Sony ZV-E10 II: The Disappointing Truth | An Honest Creator Review

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  • Опубліковано 29 лис 2024

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  • @jettschenker
    @jettschenker 17 днів тому +3

    I think high prices in Australia have to do with the countries import tariffs, not Sony.

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  16 днів тому +1

      Very smart mate, I didn't even think about this!

  • @smallbizdigitalmedia
    @smallbizdigitalmedia 3 місяці тому +4

    Video of the day for me. You may be angry but every point is valid and have helped me avoid this flop and consider the FX30 or even the A7Cii

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  3 місяці тому +1

      Hey mate, I appreciate that! Nice, both of those camera options are far superior IMO than the ZV-E10 II. Now you'll just have to weigh up APS-C cost (FX30) vs Full Frame cost (A7C-II)

  • @JonathanWillis
    @JonathanWillis 3 місяці тому +5

    Finally a video not sponsored by Sony 🙂The predictions are probably true, but then when my ZV-E10 breaks ill need another e-mount camera.
    The 10bit 4:2:2 isn't a huge reason, not enough people will know how to use it, and if you do, you'll buy a FX30.

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks mate 🙌
      Yeah, most UA-camrs and blogs creating content on cameras and/or tech these days aren't honest, since they'd rather maintain good relations for early access to new releases.
      FX30 would be the choice for highly professional video-production.
      A6700 would definitely be the choice for hybrid shooters and content creators (like myself)

  • @yomarcelojeje
    @yomarcelojeje Місяць тому +2

    I truly don't know wtf you're talking about. It's a camera aimed at videopgraphers (no viewfinder and mechanical shutter) with internal 10bit 4.2.2, quite less rolling shutter, better af than zv e10, and more... at just 30% more the price. What is there to complain about? The zv e10 is a good camera, great actually if all you want to do is blog, but if you want a bit more, the zv e10 ii is just what you need. Insane value for the price. So ppl, just be honest, if and only if you're gonna use the 10bit, go for the zv e10, or wait for the fuji coming out in november.

  • @tylerrayhughes
    @tylerrayhughes 10 днів тому +2

    I just bought my first camera this week! Went with the OG zve10

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  9 днів тому

      Legit the best purchase mate! I still use it till this date to shoot content for my business across socials, and for content across 3 UA-cam Channels!

  • @metrawhub2206
    @metrawhub2206 4 місяці тому +5

    Pffff I know this content will be bussin'. Someone who uses it every damn day. Now we know what's up. Great content BRO!

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      You’re a legend mate hahah
      Thanks for watching and supporting bro 💪

  • @DemiochMD
    @DemiochMD Місяць тому +4

    The only reason this happened is because Sony realized that they made the ZV-E10 Mark I too good for so cheap.

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, big facts mate! Mine is still going strong till now and I’ve been using it multiple times per day for over 1.5 years 🕺

  • @antsalmon
    @antsalmon 4 місяці тому +2

    My first thought when you said "the astronomical price" I thought ok but it has the FX30 sensor I mean it kinda makes sense. Then you mentioned the Australian price problem and then I understood. Totally different market. I also wonder how that adds up

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      Hahaha, yes, 'astronomical' relative to the other cameras in the line-up, and compared to competitors, in addition to the lauch of the Mark I too.
      (The Mark I current price is $890 brand new [Body], near-new second hand is $600-700 [Body]).
      But the price is only half of the argument too!

    • @antsalmon
      @antsalmon 4 місяці тому

      @@EdwardChlela I mean like you said for US market the price is $999 with the newer sensor it makes sense because the mark i uses a very old sensor. But for your market being 1800 USD that makes absolutely no sense I hope they listen to you all and fix the issue

  • @keimmatteocamarda9263
    @keimmatteocamarda9263 2 місяці тому +3

    I COMPLETELY AGREE, I UNFORTUNATELY SOLD MY ZVE10 AND I REGRET IT EVERY SINGLE DAY. NOW I USE THE ZV1F FOR UA-cam AND I HOPE TO BUY A6700, BECAUSE I THINK ZVE10 II IS JUST A BAD COPY OF FX30 AND I INVEST IN SONY IS LEAD BY THE IDEA OF PROGRESS AND NOT BY REDUNDENCY SO I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU BRO! 🔥

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  2 місяці тому

      Thanks mate! Damn, thanks unfortunate; I'm still using my ZVE10 for this channel and two other channels on youtube, as well as everything I do for my website and marketing!
      My next upgrade is going to be the A6700 most likely, so I'm looking forward to that!

  • @TravisVarga
    @TravisVarga 10 днів тому +1

    Smashed the sub, I like your rant haha

  • @noboshow
    @noboshow 15 днів тому +1

    hmm...so ding my podcast i currently have the Canon m50. I am looking to upgrade. zve10ii/a6700/fx30....which would you suggest for me and this channel? thanks.

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  15 днів тому +2

      An A6700 no questions asked! It's the best option by far IMO!

    • @noboshow
      @noboshow 15 днів тому

      @ I knew you were gonna say that lol OK, thank you very much. I appreciate the answer and reply.

    • @TravisVarga
      @TravisVarga 10 днів тому +1

      I’d agree - make sure you get the Ulanzi fan tho and plan to use it. I do that with the ZVE1

  • @АндрейСмолин-е9ю
    @АндрейСмолин-е9ю 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video as always. If possible, could you test the new Mark II kit lens with the original ZV-E10? I’m really curious about how the OSS + Active Mode works on the older camera model. The original kit lens doesn’t seem to provide the best results, and there’s not much info out there about how Sony’s new optical plus active stabilization works together in the updated kit lens. It would be awesome to see a comparison or review! Thanks a lot!

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      Thanks for the support as always legend!
      I currently only have access to the Mark 1 Kit Lens, I've legit never taken it out of the box hahah
      But when the Mark II lens kit becomes avaliable in physical stores, perhaps I could drop in to test it and let you know my thoughts vs the Mark I kit lens!

  • @geezsazsa
    @geezsazsa 4 місяці тому +1

    I feel you dude. ive been looking into upgrading from my canon m50 but after watching around 30 videos from content creators who have reviewed the mark 2, the i can't imagine that the extra €300-400 is worth (it in my use case) to get a more sensible menu.
    You seem to be saying the same.

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      I’m not too familiar with Canon cameras, but what I can say, is that-unless you personally feel you’ve outgrown your current camera and can no longer continue developing your craft and learning new intuitive ways of bringing your visions to life (with your current setup), then you should ideally work towards an upgrade/investment.
      However, make sure you select the correct option and don’t ‘downgrade’, which I believe (with my use case), I’ld be doing with the ZV-E10 Mark II (with both pricing, no mechanical shutter and no IBIS).
      I’ll be saving to invest into the A6700 (this’ll be a camera I use for the next 5 years-easily)

  • @trouble2732
    @trouble2732 4 місяці тому +1

    Idk seems like a good deal for someone like me. I wanted to get the a6700 solely for streaming long hours. Found out it overheats then decided to go with fx30. Now I'm looking at ZV-E10II. I would save 800 euros and get the same image quality. No IBIS kinda sucks though but most of the other features don't even matter to me. Thoughts? ZV-E10 II can do 4k 30 over USB.

    • @marcrodet4900
      @marcrodet4900 4 місяці тому +1

      will your camera need to move or would it be in a fixed/stable position?

    • @trouble2732
      @trouble2732 4 місяці тому

      @@marcrodet4900 95% of the time it would be on a tripod filming me

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      @trouble2732 - Hey legend, In my opinon, the decision I would make in your cicumstance (assuming the A6700 really is a $800 difference.. I would first look at the second-hand market, If I'm unable to find an A6700 for closer to a $400 euro difference, then I would get the ZVE10-II assuming you're only going to be using it for Live-Streaming in 4K and nothing else.
      In my opinon, however, the problem still lies in the fact that I believe the resell value for the ZVE10-II will be absolutely horrible. Whereas, the A6700 will be extremely value for years to come. In addition to that, since you're in a studio environment, the likelihood of the A6700, or any camera for that matter, overheating is very low. If it does become an issue, you could literally just buy a ulanzi fan for heaps cheap, and attach that to your camera to prevent overheating.
      When you travel, and as your develop in your content creation journey, you would've wished that you purchased the A6700 instead, since it can literally do everything. You could use it for photos, graphics, promotional content, vlogging, etc.. etc. Hence, for me, I'ld still purchase the A6700 (ideally on the second-hand market).

  • @Tonyrizk13
    @Tonyrizk13 Місяць тому +1

    I just picked up an open box zv-10 for $299. I didn’t see why having a new menu and type C port cost $700 more

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  Місяць тому +1

      What an absolute steal, the best decision easily! HAHAH, literally, the best way to put it 👌

  • @lakpatshering2142
    @lakpatshering2142 3 місяці тому +1

    i have the zv e10 mark 1 its a pretty good camera for its price range but as i was learnig filmaking and it was my first camera i have almost learned decent amount of filming and now i feel like i need that slogg 3 with 10 bit 4:2:2 color but this zv e10 mark 2 doesnt seem to be a good choice even if its 10 bit due to its price range i guess fx 30 or a 6700 will be better upgrade than zv e 10 mark 2

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  3 місяці тому

      I've personally never shot in S-LOG 3, but 4:2:2 is definitely needed if you're after that artistic style. With my ZV-E10 I shoot with HLG-3 (since its 8-bit).
      If you're looking to run and gun and looking for a film-making specific professional camera, then FX30 would probably be the choice for you.
      But even still, I believe the A6700 is still much better, as it's a hybrid shooter with the same sensor.

  • @keisone
    @keisone 4 місяці тому +1

    Fun review / rant lol.. I often use the Sony ZVE10, the main appeal of the MK2 for me is 10-Bit 4k60FPS.. but $1800 AUD is ridiculous

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      Thanks legend hahah!
      Exactly the same appeal and use case as myself; making the A6700 the only plausible upgrade option.
      Also, another point to mention, is that the resale value of this MK2 version will absolutely plummet, while the A6700 will retain its value for years to come.

  • @ajheigndrey
    @ajheigndrey 4 місяці тому +2

    That price was 100% absurd. There are only 3 reasonable upgrades that I can really consider, 4k 60 with better rolling shutter, battery, and dynamic range. With that price, i would rather buy fx30 just by adding a little bit more.
    If the intention was to vlog only or shoot a moment, the upgrades aren't worth it. Better stick with Mark 1.

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      100% mate! For me, the A6700 is the most sutiable, and considering it's the same price in australia (brand new), then purchasing that is the way to go. (The FX30 is an additional $600 or so).
      As for the those 3 reasonable upgrades, it's definitely individual dependent I'ld say, as neither of those change much for my use cases (maybe other than the dynamic range), on top of the addition of 10-bit 4:2:2.
      Mark I is it, up until I can invest in the A6700!

    • @m4rcin847
      @m4rcin847 Місяць тому

      Little bit more? XD Like 2 times more

  • @late_films
    @late_films 4 місяці тому +2

    I've had my Zv-e10 for almost a year now, learned alot with it. I have the same problem as you, kinda outgrew the camera. Im slowly saving up for a fx30, which is a better purchase in my opinion 😅✌️ Im a film student, so s-log 3, 10bit with ibis is kinda important 😂

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      Yes, we are in the same boat my friend!
      Nice mate; yes, the FX30 for professional use is undoubtedly the Goat, especially if you’re planning on running it for business purposes (with the dual SD slots and build-in fan for super long recording times, etc).
      10-bit and s-log 3 will be what I require soon too, when I’m able to also save up for the A6700, as I literally do this full time now, on top of my coaching and training business (using it multiple times per day-as discussed!)

    • @martinezq1
      @martinezq1 4 місяці тому

      take panasonic s9

  • @martinezq1
    @martinezq1 4 місяці тому +1

    Bravo. I have same thoughts. One problem i have is the size. If moving to a6700 propably i will go to full frame a7c2 or panasonic s9

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      Valid point!
      Do keep in mind, however, that everything full frame is significantly more expensive, especially the lenses 😮‍💨

  • @truevilmeow
    @truevilmeow 3 місяці тому +1

    10-bit 422 is an absolute minimum in 2024. But yeah you're right about the A6700 being better in around the same price. Here it's almost $900 more.

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  3 місяці тому

      Yeah agreed, hence how I've already "outgrew" this camera with regard to post-production.
      Oh wow, $900 is a pretty big difference.
      In Australia, I've recently seen listings for the A6700-cheaper than the cost of the ZV-E10 II. So, it's an absolute no brainer (in Australia especially) to go nowhere near it.

  • @investjournal
    @investjournal 3 місяці тому +1

    Being miles away from vlogging I find it weird how some youtubers call ZV-E10 II the best SONY cam of all times and others consider that very model a huge disappointment.

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  3 місяці тому +1

      Hey mate, generally speaking, the ZV-E10 II isn’t a “bad” camera per se, like, it’s obviously still viable if you purchase a gimbal. However, genuinely speaking, I don’t see a world where this camera should exist in 2024 with the current camera lineup, and where technology has advanced too (especially when considering the A6700 or Canon R7).
      Now, when you also factor in the absurd pricing of the camera, this is why (among other reasons discussed during the video) as to why I believe the ZV-E10 II will be one of the worst selling cameras (compared to it’s predecessor)

  • @PERIKLISTSINTZAS
    @PERIKLISTSINTZAS 2 місяці тому +1

    hmm here in Greece it is 1100 euros i am considering to buy ,i have lumix s5iix and a lumix s5 which is awsome but has bad autofocus and heavier and i am thinking of selling and buy zve10ii but now i willi rethink about the sony a6700

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  2 місяці тому +1

      Sony A6700 is definitely the way to go! It'll be the a camera you'll use for 5-10 years straight IMO!

  • @bill0g
    @bill0g 2 місяці тому +1

    I really don't get the Australian pricing. Why is it so expensive there? You usually have the same pricing as Canada ( CAD and AUD is usually 1:1). Here, the A6700 is C$400 more expensive. So the ZV E10 II is worth the consideration.

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  2 місяці тому

      I honestly couldn't tell you why there are such big price discrepancies between countries (despite conversion rates being cheaper).
      Currently, there's no other APS-C camera worth getting for hybrid, other than the A6700.

  • @srikaaant
    @srikaaant 2 місяці тому +1

    you've got to the point where they keep changing the techy part of the story and not giving a good great deal sooner

  • @mousse4444
    @mousse4444 4 місяці тому +1

    I live in France, and we have a 20 % tax on Sony cameras. The price here is the same as Australia. Don't forget that American prices are always quoted without sales tax. They can vary for each state but are usually around 8%. At B+H in New York, the camera with tax is around 1080 dollars . That's around 1650 Australian dollars.
    Taxes on cameras are always higher outside of the United States.

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      You’ve raised a really clever point here man, this didn’t even come to mind.
      But it’s strange that America don’t already include their Tax as part of the disclosed price (Like Australia), and also strange that the tax is different depending on which American state you’re from 🤔
      This I believe, could clear up the price discrepancy, but despite this, it doesn’t change the fact that the price itself is absurd!

    • @mousse4444
      @mousse4444 4 місяці тому +1

      @@EdwardChlela Relax, it's not all bad news. You're a lucky man, you get to live in Australia !!!!

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      Very wise mate! This is true, it's a blessing to be able to live in Australia!

  • @IgorNikonov47
    @IgorNikonov47 11 днів тому +1

    A6700 is $1700 now in JBHI

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  10 днів тому +1

      Yeah I seen it! That's an incredible price IMO!

    • @IgorNikonov47
      @IgorNikonov47 10 днів тому +1

      @@EdwardChlela Yes! I am thinking to buy it now in addition to my zve10

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  10 днів тому +1

      @igornikonov3187 - Sick combo! A6700 Main cam and ZVE-10 B cam!

  • @Mraz75
    @Mraz75 Місяць тому +1

    I agree😊

  • @ShaneConQueso
    @ShaneConQueso 4 місяці тому +2

    I put off buying a ZV-E10 for a full year now waiting for the ZV-E10 Mark II. I was expecting BIG Things. I've seen enough reviews now to go purchase..... (wait for it)... a SONY ZV-E10 (mark ONE). That's right. What a waste of a year.
    An ZV-E10 with upgraded lens > Sony ZV-E10 II

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому +2

      This is the perfect comment that outlines how everyone who was waiting for this camera is currently feeling; especially in your shoes where in your mind, you were making the correct financial decision by waiting for an “upgrade” (which never came to fruition).
      Take it from me mate, the ZV-E10 with the sigma trio (or in my case, the 16mm f1.4) is only 10% off of the current Mark II, with astronomical savings too.
      Every single video on my channel, including all the Thailand videos (which is why the majority of people purchase this camera for too-to travel with), were all shot with the same setup you see in this video!

  • @artbynaition1278
    @artbynaition1278 2 місяці тому +1

    Always wonder why they slept on the a6700 tbh

  • @NicoPeyper
    @NicoPeyper 4 місяці тому +2

    I have 2x Sony ZV-e10 cams, id rather buy 2 more than get the ZV-E10 II

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому +1

      The best decision! Facts man, I’ld legit rather invest in 3 ZV-E10 Mark I cameras, since that’s the same cost of 1 Mark II in AUD

    • @NicoPeyper
      @NicoPeyper 4 місяці тому +2

      @@EdwardChlela thats insane, i followed the rumors, i was kinda excited i really though we would get the fx30 in a zv-e10 price range as in my mind that would have been the natural advancement in tech everyone was waiting for in the price range.

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      Likewise, I followed the rumors for well over 6 months, hence why I'm so triggered in this video haha! I genuinely thought we'd get a 'baby' mix of the FX30 and A6700 too. Unfortunately, we got a camera that'll be redundant and forgotten by the end of the year.

  • @m4rcin847
    @m4rcin847 Місяць тому +2

    Yea, you are not a camera guy so you wont uderstand why 10bit is worth extra money. I my country it has similar price to A6400 (new) so not bad

  • @CRF250R1521
    @CRF250R1521 3 місяці тому +1

    Why is catalyst brows such a terrible thing to use? Its just an extra step and you save hundreds

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  3 місяці тому

      Three reasons:
      1- It’s just that, an extra step that you’ll have to do potentially thousands of times over the course of owning the camera which makes the time vs effort principle over the long term not worth it.
      2- Requires a decent editing/computer rig if you don’t want to be adding potentially an hour to your workflow (for slower laptops/computers)
      3- The free version removes the 10-bit and turns it back into 8-bit video
      4- I also just noticed that Catalyst Browse is a monthly/yearly subscription, so if you’re planning on owning your camera for more than a year, it’s definitely not worth it either (again, in my opinion)
      Hence why no IBIS in 2024 is a dealbreaker

    • @skepsys
      @skepsys 3 місяці тому +1

      ​​​​@@EdwardChlelai'll also add that shutter speed must be like at least some 250+, if im not mistaken, so u cant "properly" emulate the film look (where u would need a shutter speed of 50 if u film in 25fps). that alone to me is a turn off. i found out that even gyroflow (competitor to catalyst) has this similar issue as well..

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  3 місяці тому

      Oh, see, I didn't even know this! That's for added that mate-one more reason to avoid that 'extra step' and use either a gimbal, or camera with great IBIS

  • @Toast-and-biscuit
    @Toast-and-biscuit 4 місяці тому +1

    I bought the first version on sale since the second version came out, it's perfect."

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      The best decision to make mate! I approve 💪

  • @SalehKhanaVlogs
    @SalehKhanaVlogs 4 місяці тому +1

    the biggest flop was the dji action 2... but that's a whole different story

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      I didn’t follow that launch to be fair! I’ve never really been into action-cameras like go-pros or the dji version

    • @User_not_found_403
      @User_not_found_403 4 місяці тому

      @@EdwardChlela😊

  • @ultravaluetech24
    @ultravaluetech24 4 місяці тому +1

    Same, was waiting for this darn camera for many months & it's a fcking nonsense :D

    • @EdwardChlela
      @EdwardChlela  4 місяці тому

      I know right, it’s quite sad really 🤷‍♂️

  • @sagatshakur4720
    @sagatshakur4720 2 місяці тому +1

    Solid

  • @infiveg
    @infiveg 3 місяці тому +1

    Передам твоё видео другим россиянам. Спасибо за видео.

  • @jbx907
    @jbx907 4 місяці тому +1

    ❤❤❤

  • @mirandasworld
    @mirandasworld Місяць тому +2

    it doesnt even have soft skin like the previous model so definitely wont be buying it

  • @VikasBhardwaj003
    @VikasBhardwaj003 2 місяці тому +1

    ❤✨👍