Volkswagen ID.7 - Have Wolfsburg finally cracked it?
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- The new Volkswagen ID.7 has a lot to prove. The Wolfsburg car maker hasn't exactly set our pulses racing with their electric offering so far, save for the fairly niche ID.Buzz. A drop in quality, lacklustre style and technology that felt way off the pace of it's rivals has sent them back to rethink their EV models. And the new ID.7 cannot afford to get it wrong as every car it will compete with in this class of EV is a talent in it's own right. So can this, the new ID flagship finally put VW back in front of the electric mobility race? The only way to find out was to subject the car to the full AutoEV road test here in the UK. After all, its the road test that actual car buyers trust when it comes to delivering the verdict on their next choice of electric vehicle.
AutoEV - all electric, all independent.
0:00 - Introduction
01:09 - Titles
01:16 - Meet the car
04:24 - Styling
09:47 - Practicality
13:32 - Interior
24:26 - Usability
25:34 - Performance & Handling
37:41 - Pricing
38:28 - Competition
39:24 - Pros & Cons
40:10 - Summary
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Great editing there - audio levels spot on at scene switch ! Deadly! Also, Chris, over on Battery Life, seems quite pleased with his new ID7. Having had an early ID3 for the last few years.
Hey, nice and calm review! Thank you!
I think you got that info about CarPlay and Android Auto wrong. It is wireless via Bluetooth since the ID.3 and it is as well in the ID.7. The window heating can also be found in the Clima menu additionally to the buttons on the right side of the steering wheel. 😊
I love the idea of the window switches. I often open the back windows when I want to open the front windows.
To be fair, while a bit silly, the VW back window solution pales in comparison to the Tesla indicating solution. I've been driving an ID3 with kids in the back for 2 years and it works alright basically, it's a small thing. (I have assumed you were being sarcastic! )
@@simondehaas8784 No I'm not sarcastic. This discussion on those window switches in car reviews is so dumb.
How often do you want to open the back windows in the front seat? It is no issue at all.
The new Tesla interface (no stalks) is one of the reasons why my next car will no longer be a model 3 but probably an ID.7 or EQE.
Finally someone who gets it! I don't understand these 'car reviewers' that keep ranting about these switches... I think it's a very good solution + it's probably cost saving.
Coincidence... last night we had to stop for a 'police control' (alcohol testing). My wife opened the rear window instead of hers, she didnt even noticed at first 😂... (poor kids in the back were sleeping)
btw; she was sober of course 😇
@@deFruitbergTesla to VW ? 😂😂😂. Let us know how that works out !
@@pieter85 So for all these years everybody's been getting it wrong? From someone without any ulterior motive, its silly and cheap. Now let me tell you why.
Technology should be to make driving easier and safer. Adding additional step or steps to the driving experience does neither. That's how you know its a bad idea.
The only issue with cable storage under a shelf in the boot is if you need to get to it you have to unload the boot - That’s where front storage wins!
Looks much better than the BMW i5 saloon
Thanks, Auto EV, for another candid review. I appreciate that you are direct about the bugbears but found positives. I think VW, after stumbling out of the gate, is moving in the right direction.
Great review!
I wonder if there's gonna be a Skoda version of this car/platform
I am the owner of id4 for 3 years now,great car . I have tested id7 and noticed a big step up in materials in the new model. Waiting on delivery soon too replace current id4.Only complaint on ev' so far is tire wear and depreciation, but new prices have come down to compensate on trade in.
Thank you, were going for the ID7!
Great review, nice car seats look superb & rear one is up nice and high. It's expensive tho & no heat pump as standard for that money?? Also a frunk is a must as rooting for cables with a loaded boot is annoying & more so if they're down in the 2nd basement 😩
Very good review, thank you. We know there will be an upgrade on the stupid steering wheel buttons, on the demister buttons, I doubt those will ever change. The rear window lifter buttons, definitely need to be sorted, after all, Skoda Enyac did it on the ID4 platform. The main issue I have with your review is, that you call 6.5 seconds to 60 as slow. The Golf GTi isn't much faster! How fast do you really need to accelerate? The yanks like their drag strip, but in Europe, we don't need it. After all. This is a family/executive luxury car for wafting, not drifting!
Great review again, Bryan! My only gripe is: it would be lovely for us continental subscribers if you could at least show driving range and energy consumption in metric units.
Noted!
I very like this car, especially the lift back.
The ID range has automated brake using regeneration and it is superb!
Porsche call it InnoDrive on the Taycan and it's a very expensive option on that car so most Taycans don't have it.
Standard on the ID range.
Please do your homework.
Other motoring journalists have demonstrated this feature in their videos.
I have an ID.3 and leave it in D and enjoy the automated feature.
B comes in handy for steep downhill and also for town traffic.
Lovely looking car. Massaging seats as standard but a heat pump is optional! Rather baffling priorities.
that’s a good point sir !!
MEB platform used to have 3 levels in B mode? Not anymore in the ID7?
Great review. Actually, the panoramic roof is not electrochromic but based on liquid crystal materials in a polymer matrix (PDLC)
Frunk: maybe a tiny one for a cable would be good but I think VW's solution of shortening the bonnet to allow more space further back is way better than a longer bonnet with a rarely used frunk under it.
Re: volume, in the ID3 I find it easiest to use the steering wheel buttons for fine adjustment and the slider as an easy way to mute or make big changes to volume
Well, and here I don't agree. The frunk of my Model 3 is so usefull. Not for cable storage, but it is a safe spot to put my expensive camera gear (> 10 kEUR) or my laptop when I leave the car and don't need them. I will never leave them in the car/boot
@@deFruitberg I'm not sure it's 100% safe. If I remember correctly you can access the frunk by 'jump starting' the 12V battery (behind tow eye)?
No heat pump as standard; no one-pedal driving brake regen; no front storage. For a manufacturer that has committed itself to EVs, these seem to be curious misses.
The price looks to be at least £5k too high in the UK.
We seem to have a situation of Volkswagen, Vauxhall, Peugeot all saying that they are now considering themselves to be more in the "luxury" brand end of the market when, in reality, they are merely overpriced.
Is it the same infotainment software in ID.4 2024?
Was wondering this as well, as I'm waiting for one at the moment.
The ID.3 is class-leading, most of it's competitors have fwd.
The ID.4/5 is the most comfortable SUV in it's class.
The ID.Buzz doesn't have competitors, apart from vans based on diesel vans so have much lower range than the Buzz.
I would say VW is class leading.
It starts at around £52K and a heat pump is an option????? That's more than the Model 3 Dual-motor Long range and you don't get a heat-pump? You got a Heat Pump on a Nissan Leaf 10 years ago. Come on VW, do you REALLY want to survive in the EV market? The big battery version is going to be £60K isn't it?
Really good video, nice car, thanks ! I need to order my new car shortly (normally à polestar 2 long range single motor) ! Can I get some choice advise between these 2 models ? Thanks
If you prioritise driving enjoyment, good design, easy to use infotainment systems and you are mostly by yourself in the car, I’d go Polestar. The VW is lovely if you need the space though.
Thank you ! Yes very important for me (driving, info system, …. From the polestar 2)
Hey, we are considering replacing our Etron sportback with one of these, would you recommend or should we pay more and get a BMW i5.
I have yet to drive the i5 eDrive 40, but I have driven the M60, and the i5 was our 2023 Car of the Year. The ID.7 is a very good car, but the i5 is better in my opinion. Whether it’s worth the premium to you is something only you can decide, but if it were me, I’d be digging down the back of the sofa to find some extra coins to buy the BMW.
Thank you for watching, it’s very much appreciated.
Bit early for consideration bearing in mind I still have 2 years to run on my current company car, but it will be interesting to see if it's within the price bracket when it comes around because VW's on the whole are expensive to lease as are BMW & Polestar. But very interesting nonetheless.
29:58 - software problems in a VW EV? Surely not 😊
I think the fact he said 'ID', woke up the voice assistant...
How often do you open the rear windows? This solution is much better and prevents unintentional operation. I have experienced that two screens, and another separate control panel is distracting. Better is one large screen where you can see the vital features at a glance. Especially if this is combined with a state of the art voice control.
Good, realistic, sympathetically presented test. A pleasure to watch. It’s a good car. But not only size, the price also matters. The Tesla model 3 costs 44,000 euros so 37,500 pounds. The comparable ID7 costs Euro 61,500 + 2,300 interior package + 1,000 heat pump is a total of Euro 65,500 so 55,900 pounds. A difference of 18,400 pounds. That’s a lot of money for a massage function that the Tesla doesn’t have. But it’s not just about the purchase price. What is the car still worth after about 4 years of trade-in? Volkswagen has a good name to be value-proof. I look forward to the Tourer’s test, later this year.
@@jaapboode2719 But the Tesla lacks much, much more. Yes it has led lights but no matrix function yet. Automatic wipers on Tesla are incredibly poor. Tesla has no parking sensors, just uses Tesla vision, which is a hit and miss. The missing stalks for indicators and gear selection are also a big no for me.
The userinterface in a Tesla is not always perfect, it is a hit and miss. Thing that annoys me the most in my Tesla is that you have no way to autonomously control your adaptive cruise pilot speed. On one place I pass by regurlarly, my Tesla slows systematically down to 40 km/h (strong decelaration) on a 4 way lane where speed limit is 90 km/h, on another spot he accelerates to 120km/h even when the allowed speed over there is only 70 km/h.
@@jaapboode2719 If you compare to the M3, you should compare it to the LR version which costs +- 8000 more. M3 LR is 54k in Belgium. If you option it with paint (=expensive option on a Tesla), rims, nicer interior & enhanced autopilot (not even traffic signs included) you come at a price of 62k. That seems more apples to apples, although the M3 is the much smaller car (25cm). + you get stalks, AR head up display, lift back, ...for the same price.
Not its not. Its a terrible design and the opposite of premium. How VW could even think doing something like that of what they consider a flagship. Even worse, a prop for the hood? That type of in-your-face cost cutting is unforgivable. There are compact cars that don't show that kind of cheapness.
The ID.3 is the class leader in the C Segment.
Nice video. I do like the ID7. Biggest problem is that the ID7 launch in China (VW biggest market) has been a complete disaster. In China it costs £26,007 ($33,000), that's half the price! Got 5 stars in Euro NCAP tests. The only version available at launch is @ £55,570. Polestar 2 £10,000 cheaper, Tesla Model 3 £15,000 cheaper. I wish manufacturers would provided some physical buttons for audio, heating etc. Operating a touchscreen while driving is just bloody dangerous. Also it's longer than my Discovery 3 and a Defender 110. Only 100kg more than a 110 as well.
You can't compare the cost in China from other market. For one, they have their own automaker that's part government owned. But most important, labor cost are a lot cheaper. Therefore, prices have to be competitive to sell there.
There are Tesla Model 3s at good prices because they're ex-demo vehicles and the new Highland models are out not but if you compare prices of new vehicles, they are about the same but the leasing figures for Tesla are quite high.
I feel that the current model is an improvement over the previous one, but I have a few reservations. Firstly, the price point is not comparable to other cars like Tesla or Ioniq that you mentioned earlier, so I don't think they belong in the same class.
Secondly, there seems to be an issue with battery degradation as owners of ID3/ID4 have reported 20% wear and tear on the battery within just 2.5 years. This is a concern specific to this platform.
Lastly, I have doubts about the operating system, which I suspect will continue to cause problems despite the hardware updates they have made.
I haven't see that many problems with battery deg on ID platform yet (with >>500k sales)? Maybe someone with a faulty cell/module or faulty BMS. I've heard of some serious problems with KIA's EV6 tough...
OS 4.0 is more than just a hardware update.
Nice efficient car. Price wise it's getting into BMW i4. They would better had the ID2 coming instead of postponing that.
Poor comparison. The ID-7 is huge.
@@krane15it's not about size. It's about the market that awaits a smaller EV now. VW will lose that share to other that do, now.
We have a recently purchased Miele washer dryer at home, a high tech efficient German built machine. Although it has interesting features like a training shoe cycle, at the end of the day it cleans your laundry, period. And I feel that the ID7 is somewhat the same. Close the drivers door after a trip, and the experience is largely forgettable. The ID7 is being launched into a tough market where BEV’s all need that unique selling point, in other words, owner desirability. Apart from the corporate market, sales for the ID7 may well struggle to meet VW expectations.
Did I just see Andrew in the background there? 😅
With regard to the screen you are having to turn to use it, it should be turned towards you!
Kilometers and kilowatts on screen would be grand!
Premium car and price, but VW dealer network isn’t premium at all. Both in terms of service and look/feel.
This is not the Phaeton. The ID-7 is improved but not nearly that high.
Electric Mondeo.
It's not a saloon It's a hatchback, having said that I do like it.
True, they will introduce a saloon (station wagon in the States) later.
@@krane15Incorrect sir !!
A saloon is a Sedan !!
The American term “station wagon” is directly EQUIVALENT to a British/European “estate car”
This version of the ID7 is actually a saloon, or sedan, albeit with a rear opening hatch door, instead of a traditional boot/trunk lid…
You need to get your terminology in order 😏😏
@@Nicholas.T Like was said in the video, ID.7 is a fastback, not a sedan/saloon.
Would be nice with a decent petrol engine.
Nothing about real-world range & energy consumption during your test drive... We don't know if VW have taken a step forward in terms of the efficiency of their drive train.
Unfortunately on press launches we don’t have much time to measure this.
This needs to be compared with the Tesla Model S, not the small Model 3. From the BMW i5, not the i4. And almost MB EQS is the same size. And strong regen in RWD electric cars have now been found to be dangerous in Nordic countries.
I strongly disagree, as does Volkswagen themselves. This is a D-Segment saloon that VW have targeted at the Tesla Model 3, BYD Seal, Hyundai Ioniq 6,BMW i4 and Polestar 2. Yes, it is slightly bigger than those cars for better accommodation, but then that is one area that the ID.7 excels at. It is also priced in accordance with those cars. The Model S, BMW i5 and Mercedes EQE (and most definitely NOT the EQS as you suggest) are way more expensive than this car by tens of thousands of pounds.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Wired CarPlay - really!? That’s a step backwards.
It’s not a bad feature as that you have a direct (thus, speedier) connection, and your phone’s battery gets a top up!
Updates are in the works. So I hear.
So good, at launch they shifted only 300 in 3 days at China’s 2000+ VW dealerships 😮 Yikes.
VW EVs will get better from now on because more and more they will have XPENG inside.
They did not put $700Million into XPENG a company light years ahead of VW for nothing.
VW should count themselves lucky that the Chineses haven't started importing in big numbers yet, this just looks safe and dreary.
Not just VW. But that's because they haven't tooled up yet. They're still building the car manufacturing infrastructure.
Another 2.2 tonne behemoth
What would you suggest?
It's a shame that VW are playing catch-up here, at last. But is it too late? I guess we'll see. Would I buy one? No! Sorry VW, but it's Tesla's charging network that does it, plus you're still just too expensive, start at £39,000 inc the heat pump, and I may..........
Teslas aren't cheap Jeeves.
The Premium Seal is cheaper than the cheapest Tesla in Australia. Beat that !.
Seal are not allowed in Canada, and the U.S. due to not meeting safety standards. Whilst the sticker price is cheaper, they may not be worth the cost.
@@robbiewiliams1974 ahhh…..the ol’ safety ruse trick. Cybertruck wouldn’t be acceptable OUTSIDE North America.
It’s the ‘ways n means’ method when you get desperate.
Definitely going to be a candidate for fastest depreciating EV in a few years time. Don't know why VW keep bothering with large saloons.
Did you use your crystal ball for the one?
i think a better comparison would be the Tesla Model Y - the UK's biggest selling car, indeed Europe's biggest selling car too! The car size and boot shape/space is more comparable and potential customers (families & company car drivers)
But the Model Y is a crossover/SUV. This is a D-Segment saloon/hatch so it’s the Model 3 it competes with.
@@AutoEV to the general public they'll look first at the shape and size of the car and the especially the boot aperture... model y is more similar
But the shape of the Model Y is much higher and shorter than the ID.7. It’s like suggesting a Ford Mondeo competes with a Land Rover Freelander. Both would be good as a family car, but in terms of market positioning their respective manufacturers place them elsewhere against other rivals.
Space inside is a bit like the old grandad!
Call me when the GTX arrives. The standard car is just to mediocre. It fits VW model of being "just good enough" but nothing special. As I've said many times before, just good enough isn't good enough -- to beat the competition. In order to pull people's attention away from established rivals, it needs to do something different or special.
For example, what is it the Tesla (or other EV) biggest weakness or thing it doesn't have or do well? VW can't match Tesla's infotainment, Teslas too good at that. They also won't out sprint them. Tesla's limitations are performance, fit-and-finish, and spartan ("minimalist") interiors. Give the VW more creature comforts and remember "small touches" add up. A lock for the hatch, for example.
BTW, still haven't seen the wheels I like on any EV. Regardless of manufacture. VW is no different.
It’s competing with Model Y not Model 3 so it falls down on price badly.
No, it’s a D-segment saloon/hatch hence it competes with the Model 3. The Model Y is a SUV/Crossover so the ID.4 competes with that car.
None off them. ID.7 is a larger car with loads off more storage space compared to Model 3. We are a family off five and no way we would fit us in a Model 3 going on holiday. Nice car though
I would have to say it's not pretty or special.
I just don't like the look of it. More like a ICE car.
The Model 3 Highland LR is cheaper? Lol! What are VW thinking. Failure, again.
I drove it. Nice but worth about 30.000 pounds.
Your review is full of exaggerations and repetitive expressions.
Minimalist look on the screen? You drunk?
Come on man.
Something to think about!!
This is a CAT994A.
It burns around 1000 litres of fuel in 12 hours, moves around 250 tons of dirt to remove materials needed to make ONE Tesla battery.
To make any battery, you need to process:
- 12 tons of lithium seal
- 15 tons of ore for cobalt
- 3 tons of ore for nickel,
- 12 ton ore for copper
And shifting 250 tonnes of crust.
For only - one - battery, which ca:
- 12 kg of Lithium
- 30 kgs of Nickel
- 22 kg Eating
- 15 kg of cobalt
- 100 kg of copper
- 200 kg aluminum, steel and plastic
And people believe in "zero emissions" when they drive their electric car.
And for oil? or a combustion engine?