Ranking WOW Cataclysm Melee DPS From Best to Worst

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  • Опубліковано 23 тра 2024
  • This is the overall ranking for melee DPS come Cataclysm Classic. This is obviously not set in stone, as rankings will fluctuate up and down based on the phase, and as Cataclysm isn't as tried and tested as other expansions, we may see new tech making certain classes stronger this time around.
    If you want to check out the other rankings, you can do so here:
    Tank: • Ranking WOW Cataclysm ...
    Healer: • Ranking WOW Cataclysm ...
    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    00:40 Frost DK
    02:10 Unholy DK
    03:51 Ret Paladin
    05:28 Arms Warrior
    06:49 Fury Warrior
    07:49 Enh Shaman
    08:56 Feral Druid
    10:21 Rogue
    12:24 Conclusion
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 136

  • @Jewcron
    @Jewcron Місяць тому +8

    The gameplay focused commentary whilst reviewing each spec's place in the xpac is genuinely impressive and succinct. Awesome video, seriously helpful.

    • @Dualities
      @Dualities 23 дні тому

      most of these videos are just repeating common misconceptions not really deep look and experience

  • @Dalex19
    @Dalex19 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for the vid! Def agree with the rankings. I feel a bit bad for Frost DK. I love its playstyle, but when UH exists (of which I'm not a fan of the snapshot + pet playstyle), it kinda kills it a bit for me. Here's hoping we find some tech for it.

    • @Riyaniwow
      @Riyaniwow  Місяць тому +2

      I don't think you should feel bad playing it. Super solid dps and during p1 frost should out dps unholy on quite a few fights.
      The frost DKs have been playing around with the APL in sims and are getting similar single-target dps as UH with the masterfrost variation.

  • @jarnokantonen1330
    @jarnokantonen1330 Місяць тому +50

    "I think the internet is being a bit harsh on the fury warrior" - proceeds to put fury on the lowest tier, below every other class

    • @TarinaxTheDestroyer
      @TarinaxTheDestroyer 29 днів тому +3

      My friend was the top warrior on logs in the US during dragon soul and he played fury. But everyone is right about it starting way lower than arms.

    • @ak-1271
      @ak-1271 27 днів тому +1

      All the private servers I've played in have had Fury topping in DS. Don't know if because of balancing or because it is as such. Still, I have faith in Blizzard pumping Fury to the sky

    • @TarinaxTheDestroyer
      @TarinaxTheDestroyer 27 днів тому +2

      @@ak-1271 if I recall it was just because of the weapon from deathwing but my memory is foggy 😂

    • @phantom0456
      @phantom0456 25 днів тому +1

      I played Fury throughout Cata, and I was at or near the top of the meters for FL and DS, and even in T11 I was still fairly high, and I raided in a Heroic-clearing guild. Fury requires careful management of the CS window, but if you know how to play it well you can absolutely pump, especially in T13.

    • @jomormont
      @jomormont 23 дні тому +1

      Hey...no F tier at least :D

  • @koffietafel
    @koffietafel 18 днів тому +1

    Very nice video I love the background music.

  • @bradlowder9926
    @bradlowder9926 2 дні тому

    According to private server data from twinstar. Unholy topped out at 57k and frost topped out at 49k as arms was 62k and the rest of the melee were all below these 3. However ranged did very well. The top dps spec was an ele shammy with 170k

  • @Snipingisnothing
    @Snipingisnothing 21 день тому +1

    What a great video! Gained a new sub

  • @joshuamacal3641
    @joshuamacal3641 19 днів тому +1

    Song name?
    10/10 video editing. Well paced, slow enough to understand, quick enough to get through it, good references to previous playstyles.

    • @Riyaniwow
      @Riyaniwow  19 днів тому

      Kul Tiras Sky Night 6 from the BFA expansion
      Thanks for the feedback! Appreciate it a lot ❤

    • @SelSylvana
      @SelSylvana 12 днів тому

      Was looking for this as well, thank you for asking, love the music!

  • @albeshino8875
    @albeshino8875 Місяць тому +26

    100% agree with all. Btw plz don’t make us wait this long for the caster tier list

    • @Riyaniwow
      @Riyaniwow  Місяць тому +10

      Let me rest man! Haha, no worries bud-- I'm on it. Few more videos coming out before the caster version, but will be out soon enough.

    • @mcbaggins12
      @mcbaggins12 Місяць тому +5

      @@Riyaniwow i would recommend not resting. The algorithm is popping off for you rn I think. In just a few months time your shit might be comparitvely dead, you never know. Get to grinding if you wanna blow up.

    • @joshua_lee732
      @joshua_lee732 28 днів тому

      Speaking of ranged frost mage is best mage in pre raid bis

    • @mcbaggins12
      @mcbaggins12 27 днів тому

      @@joshua_lee732 no shot. Whered you hear that? I mean maybe you're right but I just highly doubt it. Frost is a pvp spec by design, they don't even try to balance it for pve. And fire mage, while weakest in early cata, is probably the overall strongest caster of the whole xpac and possibly the strongest dps of the whole xpac. However fire does depend heavily on scaling so I guess I can see how maybe frost in pre raid bis would be best and then quickly outdone by fire once you get any sort of raid gear

  • @moraqt
    @moraqt Місяць тому +2

    Warrior in 0:20 is a gamer but warrior zerker stance was a bit buggy :D Thanks for the feat haha

  • @Knownasnemoo
    @Knownasnemoo Місяць тому +1

    Great video, i cry as a fury warrior main. Time to spec arms i guess. I was still a young person back in original Cata so i don't remember how good the different specs were.

    • @Riyaniwow
      @Riyaniwow  Місяць тому

      I miss being an innocent noob.
      If you enjoy fury more than arms, I’d give it a go in Dragon Soul for sure

    • @Knownasnemoo
      @Knownasnemoo Місяць тому

      @@Riyaniwow its an option ofc. However i am a heroic raider and also skilled enough to test it out myself and be realistic about it. If arms pulls ahead by too much i will swap to keep my raid spot.

    • @danlorett2184
      @danlorett2184 29 днів тому

      Arms is mad fun AND really strong in cata, you wont miss fury

  • @ryancraigdavis
    @ryancraigdavis 16 днів тому

    Lust does stack with unholy frenzy, the reason people don’t think it does comes from the fact that on pservers and OG cata gargoyles was gcd capped (like it will be now) but it does stack for a Uber buffed DT or fast rune regen

  • @Danmantus
    @Danmantus День тому

    Well made vid, subbed

  • @LouisReacts
    @LouisReacts 9 днів тому +1

    I main an enhancement shaman and I just have so much fun on it and I tried the arms warrior and was breaking out so much more dmg but it just wasn’t fun. Thankfully my guild told me I can main my enhancement, it’s no worries :)

  • @BloodFangRogue1
    @BloodFangRogue1 24 дні тому

    You forgot that during firelands, there was a spell power caster axe that was best in slot for enhancement shamans that would hard cast some spells along with their enhancement abilities for sick deepz

  • @dani-am
    @dani-am Місяць тому

    How does Unholy DK scale compared to WotLK? Will its performance go down further into the expansion?

    • @TarinaxTheDestroyer
      @TarinaxTheDestroyer 29 днів тому

      Unholy remains stronger than frost the entire expansion even into dragon soul last phase raid. Frost pulls ahead on the death wing fight only as the fight has buffs that serves it better

  • @Techning
    @Techning 24 дні тому

    As being a (rogue) progress raider back then I really think that combat rogue should be S tier in later patches, especially in dragon soul with legendary daggers. Blade flurry was insanely good.

  • @ootsie194
    @ootsie194 29 днів тому

    What weak auras were those at the beginning of the video?😊

    • @dyyylllaannn
      @dyyylllaannn 16 днів тому +1

      Look up QuaziiWoW's Cata UI video. Everything you see is on his website.

    • @ootsie194
      @ootsie194 16 днів тому

      @@dyyylllaannn thank you mate, appreciate the info

  • @adzadzy
    @adzadzy Місяць тому +1

    Will you be doing a caster dps ranking too? 👍

    • @Riyaniwow
      @Riyaniwow  Місяць тому

      Yes, sir! But may be a week or two.

    • @adzadzy
      @adzadzy Місяць тому

      @@Riyaniwow before pre patch next week! 😀

  • @tomdavenport1768
    @tomdavenport1768 26 днів тому +4

    Enhancement Shaman in B tier is crazy.

    • @Dualities
      @Dualities 23 дні тому

      and Furry Warrior D too

    • @SkysXFile
      @SkysXFile 22 дні тому +1

      Yeah, enh shammy is never top tier, but it's still my favorite. It's just the most fun for me

    • @tomdavenport1768
      @tomdavenport1768 22 дні тому +1

      @@SkysXFile exactly. Same here.

    • @undacuvabrotha
      @undacuvabrotha 20 днів тому

      what tier would you put it in?

  • @Iggybart05
    @Iggybart05 Місяць тому

    ok i feel like you started this video by saying that only raw damage would be considered since raid buffs would be easily covered, but it also seemed like that was a major thing you mentioned right before ranking most of them.

  • @hoffyc.h393
    @hoffyc.h393 29 днів тому

    I gonna first main my DK, as blood tank and second spec unholy :D

    • @Riyaniwow
      @Riyaniwow  29 днів тому +1

      You’ll be having a good expansion!

  • @todesrolle2393
    @todesrolle2393 18 днів тому

    what about the honor among thiefs 5% crit buff? 10:33

  • @coolzerow
    @coolzerow 24 дні тому +1

    People forget warriors are gods in PvP phase. Reck 5 min cd and smash(-100% armor) gonna 1shot people

  • @gabrielpoliti6127
    @gabrielpoliti6127 23 дні тому

    Please make an arena 3v3 comp tierlist

  • @sebekgra8416
    @sebekgra8416 27 днів тому

    these classics are perfect for priv players for checking tier lists

  • @MeganArthur-kr6tj
    @MeganArthur-kr6tj 29 днів тому

    Seems pretty solid aside from FDK being in A tier

  • @andromidius
    @andromidius 28 днів тому

    The damage gap shouldn't be as bad as it has been in the past. There will be best choices, but a good player can make the worst class look good still - and a bad player will still be bad even with the most broken option.

    • @Snowsitoox
      @Snowsitoox 24 дні тому

      Well, most of the classes now have a few things that they need to be aware of, and if ur not doing so, ur dps will decrease, but theres still a gap between a mid skilled "god" class and a pro using a "bad" class, not to mention if they were both "pro", the god class would DESTROY the other one

  • @majorbones251
    @majorbones251 13 днів тому

    Blood in the Water does NOT refresh the original snapshot. It effectively casts a new 5cp Rip. You’ll need to correct this.

  • @rogeeshmee
    @rogeeshmee 25 днів тому

    hey bro loved your video, any chance you can do this including all the races? for example unholy dk and cat much better on horde but ret better on ally etc. and a phase by phase tier list if possible 😅😅😅

  • @darkgenesis611
    @darkgenesis611 17 днів тому

    Good or bad. I'm really enjoying frost DK

  • @arbitration2481
    @arbitration2481 22 дні тому

    Gonna throw this out there as someone who has done many many cataclysm private servers, This list is fine and all, but a good player can pull numbers to succeed in everything. The only real exception is prot warrior. it's really really bad in t11 so if you play prot warrior, don't expect to tank HC nef or anything like that.. As for dps numbers, I've seen good players pull 25-30k as every spec in raids throughout my time. Some fights are better than others, but honestly outside of pvp specific specs (lookin at you sub rogue), anything you want to play can succeed in raids and pull their weight easily if you know your class well.
    The amount of times I've had people trash talk me playing combat rogue in t11, telling me to go assassination, then proceed to put out 26k single target while assassin rogues are doing 20k is a little insane at this point.
    TL:DR - in 99% of cases play what you want and you'll do fine, just learn your class with their new stat prios and rotations.

    • @triantulas
      @triantulas 19 днів тому

      Same goes for the enhancement shaman?

    • @arbitration2481
      @arbitration2481 19 днів тому

      @@triantulas seen an enhance consistently top 3 in hc raids.

  • @Djdrainsoul
    @Djdrainsoul Місяць тому

    Background music?:D

    • @Riyaniwow
      @Riyaniwow  Місяць тому +1

      Kul Tiras Sky Night 6 from the BFA expansion

  • @dusanspancy
    @dusanspancy 12 днів тому

    I would change ass rogue to S, combat to A and feral to A. Rest is perfect, long private servers player here. Ass rogue simply does a lot of dps in cata because almost all bosses can be backstabbed and its easy to play. Feral same story but a bit less dps, with best opener after demo warlock.

  • @icebox1954
    @icebox1954 23 дні тому

    In what world is Blood Frenzy's DK equivalent Brittle Bones brought by a Blood Death Knight tank? What?

  • @DaWashki04
    @DaWashki04 29 днів тому +1

    FURY WARRIOR ZUG ZUG

  • @333165708
    @333165708 Годину тому

    frost with duals? LOl nab?

  • @coleamenta8299
    @coleamenta8299 Місяць тому

    Arms warrior it is.

    • @Riyaniwow
      @Riyaniwow  Місяць тому

      A good pick for sure!

  • @ikasas12
    @ikasas12 Місяць тому

    is Blood DPS not a viable spec for DK's anymore?

    • @johnd3901
      @johnd3901 Місяць тому

      No tanking only

    • @Greynth
      @Greynth Місяць тому

      No, Blood is relegated to tanking only in Cata and on. However, Blood is so busted strong in 4.3.4 it’s fine lol.

    • @ikasas12
      @ikasas12 Місяць тому

      Sadge, I've been playing Blood DPS in WotLK and it's been very fun. Guess I'll move back to Frost. May even try out Unholy again too.

    • @Greynth
      @Greynth Місяць тому +1

      @@ikasas12 You can give 2h Frost a go to get a similar playstyle. Unholy is also way more fleshed out and enjoyable in its Cata iteration as well.

  • @chrisroberts5300
    @chrisroberts5300 Місяць тому

    Rip isnt snapshotting in beta atm, bleeds wont even crit

  • @ammarshabbir5458
    @ammarshabbir5458 23 дні тому

    Oh man oh man, every single tier list I have seen has gotten rogues completely wrong....
    In terms of raw DPS and output for the first couple of phases Assa is S tier and in Dragon soul Single target dps Sub rogue is the most dominant spec there is, Sub rogue for about 4 of DS Bosses is number 1 DPS and combat rogue takes the spot for the other 4.
    ua-cam.com/video/VMK_huoSnVQ/v-deo.html
    The above is rogue DPS without legendary daggers, I mained sub rogue myself in a raiding guild that had 8/8 HC on farm and had leggo daggers etc, can safely say that I was top dps almost every fight, occasionally our Surv hunter might be 1st with myself as 2nd.
    You can watch literally any raid from Paragon whether Al'akir, Firelands or Dragon soul and you can clearly see rogues are top 3 dps without fail in almost every video.
    Granted the rogue was mainly played by arguably one of the best PVE rogue players back then but with addons that we have now and sims etc, most rogues will be able to perform their rotations optimally enough to be top dps.
    Everybody sleeping on Rogues and I just don't understand why or where their cata knowledge is coming from.

  • @Yourboykillua1997
    @Yourboykillua1997 4 дні тому

    What about balance Druid?

    • @Riyaniwow
      @Riyaniwow  4 дні тому

      I have a ranged ranking video out ☺️

  • @akmetal574
    @akmetal574 Місяць тому

    Tier lists pre sims is kinda pointless, private servers and even original Cata data don’t mean much when we are staring on the final build for all classes and no one played that in T 11 or 12. For all we know blizzard buff or nerf specs. Honestly would be a huge fan of seeing the lesser played specs getting some buffs to close the gap with the S tier.

    • @mcbaggins12
      @mcbaggins12 Місяць тому

      Nah not pointless at all. Look at the wrath tier lists. Aff at the top all xpac (true). Feral and war huge in icc (true)

    • @brandonkruse6412
      @brandonkruse6412 Місяць тому

      The best specs on private servers are going to be the best specs in Classic. Private servers start on the same end patch.

    • @mcbaggins12
      @mcbaggins12 Місяць тому

      @@brandonkruse6412 not true either. Unh dk wasn't the best on p servers iirc

    • @brandonkruse6412
      @brandonkruse6412 Місяць тому

      @@mcbaggins12 Depends on the gear and player. The scripting isn’t really any different for classes on Apollo and Whitemane with small bugs that have mostly been fixed.
      I’ve played UH on pservers and it’s solid

    • @mcbaggins12
      @mcbaggins12 Місяць тому

      @@brandonkruse6412 idk how much of it was scripting diff or classic players are just better than pserver players but there were never any pserver 16 udk stacks to my knowledge. Unholy only became the number 1 best spec in classic. On pserver, aff was number 1 (except icc)

  • @hvdiv17
    @hvdiv17 16 днів тому

    Dont play enhancement the sering flame mechanic sucks and was a big reason a lot of shamans went elemental enhance was good when it got elemental blast in mop but for cata play elemental.
    lightning bolt on the move is so much fun.

  • @jacoblavilla2320
    @jacoblavilla2320 Місяць тому

    caster list asap

  • @InTheWild1
    @InTheWild1 Місяць тому +1

    I'm predicting feral to be a lot better in Cata than people think PVE wise.

    • @Sean-hd5sp
      @Sean-hd5sp Місяць тому

      I am hoping for that too my friend, with the removal of the faerie fire glyph that we got in wrath we will see how we do. Maybe they do a change like that again in cata we will only see lol

    • @haptreefriend
      @haptreefriend Місяць тому +1

      @@Sean-hd5sp This glyph is still here in Cata Classic. Didn't work on first beta days but they patched it. Works pefectly now on beta ;)

    • @franky1882
      @franky1882 Місяць тому +1

      @@haptreefriend well I hope they remove it because the glyph is way too busted. if they want to buff feral, they should try to get a little more creative than to slap a glyph on them that increased their dmg (in Wrath) by roughly 15%. I dont think ppl who want the glyph to stay, have any clue whatsoever how this will scale into cata.

    • @willvititoe2781
      @willvititoe2781 28 днів тому +1

      I have only played feral in classic and im gonna be honest i dont think it should be in cata not because it will be too strong but because the rotation in cata is already pretty fun and having to change it to spam faerie fire every 6 seconds would make it not as fun in my opinion

    • @haptreefriend
      @haptreefriend 28 днів тому +1

      @@franky1882 Feral is by far the hardest spec/class to play perfectly. If feral shine in cata classic like WotLK classic it's all good ;)

  • @benjsroutine4282
    @benjsroutine4282 18 днів тому

    Arms warrior is nice late game. This is poopoo most of the time. :(

  • @quidkey69
    @quidkey69 17 днів тому

    Sub rogue is not c tier lol. phase 11 they are simming 5k higher than arms warrior.

  • @carinmotion
    @carinmotion 22 дні тому

    surv?

    • @Riyaniwow
      @Riyaniwow  22 дні тому

      Coming in the ranged vid

    • @carinmotion
      @carinmotion 21 день тому

      @@Riyaniwow oh, he’s not a mele yet, mb

  • @user-vq4fu9mz8o
    @user-vq4fu9mz8o 19 днів тому

    Yall talking bad for fury warriors until you get hit for 70k raging blow.

  • @adamjuzwik2888
    @adamjuzwik2888 19 днів тому

    Fury wont become good in DS , they were overnerfed in original 4.3 and are only usefull of Spine of DW where you need CDs or if you wona do logs in middle

  • @brandonkruse6412
    @brandonkruse6412 29 днів тому

    I have to disagree about Enhance, they are extremely explosive along with bringing a wide variety of utility. A big part of Cata is running heroic dungeons, the ZG/ZA tier needs that fast burst.
    I think the Classic community of Enhancement players will surprise you when you see them properly geared with a skilled player.

    • @MeganArthur-kr6tj
      @MeganArthur-kr6tj 29 днів тому +1

      Hey Siri, show me copium

    • @brandonkruse6412
      @brandonkruse6412 29 днів тому

      @@MeganArthur-kr6tj Nah, I fully understand the problems with Enhance and why Ele is more popular but when the pool of players playing a spec is smaller, you don’t often see its full potential.

  • @blackfallfall
    @blackfallfall Місяць тому +1

    Ret paladins are S tiers and it's not even close. They're extremely hard to play and master but if you play it really, really well, oh boy.

    • @chrisl2773
      @chrisl2773 Місяць тому +1

      🤡

    • @MeganArthur-kr6tj
      @MeganArthur-kr6tj 29 днів тому

      Yet to see anything that suggests Ret is hard to master tbh

    • @plasticbudgie
      @plasticbudgie 29 днів тому +2

      Ret hard to play lol

    • @ahetzel9054
      @ahetzel9054 28 днів тому

      Nah I disagree, ret is good and A tier is a solid place for them. They aren't that hard either, just need a bit of luck with RNG

  • @arasaris1269
    @arasaris1269 15 днів тому

    only dk main puts frost on a same level as ret xd u lost me bruh with this hard copin

    • @Riyaniwow
      @Riyaniwow  15 днів тому

      Sims are looking promising- about 1k behind UH on ST with the right APL and gearing. But who knows, may be straight copium 🤷‍♂️

  • @kite865
    @kite865 Місяць тому

    sub rogue should be much higher on your list

    • @cruxe2372
      @cruxe2372 Місяць тому

      Rogue in general tbh. Feel like people sleep on it.

    • @alexcrow332
      @alexcrow332 Місяць тому

      ​@@cruxe2372every single list has rogue lower than it should be. They all just parrot the same info. But rogues will be topping everyone.

    • @Riyaniwow
      @Riyaniwow  Місяць тому +1

      For specific fights, absolutely. But for the overall expansion I think it's accurate. I may be wrong, though! Will be fun to see how the meta plays out.

    • @ahetzel9054
      @ahetzel9054 28 днів тому

      It doesn't become viable until DS tho, so it's really not a great pick until late into cata.

    • @voldezee
      @voldezee 17 днів тому

      sub rogue dps is dependant on the player. very skill dependant. otherwise sub is PVP spec

  • @Mzyjk
    @Mzyjk 29 днів тому

    Bullshit 😂

  • @Bruno-sl3vu
    @Bruno-sl3vu 11 днів тому

    Druid n rogue B tiers lol. Go delete

  • @Bucketheadxx
    @Bucketheadxx 23 дні тому

    Where the fuck is Ele Shaman?

    • @Riyaniwow
      @Riyaniwow  23 дні тому

      Do you melee a lot on your ele shammy? 😅 ranged video coming next week.

  • @idiot.andrew
    @idiot.andrew 23 дні тому

    not putting all 3 rogue specs in S is crazzzzzzzzy bro this video is cooked