Huge Discovery SHOCKS The Spelunky Community!

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  • @karljobst
    @karljobst  2 роки тому +935

    I'm in the process of moving house so videos have been sparse. But I should be moving into my new office early November and I will be pumping things out from then. Plus other things have been happening, I will have a video about it within the next week. Hope you all are well

    • @YourAverageSpelunker
      @YourAverageSpelunker 2 роки тому +7

      It's all good, i love your videos
      (Especially this one lol)

    • @Rapgod3hoursclean
      @Rapgod3hoursclean 2 роки тому +8

      Did you get evicted by a Hunstman spider?

    • @MikeWalls7829
      @MikeWalls7829 2 роки тому +3

      Your videos have so much work in them I expect them to be sparse, great content takes time.

    • @FrankConnolly8
      @FrankConnolly8 2 роки тому +1

      Was that a Wayne's World reference with the 'cannot be killed by conventional means'? I'm saying yes... yes it was

    • @pedropimenta896
      @pedropimenta896 2 роки тому +2

      ​@@Rapgod3hoursclean or worse, the greatest gamer of all time!

  • @dude-zr8gi
    @dude-zr8gi 2 роки тому +3348

    Riverrun may not be a speed runner, but he will be remembered as an absolute legend by the community.

    • @HexiiSky
      @HexiiSky 2 роки тому +260

      hopefully runners name it the river skip or something alike

    • @gragogflying-anvil3605
      @gragogflying-anvil3605 2 роки тому +229

      @@HexiiSky Maybe something like "Hell River" or "River to Hell".

    • @ProjectRedfoot
      @ProjectRedfoot 2 роки тому +30

      Riverdance

    • @patientallison
      @patientallison 2 роки тому +61

      @@gragogflying-anvil3605 River Styx?

    • @oharehatmancaleb7
      @oharehatmancaleb7 2 роки тому +172

      I’m betting River Skip, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they just call it a River Run. Riverrun’s name fits very cleanly in the speedrunner nomenclature.

  • @JJBeauregard1
    @JJBeauregard1 2 роки тому +1618

    Can you imagine being a speedrunner of a game you've played countless times, hundreds or even thousands of hours and one day some random player who doesn't even speedrun presents you the holy grail of strategies that was laying there all this time right in front of you?! It must feel so awesome but maybe also gut wrenching at the same time.
    I love it when something like this happens, you never know what is still possible but simply hidden! :D

    • @Ravathiel
      @Ravathiel 2 роки тому +162

      sometimes, a new perspective is all it takes

    • @coobk
      @coobk 2 роки тому +21

      john kaleta moment

    • @THICCTHICCTHICC
      @THICCTHICCTHICC 2 роки тому +108

      @@Ravathiel Not just that - just someone with minimal knowledge wondering about every little thing instead of going "yeah that does nothing don't worry about it"

    • @griffin1366
      @griffin1366 2 роки тому +35

      Yep. Same came be said about any game, even FPS games. A lot of (egotistical) FPS players deny that but it's true every time. Some angle you never thought of, or would expect somebody to even sit in... Just to name a few.
      I love it!

    • @SullySadface
      @SullySadface 2 роки тому +5

      Yogscast did it (Bouphe skip)

  • @ryanchase9332
    @ryanchase9332 2 роки тому +173

    One thing Karl didn't mention regarding the teleporter is that you can't just blind use it to get to the exit. If you teleport (and it sends you a certain distance in the direction you choose), and come into contact with any solid object (block, wall, enemy etc) it will instantly kill you. So learning to teleport through hell isn't as simple as it sounds.

    • @RainMarrlen
      @RainMarrlen 5 місяців тому +13

      I know this is a year-old comment but "Learning to teleport through hell isn't as simple as it sounds." is quite a videogame quote.

  • @Hectique
    @Hectique 2 роки тому +990

    thanks for covering this skip karl, it's so exciting for a game i hold so dear to have a crazy surprise discovery story like this. looking forward to pushing all the records even faster with it! 🐑❤

    • @DelayedSpaceOwl
      @DelayedSpaceOwl 2 роки тому +12

      I saw your stream on it and was blown away. Such a simple method to save so much time

    • @amongsussyballs
      @amongsussyballs 2 роки тому +6

      huge W on being the first to complete a run with it

    • @b0b2107
      @b0b2107 2 роки тому +9

      Hectique, the Harumachi Clover 16.67% FC legend

    • @Galakktika
      @Galakktika 2 роки тому +2

      Giga chad

    • @astraabynn9690
      @astraabynn9690 2 роки тому +2

      I saw this video and immediately thought of you! Been watching since the calamity days, and heard you're doing much better now! Hope things continue on the good path

  • @Calamity-Rhapsody
    @Calamity-Rhapsody 2 роки тому +577

    What makes this discovery so impactful is that the game was almost considered solved with records not having changed in years.

    • @just_leo8930
      @just_leo8930 2 роки тому +36

      Thats interesting. I havent really thought about this, but can a rougelike like Spelunky be considered as solved? I dont know much about the game but isnt there a possibility for incredebly good RNG?

    • @goldenhate6649
      @goldenhate6649 2 роки тому +64

      @@just_leo8930 Often its more just that the records are so optimized and good its hard to find any room to improve. Your are talking hundredths of a second improvement on some categories.

    • @zaptrap4802
      @zaptrap4802 2 роки тому +23

      no? the last hell% WR was like 2 months ago.

    • @Kmn483
      @Kmn483 2 роки тому +9

      @@just_leo8930 Depends on your definition of solved, but there are only a finite number of possibilities, even in splunkey. Get tele on floor 2 is optimal, for instance. From there it's getting good map layouts and any other items of convenience. Sure there's plenty of good map layouts you could get, but as long as you know the ideal items to get then there's basically nothing left to figure out. Just a matter of getting that perfect seed that checks all the boxes. I'd argue that's pretty solved.

    • @reginaldforthright805
      @reginaldforthright805 Рік тому

      Spellunky has a very small speed running community, mainly pre k children and seniors in assisted living facilities

  • @GorgeGrouse
    @GorgeGrouse 2 роки тому +193

    Spelunky Speedrunner here.
    I always appreciate your videos, and I think you did a really good job of covering the Speedrun and the (short version) of the experience of speedruning Spelunky HD. Great work!

  • @callmeshaggy5166
    @callmeshaggy5166 2 роки тому +341

    This reminds me of two relatively recent FF7 discoveries - Yuffie warping (about a decade ago) & materia smuggling (from 2020). Both of which helped create a whole new NG+any% category. Combined with getting game over during the flashback (not supposed to be possible), this saw any% drop from from 7-8ish hours down to under 90 minutes.

    • @pudgebonetv9628
      @pudgebonetv9628 2 роки тому +18

      Wtf? That's crazy! Haven't followed ff7 speed run for years but I love that game.

    • @KnakuanaRka
      @KnakuanaRka 2 роки тому +2

      Interesting; any good videos on those?

    • @callmeshaggy5166
      @callmeshaggy5166 2 роки тому +6

      @@KnakuanaRka check out "4-8 productions" he at least held the record once or twice, and was instrumental in figuring out how materia smuggling worked to be easily reproducible.

    • @callmeshaggy5166
      @callmeshaggy5166 2 роки тому +6

      @@pudgebonetv9628 the new runs are going to look completely alien to you lmao

    • @pudgebonetv9628
      @pudgebonetv9628 2 роки тому +2

      @@callmeshaggy5166 who's a good runner to fallow? I remember Caleb Hart but that's it

  • @1Henrink
    @1Henrink 2 роки тому +596

    Spelunky is truly a high skill ceiling game. These speedrunners are incredible.

    • @buttecake
      @buttecake 2 роки тому +64

      And a pretty high skill floor!

    • @donquixote8462
      @donquixote8462 2 роки тому +35

      @@buttecake hahaha true. I remember how long it took me to even clear the mines initially. Good times

    • @Rain1
      @Rain1 2 роки тому +9

      You guys aren't wrong at all. I just bought Spelunky 2 a week ago and started playing it for the first time. It's hard. There is a ton to learn. I only just learned today that if you float down slowly with the cape you can avoid spike pits from impaling you. I only learned two days ago if you throw a rope downwards you can simply just climb down to the spikes as well.

    • @Lilly-Lilac
      @Lilly-Lilac 2 роки тому +19

      @@Rain1 spelunky 2 is arguably harder than HD, although both have their own difficulties. Especially with speed running

    • @SylviaRustyFae
      @SylviaRustyFae 2 роки тому +2

      Frackin this, i dont think ive even ever made it past lvl 3 in Spelunky... To be this good at it is just unimaginable to me; tho i also dont generally play platformers and roguelike platformers are like my only exception, alongside Terraria.

  • @idontknowleavemealoneplease
    @idontknowleavemealoneplease 2 роки тому +109

    The mid-run category changing (pivoting) is super interesting to me. It makes perfect sense but I've never considered that something like that was ever being done.

    • @alicepbg2042
      @alicepbg2042 2 роки тому +34

      it's how the run with the most money collected was done. he got the laser gun super early and went "ok, we doing this"

    • @idontknowleavemealoneplease
      @idontknowleavemealoneplease 2 роки тому +13

      @@alicepbg2042 that's awesome. Starting a run in one category and on the fly making a decision to run a different category to get the world record has got to feel amazing.

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 2 роки тому +14

      @@alicepbg2042 It's cool as hell to me that a game has that kind of on the fly flexibility for speedrunning of all things. I'm sure there has to be other games where it's the case, but I can't think of any.

    • @thepeanuts55
      @thepeanuts55 2 роки тому +12

      @@0neDoomedSpaceMarine pivoting is not even that common in other roguelite speedruns, spelunky is a special case because there is really only one goal: get to the exit. You don't have to kill any enemy, you don't have to collect any gold, you don't even need to collect any item to beat the boss. It helps that everything interacts with everything, leading you to novel solutions like getting a caveman to trip over a shotgun, triggering it and killing the shopkeeper without the blood on your hands.

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 2 роки тому +1

      @@thepeanuts55 Well, not having to kill or collect everything strikes me as typical any%, but everything interacting with everything as described really sounds like the kind of things where you can get very novel in your approaches.

  • @a.j.leclair5426
    @a.j.leclair5426 2 роки тому +354

    Karl I just wanna say that ur videos are hands down the best speedrunnig/video games videos on UA-cam bar none. I love it and am a huge fan. Absolute legend

    • @karljobst
      @karljobst  2 роки тому +74

      I appreciate that. Thank you.

    • @a.j.leclair5426
      @a.j.leclair5426 2 роки тому +10

      @@karljobst no thank u. Lol

    • @ratzou2
      @ratzou2 2 роки тому +21

      Well, Summoning Salt steals #1 imo

    • @TheConnoiseurofTheArtofSnort
      @TheConnoiseurofTheArtofSnort 2 роки тому +7

      @@ratzou2 Yeah, I love Karl's videos but salts videos are like full length documentaries.. Huge fun of both!

    • @alessandrorossi1294
      @alessandrorossi1294 2 роки тому +14

      I like Summoning Salt too but can his fanboys stop drooling over him in the comments of every other spreedrun documentarian all the time!???

  • @insertgenericusernamehere2402
    @insertgenericusernamehere2402 2 роки тому +308

    I know it's not a hugely popular game series anymore, But the speed running scene for Tony hawks games is fascinating to me. Would love to see you do a video on them. Runs of certain games can be done in under 10 minutes or some over an hour. And the sheer amount of button prompts to get the perfect runs and perfect trick placements is INSANE

    • @kinsan89
      @kinsan89 2 роки тому +8

      Fuck yeah, I love Tony Hawk speedruns, regardless of the game...
      Except 5. Fuck 5

    • @kyleolson8977
      @kyleolson8977 2 роки тому +5

      While I think THPS is an amazing game for testing skill, shouldn't THPS be about high score instead of Speedruns? Speedruns cut off many of the mechanics in a game for the sake of speed only. THPS doesn't need speedrunning other than that "all the other games do it" Particularly for THPS 1-3 with the fixed run length, High Score seems like a far more interesting goal.
      I appreciate your enthusiasm, but Speedrunning THPS seems odd.

    • @kinsan89
      @kinsan89 2 роки тому +10

      @@kyleolson8977 there's definitely communities for both. Some people appreciate high score runs, and some like seeing the levels getting done ASAP, especially the more story heavy games like THUG/THAW

    • @UltraProchy
      @UltraProchy 2 роки тому +6

      @@kyleolson8977 you can say that about a lot of different games but thats why categories exist, some people like different things

    • @meneldal
      @meneldal 2 роки тому +6

      @@kyleolson8977 In a lot of the games, the speedrun requires interesting pathing to go around the whole level to collect stuff (one of the recurring objectives in each level), while a high score run is likely to only show a very small part of each level. For high score it ends up being a lot of math for knowing what gives the more points per second but it's not really obvious when you just see it.

  • @jprahme720
    @jprahme720 2 роки тому +28

    I came across one of your videos about a year ago (I believe it was the badabon video (lol)) and have been hooked on speedrunning ever since. Watching how people are able to break games is nothing short of amazing. Thank you for introducing me to this community.

  • @Verlisify
    @Verlisify 2 роки тому +5

    Reminds me of when the Barrier skip was found by realizing the barrier is just a wall... the most standard and clippable thing in speedrunning

  • @ascud644
    @ascud644 2 роки тому +12

    So stoked to see you finally cover Spelunky on the channel! It's a rich amazing game with incredible skill and unreal speedruns. Would love to see other videos about it and the other WRs for different categories (eggplant, no gold, pacifist, etc). Thanks for the video(s)!!!

  • @plectro3332
    @plectro3332 Рік тому +1

    I've been attempting to speedrun Spelunky a while ago. And one thing to note is that using the teleporter is incredibly difficult. It usually takes new runners months before they even attempt to start using the teleporter. The item always teleports a specific distance and if there isn't an empty block within that distance, you teleport inside a wall and instantly die. Seeing these clips you put in the video and how smooth and tight the teleports are is insane to me, knowing these runners are just pixels away from instant death every teleport

  • @ChaosRagorA
    @ChaosRagorA 2 роки тому +22

    Im a huge fan of rouguelikes, most of my library consists of the genre.... but there is just something about Spelunky that sends me into a rage. Thematically and playability makes it an amazing game, but god damn getting real deep into a run and getting 1 shot by a random projectile thats bounced of 3 walls before killing you just hits so much harder than any other game.

    • @abridgedbog7753
      @abridgedbog7753 2 роки тому +3

      The spelunky average experience:

    • @DieEineMieze
      @DieEineMieze Рік тому

      Hi :) I love rogue likes too! What are you favorites? I play mainly binding of Isaac and Hades.

    • @JackTheripper911
      @JackTheripper911 Рік тому

      ​@@DieEineMieze Hades is probably my favorite rouge-like. Enter the Gungeon is probably my second favorite rouge-like. DeadCells is a phenomenal rouge-like to play as well!

  • @puppieslovies
    @puppieslovies 2 роки тому +67

    Spelunky is a really cool game. I spent so many hours as a kid figuring it out
    Really cool that new things are still being discovered. This is exactly the kind of thing I feel like everybody should've known about. I've even done the push block thing to the hell door, but only when I did have the book

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 2 роки тому +1

      Looks like a neat game, although I suck at games and having enemies in the level change position upon restarting would drive me insane, I'd keep dying and get frustrated.

    • @puppieslovies
      @puppieslovies 2 роки тому +6

      @@volvo09 the challenge mostly comes from avoiding damage over the course of the whole game. Certain things kill you instantly.
      The fact that the levels are different usually isn't a big deal. The enemies are all fairly predictable

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 2 роки тому

      @@puppieslovies ah ok, that sounds less "tense" then.

    • @buttecake
      @buttecake 2 роки тому

      @@volvo09 it's not just the enemies that change position, almost all the levels are procedurally generated

    • @holdingpattern245
      @holdingpattern245 2 роки тому

      @@volvo09 The game is stylistically designed so that deaths are more funny than painful.

  • @VicJang
    @VicJang 2 роки тому +12

    Thanks Karl, this looks SO interesting! It’s a game that I’d definitely enjoy if it came out when I had more free time. Thanks for the detailed explanation of the speedrun itself and the interconnected elements. Those are always the best part of your videos.

  • @merman1974
    @merman1974 2 роки тому +6

    A brilliant explanation of the chain and how the new exploit works. I've never gotten that far in Spelunky, was intrigued to learn about the hidden zone too.

  • @thetragedyofcommons
    @thetragedyofcommons 2 роки тому +122

    i can’t believe they found my father

  • @Rickfernello
    @Rickfernello 2 роки тому +5

    This type of skip is that kind of magical thing that is incredible when discovered. Really nice that someone from outside found it so much time later!

  • @Lilly_the_Snek
    @Lilly_the_Snek Рік тому +1

    This discovery was also nice for casual players, as with it you can keep the chain item that gives you a second life, and bring it with you to the harder levels.

  • @SupaCLUCK
    @SupaCLUCK 10 місяців тому +1

    The hell door's location in Olmec's lair is also random and the book of the dead guides you to it, so not having the book makes that harder too

  • @GustavoShrapnel
    @GustavoShrapnel 2 роки тому +1

    Man, alright two things I thought I'd never see when I started watching speedrun UA-cam vids: That I would ever get into speedrunning (I currently speedrun Ninja Gaiden on NES) and that I would EVER see anything about one of my all-time favorite platformers (Spelunky) being on a speedrun channel. This is awesome!

  • @ralkia
    @ralkia 2 роки тому +4

    you're so fast on these Karl, I just learned about this myself and you've already got a video. Thanks m8

  • @lich109
    @lich109 2 роки тому +9

    Hold on a minute, this will create a new competitive category: eggplant. For those who don't know, the eggplant is an item you can get that is useless, except for the fact it takes the final boss down to 1HP and prevents him from attacking. Normally you cannot make it work because you have to drop the eggplant for the sceptre, but now it's legit possible to beat the game using the eggplant.

    • @anthonynguyen1289
      @anthonynguyen1289 2 роки тому

      Omg eggplant runs can actually be kinda fun without having to juggle a helper now. Still probably hellish, but not as bad

    • @Cloiss_
      @Cloiss_ 2 роки тому +4

      Eggplant% is one of the big categories that is changed by this, yeah: it was possible before, though the steps required to do so were quite convoluted - with Bookskip, it can be done much faster, and the old WR has already been broken by around a minute and a half!

    • @Airyn43
      @Airyn43 2 роки тому

      Its been a category, this just makes the eggplant run way easier since you dont have to have a hired hand now

  • @Kincaid_
    @Kincaid_ 2 роки тому +45

    This was such a cool thing to see discovered in real time. Super huge glitch for the Spelunky Speedrunning community!

    • @mooncalf_4534
      @mooncalf_4534 2 роки тому +1

      Reminds me of Baertaffy discovering imo the most amazing Spelunky exploit ever

  • @bombswabs3041
    @bombswabs3041 2 роки тому

    I do no speedrunning at all. I just learned about it from your channel. I have no aspirations to even start. But I cant get enough of this community. I love watching videos of new discoveries pushing the boundaries of whats possible. The way Karl describes whats happening with emphasis on the difficulty makes for a very entertaining and informative video to watch. I hope this community grows as I find speedrunning comparable to other sports I enjoy spectating like American Football for example. Karl you are an absolute Legend!

  • @saturnin55
    @saturnin55 2 роки тому +15

    Great video Karl! Thank you for covering this spelunky glitch. The Spelunky community is awesome!

  • @Infernia_Inferno
    @Infernia_Inferno 2 роки тому +23

    Seeing Karl cover Spelunky gives me joy

  • @lulwut9602
    @lulwut9602 2 роки тому +10

    When I finish, I yell "Spelunky".

  • @badradish2116
    @badradish2116 2 роки тому +3

    "you can save over a minute but you have to time it perfectly"
    these speed runs just got sooooo intense X'D

  • @MicoDossun
    @MicoDossun 2 роки тому

    I’m glad you put the eggplant run in the video as an ifykyk without bogging down the video by explaining how this helps that run cause this whole video I was thinking “that’s such a key eggplant run skip”

  • @popeye089
    @popeye089 2 роки тому +3

    I don’t speed run and quit playing games a couple of platforms ago. But I always watch and enjoy your vids. As usual thanks Karl and good luck with your family’s move

    • @ChillstoneBlakeBlast
      @ChillstoneBlakeBlast 2 роки тому +1

      It's Sad but not a bad decision to quit Gaming. May I ask, was there a Final Straw or what Else do you enjoy more?

    • @popeye089
      @popeye089 2 роки тому

      @@ChillstoneBlakeBlast real life didn’t allow time. Now I just play guitar in my free time. It was gaming or music for a hobby, I like music. But I still enjoy watching some games and vids like Karl’s channel.

  • @YourAverageSpelunker
    @YourAverageSpelunker 2 роки тому +12

    This discovery was so huge! Glad you covered this

  • @sproga_265
    @sproga_265 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks for putting a spotlight on my favorite speed game

  • @andsaid
    @andsaid 2 роки тому

    I'm so glad you made a video about Spelunky! Spelunky has to be one of my favourite games I have ever played and seeing you make a vid about it makes me so happy. Great vid :)

  • @185MDE
    @185MDE Рік тому +2

    I’m not a gamer, I just really enjoy your narrative style. Thank you for all the great videos!

  • @herisruns
    @herisruns 2 роки тому +1

    i like that you cover a great variety of different games. whenever you upload, it can be a complete surprise as to which game will be covered

  • @McCloudious
    @McCloudious 2 роки тому +21

    Damn Spelunky is on the best games ever made. The movement is unrivalled. Every death is rarely the fault of the game but an opportunity to develop your own skills.

    • @JackTheripper911
      @JackTheripper911 Рік тому +1

      "The movement is unrivaled" I feel like Celeste comes pretty close if not matches the movement in Splunky. Thats just my thoughts though

  • @Cronoistight
    @Cronoistight 2 роки тому +4

    I like how the speedrunning community is (at least from my experience of it) very open with new tricks. I have yet to experience gatekeeping in any game I have tried to learn. Back on track Karl Jobst giving us yet another banger!

  • @MrMarlowe3488
    @MrMarlowe3488 2 роки тому

    really nice to see some coverage of the spelunky community, I think there's just so much awesome history and categories for spelunky 1+2 and it has such a dedicated community documenting it all I'm surprised I don't see coverage more often from people

  • @jayos
    @jayos 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks for making a spelunky vid, more people need to know about the game

  • @freemorox5896
    @freemorox5896 2 роки тому +1

    Just dropped by to check out how much of a legend I am.
    An absolute one.
    Nice

  • @albl247
    @albl247 2 роки тому +1

    It's about time you did a video on Spelunky! I've been waiting for it to make an appearance as the speedrunning community for Spelunky is just a pure brilliant and lovely bunch and there's been plenty of good reason to in the past, but fair enough when this discovery came out I knew you'd have no excuse NOT to cover it!!! :D Keep up the great work Karl :)

  • @WGPL7979
    @WGPL7979 2 роки тому +19

    Really well constructed video! shows what spelunky is and what is still possible to achieve even after 10 years!

  • @Kurachi84
    @Kurachi84 2 роки тому +1

    Simple looking games can hold so many secrets, but some keep it for years or even 1 or more decades!
    Then when it's found, a whole update has to be made within the speedrunning community, and a game will be popular once again or even more than it already was.
    I like hearing about the newcomers finding something they think COULD be helpful, which turn out to be game changers!
    And hearing it from an Absolute Legend makes it even better :) Thanks once again, Karl!

  • @jimmy_kirk
    @jimmy_kirk 2 роки тому +1

    I have never heard of this game, but I am SHOCKED!

  • @deeton6289
    @deeton6289 2 роки тому +1

    Someone finding important glitches actually happened twice, in spelunky you can get an item that breaks if it's hits or thrown too fast, and you have to bring that to the end final boss, but at one point to get to that boss you have to die with a item that revives them, but you can't bring the eggplant with you, and the door you are forces to enter is covered in stone, but a random streamer glitches out of the door and couldn't continue the run and were pretty bummed, but someone in chat suggested to use a ball and chain to destroy the stone and it worked, allowing the eggplant to be thrown at Yama, which lead to the first ever eggplant Yama kill, as if you throw it at him you can one shot him after he transforms into an eggplant

  • @jaimemarquez1469
    @jaimemarquez1469 2 роки тому +1

    Just on time love your content. First time I have learned about a speed running strat before you posted about it.

  • @richarddeese1991
    @richarddeese1991 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks. There's an old riddle: Whom does the greatest swordsman in the world fear most? Well, it's not #2 or 3 or 4, etc. He knows he's better. He fears the *_worst_* swordsman, because they're likely to do something unpredictable. In this case, though, that's a good thing. Nobody who 'knew better' would've tried it. tavi.

  • @theftking
    @theftking 2 роки тому +4

    This is a cool skip because it got a bunch of people (like myself) who had only really played Spelunky 2 to check out HD.

  • @jakehero95
    @jakehero95 2 роки тому +1

    Spelunky has a very very special place in my heart. So idk how many of you know what GameMaker is, but it is a game making software that the first version of Spelunky was made on. It was GameMaker 8 and at the time I was trying to learn how to use a game engine and apply the concepts to an engine I was writing in C++. When I first downloaded and played Spelunky I knew I had to look at the source code and used a decompiler I had found to turn the executable back into the project file with all the sprites, objects, code etc intact. The way Derek used the engine and coded certain things like the ledge grabs, procedural generation, and physics calculations was just genius to me and such an important learning opportunity taught me so much just to look thru his code. I still have it saved along with the original Spelunky e kxecutable. Love to see it still getting some love and attention even now 😄. I wonder if being able to see and understand the source code would give you an edge lol

  • @R3F1C
    @R3F1C 2 роки тому

    cant belive this game is still going strong, i remember playing through it without guide because i was stubborn, and it took me over a week to get to the end, and you legends are speedrunning it so fast lol

  • @YuubiTimberwolf
    @YuubiTimberwolf 2 роки тому +1

    A trick/glitch doesn't have to be perfect initually, but it gives everyone the concept that it works and to make it perfect.
    Riverrun is a legend

  • @Sheithan
    @Sheithan 2 роки тому

    Knew it would be only a matter of time till you covered this, Spelunky is an IMMENSELY demanding game, the fact that there's speedruns of it at all is ludicrous. Right up a Karl Jobst video's alley.

  • @pyromen321
    @pyromen321 2 роки тому +2

    This is mind blowing. It’s always been known that Olmec destroys everything, but I guess no one knew he destroys the door? I’ve seen lots of modding videos testing out what he can destroy, and no one ever tested the door haha.
    I’m not s speedrunner, but I’m a casual gamer who was top 50 in Spelunky 2 at one point so this video makes me incredibly happy!

    • @llucllumador380
      @llucllumador380 2 роки тому

      I guess it can be because the door functions as a background tile, so people don't consider it when thinking about blocks to destroy.

    • @holdingpattern245
      @holdingpattern245 2 роки тому

      @@llucllumador380 It doesn't really get destroyed, what happens is that the glitch causes doors to be automatically opened if a block is broken on top of them, probably because this is how the black market door is opened. I wonder if this same trick would work on the door to the City of Gold.

    • @marsovac
      @marsovac 9 днів тому

      Doesn't destroy the door. The door is not a block (or olmec would destroy it by itself), just a background tile image that depends on whether you can enter there or not. What happens is that when a block is destroyed olmec destroys all the block in that line and opens the tile. I guess programmers just set the tile as open if you have the book, but they forgot that if any block is destroyed by olmec it will open the tile. Or more likely (thinking as a programmer, since I am one) this is coded on purpose - since olmec opening exists would be a very weird bug to code in. This is probably a hidden mechanic introduced by the devs and they were laughing for 10 years that nobody figured it out yet.

  • @sticky0159
    @sticky0159 2 роки тому

    It amazes me to think that somewhere out there, there is some kid whos been playing actively for a long time doing things their own way and just shared their method and thinking it was the standard route only to find out that it wasn't a normal route and instead found a way to make the game a lot easier.

  • @mookymookymooo
    @mookymookymooo 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome vid, you really brought this game to life for me! Skips like this are so satisfying

  • @_TG
    @_TG 2 роки тому +1

    Without getting theoretically deeper than a black hole, there’s a shrouded way of thinking that refers to the absence of knowledge as the capacity for probability; ie, everything we don’t know is entirely possible to be true, meaning that infinite improvement is possible. This is a prime example of that terrifyingly beautiful abyssal thought.
    Riverrun you legend

  • @TheItalianoAssassino
    @TheItalianoAssassino 2 роки тому +5

    Spelunky is geniuenly one of the most fun splitscreen experiences in the Indie realm.

  • @randyohm3445
    @randyohm3445 2 роки тому +4

    I really hope someday you'll cover something about Hollow Knight. The speedrunning community is really great and there are some really interesting tricks in various categories, such as the somewhat recently discovered "stallball" where players shoot a fireball into a curved wall and then bounce on their own spell to gain extra height. For a while it was mainly used in low percent runs but it's also been featured in white palace runs to bring back an old skip that was thought to be patched out!

  • @rafaelarevalo8047
    @rafaelarevalo8047 2 роки тому +2

    ohhh i love love love the spelunky coverage. one of the sickest, most fun platformers out there. skill ceiling is extremely high. thank you for the video, hope you'll do one on spelunky 2 someday.

    • @supaplayer
      @supaplayer 2 роки тому

      That would be neat, still a large amount of secrets and exploits to discover in Spelunky 2 that can be covered eventually

  • @AG-en5y
    @AG-en5y 2 роки тому +1

    Who watches this and does not speed run or doesn’t even have any interest in speed running themselves but this is just so entertaining

  • @ericbrown2666
    @ericbrown2666 2 роки тому +1

    I haven’t watched the whole video yet but I’m sure it’s a banger. Karl makes some of the best speed running/video game content on UA-cam.

  • @maverick12070
    @maverick12070 2 роки тому

    Wonderful to See that karl even Covers some of the somewhat lesser known speedgames, just because he has fun learning about it. Its a nice change from all the Dooms, Mario 64s and Minecrafts we've already Seen in this channel.

  • @ftwinzeler
    @ftwinzeler 22 дні тому

    Imagine being someone that just stumbled into this channel like myself, and you're hit with 3 minutes of absolutely nothing of note.
    Holy moly, I don't even want to continue watching

  • @bakkhertz
    @bakkhertz 2 роки тому +1

    I think what was also really cool was how this literally created new categories. Not just distinguishing hell% from chain hell% but things like low hell% are now possible that we're before

    • @supaplayer
      @supaplayer 2 роки тому +1

      @@bakkhertz Don’t respond to the bots, it may encourage them. Just a friendly reminder

  • @whatisbestinlife8112
    @whatisbestinlife8112 2 роки тому +1

    Always fascinating to see new discoveries like this.
    I wonder if the dev knew all along it was possible.

  • @ashproof
    @ashproof 2 роки тому

    I’m not kidding. My day is made better every time I see you’ve uploaded. And when I see its about big skips, it’s even better. And I scraped the duck out my arm and leg against pavement this morning.

  • @ElleTGC
    @ElleTGC 2 роки тому

    I've been watching Hectique for a while now and I was kinda surprised to see you talking about them. It's easy to watch speedrunners casually and forget that they're speedrunners who can do insane stuff in some games.

  • @Royale9
    @Royale9 2 роки тому +2

    To find certain glitches it sometimes takes some people who don't have a tunnel vision and try random things nobody thought of before.

    • @DavidWonn
      @DavidWonn 2 роки тому +1

      Yep, the key is to have a deep curiosity, question everything, and take nothing for granted. Having some coding knowledge also helps so you can anticipate the limitations a game has and what shortcuts the coders took to get around it.

  • @dreadburnz3522
    @dreadburnz3522 2 роки тому

    Dude literally showed up to talk about a glitch and changed the course of spelunky speedrunning forever. Simply amazing.

  • @stikkykeyys1059
    @stikkykeyys1059 2 роки тому

    Oh my gosh. Never thought I'd see a spelunky video on this channel! Thank you Karl!!

  • @gazozol2142
    @gazozol2142 2 роки тому

    It feels wonderfull seeing you make a video about such a niche game, its one of my favourites. Thanks for the video.

  • @ProfMarkQ
    @ProfMarkQ 2 роки тому +3

    I've never been interested in Speed Running, as in the act of doing it. Learning a game to that depth seems tedious, but with that said, I I'm fascinated by everything that goes into Speed Running.
    It's the coolest aspect of it.
    Karl, you're a good dude. Keep it up man, your videos are great!

  • @calciumcrisis5902
    @calciumcrisis5902 2 роки тому

    The thought process of Riverrun during his casual play session was probably just "I wonder if olmec can stomp the lock? Probably not but I'll try it anyways."

  • @Chiaros
    @Chiaros Рік тому

    Timing that stomp with the fall of the block is so satisfying to watch

  • @julianusapostata6677
    @julianusapostata6677 2 роки тому

    Its funny to me that i already knew about this skip and everything around this. But Karl still gives me a new information.
    I didnt know that people change their category on the fly.
    That was a nice detail

  • @alicepbg2042
    @alicepbg2042 2 роки тому

    I love spelunky so much. watching a speedrun with a teleporter is the most terrifying thing ever.

  • @3ngag3
    @3ngag3 2 роки тому

    I found out about the existence of this game through one of EZScape's videos talking about accidental skips being discovered in speedruns. Nice to see that there's still new things to be found here.

  • @ZackeroniAndCheese
    @ZackeroniAndCheese 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for explaining so many things that spelunky players may take for granted. It helped me follow along :)

  • @chocolatecake50000
    @chocolatecake50000 2 роки тому

    Cool to see Spelunky HD getting some love. 14:45 actually you can get a crate teleporter in 1-1

  • @demoknight864
    @demoknight864 2 роки тому

    Was waiting for you to cover this :D

  • @bronxtaco
    @bronxtaco 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for getting the word out Karl!

  • @a_pullin
    @a_pullin 2 роки тому +2

    Sponsor segment over at 3:05

  • @AustinRomaaan
    @AustinRomaaan 2 роки тому +1

    New Karl video and on one of my favorite games too! Excited to give this a watch!

  • @LimusTG
    @LimusTG 2 роки тому +3

    Karl wasn't lying when he said his next video was about speedrunning.

  • @Upsetkiller456
    @Upsetkiller456 2 роки тому

    Hey, just wanted to say that I am glad videos like these exist. It's nice to see something purely for the spirit of something :)

  • @BigGeordieUK_
    @BigGeordieUK_ 2 роки тому +1

    didn't ever expect a jobst video on spelunky, fun lil indie game with a rich background in speedruns

  • @alannavarrovaldez3117
    @alannavarrovaldez3117 2 роки тому

    Really cool videos men , big fan.
    I always listen to your videos while washing dishes.

  • @nigh_tosphere
    @nigh_tosphere 2 роки тому

    Changing the category you're running mid run, although rare, also used to be a thing in some categories in Minecraft speedrunning. Back when it wasn't as optimized as today (im not sure if still happens today), iirc both Illumina and Benex were doing random seed runs, and had crazy luck with wither skull drops and ended up changing the run to All Bosses.

  • @welp...
    @welp... 2 роки тому +2

    Wow, very nice! Spelunky runs are super fun, used to follow the game at some point. One question about this new method: how do you know where exactly the door is without clue that the book gives you?

    • @karljobst
      @karljobst  2 роки тому +2

      You have to scout it by using bombs to destroy a few levels down and then look for it.

    • @welp...
      @welp... 2 роки тому

      @@karljobst Ah gotcha, thanks! Thought there might have been some other trick for this, you never know at this point lol.

  • @julientett456
    @julientett456 2 роки тому

    KARL! I was wondering when you’d show up again. I haven’t watched the video yet but I’m pretty sure the next 20 minutes of work will be that much better now. Thank you kind sir 😁

  • @xxPenjoxx
    @xxPenjoxx 2 роки тому

    I hope its called the river run skip! Amazing what a fresh view on things can lead to. What a legend 👏

  • @Magazanga
    @Magazanga 2 роки тому +4

    I wonder if Karl could make a video about glitches and skips not found in games until years later?

  • @yoshimallow
    @yoshimallow Рік тому

    This reminds me of how Touval (someone who was at the time, an outsider to the Super Mario Sunshine community) ended up discovering Gelato Skip.

  • @Munkytron12
    @Munkytron12 2 роки тому

    Great video. Already looking forward to the Summoning Salt video on this next year 🤣

  • @mageius
    @mageius 2 роки тому +1

    There's some crazy skips that have been found by a lot of non speedrunners. My personal favorite is Reddit skip for Mega Man Battle Network. Basically some one on Reddit posted about having skipped the final dungeon in the game by doing something small but easily overlooked and it saved at least 10-20 minutes if I recall. And in an RPG like Battle Network is that's a solid time save.