Dave had an older lesbian couple call in and he helped them through their transition into retirement and transference of the boutique hotel they owned to the manager. He helped them figure out how to appraise the business and to make sure they weren't getting hosed in the process.
He's very adamant about people not sharing finances unless they are married. Even people in his groups or his "ish" groups warn people to keep their finances separate before marriage. I think that might have been the reason for the spouse/marriage comment. I think that's good advice no matter what your sexuality is.
Yayyy another fellow gay. Yeah, the show can be very inspiring, which is why it's such a shame to me that him and his platform don't respect gay people. :(
@@byenineto5226 , one thing is, ‘ not respecting gays’ and another is, ‘not agreeing with a gay lifestyle!’ At the end of the day, I think 🤔 if u talked to Dave about his views on homosexuality, you probably wouldn’t like how he feels about the subject; I think he’s Bible Belt all the way; if Dave got into that woman’s panties and fired her, that there tells you a lot!
@@byenineto5226 "respect" doesn't mean "agree with." You respect Muslims but I don't think you agree that Muhammad is a prophet and the Quran is the word of God. Not accepting their beliefs doesn't mean you hate them or disrespect them. The same applies to you.
@@byenineto5226 Dave does respects all people, he doesn't agree with your life path. And you don't agree with his. You are the only one that is making a big deal about it. I have several gay and lesbian friends. They don't act like you, they accept the difference and move on.
At the end of the day what does sexuality have to do with finance?? He went on to Dave’s show and expects Dave to conform to his way of life and then speak negative about Dave because of that. Dave has helped people from every background get out of debt and build wealth. I hate when people look to be victims please understand the the society we live in
It’s understandable, but he is right. You don’t see much representation in money talks, usually it’s seen as a old people thing to think about Finances. It’s not a point of attention, but it is nice to see someone from his background to want to make a topic like personal Finance a less taboo topic in the community. I think he helps represent a lot of younger people now a days, and on Dave’s part this a good way of attracting new viewers beyond the traditional conservative 35+ people he gets to call in.
“Character” contracts are common with “Christian” ventures. I don’t know why someone would be surprised that the organization would follow through with their backward beliefs. They literally advertise them. If she doesn’t like being fired for a stupid reason, she should work at a place that is not a cult and you won’t get fired for being a rational, normal person. I used to be a Christian. It’s totally a scam.
I’m yet to hear one gay couple call into Dave Ramsey’s show. Dave tends to go easy on the wife and hard on the husband. Would be intrigued to see his approach with a homosexual couple. Especially if one is a stay at home dad and the other goes out to work.
Kudos for you !! I love watching the DR show and I definitely since he is 100% pro man/ women relationship/ marriage. You now have a new subscriber 👍. Also, I get the decision about your friend not joining you on the scream. I’ve never seen a friend join anyone on the platform for the scream ! Who knows in the future , maybe your going to start a huge network and bring out thousands of lgbti community . I would love to do my scream on your show . Hey!!!
In this world, no one is perfect. Dave teaches about money as it is described in the Bible.He didn't steal a dime from you. He has simply blessed you. When We Don't Know What to post youtube Get Connected With Someone Who Cares and Wants to Talk About Whats Keeping You From Peace.
I've been looking for your channel because I saw you on Daves UA-cam channel. I'm happy to see that you paid off so much at such a young age!!!!! By the way I love the spreadsheet you utilized.
Oh my goodness thanks for putting in the effort to find me! Im honored you’d do that. Thanks for the warm wishes as well. It was hard work but it really (literally) pays off!!
I’m from that area near his office and Franklin, TN is not in the middle of nowhere 😂 His building is right off the interstate but believe it or not if you’re from TN or the south in general places like Franklin, TN are considered cities
Here is a thought for you: you come to a place that is not yours. You expect this place( the people) to go according to your desires. Now if the things way the other way around: someone was coming to your place and expected you would align to their whatever expectations. Even if it counters your beliefs. Would you treat them like you were treated at the Dave Ramsey show : with respect but not agreeing to all your expectations or would you align with all their expectations because it's what they want no matter what you want?
The big difference is a Christian's beliefs limits the rights of others who don't share those beliefs. Like if Christians had their way, gay marriage wouldn't be allowed. Most people who aren't religious don't want any Christian's rights limited, there's nothing they're looking to take away. So it's not the same thing. One side is saying "you shouldn't have what I have because of what I believe", the other side is saying "we disagree, but there's nothing I have that I don't want you to have". Christians unfortunately fall on the former.
I remember seeing this episode! I remember thinking you were cute and I was sure you were gay until they panned to your friend- then I felt sad! Anyway, I too listen to Dave Ramsay and he has definitely helped me stay debt free for a while now. But I’m glad you are speaking out about this because he probably doesn’t get it enough and I hope he sees this and makes some changes. Bravo to you for wanting to spread the word about financial health in our community!
Money and sexual preference are two different things. Everyone has a sex preference, we are all different. Different tastes in food, different ethnicity, so what is “ our people ?
She was fired because she and Chris Hogan were having an affair. An older lesbian couple called in and Dave called them fun and he was laughing with her and enjoyed the call.
He didn’t fire her for her having sex before marriage. He acknowledged the scandal and stated she was a temp at the job and her contract ended and wasn’t rehired.
@@rebeccasuraci7666 remember all the times y’all scream about how private companies can do what they want… u till it comes to something you care about.
If he wants to run his show as a Christian Financial show what’s wrong with that? There is a big difference in hating gays and not agreeing with the lifestyle. You seem to be a very smart young man! And Jesus love you!!
It is not a lifestyle, it is a part of their identity like their skin color. You can’t change that. Theologians disagree all the time about homosexuality in the Bible. Some are accepting and affirming and some aren’t. It’s complicated discussion and if they can’t figure it out what makes you think others know about the subject, and that they probably have not studied the Bible for decades of their lives. You make it seem like being gay is a choice when you say it is a lifestyle when it isn’t. Straight Christians wait until marriage but will eventually get to have a long committed and loving relationship with their lover. But gay people are not guaranteed that. It is just sad.
@@Magdalena287 Could it be that people are less afraid to come out than before? I grew up in a very homophobic European country in the 80s and the 90s. I came out to my friends as bi only 10 years ago when I moved to North America. I did it because I felt safe to do so.
@@Magdalena287 You're using the wrong word. It's not a "trend," it's become more accepted and therefore more people are open about it. There are just as many gay people today as there were 100 years ago, but the difference is the number of people who admit they are gay. It's not a choice. The scientific community all says homosexuality is natural, not chosen.
@@Smellanie4121 it may not be choice it may be the struggle that a person came with however it’s should be something to overcome not stay in the just like any other unnatural desire
Funny how any other religious belief gets a pass if they discriminate but every single time a Christian discriminates, they get gas lit and shamed for it.
Dave is a Christian and has a morality clause. Why would this lady seek employment with that company? FYI Suze Orman is a lesbian financial expert. She discusses money and not her sexuality.
If I walked into a business knowing it was gay, or lesbian owned I wouldn't think twice about seeing a rainbow flag outside. Sooo, walking up to.a Christian based business and seeing a Bible quote or cross shouldn't be a surprise 🤔 Also, there is not a Bible quote that says gay ppl are going to hell.
Jumping on this comment is the only way I can reply, but I want to point our that Dave says to assume 12% rate of return (you assumed 6%) and, do you really only make $24,000 a year (3600/.15=24000). I’m guessing you are planning on getting that income up significantly, and I’ll bet he is planning on that with his statement. Good luck!
Christy Wright is a star on the show as well as his own daughter.. your bias shows in an extreme way. It seems you went there with half good spirit and half looking for things to get mad about. It seems you were treated with the upmost respect and dignity. I am a long time listener of his and not a religious person. Also your investment calculation you flashed on the screen was assuming you only make 65k the rest of your life. Once you are debt free and mortgage free, like dave teaches, you can invest a WHOLE lot more than 15%. All while being outrageously generous towards other people with your giving.
You should get your facts straight before criticizing people. 1.) The woman was fired for violating the company’s code of conduct that she agreed to before taking a job at Ramsey Solutions. If she wanted to sleep around she shouldn’t of taken the job. 2.) There are two women that are “Ramsey Personalities”. Dave’s daughter Rachael Cruise and Kristi Wright. 3.) Chris Hogan, an African American man, was also a “Ramsey Personality”, until he was fired for violating the code of conduct for having an affair.
Anthony Oneal was a Ramsey personality. He now has his own UA-cam channel as well as a podcast. I really enjoy listening to him. You might want to check out his channel.
Natalie was your support. Nobody shares the stage with their support. Parents and friends are always on the side and given credit from there. They don't share the stage unless they share finances. Don't get upset about that. You chose to go and participate. If you choose not to read the room, that's on you. Do you not know about Christy Wright????
Good on you for being gay and into finance... the number 1 thing you can teach is that it does not matter! You can be a transgender gay black Muslim and you can follow the same steps as Dave Ramsey.
Congrats on being debt free! I hope your channel is successful!! I watch a lot of Financial UA-cam and there isn't a lot of LGBTQIA+ representation on here that I've seen so way to represent.
I’m glad you had a positive experience ♥️ I’m not gay or lesbian, but I understand why someone from the LGBTQIA+ community would want to be represented. It’s nice to see someone similar to you in this space. Congrats on being debt free!!!!
Ahh loved this video! So glad you talked about your experience with Ramsey and how they treated you. I’m happy it was mostly positive! And yeah totally agree how it sucks we don’t place enough emphasis on non-partner support :/ also as for Dave’s “you’ll have $20 mil” I noticed in your calculation you used 6%, which I personally think is a pretty good inflation adjusted return, but doesn’t Dave say average returns are like 12%? IMO that’s a bit optimistic but I wonder if the math works with his rate 🧐
So glad you liked! That’s a good point on his 12% standard. That lands me at just under 4 million at 65. Way better but 20 mil is still very inflated. We’ve been in a bear market for a loooong time, and I don’t think we can keep at 12% average for 40 years. I think his point was to say that to encourage me to keep going and make for a good show, but wanted to be a bit more realistic with my audience 😝
While 12% seems high today historically it's not. As far as having others share in the story of your success, my guess is that in the vast majority of cases that success is based in the individuals having a long term vested interest in the process, 20 years or more. Typically the only person you share intimate knowledge about you finances with is going to be a spouse. In fact I can't think of any instance of a caller or guest on a show where someone other than a spouse was part of the dialogue.
At the time you went on the show there were 2 female personalities Rachel Cruz ( his daughter) and Chrissy Wright. At present Chrissy has left and it looks like they are trying to bring in another woman. Also their entire platform is Christian based so I'm shocked that you were shocked.
Being Christian based doesn't mean you act differently to people who are homosexual though, no matter what you think of it. It's actually much more Christian to be able to rise above that and treat them equally. But I am Christian, although I have different views than many, so honestly I am not shocked that it would feel different in a Christian environment for somebody like him. It's an unfortunate reality.
I think that depends on what you mean by "act differently". In fact some homosexual men and women want you to act differently because they are homosexual. It one of the reasons we have the whole debate about pronouns. Beyond that he can have his opinion about how the segment was run but the show gets the last word and they really don't have to explain the reasoning behind their decision. As for the ratio of men and women doing particular jobs, there are individual stories behind how each job was filled. I don't think you can make any definitive judgements about hiring practices based on some personal idea of quota for which gender has which job.
With all due respect as an evangelical Christian myself, I don’t agree with your ways, however I respect them and don’t think they make you less of a person or that you should be discriminated against. With that being said, they know what they sign up for when they apply to work for Dave. If you’re not able to live by the standards he sets out then work somewhere else. Enjoyed the video though.
I’ve kinda gotten into his show a lot this year, and almost all of the debt-free screams are married straight young couples, older couples, and a few singles. It left me wondering if they feel their plan is for everyone, if they’d welcome a married gay couple with kids on their show. So it’s cool to see they did actually have one gay man that I know so far. They do have one “personality” who’s a woman who isn’t Dave’s daughter, Jade Warshaw. And so for their regular personalities I think it’s an even 2 men and 2 women, they just sometimes rotate around so you may not know them all.
Another thing I notice is they reference the “guys in the booth” a lot, so it’s not all just women making it run. But I’ve also never been there to see behind the scenes. I also just noticed this video is from 2 years ago, so maybe the personality lineup was different then, and what it looks like to me as a more recent viewer isn't what you experienced.
I was sort of with you until the following statement: "Socialists need to be stopped... isn't really necessary in the personal finance space." There IS NO PERSONAL FINANCE under socialism. That's the entire point of the ideology.
It’s Dave’s show, he makes the rules. If you don’t like them you didn’t have to show up. Yes it’s a Christian show. People have been rejecting Christ for 2000 years, much to their detriment.
I called in last week and discussed dealing with my husband's recent diagnoses. My call starts at 32:10 ua-cam.com/video/GZFFmAUsbrI/v-deo.html Now I realize that Dave wasn't the host that day and the co-hosts were from a younger demographic then some of the Ramsey personalities so that might have had something to do with their reaction or lack of to me saying "my husband". Also John is a trained counselor and has addressed LBGT issues on his own show.
The woman was fired for breaking a policy that she agreed to before beginning her employment. Everyone knows Dave is religious. You want people to be okay with your life choices yet you bash Dave for his. The hypocrisy runs deep.
It's his business and his show. Don't like it, don't watch or work for him. Nobody important cares. He will still be rich and complainers will continue to complain. At anytime you could of got back in your car and go home.
Don’t go to a Christian show if Christianity makes you uncomfortable. Muslims are much worse to gays but I bet you wouldn’t tell the world a Muslim made you uncomfortable with an Islamic quote. Point is get out of identity politics and also being gay shouldn’t be your defining attribute.
@@khalidalharthi6139 Obsessed is a bit strong, but I would say yes I am an advocate for diversity because for a very long time the personal finance community has been the domain of certain people who because of their lived experience often don't think or talk about aspects of finance that might affect others (eg. costs of adopting children for same sex couples, costs making a home handicapped accessible for the disabled, paying zakat for Muslim families, etc.) They're not bad people, but we all come with our priors. For instance I'm sure Trey doesn't spend a lot of time thinking about the costs of birth control, or hormone treatment for perimenopausal women. It's not a part of his lived experience. Evidence suggests representation of the (trigger warning) diversity of society makes it more likely that the message will sink in, particularly in the community represented by the speaker. In this case 41% of LGBT households say they are "struggling to make ends meet" compared to 27% of people in general. So yeah, voices like these are needed.
Congratulations on your Debt Free Scream! But being gay doesn't have a damn thing to do with personal finance, just like me being a straight, white, married, small L libertarian has nothing to do with personal finance. Mastering one's finances are 80% about behaving with money and 20% money smarts.
Hey bro, love the channel! I liked and joined the Byenineto5 family! Loved the part when you said im a gay man... GAAAAAAAYYYYY, lol I couldn't stop laughing lol... Congrats on becoming debt free my man, super inspiring for everyone out there!
It sounds like generally things went great! I am happy, too. It was a bit weird they didn’t let Natalie on the show or at least be referenced. Our support systems can all look quite different!
I like Dave Ramsey to a degree. His basic advice is very good, especially if you need discipline and have bad financial habits. I think Ramsey can be helpful in these instances. I agree with Dave not allowing the girl on. His show has a formula and it’s geared around couples who save and follow his steps. Having a person who was not involved in the day to day budgeting, but instead was a support system, is off brand for the show’s formula. On a final note. I think Dave is old fashioned and clearly religious. I think he figures most people, gay or straight, strive to get married and have a family, so that probably came from an honest place, or at the worst, was just a preprogrammed response based on having ending that segment 10,000 times. Great story. You’re very well spoken and I think you will do fine going forward, thanks for sharing.
I actually totally understand them saying that Natalie could only come on if she was married to you. A lot of the debt free screams feature husbands and wives. They are very strong Christians at Dave Ramsey and feel very strongly about marriage, it just makes sense.
You got a subscriber I love your personal take on the gravity of the situation, plus being gay myself and Focusing on finances is some thing that I see a lot of other gays not focus on its mostly spend spend spend mentality they never save or invest; learning different healthy habits that you clearly do have, that I admire and seek. 🐾🙏
Dave has the right to run his business as religious as possible. I promise you when you are employed by Dave Ramsey, you sign an employment contract, this includes behavioral standards. You can disagree all you like, Dave believe’s what he believes, and that is ok, you don’t have to like it.
Thank you so much for representing on Dave Ramsey! My wife and I have been following his plan for the past year or so and we are so disappointed of the lack of diversity. I’ve found a ton of benefit from his teachings but I do feel icky continuing to follow his plan knowing his beliefs. Like you, I think we will look for another personal finance pro to follow who is lgbt inclusive.
Thanks for the response Kira!! It’s such a shame bc hes doing good work but has such an awful philosophy 😩 I’m sure you’ll find the right fit that’ll inspire you even more 💪
Bruh you said “gaaaaaaaay” you funny. Anyway did you not know that Dave actually built FPU the baby steps and philosophy on principles he got from the Bible? It’s not like he came up with the concepts and then used scripture. Also, he tells all young people about getting married and etc. if you were the only one he ever told that too. Then maybe I would see how that’s awkward. But I’ve heard him say that to many people.
Interesting perspective. I think you read too much into the experience. The Ramsey organization is very clear in their beliefs so nothing should have been a surprise with the Christian background and conservative business philosophy. I think Ramsey was right in $20mil net worth given your starting age. Of course, he is taking in assumptions about your starting place and your earning potential through your life but $20mil is an easy goal.
Keep it up bro!! It’s awesome to see everyone beginning to take control of their life and money, and why wouldn’t gay men take care of their finances? But ur right! I never see any gay finance people on UA-cam or anything
I dont go around everywhere I go telling people that I'm straight because that's my private business and they didnt ask and dont care.Some day gay folks will realize this.YOU are weird for forcing yourself and your agenda on others. Dave Ramseys show is HIS show not yours!.
So you're mad that you didn't get enough free stuff from being on the show and that they wouldn't let you promote your UA-cam channel on his hundred million dollar platform?
I strongly believe that we can achieve near real-time communication from vast distances using quantum entanglement. The question I have is: what is a woman?
I wasn't clear from what you said. Did they know you were gay? Did you mention it to anyone? Because the vibe I get is that Dave thinks that's a sin and wouldn't want you on his show if he knew. The fact he mentioned marriage and kids suggests he didn't know.
There’s more to life than embracing to everybody that you’re gay. You’re gay and I have no problem with that but most of us are tired of Obsession of the focusing on sexual orientation or the pigment of someone’s skin. For example if you’ve ever watched HGTV’s host on “My Lottery Dream House” David is clearly gay but doesn’t come off as whiny or victimized. It’s a great show and he’s a great host that happens to be gay.
I feel bad for her. But at the end of the day she said of the contract. To follow the core value of the company. She knew what she was getting her self into
So if the woman who got pregnant before marriage that he fired had an abortion and never told anyone...she'd still be working there. Great message Dave! There's also something about understanding and forgiveness and not casting the first stone embedded somewhere in Christianity I think...
Glad you were on the show and got treated fairly well! I am a liberal DR follower and some of his comments really aggravate me sometimes. He's gotten even worse lately and I stopped coaching and listening to his show. He did improve my financial situation and I want EVERYONE to experience that, but his "moral" won't allow a space for everyone. I wish there's an inclusive DR somewhere!
Dave has had numerous gay couples call in and they get advice like anyone else.Nothing wierd.Actually you're weird thinking that" everything is wierd". Also your visit has nothing to do with another womans firing Its not your business.
“Bitch work?!?” When I started in media production there were precious few women in it. I am very glad to hear that he hires women for media production! Proud to hear it. Not everyone has a desire to be in front of the microphone or camera. If you have been listening to Dave Ramsey for any length of time, none of your experience should surprise you. His program is very much geared toward married couples. I’ve been through Financial Peace University twice, once as a single person, and once with my fiancé. It’s a world of difference. I actually would not recommend it for a single person.
As I listened, I think he was stretching for something to criticize. If he had watched a lot, then he'd know that Christy and his daughter are on the show with him and it's called "The Dave Ramsey" Show or maybe now the "the Ramsey Show" - and he started it - it really revolves/d around him - and he's a man. The fact that he hires a lot of women should be a good thing. I actually thought the things he thought were criticisms were actually good - like "But it was so Christian" and all the women running the machines and such. A true compliment to Dave's philosophy and creed.
Which day did you do your debt free scream? I would love to find that podcast episode or video to actually listen/see it. I stopped listening to the show because I too started have reservations about some of Dave’s words and actions, but I would love to hear your segment.
Dave and his crew have their beliefs, you have yours. They are not going to gel. People have different points of view. Dave's contract with his employees states his beliefs. He didn't like her getting pregnant. He owns the Corp!!! His rules!
Thanks for sharing your story. I listen to Dave as well. As a gay man, I listen to his message on managing money. I figure the message is the same regardless of our politics. He does have sexy daddy vibes.
I don’t understand. This is so drama filled and attention seeking for all the wrong reasons. I watched the video and it was great. Natalie didn’t join because no one joins if you’re not married or family. And Dave’s comment about you possibly getting married is not wrong. You are really ungrateful for the freedoms we have in this country for people to be able to run their own company how they choose while publicly speaking on their view of Faith and politics. Oh wait, just like how you practice that right on here.
It's awesome how you're total debt free! Chapter closed and never again hehe! Being gay (like myself) has nothing to do with financial stuff however. Not really sure where all the political stuff is coming from, I'll just say be very careful when it comes to making judgments like that my dear. I hear you fully on some of your concerns for sure. I've been in Nashville, TN and it's actually the most liberal out of the whole state. Ramsey Solutions isn't actively against homosexuality.
I’m actually not the first person to make a video about this topic - I’ll link below. Unfortunately their platform is homophobic. They don’t view same sex couples as legitimate or have the right to be considered married, even if it is legal. Given that context and the fact that they’ve never had any gay couples on the show, I feel justified that I was nervous about being on as a gay man.
Because it's Dave's company and Dave's rule. Need to remember that these people who are getting fired have violated their Employment contract. They knew what they were signing up for, and violated the contract. I think it's a stupid contract, but he believes very strongly in what he believes in, and like I said it's Dave's company and Dave's rules. So if someone doesn't like the rules, then don't work there. But don't complain about getting fired for something that you knew you shouldn't be doing.
I like what you said but the media keeps telling us Christians hate us and want to 💀 us. Also straight white men. I like living. So it makes us hyper vigilant. However the things he said aren’t really homophobic, he even said they were Baptist southern welcoming, so isn’t that good? He even said Dave treated him kindly. I mean I guess maybe they didn’t think he was gay so that’s why they allowed him? Bro was yapping about homophobia but said nothing.
Dave had an older lesbian couple call in and he helped them through their transition into retirement and transference of the boutique hotel they owned to the manager. He helped them figure out how to appraise the business and to make sure they weren't getting hosed in the process.
What episode was that?
Can you link that video?
He's very adamant about people not sharing finances unless they are married. Even people in his groups or his "ish" groups warn people to keep their finances separate before marriage. I think that might have been the reason for the spouse/marriage comment. I think that's good advice no matter what your sexuality is.
He's very consistent about that. If he asks, "are you single?" And you answer with "I have a boyfriend/girlfriend". He says "you're single"
@@vviswana They view their way of life as the objectively correct way. That's the nature of collectivism.
I’m a gay man in personal finance. I’m not religious but I enjoy listening to his show.
Yayyy another fellow gay. Yeah, the show can be very inspiring, which is why it's such a shame to me that him and his platform don't respect gay people. :(
@@byenineto5226 Haha um he did respect you... You literally got to be on the show!
@@byenineto5226 , one thing is, ‘ not respecting gays’ and another is, ‘not agreeing with a gay lifestyle!’ At the end of the day, I think 🤔 if u talked to Dave about his views on homosexuality, you probably wouldn’t like how he feels about the subject; I think he’s Bible Belt all the way; if Dave got into that woman’s panties and fired her, that there tells you a lot!
@@byenineto5226 "respect" doesn't mean "agree with." You respect Muslims but I don't think you agree that Muhammad is a prophet and the Quran is the word of God. Not accepting their beliefs doesn't mean you hate them or disrespect them. The same applies to you.
@@byenineto5226 Dave does respects all people, he doesn't agree with your life path. And you don't agree with his. You are the only one that is making a big deal about it. I have several gay and lesbian friends. They don't act like you, they accept the difference and move on.
You can't honestly tell me you didn't know Dave Ramsey and company were Evangelical Christians?
At the end of the day what does sexuality have to do with finance?? He went on to Dave’s show and expects Dave to conform to his way of life and then speak negative about Dave because of that.
Dave has helped people from every background get out of debt and build wealth. I hate when people look to be victims please understand the the society we live in
What does being gay have to do with personal finance? Money is money and money doesn’t care if you’re a homosexual.
It’s understandable, but he is right. You don’t see much representation in money talks, usually it’s seen as a old people thing to think about Finances. It’s not a point of attention, but it is nice to see someone from his background to want to make a topic like personal Finance a less taboo topic in the community. I think he helps represent a lot of younger people now a days, and on Dave’s part this a good way of attracting new viewers beyond the traditional conservative 35+ people he gets to call in.
Ask Dave why he fired a woman when they found out she had a wife.
Always a victim
It's interesting given that dave is an evangelical christian
All that anal lube really throws a wrench in your budget
9:54 because a friend is not the same thing as a spouse you are building a life with. They're not even remotely the same thing.
The lady who was fired probably signed a character contract as part of her employment.
“Character” contracts are common with “Christian” ventures. I don’t know why someone would be surprised that the organization would follow through with their backward beliefs. They literally advertise them. If she doesn’t like being fired for a stupid reason, she should work at a place that is not a cult and you won’t get fired for being a rational, normal person. I used to be a Christian. It’s totally a scam.
She did
I’m yet to hear one gay couple call into Dave Ramsey’s show. Dave tends to go easy on the wife and hard on the husband. Would be intrigued to see his approach with a homosexual couple. Especially if one is a stay at home dad and the other goes out to work.
I feel like he wouldn’t even talk about it and be crabby the whole call 😩 agree - would be interesting to see how he behaves
A former employee of more than a year got sacked the day she told Ramsey she was a lesbian. He is not a nice man.
@@OZBarStories Where did you hear that?
Kudos for you !! I love watching the DR show and I definitely since he is 100% pro man/ women relationship/ marriage. You now have a new subscriber 👍. Also, I get the decision about your friend not joining you on the scream. I’ve never seen a friend join anyone on the platform for the scream ! Who knows in the future , maybe your going to start a huge network and bring out thousands of lgbti community . I would love to do my scream on your show . Hey!!!
@@bcusaaus4749 you are soooo sweet 😇 thank you
In this world, no one is perfect. Dave teaches about money as it is described in the Bible.He didn't steal a dime from you. He has simply blessed you. When We Don't Know What to post youtube Get Connected With Someone Who Cares and Wants to Talk About Whats Keeping You From Peace.
I've been looking for your channel because I saw you on Daves UA-cam channel. I'm happy to see that you paid off so much at such a young age!!!!! By the way I love the spreadsheet you utilized.
Oh my goodness thanks for putting in the effort to find me! Im honored you’d do that. Thanks for the warm wishes as well. It was hard work but it really (literally) pays off!!
Seems like your actual experience was positive but your projected a lot of negativity on to the experience
Whats wrong if its a Christian show?
I’ll bet he doesn’t have one gay employee.
Being fired for f*cking a girlfriend/boyfriend? Seens extremely petty. How do they even find out about their staff's private lives?
Seems like they treated him very nice he had a great experience and he’s looking for something negative
I’m from that area near his office and Franklin, TN is not in the middle of nowhere 😂 His building is right off the interstate but believe it or not if you’re from TN or the south in general places like Franklin, TN are considered cities
Here is a thought for you: you come to a place that is not yours. You expect this place( the people) to go according to your desires. Now if the things way the other way around: someone was coming to your place and expected you would align to their whatever expectations. Even if it counters your beliefs. Would you treat them like you were treated at the Dave Ramsey show : with respect but not agreeing to all your expectations or would you align with all their expectations because it's what they want no matter what you want?
i guess i would find a way to be respectful while also respecting who i am. or i wouldn’t go. then id realize an untapped market lol
The big difference is a Christian's beliefs limits the rights of others who don't share those beliefs. Like if Christians had their way, gay marriage wouldn't be allowed. Most people who aren't religious don't want any Christian's rights limited, there's nothing they're looking to take away.
So it's not the same thing. One side is saying "you shouldn't have what I have because of what I believe", the other side is saying "we disagree, but there's nothing I have that I don't want you to have". Christians unfortunately fall on the former.
I remember seeing this episode! I remember thinking you were cute and I was sure you were gay until they panned to your friend- then I felt sad! Anyway, I too listen to Dave Ramsay and he has definitely helped me stay debt free for a while now. But I’m glad you are speaking out about this because he probably doesn’t get it enough and I hope he sees this and makes some changes. Bravo to you for wanting to spread the word about financial health in our community!
Money and sexual preference are two different things. Everyone has a sex preference, we are all different. Different tastes in food, different ethnicity, so what is “ our people ?
She was fired because she and Chris Hogan were having an affair.
An older lesbian couple called in and Dave called them fun and he was laughing with her and enjoyed the call.
was chris hogan fired?
@@trillianmcmillian2660 yes he was fired
He didn’t fire her for her having sex before marriage. He acknowledged the scandal and stated she was a temp at the job and her contract ended and wasn’t rehired.
1- convenient 2- probably didn’t hire her off contract because of what “she did” which is baaaasically the same
@@rebeccasuraci7666 remember all the times y’all scream about how private companies can do what they want… u till it comes to something you care about.
If he wants to run his show as a Christian Financial show what’s wrong with that?
There is a big difference in hating gays and not agreeing with the lifestyle. You seem to be a very smart young man! And Jesus love you!!
It is not a lifestyle, it is a part of their identity like their skin color. You can’t change that. Theologians disagree all the time about homosexuality in the Bible. Some are accepting and affirming and some aren’t. It’s complicated discussion and if they can’t figure it out what makes you think others know about the subject, and that they probably have not studied the Bible for decades of their lives. You make it seem like being gay is a choice when you say it is a lifestyle when it isn’t. Straight Christians wait until marriage but will eventually get to have a long committed and loving relationship with their lover. But gay people are not guaranteed that. It is just sad.
@@Magdalena287 Could it be that people are less afraid to come out than before? I grew up in a very homophobic European country in the 80s and the 90s. I came out to my friends as bi only 10 years ago when I moved to North America. I did it because I felt safe to do so.
@@Magdalena287 You're using the wrong word. It's not a "trend," it's become more accepted and therefore more people are open about it. There are just as many gay people today as there were 100 years ago, but the difference is the number of people who admit they are gay. It's not a choice. The scientific community all says homosexuality is natural, not chosen.
@@Smellanie4121 no its 100% a lifestyle, people choose it.
@@Smellanie4121 it may not be choice it may be the struggle that a person came with however it’s should be something to overcome not stay in the just like any other unnatural desire
Funny how any other religious belief gets a pass if they discriminate but every single time a Christian discriminates, they get gas lit and shamed for it.
How do you know if someone is a Vegan?
Same way you know if there gay they make sure to tell you several times even though no one is cares.
Friends can work together - but it's their show - their rules.
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Remember if you invest 15% every year and you never touch it it will COMPOUND and DOUBLE EVERY 7 YEARS. GOOD LUCK
Dave is a Christian and has a morality clause. Why would this lady seek employment with that company? FYI Suze Orman is a lesbian financial expert. She discusses money and not her sexuality.
As she should. Avoid the hot button issues. Politics, sex and religion.
@@tryan7 Being gay isn't a hot button issue unless you're a homophobe. Like you seem to be.
If I walked into a business knowing it was gay, or lesbian owned I wouldn't think twice about seeing a rainbow flag outside.
Sooo, walking up to.a Christian based business and seeing a Bible quote or cross shouldn't be a surprise 🤔
Also, there is not a Bible quote that says gay ppl are going to hell.
Growing up I was always told keep politics, sex and religion to yourself. It is difficult to do.
Your math was definitely wrong on your savings unless you assume you’ll never make more than $12,000/yr for the rest of your career.
I wanna know how being gay correlates with your financial situation. Being broke or rich has nothing to do with your sexuallity.
There are literally hundreds of studies showing minorities of all kinds have limited opportunity and generational wealth.
@@travisxtopher Their fault
Jumping on this comment is the only way I can reply, but I want to point our that Dave says to assume 12% rate of return (you assumed 6%) and, do you really only make $24,000 a year (3600/.15=24000). I’m guessing you are planning on getting that income up significantly, and I’ll bet he is planning on that with his statement. Good luck!
Christy Wright is a star on the show as well as his own daughter.. your bias shows in an extreme way. It seems you went there with half good spirit and half looking for things to get mad about. It seems you were treated with the upmost respect and dignity. I am a long time listener of his and not a religious person. Also your investment calculation you flashed on the screen was assuming you only make 65k the rest of your life. Once you are debt free and mortgage free, like dave teaches, you can invest a WHOLE lot more than 15%. All while being outrageously generous towards other people with your giving.
He also doesn’t seem to know that 15% of $65k is $812 a month, not $300. Lol.
Dave doesn't care if you are gay like the rest of us. Trying to force him or us into your gayness is what won't flush cupcake
You should get your facts straight before criticizing people. 1.) The woman was fired for violating the company’s code of conduct that she agreed to before taking a job at Ramsey Solutions. If she wanted to sleep around she shouldn’t of taken the job. 2.) There are two women that are “Ramsey Personalities”. Dave’s daughter Rachael Cruise and Kristi Wright.
3.) Chris Hogan, an African American man, was also a “Ramsey Personality”, until he was fired for violating the code of conduct for having an affair.
Anthony Oneal was a Ramsey personality. He now has his own UA-cam channel as well as a podcast. I really enjoy listening to him. You might want to check out his channel.
He’s a committed Christian. Of course it’s a different atmosphere.
He’s not a bigot.
Someone who dislikes gays is a bigot.
@@ryancalhoun2910 Yep
Natalie was your support. Nobody shares the stage with their support. Parents and friends are always on the side and given credit from there. They don't share the stage unless they share finances. Don't get upset about that. You chose to go and participate. If you choose not to read the room, that's on you. Do you not know about Christy Wright????
Good on you for being gay and into finance... the number 1 thing you can teach is that it does not matter! You can be a transgender gay black Muslim and you can follow the same steps as Dave Ramsey.
Congrats on being debt free! I hope your channel is successful!!
I watch a lot of Financial UA-cam and there isn't a lot of LGBTQIA+ representation on here that I've seen so way to represent.
Thanks so much for the kind words 🙏🏼
All you people care about is identity politics and playing in the woke Olympics. Sad to see my country turn into a liberal hell hole.
Why do you need to be "represented" ? How in any way does your sexual orientation have ANY bearing on the quality/validity of financial advice??
I’m glad you had a positive experience ♥️ I’m not gay or lesbian, but I understand why someone from the LGBTQIA+ community would want to be represented. It’s nice to see someone similar to you in this space. Congrats on being debt free!!!!
Ahh loved this video! So glad you talked about your experience with Ramsey and how they treated you. I’m happy it was mostly positive! And yeah totally agree how it sucks we don’t place enough emphasis on non-partner support :/ also as for Dave’s “you’ll have $20 mil” I noticed in your calculation you used 6%, which I personally think is a pretty good inflation adjusted return, but doesn’t Dave say average returns are like 12%? IMO that’s a bit optimistic but I wonder if the math works with his rate 🧐
So glad you liked! That’s a good point on his 12% standard. That lands me at just under 4 million at 65. Way better but 20 mil is still very inflated. We’ve been in a bear market for a loooong time, and I don’t think we can keep at 12% average for 40 years. I think his point was to say that to encourage me to keep going and make for a good show, but wanted to be a bit more realistic with my audience 😝
While 12% seems high today historically it's not. As far as having others share in the story of your success, my guess is that in the vast majority of cases that success is based in the individuals having a long term vested interest in the process, 20 years or more. Typically the only person you share intimate knowledge about you finances with is going to be a spouse. In fact I can't think of any instance of a caller or guest on a show where someone other than a spouse was part of the dialogue.
At the time you went on the show there were 2 female personalities Rachel Cruz ( his daughter) and Chrissy Wright. At present Chrissy has left and it looks like they are trying to bring in another woman. Also their entire platform is Christian based so I'm shocked that you were shocked.
Being Christian based doesn't mean you act differently to people who are homosexual though, no matter what you think of it. It's actually much more Christian to be able to rise above that and treat them equally.
But I am Christian, although I have different views than many, so honestly I am not shocked that it would feel different in a Christian environment for somebody like him. It's an unfortunate reality.
I think that depends on what you mean by "act differently". In fact some homosexual men and women want you to act differently because they are homosexual. It one of the reasons we have the whole debate about pronouns. Beyond that he can have his opinion about how the segment was run but the show gets the last word and they really don't have to explain the reasoning behind their decision. As for the ratio of men and women doing particular jobs, there are individual stories behind how each job was filled. I don't think you can make any definitive judgements about hiring practices based on some personal idea of quota for which gender has which job.
Congrats on being debt free 👑
Thank you!
With all due respect as an evangelical Christian myself, I don’t agree with your ways, however I respect them and don’t think they make you less of a person or that you should be discriminated against. With that being said, they know what they sign up for when they apply to work for Dave. If you’re not able to live by the standards he sets out then work somewhere else. Enjoyed the video though.
I’ve kinda gotten into his show a lot this year, and almost all of the debt-free screams are married straight young couples, older couples, and a few singles. It left me wondering if they feel their plan is for everyone, if they’d welcome a married gay couple with kids on their show. So it’s cool to see they did actually have one gay man that I know so far. They do have one “personality” who’s a woman who isn’t Dave’s daughter, Jade Warshaw. And so for their regular personalities I think it’s an even 2 men and 2 women, they just sometimes rotate around so you may not know them all.
Another thing I notice is they reference the “guys in the booth” a lot, so it’s not all just women making it run. But I’ve also never been there to see behind the scenes. I also just noticed this video is from 2 years ago, so maybe the personality lineup was different then, and what it looks like to me as a more recent viewer isn't what you experienced.
People are allowed to disagree with you choices
How do people “ identify “ as their sex preference ? I’ve never identified as a heterosexual I simply don’t talk about the sex I like
They didn't discriminate in firing her, she signed the contract to work there, knowing the rules.
The rules are discriminatory, just because she signed doesn’t make them right
@@ryanc9888no they aren’t.
@@brianmcg321ikr. Like I don’t hire black people. That doesn’t mean I’m discriminating against them.
I wish they would feature LGBTQ+ folks on the show. Very sad that they can't provide hope to EVERYONE!
They do
Sounds like you need to be tolerant and respectful of Christian views...
What did you hear that prompted your comment?
@@Kaniela6759 I wrote the comment two years ago. I don't want to rewatch this video again, so you'll have to figure it out for yourself.
I was sort of with you until the following statement: "Socialists need to be stopped... isn't really necessary in the personal finance space."
There IS NO PERSONAL FINANCE under socialism. That's the entire point of the ideology.
That is false.
Actually there will be more personal finance since the workers control the company and have a larger share to manage
@@DiaJasinlol. No, the government controls the company.
It’s Dave’s show, he makes the rules. If you don’t like them you didn’t have to show up. Yes it’s a Christian show. People have been rejecting Christ for 2000 years, much to their detriment.
You should marry Natalie. She's your best friend. Start a family together. Live happily ever after. The end.
I called in last week and discussed dealing with my husband's recent diagnoses. My call starts at 32:10 ua-cam.com/video/GZFFmAUsbrI/v-deo.html Now I realize that Dave wasn't the host that day and the co-hosts were from a younger demographic then some of the Ramsey personalities so that might have had something to do with their reaction or lack of to me saying "my husband". Also John is a trained counselor and has addressed LBGT issues on his own show.
Once again she signed a contract,
I paid off 30k watching him as well!!! I didn’t know anything about saving. Such a blessing.
The woman was fired for breaking a policy that she agreed to before beginning her employment. Everyone knows Dave is religious. You want people to be okay with your life choices yet you bash Dave for his. The hypocrisy runs deep.
Being gay isn't a choice.
It's his business and his show. Don't like it, don't watch or work for him. Nobody important cares. He will still be rich and complainers will continue to complain. At anytime you could of got back in your car and go home.
He also fired a male host for cheating
Don’t go to a Christian show if Christianity makes you uncomfortable. Muslims are much worse to gays but I bet you wouldn’t tell the world a Muslim made you uncomfortable with an Islamic quote. Point is get out of identity politics and also being gay shouldn’t be your defining attribute.
Muslims have the worst homophobia.
Thanking you for sharing your story! I'm also gay and love Dave Ramsey too. I always wondered how they would respond.
Interesting experience. Love to see more diversity of voices in personal finance. I’m subscribed. 👍🏻
Awe, thanks Seth! :D
@@khalidalharthi6139 Obsessed is a bit strong, but I would say yes I am an advocate for diversity because for a very long time the personal finance community has been the domain of certain people who because of their lived experience often don't think or talk about aspects of finance that might affect others (eg. costs of adopting children for same sex couples, costs making a home handicapped accessible for the disabled, paying zakat for Muslim families, etc.) They're not bad people, but we all come with our priors. For instance I'm sure Trey doesn't spend a lot of time thinking about the costs of birth control, or hormone treatment for perimenopausal women. It's not a part of his lived experience.
Evidence suggests representation of the (trigger warning) diversity of society makes it more likely that the message will sink in, particularly in the community represented by the speaker. In this case 41% of LGBT households say they are "struggling to make ends meet" compared to 27% of people in general. So yeah, voices like these are needed.
Congratulations on your Debt Free Scream!
But being gay doesn't have a damn thing to do with personal finance, just like me being a straight, white, married, small L libertarian has nothing to do with personal finance.
Mastering one's finances are 80% about behaving with money and 20% money smarts.
Hey bro, love the channel! I liked and joined the Byenineto5 family! Loved the part when you said im a gay man... GAAAAAAAYYYYY, lol I couldn't stop laughing lol... Congrats on becoming debt free my man, super inspiring for everyone out there!
It sounds like generally things went great! I am happy, too. It was a bit weird they didn’t let Natalie on the show or at least be referenced. Our support systems can all look quite different!
I like Dave Ramsey to a degree. His basic advice is very good, especially if you need discipline and have bad financial habits. I think Ramsey can be helpful in these instances.
I agree with Dave not allowing the girl on. His show has a formula and it’s geared around couples who save and follow his steps. Having a person who was not involved in the day to day budgeting, but instead was a support system, is off brand for the show’s formula.
On a final note. I think Dave is old fashioned and clearly religious. I think he figures most people, gay or straight, strive to get married and have a family, so that probably came from an honest place, or at the worst, was just a preprogrammed response based on having ending that segment 10,000 times.
Great story. You’re very well spoken and I think you will do fine going forward, thanks for sharing.
I actually totally understand them saying that Natalie could only come on if she was married to you. A lot of the debt free screams feature husbands and wives. They are very strong Christians at Dave Ramsey and feel very strongly about marriage, it just makes sense.
You got a subscriber I love your personal take on the gravity of the situation, plus being gay myself and Focusing on finances is some thing that I see a lot of other gays not focus on its mostly spend spend spend mentality they never save or invest; learning different healthy habits that you clearly do have, that I admire and seek. 🐾🙏
Dave has the right to run his business as religious as possible. I promise you when you are employed by Dave Ramsey, you sign an employment contract, this includes behavioral standards. You can disagree all you like, Dave believe’s what he believes, and that is ok, you don’t have to like it.
You do forget Christy Wright as a female star host of the show.
This is truuuueee I did not notice her
Or Rachel Cruz
Thank you so much for representing on Dave Ramsey! My wife and I have been following his plan for the past year or so and we are so disappointed of the lack of diversity. I’ve found a ton of benefit from his teachings but I do feel icky continuing to follow his plan knowing his beliefs. Like you, I think we will look for another personal finance pro to follow who is lgbt inclusive.
Thanks for the response Kira!! It’s such a shame bc hes doing good work but has such an awful philosophy 😩 I’m sure you’ll find the right fit that’ll inspire you even more 💪
doesn’t sound very tolerant of you 🤔
Go follow Suzie Orman
Bruh you said “gaaaaaaaay” you funny. Anyway did you not know that Dave actually built FPU the baby steps and philosophy on principles he got from the Bible? It’s not like he came up with the concepts and then used scripture.
Also, he tells all young people about getting married and etc. if you were the only one he ever told that too. Then maybe I would see how that’s awkward. But I’ve heard him say that to many people.
The way I see it, it doesn’t matter if you’re gay, bi, old, young, green. If you have talent on radio and Media you’ll be successful 😉
""Yo, Trey"
Do you think you could buy me a bottle of Rosé..?"
Interesting perspective. I think you read too much into the experience. The Ramsey organization is very clear in their beliefs so nothing should have been a surprise with the Christian background and conservative business philosophy. I think Ramsey was right in $20mil net worth given your starting age. Of course, he is taking in assumptions about your starting place and your earning potential through your life but $20mil is an easy goal.
Keep it up bro!! It’s awesome to see everyone beginning to take control of their life and money, and why wouldn’t gay men take care of their finances? But ur right! I never see any gay finance people on UA-cam or anything
Why would you only make 2k per month for the rest of your life…
I have started believing that Dave may well be a closeted homosexual himself.
I dont go around everywhere I go telling people that I'm straight because that's my private business and they didnt ask and dont care.Some day gay folks will realize this.YOU are weird for forcing yourself and your agenda on others. Dave Ramseys show is HIS show not yours!.
And no one cares what either of you have to say
So they should just let everyone have whoever on the show with them no matter who they are? No potential problem I can see there. 🙄
So you're mad that you didn't get enough free stuff from being on the show and that they wouldn't let you promote your UA-cam channel on his hundred million dollar platform?
I strongly believe that we can achieve near real-time communication from vast distances using quantum entanglement. The question I have is: what is a woman?
I wasn't clear from what you said. Did they know you were gay? Did you mention it to anyone? Because the vibe I get is that Dave thinks that's a sin and wouldn't want you on his show if he knew. The fact he mentioned marriage and kids suggests he didn't know.
There’s more to life than embracing to everybody that you’re gay. You’re gay and I have no problem with that but most of us are tired of
Obsession of the focusing on sexual orientation or the pigment of someone’s skin.
For example if you’ve ever watched HGTV’s host on “My Lottery Dream House” David is clearly gay but doesn’t come off as whiny or victimized. It’s a great show and he’s a great host that happens to be gay.
This generation is so delicate
wrong
I feel bad for her. But at the end of the day she said of the contract. To follow the core value of the company. She knew what she was getting her self into
So if the woman who got pregnant before marriage that he fired had an abortion and never told anyone...she'd still be working there. Great message Dave! There's also something about understanding and forgiveness and not casting the first stone embedded somewhere in Christianity I think...
Lol. What a stupid take.
My issue has to do with the circumstances around Chris Hogan's 'no longer being a Ramsey personality'.
Trust me it looks way different now
You could follow Budget with Ira
Glad you were on the show and got treated fairly well! I am a liberal DR follower and some of his comments really aggravate me sometimes. He's gotten even worse lately and I stopped coaching and listening to his show. He did improve my financial situation and I want EVERYONE to experience that, but his "moral" won't allow a space for everyone. I wish there's an inclusive DR somewhere!
Dave has had numerous gay couples call in and they get advice like anyone else.Nothing wierd.Actually you're weird thinking that" everything is wierd". Also your visit has nothing to do with another womans firing Its not your business.
“Bitch work?!?” When I started in media production there were precious few women in it. I am very glad to hear that he hires women for media production! Proud to hear it. Not everyone has a desire to be in front of the microphone or camera. If you have been listening to Dave Ramsey for any length of time, none of your experience should surprise you. His program is very much geared toward married couples. I’ve been through Financial Peace University twice, once as a single person, and once with my fiancé. It’s a world of difference. I actually would not recommend it for a single person.
As I listened, I think he was stretching for something to criticize. If he had watched a lot, then he'd know that Christy and his daughter are on the show with him and it's called "The Dave Ramsey" Show or maybe now the "the Ramsey Show" - and he started it - it really revolves/d around him - and he's a man. The fact that he hires a lot of women should be a good thing. I actually thought the things he thought were criticisms were actually good - like "But it was so Christian" and all the women running the machines and such. A true compliment to Dave's philosophy and creed.
I love you already. Subscribed! I’m a Ramsey follower but not at all religious.
Which day did you do your debt free scream? I would love to find that podcast episode or video to actually listen/see it. I stopped listening to the show because I too started have reservations about some of Dave’s words and actions, but I would love to hear your segment.
Dave and his crew have their beliefs, you have yours. They are not going to gel.
People have different points of view.
Dave's contract with his employees states his beliefs. He didn't like her getting pregnant. He owns the Corp!!!
His rules!
Thanks for sharing your story. I listen to Dave as well. As a gay man, I listen to his message on managing money. I figure the message is the same regardless of our politics. He does have sexy daddy vibes.
I don’t understand. This is so drama filled and attention seeking for all the wrong reasons. I watched the video and it was great. Natalie didn’t join because no one joins if you’re not married or family. And Dave’s comment about you possibly getting married is not wrong. You are really ungrateful for the freedoms we have in this country for people to be able to run their own company how they choose while publicly speaking on their view of Faith and politics. Oh wait, just like how you practice that right on here.
It's awesome how you're total debt free! Chapter closed and never again hehe!
Being gay (like myself) has nothing to do with financial stuff however. Not really sure where all the political stuff is coming from, I'll just say be very careful when it comes to making judgments like that my dear. I hear you fully on some of your concerns for sure. I've been in Nashville, TN and it's actually the most liberal out of the whole state. Ramsey Solutions isn't actively against homosexuality.
I think you are the only one making a big deal about being gay, i bet no one there cared and they were just doing their job including Dave.
I’m actually not the first person to make a video about this topic - I’ll link below. Unfortunately their platform is homophobic. They don’t view same sex couples as legitimate or have the right to be considered married, even if it is legal. Given that context and the fact that they’ve never had any gay couples on the show, I feel justified that I was nervous about being on as a gay man.
ua-cam.com/video/eDAWg8XW3Fw/v-deo.html
@@byenineto5226 dude it’s more than that. Dave openly fired a woman of 12 months service after discovering she was lesbian
Because it's Dave's company and Dave's rule. Need to remember that these people who are getting fired have violated their Employment contract. They knew what they were signing up for, and violated the contract. I think it's a stupid contract, but he believes very strongly in what he believes in, and like I said it's Dave's company and Dave's rules. So if someone doesn't like the rules, then don't work there. But don't complain about getting fired for something that you knew you shouldn't be doing.
Gay isnt a people. People are people. Stop putting urself in a box!
I like what you said but the media keeps telling us Christians hate us and want to 💀 us. Also straight white men. I like living. So it makes us hyper vigilant.
However the things he said aren’t really homophobic, he even said they were Baptist southern welcoming, so isn’t that good? He even said Dave treated him kindly. I mean I guess maybe they didn’t think he was gay so that’s why they allowed him?
Bro was yapping about homophobia but said nothing.
This guy is reaching. Reaching really hard.