One thing I do appreciate about Brother Cornell is that he calls everyone Brother and Sister. A small but I think a unifying piece to an otherwise gap we see between White and Black.
I thought the same thing until I realized that he always finds a way to circle back to something about how great black people are compared to another race... not very unifying
@@suffnthings4773 maybe look into history and see how much the Black community has been taken from in various ways. He just shines a light on some of the factual events of our past that can get looked over. Its not just to put Black people on top but it also helps younger generations see that they can be great and contribute like some White and Black people of the nations history who were overlooked. You don't have to just be an athlete or an entertainer to be a respected minority. You can aspire to be an intellectual. Its about taking pride in whatever heritage you are apart of.
Jedon Forcet I agree for the most part, but when it comes to race a lot can be misconstrued. At the end of the day I believe a unifying factor is critical for a nation or country. Something like an anthem or pledge and I don’t believe that this man wants to unify for good or at least for the good of our nation
@@suffnthings4773 I can respect your perspective for sure. I can agree that anything to do with race can definitely be misunderstood. But at the same time alot of the disruptive elements of racism really wasn't all that long ago and he is a man of a certain time and age so of course his perspective will be skewed. But at leasy he will engage in a dialogue and ultimately here in these comments we can have a dialogue in a decent respectful manner and maybe that is the win for all. I believe America is great when it appreciates all of its differences from the good to the ugly. He isn't demonizing anyone but why not have positive things to say about the people he has come from that have been through the mud. He isn't asking for violence but asking for people to open their eyes into all of our humanity. At least if we don't agree on exactly what he says we have been able to have a civil conversation about it lol. I hope we can agree that we need more of this. Good friendly debates that rest on solid values of humanity and respect.
@CEOofFRESH1 Black people means people of african decsent. Both of those countries you named are in Africa, so i think you are confused.. The arab invasion of north africa happened in 700 ad changing the demographics of those regions. Nubia has more pyrimids than Egypt. AANNNDDD i bet you didn't even watch the clip lol.
@E Lee well why do you think all the noses are missing off of the statues bcuz they were broad wide black peoples noses and evev if you look at the statues Nefertiti fuck it just doo the research and you can't deny they were black just like the Olmec heads they were black but so what? That's the problem black and white blah blah were all brothers man don't get caught up in the race shit good and bad people in every race .we have white brothers and sisters as well as Latin Asian whatever .all about the brother hood between all of us ,that's what Bob Marley meant when he sang one love . Yes one love to all my brothers and sisters white black brown yellow purple burgundy whatever let's get together and feel alright✌️🥴
@@jakobe_ I think that's the real problem...acting like there are different "Cultures"...there is only one culture, human culture...and attempting to divide and segregate that seems like the root of the problem...every individual is unique and of equal worth (Due to the complexity of humanity and the universe that we never know what someone might grow up to be)...and besides, if we are to survive for any length of time on what equates to a mote of dust hurtling thousands of miles per hour through an endless inhospitable void, I think we need all the minds and bodies we can muster in good condition and can't afford to be restricting ideas from them, abusing them, or throwing them away... Here's the news flash ladies and gents...the universe wasn't made for us...hell, we're damn lucky to be here at all thanks to a rogue meteor that killed the dinosaurs...so we should be a bit more goddamn humble when dealing with each other and not start bickering over minor differences like the random genetic fact about how much melanin you have or where and when your ancestors fucked...
He's a basic bitch supremacist cloaked in fancy words. He started a lot of this "cultural appropriation" in the '80s talking about the greatness of America is rooted in the black culture. Now he's acting like "can't we all get along" when he started it.
Man, something about the way this guy tells stories, the way he speaks and the words he uses...I could seriously listen to him talk about stuff for hours.
25 people didn't listen to the clip..and I'm not even a Cornel West fan. That's the problem with people. If someone makes sense, they make sense...doesnt matter if you particularly like them or not.
If it doesn't matter, why do you pay attention to the ratio anyway? And just because something someone said "makes sense" doesn't mean you have to agree with it or like what they say. I likes it because it has a different approach to the issue from what mainstream media talks about, but someone else can dis/like it for other reasons too. What is with this backwards thinking?
Think about it this way; if someone feels they have a legitimate disagreement with something they can articulate that in the comment section. If said people don't then it's likely something trivial or emotional based. In the realm of intellectualism; if something can't be deliberated I don't see how it has much value.
Thats the problem with left liberals. They dont like something instead of LYSTENING they use violence to silence your opinion OR shout you down in order to silence you.
Get Outta My Mama's House or Die Trying kpop is stealing billions a year from black American artists using their intellectual property. It’s a criminal enterprise
sefp Hardly. Kpop doesn’t sample anymore and often times less than American artists. It’s quite often that Korean artist’s work is getting ripped off, as well. There’s also been quite a bit of collaboration between Korean and American artists, especially now. Korean musicians are incredibly popular but their profit margins are pretty low. GDragon is the highest paid Korean artist and he only has a net worth of 8 million compare that to Beyoncé, Kanye West, or Rihanna and then tell me how much they’re stealing from black artists. It’s harder for Asians to break into the entertainment industry than any race. You’re being petty, coveting that tiny piece the Asian entertainment industry has earned for itself.
Positive Echo how can you rip of a something that is pureley a fake and rip off. There nothing new or original or organic about kpop it’s imitation of Afro Americans identity culture performance pop culture
I like Dr. West and know he is not a racist like a lot of folks think. If you actually listen to his words you can see the man has no hate in his heart.I don't agree with a bit of what he has said but people should at least listen before judging him.
@Dee Gee Dee have you listened to the podcast? or any other stuff Cornel has written? Dr. West mentions in the podcast real ways to curb racism against white people from the black community. Why would a black supremacist talk about things like this? Hint.he is not one. He uses a lot of the terminology that people on the far left use to slander innocent people but he actually uses them correctly and with honesty. Before I get accused of being a far leftist I am a white Trump voter that grew up in the inner city and understand black culture and the community more than most people I think. Dee if you read his work, listen to his words and still think he is a racist I would disagree but respect your opinion.
Well on the topic of cultural appropriation. American whites, Indians and Asians are killing it in this country. What's the blacks excuse? Is it policy? Culture? Why are they so far behind when they've been here longer than both?
I agree with Brother West....I lived in Korea for over 4 years all over the country. He's absolutely true that there's something really amazing about Korean music. It's not just KPOP. When Koreans get into Blues and Jazz, they take it to a place of emotional and technical mastery that's spectacular. I attribute it in part to the fact they have had their own blue history as a broken, separated and oppressed people.
Brandon Bufe man i was blown away this guy mentioned urban zakappa omg. Nell is another amazing band. was listening to them back in 2004 and before. Korean music is so under rated it's criminal
@@kenwu7 I just checked out Urban Zakapa after Dr West talking about them. Man, this is seriously soulful music! Dr West helped me realize that my understanding of today's Korean music was somewhat superficial. By the way I am Korean, born and raised in the country, so I am even more impressed by the comprehensiveness of this man's cultural understanding.
wrong. When someone quote's Charlie Parker in a jazz solo, everyone knows it. Its not secret that they're quoting him. Its part of a learning process, like learning a language, they aren't stealing a public speech. This is just an evil idea to silence jazz and destroy it. Don't blindly follow evil prophets that come from a stand point of "love," when they come from a position of pure hate. Jazz brings us together. He's trying to separate us. I'm Black, and he's definitely not my brother.
@Ty Jackson Humans are a species, that is a fact. The only reason people will say “human race” is because it sounds better than saying “human species.” Humans have always been a species and that will never change.
“Roots and Routes.” Simply put: That’s one of the wisest ways I’ve ever heard anyone say (and in many ways prove) that cultural appropriation is usually a very positive thing.
Definitely trigger trumper's they basically only have a few sources of information it and everything else they just right off before they even listen to what it is I have a friend that's a trump supporter he won't even listen to others or gather information except from one or two resources that he considers is right lol critical thinking is just not there
This man has that way of speaking that makes me forget about the title I clicked on and get totally sucked in to him talking about the history of music.
yup, SRV manages to sound like both hendrix and albert king at the same time lmao. Though, all three of them definitely had their own things going as well
I am Korean but didn't know about Urban Zakapa that Dr West was talking about. Checked out some of their songs and I am floored. I can't believe this guy's understanding about today's Korean music is deeper than that of me who was born and raised in Korea :P
kinda late but i found out about urban zakapa cause of bts lmao cause they covered the song coffee which was by urban zakapa. And to see him mention the two groups is cool to me.
Seriously, how can you not love this man? Every now and then, there are a couple things I disagree with West on, but this man is the shit. My life goal is to meet him, have him call me “Brother Chris”, and go to a jazz bar with him.
Scotland wasn't colonized, the first british king was scottish, the UK or British Empire or Great Britian was formed through a personal union, yes the center of power laid in the South, in England, but it's hardly a colonization.
What's more, if you look at the actual beneficiaries and agents of British colonialism - particularly in places like India and Canada - they were disproportionately Scottish. It's a real stretch to portray Scotland as "victims" of British imperialism.
Scotland was subjugated by the English, just like Ireland was. It’s a remnant of British imperialism that deserves to be freed, as well as the English colony in Northern Ireland. 🏴🇮🇪
Salt-Upon-Wounds colonisation is defined as "establishing control over the indigenous people of an area" - considering how powerful the English were in comparison to the scots, when James VI ascended to the Throne of England and Ireland (as Ireland had already submitted, and wales was treated as a non-entity, despite being under British rule for hundreds of years) he stayed in England, throughout his life and ruled over Scotland, England, Ireland and Wales alone. All the countries under English rule were subservient to the power of the crown in London. Fuck, it wasn’t even until 1998 until the Scottish Parliament act went through the legislature process in London, that Scotland got any parliamentary autonomy from London.
He has a point. Music (and many other art forms) is going to travel no matter what and will inspire others to mimic, add their own style and share with their peers. I think the 'cultural appropriation' view-point is a joke when it comes to music. You can't hate on someone who has a different face be inspired to create something that is 'technically' not theirs. Maybe that 'style' of music spoke to them on a deep-spiritual level? That's whole idea behind music is to share with others, connect and allow the unknown to create something better.
Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery, and we are all humans. The whole concept of "cultural appropriation" divides us and is poisonous, in my opinion.
Rion what fake history are you talking about? And just because you don’t believe something to be true doesn’t mean it isn’t. P.S learn to love yourself bra everything is going to be ok lol
Rion The OP is talking about you dumbass lol. Black Israelites don't represent all black people, just like the Hitler youth doesn't represent all white people. I still have yet to meet a black person that believes in all the "we wuz kings" BS they always end up laughing when I bring up those insane conspiracies.
JDeezy3806 Hoop earrings and Dread Locks are just a couple of examples. Both of those White people had first, but the Democratic Party tried to say it was Black people that had that first. They only did that to divide people.
Yeah, and most of them were black bigots. Cause the synopsis of this video is "cultural appropriation" isnt real and blacks should stop yelling at other people to stop "stealing" their culture cause culture is all derivative anyhow.
This guy has a really positive and constructive attitude. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. People who are open minded and enjoy trying new things are often labeled as “posers.” I think the opposite is true.
Imagine the irony of downvoting a video because you assumed what he would say about cultural appropriation... and then having the audacity to speak from a moral soapbox about how black people always focus on race. It's like people don't own mirrors.
Yes, worth watching.. not what I expected by the title.. the usual “oh, woe is me”..this type of conversation bridges and eliminates the racial barriers..
I remember reading West's book "Race Matters" in like 10th grade. It hurt my young mind and then healed it. As a black youth, this is the nature of our psychology: destroyed by sensory revelation and healed by social structural potentiality. Its prally why I liked Obama's hope trope.... without hope I only had my people and pain...and a bleak horizon. I still do, but its conversations like this that remind me otherwise.
*Yes, Dr. Cornel West...he is such a National Treasure! I swear he is sooooooo pure of Heart, it's almost Impossible to deny the Man a genuine conversation. He is just that Amazing!*
Identity politics serves to divide us from the universality of our common humanity. Instead of the divisive insistence of cultural appropriation, let us think of cultural sharing. Good bless our dear brother Cornel.
I disagree with Dr West on a myriad of things but the man speaks sense and has a very measured approach. He has my respect. Music is a great unifying force and the exchange of styles between peoples has done nothing but good for our species.
my man. I love how he refers to everyone as brothers. I get shit thrown at me for being a middle of the road type of guy but this man right here puts in the best of words how I feel about the whole appropriation thing.
As a South American person (Uruguayan), I see nothing wrong in wearing clothings that represent our culture as long as you do it in a respectful way, i.e., not ridiculing or profiting from it. There’s nothing wrong with celebrating another people’s culture and appreciating the beauty of it. It’s a good way to break down barriers b/w people and promote harmony and understanding.
It's because black people have not economically benefited from the amazing culture and talent they have gave to use and everyone else has ripped them off while holding them back from industries that networks for them to build wealth, so it's a natural response of fustration from a people that has give and contributed so much and got so little back historically
Culture Appropriation as an offense is an American/Western idea. I lived in China for 7 years, If an American woman wore one of their traditional dresses they would consider to be a complement and not cultural appropriation. If an American or a westerner studies Kung Fu in China it is not considered cultural appropriation by the Chinese in fact I encourage it because they believe that their culture is unique and sometimes even superior
I love Cornel West, because I know that even if we don't agree on everything, if we were to sit down we could talk about it in mutual respect, listen to each other, not let prejudice determine the course our conversation is going to take, and walk away from it with a deeper understanding of each other. He doesn't yell and he doesn't shame people. He talks, and importantly he also listens to people who don't share his views or have differing opinions. With Dr. West communication is always a two-way street -- not just sending, but also receiving, and that, unfortunately, has become a rare thing in today's world. Far too many people are only interested in conveying their own message, and have no interest in hearing anyone else's. And that's not limited to one political party, or one side of the political spectrum. It's not even limited to the world of politics, it affects pretty much everything: sports, health, science & technology, diet, just about anything imaginable.
Black men get a lot of respect from WHITE people. We let them play the games we created over a century ago and are part of WHITE culture. And they make a lot of money doing it. Like the NFL, NBA and MLB.
That's the most bullshit lie you could ever say Only black people say that stupidity shit but yet none of blacks take the time to understand that whites made the cloths you all wear music you hear cars you ride in to work or whatever you go You all want to dress like a white men ride a car like a white men live in a civil nation because last time I checked history black people didn't invent none of those things you all came from the jungle of West Africa tribes that didn't even have cloths on lol
Just get the fuck away from them Scott Adams. Ever black person calls each other a nigga until a white men says to it then black people don't want to be called a nigga lol
"Blues is the perfect marriage of emotion and technique, which Jazz is the perfect marriage of intellect and technique." --Which I could credit the person but can remember him and it didn't come up on a google search
Who the fuck cares? And as far as basketball goes the blacks may not have invented basketball but they dominate in it. They dominate whites in basketball, football, baseball, track and field and pretty much every sport but hockey and swimming.
@P C lol, you missed the whole point, the western culture that we know today has been built by different cultures mixing together and enriching each other, the fact that you wanna attribute it to a certain group and exclude certain groups from it is not only impossible by its very nature, but also the reason why certain groups that have been integral to the culture feel excluded and underappreciated
Hendrix didn't actually make up the "Hendrix" chord he just made it popular. IMO the barrier to start jazz music is much larger than blues. Blues you can start with a 1-4-5 progression and then expand. Jazz is usually more chords. Obviously theres exceptions and both are awesome.
I love this discussion...you could literally take it back to the chanting monks and minstrels of Europe or the beats of African tribes...music is cumulative and additive (as the human network expands)...as Newton said, "If I see beyond others it is because I stand on the shoulders of giants."
As a leftist, how does Cornell West address non-binary, gender neutral, gender fluid etc. people? If not Brother Smith or Sister Smith--I guess... Sibling Smith?
"The Roots are Black, but the routes are global."
Righteous.
Factz
Black has no culture
@Kelp Farming yes . As a jew I cant stand her parasic culture
@@user-dx8fk3tt3w it's funny when a jew hates an entire group of people.
@@im_aleey i dont hate black pepole. I hate black pepole who hate me
One thing I do appreciate about Brother Cornell is that he calls everyone Brother and Sister. A small but I think a unifying piece to an otherwise gap we see between White and Black.
I thought the same thing until I realized that he always finds a way to circle back to something about how great black people are compared to another race... not very unifying
Jedon Forcet great observation brother...I’m very fond of this man...for me he is very good at articulating his message...great podcast...great guest
@@suffnthings4773 maybe look into history and see how much the Black community has been taken from in various ways. He just shines a light on some of the factual events of our past that can get looked over. Its not just to put Black people on top but it also helps younger generations see that they can be great and contribute like some White and Black people of the nations history who were overlooked. You don't have to just be an athlete or an entertainer to be a respected minority. You can aspire to be an intellectual. Its about taking pride in whatever heritage you are apart of.
Jedon Forcet I agree for the most part, but when it comes to race a lot can be misconstrued. At the end of the day I believe a unifying factor is critical for a nation or country. Something like an anthem or pledge and I don’t believe that this man wants to unify for good or at least for the good of our nation
@@suffnthings4773 I can respect your perspective for sure. I can agree that anything to do with race can definitely be misunderstood. But at the same time alot of the disruptive elements of racism really wasn't all that long ago and he is a man of a certain time and age so of course his perspective will be skewed. But at leasy he will engage in a dialogue and ultimately here in these comments we can have a dialogue in a decent respectful manner and maybe that is the win for all. I believe America is great when it appreciates all of its differences from the good to the ugly. He isn't demonizing anyone but why not have positive things to say about the people he has come from that have been through the mud. He isn't asking for violence but asking for people to open their eyes into all of our humanity. At least if we don't agree on exactly what he says we have been able to have a civil conversation about it lol. I hope we can agree that we need more of this. Good friendly debates that rest on solid values of humanity and respect.
Goddamn I love the whole brother/sister thing he does.
@CEOofFRESH1 Black people means people of african decsent. Both of those countries you named are in Africa, so i think you are confused.. The arab invasion of north africa happened in 700 ad changing the demographics of those regions. Nubia has more pyrimids than Egypt. AANNNDDD i bet you didn't even watch the clip lol.
@E Lee well why do you think all the noses are missing off of the statues bcuz they were broad wide black peoples noses and evev if you look at the statues Nefertiti fuck it just doo the research and you can't deny they were black just like the Olmec heads they were black but so what? That's the problem black and white blah blah were all brothers man don't get caught up in the race shit good and bad people in every race .we have white brothers and sisters as well as Latin Asian whatever .all about the brother hood between all of us ,that's what Bob Marley meant when he sang one love . Yes one love to all my brothers and sisters white black brown yellow purple burgundy whatever let's get together and feel alright✌️🥴
It’s never cultural appropriation when you give credit where credit is due. Anyone can do anything just appreciate where you got the inspiration from.
Exactly, if you give credit. I completely agree. Ppl don't like when others act as though they created it.
spot on
Give credit to what the world is diverse and everything evolves if you like it or not if you like something you imitate it its a flattery
I feel like it’s still harmful especially if the ppl or that culture want preserve it
@@jakobe_ I think that's the real problem...acting like there are different "Cultures"...there is only one culture, human culture...and attempting to divide and segregate that seems like the root of the problem...every individual is unique and of equal worth (Due to the complexity of humanity and the universe that we never know what someone might grow up to be)...and besides, if we are to survive for any length of time on what equates to a mote of dust hurtling thousands of miles per hour through an endless inhospitable void, I think we need all the minds and bodies we can muster in good condition and can't afford to be restricting ideas from them, abusing them, or throwing them away...
Here's the news flash ladies and gents...the universe wasn't made for us...hell, we're damn lucky to be here at all thanks to a rogue meteor that killed the dinosaurs...so we should be a bit more goddamn humble when dealing with each other and not start bickering over minor differences like the random genetic fact about how much melanin you have or where and when your ancestors fucked...
This is what happens when super educated and well read come together with love and empathy. He's like a complete person.
He's a basic bitch supremacist cloaked in fancy words. He started a lot of this "cultural appropriation" in the '80s talking about the greatness of America is rooted in the black culture. Now he's acting like "can't we all get along" when he started it.
Man, something about the way this guy tells stories, the way he speaks and the words he uses...I could seriously listen to him talk about stuff for hours.
yaburu he is a professor speaking is his job
Got some ASMR going on this one.
he's so intelligent, and understands that words have meaning and purpose, and uses them extremely wisely
25 people didn't listen to the clip..and I'm not even a Cornel West fan. That's the problem with people. If someone makes sense, they make sense...doesnt matter if you particularly like them or not.
Read my mind next!
If it doesn't matter, why do you pay attention to the ratio anyway? And just because something someone said "makes sense" doesn't mean you have to agree with it or like what they say. I likes it because it has a different approach to the issue from what mainstream media talks about, but someone else can dis/like it for other reasons too. What is with this backwards thinking?
Think about it this way; if someone feels they have a legitimate disagreement with something they can articulate that in the comment section. If said people don't then it's likely something trivial or emotional based.
In the realm of intellectualism; if something can't be deliberated I don't see how it has much value.
It's a right winger's worst nightmare, aka reality: different cultures blending together and enriching each other.
Thats the problem with left liberals. They dont like something instead of LYSTENING they use violence to silence your opinion OR shout you down in order to silence you.
Cornel West listening to KPOP this is the best timeline
Get Outta My Mama's House or Die Trying kpop is stealing billions a year from black American artists using their intellectual property. It’s a criminal enterprise
sefp Hardly. Kpop doesn’t sample anymore and often times less than American artists. It’s quite often that Korean artist’s work is getting ripped off, as well. There’s also been quite a bit of collaboration between Korean and American artists, especially now. Korean musicians are incredibly popular but their profit margins are pretty low. GDragon is the highest paid Korean artist and he only has a net worth of 8 million compare that to Beyoncé, Kanye West, or Rihanna and then tell me how much they’re stealing from black artists. It’s harder for Asians to break into the entertainment industry than any race. You’re being petty, coveting that tiny piece the Asian entertainment industry has earned for itself.
Positive Echo how can you rip of a something that is pureley a fake and rip off. There nothing new or original or organic about kpop it’s imitation of Afro Americans identity culture performance pop culture
Positive Echo is 5billion a year in theft from my family going to Korean imposters petty
sefp so has literally every rock band ever.
I'm glad I watched instead of judging a story by its title and moving on.
I like Dr. West and know he is not a racist like a lot of folks think. If you actually listen to his words you can see the man has no hate in his heart.I don't agree with a bit of what he has said but people should at least listen before judging him.
yea, i really dig how he speaks about guitar players.
@Dee Gee Dee have you listened to the podcast? or any other stuff Cornel has written? Dr. West mentions in the podcast real ways to curb racism against white people from the black community. Why would a black supremacist talk about things like this? Hint.he is not one. He uses a lot of the terminology that people on the far left use to slander innocent people but he actually uses them correctly and with honesty.
Before I get accused of being a far leftist I am a white Trump voter that grew up in the inner city and understand black culture and the community more than most people I think. Dee if you read his work, listen to his words and still think he is a racist I would disagree but respect your opinion.
Well on the topic of cultural appropriation. American whites, Indians and Asians are killing it in this country. What's the blacks excuse? Is it policy? Culture? Why are they so far behind when they've been here longer than both?
Bro same
I agree with Brother West....I lived in Korea for over 4 years all over the country. He's absolutely true that there's something really amazing about Korean music. It's not just KPOP. When Koreans get into Blues and Jazz, they take it to a place of emotional and technical mastery that's spectacular. I attribute it in part to the fact they have had their own blue history as a broken, separated and oppressed people.
Brandon Bufe
man i was blown away this guy mentioned urban zakappa omg. Nell is another amazing band. was listening to them back in 2004 and before. Korean music is so under rated it's criminal
@@kenwu7 I just checked out Urban Zakapa after Dr West talking about them. Man, this is seriously soulful music! Dr West helped me realize that my understanding of today's Korean music was somewhat superficial. By the way I am Korean, born and raised in the country, so I am even more impressed by the comprehensiveness of this man's cultural understanding.
wrong. When someone quote's Charlie Parker in a jazz solo, everyone knows it. Its not secret that they're quoting him. Its part of a learning process, like learning a language, they aren't stealing a public speech. This is just an evil idea to silence jazz and destroy it. Don't blindly follow evil prophets that come from a stand point of "love," when they come from a position of pure hate. Jazz brings us together. He's trying to separate us. I'm Black, and he's definitely not my brother.
Once you realize porn is illegal in South Korea, then it all makes sense.
@@zsedcftglkjh it's kinda a weird thing over there, u can watch the porn but you wouldn't be able to create it.
Such a great discussion these two had. West brings awesome sympathy and balance to sensitive topics.
Nice to hear someone NOT limit or define people by their race.
Facts
This video alone shows just how culturally enriched Cornel West is.
And how happy and b excited he is to talk about it. This man truly just loves culture
Brother spreading the love and the culture of us as a human race
killuandyomamma Humans are a species, not a race.
@s why do you feel the need to insult along with your educational lines?
@Ty Jackson Humans are a species, that is a fact. The only reason people will say “human race” is because it sounds better than saying “human species.” Humans have always been a species and that will never change.
I'm glad this conversation was recorded.
“Roots and Routes.” Simply put: That’s one of the wisest ways I’ve ever heard anyone say (and in many ways prove) that cultural appropriation is usually a very positive thing.
I saw BB King in the late 90s as well. Such a powerful voice. He was still standing at that time. For a young metal head, mind blown.
most people will downvote because of the title without even listening
triggered conservacucks
Rion or maybe people should actually listen before judging
And why wouldnt they....cultural appropriation isnt a thing...so yeah
Voice of Reason you poor, sheltered child. Grow up
Definitely trigger trumper's they basically only have a few sources of information it and everything else they just right off before they even listen to what it is I have a friend that's a trump supporter he won't even listen to others or gather information except from one or two resources that he considers is right lol critical thinking is just not there
Cool that he says that being inspired doesn’t mean stealing.
This man has that way of speaking that makes me forget about the title I clicked on and get totally sucked in to him talking about the history of music.
We all need more of this brother's spirit. This world could use it.
The whole part at the end, about the roots, will be in my mind til the end of time.
Man, I like this guy. From this clip alone I wanna know more and more about him
Hope you take the time to watch the whole interview. He tore into Al Sharpton one time too.
He's awesome
Always felt like SRV played Jimi Hendrix like he was Albert King
Live at the El Macombo
It’s interesting opinion , I like his sound , he played on very thick strings
The speed at which SRV played is just amazing. And that’s with super at thick strings
yup, SRV manages to sound like both hendrix and albert king at the same time lmao. Though, all three of them definitely had their own things going as well
Haha that’s insightful. Maybe SRVs sound was what Albert would’ve sounded like if he’d used an effects petal lol
I am Korean but didn't know about Urban Zakapa that Dr West was talking about. Checked out some of their songs and I am floored. I can't believe this guy's understanding about today's Korean music is deeper than that of me who was born and raised in Korea :P
kinda late but i found out about urban zakapa cause of bts lmao cause they covered the song coffee which was by urban zakapa. And to see him mention the two groups is cool to me.
@@dentonkellyjr8095 Oh I see. BTS is doing a lot of good for other Korean musicians.
Urban Zakapa was pretty huge in early 2010s. Alot of Koreans know this group! You should also check out bands like Hyuk Oh Band
Seriously, how can you not love this man? Every now and then, there are a couple things I disagree with West on, but this man is the shit. My life goal is to meet him, have him call me “Brother Chris”, and go to a jazz bar with him.
I really like the way this guy talks. Very precise in the words he chooses to make his point.
Well, now, he is an associate professor at Harvard, let's not forget...
Scotland wasn't colonized, the first british king was scottish, the UK or British Empire or Great Britian was formed through a personal union, yes the center of power laid in the South, in England, but it's hardly a colonization.
What's more, if you look at the actual beneficiaries and agents of British colonialism - particularly in places like India and Canada - they were disproportionately Scottish. It's a real stretch to portray Scotland as "victims" of British imperialism.
Scotland was subjugated by the English, just like Ireland was. It’s a remnant of British imperialism that deserves to be freed, as well as the English colony in Northern Ireland. 🏴🇮🇪
Salt-Upon-Wounds colonisation is defined as "establishing control over the indigenous people of an area" - considering how powerful the English were in comparison to the scots, when James VI ascended to the Throne of England and Ireland (as Ireland had already submitted, and wales was treated as a non-entity, despite being under British rule for hundreds of years) he stayed in England, throughout his life and ruled over Scotland, England, Ireland and Wales alone. All the countries under English rule were subservient to the power of the crown in London. Fuck, it wasn’t even until 1998 until the Scottish Parliament act went through the legislature process in London, that Scotland got any parliamentary autonomy from London.
@@davidfranklin5434 say that to the Highlanders
Cornel West is one of the smartest intellectuals alive. And one of my favorite people. He is ALWAYS a voice of reason.
He has a point. Music (and many other art forms) is going to travel no matter what and will inspire others to mimic, add their own style and share with their peers. I think the 'cultural appropriation' view-point is a joke when it comes to music. You can't hate on someone who has a different face be inspired to create something that is 'technically' not theirs. Maybe that 'style' of music spoke to them on a deep-spiritual level? That's whole idea behind music is to share with others, connect and allow the unknown to create something better.
He has a refreshing look on this topic that I wish a lot of people had.
thank you for your insight oh mighty being
Yugo ok
Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery, and we are all humans. The whole concept of "cultural appropriation" divides us and is poisonous, in my opinion.
I agree with Cornell West about the K-pop scene ; in the same breath I primarily listen to J-pop : 80's.
Tatsuro Yamashita is a definite favorite.
lol your hipster ass would be named pierre lebeau
Listen to Akiko Yano
@@christiandegges1663 - will do.
Haters talk spit, legends uplift.
I love it
These comments remind me how low self esteem really makes people overcompensate.
Rion facts!!
Rion what fake history?
Rion what fake history are you talking about? And just because you don’t believe something to be true doesn’t mean it isn’t. P.S learn to love yourself bra everything is going to be ok lol
Rion The OP is talking about you dumbass lol. Black Israelites don't represent all black people, just like the Hitler youth doesn't represent all white people. I still have yet to meet a black person that believes in all the "we wuz kings" BS they always end up laughing when I bring up those insane conspiracies.
JDeezy3806 Hoop earrings and Dread Locks are just a couple of examples. Both of those White people had first, but the Democratic Party tried to say it was Black people that had that first. They only did that to divide people.
"Average white band...... from Scotland!" Lol. Loved that.
80% of the people didn't even watch the video
@insultmeplease look up hyperbole
Yeah, and most of them were black bigots. Cause the synopsis of this video is "cultural appropriation" isnt real and blacks should stop yelling at other people to stop "stealing" their culture cause culture is all derivative anyhow.
@@MrAhuraMazda no most of the comments are angry white dudes
True philosopher we all need today...more than ever. Rational discussion instead of polarizing politics.
I'm going to appropriate the stylisation of the Good Doctor's way of calling everyone his brothers and sisters
Looks at the dislikes.... ya'll did not watch the whole video did you?
That would require patience and grace, something most conservatives dont have.
Alt right hive mind
@@Anasthera I think its more of an ignorant than conservative issue personally.
Nope they flew on bye
@@Anasthera I've seen ignorance and prejudice in both parties...They just show it in different ways
This guy has a really positive and constructive attitude. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. People who are open minded and enjoy trying new things are often labeled as “posers.” I think the opposite is true.
Brother, I’ve been jamming to Charlie Pride since way back.
Ain’t no thing.
Everyones funky in Scotland. in fact, The Average White Band got kicked out of Scotland for not being funky ENOUGH.
Lmao
Imagine the irony of downvoting a video because you assumed what he would say about cultural appropriation... and then having the audacity to speak from a moral soapbox about how black people always focus on race. It's like people don't own mirrors.
Yes, worth watching.. not what I expected by the title.. the usual “oh, woe is me”..this type of conversation bridges and eliminates the racial barriers..
you are so smart you deserve a billion dollars
Not the strawman version of the left that the right likes to argue against.
Cornell West is listening to Kpop?
I thought for a second the thumbnail was of Samual Jackson from Unbreakable lol
I remember reading West's book "Race Matters" in like 10th grade. It hurt my young mind and then healed it. As a black youth, this is the nature of our psychology: destroyed by sensory revelation and healed by social structural potentiality. Its prally why I liked Obama's hope trope.... without hope I only had my people and pain...and a bleak horizon. I still do, but its conversations like this that remind me otherwise.
"Race matters"
It is not possible to disagrees with this and be racist. Racism begins with treating people differently based on race.
*Yes, Dr. Cornel West...he is such a National Treasure! I swear he is sooooooo pure of Heart, it's almost Impossible to deny the Man a genuine conversation. He is just that Amazing!*
What a beautiful human this man is.
Great insight. Love it.
Identity politics serves to divide us from the universality of our common humanity. Instead of the divisive insistence of cultural appropriation, let us think of cultural sharing. Good bless our dear brother Cornel.
I dont know anything about West, but man he can make anything sound interesting.
I disagree with Dr West on a myriad of things but the man speaks sense and has a very measured approach. He has my respect.
Music is a great unifying force and the exchange of styles between peoples has done nothing but good for our species.
@@PlzPr3sspl4y I mean he's hardcore DSA so there's that.
dude,fuck off you are a NOBODY just a damn white supremist
my man. I love how he refers to everyone as brothers. I get shit thrown at me for being a middle of the road type of guy but this man right here puts in the best of words how I feel about the whole appropriation thing.
Lawd have mercy.
Scottish Brother got soul....Finally someone acknowledges the genius of the Proclaimers!
As a South American person (Uruguayan), I see nothing wrong in wearing clothings that represent our culture as long as you do it in a respectful way, i.e., not ridiculing or profiting from it. There’s nothing wrong with celebrating another people’s culture and appreciating the beauty of it. It’s a good way to break down barriers b/w people and promote harmony and understanding.
Great interview, good to get to know someone we normally only see in sound bites. Wider knowledge!
It's because black people have not economically benefited from the amazing culture and talent they have gave to use and everyone else has ripped them off while holding them back from industries that networks for them to build wealth, so it's a natural response of fustration from a people that has give and contributed so much and got so little back historically
There is no “black culture”
Black people aint a monolith that all under one culture
Culture about where you from not race
Who is this man?!?!?
Where has he been my whole life!!!!
Bootsy Collins ftw
Culture Appropriation as an offense is an American/Western idea. I lived in China for 7 years, If an American woman wore one of their traditional dresses they would consider to be a complement and not cultural appropriation. If an American or a westerner studies Kung Fu in China it is not considered cultural appropriation by the Chinese in fact I encourage it because they believe that their culture is unique and sometimes even superior
beautiful stuff, we need so much more of this
People not from the south really appreciating brother/sister thing lol
I love Cornel West, because I know that even if we don't agree on everything, if we were to sit down we could talk about it in mutual respect, listen to each other, not let prejudice determine the course our conversation is going to take, and walk away from it with a deeper understanding of each other. He doesn't yell and he doesn't shame people. He talks, and importantly he also listens to people who don't share his views or have differing opinions. With Dr. West communication is always a two-way street -- not just sending, but also receiving, and that, unfortunately, has become a rare thing in today's world. Far too many people are only interested in conveying their own message, and have no interest in hearing anyone else's. And that's not limited to one political party, or one side of the political spectrum. It's not even limited to the world of politics, it affects pretty much everything: sports, health, science & technology, diet, just about anything imaginable.
Black men get a lot of respect from WHITE people. We let them play the games we created over a century ago and are part of WHITE culture. And they make a lot of money doing it. Like the NFL, NBA and MLB.
Canned heat were know as the only "white boys" to truly play the blues
i could listen to this man forever
Jimmy got a lot of his style from Sister Rosetta Tharpe. Most of Rock and Roll owes a debt to her.
West's voice is so fucking soothing
"Evryboy wants to be a nigga but no one wants to be a nigga." Paul Mooney.
That's the most bullshit lie you could ever say
Only black people say that stupidity shit but yet none of blacks take the time to understand that whites made the cloths you all wear music you hear cars you ride in to work or whatever you go
You all want to dress like a white men ride a car like a white men live in a civil nation because last time I checked history black people didn't invent none of those things you all came from the jungle of West Africa tribes that didn't even have cloths on lol
Just get the fuck away from them
Scott Adams.
Ever black person calls each other a nigga until a white men says to it then black people don't want to be called a nigga lol
I would compare SRV to Albert King before Hendrix.
"Blues is the perfect marriage of emotion and technique, which Jazz is the perfect marriage of intellect and technique."
--Which I could credit the person but can remember him and it didn't come up on a google search
There is no way you can hate cornel west
Thsi was a really cool way to explain this, awesome stuff.
This guy is fantastic, love everything he's got to say
Preach it Brother West. ❤️
This man knows the deal. Human is human
Brother West a poet.
Breath of fresh air
Man, I wish I could speak like him
The roots are black but the routes are global💙
Who the fuck cares? And as far as basketball goes the blacks may not have invented basketball but they dominate in it. They dominate whites in basketball, football, baseball, track and field and pretty much every sport but hockey and swimming.
@P C literally, only one side accuses the other of not assimilating/ not contributing to the culture
@P C lol, you missed the whole point, the western culture that we know today has been built by different cultures mixing together and enriching each other, the fact that you wanna attribute it to a certain group and exclude certain groups from it is not only impossible by its very nature, but also the reason why certain groups that have been integral to the culture feel excluded and underappreciated
Hendrix didn't actually make up the "Hendrix" chord he just made it popular. IMO the barrier to start jazz music is much larger than blues. Blues you can start with a 1-4-5 progression and then expand. Jazz is usually more chords. Obviously theres exceptions and both are awesome.
After slavery Africans started singing out of happiness and sadness but not in tv Hendrix just got famous from it.
Yall need to get on that LOVE TRAIN
Is this the first time Rogan had Cornel on the podcast?
AMERICA SHOULD BE CAMPAIGNING AND VOTING FOR THIS GUY OVER THE TWO SCHMUCKS IN THE RULING PARTIES!!!
I love bts and k hip hop rappers it's so good
I just love this man
*Eminem is a genius, no doubt. 🐐*
Lord Jamar : listen to a wise older Brother
What a cool old dude, he makes everything he says sound so profound and intellectual, but smooth as fuck at the same time. Old age goals for me.
Cornell West is like if Noam Chomsky and Billy Dee Williams had a baby.
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I love this discussion...you could literally take it back to the chanting monks and minstrels of Europe or the beats of African tribes...music is cumulative and additive (as the human network expands)...as Newton said, "If I see beyond others it is because I stand on the shoulders of giants."
I’m so intrigued by this man.
Cornel West praising eminem? Let's gooooo
As a leftist, how does Cornell West address non-binary, gender neutral, gender fluid etc. people? If not Brother Smith or Sister Smith--I guess... Sibling Smith?
I wonder how many people here saw the title "Cultural appropriation" and just clicked dislike.
I don't understand the dislike ratio.
you wonder about stupid shit
he's just the most wonderful person
Joe's reactions are hilarious
Comment section looks exactly like I thought lol
@insultmeplease =)
@Daniel no I'm gonna lol
Exactly, people saying "the comment section looks exactly how I thought" are retarded.
@@darthnihiluz5305 lol someone offended
@@stuartmccleary Only as a troll. You need to step up your game.