Abyss truly was the Kane of TNA. Despite being booked through so many terrible matches and story-lines, he still ended up being one of the most fondly remembered parts of the promotion's original run.
@@PWPH1984 I have always found it very ironic that someone who had a very similar gimmick also got booked in the same very high highs and very low lows.
Abyss was a big part of TNA and wanted to stay there as much as he could and see the company progress through the years and even rejected an offer to fight the undertaker at wrestlemania for more time on TNA
FCW did an interesting version of it where they had all the wrestlers start outside the ring, but they were given 30 seconds to get into the ring. Only those who were in the ring after those 30 seconds would take part in the battle royal, so for the first part of the match, you had the first wrestlers in the ring fighting to keep everyone else on the outside while others tried to sneak around and find openings. It was sloppy but it made more sense conceptually than what TNA did.
I remember watching TNA because it was so different from WWE. The Six sided-ring and matches like the Ultimate X Match and King of the mountain match were original matches I remember fondly but, I forgot how crazy TNA used to go with the stipulations.
I know you guys work hard during this time of year but this is honestly my favorite time to be a cultaholic fan! Keep up the awesome content we really love and appreciate them
They actually said they did a bulk of their work for this time of the year weeks ago so they could actually take the break off without killing themselves with 20 hour days
The original concept of Feast or Fired to write Curry Man off to bring Christopher Daniels back was actually kind of smart. What happened to Chavo should have been a lawsuit.
I loved the concept of feast or fired match It had reminiscent of money in the bank match but at the same time it was different If tna had two weekly shows which wasn't likely but that stipulation would have worked better with the fired one leaving for another show But they didn't have any 2nd show so the stipulation kinda felt odd But feast or fire had potential if it was in wwe or even in aew it would have worked better Multiple storylines could have been created New tag team would have formed and it would be far easy to elevate a mid carder to main events
Poor Abyss. He sold the weight of those big ole Halloween store tombstones and then Sting just casually picked them up and moved them around no problem. They did my boy so dirty always
@michaelellyden2580: "Judy Bagwell on a Forklift" has to be the uppermost. Even ripped off Miss Stella Mae French in a Semi in World Class!😂🎤💃🚛🛣🤼♀️B.W.
I still love the story that Lockdown was created because Dixie Carter didn't understand sarcasm. There was talks of a cage matches and after a while Dusty said, "Why don't we make them all cage matches?!" Dixie thought this was a great idea and ran with it. That hospital remark reminded me of something from last week or weeks prior NXT. Vic Joseph mentioned a local hospital and you could see him wince after that line, either because he was being yelled at or knew he would be. Committed, that should be Shaw's biography title. He's stayed committed to that general gimmick for years. Well, they did specify two falls. I feel like that should be a stipulation. You HAVE TO get two falls, rather than just getting one and calling it a win. The newest Botchamania has Homicide telling the story of the Steel Asylum. It sounds like a shit show from start to finish. Lastly, damn if Daffney didn't get the short end of the stick during her time in TNA.
I was personally there for the Fish Market Street fight Still don’t know how me and my dad didn’t get hit by a fish when Bubba Ray was chucking them into the crowd
@pressplayulysses The fact that one of them is still alive and kicking is something I cannot believe, but am glad about anyway, even though I'm pretty much 99.99% WWE.
The King of the Mountain match is goofy as hell, especially when someone wins, they hang a belt just to take it back down again. A KOTM match should've been between two champions with the object being to take your opponent's belt and hang it up high before the belt gets raised out of sight and the opponent loses their title. Hated rivals could get one over on each other by literally taking away their opponent's belt, a future title shot contract, or even their TNA contract. High stakes matches with plenty of scope for creative booking and finishes.
@@Deadguy2322forreal i mean, it is. sounds more exciting than seeing 8 morons fight in one hexagon, seeing one or more put in gay baby jail for a while and seeing someone hang a title they'd then pull down and win anyway. the thought of a match where two champions or rivals fight to screw over the other sounds super cool
I liked the original Monsters Ball stipulation, the idea was they would go crazy and I suppose become monsters and originally most of the competitors were pretty crazy, like Raven and Abyss so it wasn't that ridiculous for them to subject themselves through it. Plus it did differentiate it from other hardcore matches. Yeah 24 hours always seemed a bit much, sat in the dark with a straight jacket for a bit would be enough but it did give us an amazing Raven promo where he's tied up and filmed in night vision making him seem truly insane and demonic. Raven actually really sold the concept of the match actually 'Leaving me in a room by myself was a major mistake because being crazy was the only thing that kept me from going insane'
This really makes me appreciate the simplicity of Dragon Gate's survival cage match. And they seem to slightly modify the rules every time they do it. For anyone not familiar, the basic part: put x guys in a cage, put x - 2 flags at the top of the cage, get a flag and you can leave, last two go to pinball or submission, loser faces punishment. I know it sounds convoluted, but it's legitimately my favourite match type.
Your anger at tna is sooo funny. They were naff AF. Especially vince russo and his obsession of putting things on poles. Not sure that he wouldn't like your idea for him, though. Lol
I remember that a wrestling company in Mexico called AAA also did their version of the electric steel cage match in many occasions. To me it looked way better in that promotion than at Impact Wrestling
I still have to give props to the Styles Rhino elevation X finish for how clever the fix was. Styles gets out a bag of "blinding powder" to try to throw it in Rhino's face. Of course because it was his spot Rhino countered and AJ got hit with the powder. And then he ended up being the one to take the bump and lose. It wasn't "blinding powder". It was powdered grip chalk so AJ could be grabbing the support bars underneath and control his fall before letting ago.
I watched very very little of TNA back in the day, but Abyss more than anyone else stood out to me for his look alone. I'd agree that the Kane comparison fits!
I thought the idea of Feast or Fired was that these were wrestlers who were going to be "future endeavored" or who wanted to leave the company, or, in the case of Curry Man, they were getting rid of the gimmick. I had no idea that Chavo wasn't informed beforehand that this was going to happen. That really sucks.
im sure the Dupp-Cup inspired The Hard 10 tournament in 2003. a points based, hardcore match tournament, that sees wrestlers gaining points for using weapons - weapon hit 1 point, table 5 points (i think) first to 10 points, but you had to win by being 2 points clear of your opponents score - so if the points were 9 - 9, you needed to get 11 it actually win the match.
I think you mean inspired by also I think it's a pretty cool idea goose Jeremy borash? meh idk hit the ticket lady encourage flaming tables the poop can f*** off everything else sounds like ECW inspired gold. Dress Jeremy up like Borat then we can call him Jeremy Borat and stick him on a pole
@@bungle0h521 might have been it was 20 years ago nearly tna's first year in business. we didn't get it over here till the second was fully underway so the first 3 years kind of melt into each other. Might have even been before Dixie Carter got involved super low budget by the looks of it
Russo: Poker card match! When you get a pin you hafta pick a card! You get the ace o' spades your frickin' fired! You get the king o' diamonds you get all the belts! You get any otha card; all belts are vacated and you gotta date Brook Hogan! Try not to catch yourself on her jaw, that thing can draw blood.
I remember looking up the mid to late 2000's roster of TNA back when Angle, Styles, and Samoa Joe were there, and when I saw Shark Boy's profile pic I told myself "if they have a Shark Boy, I'm not watching."
The electrified cage match sounds cool on paper, until you realize one thing: they have made several throughout the decades and *none of them* ever worked.
First I thought 'Lads should have made three videos out of it! Who's gonna watch that much BS in a row?' but suddenly half an hour was over and I was very sports entertained.
I don't have to imagine stepping on a thumbtack, I have done it. One single one hurts like a son of a bitch. And that was just one. The worse part was pulling it out again... stung for days. At least I have even more respect for the people who take that bump now. I never could. Also taking that fan whipping actually made me respect the guy.
The original Monster Ball's gimmick... if you have ever suffered thru solitary- 24 hours, in dark, no food, no water, no daylight...oh, you are a wild animal.
I love how half of these matches involve Abyss or Raven in some way.
Abyss truly was the Kane of TNA. Despite being booked through so many terrible matches and story-lines, he still ended up being one of the most fondly remembered parts of the promotion's original run.
@@PWPH1984 kanekind
@@PWPH1984 I have always found it very ironic that someone who had a very similar gimmick also got booked in the same very high highs and very low lows.
Abyss was a big part of TNA and wanted to stay there as much as he could and see the company progress through the years and even rejected an offer to fight the undertaker at wrestlemania for more time on TNA
AJ Styles and Jeff Hardy too
TNA May Not Have Been WCW Quality entertainment but it has a special place in my heart
EXACTLY!!! It was good for what it was!!!
@@Xsinister51X In a lot of ways TNA was the natural assessor to WCW.
One of the things I liked about Feast or Fired was when Curryman got fired, he was confused thinking he got a title shot at the "fire championship".
And then Christopher Daniels returns shortly after 😹
@@RealFolkTV Funny how that works.
@@RealFolkTV the funny thing is, Christopher Daniels got fired in this same stipulation
@@woobgamer5210 Looks like the fallen angel is next to return.
@ big boss man you scam
Trevor Murdoch had like six total matches in TNA and somehow two of them was a Raven's House of Fun match and an "I Quit" match against Booker T.
That is so weird seeing where he is now, NWA Champion. Nuts how wrestling is
Alternate title: Why Vince Russo should never be allowed to be involved in creative decisions for literally anything, ever.
Is that you Jim??
Yes because that's why everywhere Russo went ratings went up.
@@mitchcolburn1216 source?
@@joshwolff-martin167 It's common knowledge my guy. Quit being lazy and look it up, you can find past TV ratings online
😂💯
The only cage match in TNA we wanted was the one we never got: Ultimate X inside the Six-Sides of Steel.
They could have had the perfect excuse for "why aren't they using a ladder".
A closed steel cage with a roof
The Reverse Battle Royal still has to be one of the most absurd stipulation in TNA history.
It was perhaps the most stupid stipulation in wrestling-
Vince: This ain't Olympics, WTF is wrestling man?
Me: Oh, sorry, sports entertainment.
Aaaaand it’s back at tonight’s Slammiversary lol
@@Kingofb0ngstyle Well.. the world is a weird place.
FCW did an interesting version of it where they had all the wrestlers start outside the ring, but they were given 30 seconds to get into the ring. Only those who were in the ring after those 30 seconds would take part in the battle royal, so for the first part of the match, you had the first wrestlers in the ring fighting to keep everyone else on the outside while others tried to sneak around and find openings. It was sloppy but it made more sense conceptually than what TNA did.
The AWA pioneered that strange variation under the Joe Blanchard era with "The Behind The 8 Ball Battle Royal" in the early Nineties.🤔🎤🎱🤼♂️B.W.
I remember watching TNA because it was so different from WWE. The Six sided-ring and matches like the Ultimate X Match and King of the mountain match were original matches I remember fondly but, I forgot how crazy TNA used to go with the stipulations.
I know you guys work hard during this time of year but this is honestly my favorite time to be a cultaholic fan! Keep up the awesome content we really love and appreciate them
They actually said they did a bulk of their work for this time of the year weeks ago so they could actually take the break off without killing themselves with 20 hour days
@matt gee someone likes a youtube channel jesus christ cope harder
@@zackuloidgh3267 Gotta love those internet tough guys
The original concept of Feast or Fired to write Curry Man off to bring Christopher Daniels back was actually kind of smart. What happened to Chavo should have been a lawsuit.
I loved that feast or fried
i mean, the result was in the name.
Lawyer: “Mr Guerrero, did you actually read the rules of the feast or fired match?”
I loved the concept of feast or fired match
It had reminiscent of money in the bank match but at the same time it was different
If tna had two weekly shows which wasn't likely but that stipulation would have worked better with the fired one leaving for another show
But they didn't have any 2nd show so the stipulation kinda felt odd
But feast or fire had potential if it was in wwe or even in aew it would have worked better
Multiple storylines could have been created
New tag team would have formed and it would be far easy to elevate a mid carder to main events
@@basanta6120 Loser goes to Xplosion
Poor Abyss. He sold the weight of those big ole Halloween store tombstones and then Sting just casually picked them up and moved them around no problem. They did my boy so dirty always
I died laughing at the Dupp Cup rules! Holy shite that's too much!
I just about remember watching this on the day, but have since thought that it was a joke and didn't actually happen!😮
"hit your opponent in the ass with horsey poo"!
It would've lasted longer if they had it once/year.
Stan and Beau Dupp were over the top.........
Gave me a headache
@@Buffalo31It was a joke of a match, that's for sure.
Stan, Beau, and Jack Dupp.😂🎤🤼♂️B.W.
Well I learned from this video Vince Russo had some kind of sick obsession with cage matches and pole matches
I feel like I'm one of few that didn't mind most of these, and found them entertaining lol.
You need help lol
Me too I don’t get what is so wrong with it
@@ultimatum6786 In his defense, we can all have a laugh at the absurdity of these. Like we all laughed at those WWE trainwreck segments.
Might as well just do a video of the Top 357 Most Idiotic Vince Russo Gimmick Matches Bro, Ranked from Worst to 357th Worst. JOIN US!
you really thinks there's only 357 you're cute triple that at least
@michaelellyden2580: "Judy Bagwell on a Forklift" has to be the uppermost. Even ripped off Miss Stella Mae French in a Semi in World Class!😂🎤💃🚛🛣🤼♀️B.W.
I still love the story that Lockdown was created because Dixie Carter didn't understand sarcasm. There was talks of a cage matches and after a while Dusty said, "Why don't we make them all cage matches?!" Dixie thought this was a great idea and ran with it.
That hospital remark reminded me of something from last week or weeks prior NXT. Vic Joseph mentioned a local hospital and you could see him wince after that line, either because he was being yelled at or knew he would be.
Committed, that should be Shaw's biography title. He's stayed committed to that general gimmick for years.
Well, they did specify two falls. I feel like that should be a stipulation. You HAVE TO get two falls, rather than just getting one and calling it a win.
The newest Botchamania has Homicide telling the story of the Steel Asylum. It sounds like a shit show from start to finish.
Lastly, damn if Daffney didn't get the short end of the stick during her time in TNA.
Daffeny's punishment was the reason why I try to forget the Lockbox match ever happened.
TNA was crazy wasn't it
😂😂😂😂😂
And they still in business i still dont get it
They had a lot of dumb ideas. However, the Bound for Glory series tournament was so good and idk why people don’t copy the format.
I was personally there for the Fish Market Street fight
Still don’t know how me and my dad didn’t get hit by a fish when Bubba Ray was chucking them into the crowd
Gotta love how brutal Cultaholic is towards Vince Russo.
As it should be. He's involved in some capacity in the fall of two wrestling companies.
@pressplayulysses The fact that one of them is still alive and kicking is something I cannot believe, but am glad about anyway, even though I'm pretty much 99.99% WWE.
One thing I can say about TNA, they had a crazy or stupid idea and ran with it ten toes down. Ultimately shame was nonexistent.
Right at least they tried
I tried to forget the Lockbox match happened for obvious reasons.
@@malcolmcox18 As someone said about Vince Russo's booking, it can be good or bad but at least not boring.
The King of the Mountain match is goofy as hell, especially when someone wins, they hang a belt just to take it back down again. A KOTM match should've been between two champions with the object being to take your opponent's belt and hang it up high before the belt gets raised out of sight and the opponent loses their title. Hated rivals could get one over on each other by literally taking away their opponent's belt, a future title shot contract, or even their TNA contract. High stakes matches with plenty of scope for creative booking and finishes.
@@Deadguy2322forreal i mean, it is. sounds more exciting than seeing 8 morons fight in one hexagon, seeing one or more put in gay baby jail for a while and seeing someone hang a title they'd then pull down and win anyway. the thought of a match where two champions or rivals fight to screw over the other sounds super cool
I feel like a lot of these stips can be easily summed up as "Once Upon A Time, Vince Russo Was Born. The End"
The Rellik gag was fantastic
I liked the original Monsters Ball stipulation, the idea was they would go crazy and I suppose become monsters and originally most of the competitors were pretty crazy, like Raven and Abyss so it wasn't that ridiculous for them to subject themselves through it. Plus it did differentiate it from other hardcore matches. Yeah 24 hours always seemed a bit much, sat in the dark with a straight jacket for a bit would be enough but it did give us an amazing Raven promo where he's tied up and filmed in night vision making him seem truly insane and demonic.
Raven actually really sold the concept of the match actually 'Leaving me in a room by myself was a major mistake because being crazy was the only thing that kept me from going insane'
ever do a 24 hour shift? we do it for the army and you feel absolutely dead inside tired.
TNA was mental 😂
“2 men enter San Quentin armed with shivs and only one walks out alive” 😂😂😂 I love adams commentary
And Mr. Shaw became...Dexter Loomis...
Lumis
This really makes me appreciate the simplicity of Dragon Gate's survival cage match. And they seem to slightly modify the rules every time they do it.
For anyone not familiar, the basic part: put x guys in a cage, put x - 2 flags at the top of the cage, get a flag and you can leave, last two go to pinball or submission, loser faces punishment. I know it sounds convoluted, but it's legitimately my favourite match type.
Reverse pole match 😂
I can't believe how funny I found that stupid "Relic is Johnny Stamboli spelled backwards" joke
Your anger at tna is sooo funny. They were naff AF. Especially vince russo and his obsession of putting things on poles. Not sure that he wouldn't like your idea for him, though. Lol
7:19
Yo Dawg, we heard you liked Gimmicks, so we put a Gimmick, *INSIDE OF YOUR GIMMICK!*
An arm wrestling match in a steel cage? Don't you think that is a little bit "over the top"? 😆
This is not a joke that match was the blow off to the LAX versus James gang feud, which had been over a year long feud.
I see what you did there
I forgot that movie existed. 😂
We need more cage matches
Y'all are absolute legends. I love this channel.
Vince Russo came up with some of these matches and he wonders why he can't find work now.
I was in the building for that Fish Market Street Fight.. TV/PPV didn’t do that match justice. That was a funny ass night. 😂
How...How on Earth was the Black Brawl and Chain match not named "Cuffs and Collars"?
TNA always gave us great content, for better or worse
Some of these are hilarious. How can you hate them? 😂
I remember that a wrestling company in Mexico called AAA also did their version of the electric steel cage match in many occasions. To me it looked way better in that promotion than at Impact Wrestling
don't forget WCW's awful electric chair in a cage match
11:07 a wild slapnuts appeared!
russo and his poles
gotta love it
"That's Johnny Stramboli spelled backwards." God damnit Adam lolol
So, lot of bad ones here, I mostly feel bad for Abyss, seems like he was apart of every other match you listed.
Judy Bagwell on a pole made me spit take 🤣
You need a video ranking every Vince Russo "On a Pole" matches
The Axe Handle on a Pole match...
Curt's dad was Larry "The Axe" Hennig...
Maybe that's what was going on inside the cavern of Vince Russo's head?
"Blood Gallows of Retribution" is the most metal thing I've ever heard
And I thought "dark trenches of apocalypse" was the most metal thing I ever heard
This countdown details Vince Russo's TNA Descent into Madness
I LOVED ultimate X matches !!! The freshest idea in a long long time . So much innovative things you can do
27:44 - 27:52
Me everytime TNA announces a new style of cage match
Axe handle on a pole absolutely makes no sense.. it's almost like one of the guys in it was the son of a wrestler nicknamed THE AXE.. smh
The fact that there is 35 of these is the most TNA thing ever. (I loved some TNA stuff don’t get me wrong). They just always did off the wall shit
Never realized how much TNA loved their cage matches.
TNA was total batshit crazy but boy was it entertaining.
I thought the fish market match was great! The ending was hilarious!
I still have to give props to the Styles Rhino elevation X finish for how clever the fix was. Styles gets out a bag of "blinding powder" to try to throw it in Rhino's face. Of course because it was his spot Rhino countered and AJ got hit with the powder. And then he ended up being the one to take the bump and lose. It wasn't "blinding powder". It was powdered grip chalk so AJ could be grabbing the support bars underneath and control his fall before letting ago.
Lacy von Erich and Mike Knox are the heels of my puberty.
I actually really liked that little isolation aspect of the Monsters Ball Match
“And the latter portion”… yuk yuk yuk 🤣
As soon as I saw "on a pole" I KNEW who had booked it
35?! Jeezus!
I thought there was five of em
“Then you’d have to hang them over the ropes and choke them out until they DIED” lol amazing
How to scare Cultaholic.
A Pole match, but in a Cage inside a Cage inside another cage
Good lord. 35 stips
I wasn't keeping count but it felt like Abyss was in at least half of these
he was the Kane of TNA . You have a shit stipuation or storyline in mind you book Abyss in it
I watched very very little of TNA back in the day, but Abyss more than anyone else stood out to me for his look alone. I'd agree that the Kane comparison fits!
Yes 35! Good thank u.
Say what you will about TNA's gimmick matches but that's what I love about TNA. Willing to think of and try something new.
I thought the idea of Feast or Fired was that these were wrestlers who were going to be "future endeavored" or who wanted to leave the company, or, in the case of Curry Man, they were getting rid of the gimmick. I had no idea that Chavo wasn't informed beforehand that this was going to happen. That really sucks.
I missed Daffney so much. 😭
Not gonna lie, I popped huge for the "That's Johnny Stamboli spelled backwards!" line. 😂
This is real informative ngl. Now I don't gotta sit thru most of TNAs weirdest ideas
The electrified cage match sounds like an epileptic's nightmare.
Vince Russo is the mortal avatar of the dark god "Ko'kane"
The point system is not so bad if you doing it right. 1 pt for a pin, 2 for tap out and so on. I think that could be cool.
im sure the Dupp-Cup inspired The Hard 10 tournament in 2003.
a points based, hardcore match tournament, that sees wrestlers gaining points for using weapons - weapon hit 1 point, table 5 points (i think) first to 10 points, but you had to win by being 2 points clear of your opponents score - so if the points were 9 - 9, you needed to get 11 it actually win the match.
I think you mean inspired by also I think it's a pretty cool idea goose Jeremy borash? meh idk hit the ticket lady encourage flaming tables the poop can f*** off everything else sounds like ECW inspired gold. Dress Jeremy up like Borat then we can call him Jeremy Borat and stick him on a pole
thought the Dupp Cup Invitational was 2002,
and the Hard 10 Tournament was 2003
@@bungle0h521 might have been it was 20 years ago nearly tna's first year in business. we didn't get it over here till the second was fully underway so the first 3 years kind of melt into each other. Might have even been before Dixie Carter got involved super low budget by the looks of it
Russo: Poker card match! When you get a pin you hafta pick a card! You get the ace o' spades your frickin' fired! You get the king o' diamonds you get all the belts! You get any otha card; all belts are vacated and you gotta date Brook Hogan! Try not to catch yourself on her jaw, that thing can draw blood.
The blindfold cagematch between America s Most Wanted can be considered Death Sentence material
The worst wrestling matches in TNA were the knockouts lockbox challenge and blind fold match
There's chairs everywhere!! Why does it have to be on a pole??? 😂
I remember looking up the mid to late 2000's roster of TNA back when Angle, Styles, and Samoa Joe were there, and when I saw Shark Boy's profile pic I told myself "if they have a Shark Boy, I'm not watching."
This is one of the most funniest list you guys have made 😅😂
Great job Adam. Always enjoy your list videos
I had no idea that Rellik was Johnny Stamboli.
This list was extremely informative for that alone.
The electrified cage match sounds cool on paper, until you realize one thing: they have made several throughout the decades and *none of them* ever worked.
It worked in Japan. ORIGINAL fmw
@@jasonybarra3423 To be fair, I'm pretty sure in FMW they used an actually electrified cage. FMW was something else...
Ok I was late to the Impact party by 2 years but they did have some......."Interesting" match stipulations.
As crazy as it was, its still better than todays Raw!
Wait?!? The guy Anderson sent to the asylum...was that Dexter Lumis?
First I thought 'Lads should have made three videos out of it! Who's gonna watch that much BS in a row?' but suddenly half an hour was over and I was very sports entertained.
The ending always makes me cry from laughing so much just from the depiction of it 🤣
Man whatever! Didn't make me laugh so it aint funny BROTHER!
27:43 Adam’s meltdown gets me laughing every single time
I think we all need a "Vince Russo on a Pole - Match" ; )
Ooo I love a top 35 list
I don't have to imagine stepping on a thumbtack, I have done it. One single one hurts like a son of a bitch. And that was just one. The worse part was pulling it out again... stung for days.
At least I have even more respect for the people who take that bump now. I never could.
Also taking that fan whipping actually made me respect the guy.
The original Monster Ball's gimmick... if you have ever suffered thru solitary- 24 hours, in dark, no food, no water, no daylight...oh, you are a wild animal.
just started watching cultaholic dude your comentary is halarious i watch them just to see what u say next love it man awesome
This was in my feed again, watched it again
Love these end of year things