but eventually I moved out of state and gave it away to another person in a garage sale. Hopefully someone is playing them!
These sound amazing!!
I love this restoration videos
I like this type of restoration video ❤
When it comes to the smaller hardware pieces, I find it very easy to run them in the dishwasher. Even hoops if they aren't too big. I have had excellent results that way.
Buckaroo cymbal cleaner cleans chrome really well.
NICE! Kit looks and sounds amazing,and that funky instrumental was very well executed on Drum's! Couldn't have come at a better time as Ive been kit hunting and found a Rogers kit same era for decent price,wasnt sure how though on sound,and im definitely lovinng it...Bada..dota..da...McRogers