Almost exactly 1 year ago I bought my very first drum set. An acoustic set. Several months later I bought this. I barely touch the acoustic set anymore but I should probably spend more time on it. I did upgrade the rack to the one the td-27 comes with. It's way more adjustable. I also bought a bigger floor tom, put a lemon splash on it and put my snare on a stand. Granted I'm just a newb but I didn't care for the sounds of the kits (most of them anyway) so I bought a kit from the Edrum Workshop. They sound way better! Now that's it's been about 1 year and I'm enjoying learning (mostly lol) I kinda wish I would've got the the td-27 for the digital hihat, snare and ride. Maybe someday I'll update but for now it's a perfect kit for a beginner.
Excellent review and I'm totally with you as far as the TD 17 KVX being a sweet spot in the current Roland lineup. I gig w a VAD 306 w a TD 27 digital pack upgrade - fortunate to have two of these kits, one for home, practice, recording, and one for gigging and absolute love them, but the TD 17 KVX is the next best thing even without the digital pad capabilities 👏
I’ve been playing/recording with this kit for a couple of years now and have generally been pleased with it. I trigger EZD3 when I record for the better sounds and while there is essentially no noticeable latency, the response does suffer a bit when not using the module’s internal sounds. My biggest gripe has been not being able to calibrate the high hat properly, as it doesn’t stay calibrated very long, and is generally a pain in the butt. I also loathe the feel of the kick drum surface. For those reasons, I am gearing up to go “all in” on the Roland V-713. I want the digital snare, high-hat and multiple outs on the module. Thank you for the outstanding video. Will like and subscribe.
Thank you so much! 🙏 I do have to fiddle with the hi hat occasionally to keep it how I want it. I use the calibration process in the module to get it pretty close and then I fine tune it with the upper clutch. Hasn't driven me too crazy... yet lol Have you looked into Superior Drummer? Different midi velocities trigger different samples altogether...like there are multiple sounds at different velocities. I think you'll find better resolution and nuance in Superior Drummer! 😉 🥁 🤘
I would have gotten the 17 if I had known 10% of what I know now. I bought the 07 about 6 months ago and it will last me for life but it's still more like a toy if you're intermediate or higher.
The TD-07 looks good for the money. I would get that over any other brand at that price. Plus you saved a grand that you can put into other gear! You can also expand your sounds a lot with midi and vst software like Superior Drummer 😉 When I had my last kit, all I cared about was using the midi signal to trigger SD on my computer. And you can always sell it and level up eventually 🥁🤘
Great video! You can't go wrong with the Td 17! Ive had mine since they first came out, and since then I converted it to acoustic look, maxed out the pads with splitter cables, and its awesome, i never get bored with it as the possibilities are endless with being able to add samples, and i haven't even tried using vst yet, im a total technophobe,(old guy here) but i have a friend that is willing to help me set it up,but i don't see myself needing anything other than this awesome module! Thank you for the video!
That’s awesome! You’ve really made it your own. It's an outstanding kit with lots of possibilities. Glad you enjoy the video 🤘 Getting into VST isn't too tricky and it opens up an even bigger world of sounds and flexibility. USB cable to the computer and then you can play or record midi data so you can change your sound anytime in the future. Superior Drummer is my favorite 😉 How's the kit holding up for you? Anything wear out on you yet? 🥁 🤘
@skiddleberry I basically just have the module, cos I converted the og pads to acoustic, but I've never had any issues with the og pads,as far as the module, I've added lots of wav samples, never had any problems, the power block came unplugged one day and I panicked ,thinking something happened to the module, but it was fine 🙂, so I put a piece of gorilla tape on the block where it connects. If u haven't done it already, I recommend lemon cymbals, they are great at a great price, and they hold up well, I sold all my Roland cymbals and replaced em with lemon cymbals
@mikeydreadmastalski4345 interesting, I haven't run across Lemon yet. Maybe I'll check one out for reviewing purposes. I'm hoping the Roland cymbals last me for years 🤞 Glad to hear your module is going strong! That's why I invested in these 🥁🤘
@skiddleberry The roland cymbals will definitely last, I just didn't like the look of the Cy 8 cymbals, I slowly replaced them with the Lemons, they make an 18 inch ride,and cool little 9 inch splashes,plus they just came out with a 20 inch ride too
great video, you deserve more subscribers! i have a question, would you recommend the KVX2 for a student? i’ve been playing for about 3 years now and i’m at an intermediate level.
You're too kind 🙏 Thank you! Yes I would absolutely recommend for a student. It's a solid kit and there are some useful practice features built in. It might be a big investment for someone just checking out drums to see if they like them. But if you're already into it and if it's in your budget, go for it! 🥁 🤘
Excellent video. I actually just put my KVX2 together last night. I've only played a couple hours on it but I can already tell it was worth the extra money. It's very responsive, the onboard sounds are surprisingly good, and having "real" hi hat control with the VH10 is well worth paying a little extra over the KV model. My only issue is that the bell of my ride cymbal feels a bit tricky to trigger reliably but I probably just need to improve my accuracy.
Thanks so much 🙏 Great to hear your happy with it! I agree, the hi hat alone is worth the extra money. I can't remember if I had to adjust to the bell, but I'm sure you'll find the spot and muscle memory will kick in 🥁🤘
I've been playing on mine for a while now. The bell is tricky but just practice. I used to be about 60% when striking the bell and now I'm up to 90% haha.
Please help me out - my Amazon seller was a freaking scammer and he sold me a KV2 pretending it was a KVX2 (he used images of the upgraded model - that mf…). Now I’m stuck with a KV2 (I live in Mexico, where Roland is pretty much non-existent and therefore returning the kit would be a pita) unless I wanna spend a lot of money just to resolve the freaking scam-seller’s “play”. I ended up buying a VH-10 separately cause I figured it would be better to just “complete” my KVX2 kit (also bought a lemon cymbal to make up for the missing one), but I CANNOT connect it to the TD-17. I am surprised no one has ever brought this up - at least not anywhere where I have been looking for an answer to this - how can you connect the VH-10 to the TD-17 of a KV2 when the Hi-Hat Control Cable of the KV2 is MONO and the VH-10 REQUIERES a STEREO hi-hat control cable? What can I do now? Do I need to buy a KVX2 “snake cable” so that (hopefully) it includes a STEREO hi-hat control cable? Cause I even tried connecting the hi-hat control with a stereo cable to an auxiliary trigger but it was impossible to have it properly configured inside the TD-17 (it’s like it’s not even connected regardless of the settings). I am so frustrated; I’ve spent over 2k on this and realistically returning any of it will only land me additional costs + the loss of the actual drum kit. I need to FIX this issue, not replace my drum kit… If anybody can help me out I’ll be eternally grateful to you.
Thanks for the video on the Roland TD-17KVX2 V! I was going back and forth between the Roland and Yamaha, and your video really helped me decide on the Roland. I have not played in 20 years, and I am looking forward to getting back into playing! If you have any recommendations on accessories needed for this kit, I am all ears! Thanks again!
Glad it helped you decide! It's a great kit to get back into it with. DW makes great hardware, so any one of their hi hat stands. They make great kick pedals too. I've been enjoying my Tama kick pedal lately - here's more on that - ua-cam.com/video/Q9u4X0N2O80/v-deo.htmlsi=SlT9Um8B3t1Vonzv For the throne, just get something durable and comfortable. I've got lots of lessons on my channel too if you want a refresher 😉 - enjoy! 🥁🤘
Thanks so much! Congrats on the kit. I just used the included hardware to mount the module... it's attached to a clamp with the plastic post that snaps into the bottom of the module. I like mine to the right and below my hi hat and behind left of the snare 🥁🤘
great review. However, I have one question. What to get if you want the best VST triggering experience? Is there anything that can beat the new td 713/716 in terms of dynamic and sounds? The VST sounds are for sure better, but I dont know how the dynamics are in triggering versus a new flagship module? I mean if you use edrums only at home, what would be the best setup? 713 are over 6k. For half the price you can get a good soundcard or a midi i/o device, a computer and a mid e-kit like the TD17. But I am asking myself, even with all this hardware can you reach the dynamics of the new 716? Maybe is the best thing to get the digital hi-hat and digital snare separetely? I dont need a big kit. Only a small bop kit.
I use Superior Drummer 3 software, which cost me about $400. Expansion packs are available, but I've been perfectly happy with the core pack. Superior drummer, in my opinion, provides top-notch professional grade sounds. They are some of the best drums recorded with the best microphones by some great sound engineers in some of the best studios in the world. As far as dynamics go, there are separate samples for different velocities within Superior Drummer. That means that you don't get the same sample played back louder or softer depending on how hard you hit. You get different recorded samples of the drum being hit hard, soft and multiple points in between. There is also a full mixer and effects included within the software. SD can run in a DAW or as stand alone. I connect my TD-17 to my computer with a USB cable and trigger those sounds. I can play in real time with no discernible latency. When recording, I'm only tracking midi data so that allows me to change drum kits at any point after recording. Hopefully you have a computer you can connect to. It doesn't have to be a beast to record midi data. The on-board sounds on the TD-17 are great for playing in real time if you were to run into any latency issues. So that means my rig costs $2,000 for the TD-17 KVX2 and $400 for the software. For me, that's far more in my budget than $6000+ It's just two totally different budget worlds. I always aim for the best gear I can afford. The TD-713 & 716 look fantastic, and I'm sure if that's in your budget they are incredible. I haven't had the opportunity to play around with one. I'd certainly be up for reviewing one of those kits if one found it's way to me... Whaddya say Roland?? 😉 🥁 🤘
Thanks for answering my Rogers hi hat question and measuring the pad hole. Some thing else caught my attention. I've noticed that 90% of the people that have the Roland kit ....that the drums are low. They're playing the snare very low. I like your idea of the snare stand. But.... do the rest of the drums and cymbals sit a little too low? I had an alesis nitro for practicing, and I had to work up little extentions for the legs so the whole rack would sit higher. I did order the kit yesterday.....got it for $1499.
Nice! Congrats on the kit and that's a great deal 😁 I have my kit set up comfortably for me. Because the toms are so shallow, I'm able to get them lower than with my acoustic kit. It's an efficient set up that allows me to get at the toms and cymbals without reaching up high for them. Less arm travel allows me to play faster between drums 😉 Enjoy! 🥁 🤘
I have a Tama Speed Cobra 310 Double Pedal (There's a review on my channel). Those are the stock beaters that came with it. What did yours come with? That kit doesn't usually include a kick pedal. 🥁🤘
I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work to split a tom plugged into the auxiliary input... the splitting occurs at the pad rather than the module. I will test that to confirm. But yes, that would be four toms and if you split each rim off that would be four additional cymbals - or whatever you want to plug in there. Thanks for the great question! Glad you find the video useful 🥁🤘
I didn't have to dial anything in. I just have xstick enabled, put the butt of my stick on the head and rock the stick down to the rim for cross stick. Sometimes if I hit it too hard it will make the rim sound instead of cross stick. Do you get any sound at all when you hit the rim? 🥁🤘
this one looks pretty good but I think I am going to try to save a bit longer and shoot for the 27kv2. I intend to use it with software a lot of the time and the digital hat, snare, and ride seem like it'd be worth the extra grand
I’m thinking about purchasing the Roland TD17KV2, it’s around my budget. Would you recommend this one if you can’t spend the extra few hundred or the one you reviewed in the video? Also, do you think purchasing a warranty is worth it? I’ve seen many say it isn’t and you could just purchase the parts that need to be replaced. Great review btw!
If you can't swing the extra $ for the KVX2 I'd still recommend the KV2 over anything else. One of the main reasons I bought Roland is the rugged reliability of the kit and I did not purchase an extra warranty. No issues here! 🥁🤘
@ Awesome! And last question. What speakers would you recommend for these edrums? I’m looking for a speaker that’s good enough to be heard for one room.
@@thejournalist8091 unless I'm playing with other musicians, I always run closed back headphones or in ear monitors. Even if I'm going through a PA with a band, I still prefer to run in ear. Part of the original draw to electronic drums for me was to play without making noise any hour of the day or night. Plus I think they sound better straight into my ear. You're the second to ask that today, so maybe I'll explore that topic for a future video 🥁🤘
@@skiddleberryThanks again for the answer. Here’s some speakers I’m considering if it helps your future video: a. KRK Rokit 5 G4 $149 b. Mackie CR5-XBT $149 - $199 c. Yamaha HS5 $149 d. Behringer Truth b2031a speaker $169
Have you any experience/thoughts about the Alesis Strata Core vs the Roland TD-17 KVX2? I tried the Roland which was setup in Guitar Center and was impressed by its quality and playability vs the Alesis Nitro Pro I just purchased but, having tried a next level kit, I'm considering upgrading and wonder if the Strata core, being at roughly the same price point and a more recent kit might be a better choice.
The Alesis Strata Prime e-kit is the only Alesis e-kit I can recommend. The TD-17 kVX2 is a good e-kit, but Roland does make even better ones. Also, pole mounted snare drums suck. After a while of playing, the pole will dip down and no longer keep the snare up, so you may need a snare stand. For about the same money as the TD-17 KVX2, there are other brands I think are better, such as Efnote. The Efnote 3x is about the same price but has bigger 3 zone 360° triggering cymbals, 4 duel zone tom pads, and the snare is on a stand. The Efnote 3x also looks a bit more like a nicer e-kit. The overall playability is about the same, with the exception of the Efnote hi-hat being much better to play. Sadly, I do not think Roland makes the best e-kits anymore. Roland kits are generally smaller than the comparable competition, and other companies have better, more accustic, realistic, built-in sounds. I only recommend Roland for the VAD kits with the newly designed snare. Alesis is budget friendly, but most of their e-kits I would not recommend. ATV makes good kits, Efnote makes fantastic e-kits, and Pearl and Zildjian make excellent e-kits if you have the money.
A rugged, reliable, solid kit was at the top of my requirements. When I was shopping I did look at some of the higher-end Alesis kits, but in my opinion they looked like they were almost too good of a value - meaning that maybe they spent more money adding features rather than investing in the quality of the components. My previous kit was an Alesis Surge, and for the money I found it to be good. However the snare died on me twice in 2 years. I'm not saying that Alesis doesn't make good drum kits, I just have found Roland to be of much higher quality. That's my experience. Sounds like you already have noticed that with the Strata. I would imagine the same to be true for other Alesis kits, but I haven't played that particular one. Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions! 🥁🤘
I always thought it would look better if the wires ran inside the tubing to each drum or cymbal. Roland could make a 1/4 inch open slot on the tube, then it would be able to tuck the wires inside. Admittedly, I don't know if that would be possible. Just wondering.
Just measured the diameter of my stem and it's 7mm. I don't think you'd have any issues snugging down on a narrower stem with the upper cymbal hardware. The lower controller part slides over the stem and sits on the base where the lower hat cymbal would be. I don't think it would be bad to have some play around the stem there. Hope that helps! 🥁😉
I have a Roland TD-17KVX2 and FBT X Lite 115A Active Speaker because in Chile doesn import a roland speaker… with headphones audiotechnica works perfect but I am not satisfied with active speaker which do yo would recommend me?
I play with headphones or in ear monitors almost exclusively. When I jam with my band we run a full PA system, which would probably be too much for what you're looking for. Unfortunately I don't have any experience with a smaller speaker for the kit. Maybe some of our fellow drummers here have some good ideas?? 🥁🤘
I looked into getting the Roland TD-17 KVX2 but went with a different company instead. The Efnote 3x is about the same cost. The Efnote 3x has bigger tripple zone cymbals(2 16-inch crashes and an 18-inch ride), 2 10-inch rack toms, 2 12-inch floor toms, the snare is on a stand, and the hi-hat on a stand is much better functionality wise. Sadly, I do not think Roland is the best e-kit company anymore as other companies have better e-kits for about the same cost or less.
Interesting. I've never even heard of that company. I'll have to check that out. Thanks for sharing. FWIW I've been very pleased with the quality, feel and sound of the Roland kits I've used. 🥁🤘
Efnote is the new top tier IMO, but it's super limited. It's got some of the best high rez samples but with roland you get more. It's not like efnote is that much better but all their stuff, even the lowest tier, is the quality of Roland's best.
Please help me out (and sorry for the spam as I’ve already posted this as a reply to someone’s comment) - my Amazon seller was a freaking scammer and he sold me a KV2 pretending it was a KVX2 (he used images of the upgraded model - that mf…). Now I’m stuck with a KV2 (I live in Mexico, where Roland is pretty much non-existent and therefore returning the kit would be a pita) unless I wanna spend a lot of money just to resolve the freaking scam-seller’s “play”. I ended up buying a VH-10 separately cause I figured it would be better to just “complete” my KVX2 kit (also bought a lemon cymbal to make up for the missing one), but I CANNOT connect it to the TD-17. I am surprised no one has ever brought this up - at least not anywhere where I have been looking for an answer to this - how can you connect the VH-10 to the TD-17 of a KV2 when the Hi-Hat Control Cable of the KV2 is MONO and the VH-10 REQUIERES a STEREO hi-hat control cable? What can I do now? Do I need to buy a KVX2 “snake cable” so that (hopefully) it includes a STEREO hi-hat control cable? Cause I even tried connecting the hi-hat control with a stereo cable to an auxiliary trigger but it was impossible to have it properly configured inside the TD-17 (it’s like it’s not even connected regardless of the settings). I am so frustrated; I’ve spent over 2k on this and realistically returning any of it will only land me additional costs + the loss of the actual drum kit. I need to FIX this issue, not replace my drum kit… If anybody can help me out I’ll be eternally grateful to you.
I'm sorry that happened! 😡 It sounds like you're thinking of all the things I would try. And I think that getting a KVX2 snake would be the solution. Both kits use the same td17 module, so I think the KVX2 snake would enable the VH-10 controller to function properly. Have you reached out to Roland support? They should at least be able to communicate with you to find the right solution. I'm sure there is a way through it and I think it's the snake. And once you get it working you'll love the VH-10 and you'll have a cy5 for another cymbal. I'll keep thinking on it too and let you know if I find anything. Hang in there! 🥁🤘
@ thanks so much brother - if you can confirm whether your hi-hat controller is a stereo cable or not (the one coming off “of the snake”) I would really appreciate it - as this would certainly clear some doubts (I am sure mine is MONO, only a “black line” across the plug). Thanks for taking the time to reply I seriously appreciate it 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Also, talk with someone at Sweetwater. It looks like they sell several cable snakes and they should be able to figure out which one works. They stand behind their sales really well too. 🥁🤘
@ thanks! I’ll definitely reach out - hopefully they can ship to Mexico! 🤞🏼🤜🏼🤛🏼 life saver (PS: your video is what made me pull the trigger on this kit and putting aside the BS, I do not regret it - what works as of today, works perfectly - can’t wait to have it fully setup!)
@enriquepageperez1305 Of course. I understand the frustration. Just went down to look at mine and it's a mono TS coming off the snake for the hi hat controller. I'll post the pick on my community tab for you. Another thing to check, Is there a setting on the module to tell it which hi hat you're using? 🥁🤘
More about the advantages of electronic drums here! 🥁 🤘 👉 ua-cam.com/video/-22v2AjWUlM/v-deo.htmlsi=KRxOQcCU5GclJoeP
Planning of buying my first e-drum kit. Good I stumble upon your video. By far the best demo, explanation and tips about the kit. Keep it up 🤘
@@jesvaldez235 Thank you so much! 🙏Glad it's helpful 🥁🤘
You really dig it to that bass drum pad. Seems way sturdy. I’m thinking about getting one
It works well and doesn't scoot around! 🥁🤘
Almost exactly 1 year ago I bought my very first drum set. An acoustic set. Several months later I bought this. I barely touch the acoustic set anymore but I should probably spend more time on it. I did upgrade the rack to the one the td-27 comes with. It's way more adjustable. I also bought a bigger floor tom, put a lemon splash on it and put my snare on a stand. Granted I'm just a newb but I didn't care for the sounds of the kits (most of them anyway) so I bought a kit from the Edrum Workshop. They sound way better! Now that's it's been about 1 year and I'm enjoying learning (mostly lol) I kinda wish I would've got the the td-27 for the digital hihat, snare and ride. Maybe someday I'll update but for now it's a perfect kit for a beginner.
Nice! Sounds like some nice upgrades. Glad you're enjoying the kit. Check out Superior Drummer software for even more incredible sounds 😉 🥁 🤘
Excellent review and I'm totally with you as far as the TD 17 KVX being a sweet spot in the current Roland lineup. I gig w a VAD 306 w a TD 27 digital pack upgrade - fortunate to have two of these kits, one for home, practice, recording, and one for gigging and absolute love them, but the TD 17 KVX is the next best thing even without the digital pad capabilities 👏
That's awesome you've got those setups! And that you're grateful for it 😉 They're all great kits. Rock on stikkman 🥁🤘
I’ve been playing/recording with this kit for a couple of years now and have generally been pleased with it. I trigger EZD3 when I record for the better sounds and while there is essentially no noticeable latency, the response does suffer a bit when not using the module’s internal sounds. My biggest gripe has been not being able to calibrate the high hat properly, as it doesn’t stay calibrated very long, and is generally a pain in the butt. I also loathe the feel of the kick drum surface. For those reasons, I am gearing up to go “all in” on the Roland V-713. I want the digital snare, high-hat and multiple outs on the module. Thank you for the outstanding video. Will like and subscribe.
Thank you so much! 🙏
I do have to fiddle with the hi hat occasionally to keep it how I want it. I use the calibration process in the module to get it pretty close and then I fine tune it with the upper clutch. Hasn't driven me too crazy... yet lol
Have you looked into Superior Drummer? Different midi velocities trigger different samples altogether...like there are multiple sounds at different velocities. I think you'll find better resolution and nuance in Superior Drummer! 😉 🥁 🤘
Yeah, man, great video. I appreciate your explaining the dual zone pads. I was looking at td07, but td17 seems to have the features I need.
My pleasure. Glad you find it useful. TD-17 kits are great! You won't be disappointed 🥁🤘
I would have gotten the 17 if I had known 10% of what I know now. I bought the 07 about 6 months ago and it will last me for life but it's still more like a toy if you're intermediate or higher.
The TD-07 looks good for the money. I would get that over any other brand at that price. Plus you saved a grand that you can put into other gear!
You can also expand your sounds a lot with midi and vst software like Superior Drummer 😉 When I had my last kit, all I cared about was using the midi signal to trigger SD on my computer. And you can always sell it and level up eventually 🥁🤘
Great review, will be saving for one of these, looks amazing
Glad you enjoyed it! I hope you can snag one soon, they're really great 🥁🤘
Great video! You can't go wrong with the Td 17! Ive had mine since they first came out, and since then I converted it to acoustic look, maxed out the pads with splitter cables, and its awesome, i never get bored with it as the possibilities are endless with being able to add samples, and i haven't even tried using vst yet, im a total technophobe,(old guy here) but i have a friend that is willing to help me set it up,but i don't see myself needing anything other than this awesome module! Thank you for the video!
That’s awesome! You’ve really made it your own. It's an outstanding kit with lots of possibilities. Glad you enjoy the video 🤘
Getting into VST isn't too tricky and it opens up an even bigger world of sounds and flexibility. USB cable to the computer and then you can play or record midi data so you can change your sound anytime in the future. Superior Drummer is my favorite 😉
How's the kit holding up for you? Anything wear out on you yet?
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@skiddleberry I basically just have the module, cos I converted the og pads to acoustic, but I've never had any issues with the og pads,as far as the module, I've added lots of wav samples, never had any problems, the power block came unplugged one day and I panicked ,thinking something happened to the module, but it was fine 🙂, so I put a piece of gorilla tape on the block where it connects. If u haven't done it already, I recommend lemon cymbals, they are great at a great price, and they hold up well, I sold all my Roland cymbals and replaced em with lemon cymbals
@mikeydreadmastalski4345 interesting, I haven't run across Lemon yet. Maybe I'll check one out for reviewing purposes. I'm hoping the Roland cymbals last me for years 🤞 Glad to hear your module is going strong! That's why I invested in these 🥁🤘
@skiddleberry
The roland cymbals will definitely last, I just didn't like the look of the Cy 8 cymbals, I slowly replaced them with the Lemons, they make an 18 inch ride,and cool little 9 inch splashes,plus they just came out with a 20 inch ride too
@mikeydreadmastalski4345 Nice! Thanks for sharing the info 🥁🤘
Excellent vid. Great job.
Thanks so much 🙏 My pleasure! 🥁🤘
Great review, Thanks.
My pleasure! Thank you 🥁🤘
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Great Review!! Thx!!
My pleasure! Thank YOU 🥁🤘
great video, you deserve more subscribers!
i have a question, would you recommend the KVX2 for a student? i’ve been playing for about 3 years now and i’m at an intermediate level.
You're too kind 🙏 Thank you!
Yes I would absolutely recommend for a student. It's a solid kit and there are some useful practice features built in. It might be a big investment for someone just checking out drums to see if they like them. But if you're already into it and if it's in your budget, go for it! 🥁 🤘
Excellent video. I actually just put my KVX2 together last night. I've only played a couple hours on it but I can already tell it was worth the extra money. It's very responsive, the onboard sounds are surprisingly good, and having "real" hi hat control with the VH10 is well worth paying a little extra over the KV model.
My only issue is that the bell of my ride cymbal feels a bit tricky to trigger reliably but I probably just need to improve my accuracy.
Thanks so much 🙏 Great to hear your happy with it! I agree, the hi hat alone is worth the extra money. I can't remember if I had to adjust to the bell, but I'm sure you'll find the spot and muscle memory will kick in 🥁🤘
I've been playing on mine for a while now. The bell is tricky but just practice. I used to be about 60% when striking the bell and now I'm up to 90% haha.
Please help me out - my Amazon seller was a freaking scammer and he sold me a KV2 pretending it was a KVX2 (he used images of the upgraded model - that mf…).
Now I’m stuck with a KV2 (I live in Mexico, where Roland is pretty much non-existent and therefore returning the kit would be a pita) unless I wanna spend a lot of money just to resolve the freaking scam-seller’s “play”.
I ended up buying a VH-10 separately cause I figured it would be better to just “complete” my KVX2 kit (also bought a lemon cymbal to make up for the missing one), but I CANNOT connect it to the TD-17.
I am surprised no one has ever brought this up - at least not anywhere where I have been looking for an answer to this - how can you connect the VH-10 to the TD-17 of a KV2 when the Hi-Hat Control Cable of the KV2 is MONO and the VH-10 REQUIERES a STEREO hi-hat control cable?
What can I do now? Do I need to buy a KVX2 “snake cable” so that (hopefully) it includes a STEREO hi-hat control cable? Cause I even tried connecting the hi-hat control with a stereo cable to an auxiliary trigger but it was impossible to have it properly configured inside the TD-17 (it’s like it’s not even connected regardless of the settings).
I am so frustrated; I’ve spent over 2k on this and realistically returning any of it will only land me additional costs + the loss of the actual drum kit. I need to FIX this issue, not replace my drum kit… If anybody can help me out I’ll be eternally grateful to you.
Great video, thanks.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching! 🥁🤘
Thanks for the video on the Roland TD-17KVX2 V! I was going back and forth between the Roland and Yamaha, and your video really helped me decide on the Roland. I have not played in 20 years, and I am looking forward to getting back into playing! If you have any recommendations on accessories needed for this kit, I am all ears! Thanks again!
Glad it helped you decide! It's a great kit to get back into it with. DW makes great hardware, so any one of their hi hat stands. They make great kick pedals too. I've been enjoying my Tama kick pedal lately - here's more on that - ua-cam.com/video/Q9u4X0N2O80/v-deo.htmlsi=SlT9Um8B3t1Vonzv
For the throne, just get something durable and comfortable.
I've got lots of lessons on my channel too if you want a refresher 😉
- enjoy! 🥁🤘
Awesome video I just got my kit a week ago and I’m loving it! How do you have the module mounted?
Thanks so much! Congrats on the kit. I just used the included hardware to mount the module... it's attached to a clamp with the plastic post that snaps into the bottom of the module. I like mine to the right and below my hi hat and behind left of the snare 🥁🤘
great review. However, I have one question. What to get if you want the best VST triggering experience? Is there anything that can beat the new td 713/716 in terms of dynamic and sounds? The VST sounds are for sure better, but I dont know how the dynamics are in triggering versus a new flagship module? I mean if you use edrums only at home, what would be the best setup? 713 are over 6k. For half the price you can get a good soundcard or a midi i/o device, a computer and a mid e-kit like the TD17. But I am asking myself, even with all this hardware can you reach the dynamics of the new 716?
Maybe is the best thing to get the digital hi-hat and digital snare separetely? I dont need a big kit. Only a small bop kit.
I use Superior Drummer 3 software, which cost me about $400. Expansion packs are available, but I've been perfectly happy with the core pack. Superior drummer, in my opinion, provides top-notch professional grade sounds. They are some of the best drums recorded with the best microphones by some great sound engineers in some of the best studios in the world. As far as dynamics go, there are separate samples for different velocities within Superior Drummer. That means that you don't get the same sample played back louder or softer depending on how hard you hit. You get different recorded samples of the drum being hit hard, soft and multiple points in between. There is also a full mixer and effects included within the software. SD can run in a DAW or as stand alone. I connect my TD-17 to my computer with a USB cable and trigger those sounds. I can play in real time with no discernible latency. When recording, I'm only tracking midi data so that allows me to change drum kits at any point after recording. Hopefully you have a computer you can connect to. It doesn't have to be a beast to record midi data. The on-board sounds on the TD-17 are great for playing in real time if you were to run into any latency issues.
So that means my rig costs $2,000 for the TD-17 KVX2 and $400 for the software. For me, that's far more in my budget than $6000+ It's just two totally different budget worlds. I always aim for the best gear I can afford. The TD-713 & 716 look fantastic, and I'm sure if that's in your budget they are incredible. I haven't had the opportunity to play around with one. I'd certainly be up for reviewing one of those kits if one found it's way to me... Whaddya say Roland?? 😉 🥁 🤘
Thanks for answering my Rogers hi hat question and measuring the pad hole.
Some thing else caught my attention.
I've noticed that 90% of the people that have the Roland kit ....that the drums are low. They're playing the snare very low.
I like your idea of the snare stand.
But.... do the rest of the drums and cymbals sit a little too low?
I had an alesis nitro for practicing, and I had to work up little extentions for the legs so the whole rack would sit higher.
I did order the kit yesterday.....got it for $1499.
Nice! Congrats on the kit and that's a great deal 😁 I have my kit set up comfortably for me. Because the toms are so shallow, I'm able to get them lower than with my acoustic kit. It's an efficient set up that allows me to get at the toms and cymbals without reaching up high for them. Less arm travel allows me to play faster between drums 😉 Enjoy! 🥁 🤘
I have same kit. I noticed you changed the kick beater. What do you use because the one that came with it sucks. Thx
I have a Tama Speed Cobra 310 Double Pedal (There's a review on my channel). Those are the stock beaters that came with it. What did yours come with? That kit doesn't usually include a kick pedal. 🥁🤘
If you use the aux port for another floor tom, could that be split as well? So 4 toms and 4 added cymbals? Thanks for the informative vid and tips
I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work to split a tom plugged into the auxiliary input... the splitting occurs at the pad rather than the module. I will test that to confirm. But yes, that would be four toms and if you split each rim off that would be four additional cymbals - or whatever you want to plug in there. Thanks for the great question! Glad you find the video useful 🥁🤘
You could try putting a dowel rod inside the snare mount.
Not sure exactly where you mean? 🥁🤘
I can't seem to get the snare cross stick to trigger, eventough I got xstick toggled on. How have you dialed in your settings?
I didn't have to dial anything in. I just have xstick enabled, put the butt of my stick on the head and rock the stick down to the rim for cross stick. Sometimes if I hit it too hard it will make the rim sound instead of cross stick. Do you get any sound at all when you hit the rim? 🥁🤘
this one looks pretty good but I think I am going to try to save a bit longer and shoot for the 27kv2. I intend to use it with software a lot of the time and the digital hat, snare, and ride seem like it'd be worth the extra grand
If you can swing it, go for it! I'm sure it's fantastic. Let us know how you like it 🥁🤘
I’m thinking about purchasing the Roland TD17KV2, it’s around my budget. Would you recommend this one if you can’t spend the extra few hundred or the one you reviewed in the video? Also, do you think purchasing a warranty is worth it? I’ve seen many say it isn’t and you could just purchase the parts that need to be replaced.
Great review btw!
If you can't swing the extra $ for the KVX2 I'd still recommend the KV2 over anything else.
One of the main reasons I bought Roland is the rugged reliability of the kit and I did not purchase an extra warranty. No issues here! 🥁🤘
@ Awesome! And last question. What speakers would you recommend for these edrums? I’m looking for a speaker that’s good enough to be heard for one room.
@@thejournalist8091 unless I'm playing with other musicians, I always run closed back headphones or in ear monitors. Even if I'm going through a PA with a band, I still prefer to run in ear.
Part of the original draw to electronic drums for me was to play without making noise any hour of the day or night. Plus I think they sound better straight into my ear. You're the second to ask that today, so maybe I'll explore that topic for a future video 🥁🤘
@@skiddleberryThanks again for the answer. Here’s some speakers I’m considering if it helps your future video:
a. KRK Rokit 5 G4 $149
b. Mackie CR5-XBT $149 - $199
c. Yamaha HS5 $149
d. Behringer Truth b2031a speaker $169
@thejournalist8091 interesting. I'll look into it. Thanks! 🥁🤘
Have you any experience/thoughts about the Alesis Strata Core vs the Roland TD-17 KVX2? I tried the Roland which was setup in Guitar Center and was impressed by its quality and playability vs the Alesis Nitro Pro I just purchased but, having tried a next level kit, I'm considering upgrading and wonder if the Strata core, being at roughly the same price point and a more recent kit might be a better choice.
The Alesis Strata Prime e-kit is the only Alesis e-kit I can recommend. The TD-17 kVX2 is a good e-kit, but Roland does make even better ones. Also, pole mounted snare drums suck. After a while of playing, the pole will dip down and no longer keep the snare up, so you may need a snare stand. For about the same money as the TD-17 KVX2, there are other brands I think are better, such as Efnote. The Efnote 3x is about the same price but has bigger 3 zone 360° triggering cymbals, 4 duel zone tom pads, and the snare is on a stand. The Efnote 3x also looks a bit more like a nicer e-kit. The overall playability is about the same, with the exception of the Efnote hi-hat being much better to play. Sadly, I do not think Roland makes the best e-kits anymore. Roland kits are generally smaller than the comparable competition, and other companies have better, more accustic, realistic, built-in sounds. I only recommend Roland for the VAD kits with the newly designed snare. Alesis is budget friendly, but most of their e-kits I would not recommend. ATV makes good kits, Efnote makes fantastic e-kits, and Pearl and Zildjian make excellent e-kits if you have the money.
A rugged, reliable, solid kit was at the top of my requirements. When I was shopping I did look at some of the higher-end Alesis kits, but in my opinion they looked like they were almost too good of a value - meaning that maybe they spent more money adding features rather than investing in the quality of the components. My previous kit was an Alesis Surge, and for the money I found it to be good. However the snare died on me twice in 2 years. I'm not saying that Alesis doesn't make good drum kits, I just have found Roland to be of much higher quality. That's my experience. Sounds like you already have noticed that with the Strata. I would imagine the same to be true for other Alesis kits, but I haven't played that particular one. Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions! 🥁🤘
I recommend Superior Drummer software for unbelievable sounds. The Roland kits have great sound to begin with, but I find SD to be next level 🥁🤘
Are you able to move one of the toms over to your left side to act as another small snare drum?
Sure! You can put anything wherever you like and assign any type of sound in the module to it 🥁🤘
@@skiddleberrythats amazing thats exactly what i was hoping. Definitely gonna start saving up. Thank you for the quick reply :)!
Of course! You'll love it 🥁🤘
I always thought it would look better if the wires ran inside the tubing to each drum or cymbal. Roland could make a 1/4 inch open slot on the tube, then it would be able to tuck the wires inside. Admittedly, I don't know if that would be possible. Just wondering.
That's a good idea! The wiring can get a bit unruly at times lol 🥁🤘
Will the hi hat work with an older rogers hi hat stand with the thinner stem?
I would think it would work fine. I'll take a closer look...
Just measured the diameter of my stem and it's 7mm. I don't think you'd have any issues snugging down on a narrower stem with the upper cymbal hardware. The lower controller part slides over the stem and sits on the base where the lower hat cymbal would be. I don't think it would be bad to have some play around the stem there. Hope that helps! 🥁😉
I have a Roland TD-17KVX2 and FBT X Lite 115A Active Speaker because in Chile doesn import a roland speaker… with headphones audiotechnica works perfect but I am not satisfied with active speaker which do yo would recommend me?
I play with headphones or in ear monitors almost exclusively. When I jam with my band we run a full PA system, which would probably be too much for what you're looking for. Unfortunately I don't have any experience with a smaller speaker for the kit. Maybe some of our fellow drummers here have some good ideas?? 🥁🤘
I looked into getting the Roland TD-17 KVX2 but went with a different company instead. The Efnote 3x is about the same cost. The Efnote 3x has bigger tripple zone cymbals(2 16-inch crashes and an 18-inch ride), 2 10-inch rack toms, 2 12-inch floor toms, the snare is on a stand, and the hi-hat on a stand is much better functionality wise. Sadly, I do not think Roland is the best e-kit company anymore as other companies have better e-kits for about the same cost or less.
Interesting. I've never even heard of that company. I'll have to check that out. Thanks for sharing.
FWIW I've been very pleased with the quality, feel and sound of the Roland kits I've used. 🥁🤘
Efnote is the new top tier IMO, but it's super limited. It's got some of the best high rez samples but with roland you get more. It's not like efnote is that much better but all their stuff, even the lowest tier, is the quality of Roland's best.
Best sounds I've heard are from Superior Drummer! 🥁🤘
Can I play with double bass?
Yes absolutely! There's some demo of that in the video 🥁🤘
I did hit that, I can only recommend except the tom pads, they are a crime agains humanity
What did you not like about the toms? 🥁🤘
@@skiddleberry the fact you HAVE to use proprietary drum heads is a no no for me.
Fair enough 🥁🤘
Please help me out (and sorry for the spam as I’ve already posted this as a reply to someone’s comment) - my Amazon seller was a freaking scammer and he sold me a KV2 pretending it was a KVX2 (he used images of the upgraded model - that mf…).
Now I’m stuck with a KV2 (I live in Mexico, where Roland is pretty much non-existent and therefore returning the kit would be a pita) unless I wanna spend a lot of money just to resolve the freaking scam-seller’s “play”.
I ended up buying a VH-10 separately cause I figured it would be better to just “complete” my KVX2 kit (also bought a lemon cymbal to make up for the missing one), but I CANNOT connect it to the TD-17.
I am surprised no one has ever brought this up - at least not anywhere where I have been looking for an answer to this - how can you connect the VH-10 to the TD-17 of a KV2 when the Hi-Hat Control Cable of the KV2 is MONO and the VH-10 REQUIERES a STEREO hi-hat control cable?
What can I do now? Do I need to buy a KVX2 “snake cable” so that (hopefully) it includes a STEREO hi-hat control cable? Cause I even tried connecting the hi-hat control with a stereo cable to an auxiliary trigger but it was impossible to have it properly configured inside the TD-17 (it’s like it’s not even connected regardless of the settings).
I am so frustrated; I’ve spent over 2k on this and realistically returning any of it will only land me additional costs + the loss of the actual drum kit. I need to FIX this issue, not replace my drum kit… If anybody can help me out I’ll be eternally grateful to you.
I'm sorry that happened! 😡 It sounds like you're thinking of all the things I would try. And I think that getting a KVX2 snake would be the solution. Both kits use the same td17 module, so I think the KVX2 snake would enable the VH-10 controller to function properly. Have you reached out to Roland support? They should at least be able to communicate with you to find the right solution. I'm sure there is a way through it and I think it's the snake. And once you get it working you'll love the VH-10 and you'll have a cy5 for another cymbal. I'll keep thinking on it too and let you know if I find anything. Hang in there! 🥁🤘
@ thanks so much brother - if you can confirm whether your hi-hat controller is a stereo cable or not (the one coming off “of the snake”) I would really appreciate it - as this would certainly clear some doubts (I am sure mine is MONO, only a “black line” across the plug).
Thanks for taking the time to reply I seriously appreciate it 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Also, talk with someone at Sweetwater. It looks like they sell several cable snakes and they should be able to figure out which one works. They stand behind their sales really well too. 🥁🤘
@ thanks! I’ll definitely reach out - hopefully they can ship to Mexico! 🤞🏼🤜🏼🤛🏼 life saver (PS: your video is what made me pull the trigger on this kit and putting aside the BS, I do not regret it - what works as of today, works perfectly - can’t wait to have it fully setup!)
@enriquepageperez1305 Of course. I understand the frustration. Just went down to look at mine and it's a mono TS coming off the snake for the hi hat controller. I'll post the pick on my community tab for you. Another thing to check, Is there a setting on the module to tell it which hi hat you're using? 🥁🤘