Orion, NT from AGN here. Well done sir! That DIY will undoubtedly help a lot of people that have been on the fence about trying it. However I'm sorry your barrel turned out the way it did. Now you have to buy the pricey Polymags :) Your method has several little differences compared to mine and your results speak for themselves so that just goes to show there's more than one way to get to the finish line. I will say I initially thought you may have done the Rolite polish and J-B in the wrong order. I haven't used the Rolite but they're calling it a polish. Of course "polish" is not a quantitative term but I do not consider J-B to be a polish so my assumption was those two would have been better done in reverse. However I saw your reply below addressing this: "I have had more than one person on the comments recommending starting with the JB paste first, but when I tried on my knife I had the feeling this metal polish had a bigger grit than the JB paste, I can "hear" and "feel" the polisher but with the paste was more like applying a wax, smooth, that's why I followed that order. " Perfect! For others reading along, if you're wanting to improvise different abrasive compounds, that's exactly what you want to do. Try them on a piece of polished steel like a knife blade and see if it hazes the surface or takes it to a finer polish. In order to help knock down the surface fretting left over from the drawing and/or rifling processes, most new bores are going to benefit from starting with something coarse enough to haze a polished surface. Then move on to a finer compound if desired.
I cant remove the crown of my break barrel. Its a Cros nitro piston with a "silencer" at the end. Yet my brass cleaning rod wont reach the crown. Should I leave the crown alone or just come in with the rod on the other side. The crown is steel so the brass brush shouldnt ruin the crown?
Yep, polishing a bbl. can do wonders. Even more so in a slug shooter. I like to end with a polish with German Flitz no abrasive polish. In one of my Custom Talon/Dor 257's the gun went from a 50 shot gun before accuracy suffered, to a 300+ shot gun. The FX superior heavy slug barrel I installed in the Raptor can go for a couple thousand slugs now. Unreal! Nice vid! KnifeMaker
Mike!! Nice to see you on the channel! WOW 300+ shots is unreal. I'm planning using slugs on this barrel again. The last time I use them the accuracy was outstanding. I need to test them now after the polishing, at least pellets did great. This metal polish works really fast, I have had more than one person on the comments recommending starting with the JB past first, but when I tried on my knife I had the feeling this metal polish had a bigger grit than the JB past, I can "hear" and "feel" the polisher but with the past was more like applying a wax, smooth, that's why I followed that order. You are using a different polish, German Flitz and no abrasive, maybe with that one the order can be inverted like some have suggested. Have you tried this Rolite before? The knife I tested this looks like a mirror! I'm amazed by that stuff
No Sir, I'm not familiar with the product Rolite. I do sometimes cheat. I have quite a selection of professional Knife polishing compounds here that I from time to time melt onto a bore swab and put af finishing polish on the bore. A full blown mirror. I remember Matt D. stating that a full polish was not good as a textured glass window would allow your finger to glide over it, where as a normal clear glass would squeak and have more friction. . I guess he forgot that we use lube. Which gives exactly the opposite results. ;
@@michaell397 wow, reading your comment is learning guaranteed...hope you will keep commenting on my videos so everyone can learn from your wisdom... I'll give the silicone a try
A very nice demonstration of how to safely and effectively polish a bore. Thank you very much for your time and dedication to our sport my friend. Looking forward to the next video production.
I cant remove the crown of my break barrel. Its a Cros nitro piston with a "silencer" at the end. Yet my brass cleaning rod wont reach the crown. Should I leave the crown alone or just come in with the rod on the other side. The crown is steel so the brass brush shouldnt ruin the crown?
Very well done. I certainly thought it would have been more difficult. I’m going to polish my barrel immediately. The grouping at the videos end is impressive.
Jake my friend!! Merry Christmas! Not difficult at all, and products are not expensive at all. I bought wrong rod and find out while filming, had to stop everything, buy new rod, wait for it tyen resume filming, see how the first scene on my garage I hace a white shirt then a green one!!!!
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter I didn't notice the shirt change but I am well aware of the difficulties in recording at different dates. Your videos are great I enjoy watching!
Thank you for this video bud. I just realized how thick the barrel is on your gun. My most consistent PCP…meaning the one gun that is almost never knocked out of POI and almost never needs adjusted, also has the thickest barrel. My .25 caliber SK-19 has a barrel that is thicker than barrels I have on some of my rim fire rifles. 1/2”-5/8” or so. I think these PCPs with thinner barrels are more dependent on the shrouded and barrel bands to maintain POI. I bet you seldom have to adjust your scope on your RTI. That would make a heck of a truck gun in a compact rifle configuration bud. My SK-19 hangs all the time by hooks on the head rests of my truck. One supports the stock by the magazine and the other supports the LCD. On or off road vibrations and stress do not effect my accuracy. I take shots frequently past 100 yards on pigeons and it never fails to hit the spot. Really good design RTI came out with. Stay safe and God bless you and yours my friend.
Yes I too noticed the wobble on some. Cleaning and polishing sure worked well for groups and shooting those iguanas in the head takes precision for sure very small target area!
Alex my friend! Don't think too much! Just do it! Hey if you can't find the right products over there, well you will need at least the metal polish but I think that should be available there, maybe not the same brand but I think any metal polish should work, but check this out. A guy told me he used a paracord rope, need to find the right diameter for the barrel, he added the polisher to the rope and used around 10 meters of ropes, and push the rope one time through the barrel... another clean rope to remove material and done! In less than 5 mins it was polished, very very interesting.... Happy Holidays for you too my friend
That’s an impressive improvement. I paid someone to do that for one of my barrels. If I had known it was that simple, I would have done it myself. Well done!
I do the pretty much the same process but use the JB bore paste first...its more abrasive and deep cleaning and then follow up with the metal polish...I use Flitz metal polish! Great video anyhow and it looks like it works your way too...lol. James from Michigan
Hi James, You are not the first one mentioning those two products and the order change, using JB first. I tried the Rolite on my knife and I can tell you that it feels way more abrasive than the JB, while applying I could even hear the grit, the JB was feeling more like a wax. Maybe the rolite is too abrasive and I should have tried with Flitz.... Or maybe I should do this... Rolite, JB, then Flitz, for a more fine polish, I can try that on my knife but to tell you the true, Rolite alone was awesome, it started with the high grit and looks like after applying the particles becomes finer and finer, I don't know how to describe it, I really liked that product, give it a try and polish something first to feel how the product work, I'm really impressed with it.
Don't be afraid of hurting the crown!! Rub the mop out of the end of the barrell to polish the pellet exit,. Barrels are super tough and the mops have soft metal,,. Lol first bore compound then polish,. And you can use a mop I in a drill to polish the chamber.., great video
I just followed what I read and just wanted to do that.... You are not the first one saying bore compound first then polish, to me... this metal polish is way more abrasive than the bore compound.... I tested the products on my knife and with the metal polish I can feel the grit, like if I were doing a sanding... I just followed what I though was the finer product at the end.... maybe another polisher has a finer grit but this one is serious, if you ended up buying, give it a try, my knife looks like a mirror! I just hope my barrel looks the same!
Great work Erlis very much appreciated. I do believe I will give this a whirl on all my rifles to see what happens. My Armada is one of my "untouchables" in that it is extremely accurate just the way it is but ever so often I see a wobbler and/or get an odd shot result so a polishing should really tighten this rifle's results. Another product that I use in all my firearms and air rifles is FP-10 Lubricant elite by Shooter's Choice. I live where the temperatures range a lot, esp in winter. This stuff is good from -49F to 500degrees F! I have never had issue hunting elk in Montana where the temperatures can dip to -20degrees F during the hunt. No action or trigger freezing, works the same warm and cold. Ballistol oil and FP10 are the only things I use on my air rifles.
Hi Bret! I have FP-10 but I've never used it on the airguns, I wasn't sure it was safe on the o-rings, I know that FP-10 is magical, I used to have a door that always was giving the terror movie sound, a couple of drops of FP-10 and for months no more sound, magic! I'll give it a try on the barrel! Great idea
I used a Napier pull through kit to clean the barrel first. always push a few pellets through first so you can gauge where any tight spots are that might require extra work. I just use Autosol and a length of cotton hem tape 3 - 4 times the length of the barrel with a few knots tied close together in the middle. I pull knotted section end to end (but not out of the muzzle ) about 20 times. Next clean with the pull through kit and push a few more pellets through. If still feeling any tight spots concentrate on those areas only clean with the pull through kit and try a few more pellets through. You can use this to reduce an extra tight choke too but will need to check the crown afterwards.
Thanks for sharing - very informative. When you switch between pellets be sure to shoot a few through your gun before doing groups. This will “season” the barrel for the new pellet. I noticed in vid with the Hades and Kings., your first shot was off a little and the rest dialed in good. Keep up the good work!
Really good video good process explained step by step well done .In Europe vfg did a polishing kit and it was excellent with PCP barrels and good quality pellets.All the best stay safe.Tony
Just use WD silicone spray on the pellets then let them air dry and you won't ever have a dirty barrel. 8000 shots with my impact mk3 and it's still super clean. Not regular WD 40, it's the yellow can of WD 40 silicone edition spray. You soak all your pellets then spread them on a towel to dry for a day and your barrel will neer gum up again as long as you always pre-treat new tins of pellets every time. Pro extreme bench rest shooters do this.
I've done that and works great, thanks for sharing... One small issue with that is that I paint my pellets and the spray will gets in the way... What a mess I did tye other day 😂
Another tip ,I make my own pellets and slugs in all calibers and I found when I use a sizer on my slugs i also use it on my pellets and i saw a great improvement in accuracy and they cycle smoother i even do it to my store bought they cycle so smooth you wont believe it .
I've polished regular rifle barrels, but am just getting into air rifles. My first air rifle will be here Feb 10 and thanks to your video I feel comfortable polishing an air rifle too. Keep up the good work.
try first without polishing, use it for a while, then do the polishing if you noticed you need to clean for accuracy...I have having that on this barrel and I'm really happy with the groups I'm getting right now
Wow Erlis, that was a very helpful video. I don't shoot as much as you do but I run a rope through my barrels after about 100 shots. Once you polished your barrel your groups were amazing!! Great job, Primo.
Yes the rope is a good way to clean the barrel, I have yet to try that! The idea with polishing is that we will remove the micro burrs created around the rifling so less lead is catch on the groves and so less damage to the pellet and less dirt accumulated over time, it looks like it worked, but as I said on the video, only time will tell. I was experiencing some accuracy issue because barrel was needing a clean, will see now! Hey Merry Christmas primo!!!
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter If I remember correctly, I mentioned to you that I saw some pellets wobbling. Well you certainly took care of that. Feliz Navidad mi primo.
Ian! I think the polish was a success, hey if you give it a try let me know in the comments, I'll love to know your experience! Happy holidays for you too!
First of all thanks. For very informative video an excellent way to polishing barrels it’s really good to know how to do an what to use. Ones again thanks an god bless you
Nice that it worked out good for you. Did do the polishing thing years ago on my AA Pro Target in 177. Did not work out very well. Barrel was/is a CZ S200. Did take the better part of a tin of pellets to lead the barrel and shoot wel again. Since then I only clean my barrels when groups get bigger. Use a pull through til the patch gets clean. Then shoot up to 20/25 times to settle. Never had good grouping from a super clean barrel. Counting in my power burners. Also find it fascinating that different pellets shoots equally well. Maybe cause they are all by JSB. Again happy for you that it worked out so well. And wish you Merry Christmas and a Healthy , Happy New Year.
Different barrels like different methods, I remember my Taipan was similar to what you are describing. But in this rifle I noticed that after a clean the groups are great. Maybe it has to do with the tolerances inside the barrel, if it's too tight vs a bit more lose. The fact these 3 pellets did well is not because they are JSB, you can see how the Polygams were doing before, not a single hole! Hades were grouping also before but not as well as this time... I have a video I posted like 3 months ago where I'm shooting all different kind of pellets and you can see the groups there. I think what you saw in this video is because the polishing
Excelente informacion El proceso de pulir los cañones siempre ayudará a la precision, al igual que un cañon limpio. A lo largo del tiempo he comprobado que los rifles que tienen muchos disparos hechos, siempre agrupan mejor si estan limpios. Es un hecho que este proceso de pulir deberia realizarse con cada rifle nuevo, puesto que la maquinaria que hace el estrillado realmente no pule al 100%. Es por eso que todos los rifles tienen un periodo de asentamiento que oscila entres 200 y 500 disparos, y es porque los pellets hacen el trabajo de pulir los cañones. Sigue adelante y duro con las iguanas. saludos desde guatemala
Not sure about that product. I use the JB bore cleaner followed by the bore bright. I coat an oil soaked felt plug and pull through 3 times then clean with oil. My results have been perfect every time. The rifling is so thin on airguns you really have to be careful. Love your content. Makes me want to come visit and shoot some iguanas with you.
Solid video Orion, polishing the barrel made a huge difference in those groups. The proof of concept is when you smash some iguanas at 60 plus yards...lol. Thanks for making this video, I have a few pcps that produce subpar groups, hopefully this will help. Again thanks for bringing this to video. Happy holidays and stay safe.
Thanks Billy! Merry Christmas my friend, I'm really waiting to take the gun out for a hunt after this! Also want to see a slow motion JSB to see if the wobble is fixed now.
Very informative. I will try this process out tomorrow. Just found you .. I've worked as a wildlife control officer, but have never heard of shooting iguanas. Looks like fun! Liked and subbed to support a fellow Youtubing Outdoorsman and air gunner!
I use JB bore paste and Kroll Oil in my center fire guns and only 1 piece coated rod for past 25 years. Great job and excellent shooting. Happy New Year, may 2021 be a great year for you.
Yes, JB is very common on center fire guns, it did wonders on my barrel :) I think you just polish once and the one quick cleaning should keep everything back to shine again
Awesome video brotha dam that some awesome shooting buddy I did the same thing too my taipan I polished the barrel as well great stuff have a merry Christmas 🎅 thanks for sharing bsafe
Happy holidays my friend. Great video. I may try this on my SK-19 .25 Calibers Polygonal barrel. It shoots lights out for about 300 rounds but after the barrel leads up a bit and the groups start to open up. That’s for showing us how buddy. Never tried this before. God bless and stay well.
Heat my friend, give it a try and let le know my friend. It's duper easy to do and doesn't take that long. With this and silicone tip slugs, iguanas better run!!
Thanks!!! I love the time stamp, because they are useful also when you are coming back to the video and quickly find the portion that you want to see..
For STX barrel, do we have to take the transfer port off before polishing the barrel? Can we take the liner out and polishing? Can you give me an advice to polish STX barrel? Thank you
I’ve used Flitz and Mothers to polish. Used mop to apply and just ran tight patches to clean. I can get more pressure in the interior of the barrel & rifling with patches.
If it worked that way great! I read that with just patches can take long to get a polish, but if it worked for you awesome! As I said, I'm not an expert, I just tried what I read and I saw a big improvement! The rod was just $7 and the mops were really really cheap also. Actually I'm considering using this to apply ballistol on the barrel and use the crown saver just to remove the ballistol and clean it dry
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter - I’m with you on not being an expert. I’m sure there are countless ways to do things are work well. Just wanted to let anyone researching know that patches work also. I like the tight fit I could get with patches and a jag for removing polish. But again, not saying my way is correct or the only way. Good video. Amazing the improvement after the process.
@@motorgearhead Another person on the comments told me that the good thing with patches is that you move the material in a single direction and with the rod you push back "dirt" material, this kind of make sense... also I read about how a guy takes a rope and put the polisher on the rope and uses probable 20 yards or rope and just push the rope one pass and done, polished! I've been learning a lot by reading the comments! Thanks for posting, really appreciate it!
I'm a machinist and honestly when you're polishing, you can go back and forth. The mop will conform to the interior surface. What is important is to clean it well between the two polishing compounds. What its doing is hitting any high spots and smoothing out any rough surfaces. The mop will not change the inner diameter of the bore and thats a very good thing.
You got that right! Not difficult at all, I struggle because bought the wrong rod and then the thread was not the same, and lost a week of filming basically
Only had to do it to one barrel, a BAM cchinese daystate hunsman clone but boy what a differnce, it was as good as any of my walther or bsa barrels afterwards, who says you can't polish a turd?
Jose, if you do that you can damage the rifling, no drill, the rod I'm using rotates with the rifling, even when using a rod, if it doesn't rotates you can damage the rifling. Now about brass brush....the idea is to polish so you need something smooth, the brass is not going to polish..... maybe for cleaning you can use that but I personally prefer cleaning the barrel with cotton swab.
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter Hola, te entiendo pero tengo una teoría. El tema de los cañones smooth twist de FX (la idea original no es de FX, es de Ben Taylor en prototipos que vi hace casi 15 años) tienen un ánima semilisa desde el transfer port hasta N centímetro de la corona. Las ventajas del este tipo de cañones es, sobretodo, que no se necesita tanta potencia al evitar rotacion y deformidad severa en el pellet. Imaginemos por un momento que cojes un cañon y le pones una baqueta con una terminacion de BRASS (mucho más suave que el acero) y le añades pulimento y te dedicas a pulir durante horas (cambiando el brass, por supuesto) dejando sin pulir los últimos 15/20 cm. Conseguiriamos mejor precisión? No lo sé. Lo que tngo seguro es que las rebabas del transfer port o los malos mecanizados del inicio del cañon lo dejarás a la mínima expresión. Por cierto como es el cañón CZ de RTI? He visto en Klibrguns algunas deficiencias (subsanables pero deficiencias) en el mecanizado. El tuyo es L-W? Gracias!!!!
RTI saco dos "barrels" el del Prophet is completamente diferente, tiene un twist rate mas lento, creo que lei que es 1 en 32 y esta disennado para long range pellet, aunque hay quienes lo usan con slugs tambien, pero yo en lo personal no lo he usado. El que tiene mi rifle (el Priest2) es un CZ con twist rate 1 en 17 y me gusta muchisimo, pues es preciso con casi todos los pellets que he probado y tambien tira slugs... hay un video que puse por ahi y los grupos son increibles.... una de las razones que no me he comprado el Prophet es porque me gusta mucho este cannon
I use the same method but i found it better to start with jb compound BEFORE the polishing compound becose the jb is grittier and will clean better the barrel before polishing. Polish will work better then.
I tried the jb paste vs the Rolite in a knife I have and to me the Rolite was more aggressive, but that might work too. To be honest we probably don't need JB, that Rolite polish like nothing I've seen before. I used JB at the end to remove the Rolite material. I think either way will work
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter u can also heat the barrel with a heat gun before polishing for better results. And what i do when the mop becomes too lose and thin is to cover it with a cleaning patch to make it thicker and get more contact with the grooves
@@yvessehnaoui3532 I have used the JB Compound for years. (Sparingly and never with a metal brush.) I've always swiped up and down the fill length of the barrel 25 times then cleaning patches with Ballistol. I've never tried metal polish. I believe I will have to pass on the polish. But to each his own. It all results in a clean barrel, which is the main point.
Just watched your video for the first time and it does make sense when you sit down and think about it I tend to watch videos like this with an open mind and way the arguments for and against in my head aswell as the evidence shown, I've had lots of people say to me don't clean the barrel cos it will reduce accuracy and take ages to lead back up and other people say to do it every tin or so, did you shoot fresh bore straight away after cleaning or did fire some shots through before you did your grouping test shots, anyway good video pal
Great video Erlis. I’m probably gonna try that. Lighter pellets don’t group well at 75 yards in my priest. I’ve been shooting 34.9 JSB fine but can’t get the speed I’m looking for. Thanks for the info. Peace bro. Almost forgot, I really like the color change on your Priest.
My dear friend! Give it a try! I also noticed this gun likes heavier pellets. If you are using the short barrel of the Priest, you are not going to get big speed... A friend of mine has a Prophet, and the 34.9 are going at 1000fps with the regulator at 180 bars.
True, check the videos I did about tuning the RTI and you will see how reduced wooble by reducing speed. The polishing really helped tightening some groups with other pellets that were not grouping well before
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter I did work with air flow on engine heads to increase volume and air velocity ! This is an area the air gun industry needs to look at more , unlike powder guns which have an abundance of power and velocity the air gun industry doesn’t have that luxury ! I think we are going to see some pretty innovative air chamber designs , regulators and air porting designs to increase velocity , therefore increasing shot count as well ! The small caliber bullet shape & design as well as the cooking mechanism and pellet placement in both depth and alignment to the lands will show an improvement in accuracy ! Every little bit helps to improve Airgun performance ! I will share what I find when I polish the barrel , bet there are many pellet guns in closets that could turn out to be good shooters with barrel polishing and attention to detail ! 😁
Feliz Navidad Erlis. Muchas gracias por tu aporte a este gran deporte. Continúa haciendo lo que estás haciendo, cada vez te sale mejor, un maestro. Este video me viene como anillo al dedo, Santa leyó mí carta y el .25 R3M Short me lo mando el 24 con el delivery de USPS. Ahora a probarlo sin pulir el barril y luego tu vídeo es perfecto para el pulido del barril y ver la diferencia. Nuevamente Erlis, un abrazo grande y muchas gracias por tu dedicación, tiempo y pasión. Feliz año nuevo. PD: en cuanto estas iguanas dejen de congelarse nos juntamos a exterminarlas y aprovechas para probar el rifle, el Prophet estaba en la lista pero 🎅 parece que lo tenía en la bolsa....lol Patricio
Patricio! Muchas gracias a ti amigo por el mensaje tan amable que me has dejado! No soy maestro aun, aprendo cada dia y me esfuerzo por mejorar, la vida es una gran escuela. Wow yo creo que un dia pronto me voy a comprar uno como el que Santa te trajo, por ahora estoy trabajando en un proyecto mio (de mi sitio) para los rifles de FX asi que me voy a comprar uno para asi poder desarrollar las partes que quiero, pero siempre me ha gustado mucho el EdGun, tiene todo lo que me gusta de un rifle. Como no amigo, cuando pase esto nos ponemos de acuerdo y vamos juntos y acabamos con un poco de iguanas!
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter Se que te gusta ya que con tus aportes en Airgun Nation he aprendido mucho. Tus comentarios sober el RTI Priest crearon mi interes e hice mi research, hermoso rifle. Continua con tu development en la plataforma del Priest y en este caso FX....les estas demostrando lo que un tipo decidido, perceverante e instruido puede hacer. Nadie te para y me parece muy bien y como debe ser. Mis respetos y un abrazo. Me dejas saber lo que necesites por la zona de South Miami. PD: A mi me sucedio igual que a ti, hace casi 10 anos, cuando comencé a involucrarme con airguns (Sunshine Airguns, en la calle 8 el Palmetto, tremendo lugar) no pude creer la camaraderia, generosidad y deseo de ayudar de sus miembros. Y con tus videos y aportes, los cuales descubri hace solo unos meses decidi volver a este hobby, saque el Airforce Condor 22 y comence con los mods y tunes. Aquí estamos para lo que necesites. Y mi mujer ya esta informada que es culpa de Erlis todos los airgun related credit card charges de ahora en adelante...lol....ya tu sabes!!!! Patricio
Escribeme a mi email plavayen88@gmail.com . Me gustaria mostrarte una modificacion que tiene este Edgun que te puede venir bien para agregar a tu sitio. Esta completa y muy interesante. Patricio
Awesome man I need to do this to my taipan barrel I noticed that the crown has a weird little peace of metal missing i don't know why or need to re crown the barrel
Hello, I have a Benjamin Marauder PCP in .25 that has a Green Mountain barrel. I just can't get it to shoot tighter groups than around 8-9 inches at 70 yards. It's crazy, I know but that's what it does. Regardless of ammo, pellet or slug. Have you ever heard anything like that? Do you have any suggestions?
Yes I think that will be better. I tested on a knife before doing the barrel and got good results with the order I did but to be honest I think I should have done it like you are saying...
great post buddy, very intensive, i wonder if you opted to pulled a cotton swab through the barrel till clean if it would have the same effect. also how does the effect of leading in the barrel improve the groups after say 10 groups /50 pellets. merry Christmas
The cotton swab can polish it but it will take longer, some people are telling me on the comments they use that procedure to polish the barrel.... I think the method I liked better was to find a paracord diameter that fit snug and then applying the polisher to the cord (around 10 to 15 yards) and pass the rope through the barrel, one pass, polished, then another clean rope to remove the material... I want to try that!!!
Great video Sir! It looks like it has been about 3 months since you posted this, how has the cleaning worked out? Have you noticed any difference in how often your barrel needs light cleaning now?
Matt, sorry I missed your comment. It definitely improved, I noticed a lost in accuracy at about the six month mark. Previously I was cleaning every month
Thanks for showing this id been looking for a video on polishing a diy polishing video. With the bearing in handle does the rod automatically rotate when going back and forth? Thanks cheers
Sounds like English is your second language, so not to criticize, but educate, Tipton is tiiiipppp ton. They make great shooting products. Just found your channel, thanks for your showing your process for lapping barrels. Do you do springers, or specially compressed air rifles? Seeking a mid priced scope for a Diana 48. Any advice appreciated!
Hey my friend I really appreciate you are clarifying how to said that. I wasn't sure what was the way I said it. You are right English is my second language and I appreciate when I get corrected, not just in english but in everything in life, that's how I've learned all.... I do have a springer and that Diana 48 you are mentioning can destroy a scope if it's not springer rated. I have an Athlon Talos 4-14x44 on my springer and so far so good. My gun is not magnum but Athlon gives me lifetime warranty, so if the scope goes bad I'll send it back.... I'll recommend to research a bit more because I'm bot 100% sure it will work on your Diana
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter I’m going with him tomorrow, I just ordered the RTI prophet 2 it should be arriving soon. It looks like a sweet rifle, he told me about your channel and that you shoot one
I just cleaned the barrel last week for the first time, I noticed some spirals again and did a quick clean with ballistol, not polishing again, I think after you polish once you don't need to polish again, the idea is to eliminate the micro burs left behind by the rifling process.
Can you do this to breakbarrels & my Hatsan Flashpup? Or do they need it or more for high end guns. I wish I lived close to one of you guys to show tare down & lube & tune & setup. Keep them coming I might get it. Information is good
Orion, NT from AGN here. Well done sir! That DIY will undoubtedly help a lot of people that have been on the fence about trying it.
However I'm sorry your barrel turned out the way it did. Now you have to buy the pricey Polymags :)
Your method has several little differences compared to mine and your results speak for themselves so that just goes to show there's more than one way to get to the finish line.
I will say I initially thought you may have done the Rolite polish and J-B in the wrong order. I haven't used the Rolite but they're calling it a polish. Of course "polish" is not a quantitative term but I do not consider J-B to be a polish so my assumption was those two would have been better done in reverse. However I saw your reply below addressing this:
"I have had more than one person on the comments recommending starting with the JB paste first, but when I tried on my knife I had the feeling this metal polish had a bigger grit than the JB paste, I can "hear" and "feel" the polisher but with the paste was more like applying a wax, smooth, that's why I followed that order.
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Perfect! For others reading along, if you're wanting to improvise different abrasive compounds, that's exactly what you want to do. Try them on a piece of polished steel like a knife blade and see if it hazes the surface or takes it to a finer polish. In order to help knock down the surface fretting left over from the drawing and/or rifling processes, most new bores are going to benefit from starting with something coarse enough to haze a polished surface. Then move on to a finer compound if desired.
Wow! What a great honor to read your reply! Thanks for that! Very much appreciated!
I cant remove the crown of my break barrel. Its a Cros nitro piston with a "silencer" at the end. Yet my brass cleaning rod wont reach the crown. Should I leave the crown alone or just come in with the rod on the other side. The crown is steel so the brass brush shouldnt ruin the crown?
Outstanding shipmate. Press on. USS Kitty Hawk CV-63. Jan 1980 to July 1983. Air gunner for life.
Yep, polishing a bbl. can do wonders. Even more so in a slug shooter. I like to end with a polish with
German Flitz no abrasive polish. In one of my Custom Talon/Dor 257's the gun went from a 50 shot gun before accuracy suffered, to a 300+ shot gun. The
FX superior heavy slug barrel I installed in the Raptor can go for a couple thousand slugs now. Unreal!
Nice vid!
KnifeMaker
Mike!! Nice to see you on the channel! WOW 300+ shots is unreal. I'm planning using slugs on this barrel again. The last time I use them the accuracy was outstanding. I need to test them now after the polishing, at least pellets did great.
This metal polish works really fast, I have had more than one person on the comments recommending starting with the JB past first, but when I tried on my knife I had the feeling this metal polish had a bigger grit than the JB past, I can "hear" and "feel" the polisher but with the past was more like applying a wax, smooth, that's why I followed that order. You are using a different polish, German Flitz and no abrasive, maybe with that one the order can be inverted like some have suggested.
Have you tried this Rolite before? The knife I tested this looks like a mirror! I'm amazed by that stuff
No Sir, I'm not familiar with the product Rolite. I do sometimes cheat. I have quite a selection of professional Knife polishing compounds here that I from time to time melt onto a bore swab and put af finishing polish on the bore. A full blown mirror. I remember Matt D. stating that a full polish was not good as a textured glass window would allow your finger to glide over it, where as a normal clear glass would squeak and have more friction. . I guess he forgot that we use lube. Which gives exactly the opposite results. ;
@@michaell397 wow, reading your comment is learning guaranteed...hope you will keep commenting on my videos so everyone can learn from your wisdom... I'll give the silicone a try
A very nice demonstration of how to safely and effectively polish a bore. Thank you very much for your time and dedication to our sport my friend. Looking forward to the next video production.
Thanks my friend!! Appreciated the kind words!!
Big difference after the barrel cleaning Orion. Stay safe and happy holidays. All the best
Thanks my friend, yes a big difference! Enjoy the holidays and it's nice to see you around!
I cant remove the crown of my break barrel. Its a Cros nitro piston with a "silencer" at the end. Yet my brass cleaning rod wont reach the crown. Should I leave the crown alone or just come in with the rod on the other side. The crown is steel so the brass brush shouldnt ruin the crown?
Can’t wait for the next video! Iguanas are freezing so maybe that will help. Happy holidays, stay well and keep safe! Best wishes!
Yes iguanas are freezing so am I :) Happy holidays and thanks for the best wishes, same to you!
Very well done. I certainly thought it would have been more difficult. I’m going to polish my barrel immediately. The grouping at the videos end is impressive.
Jake my friend!! Merry Christmas! Not difficult at all, and products are not expensive at all. I bought wrong rod and find out while filming, had to stop everything, buy new rod, wait for it tyen resume filming, see how the first scene on my garage I hace a white shirt then a green one!!!!
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter I didn't notice the shirt change but I am well aware of the difficulties in recording at different dates. Your videos are great I enjoy watching!
Thank you for this video bud. I just realized how thick the barrel is on your gun. My most consistent PCP…meaning the one gun that is almost never knocked out of POI and almost never needs adjusted, also has the thickest barrel. My .25 caliber SK-19 has a barrel that is thicker than barrels I have on some of my rim fire rifles. 1/2”-5/8” or so. I think these PCPs with thinner barrels are more dependent on the shrouded and barrel bands to maintain POI. I bet you seldom have to adjust your scope on your RTI. That would make a heck of a truck gun in a compact rifle configuration bud. My SK-19 hangs all the time by hooks on the head rests of my truck. One supports the stock by the magazine and the other supports the LCD. On or off road vibrations and stress do not effect my accuracy. I take shots frequently past 100 yards on pigeons and it never fails to hit the spot. Really good design RTI came out with. Stay safe and God bless you and yours my friend.
Yes I too noticed the wobble on some. Cleaning and polishing sure worked well for groups and shooting those iguanas in the head takes precision for sure very small target area!
Great tutorial. Thanks. You are a great asset to the air gun community.
Heck, man, now you got me thinking... 🤔 Nicely done, Erlis! 👏 Happy holidays!
Alex my friend! Don't think too much! Just do it! Hey if you can't find the right products over there, well you will need at least the metal polish but I think that should be available there, maybe not the same brand but I think any metal polish should work, but check this out. A guy told me he used a paracord rope, need to find the right diameter for the barrel, he added the polisher to the rope and used around 10 meters of ropes, and push the rope one time through the barrel... another clean rope to remove material and done! In less than 5 mins it was polished, very very interesting.... Happy Holidays for you too my friend
That’s an impressive improvement. I paid someone to do that for one of my barrels. If I had known it was that simple, I would have done it myself. Well done!
Is not that difficult, just need to know what to buy!
I do the pretty much the same process but use the JB bore paste
first...its more abrasive and deep cleaning and then follow up with the metal polish...I use Flitz metal polish!
Great video anyhow and it looks like it works your way too...lol.
James from Michigan
Hi James,
You are not the first one mentioning those two products and the order change, using JB first. I tried the Rolite on my knife and I can tell you that it feels way more abrasive than the JB, while applying I could even hear the grit, the JB was feeling more like a wax. Maybe the rolite is too abrasive and I should have tried with Flitz.... Or maybe I should do this... Rolite, JB, then Flitz, for a more fine polish, I can try that on my knife but to tell you the true, Rolite alone was awesome, it started with the high grit and looks like after applying the particles becomes finer and finer, I don't know how to describe it, I really liked that product, give it a try and polish something first to feel how the product work, I'm really impressed with it.
Don't be afraid of hurting the crown!! Rub the mop out of the end of the barrell to polish the pellet exit,. Barrels are super tough and the mops have soft metal,,. Lol first bore compound then polish,. And you can use a mop I in a drill to polish the chamber.., great video
I just followed what I read and just wanted to do that.... You are not the first one saying bore compound first then polish, to me... this metal polish is way more abrasive than the bore compound.... I tested the products on my knife and with the metal polish I can feel the grit, like if I were doing a sanding... I just followed what I though was the finer product at the end.... maybe another polisher has a finer grit but this one is serious, if you ended up buying, give it a try, my knife looks like a mirror! I just hope my barrel looks the same!
Wheeler bore lapping kit you shoot the pellet after putting the compound 3diffant grit works awesome
Yeah!! Someone mentioned that already, I should give it a try, less work! I'm lazy :)
Great video my Brother! That looks like it really straightened out your accuracy issues! Well done!
Happy New Year! Stay safe!
Thanks Robert! You are right, I see a big improvement! Be safe my friend! Happy New Year to you too!
Great work Erlis very much appreciated. I do believe I will give this a whirl on all my rifles to see what happens. My Armada is one of my "untouchables" in that it is extremely accurate just the way it is but ever so often I see a wobbler and/or get an odd shot result so a polishing should really tighten this rifle's results. Another product that I use in all my firearms and air rifles is FP-10 Lubricant elite by Shooter's Choice. I live where the temperatures range a lot, esp in winter. This stuff is good from -49F to 500degrees F! I have never had issue hunting elk in Montana where the temperatures can dip to -20degrees F during the hunt. No action or trigger freezing, works the same warm and cold. Ballistol oil and FP10 are the only things I use on my air rifles.
Hi Bret! I have FP-10 but I've never used it on the airguns, I wasn't sure it was safe on the o-rings, I know that FP-10 is magical, I used to have a door that always was giving the terror movie sound, a couple of drops of FP-10 and for months no more sound, magic! I'll give it a try on the barrel! Great idea
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year my friend! Be alive and healthy everyone at home!
Hey Svilen my friend, Happy New Year buddy! Hope everything is good with you and your family!
I used a Napier pull through kit to clean the barrel first. always push a few pellets through first so you can gauge where any tight spots are that might require extra work. I just use Autosol and a length of cotton hem tape 3 - 4 times the length of the barrel with a few knots tied close together in the middle. I pull knotted section end to end (but not out of the muzzle ) about 20 times. Next clean with the pull through kit and push a few more pellets through. If still feeling any tight spots concentrate on those areas only clean with the pull through kit and try a few more pellets through. You can use this to reduce an extra tight choke too but will need to check the crown afterwards.
Great tips, thanks for sharing!!!
I just saw a thread on this on Airgun Nation.... this youtube algorithm is getting straight meta now 😂
That's weird ehh!? I got a lot of info probably from that same thread! ... and I'm reading your mind!!!
Thanks for all the work you put into sharing your knowledge with us and hope you've had a very Merry Christmas!
Happy holidays my friend! Hope you are doing great! Thank you for checking this out!
Thanks for sharing - very informative. When you switch between pellets be sure to shoot a few through your gun before doing groups. This will “season” the barrel for the new pellet. I noticed in vid with the Hades and Kings., your first shot was off a little and the rest dialed in good. Keep up the good work!
That's why I said, I haven't even season the barrel and this is the group! I was impressed with these results!
Looks like it worked well! Thanks for the demo.
Love the new camera job on the Priest! Turned out Awesome 👌
It worked really well!! I liked the camo colors a lot...but I know that some kids will miss the man with the red gun!!
Really good video good process explained step by step well done .In Europe vfg did a polishing kit and it was excellent with PCP barrels and good quality pellets.All the best stay safe.Tony
Thanks for the info! Happy New Year Tony!! Take care!
Just use WD silicone spray on the pellets then let them air dry and you won't ever have a dirty barrel. 8000 shots with my impact mk3 and it's still super clean. Not regular WD 40, it's the yellow can of WD 40 silicone edition spray. You soak all your pellets then spread them on a towel to dry for a day and your barrel will neer gum up again as long as you always pre-treat new tins of pellets every time. Pro extreme bench rest shooters do this.
I've done that and works great, thanks for sharing... One small issue with that is that I paint my pellets and the spray will gets in the way... What a mess I did tye other day 😂
Good video. I have done a few of my air rifles and it seemed to help. Thanks for sharing. From NM. Stay safe and stay blessed. 👍🇺🇲🇺🇲✌
Richard! Happy New Year my friend! Thanks for sharing your experience with polishing! I'm a believer now!
Another tip ,I make my own pellets and slugs in all calibers and I found when I use a sizer on my slugs i also use it on my pellets and i saw a great improvement in accuracy and they cycle smoother i even do it to my store bought they cycle so smooth you wont believe it .
I've polished regular rifle barrels, but am just getting into air rifles. My first air rifle will be here Feb 10 and thanks to your video I feel comfortable polishing an air rifle too. Keep up the good work.
try first without polishing, use it for a while, then do the polishing if you noticed you need to clean for accuracy...I have having that on this barrel and I'm really happy with the groups I'm getting right now
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter Thank you for the guidance. I'll shoot it for a while before I do anything to it. Thank you.
Wow Erlis, that was a very helpful video. I don't shoot as much as you do but I run a rope through my barrels after about 100 shots. Once you polished your barrel your groups were amazing!! Great job, Primo.
Yes the rope is a good way to clean the barrel, I have yet to try that! The idea with polishing is that we will remove the micro burrs created around the rifling so less lead is catch on the groves and so less damage to the pellet and less dirt accumulated over time, it looks like it worked, but as I said on the video, only time will tell. I was experiencing some accuracy issue because barrel was needing a clean, will see now! Hey Merry Christmas primo!!!
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter If I remember correctly, I mentioned to you that I saw some pellets wobbling. Well you certainly took care of that. Feliz Navidad mi primo.
Great job. Looks like the polishing definitely made a difference. I'll have to try that!!! Happy holidays.
Ian! I think the polish was a success, hey if you give it a try let me know in the comments, I'll love to know your experience! Happy holidays for you too!
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter That's great I sure will. Im down a hand pump right now so no shooting for me 👎
Great vlog!! Learned a lot! Thank you and merry Christmas!
Happy holidays! Thank you for checking out! Really appreciated!!!
First of all thanks. For very informative video an excellent way to polishing barrels it’s really good to know how to do an what to use. Ones again thanks an god bless you
Great video on polishing the barrel and with great improvement in accuracy 🙂 Well done !! 🙂
Hi Soren! Thanks my friend!
Nice that it worked out good for you. Did do the polishing thing years ago on my AA Pro Target in 177. Did not work out very well. Barrel was/is a CZ S200. Did take the better part of a tin of pellets to lead the barrel and shoot wel again. Since then I only clean my barrels when groups get bigger. Use a pull through til the patch gets clean. Then shoot up to 20/25 times to settle. Never had good grouping from a super clean barrel. Counting in my power burners. Also find it fascinating that different pellets shoots equally well. Maybe cause they are all by JSB.
Again happy for you that it worked out so well.
And wish you Merry Christmas and a Healthy , Happy New Year.
Different barrels like different methods, I remember my Taipan was similar to what you are describing. But in this rifle I noticed that after a clean the groups are great. Maybe it has to do with the tolerances inside the barrel, if it's too tight vs a bit more lose.
The fact these 3 pellets did well is not because they are JSB, you can see how the Polygams were doing before, not a single hole! Hades were grouping also before but not as well as this time... I have a video I posted like 3 months ago where I'm shooting all different kind of pellets and you can see the groups there. I think what you saw in this video is because the polishing
Excelente informacion
El proceso de pulir los cañones siempre ayudará a la precision, al igual que un cañon limpio. A lo largo del tiempo he comprobado que los rifles que tienen muchos disparos hechos, siempre agrupan mejor si estan limpios. Es un hecho que este proceso de pulir deberia realizarse con cada rifle nuevo, puesto que la maquinaria que hace el estrillado realmente no pule al 100%. Es por eso que todos los rifles tienen un periodo de asentamiento que oscila entres 200 y 500 disparos, y es porque los pellets hacen el trabajo de pulir los cañones.
Sigue adelante y duro con las iguanas. saludos desde guatemala
Hola Guatemala!!!!! Un gusto tener a los latinos en mi canal! Un abrazo y Happy new Year!
Easy works awesome you roll the pellet in the grit shoot 10 -10 -20 on the last grit you can hunting and Polish the barrel at the same time
I'll like to try that
Great info right here brother! Thanks for sharing with us. Merry Christmas and happy New Years.
Same to you! Happy Holidays my friend!
You've done a great job on your gun, well done & thank you for sharing it with us.
Thanks for the kind words
Excellent information and well put across. Thank you and best wishes from the UK
Not sure about that product. I use the JB bore cleaner followed by the bore bright. I coat an oil soaked felt plug and pull through 3 times then clean with oil. My results have been perfect every time. The rifling is so thin on airguns you really have to be careful.
Love your content. Makes me want to come visit and shoot some iguanas with you.
thank you for sharing thay diy in polishing the barrel...watching from the Philippines
Thanks for watching, your channel looks really interesting. I'll watch it
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter thank you sir.
Out standing shipmate. Press on.
That's some really good, useful info, thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Solid video Orion, polishing the barrel made a huge difference in those groups. The proof of concept is when you smash some iguanas at 60 plus yards...lol. Thanks for making this video, I have a few pcps that produce subpar groups, hopefully this will help. Again thanks for bringing this to video. Happy holidays and stay safe.
Thanks Billy! Merry Christmas my friend, I'm really waiting to take the gun out for a hunt after this! Also want to see a slow motion JSB to see if the wobble is fixed now.
Excellent video,hope you and your family have a brilliant Christmas and New year, keep the videos coming ,all the best
Thanks for the kind words! I also hope you amd your family have a wonderful end of tye year. Happy holidays!!
Success, best groups I have ever seen put together!
Thanks Doug!
Very informative. I will try this process out tomorrow. Just found you .. I've worked as a wildlife control officer, but have never heard of shooting iguanas. Looks like fun! Liked and subbed to support a fellow Youtubing Outdoorsman and air gunner!
Thanks!! Really appreciated!!
Great instructional video. I do this to all my guns since I learned about it.
Hi Shane! I'm glad to know it works for you. I'm a believer now
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter I was surprised by how much it helped the first barrel I tried it on.
Merry Christmas 🎅Waw what a difference 👍
Happy Holidays!! Yes I was impressed with the groups, not a single flyer
Great video and very good information on barrel polishing , 🎯 outstanding accuracy 🎯
Thanks my friend!!! I'm really happy with the accuracy now! Need to test at 75 and 100
Very informative video. Now i have about 12 barrels to polish lol. Thanks and stay safe my friend
LOL Joe! Stay safe you too my friend!
I use JB bore paste and Kroll Oil in my center fire guns and only 1 piece coated rod for past 25 years. Great job and excellent shooting. Happy New Year, may 2021 be a great year for you.
Yes, JB is very common on center fire guns, it did wonders on my barrel :) I think you just polish once and the one quick cleaning should keep everything back to shine again
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter never crossed my mind on air gun barrels. Thanks for the idea.
Awesome video brotha dam that some awesome shooting buddy I did the same thing too my taipan I polished the barrel as well great stuff have a merry Christmas 🎅 thanks for sharing bsafe
Chris my friend!! The procedure is easy anf the groups are great! Happy holidays my friend!!
There are lapping compounds u can apply to ur slugs and just shoot them to get the same affect. RL air fun supply sells a good lapping compound.
that is pretty interesting.... no need to take anything apart, just shoot and enjoy your groups getting better and better.... Thanks for sharing!
Happy holidays my friend. Great video. I may try this on my SK-19 .25 Calibers Polygonal barrel. It shoots lights out for about 300 rounds but after the barrel leads up a bit and the groups start to open up. That’s for showing us how buddy. Never tried this before. God bless and stay well.
Heat my friend, give it a try and let le know my friend. It's duper easy to do and doesn't take that long. With this and silicone tip slugs, iguanas better run!!
giving like you for time stamp in description...for saving our times (ignoring your earning) :)
Thanks!!! I love the time stamp, because they are useful also when you are coming back to the video and quickly find the portion that you want to see..
Cool vid thanks, I've just bought a cheap kit off eBay but don't think it has a rotating handle. Whoops.
Great video, thank for showing polishing process.
Hi John! I'm glad you liked it!
For STX barrel, do we have to take the transfer port off before polishing the barrel? Can we take the liner out and polishing? Can you give me an advice to polish STX barrel? Thank you
I’ve used Flitz and Mothers to polish. Used mop to apply and just ran tight patches to clean. I can get more pressure in the interior of the barrel & rifling with patches.
If it worked that way great! I read that with just patches can take long to get a polish, but if it worked for you awesome! As I said, I'm not an expert, I just tried what I read and I saw a big improvement! The rod was just $7 and the mops were really really cheap also. Actually I'm considering using this to apply ballistol on the barrel and use the crown saver just to remove the ballistol and clean it dry
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter - I’m with you on not being an expert. I’m sure there are countless ways to do things are work well. Just wanted to let anyone researching know that patches work also. I like the tight fit I could get with patches and a jag for removing polish. But again, not saying my way is correct or the only way. Good video. Amazing the improvement after the process.
@@motorgearhead Another person on the comments told me that the good thing with patches is that you move the material in a single direction and with the rod you push back "dirt" material, this kind of make sense... also I read about how a guy takes a rope and put the polisher on the rope and uses probable 20 yards or rope and just push the rope one pass and done, polished! I've been learning a lot by reading the comments! Thanks for posting, really appreciate it!
I'm a machinist and honestly when you're polishing, you can go back and forth. The mop will conform to the interior surface. What is important is to clean it well between the two polishing compounds. What its doing is hitting any high spots and smoothing out any rough surfaces. The mop will not change the inner diameter of the bore and thats a very good thing.
Happy New Year to you and yours. Muchas gracias por sus videos. Stay healthy and safe.
Hola Amado. Muchas gracias a ud por su comentario. Mis mejores deseos para ud. y su familia
Nice job and good information. Your English is very good!
Thank you! 😃 I think you are the first one telling me my English is good :) That makes me happy :)
Interesting video. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it! If you give it a try let me know if it worked for you! Thanks for the comment!
Another awesome video my friend 😎 that’s a lot easier than lead lapping
You got that right! Not difficult at all, I struggle because bought the wrong rod and then the thread was not the same, and lost a week of filming basically
New sub, great vid and very nice results. Happy New Year all from the UK
Happy new year!!!
Great Video Buddy
Thanks my friend! Appreciated! Merry Christmas
Thank you for such a informative video. I was thinking about doing this!
Awesome! It's not difficult, and the results are great
Only had to do it to one barrel, a BAM cchinese daystate hunsman clone but boy what a differnce, it was as good as any of my walther or bsa barrels afterwards, who says you can't polish a turd?
Merry Christmas man and awesome video. Thanks to share it with us
Happy Holidays! Thanks for checking the video and leaving a comment! If you try that out, let me know your results
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter okay
Good info and excellent demonstration.
Bien hecho, amigo
Hola amigo! I'm glad you found this useful
If u polish, u dont need to add fresh pasta, just zde that Grey mix...
Pellets are overpowered,
Good video great production.
Thanks 🙏
Thank you too!
Hi, why dont use a brass brush and a rotate-automatic sistem like a drill?
Gracias!
Jose, if you do that you can damage the rifling, no drill, the rod I'm using rotates with the rifling, even when using a rod, if it doesn't rotates you can damage the rifling.
Now about brass brush....the idea is to polish so you need something smooth, the brass is not going to polish..... maybe for cleaning you can use that but I personally prefer cleaning the barrel with cotton swab.
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter
Hola, te entiendo pero tengo una teoría. El tema de los cañones smooth twist de FX (la idea original no es de FX, es de Ben Taylor en prototipos que vi hace casi 15 años) tienen un ánima semilisa desde el transfer port hasta N centímetro de la corona. Las ventajas del este tipo de cañones es, sobretodo, que no se necesita tanta potencia al evitar rotacion y deformidad severa en el pellet. Imaginemos por un momento que cojes un cañon y le pones una baqueta con una terminacion de BRASS (mucho más suave que el acero) y le añades pulimento y te dedicas a pulir durante horas (cambiando el brass, por supuesto) dejando sin pulir los últimos 15/20 cm. Conseguiriamos mejor precisión? No lo sé. Lo que tngo seguro es que las rebabas del transfer port o los malos mecanizados del inicio del cañon lo dejarás a la mínima expresión.
Por cierto como es el cañón CZ de RTI? He visto en Klibrguns algunas deficiencias (subsanables pero deficiencias) en el mecanizado. El tuyo es L-W?
Gracias!!!!
RTI saco dos "barrels" el del Prophet is completamente diferente, tiene un twist rate mas lento, creo que lei que es 1 en 32 y esta disennado para long range pellet, aunque hay quienes lo usan con slugs tambien, pero yo en lo personal no lo he usado. El que tiene mi rifle (el Priest2) es un CZ con twist rate 1 en 17 y me gusta muchisimo, pues es preciso con casi todos los pellets que he probado y tambien tira slugs... hay un video que puse por ahi y los grupos son increibles.... una de las razones que no me he comprado el Prophet es porque me gusta mucho este cannon
Great informative video and merry christmas👍
Happy holidays! I'm glad you found this video useful!
Excellent results!
Thank you! Cheers!
I use the same method but i found it better to start with jb compound BEFORE the polishing compound becose the jb is grittier and will clean better the barrel before polishing. Polish will work better then.
I tried the jb paste vs the Rolite in a knife I have and to me the Rolite was more aggressive, but that might work too. To be honest we probably don't need JB, that Rolite polish like nothing I've seen before. I used JB at the end to remove the Rolite material. I think either way will work
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter u can also heat the barrel with a heat gun before polishing for better results. And what i do when the mop becomes too lose and thin is to cover it with a cleaning patch to make it thicker and get more contact with the grooves
@@yvessehnaoui3532 I have used the JB Compound for years. (Sparingly and never with a metal brush.) I've always swiped up and down the fill length of the barrel 25 times then cleaning patches with Ballistol. I've never tried metal polish. I believe I will have to pass on the polish. But to each his own. It all results in a clean barrel, which is the main point.
Just watched your video for the first time and it does make sense when you sit down and think about it I tend to watch videos like this with an open mind and way the arguments for and against in my head aswell as the evidence shown, I've had lots of people say to me don't clean the barrel cos it will reduce accuracy and take ages to lead back up and other people say to do it every tin or so, did you shoot fresh bore straight away after cleaning or did fire some shots through before you did your grouping test shots, anyway good video pal
I shoot a couple of JSB to zero the scope, but just 4 or 5 shots
Great video Erlis. I’m probably gonna try that. Lighter pellets don’t group well at 75 yards in my priest. I’ve been shooting 34.9 JSB fine but can’t get the speed I’m looking for. Thanks for the info. Peace bro. Almost forgot, I really like the color change on your Priest.
My dear friend! Give it a try! I also noticed this gun likes heavier pellets. If you are using the short barrel of the Priest, you are not going to get big speed... A friend of mine has a Prophet, and the 34.9 are going at 1000fps with the regulator at 180 bars.
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter Maybe have to go with a barrel from the Profit. That’s 4 inches longer.
I just woke up to this video playing and before i even opened my eyes, I’m hearing a guy talking about polishing his “butthole.” 😅
great video buddy. thanks for sharing
Hey my friend! Hope you find this useful! Give it a try and let me know if you see an improvement on top of those awesome shots you guys do
velocity is a contributor to pellet wobble
True, check the videos I did about tuning the RTI and you will see how reduced wooble by reducing speed. The polishing really helped tightening some groups with other pellets that were not grouping well before
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter yes, your groups were awesome at the end, the polishing clearly was worthwhile
I have a few barrels I’m going to try this on , thanks for sharing !
If you do, please share with me your results, I'm curious to see if how it works for you!
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter I did work with air flow on engine heads to increase volume and air velocity ! This is an area the air gun industry needs to look at more , unlike powder guns which have an abundance of power and velocity the air gun industry doesn’t have that luxury ! I think we are going to see some pretty innovative air chamber designs , regulators and air porting designs to increase velocity , therefore increasing shot count as well ! The small caliber bullet shape & design as well as the cooking mechanism and pellet placement in both depth and alignment to the lands will show an improvement in accuracy ! Every little bit helps to improve Airgun performance ! I will share what I find when I polish the barrel , bet there are many pellet guns in closets that could turn out to be good shooters with barrel polishing and attention to detail ! 😁
Feliz Navidad Erlis. Muchas gracias por tu aporte a este gran deporte. Continúa haciendo lo que estás haciendo, cada vez te sale mejor, un maestro. Este video me viene como anillo al dedo, Santa leyó mí carta y el .25 R3M Short me lo mando el 24 con el delivery de USPS. Ahora a probarlo sin pulir el barril y luego tu vídeo es perfecto para el pulido del barril y ver la diferencia. Nuevamente Erlis, un abrazo grande y muchas gracias por tu dedicación, tiempo y pasión. Feliz año nuevo.
PD: en cuanto estas iguanas dejen de congelarse nos juntamos a exterminarlas y aprovechas para probar el rifle, el Prophet estaba en la lista pero 🎅 parece que lo tenía en la bolsa....lol
Patricio
Patricio! Muchas gracias a ti amigo por el mensaje tan amable que me has dejado! No soy maestro aun, aprendo cada dia y me esfuerzo por mejorar, la vida es una gran escuela. Wow yo creo que un dia pronto me voy a comprar uno como el que Santa te trajo, por ahora estoy trabajando en un proyecto mio (de mi sitio) para los rifles de FX asi que me voy a comprar uno para asi poder desarrollar las partes que quiero, pero siempre me ha gustado mucho el EdGun, tiene todo lo que me gusta de un rifle. Como no amigo, cuando pase esto nos ponemos de acuerdo y vamos juntos y acabamos con un poco de iguanas!
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter Se que te gusta ya que con tus aportes en Airgun Nation he aprendido mucho. Tus comentarios sober el RTI Priest crearon mi interes e hice mi research, hermoso rifle. Continua con tu development en la plataforma del Priest y en este caso FX....les estas demostrando lo que un tipo decidido, perceverante e instruido puede hacer. Nadie te para y me parece muy bien y como debe ser. Mis respetos y un abrazo. Me dejas saber lo que necesites por la zona de South Miami.
PD: A mi me sucedio igual que a ti, hace casi 10 anos, cuando comencé a involucrarme con airguns (Sunshine Airguns, en la calle 8 el Palmetto, tremendo lugar) no pude creer la camaraderia, generosidad y deseo de ayudar de sus miembros. Y con tus videos y aportes, los cuales descubri hace solo unos meses decidi volver a este hobby, saque el Airforce Condor 22 y comence con los mods y tunes. Aquí estamos para lo que necesites. Y mi mujer ya esta informada que es culpa de Erlis todos los airgun related credit card charges de ahora en adelante...lol....ya tu sabes!!!!
Patricio
Escribeme a mi email plavayen88@gmail.com . Me gustaria mostrarte una modificacion que tiene este Edgun que te puede venir bien para agregar a tu sitio. Esta completa y muy interesante.
Patricio
@@cabezamiami hoy tuve un día muy atareado, me puedes escribir a orioniguanahunter@gmail.com
That is a great ideal and I'll be doing it to my barrel.
Give it a try and let me know here how it went!! I'm very happy with the results
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter .... Yes I will , I just ordered it so it will be awhile before it comes in.
I have a Gamo Whisper, not the greatest rifle out there but I wonder if this would help the accuracy
Give it a try! Not that difficult to do
Awesome man I need to do this to my taipan barrel I noticed that the crown has a weird little peace of metal missing i don't know why or need to re crown the barrel
Thanks for the vid. tell us more about your target what inside it?
It's a rubber mulch box
Hello, I have a Benjamin Marauder PCP in .25 that has a Green Mountain barrel. I just can't get it to shoot tighter groups than around 8-9 inches at 70 yards. It's crazy, I know but that's what it does. Regardless of ammo, pellet or slug. Have you ever heard anything like that? Do you have any suggestions?
You can wash those mops in the washing machine ! Tie them up in a sock ! Wash in hot water !
I would do JB 1st, then the fine polish last or bore bright.
Yes I think that will be better. I tested on a knife before doing the barrel and got good results with the order I did but to be honest I think I should have done it like you are saying...
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By the way, I'm enjoying your mags. Good quality. 👍
great post buddy, very intensive, i wonder if you opted to pulled a cotton swab through the barrel till clean if it would have the same effect. also how does the effect of leading in the barrel improve the groups after say 10 groups /50 pellets. merry Christmas
The cotton swab can polish it but it will take longer, some people are telling me on the comments they use that procedure to polish the barrel.... I think the method I liked better was to find a paracord diameter that fit snug and then applying the polisher to the cord (around 10 to 15 yards) and pass the rope through the barrel, one pass, polished, then another clean rope to remove the material... I want to try that!!!
Great job 👍
Great video Sir! It looks like it has been about 3 months since you posted this, how has the cleaning worked out? Have you noticed any difference in how often your barrel needs light cleaning now?
Matt, sorry I missed your comment. It definitely improved, I noticed a lost in accuracy at about the six month mark. Previously I was cleaning every month
Thanks for showing this id been looking for a video on polishing a diy polishing video. With the bearing in handle does the rod automatically rotate when going back and forth? Thanks cheers
Yes the rod rotates following the rifling
Sounds like English is your second language, so not to criticize, but educate, Tipton is tiiiipppp ton. They make great shooting products. Just found your channel, thanks for your showing your process for lapping barrels. Do you do springers, or specially compressed air rifles? Seeking a mid priced scope for a Diana 48. Any advice appreciated!
Hey my friend I really appreciate you are clarifying how to said that. I wasn't sure what was the way I said it. You are right English is my second language and I appreciate when I get corrected, not just in english but in everything in life, that's how I've learned all....
I do have a springer and that Diana 48 you are mentioning can destroy a scope if it's not springer rated. I have an Athlon Talos 4-14x44 on my springer and so far so good. My gun is not magnum but Athlon gives me lifetime warranty, so if the scope goes bad I'll send it back.... I'll recommend to research a bit more because I'm bot 100% sure it will work on your Diana
This is also called Barrel lapping. It increases speed and accuracy in firearms, I’m not sure on air guns
Same on airguns
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter I heard you will be hunting with my friend Victor coming up soon. Florida iguana control?
@@joshyingling this is correct! We are going to meet soon
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter I’m going with him tomorrow, I just ordered the RTI prophet 2 it should be arriving soon. It looks like a sweet rifle, he told me about your channel and that you shoot one
@@joshyingling I have a compact now that is shooting wonderful. If you have questions on the gun reach out
So one year passed now , did it start to change accuracy again ? how long you started to redo the process to keep the accuracy maintained ?
I just cleaned the barrel last week for the first time, I noticed some spirals again and did a quick clean with ballistol, not polishing again, I think after you polish once you don't need to polish again, the idea is to eliminate the micro burs left behind by the rifling process.
Can you do this to breakbarrels & my Hatsan Flashpup? Or do they need it or more for high end guns.
I wish I lived close to one of you guys to show tare down & lube & tune & setup. Keep them coming I might get it. Information is good
Yes, this can be done too, just a bit more difficult because you can't remove the barrel but polishing will help there too
Thanks for sharing. Why can't the mop go out of the front of the barrel?
You don’t want to change the shape of the crown by removing randomly metal from the tip
@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter Oh makes sense. Thanks for replying.