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jon smith Thanks to a slippery adherence to the First Amendment of the US Constitution, you can find gems among the devastations of Capitalist aggression domestic and foreign, the trillions stolen in banking fraud, the global ecological horrors, the toxic plastic dog shit of corporate media, the lying of "leaders," the human PTSD, the overcrowded prisons, the torture, the grueling poverty, the precarious wage-slavery, the dumbing down of millions in schools, and the horrific debt of young adults for useless degrees at the top end of that dumbing down - but you have to find them yourself.
That's an incredibly interesting list of government programs, but I fail to see what it has to do with capitalistic trade. I'm glad you're able to express your ideas to the world in this forum though; arguably the most open and free market in human history.
Brilliant to distinguish individualism from individuality. Socialism is based on individuality to participate in democracy. Capitalism uses individualism as a dogma to undercut cooperation and social values.
@@phillyphilosopher1 Because the dominant culture tells us that we must be independent, stand on our own two feet, and you are morally deficient if you need to depend on others for your well-being. This makes people under capitalism "just deal with it" instead of looking to cooperate with others to improve their position and their community's position
@@defro125 I disagree. There's no better VOLUNTARY cooperation than Capitalism. People spontaneously work together everyday. Shit, I'm at work as we speak 😂
@@phillyphilosopher1 Voluntary? The majority of workers in the US have jobs that they do not enjoy but must take in order to survive. That isn't freedom. Most people do not have the economic freedom to not work for a period of time to find a job that would be more fulfilling or to try to build their own company.
If I had one wish, I'd like to see Dr. West as number 46. But in reality I'm voting for the person Dr. West supports in the 2020 primary, Senator Bernie Sanders.
Paradise Care Services You mean the same Berney who just got an education on economics? Berney who is NOW paying his campaign workers 15 an hour but said he now is limiting their hours cause of said raise? LMAO! Can’t hide from math!!
@@SuperDeathunder Aaaand I just found out they didn't "cut hours", it was more like "please don't work overtime until we reach an agreement with the union". MSM has used this simple thing to make a *massive* smear hit piece. Right wing media are lying POS
Alberto T. I’ll keep an eye on it! Fox interview with Berney says everything. They said your a millionaire why don’t u give your wealth away? His response? Why don’t u give your wealth away? She said I’m not the one advocating for it you are. Berney said well anyone can write a best selling book and they can do what they want with the money. Like a true socialist everyone BUT him should participate. Like Obama Care. It’s good for everyone but congress passed a special bill exempting government from having to take on Obama care. Good for us! NOT for them! Open your eyes
I lived in Europe for over twenty years and everyone knows Marx. The have powerful unions, know how to mobilize and organize, and they think critically. They make and remake parties of all stripes. They also have various forms of the 'right', various 'conservatisms'. In the US, capitalism IS politics -and even religion.
R2D2 SL Every major party in Europe puts capital before people. That’s kinda the sole purpose of European politics and western politics in general. Not much else to say
@@SJO897 certainly, but I think they differ in form and intensity (in relation to the United States, obviously). Conservatism in the United States makes an amalgam between capitalism and Christianity like in no other country. without animating to sound coarse I have seen expressions like: "Jesus is republican, therefore he is a defender of the capitalist free market"
It's absolutely true that ideas about economics in the USA are essentially similar to religious dogma that, if questioned, lead to anger, shunning and potentially violent repression.
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I am so impressed with both of your guests. Cornel West, though, you know he's so warm, loving, brilliant. You can feel the man's love for all human beings, his brothers and sisters. His isn't fake love, not some kind of contrived or "look at me how loving I am, I go to church on church day" love. It's for real and it's alive. I can feel it every time I hear him speak. Remarkable.
+rumco I noticed that stroke of genius! 2 Marxists of a feather flow together like cream in the coffee...yum. I'm afraid, btw, that to a certain degree, "male supremacy" is something of a necessity, quite dictated by nature itself. No form of govt existing, can stop the rich from ruling from the top, and only vain dreamers think mankind is capable of some sort of cooperative arrangement of economics on a "multicultural "grand scale. Rich vs. poor is here to stay till kingdom come.
@@LauraFlandersAndFriends Just watched 2 minutes. 2 minutes and i know what this whole liberal bs is about. What do you think of our economy now?!?!? hahahahhahahaaa WRONG!!!!!!
Completely disagree as soon as I heard workers should have these exam rights as the owners which makes no sense workers don't lose anything if the company goes bankrupt
@@joshuaoverlord5327 Workers lose their jobs. And when workers lose their jobs they have the possibility of going homeless, when the capitalist loses their job the worst risk they face is becoming a worker themselves - and of course they don't want to become a worker, they know how horrible it is!
@@TheHeadlets who loses more a worker who could get a new job or a person who probably send half his life his money and taking debt to start a business and have to pay off that debt after the business is shut down
@@joshuaoverlord5327 "Half of their money" of which the business owner has plentiful and the worker has none. Cry me a river. Workers also have much larger debts relative to their income (car, education, loans, etc.) than any business owner do, and the money that the business owner is losing is EXTRA money that they don't need to survive like the workers do, hence why it is called capital.
6:56 This is where we live. We may postulate, pontificate and deliberate (as Cornel might say) online, with one another but Monday morning we face the fact we no longer have much if any say in our own places of employment.
Tom Samad Well, the disintegration has been gradual, and it appears reversing it (if we intend to hang on to the power structure as it sits) will take just as long. What would you rather see happen?
pjamesbda Exactly,I'm astounded that a system (corporate capitalism) that has plunged the world into two great depressions is allowed to continue unchecked. Democracy was hijacked by corporate capitalism long ago and wealth now trumps democracy. Are the politicians asleep on the job or just puppets of the corporations? Democracy was put in place to protect the masses from the excesses via the ballot box. For that reason, corporate capitalists fall over themselves to finance politicians and 'buy' elections. They fear true democracy like the plague.
pigofapilot1 Absolutely - - redistricting and voter requirements are some other tools. But as you point out, by far and away the most effective tool is the "futility factor". Creating a atmosphere of utter futility drives people into a sense of despair. And then, they just give up. That is, after a fashion the first step. We absolutely DO need to "give up" on a failed system model. And instead of this idea of fixing it (which by the way, is another tool - remember the conserv. base saying the ACA just needed "fixing") - we need to throw out for profit health care, public utilities and all the other infrastructure issues we've already F'ing well paid for 2 or 3 times over. We need to understand we have rights; to work, to have clean shelter we can afford, health car and descent nutrition. These are non-negotiable...period.
We in the U.S. have been left in the dark about the qualities of democratic socialism. The grade school and university curricula are set by the 1% to make sure that we do not understand what is happening to us in the workplace and why. Capitalism succeeded in the 1950s only because we were untouched by the war. The breakdown of capitalism's promise for a reasonably stable and reliable life style has disappeared for the majority of workers.
What are you talking about? Capitalism succeeded because it passes the cooperation and allocation test, two things socialism does not. and the nordic countries aren't democratic socialist.
This is a talk-lecture that needs to go "viral." It needs hearing everywhere now that we're approaching the November election. Too many conservatives out there are so complacent and ignorant (hence afraid of change) and led along everyday by FOX & friends. Richard Wolff was on FOX recently and they basically laughed at him, called him "comrade," made predictable references to Trotsky and Lenin, etc. It's a thick wall of ignorance we need to crack if there's going to be any reform in this country.
An old WWII vet described communism as when the government owns the factory. Capitalism was described as when the factory owns the government. Both economic systems, in their extreme are flawed. A hybrid economic system is needed, applying the good of each system without the negatives.
I worked at a great hospital, great benefits and fair and hardworking staff. I worked there 28 years. Around 2 years It turned into a living hell for me and a lot of people. Many support staff Ilaid off or fired. My hours were cut drastically and for 15 months i didn’t know if I working every single day. The worst part was I had no say in what happened to me . The administration didn’t care about my financial stress or time. I hated every single minute there. Retired early and have never been happier
LAURA FLANDERS, Bravo! I first heard you moderate an esrly shiow of yours. Since then, I am so proud to see and hear you . The two men you host here today both posses fierce and priceless transcendental intutive miinds. You hold the same space wihout apparent effort and with equal creative expression and insight. It is thrilling, you, you are a thrilling inspiration.
Who the hell has been hiding Dr. Cornel West from me? He's amazing. And I've long felt the same about Wolff. Great interview w/ 2 of my favorite minds.
Good shows, your guests are some of the best to dissect the issues of inequality and other ills of capitalism. How about having representatives of the 1st Nations people of this western hemisphere on your show. I can suggest at least two John Trudell and Oren Lyons, we indigenous folk have a unique and relevant perspective on the evolution of this euro-centric disaster that has us all concerned about the fate of our world because of the culture of "me" that has attempted to replace our beautiful "we" based indigenous cultures. Thanks for a great channel
+Hiloha'homa Thank you so much for those suggestions! We'll definitely look in to them. We're dedicated to bringing marginalized voices on the show, so thank you for sharing! Have you seen our episode with Idle No More? They discuss that "we" based culture as it relates to the environment! Thanks for watching! ua-cam.com/video/pKHwBfyon-0/v-deo.html
Can I just say: I love these people. I really hope Bernie will include them in his cabinet. Such wisdom, intellectual, spiritual and emotional wisdom. No weasel talk EVER. I love these people.
What are you talking about? Wisdom? Intellect? I could give 3 Marx quotes that prove he was a train wreck. And two of three daughters of Marx committed suicide. He said "the last capitalist we will hang will be the one that sold us the rope". Thats who these two clowns revere? C'mon.... There is no legitimate argument that Marx is sometime of social expert... If anything, the people who followed Marx and got into power killed millions following EXACTLY what Marx prescribed. Beyond pathetic.
Googily Moogily Because Marx said “the last capitalist we hang will be the one that sold us the rope” , because he called for overthrowing society by force rather than peacefully creating ESOPs and competing with capitalism. Marxism is Evil to the core and he ran his personal life as a selfish , evil bully. To see people cherry pick this animals quotes and to pretend Marxism is legit is a danger. Millions died trying to follow Marxs exact words of force. Don’t tell me that Mau, Stalin, Pol Pot or Lenin did it wrong. Marx was the Charlie Manson of economics.
Soviets without Bolsheviks. That's the Kronstadt Rebellion. That's the council communism of Gorter and Pannekoek and others. That's very much tradition that we're a part of.
Thank You, Love your show Laura Flanders!!! Laura, you nail the Socratic form of truth, tough to do these days. Thank you Cornell West, a great man to use intellect in such a spiritual way. My brother much love to you sir. Much love to all life, priceless in every miraculous way. Thank you Richard Wolff!!! Amazing your Ivy League education used to present a simple, logical, truthful, education about the pure evil of Capitalism. Thank You all, much love to all!!!
@@danielmadeson311 Socialist economists are rare, because socialism has failed many times, and still cannot solve the cooperation and allocation problems.
Thomas Rosati It depends on what form of socialism each country uses. There’s communism, plain socialism, authoritarian socialism, democratic socialism and social democracy. I’m sure there are more versions but those are the ones I know. FWI, they do not mean the same thing. Also, your half right in that some countries have failed with socialism like Cuba and yes Venezuela (though that country has other problems too) but others like Sweden, Denmark, France, and Scandinavia are doing well with it as well.
As a black man and particularly a jazz musicien, What dr. West side is true! .......... As people we are very individual and very democratic! I have seen this in New Orleans my whole life!
Too bad parallels drawn between the arts and political culture go right over the heads of most viewers who are commenting by saying things like "Thank our Lord Jesus Christ for raising up Ronald Reagan to defeat communism"...
I have so much respect for both of these guests and I almost didn't believe it when I saw them interviewed together. Thanks for arranging it. I was still amazed to see that the two of these great intellectuals speak better together than separately. Thoroughly enjoyable.
This was a much more simple and joyful explanation of Marxism than a lot of the discussions I have heard. I always say pearls drop from the mouth of Cornell West and almost always Professor Wolff is right on the mark. How I loved this discussion.
I feel so indescribably dissapointed when I watch countless great conversations that have already taken place well enough in the past that our societies could have already used as maps & blueprint inspirations to form a better way for all
Being called the N word by a Communist is no better than being called that by a Capitalist. Your system can offer us two things that we need and want:enjoyment of labor and enjoyment in child birth, to date in my experience you offer neither. Do not try to camouflage your Imperialism, NeoColonialism nor Zionism as some panacea for the social and economic injustice of the past centuries. We want family integrity and peace not chaos and drama. The Socialist agenda that we understand can only be understood by those that do the work.
(10:50-11:07) Individualism versus Individuality. Individualism: divide and conquer through commodification of humanity. Individuality: personal self-actualization and democratic affinity solidarity.
Lenin was way more than just good ideas. He was a profound Marxist theoretician, both in the broader sense, but especially in the dialectics between theory, practice and organisation. He was unmatched in understanding the development of Russian society and what needed to be done. Unfortunately, The civil war, which was armed and defended by the strongest imperialist powers of the time, the destruction of most Bolshevik cadres and the dispersal of the remaining ones, famine, demoralisation, Stalin’s degeneration and struggle against the party’s revolutionary wing, Lenin’s incapacitation and eventual death, opening it up to just anyone and and murder, underdevelopment and mass social and economic dislocation caused by 7 years of war. There is so much unjustly blamed on Lenin and much of his work was either destroyed, misunderstood or distorted by the Stalinist counterrevolution. It’s incumbent on all revolutionaries to read, re-read and properly understand his works.
West and Wolff, what a pairing! Great conversation. This showed in my reccs probably bc of Wolff, but I've watched some Cornel West clips recently too. Anyway I'll be checking out more on this channel.
Great interview, brilliant duo to interview, however I think it could be improved by slowing the pace a fair bit, especially with two interviewees with so much wisdom to share. Felt like too often they were only just getting started answering the questions before the subject was changed or a new question was asked. Trying to have a short-form interview with just one of these guys is never good enough; short-form with both of them at once?! It’ll never be enough! This coulda been extended to a 2-3 hour long-form discussion & still every minute would be golden. Anyway, glad to have found this channel. Very interesting content, I hope to see you thriving and succeeding!
Problem with collective decision making is nothing ever happens and everything ends up in chaos. Leadership is the rarest quality and collective mentality discourages it. And that's the worst recipe for entrepreneurship. The real problem is the screwed banking / political system and a selected few steamrolling their way through all law and legislation all over the world. It''s global but originating in USA and Europe. This is a power shift from the west to the east. I never seen Richard addressing the real problem head on. I wonder why.
Socialism and Communism are not about control; that idea is spread by capitalists who are ignorant about how Socialism and Communism would function. Socialism and Communism are the most democratic systems by design.
Socialism was OK for bailing the banks, but they keep you on the hamster wheel they turn the screws tighter when they are scared. Austerity for us . When we rise, we rise as one. 🇵🇸🇱🇧🏴☠️🏴🇮🇪🇯🇲 we all have a part to play . All our revolutionary fighters from non violence ELZN, we learn tactics of FLN , PIRA .ALL REVOLUTIONARYS WE SEE THEM NOW . CIA / FEDS in court hopefully brother malcolm gets some justice. Leonard peltier gets first parole hearing, 10th June '24.
Thank you very much for this beautifully moderated discission Laura Flanders. You are an incredible journalist and I am glad you brought on such wonderful guests.
Looked up Vimala’s Curry-blossom Cafe, found it on Google Maps. The photos of the menu and the place are mouth watering. Lovely people, I’m sure. Too bad it’s 750 miles away from me..
@charles botha two points... 1... you can choose to try and diminish the truth or significance of Cornel West's statements by tying them to his price per lecture fee, but do you think that's a valid argument? And if you say yes why? Link- backed only. 2... where the f*** do you get off making a statement that Cornel West does sleep with women, when you have nothing to back up the claim. That is straightforward slander. It makes one seriously question if you have anything honest or sincere or factual to offer. Right? You have to dig for it, but if you are willing and courageous to ask the many why questions behind why the different kinds of Injustice exists in our world, I invite you to explore them.
@@brianlacy8870 I wonder why Socialist are not funding the Democratic enterprises they want to see in the world, instead of banning capitalist ones. A clue to why, is that probably not even them think they can compete with capitalist ones.
10:54 “But again I draw a distinction between individuality and individualism-because see *individualism* tilts in the Capitalist direction, _individuality_ radical democratic levelers... Marx” -Cornel West
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So you’re deleting my comments…you’re a nasty censor? Why do you have to be such a typical leftist? What are you afraid of?
Wolff and West Vs Capitalism is the buddy movie we need
starsky and hutch. I bet that both are great fun in a pub after some beers
I’d definitely watch that.
And one of them has to say "I'm too old for this shit" at least once during the movie.
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For the price of an Internet service, I have a front row seat in the greatest classroom with my two favorite professors. I'm not so worried about the decline of "education."
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+Jack Saturday Capitalism brought you this free 'education'.
jon smith
Thanks to a slippery adherence to the First Amendment of the US Constitution, you can find gems among the devastations of Capitalist aggression domestic and foreign, the trillions stolen in banking fraud, the global ecological horrors, the toxic plastic dog shit of corporate media, the lying of "leaders," the human PTSD, the overcrowded prisons, the torture, the grueling poverty, the precarious wage-slavery, the dumbing down of millions in schools, and the horrific debt of young adults for useless degrees at the top end of that dumbing down - but you have to find them yourself.
That's an incredibly interesting list of government programs, but I fail to see what it has to do with capitalistic trade. I'm glad you're able to express your ideas to the world in this forum though; arguably the most open and free market in human history.
Brilliant to distinguish individualism from individuality. Socialism is based on individuality to participate in democracy. Capitalism uses individualism as a dogma to undercut cooperation and social values.
Capitalism uses the imagery and language of individualism to sell their shitty system to gullible people.
How can you "undercut cooperation" by allowing people to make their own choices?
@@phillyphilosopher1 Because the dominant culture tells us that we must be independent, stand on our own two feet, and you are morally deficient if you need to depend on others for your well-being. This makes people under capitalism "just deal with it" instead of looking to cooperate with others to improve their position and their community's position
@@defro125 I disagree. There's no better VOLUNTARY cooperation than Capitalism. People spontaneously work together everyday. Shit, I'm at work as we speak 😂
@@phillyphilosopher1 Voluntary? The majority of workers in the US have jobs that they do not enjoy but must take in order to survive. That isn't freedom. Most people do not have the economic freedom to not work for a period of time to find a job that would be more fulfilling or to try to build their own company.
If I had one wish, I'd like to see Dr. West as number 46. But in reality I'm voting for the person Dr. West supports in the 2020 primary, Senator Bernie Sanders.
Bernie has always advocated for workplace democracy, it seems!
Paradise Care Services You mean the same Berney who just got an education on economics? Berney who is NOW paying his campaign workers 15 an hour but said he now is limiting their hours cause of said raise? LMAO! Can’t hide from math!!
@@SuperDeathunder Aaaand I just found out they didn't "cut hours", it was more like "please don't work overtime until we reach an agreement with the union". MSM has used this simple thing to make a *massive* smear hit piece.
Right wing media are lying POS
@@SuperDeathunder Lol...check out the facts. Kulinsky breaks it down so even Faux Noise deplorables MAY be able to "do the math"...😂👍
Alberto T. I’ll keep an eye on it! Fox interview with Berney says everything. They said your a millionaire why don’t u give your wealth away? His response? Why don’t u give your wealth away? She said I’m not the one advocating for it you are. Berney said well anyone can write a best selling book and they can do what they want with the money. Like a true socialist everyone BUT him should participate. Like Obama Care. It’s good for everyone but congress passed a special bill exempting government from having to take on Obama care. Good for us! NOT for them! Open your eyes
I lived in Europe for over twenty years and everyone knows Marx. The have powerful unions, know how to mobilize and organize, and they think critically. They make and remake parties of all stripes. They also have various forms of the 'right', various 'conservatisms'. In the US, capitalism IS politics -and even religion.
Uhm, it's the exact same in Europe.
@@SJO897 please amplify your answer
R2D2 SL Every major party in Europe puts capital before people. That’s kinda the sole purpose of European politics and western politics in general. Not much else to say
@@SJO897 certainly, but I think they differ in form and intensity (in relation to the United States, obviously). Conservatism in the United States makes an amalgam between capitalism and Christianity like in no other country. without animating to sound coarse I have seen expressions like: "Jesus is republican, therefore he is a defender of the capitalist free market"
It's absolutely true that ideas about economics in the USA are essentially similar to religious dogma that, if questioned, lead to anger, shunning and potentially violent repression.
Thank goodness for a handful of sane, intelligent individuals.
This is a great segment and I wish THIS was what our "news" reported.
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The problem is all those people discrediting academics like these two individuals. They rather listen to an influencer
It is propaganda dressed as a news show. This mess is so scripted.
"IT NOT MARXISM, IT'S HUMANITISM that HUMANITY seek"! It's Evolution we seek.
I am so impressed with both of your guests. Cornel West, though, you know he's so warm, loving, brilliant. You can feel the man's love for all human beings, his brothers and sisters. His isn't fake love, not some kind of contrived or "look at me how loving I am, I go to church on church day" love. It's for real and it's alive. I can feel it every time I hear him speak. Remarkable.
Dr. West and Dr. Wolff, a formidable intellectual duo.
They so well read .u listen to them pull information from a thousand different books in just a few sentences. Thats says alot
Oh man if I could have my dream dinner party of anyone living or dead, these two would definitely be on the guest list.
they are pseudo-intellectuals who speak in superlative jargon.
hardly, both are idiots
Thank you, Laura Flanders. You are a beacon of critical thinking
Is that why she invites two Marxists on the show rather than two opposing view?
Thanks for watching! :)
+rumco
I noticed that stroke of genius! 2 Marxists of a feather flow together like cream in the coffee...yum.
I'm afraid, btw, that to a certain degree, "male supremacy" is something of a necessity, quite dictated by nature itself.
No form of govt existing, can stop the rich from ruling from the top, and only vain dreamers think mankind is capable of some sort of cooperative arrangement of economics on a "multicultural "grand scale. Rich vs. poor is here to stay till kingdom come.
@@LauraFlandersAndFriends Just watched 2 minutes. 2 minutes and i know what this whole liberal bs is about. What do you think of our economy now?!?!? hahahahhahahaaa WRONG!!!!!!
"Critical Thinking"... that's what lands you unemployed in your parent's basement blaming everyone else for your laziness.
Thanks for doing these interviews, Ms. Flanders.
What a full of shit
Both of these guys together. What a combo! WOW! Excellent discussion with points made. West's eloquence is captivating. Love the man's style!
Yeah, I've only recently discovered him, such a pleasure listening to him!
Completely disagree as soon as I heard workers should have these exam rights as the owners which makes no sense workers don't lose anything if the company goes bankrupt
@@joshuaoverlord5327 Workers lose their jobs. And when workers lose their jobs they have the possibility of going homeless, when the capitalist loses their job the worst risk they face is becoming a worker themselves - and of course they don't want to become a worker, they know how horrible it is!
@@TheHeadlets who loses more a worker who could get a new job or a person who probably send half his life his money and taking debt to start a business and have to pay off that debt after the business is shut down
@@joshuaoverlord5327 "Half of their money" of which the business owner has plentiful and the worker has none. Cry me a river. Workers also have much larger debts relative to their income (car, education, loans, etc.) than any business owner do, and the money that the business owner is losing is EXTRA money that they don't need to survive like the workers do, hence why it is called capital.
6:56 This is where we live. We may postulate, pontificate and deliberate (as Cornel might say) online, with one another but Monday morning we face the fact we no longer have much if any say in our own places of employment.
Exactly - but it need not be that way for the rest of our lives.
Tom Samad
Well, the disintegration has been gradual, and it appears reversing it (if we intend to hang on to the power structure as it sits) will take just as long. What would you rather see happen?
pjamesbda Exactly,I'm astounded that a system (corporate capitalism) that has plunged the world into two great depressions is allowed to continue unchecked. Democracy was hijacked by corporate capitalism long ago and wealth now trumps democracy. Are the politicians asleep on the job or just puppets of the corporations? Democracy was put in place to protect the masses from the excesses via the ballot box. For that reason, corporate capitalists fall over themselves to finance politicians and 'buy' elections. They fear true democracy like the plague.
pigofapilot1
Absolutely - - redistricting and voter requirements are some other tools. But as you point out, by far and away the most effective tool is the "futility factor". Creating a atmosphere of utter futility drives people into a sense of despair. And then, they just give up.
That is, after a fashion the first step. We absolutely DO need to "give up" on a failed system model. And instead of this idea of fixing it (which by the way, is another tool - remember the conserv. base saying the ACA just needed "fixing") - we need to throw out for profit health care, public utilities and all the other infrastructure issues we've already F'ing well paid for 2 or 3 times over.
We need to understand we have rights; to work, to have clean shelter we can afford, health car and descent nutrition. These are non-negotiable...period.
I love listening to these guys Richard Wolf knows how to communicate things in s easy manner.
We in the U.S. have been left in the dark about the qualities of democratic socialism. The grade school and university curricula are set by the 1% to make sure that we do not understand what is happening to us in the workplace and why. Capitalism succeeded in the 1950s only because we were untouched by the war. The breakdown of capitalism's promise for a reasonably stable and reliable life style has disappeared for the majority of workers.
steve davis damn right
american academia is dominated by socialist
What are you talking about? Capitalism succeeded because it passes the cooperation and allocation test, two things socialism does not. and the nordic countries aren't democratic socialist.
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God to see Laura's again.
Cornell West is a national treasure. Prof Wolff too.
This is a talk-lecture that needs to go "viral." It needs hearing everywhere now that we're approaching the November election. Too many conservatives out there are so complacent and ignorant (hence afraid of change) and led along everyday by FOX & friends. Richard Wolff was on FOX recently and they basically laughed at him, called him "comrade," made predictable references to Trotsky and Lenin, etc. It's a thick wall of ignorance we need to crack if there's going to be any reform in this country.
It seems only just to make fun of people still thinking marxism works lol
An old WWII vet described communism as when the government owns the factory. Capitalism was described as when the factory owns the government. Both economic systems, in their extreme are flawed. A hybrid economic system is needed, applying the good of each system without the negatives.
the video needs to be boosted in the UA-cam algorithm - not sure what's the most effective way to do that but sharing it in 2023 can't hurt !
Maybe we'll get our chance now.
few things in life are as delightful, as seeing Cornel West and Richard Wolff hugging each other!
This gives my brain goosebumps.
Only if you have a brain.
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@@dietmarbitterlich3500 right otherwise you could not possibly feel your IQ dropping by watching this
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Prof. Wolff was my economics teacher in college and he was AMAZING! So engaging interesting and knowledgeable!
i can’t imagine hearing this man speak everyday. PROFOUND. this video explained so much to me and i am grateful
Wolff looks like he has a crush. haha Love him and West!
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Both demonstrate a 'crush on humanism.
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It’s just a lovely respect they have for each other.
Both of them look at eachother and laugh like they are in love.
It's wonderful to watch people this smart enjoy hashing it out together.
Great feeling
Both of them look so happy to be there. It's just wholesome vibes.
I worked at a great hospital, great benefits and fair and hardworking staff. I worked there 28 years. Around 2 years It turned into a living hell for me and a lot of people. Many support staff Ilaid off or fired. My hours were cut drastically and for 15 months i didn’t know if I working every single day. The worst part was I had no say in what happened to me . The administration didn’t care about my financial stress or time. I hated every single minute there. Retired early and have never been happier
Two of my favourite humans in the one place , time for some truth ! !
LAURA FLANDERS, Bravo! I first heard you moderate an esrly shiow of yours. Since then, I am so proud to see and hear you . The two men you host here today both posses fierce and priceless transcendental intutive miinds. You hold the same space wihout apparent effort and with equal creative expression and insight. It is thrilling, you, you are a thrilling inspiration.
Thanks for watching!
These two are my favorite socialist professors, thank you for the upload!
Who the hell has been hiding Dr. Cornel West from me? He's amazing. And I've long felt the same about Wolff. Great interview w/ 2 of my favorite minds.
if you want to help him in 2023, or just keep this informative watchable video alive - share it again now !
I 💘 Prof.West and now am a fan of Dr.Wolfe.THANK YOU GENTLEMAN.THAT IS THE WAY MEN USED TO BE. I TRULY MISS THEM
Wolf has a UA-cam channel talking about events and ideas day to day. It's crowd funded and let's him reach a much larger audience.
Dr. West and Dr Wolff --Two brilliant American Professors...What a treat!!!
So happy to have found your program! Thanks for this!
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Good shows, your guests are some of the best to dissect the issues of inequality and other ills of capitalism. How about having representatives of the 1st Nations people of this western hemisphere on your show. I can suggest at least two John Trudell and Oren Lyons, we indigenous folk have a unique and relevant perspective on the evolution of this euro-centric disaster that has us all concerned about the fate of our world because of the culture of "me" that has attempted to replace our beautiful "we" based indigenous cultures. Thanks for a great channel
+Hiloha'homa Thank you so much for those suggestions! We'll definitely look in to them. We're dedicated to bringing marginalized voices on the show, so thank you for sharing! Have you seen our episode with Idle No More? They discuss that "we" based culture as it relates to the environment! Thanks for watching!
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Wow! I'm a big fan of Cornel West. I'm new to Wolff. I enjoyed and am inspired by this conversation!
Can I just say: I love these people. I really hope Bernie will include them in his cabinet. Such wisdom, intellectual, spiritual and emotional wisdom. No weasel talk EVER. I love these people.
What are you talking about? Wisdom? Intellect? I could give 3 Marx quotes that prove he was a train wreck. And two of three daughters of Marx committed suicide. He said "the last capitalist we will hang will be the one that sold us the rope". Thats who these two clowns revere? C'mon.... There is no legitimate argument that Marx is sometime of social expert... If anything, the people who followed Marx and got into power killed millions following EXACTLY what Marx prescribed. Beyond pathetic.
@@BBQcheese I believe you.
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If you'd lay off the cool Ade you would make such a blaring, ignorant fool of yourself.
Wise up, get some actual fucking LEARNING.
Typo; >>wouldn't
Googily Moogily Because Marx said “the last capitalist we hang will be the one that sold us the rope” , because he called for overthrowing society by force rather than peacefully creating ESOPs and competing with capitalism. Marxism is Evil to the core and he ran his personal life as a selfish , evil bully. To see people cherry pick this animals quotes and to pretend Marxism is legit is a danger. Millions died trying to follow Marxs exact words of force. Don’t tell me that Mau, Stalin, Pol Pot or Lenin did it wrong. Marx was the Charlie Manson of economics.
Two of the greatest public intellectuals! Thanks, Laura.
Soviets without Bolsheviks. That's the Kronstadt Rebellion. That's the council communism of Gorter and Pannekoek and others. That's very much tradition that we're a part of.
Yay, The Laura Flanders Show is restoring my faith in humanity haha.
Thank You, Love your show Laura Flanders!!! Laura, you nail the Socratic form of truth, tough to do these days.
Thank you Cornell West, a great man to use intellect in such a spiritual way. My brother much love to you sir. Much love to all life, priceless in every miraculous way.
Thank you Richard Wolff!!! Amazing your Ivy League education used to present a simple, logical, truthful, education about the pure evil of Capitalism.
Thank You all, much love to all!!!
We're so glad you enjoy the show!
This is the conversation the majority of humanity need to hear and demand of the political corporate, Oligarchy and Media elites.
Thank you for watching!
10:53 That look on Richard Wolff's face when Cornel West drops a bunker-busting truth bomb.
Two of my favorite thinkers: Wolff and West...
Thanks for watching!
Dr. West very well spoken. They both are brilliant
Two of the greatest minds of our time.
It's not just the minds, but the courage to explore ideas.
Lmao Wolff Is a clown, there is a reason there are no socialist economists that are prominent.
Thomas Rosati Care to explain?
@@danielmadeson311 Socialist economists are rare, because socialism has failed many times, and still cannot solve the cooperation and allocation problems.
Thomas Rosati It depends on what form of socialism each country uses. There’s communism, plain socialism, authoritarian socialism, democratic socialism and social democracy. I’m sure there are more versions but those are the ones I know. FWI, they do not mean the same thing. Also, your half right in that some countries have failed with socialism like Cuba and yes Venezuela (though that country has other problems too) but others like Sweden, Denmark, France, and Scandinavia are doing well with it as well.
As a black man and particularly a jazz musicien, What dr. West side is true! .......... As people we are very individual and very democratic! I have seen this in New Orleans my whole life!
Interesting reference to parallel individualism and cooperation with jazz. :)
Too bad parallels drawn between the arts and political culture go right over the heads of most viewers who are commenting by saying things like "Thank our Lord Jesus Christ for raising up Ronald Reagan to defeat communism"...
##Richard ##Wolff it is so nice to hear someone tell the truth in this field PEACE and ONE LOVE to ALL
13:35 Powerful and most insightful, Dr.West drops the wisdom bomb. Real news from 2 of the most brilliant minds.
Always when these brilliant minds speak I get goosebumps.
I have so much respect for both of these guests and I almost didn't believe it when I saw them interviewed together. Thanks for arranging it. I was still amazed to see that the two of these great intellectuals speak better together than separately. Thoroughly enjoyable.
Here from Cornell and Richard. Good show - the people need much more of this versus 99% of the other tripe we get fed.
holy shit i looked up where vimalas is and its walking distance from my house... i am blessed!
Why on earth am I just finding this video now?! What a great conversation how I would Love to be in the room!:)
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This was a much more simple and joyful explanation of Marxism than a lot of the discussions I have heard. I always say pearls drop from the mouth of Cornell West and almost always Professor Wolff is right on the mark. How I loved this discussion.
This conversation is so relevant and important right now
Laura Flanders, thank you for bringing these two intellectual giants together on You Tube. Also, thanks for asking them relevant questions!
Dr.Cornel west is awesome! I love his insight.
I feel so indescribably dissapointed when I watch countless great conversations that have already taken place well enough in the past that our societies could have already used as maps & blueprint inspirations to form a better way for all
Because ultimately it is little more than sophistication if you dont formulate a working model and then act on it
Thank you for doing this so open mindedly and professionally!
I could listen to Cornell all day 😎✌️
Mr. West may have been a little stoned for this one. He's a groovy dude.
Being called the N word by a Communist is no better than being called that by a Capitalist. Your system can offer us two things that we need and want:enjoyment of labor and enjoyment in child birth, to date in my experience you offer neither.
Do not try to camouflage your Imperialism, NeoColonialism nor Zionism as some panacea for the social and economic injustice of the past centuries. We want family integrity and peace not chaos and drama.
The Socialist agenda that we understand can only be understood by those that do the work.
I would so love to have these two back on the show to get a more recent update on the rise of socialism and the American left being sparked.
I prefer to call it the fall of this version of capitalism.
Great conversation. Very well done interview with two brilliant minds
(10:50-11:07) Individualism versus Individuality.
Individualism: divide and conquer through commodification of humanity.
Individuality: personal self-actualization and democratic affinity solidarity.
wonderment of unique
Instant subscription. Thanks for this excellent interview.
this is fantastic, thank you for this
This show feels like it is straight out of the 70's. 🖤
Great insight from to brilliant and distinguished individuals.
Where has this channel been all my life?
greed destroys all systems :)-
my comment compared to yours:you deserve more money::))-I find it interesting thanks:)
What do you think happens to Socialist systems then? 😂
@@johnjackson9767 Same thing. No system has ever been able to check the inherent greed of humanity.
Should be no greed in socialism
@Mariano Castellano Socialism is terrible lmao
Love Professor Wolf and West we’re lucky and privileged to hear they’re brilliance.
Lenin was way more than just good ideas. He was a profound Marxist theoretician, both in the broader sense, but especially in the dialectics between theory, practice and organisation. He was unmatched in understanding the development of Russian society and what needed to be done. Unfortunately, The civil war, which was armed and defended by the strongest imperialist powers of the time, the destruction of most Bolshevik cadres and the dispersal of the remaining ones, famine, demoralisation, Stalin’s degeneration and struggle against the party’s revolutionary wing, Lenin’s incapacitation and eventual death, opening it up to just anyone and and murder, underdevelopment and mass social and economic dislocation caused by 7 years of war.
There is so much unjustly blamed on Lenin and much of his work was either destroyed, misunderstood or distorted by the Stalinist counterrevolution. It’s incumbent on all revolutionaries to read, re-read and properly understand his works.
Thanks Scott, I'll look into it.
West and Wolff, what a pairing! Great conversation. This showed in my reccs probably bc of Wolff, but I've watched some Cornel West clips recently too. Anyway I'll be checking out more on this channel.
I enjoyed this whole show. Thank you.
West/Wolff 2024! 💚
what an intriguing pair. Awesome!
Who is watching this in 2020 and feeling like this is it.
More wisdom in that room than any other ever!
Bring these two Giants together again.
coool C. West and Wolff my favorites
Good show thank you brothers, and sister.
like this channel . well reporting .good work.
Great interview, brilliant duo to interview, however I think it could be improved by slowing the pace a fair bit, especially with two interviewees with so much wisdom to share. Felt like too often they were only just getting started answering the questions before the subject was changed or a new question was asked. Trying to have a short-form interview with just one of these guys is never good enough; short-form with both of them at once?! It’ll never be enough! This coulda been extended to a 2-3 hour long-form discussion & still every minute would be golden.
Anyway, glad to have found this channel. Very interesting content, I hope to see you thriving and succeeding!
I agree and wonder if the shorter format is attract the people with the short attention spans? I could listen to these men every day.
Great story about the curryblosssom cafe !! I wish them great success with the project !!
couldnt be more relevant today!!!
So true! Thank you for watching.
Problem with collective decision making is nothing ever happens and everything ends up in chaos. Leadership is the rarest quality and collective mentality discourages it. And that's the worst recipe for entrepreneurship.
The real problem is the screwed banking / political system and a selected few steamrolling their way through all law and legislation all over the world. It''s global but originating in USA and Europe.
This is a power shift from the west to the east. I never seen Richard addressing the real problem head on. I wonder why.
Two great men right together I like listening to both of them.
Socialism and Communism are not about control; that idea is spread by capitalists who are ignorant about how Socialism and Communism would function. Socialism and Communism are the most democratic systems by design.
Socialism was OK for bailing the banks, but they keep you on the hamster wheel they turn the screws tighter when they are scared. Austerity for us . When we rise, we rise as one. 🇵🇸🇱🇧🏴☠️🏴🇮🇪🇯🇲 we all have a part to play . All our revolutionary fighters from non violence ELZN, we learn tactics of FLN , PIRA .ALL REVOLUTIONARYS WE SEE THEM NOW . CIA / FEDS in court hopefully brother malcolm gets some justice. Leonard peltier gets first parole hearing, 10th June '24.
Damn, I love these two. Great interview.
Whoa...you've been doing this since 2015? And you were giving Wolff and West a platform? Subscribed for sure.
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Thank you very much for this beautifully moderated discission Laura Flanders. You are an incredible journalist and I am glad you brought on such wonderful guests.
Cornel West amen brother
Looked up Vimala’s Curry-blossom Cafe, found it on Google Maps. The photos of the menu and the place are mouth watering. Lovely people, I’m sure. Too bad it’s 750 miles away from me..
cornel looks a bit ill. I hope he is okay. I know he was diagnosed with cancer awhile ago but I believed that he was still in remission.
Curb your unsubstantiated slander @charles botha!!
@charles botha two points...
1... you can choose to try and diminish the truth or significance of Cornel West's statements by tying them to his price per lecture fee, but do you think that's a valid argument? And if you say yes why? Link- backed only.
2... where the f*** do you get off making a statement that Cornel West does sleep with women, when you have nothing to back up the claim. That is straightforward slander.
It makes one seriously question if you have anything honest or sincere or factual to offer. Right?
You have to dig for it, but if you are willing and courageous to ask the many why questions behind why the different kinds of Injustice exists in our world, I invite you to explore them.
@charles botha egs off giving poc wide pass/vilify whites also needed....
@@brianlacy8870 I wonder why Socialist are not funding the Democratic enterprises they want to see in the world, instead of banning capitalist ones. A clue to why, is that probably not even them think they can compete with capitalist ones.
I think I have an concussion from all that knowledge Dr. West and Dr. Wolf just dropped on my head
10:54 “But again I draw a distinction between individuality and individualism-because see *individualism* tilts in the Capitalist direction, _individuality_ radical democratic levelers... Marx”
-Cornel West
Boom! There's two of my top 5 dinner party guests of all time, right there...
Two of the sanest cats on Earth
This interview itself feels like jazz- West always brings a flair to academic communication that is rhetorically SO powerful.