There's just something about E-Drums. I admire how far technology has come and how good they have gotten, but that feeling of banging an acoustic kit that feels huge and sounds huge is just priceless.
Totally agree. However as a rather “silent” option…these kick! See what I did there? I said “kick”…..and it’s a drum…….and we kick…..never mind. Jokes can be a “stroke” of genius….if you’re on a roll……Here I go again. Lol.
I had the HD3 and I could never do semiquavers (16th notes) on the bass drum pedal. It drove me crazy. I just sold it and got a Roland TD-17KV. I LOVE the kick drum and snare. It's so nice to be able to play with a normal bass drum pedal again. Thanks Justin for all your hard work doing these reviews. You helped me to choose my new kit. Also, greetings from Australia
It s quite easy to have a very stable KD-9 ... You need to adjust the angle of the plate to fit your particular kickdrum pedal . Just loosen the 2 big hex screws , adjust the angle so the pad+pedal are sitting flush on the floor , then screw it tightly ... It wont moove so much . Another thing is to choose a stiff carpet . I use the kind of carpet tiles you find in shops or offices , thick and stiff and also very flat .
I have a KD-9 and oh boy let me tell you about it moving around. My dad is a beast so he made all the DIY options that I needed to stabilize my kit (TD-25KV) from moving around (I am in a very very tight space). The whole drumset is sitting on a noise eating surface my dad made (forgot which material it is) and the surface with the drumset is on the carpet. To get the KD-9 to stop moving was the hardest of them all. Put it against the rack-slips sideways, spikes-punctured through the DIY moise eater. So my dad made a very thin wooden plate (some weird type of wood) in the shape of all my pedals which are glued to it and then that is glued to my DIY noise eater. The plate where the KD-9 is extends so the pedal and the KD-9 are glued to it and it is glued to the floor which FINALLY stopped the goddamn KD-9 from moving. I plan to maybe get a Drum-Tec 18 inch kick by the end of 2020 if I can even make space for it. Sorry for the long story, hope you get a good laugh from it!
@@richardyost6797 Hello! I know now that my platform is made from cork. All of my components are glued to it (except the rack) like I described above. However I don't own that shitty KD-9 now anymore, I got myself a Drum Tec 18 inch kick like I said I was going to. Basically can't go anywhere now. As for the platform, it's made from cork and it was cut specifically to fit my small space. Around the edges it is sheathed with some sort of transparent plastic rods that prevent the platform from getting damaged. I am not really sure about it all either, my dad made everything it works wonders!
I have the KD-10 on my Td-17 KVX. I love it but it freaked me out when after a month an indentation in the pad began to form. I was told this was normal. Also, I put a panel in front of it to keep it from sliding forward on my rug. This has always been an issue for me, even with acoustic kits.
@@dannylorenze6188 I just replaced the foam pad in my VAD306 (really just a KD10 at heart) because of deep indentation. Turns out those appear after a few strokes of the beater. The foam is very easy to replace, takes about 20 seconds, but you can only get them from Sweetwater to my knowledge and they go fast everytime Roland sends a batch overseas. 50 bucks after shipping costs. I am going to try a patch or something, call me crazy but having a flat surface seems like a good idea to me. I think it takes a while before we notice the indentation(s) because it doesnt necessarily jump out at you depending on lighting. But I made a point to check it the moment I played on the new foam.
Great vid, I didn't know the kd120 had been around since 1998. Still, it's my favorite for feel vs cost. Has a great feel but can be had fairly cheap (I actually got mine for 120 dollars with the mesh head being ripped, cheap fix and I was good to go!)
I tried just about all those kick pads. I settled on KD-A22 conversion set, and KD7. KD7 is actually quite nice. Feels good, and it's compact, and it doesn't move around. Perfect for a portable drum set..
I am a few months in to a TD-27. During the ordering of it I made a case (with Guitar Center) that the KD-10 was the weak point in the kit and convinced them to sell me a KD-120 for the difference in the cost of them which was $200 off the kit. Bought the KD-120 for $250 ...and I am so glad I did. The kit also looks way better. I really wanted the KD-140 but at over $1k, I couldn't really justify it. They even let me keep the KD-10 and it is still in the unopened box. One of the posters here asked if the 120 is loud. I would say yes, absolutely it is.
I turned 60 and today bought myself a set of open box TD-27KV for $2850 & free shipping which I thought was fair price. Always wanted to learn drums and been playing guitar my whole life. I was just thinking that adding a bigger kick like the TD 120 seems like it would just make the entire experience more enjoyable and I came across your comment which confirmed what I was already thinking. The cool thing is the drums were not shipped yet as they are waiting for me to decide which hardware to get. So on Monday going to swap the KD-10 and pay difference for the KD 120. So grateful I read your post!!!. Also want to go double bass. Do you like the Roland Noise eater products like RDH-102 A Double Bass and RDH 120A HHT pedal? That's my biggest confusion at the moment. What hardware should I get? I am a total newbie so appreciate any advice. Thanks and hoping I made right choice on this model as I almost bought the TD 17KVX. But bigger is usually better and I liked the 18 inch Ride and larger digital snare. So the KD-120 is the only item I am upgrading. Plus need a comfy throne. So not going to be stingy on that. Any recommendations? 🙏
You can get a piece of wood and Drilla the back part you know where the Spurs are for it to keep it from moving take those out and get something out since you're really down to that surface and it works
Our drummer tore thought our KD-8 to the point that the rubber was falling apart and it started to stutter. We had to add a DDrum module for the dual kick inputs and two Axis E3 triggers.
Great video! I actually had considered the td07 with more cymbals, but after watching videos and hearing what you have said about having a proper kick pad, and hi hat, I decided against it. This channel has been so extremely helpful in picking what set to actually buy 🙂
I've been happy with the td-1dmk. The kick pad works fine on mine and is responsive enough for double kick in my testing. It's a bit loud though, maybe slightly quieter than hitting my rubber cymbals.
hey Josep, what kind of pedal do you use with your td-1dmk? This is the kit i've landed on after research, I'm getting back into drums, but live in a flat. I've got an old pearl felt pedal, but was thinking of going for one of those beaterless kick pedals...?
@@razmataz13drums I’m currently using a set of Pearl P-922 double kicks. It came with the bundle when I got the set. So far I haven’t had any complaints from the next door or downstairs neighbors :)
@@razmataz13drums No problem! If you get it, I hope you enjoy it! I definitely like the set for the price! I do want to buy the extra cymbal for it eventually though
Had a KD-9 and man that was a pain to use, for singles it’s not too shabby but that thing becomes the San Andreas fault line when you try using double bass pedals with it. Eventually got a KD-120 from Edrumcenter and I’ve never been happier. It’s solid, stable, and triggers a lot better than the KD-9. The bass drum towers are fine if you’re only using a single pedal but if you’re wanting to go the double route you have to buy the better bass drum pads
I’ve used the RT-30k on 20”, 22” and 24” bass drums. It worked on all three but best on the 20”. I think the main issue was double triggering per the heads vibrating from the air movement. It takes a bit of tweaking but works well. Same with Snare and Toms. The smaller diameter the better it works.
Thanks for this interesting video! Largely as a result of your reviews I upgraded to a Roland KD10 kick tower and it is brilliant. I love the slightly cushioned feel, double pedal triggering, medium weight and sturdiness. Plus it's also a relatively cheap option as kick towers go. 👍
i play the kd9 at church - despite not being all that inspiring to look at, it does its job well and has a good, solid feel to it. the other drummer is very heavy-footed and it's survived him for years. it has never moved on me. the velcro underneath is nigh immovable with the carpeting on the platform unless you release it from a certain angle. if space, noise, and portability are top priority, the kt10 seems ideal. aesthetically, i prefer the kt140 over just about anything (even big phony full-size bass drums). but the price makes it hard to justify, when other triggers perform just as well and the sound is produced by the module lol
Great video! I love history and this wraps up the history of Roland kicks very well. I would disagree about the TD1 pedal. It is hands down my favorite. Inexpensive, portable, and VERY quiet. I agree that it does not feel like a normal kick pedal. Frankly, no edrums feel like real drums. Best played heel down for accuracy. Anyway, I have two of these and use them for simply augmenting my acoustic set with various sounds. I see it as the BT-1 for your feet. Simple and versatile. By the way, the hi-hat pedal looks the same, but does not act the same.
i got the kd120 on my roland td-10 v session kit that i bought in japan in 2002. it is white like all the other pads but i was able to get the purple rack. i got it at ishibashi music on the chuo line near shinjuku
@@kbaeve Good to know. It'll be a few months before I am ready to begin the upgrades that I have planned, but I'll keep you in mind. Just out of curiosity, what kind of price are we talking ? On a side note. I love this channel as it is very informative and I am a player of electronic drums as well as acoustic ones. I built my current e kit largely based off of information gathered from channels like this one and other players. It hasn't let me down yet.
I have the KD-9, and I have never had a creeping issue... and I am a pretty heavy hitter who always plays heel-up. I always use a quality drum rug, and I believe that having good pedals that stay put on their own also helps a ton. If you have kick pedals that slide around, I'm sure the grip of the KD-9 won't be able to overcome that extra force. Honestly, it shouldn't need to. As far as feel, I absolutely love the feel of the pillow pad on it. Great kick tower; stays in place, feels good, and takes some serious abuse without ever failing me.
Hi pal, I also have KD 9 and the ply has a hole in it now.. Do you know if I can buy a new pad to replace it? I can't find it on the internet.. I hope I'm not supposed to buy a whole new kickpad...
I have owned KD-9 for close to 10 years now. It started out as very solid beginner level pad, but in recent years, especially after learning different double-bass techniques it has definitely started to move around a lot, to the point that playing a complete song has become impossible. I ordered a KB-120 which I'm hoping to remedy this issue
i dig your videos on electric drums. I’ve always wanted to buy or build an E set, just never got around to it. Your vids are helping my research into what i might wanna buy…so thanks! n keep posting more info!
I have the kd-8 and it starts hurting me if I've been playing for awhile, so I'm looking to get something more comfortable that doesn't hurt to play on for a long time. I'm looking at a kd-9 for a really good deal, I'm hoping this is going to be a significant improvement.
KD-140 is awesome bit of kit...the price is ridiculous... Cost of Roland in general is too high... Affordability aside it's well made and great !!!Thanks for a useful video 😎
I have KD10, solid one feels okay is small not cheap as anything ronald does but its the best combo of everything you can think of, price-feeling-size.
Good review as always. My purpose of a e-kit is to have a small footprint and quite practice. Also triggering SD3 for some recording ideas. The bass drum needs to feels solid and close to the real thing. Every BD will feel different but at least close to play accurately. The conversion kits are too big and noise for my use. I would just play an acoustic set if I could be loud and have room. You can deaden the sound as much as the conversion BD. I still have the Roland TD-30KV with the add ons. I have been on the fence about going for the digital ride, HH, and SD on the 50X. I would still want to use the same BD. I would actually just get a 50X set that has the parts I want and sell doubles. The toms on the kits with the 140 BD and lower level than the ones on my 30KV. Just waiting for a great deal to pop up. the 140 is still my choice.
I have the Roland Kd-140. I feel that sometimes I have to play it harder than the other pads in my TD-30 kv. I hate to have to deal with the sensitivity parameters in order to compensate.
I play the KD-8, KD-9, KD-10 and KD-140 weekly. The KD-140 is in a class by its self, rock sold. The others are fairly comparable in my opinion. I like the KD-10 the best, it just feels better, but the KD-8 has stood the test of time. Been playing mine for about 12 years now, never had a problem. Nice video Justin. Happy New Year!!!
blitz7079 Been seriously contemplating replacing my acoustic kick drum by a KD140. Is there any reason more touring drummers don’t do this? The sound and feel seem amazing, the footprint is a lot smaller, and you can simply plug into the soundboard. I get that you need to be able to EQ the bass drum to all the acoustic pieces, but on the surface it seems like the pros outweigh the cons. Opinion?
@@industrialpulse Touring drummers need the stage presence a real kick drum offers. I really think it's an aesthetics preference for them in addition to the other reasons you mentioned.
Just did that first piece drum you mentioned I had a chance to buy one used but I didn't for whatever reason of a long time ago thank you so much for the video Happy Holidays
Hi there, I really injoy your video. I do have a TD-6 Module. But my hi-hat went out on me. So I'm planning on buying a FD-8 hi-hat controller pedal. I'm wondering if I do get that FD-8 hi-hat would work with the TD-6 Module. Because it's one of the first Module from Roland. And I don't want to buy a new Module just for the hi-hat. Can you please let me know. Thank You.
I have two KT-10s, and I must warn that they do slide a lot on more flat surfaces (even on office carpet). If you have very thick and soft carpet, they won’t slide that much. Edit: Also, I’ve owned a KD-120 for 6 years, and it holds up well. I had to replace the mesh head once, but that was my fault. It still works great! I found that the KD-8 would wear after about 1-2 years.
I have the KD-9 which feels good but I can't stand how it moves around, especially with double base pedals. I wanted the look of a 22" acoustic but couldn't bring myself to spend $1,500 for a KD220. So I bought a used kick drum and ripped it down to 11" deep so it would fit on my Road Runner rug. Then for about $150, I put on a Remo Silent Stroke mesh head and a Roland RT30K kick drum trigger. Works perfect and looks great.
I have the KD-120 with kbrakes. For me its perfect. I dont like kd8 and kd9 because they move around. Never tested the kd10. The kd140 is great, its an improved kd120.
KD9-anyone else have a deepening dent in the playing surface?Ive tried to fix it, REPLACE it but there is no way (thus far). Anyone else had success, or even just the same problem? I’d appreciate hearing what you got.
I had a Roland TD-7E back in 1994 and played on it for a couple of years. But when I bought my first house, I sold it to buy a real drum kit (the one you see on my channel). Then I realized that even though I thought the TD-7E sounded good, it certainly didn't measure up to a well tuned, well recorded, real drum kit. Mostly because of the limited sensor technology of the day, mesh pads are evidently better than hard rubber ones, but also, and more importantly, because of the drum samples which sounded static and repetitive. A real drum will NEVER sound the same twice. But even today, expensive Roland drum modules are very limited in dynamics, number of samples per instrument, and still exhibit the undesirable machine-gun effect because the module is replaying the same sound sample over and over. Especially noticeable on rolls, or double kick action. Some good drum softwares are indeed careful to avoid this by including clever multi-sample, random rotation playback, but Roland has yet to catch on with their modules. I don't know why, because they already do it for their digital, sample based pianos, where the same note will never play the same sample twice in a row. So why not for their electronic drum modules ? Who knows...
TD9 player, stable on a synthetic grip mesh (used in car trays etc) on top of pile carpet. After owning from new for almost a decade, I’ve just looked into rotating the pad as I prefer a lower than centre beater point. However when the plastic shell cover is removed it’s a sandwich of mesh and foam on a plate with foam mountings glued to the robust, metal frame. So, if you wanted to rotate it it’d be a. a major task b. likely to easily damage the mounting foam c. Not gain much in sound quality (it’s a single, piezo, disc, trigger sensor). In Roland’s wisdom the materials used are extremely durable and I’d expect a tear to be the ultimate fate of these particular pads. How adjustable are the higher end models heads’, if at all, Justin? Or similarly are there other manufacturers that do have adjustable heads on their KDs? Great review btw 👍
Consistently the best vids on this subject. What would you say are the best e kick drums in terms of realism and quietness? Looking at building a quiet hybrid practice kit.
Hey. I have the Roland TD4 KP... The kick pad is beginning to fail to pick up every hit and dynamic.. it’s almost like it’s clipping. I can see a small dent I believe from using a hard plastic beater. Is there a replacement pad available somewhere? Or perhaps a similar model? Thank you
Just bought the conversion kit, excited to try it out! Quick question, you mentioned adding a pad to protect the surface, did I understand that right? Do you have recommendations? I have read a lot of the standard ones fall off quickly. Also, any recommendation for best beater to help keep from destroying the surface? Awesome videos, appreciate it!!
Acoustic bass drum + RT-30K trigger + PowerPly mesh head = done dirt cheap. I'm as big a Roland fanboy as they come, but there's no way they're going to snooker me into shelling out $1500 for a KD-220 with that ridiculous batter head design.
I upgraded from an Alesis DM6 to a Roland TD-50K and that kick drum is 100% better than the kick drum on that DM6. The kick is much more audible with a double on the TD-50 than the DM6 where is would register some hits and sometimes not with a Double pedal.
Can someone help me with this question? I've got a TD-1 as a present from my brother, he just wanted to make me happy and he did not know what to buy. I had a plan to buy a proper pedal, e.g. KD-10 and DW5000 pedal, but I don't know if it is compatible or ist going to work.
In 2013 the KD140 cost 600 euros in a norwegian music store. 8 years later it costs 990 euros. Can anyone expøain why it has become so expensive? I cant find any info about improvements
I have an rt 10 snare trigger and i also have rt 30 triggers,i don't use the rt 10 anymore and i can say for sure the rt 30 triggers a little better than the rt 10
HI I love your videos. Im a beginner and want to buy a double kick machine. i have a roland kd 10, which doublebass would you recomment? thanks! have happy easter time
Great video thank you. I play a td-9 module and KD-8 but am having trouble with double bass pedal triggering. Its like the trigger is set in the dead center of the pad, in between the two beater strikes. Any advice?
Hi, I'm not a drummer, I'm a producer and guitar teacher. On my music school I have a cheep millennium e-drum kit for classes (not me teaching obviously) and drum midi programming. I've noticed that when using double drum pedal if I don't lift my foot right away and the other beater gets to the head before the previous one lifts, the pad does not trigger. Is this normal? I know very well that good technique is lifting the pedal but, like I said, I'm not a drummer and I'm just trying to program drums. I don't even play the drum part. I program kick and snare, than cymbals, then breaks, etc...
I purchased a Roland TD-50K that comes with a KD-180 for free but also comes with a KD-140BC, I have both unopen I want to know which one is better and sell the other one, could you tell me your thoughts?
Hey man wonder can you help I bought the dd90 from gear4music nice little pad,I got a Yamaha kp65 to go with it but for some reason the pedal is triggering pad 2 can't get it to play bass individually any ideas what I'm doing wrong cheers.
Advice, anyone? I am giving away my old TD-8 Vdrums to my buddy’s son. Should I give him the old KD-80 kick, OR the still boxed and new KD-9 kick that came with my new unboxed TD-25KV kit? I want to keep the better kick drum and value all input here. Thanks Justin and Co.
What do you think about replacing a KD-10 (using it with a Drumtec sound absorbing beater) for a KT-10? I have a problem with both volume and vibration, so that's why I've built a riser and I'm using the Drumtec beater, but honestly I don't like the feeling that much and the standard beater is way too loud.
Hi man.. Good day!! Thank you for your good videos!! I have some questions (very important for me) for you. I have a New Roland Octapad and I would like to put a kick... I have two options, Yamaha KP65A and Roland KD8. Which one would you buy? Is kick yamaha compatible with Octapad Roland? I would like you to help me. Thank you and ALL THE BEST.
I am just about to buy My first electronic Drumkit, Im gonna buy a Used Roland TD 11k, with included Speaker, headphones, Drumthrone, and Kick Pedal for 400 Swiss Francs. Do you think thats a good Deal? I probably will Upgrade the rubber Pads later.
Hi Justin, I have a Roland KD 85 bass drum and I just tore the head and am looking to replace it. Can you recommend a good solid 2 ply head that should last a good while? Thanks
I was going to buy a KVX but I already have a good acoustic bass drum, and buying a KV with the A22 will work out £530 ($740) cheaper... Noise isn’t an issue for me, but is the KD-220 honestly worth it for its “special shell that reduces resonance” or will I get an awesome TD-50 experience by converting my acoustic bass drum?
"...is the KD-220 honestly worth it for its “special shell that reduces resonance” No. "...or will I get an awesome TD-50 experience by converting my acoustic bass drum?" Yes.
Hi Justin, I’ve been meaning to ask for months, what do you this is the essential EZX expansion pack for EZ drummer 2? I’m using the pre-loaded standards and I’m looking for something just better. I know you’ll say it depends which genre, I’m a beginner drummer just looking to play along to my favourite Pearl Jam and Chili Peppers songs. Thanks
" on the downside , it looks freeking ugly"..... Priceless quote.
@Justin ... Another "ugly looking " one you missed is KD-5 ...
Lol
There's just something about E-Drums. I admire how far technology has come and how good they have gotten, but that feeling of banging an acoustic kit that feels huge and sounds huge is just priceless.
Thats the problem. Alot of people cant bang on an acoustic set due to noise issues. But I can practice my edrums anytime. I have both.
@@johndef5075 perfect response....
There is just something about it being 2am and me deciding I am going to play after too many beers..... in my apartment.
Totally agree. However as a rather “silent” option…these kick! See what I did there? I said “kick”…..and it’s a drum…….and we kick…..never mind. Jokes can be a “stroke” of genius….if you’re on a roll……Here I go again. Lol.
I had the HD3 and I could never do semiquavers (16th notes) on the bass drum pedal. It drove me crazy. I just sold it and got a Roland TD-17KV. I LOVE the kick drum and snare. It's so nice to be able to play with a normal bass drum pedal again. Thanks Justin for all your hard work doing these reviews. You helped me to choose my new kit. Also, greetings from Australia
It s quite easy to have a very stable KD-9 ... You need to adjust the angle of the plate to fit your particular kickdrum pedal . Just loosen the 2 big hex screws , adjust the angle so the pad+pedal are sitting flush on the floor , then screw it tightly ... It wont moove so much . Another thing is to choose a stiff carpet . I use the kind of carpet tiles you find in shops or offices , thick and stiff and also very flat .
I have a KD-9 and oh boy let me tell you about it moving around. My dad is a beast so he made all the DIY options that I needed to stabilize my kit (TD-25KV) from moving around (I am in a very very tight space). The whole drumset is sitting on a noise eating surface my dad made (forgot which material it is) and the surface with the drumset is on the carpet. To get the KD-9 to stop moving was the hardest of them all. Put it against the rack-slips sideways, spikes-punctured through the DIY moise eater. So my dad made a very thin wooden plate (some weird type of wood) in the shape of all my pedals which are glued to it and then that is glued to my DIY noise eater. The plate where the KD-9 is extends so the pedal and the KD-9 are glued to it and it is glued to the floor which FINALLY stopped the goddamn KD-9 from moving. I plan to maybe get a Drum-Tec 18 inch kick by the end of 2020 if I can even make space for it. Sorry for the long story, hope you get a good laugh from it!
Hello how well does your noise eating platform Work? And do you know what it is made out of?
@@richardyost6797 Hello! I know now that my platform is made from cork. All of my components are glued to it (except the rack) like I described above. However I don't own that shitty KD-9 now anymore, I got myself a Drum Tec 18 inch kick like I said I was going to. Basically can't go anywhere now. As for the platform, it's made from cork and it was cut specifically to fit my small space. Around the edges it is sheathed with some sort of transparent plastic rods that prevent the platform from getting damaged. I am not really sure about it all either, my dad made everything it works wonders!
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I have the KD-10 on my Td-17 KVX. I love it but it freaked me out when after a month an indentation in the pad began to form. I was told this was normal. Also, I put a panel in front of it to keep it from sliding forward on my rug. This has always been an issue for me, even with acoustic kits.
you can try one of those EQ drum patches, it has stopped mine from indenting
Same with my KD-10, dented in after 2 months of playing and it has lost all the attach sound on the pad. Definitely the worst part of my KV27..
@@dannylorenze6188 I just replaced the foam pad in my VAD306 (really just a KD10 at heart) because of deep indentation. Turns out those appear after a few strokes of the beater. The foam is very easy to replace, takes about 20 seconds, but you can only get them from Sweetwater to my knowledge and they go fast everytime Roland sends a batch overseas. 50 bucks after shipping costs. I am going to try a patch or something, call me crazy but having a flat surface seems like a good idea to me. I think it takes a while before we notice the indentation(s) because it doesnt necessarily jump out at you depending on lighting. But I made a point to check it the moment I played on the new foam.
Great vid, I didn't know the kd120 had been around since 1998. Still, it's my favorite for feel vs cost. Has a great feel but can be had fairly cheap (I actually got mine for 120 dollars with the mesh head being ripped, cheap fix and I was good to go!)
I've used both the RTK-10 on an 18" kick drum and now the KDA-220. Both triggered EXCELLENTLY but the KDA feels AMAZING!!!!
I tried just about all those kick pads. I settled on KD-A22 conversion set, and KD7. KD7 is actually quite nice. Feels good, and it's compact, and it doesn't move around. Perfect for a portable drum set..
I am a few months in to a TD-27. During the ordering of it I made a case (with Guitar Center) that the KD-10 was the weak point in the kit and convinced them to sell me a KD-120 for the difference in the cost of them which was $200 off the kit. Bought the KD-120 for $250 ...and I am so glad I did. The kit also looks way better. I really wanted the KD-140 but at over $1k, I couldn't really justify it. They even let me keep the KD-10 and it is still in the unopened box. One of the posters here asked if the 120 is loud. I would say yes, absolutely it is.
I turned 60 and today bought myself a set of open box TD-27KV for $2850 & free shipping which I thought was fair price. Always wanted to learn drums and been playing guitar my whole life. I was just thinking that adding a bigger kick like the TD 120 seems like it would just make the entire experience more enjoyable and I came across your comment which confirmed what I was already thinking. The cool thing is the drums were not shipped yet as they are waiting for me to decide which hardware to get. So on Monday going to swap the KD-10 and pay difference for the KD 120. So grateful I read your post!!!. Also want to go double bass. Do you like the Roland Noise eater products like RDH-102 A Double Bass and RDH 120A HHT pedal? That's my biggest confusion at the moment. What hardware should I get? I am a total newbie so appreciate any advice. Thanks and hoping I made right choice on this model as I almost bought the TD 17KVX. But bigger is usually better and I liked the 18 inch Ride and larger digital snare. So the KD-120 is the only item I am upgrading. Plus need a comfy throne. So not going to be stingy on that. Any recommendations? 🙏
I have the KD9 and it certainly moves a lot. The way I make it work is by having it rest against a wall. Thanks for the review!
You can get a piece of wood and Drilla the back part you know where the Spurs are for it to keep it from moving take those out and get something out since you're really down to that surface and it works
@@miker5233 thanks, though it's really okay now.
Our drummer tore thought our KD-8 to the point that the rubber was falling apart and it started to stutter. We had to add a DDrum module for the dual kick inputs and two Axis E3 triggers.
I’m still using the KD-7 since they came out and it might look strange, I still like the feel and it’s doesn’t take up much room.
I have 2 chained together for double bass.
I have the Roland TDKV-30 and yes, that KD140 is heavy!
Great video! I actually had considered the td07 with more cymbals, but after watching videos and hearing what you have said about having a proper kick pad, and hi hat, I decided against it. This channel has been so extremely helpful in picking what set to actually buy 🙂
I've been happy with the td-1dmk. The kick pad works fine on mine and is responsive enough for double kick in my testing. It's a bit loud though, maybe slightly quieter than hitting my rubber cymbals.
hey Josep, what kind of pedal do you use with your td-1dmk? This is the kit i've landed on after research, I'm getting back into drums, but live in a flat. I've got an old pearl felt pedal, but was thinking of going for one of those beaterless kick pedals...?
@@razmataz13drums I’m currently using a set of Pearl P-922 double kicks. It came with the bundle when I got the set. So far I haven’t had any complaints from the next door or downstairs neighbors :)
@@DocHollidayGames hey man thanks for your reply :) I think im being overly cautious tbh, and need to just go for it!
@@razmataz13drums No problem! If you get it, I hope you enjoy it! I definitely like the set for the price! I do want to buy the extra cymbal for it eventually though
Had a KD-9 and man that was a pain to use, for singles it’s not too shabby but that thing becomes the San Andreas fault line when you try using double bass pedals with it. Eventually got a KD-120 from Edrumcenter and I’ve never been happier. It’s solid, stable, and triggers a lot better than the KD-9. The bass drum towers are fine if you’re only using a single pedal but if you’re wanting to go the double route you have to buy the better bass drum pads
I’ve used the RT-30k on 20”, 22” and 24” bass drums. It worked on all three but best on the 20”. I think the main issue was double triggering per the heads vibrating from the air movement. It takes a bit of tweaking but works well. Same with Snare and Toms. The smaller diameter the better it works.
Great video. Really well made and no time wasting. I'm still on a roland TD-10! Looking to upgrade though. Again, thanks for a great video
Thanks for this interesting video! Largely as a result of your reviews I upgraded to a Roland KD10 kick tower and it is brilliant. I love the slightly cushioned feel, double pedal triggering, medium weight and sturdiness. Plus it's also a relatively cheap option as kick towers go. 👍
i play the kd9 at church - despite not being all that inspiring to look at, it does its job well and has a good, solid feel to it. the other drummer is very heavy-footed and it's survived him for years. it has never moved on me. the velcro underneath is nigh immovable with the carpeting on the platform unless you release it from a certain angle. if space, noise, and portability are top priority, the kt10 seems ideal. aesthetically, i prefer the kt140 over just about anything (even big phony full-size bass drums). but the price makes it hard to justify, when other triggers perform just as well and the sound is produced by the module lol
After seeing recent prices, I am very happy I got my full td9 kit 14 years ago...
Same here, got the full td-9 for €600 two years ago. Hardly used.. now upgrading it with the vh-11 hihat and extra Tom and crash cymbal😎
@@J2I3H I put the vh11 on mine, love it!
Great video! I love history and this wraps up the history of Roland kicks very well. I would disagree about the TD1 pedal. It is hands down my favorite. Inexpensive, portable, and VERY quiet. I agree that it does not feel like a normal kick pedal. Frankly, no edrums feel like real drums. Best played heel down for accuracy. Anyway, I have two of these and use them for simply augmenting my acoustic set with various sounds. I see it as the BT-1 for your feet. Simple and versatile.
By the way, the hi-hat pedal looks the same, but does not act the same.
I don’t understand why the KD 220 is so expensive, you can buy a god drum kit for the same price.
i got the kd120 on my roland td-10 v session kit that i bought in japan in 2002. it is white like all the other pads but i was able to get the purple rack. i got it at ishibashi music on the chuo line near shinjuku
Justin knocking out them sweet double kick skills
Currently using a KD-8. I'll be moving to a KD-140 as soon as funds allow.
Great video.
Thank you.
GreenCthulhu I have a new one for sale in Norway 😅
@@kbaeve Good to know. It'll be a few months before I am ready to begin the upgrades that I have planned, but I'll keep you in mind. Just out of curiosity, what kind of price are we talking ?
On a side note. I love this channel as it is very informative and I am a player of electronic drums as well as acoustic ones. I built my current e kit largely based off of information gathered from channels like this one and other players. It hasn't let me down yet.
I have the KD-9, and I have never had a creeping issue... and I am a pretty heavy hitter who always plays heel-up. I always use a quality drum rug, and I believe that having good pedals that stay put on their own also helps a ton. If you have kick pedals that slide around, I'm sure the grip of the KD-9 won't be able to overcome that extra force. Honestly, it shouldn't need to. As far as feel, I absolutely love the feel of the pillow pad on it. Great kick tower; stays in place, feels good, and takes some serious abuse without ever failing me.
Hi pal, I also have KD 9 and the ply has a hole in it now.. Do you know if I can buy a new pad to replace it? I can't find it on the internet.. I hope I'm not supposed to buy a whole new kickpad...
I have owned KD-9 for close to 10 years now. It started out as very solid beginner level pad, but in recent years, especially after learning different double-bass techniques it has definitely started to move around a lot, to the point that playing a complete song has become impossible. I ordered a KB-120 which I'm hoping to remedy this issue
i dig your videos on electric drums. I’ve always wanted to buy or build an E set, just never got around to it. Your vids are helping my research into what i might wanna buy…so thanks! n keep posting more info!
I have the kd-8 and it starts hurting me if I've been playing for awhile, so I'm looking to get something more comfortable that doesn't hurt to play on for a long time.
I'm looking at a kd-9 for a really good deal, I'm hoping this is going to be a significant improvement.
KD-140 is awesome bit of kit...the price is ridiculous... Cost of Roland in general is too high... Affordability aside it's well made and great !!!Thanks for a useful video 😎
I have KD10, solid one feels okay is small not cheap as anything ronald does but its the best combo of everything you can think of, price-feeling-size.
Good review as always. My purpose of a e-kit is to have a small footprint and quite practice. Also triggering SD3 for some recording ideas. The bass drum needs to feels solid and close to the real thing. Every BD will feel different but at least close to play accurately. The conversion kits are too big and noise for my use. I would just play an acoustic set if I could be loud and have room. You can deaden the sound as much as the conversion BD.
I still have the Roland TD-30KV with the add ons. I have been on the fence about going for the digital ride, HH, and SD on the 50X. I would still want to use the same BD. I would actually just get a 50X set that has the parts I want and sell doubles. The toms on the kits with the 140 BD and lower level than the ones on my 30KV. Just waiting for a great deal to pop up. the 140 is still my choice.
I have a TD1 MK kit and the kick pad feels nice but just a bit to much rebound for my liking but other than that it’s great
I love my kd 10 on my td27 , its such an amazing kit
I have the Roland Kd-140. I feel that sometimes I have to play it harder than the other pads in my TD-30 kv. I hate to have to deal with the sensitivity parameters in order to compensate.
I play the KD-8, KD-9, KD-10 and KD-140 weekly. The KD-140 is in a class by its self, rock sold. The others are fairly comparable in my opinion. I like the KD-10 the best, it just feels better, but the KD-8 has stood the test of time. Been playing mine for about 12 years now, never had a problem. Nice video Justin. Happy New Year!!!
blitz7079 Been seriously contemplating replacing my acoustic kick drum by a KD140. Is there any reason more touring drummers don’t do this? The sound and feel seem amazing, the footprint is a lot smaller, and you can simply plug into the soundboard. I get that you need to be able to EQ the bass drum to all the acoustic pieces, but on the surface it seems like the pros outweigh the cons. Opinion?
@@industrialpulse Touring drummers need the stage presence a real kick drum offers. I really think it's an aesthetics preference for them in addition to the other reasons you mentioned.
@@blitz7079 i agree. Almost any ekit looks passable with an 18-24" bass drum.
My KD9 I put a 12 kg kettle on the back of it with the Handel leaning up against the wall!!
Does the job..
Just did that first piece drum you mentioned I had a chance to buy one used but I didn't for whatever reason of a long time ago thank you so much for the video Happy Holidays
Very thorough Justin! Good job! You are like a Roland Expert...
Hi there, I really injoy your video. I do have a TD-6 Module. But my hi-hat went out on me. So I'm planning on buying a FD-8 hi-hat controller pedal. I'm wondering if I do get that FD-8 hi-hat would work with the TD-6 Module. Because it's one of the first Module from Roland. And I don't want to buy a new Module just for the hi-hat. Can you please let me know.
Thank You.
I have two KT-10s, and I must warn that they do slide a lot on more flat surfaces (even on office carpet). If you have very thick and soft carpet, they won’t slide that much.
Edit: Also, I’ve owned a KD-120 for 6 years, and it holds up well. I had to replace the mesh head once, but that was my fault. It still works great! I found that the KD-8 would wear after about 1-2 years.
I'm just here to learn more about the kick pads. (also, the RT 10 K work well in my opinion)
I remember you only having 400 subs. Now your at 60000. Keep up the good content Justin.
Heh, I used a couple kd7s for my custom drum set back in the day. Definitely fit the bill there!
I have a yellow PD-10 Alpha kick pad, as well as a bunch of the PD-20 Alpha pads
You wanna sell?
The old one is the Star Wars kd11
I have the KD-9 which feels good but I can't stand how it moves around, especially with double base pedals. I wanted the look of a 22" acoustic but couldn't bring myself to spend $1,500 for a KD220. So I bought a used kick drum and ripped it down to 11" deep so it would fit on my Road Runner rug. Then for about $150, I put on a Remo Silent Stroke mesh head and a Roland RT30K kick drum trigger. Works perfect and looks great.
What about kd-5?
Спасибо. 😂 это первое видео, которое я смотрю на скорости 0.5)))
I have the KD-120 with kbrakes. For me its perfect. I dont like kd8 and kd9 because they move around. Never tested the kd10. The kd140 is great, its an improved kd120.
the first Kick Drum from Roland is the PD10 and 2 years later it come the pd11
Happy New Year to you and Season’s greetings,you are the go too bloke for everything edrums,cheers.
KD9-anyone else have a deepening dent in the playing surface?Ive tried to fix it, REPLACE it but there is no way (thus far). Anyone else had success, or even just the same problem? I’d appreciate hearing what you got.
I had a Roland TD-7E back in 1994 and played on it for a couple of years. But when I bought my first house, I sold it to buy a real drum kit (the one you see on my channel). Then I realized that even though I thought the TD-7E sounded good, it certainly didn't measure up to a well tuned, well recorded, real drum kit. Mostly because of the limited sensor technology of the day, mesh pads are evidently better than hard rubber ones, but also, and more importantly, because of the drum samples which sounded static and repetitive. A real drum will NEVER sound the same twice.
But even today, expensive Roland drum modules are very limited in dynamics, number of samples per instrument, and still exhibit the undesirable machine-gun effect because the module is replaying the same sound sample over and over. Especially noticeable on rolls, or double kick action. Some good drum softwares are indeed careful to avoid this by including clever multi-sample, random rotation playback, but Roland has yet to catch on with their modules.
I don't know why, because they already do it for their digital, sample based pianos, where the same note will never play the same sample twice in a row. So why not for their electronic drum modules ? Who knows...
The new ones Look amazing
TD9 player, stable on a synthetic grip mesh (used in car trays etc) on top of pile carpet. After owning from new for almost a decade, I’ve just looked into rotating the pad as I prefer a lower than centre beater point. However when the plastic shell cover is removed it’s a sandwich of mesh and foam on a plate with foam mountings glued to the robust, metal frame. So, if you wanted to rotate it it’d be a. a major task b. likely to easily damage the mounting foam c. Not gain much in sound quality (it’s a single, piezo, disc, trigger sensor). In Roland’s wisdom the materials used are extremely durable and I’d expect a tear to be the ultimate fate of these particular pads.
How adjustable are the higher end models heads’, if at all, Justin? Or similarly are there other manufacturers that do have adjustable heads on their KDs? Great review btw 👍
Consistently the best vids on this subject. What would you say are the best e kick drums in terms of realism and quietness? Looking at building a quiet hybrid practice kit.
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GBY man💪🏼
Hey. I have the Roland TD4 KP...
The kick pad is beginning to fail to pick up every hit and dynamic.. it’s almost like it’s clipping. I can see a small dent I believe from using a hard plastic beater. Is there a replacement pad available somewhere? Or perhaps a similar model? Thank you
The double kick version of that pad is available on drum-tec.
Just bought the conversion kit, excited to try it out! Quick question, you mentioned adding a pad to protect the surface, did I understand that right?
Do you have recommendations? I have read a lot of the standard ones fall off quickly.
Also, any recommendation for best beater to help keep from destroying the surface?
Awesome videos, appreciate it!!
Good video Justin - we were looking forward to what you did with this. Store tour soon?
KD7 is my favourite.
Acoustic bass drum + RT-30K trigger + PowerPly mesh head = done dirt cheap.
I'm as big a Roland fanboy as they come, but there's no way they're going to snooker me into shelling out $1500 for a KD-220 with that ridiculous batter head design.
I upgraded from an Alesis DM6 to a Roland TD-50K and that kick drum is 100% better than the kick drum on that DM6. The kick is much more audible with a double on the TD-50 than the DM6 where is would register some hits and sometimes not with a Double pedal.
Would the TD-140 BC work on my TD-25kv set? Good deal online just don’t know If it’s compatible. Thank you
are those tiny tennis balls on your kick pedal on the 22" conversion?
Can someone help me with this question?
I've got a TD-1 as a present from my brother, he just wanted to make me happy and he did not know what to buy. I had a plan to buy a proper pedal, e.g. KD-10 and DW5000 pedal, but I don't know if it is compatible or ist going to work.
In 2013 the KD140 cost 600 euros in a norwegian music store.
8 years later it costs 990 euros.
Can anyone expøain why it has become so expensive? I cant find any info about improvements
I have an rt 10 snare trigger and i also have rt 30 triggers,i don't use the rt 10 anymore and i can say for sure the rt 30 triggers a little better than the rt 10
HI I love your videos. Im a beginner and want to buy a double kick machine. i have a roland kd 10, which doublebass would you recomment? thanks! have happy easter time
In your opinion, for someone who has kd9 - does it make sense to upgrade to kd120? kd140 is out of the question for now. cheers
Great video thank you. I play a td-9 module and KD-8 but am having trouble with double bass pedal triggering. Its like the trigger is set in the dead center of the pad, in between the two beater strikes. Any advice?
So what should i buy between the KD-10 or the KD-120 i already have the KD-140 and KD-8 but want something smaller for small venues.
Great video. Thank you so much!
can i just plug into the spd sx and play kick drum with the kd-10
Hi, I'm not a drummer, I'm a producer and guitar teacher. On my music school I have a cheep millennium e-drum kit for classes (not me teaching obviously) and drum midi programming.
I've noticed that when using double drum pedal if I don't lift my foot right away and the other beater gets to the head before the previous one lifts, the pad does not trigger. Is this normal?
I know very well that good technique is lifting the pedal but, like I said, I'm not a drummer and I'm just trying to program drums. I don't even play the drum part. I program kick and snare, than cymbals, then breaks, etc...
Will all three, KD-8, 9, and 10 work with the TD-1K set? I've seen the KD-10 as an upgrade option but have not seen the others. Thank you.
Is KD 180L's sensor is the same with KD 10? I found KD 10's beater area so hard and rigid so I am wondering if KD 180L's feel is same with KD10.
I purchased a Roland TD-50K that comes with a KD-180 for free but also comes with a KD-140BC, I have both unopen I want to know which one is better and sell the other one, could you tell me your thoughts?
Hey man wonder can you help I bought the dd90 from gear4music nice little pad,I got a Yamaha kp65 to go with it but for some reason the pedal is triggering pad 2 can't get it to play bass individually any ideas what I'm doing wrong cheers.
Nice video! Does someone know if Roland KD-10 Kick Pad works with 2Box DrumIt5 module? Thank you for the answer!
Advice, anyone? I am giving away my old TD-8 Vdrums to my buddy’s son. Should I give him the old KD-80 kick, OR the still boxed and new KD-9 kick that came with my new unboxed TD-25KV kit? I want to keep the better kick drum and value all input here. Thanks Justin and Co.
I have a doubt that kick roland is compatible with alesis crimson ll ?
I would love to see how loud they are in real, without triggered sounds... So I am able to choose by generated noise
What do you think about replacing a KD-10 (using it with a Drumtec sound absorbing beater) for a KT-10? I have a problem with both volume and vibration, so that's why I've built a riser and I'm using the Drumtec beater, but honestly I don't like the feeling that much and the standard beater is way too loud.
My TD 17 Kick Pad is not working. Anyone else have this problem??
So, there’s no advantage at all in going beyond the KD-10, other than aesthetics … especially not if you want as quiet a set as possible … ?
Hi Justin, how would you compare the performance and feel of the ATV 13" kick drum to the Roland KD140? Need to make a decision.
Hi man.. Good day!!
Thank you for your good videos!!
I have some questions (very important for me) for you.
I have a New Roland Octapad and I would like to put a kick... I have two options, Yamaha KP65A and Roland KD8.
Which one would you buy?
Is kick yamaha compatible with Octapad Roland?
I would like you to help me.
Thank you and ALL THE BEST.
Honored to be the first comment, great video!
I am just about to buy My first electronic Drumkit, Im gonna buy a Used Roland TD 11k, with included Speaker, headphones, Drumthrone, and Kick Pedal for 400 Swiss Francs. Do you think thats a good Deal? I probably will Upgrade the rubber Pads later.
Is the kid 120 quiet? Especially for an apartment.
I have a Roland TD-6V, will a KD-10 or a KD-120 work on my Module. I’m pretty sure it will though I would ask.
Hi Justin, I have a Roland KD 85 bass drum and I just tore the head and am looking to replace it. Can you recommend a good solid 2 ply head that should last a good while? Thanks
I was going to buy a KVX but I already have a good acoustic bass drum, and buying a KV with the A22 will work out £530 ($740) cheaper... Noise isn’t an issue for me, but is the KD-220 honestly worth it for its “special shell that reduces resonance” or will I get an awesome TD-50 experience by converting my acoustic bass drum?
"...is the KD-220 honestly worth it for its “special shell that reduces resonance” No.
"...or will I get an awesome TD-50 experience by converting my acoustic bass drum?" Yes.
Hi Justin, I’ve been meaning to ask for months, what do you this is the essential EZX expansion pack for EZ drummer 2? I’m using the pre-loaded standards and I’m looking for something just better. I know you’ll say it depends which genre, I’m a beginner drummer just looking to play along to my favourite Pearl Jam and Chili Peppers songs. Thanks
Loved this video
do you or anyone happen to know if the KD-8 will work on a TD-1k?
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