The Messy History of the "first" Super Sentai 🔍 Toku Misconceptions
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2022
- What is the first Super Sentai? Which shows are still considered Sentai? Which ones are no longer Sentai? All of these questions, and possibly more, are answered in this installment of Cammi's Circus! Join Co-Writer, Actor, and all around Contributor to the channel Glenn, as he clears the air on the fandom misconceptions surrounding the Super Sentai franchise.
MASSIVE Credit to 11sarge for the post used as the basis for this video:
www.reddit.com/r/supersentai/...
Clarification from Glenn: “While Ohranger’s anniversary celebration did treat all previous shows as part of a unified franchise, it’s worth noting that its anniversary logo simply referred to this franchise as the ‘Sentai Series’. The first time the re-unified franchise was called Super Sentai on-screen was in Timeranger’s anniversary special, as far as we can tell.”
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Like I said in the video, much of the reasoning behind these events is unknown and so our proposed answer as to why this all happened is itself speculation and could very well be proven wrong. It's still important to keep an open mind and remember the information passed around fandoms is very rarely bulletproof. - Glenn
Like I said in my tweets regarding the video, I've wanted to do more informative stuff surrounding Toku since this channel began, and I'm incredibly thankful to Glenn for putting work into such an incredible banger, and I'm honored to have helped him get it out the door! -C
This was a first for me trying to increase the speed of workflow on a video for the channel, it worked out, the video only ended up getting delayed so i could have a mental vacation after a nonstop year. Its been done for nearly a month! -Monica
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I'm happy that Goranger was considered Super Sentai at the beginning and again considered first now.
Reminds me that Zenkaiger literally personified the argument of the first Super Sentai with Zenkaiser (Goranger + JAKQ) vs Stacaesar (Battle Fever J)
happy anniversary
Zenkaiser isn’t based on JAKQ though
@@TheGeoXWar no, but Stacy is based on battle Japan. And even when the character was last minute created, that theory is more important lol
@@TheGeoXWar his color scheme is based on Big One from JAKQ tho
@@iMoevious No, his colour scheme is based off of the Gorangers' first Zord, Varidorin, as it is white with RBYPG colours, if it were big one, it'd be RBGP, which is not Zenkaiser's colour scheme. This is why Secchan looks like Varidorin and why the Geartlinger looks like Secchan.
The first tokusatsu show to be considered a "Sentai" and more specifically the first Super Sentai show was obviously Goranger, that's pretty obvious. But if you really want to look at the birth of Sentai as a concept, then you gotta look into not live-action toku shows, but into anime, and more specifically Tatsunoko's Gatchaman. Gatchaman was the real birth of Super Sentai as a premise for a TV show.
Actually you may also want to look at Shotaro Ishunomori's 1964 manga Cyborg 009, which clearly was also a base for the sentai's concept (while his other manga Skullman would serve as a base for Kamen Rider's concept).
Honestly yeah, being new to Sentai came with both of these, but ninja captor can now be just like akibaranger, canon in my heart alone
You did forget that the Ninja Captor was also brought up in an album too.
A very well researched and well presented video. The Ninja Captor part I already knew but there's a lot of other info here I'd only vaguely heard and forgotten or just straight up didn't know, and it really helps set the record straight on this long standing "fun fact" about the franchise that's clearly not so cut and dry
Great video! I already knew about the on and off status of Goranger and JAKQ but there were some details I hadn't heard about before this video, especially with Dairanger and it's good to know there's finally one concise video to bust every myth that's still spreading around.
This video was pretty good! I hope you do more on older toku like this
I dont think rights was the reason. Since Toei and Ishinomori were making Kamen Rider Black/RX together at the same time Liveman and Turboranger were airing. More likely it was just cause Toei loves the promotion that anniversaries give them. So by labeling Liveman as the 10th anniversary they got to milk the 10th anniversary again.
This was very educational. Well informed, well researched, and enlightening too!
Before this video, I had only seen the TurboRanger/Super Sentai crossover special. I didn't even realize Zenkaiger was giving a little nod to Ninja Captor.
Thank you for sharing this! 🙂
This was awesome! keep up the good work!
Fascinating video. Like many fans I had long just assumed the misconceptions you brought up to be true. Always good to learn when you're wrong
Rai (collectorshuki) recommended this video. This was a great video! More Sentai or Toku videos plz
This was a great video! Definitely looking forward to more!
Learned something new despite this being my 10th year of following Sentai "live". Always knew fact that Goranger & JAKQ weren't acknowledged in Turboranger but never knew the reason why really. Interesting video
that is a good and complete documentation about Sentai heroes , thanks a lot , well done !!
Since 1995 Gorenger and JAKQ belong to it. Which makes no sense coz JAKQ and Gorenger Apparate de during the season 10 anniversary of Sentai.. They definitely belonged to it since 85-86 instead of 95
Thanks for this video I'm new to watching Sentai so I feel like I needed this lol
First sentai is technically Cyborg 009, also by Shotaro Ishinomori. Gatchaman would also count as it was 72
Oh I agreed, that would make Gatchaman's 1st American adaptation, Battle of the Planet, to be the "original" Mighty Morphin Power Rangers before MMPR became a thing!!!
gatchaman was made by tatsunoko pro, so it doesnt count
amazing video!
Great stuff, guys!
Awesome vid man!
Every fanfic writer has to be careful of stuff like this. Troper's also have a name for this. It's called Fanon. Facts that are taken as canon by fans that may or may not have any real basis in the source material.
Fantastic video!
excellent vid! :)
Enlightenment! lol.
That's why the numbers seems off to me at some point. Thanks for this video!
Great job Glen!
Why do you use the hard R on JAKQ
Man!! I didn't know anything about Ninja Captor. Looks like I need to download another series.
I would also suspect that rights issues probably was the reason why Battle Fever J was at the first Super Sentai series for a while as well. That said I'm just glad that GoRanger and JAKQ is now part of the franchise and was originally planned to be the first two Super Sentai series.
Man I didn't even know about that mini distribution problem in Sentai. Arigato Ishinomari
Godlike content!
My god this video is so damn good
I cant confirm what I'm about to post but... toy sales of older sentai series was selling better in the secondary market and is also a reason why it was retconned to be part of super sentai.... Some shows was redubbed or subbed in other territory so it had new audiences and the toy sales sold better in other reqion
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Even if Ninja Captor isn't a Super Sentai Series, I feel like it has an honorary status or something very technically correct. Even if it isn't a Super Sentai Series, it's still has the honorary status as a Super Sentai Series.
This. It seems to be in the same bubble as Akibaranger. It's a sentai, but not one in official canon.
If goranger and Jakq aren’t there official zenkaizer would look like starceaser and super hero senki would be called Kamen rider senki.
this is so true
I consider Spiderman to be essential viewing for anyone planning to watch every Sentai series, as it sprang from the same creative blend that went on to give us Battle Fever J and Denziman.
Now knowing that Ninja Captor came from another tributary in the Super Sentai river, I'll add it to my list.
I like to move like 4:08
I like to move like 4:08
I like to mooooooooove like 4:08
Jagger
a horror world where battle fever j is the first super sentai just watching them dancing on our graves
Good video in my reccomended.
You've convinced me.
🌟🌟 0:07
akibaranger season 2 also makes a ninja captor reference
good video
I just feel like gokaiger makes sense for Goranger just because of the desgins they look more like the sentai designs
No one ever brings up ultra force so I have never figured out where they sit in the history and it is impossible to research the show.
Any ideas?
Ninja Captor is in the same boat as Akibaranger, a sentai but not a canon one.
Ishomori allowed the Goranger and JAKO to be incorporated before he died.
“jacker” killed me💀
Great video!
I understood it all but someone tell me there's a infographic out there
Can you guys do a video on the history of Sentai and power rangers in Korea
yes
RW:talk about a view on Sentai History.😁
Wait, SupaidaMan is also a Super Sentai Show just without a Team ?
Question
What makes a show super sentai and why is ninja captor left out of the mix?
I got into a whole argument with someone on twitter over this. They claimed because Gorenger ran for 2 years, Zenkaiger couldn't be the 45th anniversary. Apparently the 2 year run proved Gorenger didn't count as super sentai
I think they were referring to the fact that, despite celebrating the 45th anniversary of Gorenger, Zenkaiger actually started 46 years after Gorenger aired. That actually isn't just due to Gorenger running for 2 years, though, it's due to Super Sentai taking a break in 1978 (between JAKQ and Battle Fever).
Under normal circumstances, Gorenger running for 2 years would have actually solved this problem - if Gorenger ran for 2 years and then there was no break in 1978, then the 45th series would start on the 45th anniversary year. You can see this exemplified with Heisei Kamen Rider - Decade was the 10th Heisei Rider and most people call it an anniversary series, but it in fact aired only 9 years after Kuuga.
Glad to know making battle fever j the first wasn’t a deliberate choice because if you ask me, it’s really weird to see battle fever j as the “first” sentai when they look like that when pretty much every successor Sentai takes hardly any design cues from them.
Bit battle fever j did have sentai in the title
why I like zenkaiser
Because they play homage to even ninja captor by hakaiser
staecasear = battle fever j / akiba ranger (my headcannon)
zekaiser (gorenger)
Just Listen to The Song Hero Getter Of Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger
Wow a whole minute in I was believing everything said…. I was fooled.
Ninja Captor !!!!!
Goranger
1:09 is this the sound effect of Ultraman Taro lol
It's not but now I can't stop hearing it too lol! -C
sorry lol ! :D
Saburo arasaka
Lol no, those firstt two are big misconceptions. Just watch the live action documentary drama about Ishimori Shotaro's mangaka journey until Toei commissioned him to create both Kamen Rider and Super Sentai.
Are you from Brazil?
I'm not, but another person who's working with the channel is! -C
@@cammiscircus6489 I realized by his accent, great video btw. One more sub!
@@Kirazz Thank you! Also Glenn's actually from Puerto Rico. The brazilian member is writing other stuff and was in the preview for this on twitter. They'll be doing the voice in a later video though! -C
I’ve been wondering about the Zyuranger episode of Akibaranger where powerful ranger is the Original, Sentai is a rip off and pre Gao series don’t exist, Shouldn’t Goranger and Jakq still exist as 2 of Shotaro’s Forgotten Work outside Kamen Rider since they weren’t officiall Sentai until Ohranger?
jakqer
. . . Why am I here?
Jaq A not Jacker 🤦♂️
discord invite expired
Akibaranger villain real?
Spider-Man the first mecha 🗿
Reddit is cringe
FAKE!!!!!!!!!!! STOP LYING
Cry
The hell?
i agree!!! WTF
Wth? What do you mean fake
Cry alot You Gungan
I absolutely love how you explain things then pretend to finished, only to give us a Million twists. I had to stop watching.
How about you start from the begining and get to the end? Instead of taking us through many different paths and confuse everyone.