Fix skipping gears and reverse not working [Step by Step] - Relaxing
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- How to fix Logitech Driving Force shifter (the one that comes with the G25 and G27 or can be bought for the G29, G920 and G923 steering wheels). No matter what your shifter model is, you can use this video to fix the problems below.
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PROBLEMS
Gears jumping between 1st, 3rd and 5th
Gears skipping from 2nd, 4th to 6th
Reverse gear button does not work (engages but doesn't shift)
Gear changes from even to odd gears and vice versa
Noisy pots - potentiometers (cleaning with isopropyl alcohol)
How to disassemble the shifter
0:00 Problems, causes and materials
0:34 Step 1: disassembly
5:26 Step 2: fix reverse not working
7:23 Step 3: fix gear skipping - cleaning potentiometers
8:19 Step 4: fix gear skipping - replace bad and burnt wires
9:52 Step 5: reassembly
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Wow! That is how important it is to know how these things work. Just a bad conccector or a loose cable can make you throw away a good shifter. Congratulations! Very good!
Thank you so much! It makes me very happy to hear that :)
It's you attitude towards objects (that can be repaired if you would spend a bit of time to research, ask or try out) that makes you thorw away a good shifter.
@@danibot3000 fax😂
@@danibot3000a brand new product shouldnt need to be repaired
The best tutorial I've ever seen on yt, my shifter was totaly broken, the gears skipped all over the world - tbh I lost hope it might work, but with this tutorial I made it works again, thanks!
Thanks to this tutorial I was able to succesfully fix a G shifter (G29 version) after having the gear shifting issue for over two years!
You are a legend! I opened my shifter to clean it as I always do but this time the Reverse stopped working. Your tutorial helped me to fix it. Thank you so much
Very complete video, helped me fix my L29 shifter, now it works just like a new one!
Thank you for this beautiful video!. It helped me to understand more about the shifter, and showed me that is a complex equipment: if I unscrew and dissasemble it, there's nothing simple, and I'll be breaking more than repairing. Last week my shifter failed constantly, and 3rd and 5th gears didn't "get in" (at Dirt Rally 2.0 game, blewing up (more) my times haha). Seeing this vid, and noticing the complexity of the pheripherical, I only limited myself to spray compressed air inside it. Then I closed and screw all and I tested the shifter in Asetto Corsa instead Dirt Rally 2.0. I don't know if was a "game trouble", a communication failure between the shifter and the wheel, a Steam update that I didn't notice, or if the air "moved" something in, but the trouble dissapeared! :O . Cheers from Argentina and sorry for my bad english writing.
Thanks! This was super helpful, the little green ball on the potentiometer had collapsed on mine which caused the 5th gear to be activated really inconsistently. I swapped the two potentiometers, since the other axis is being held in place differently, so it was "brand new".
5:20 The biggest point of failure, in my opinion, is those 2 little green half-sphere pieces of plastic sticking out of the triangular portion. They are meant to hold the potentiometer in place, to keep it from moving side to side, but as you can see, the material is very fragile and not very rigid as there is empty space between the 2 green half-spheres. When the shifter is fully assembled, those little green ball things are the only thing making sure that the gears are properly detected horizontally, because the little green ball things are preventing the whole potentiometer from moving side to side, as the little green ball things are forked in between the white plastic housing below them. They're gonna break off, obviously, and also if their entire purpose is to keep the potentiometer upright by creating a point of contact to the white housing, why wouldn't Logitech just actually attach that part of the potentiometer to the white housing in a more robust way? For example, screw it down? and why is there empty space between the little green ball things? there could be more material there, and it could be designed stronger, clearly... such fragile design
big true, i say to myself, and so I watched this tutorial because I have a G27 shifter. I'm actually looking for a disassembly of a G29 to see if Logitech learned anything and improved their design, cause I am not gonna buy another G27 after owning one and knowing its failures. However, this video is also a G27, so I'll keep searching for a G29 internals.
Thanks chief, very good guide!
Man, congratulations!!!
Thanks, my shifter is functioning flawlessly again now!!
No problem! Thanks for sharing this with us :)
Mate why are you so damn underrated and underappreciated?
Because I need to make content people want to watch, I think...
And because you need to share my videos so peoplo can appreciate it :)
incredible tutorial
yes the plugs are a bad idea, i fixed mine using a plastic sheath to increase tension on the plug to keep it tight, it worked flawlessly for years, now suddenly it's happening again and repeating my process hasn't helped, instead i've now lost reverse, this is a great tear down video, i was reluctant to take out the actual stick and plates from the unit, but now i've seen this it makes it a lot easier
Yes it gets a lot easier when you’ve done it before
Omg great job ! ! Thanks.
Thank you soo much!!!!!
It works!
This helped me so much, thanks.
thx for detail video.
Wow thank you. Was about to go buy a new one because gears would constantly pop into neutral. Cleaned all the ports and reassembled now working as normal.
Hey, i have the same exact problem, all the gears pop into neutral. Can you tell me what you did specifically, or did you just follow the exact same steps as shown in the video?
This actually worked. Thanks
Happy to help!
0:43 did the job for me xD Thanks man!
It actually worked! nothing looked bad but this totally fixed mine and it even feels better than factory somehow.
Thanks so much. Don't know why when you pay so much for a product, it doesn't work properly. I've had problems with the wheels and shifter for years. Never knew how to fix the shifter until now
Amazing how-to! Very professional and some key tips and techniques. I just got a used G25 and the reverse wasn't working, it just kept thinking it's in 6th gear. So I took the shifter apart, did the ball tension mod, also did the o-ring on the shift rod mod as well as all new grease everywhere. I used contact cleaner for the electronic bits and when measuring resistance between both terminals on the reverse PCB, there wasn't anything (open circuit). Clearly that's the problem, right? I soldered a short wire between both points and now it does read normal resistance, however after putting everything back, I still have no reverse gear!
I really can't think of what else could be the problem.
Wow, you did quite the restoration! Congrats. The o-ring mod was the one to press the PCB reverse button? How big is that o-ring? The button may be just entering the center part of the o-ring if it’s too big/wide... if that’s not it, I don’t really know what it could be
@@RacingLegendss I fixed it today for good! So it turns out you can remove the plastic cap(button) on top of the Reverse trigger sensor on the PCV. There is a rubber grommet underneath and a very thin plastic spring which, when the button is pressed (by pushing down on the lever), it forces the metal spring to make contact with both pins and thus you get a signal for reverse. I carefully bent the spring slightly (just like bending the spring on a logitech mouse button switch) and added a tiny bit of copper wire to add as extra filling. Now it works great.
My gosh you’re almost an electrical engineer with those skills! :) Is seems it’s a bit different in the g27 one: there is no spring, just the rubber button and some kind of conductor/resistive pad. Well, congrats on the fix! I thought I fixed mine for good many times but problems always seem to sneak their way back into my shifter hahahaha I hope it doesn’t happen to yours ^^
Do you know what kind of jst connectors are used in these shifters?
I followed your silly comment about using isopropyl instead of 70% and now everything works… I love you man
Where did you buy the replacement Potentiometer? I've been looking for a replacement but I cant find one :(
Thx ,Diggha hat funktioniert :-) it works like :D
I don’t understand but no problem! 😁
Hi. I Have a G25 shifter which is amazing, but I'm noticing an issue when upshifting in sequential mode where it will take maybe 2 pulls to go up a gear. I have had this issue in Dirt Rally 2.0. Dirt Rally and even tried it on the PS2 with Gran Turismo 3 to verify it. Do you think its an issue that can be solved?
Racing Legends,good tutorial. I riped out my G25 shifter potentiometer,and i'm looking for a replacement potentiometer,unfortunatly it's not easy to find. If you know about potentiometers,could you tell me what the numbers on it mean? for example on the front it says : 10 3A 76 1N
thank you
where do you find the replacement potentiometers i lost the little metal pin thing in one of mine unless you dont need it i would really like some info thanks :D
Really nice video!! I bought mine really cheap and it came with the sequential part not working. The manual shifter works just fine but when I turn the knob to the sequential side, no light comes on and I feel like there’s nothing conected to the knob...could you make a video of how this mechanism works? I would like to make mine work again, as I feel the previous owner took it out somehow. Thanks!
It’s likely just a loose connection, you could try opening it carefully and looking for either that or a dirty knob. I don’t have access to that version of this shifter, though :)
hi i dont know how fix mi g29 shifter, when i put 6th gear detects reverse help
I have a question guys,
I need those potantiometer in shifter. I couldn't find them.
In my shifter, one of these pots is broken. I need to find it.
Please help me.
I just bought a shifter, a driving force one and when i put first or third it detects the same thing and with second and fourth the same thing can i do something?
If you have long nails you can with minimal force pry the shifter cap off instead of using a screwdriver to minimise scratches.
Hello, my shifter when downshifting fast from 3rd to 2nd it detects it as 4th
When downshifting slowly it becomes normal
Is that hardware issue or just needs cleaning or so
I opened up mine and saw that it has hot glue on the potentiometer that's behind the stick so it's not a loose wire
It does detect all gears but sometimes it chooses the wrong gear
the same thing is happening with me and my shifter it detect 6th as 4th
@@harrygregory6227 you know what almost a yeas has passed and I still didn't fix it, sometimes it works fine and sometimes not
So when I upshift from 3rd to 4th, 4th gear will sometimes turn to 2nd gear and then 5th will turn into 3rd. Is that what you cover on how to fix here?
My shifter isn't getting detected at all. I've tried on two systems and three OS's (Windows 10, Windows 11 and Linux). Maybe it's my wheel? Not sure.
I've taken the shifter apart and it all seems fine, the last thing I done before it stopped working was unplugging it and updating Windows 10 (now on windows 11).
I Cleaned my potis like 5 years ago and its still working fine
You did a great job then! Or you’re lucky
All I did to fix mine was take it apart and reseat the shifter mechanism and then put it back together and it works flawlessly
How do you do this ??
@@loganbarr-5541 Literally all I did was take it apart and put it back together and somehow that fixed it
@@limited3502 My issue was the gears were not in order. First was third and so on... I just figured taking it apart seeing if there was obvious flaws would help. I decided to put it back together and test and it worked.
@@limited3502 That is the exact same situation with mine. I feel the same way and I’m glad I don’t have to buy a new one
Currently repairing as I type (UPDATE 22/02/26 at bottom)
I've built my PC, I've tinkered with model cars, I've worked with small pieces
But F You Logitech for selling $70 worth of hardware that wears out in about 2 weeks of active use (owned and cared for for 3 years, but use adding maybe 2 weeks of use total due to difficulties)
And man this makes me want to tear my hair out
But this video is very well explained! And is keeping my sanity in check
But man these small parts are difficult
10/10 Video, but 3/10 Product from Logitech
UPDATE: Shifter is back together, it was a loose connector on the reverse button
UPDATE 2022/02/26: Reverse stopped working again, most likely from the horrible connector for the reverse thing. they should have made it a different way
Thought you were time travelling for a sec there doc
or if your me and did this and broke it even more… call logitech support and they’ll replace it for you
Thank you for posting this video. My reverse gear is not detected. When I test for continuity, my reading goes down to 0. Since your video shows that it still has a value, do you have another suggestion when 0 is shown?
It depends... if you’re taking the reading from the PCB itself, unfortunately the metal has been discontinued or scraped off at some point in the printed circuit. If you’re reading from the connector, maybe it has a bad wire/metal that connects it to the pcb. In any case, maybe your silicone button is the problem and you could substitute it with anther one and see if closes the circuit again
@@RacingLegendss Hi there, it turns out that the leads on the board itself were faulty so I've rewired the contacts and it is working fine now.
I BROKE MY BOARD ON THE BOTTOM.. SO I HAD TO JIMMY RIG MY SHIFTER BASICALLY.. I TOOK THE WIRE THAT DETECTS WETHER THE BUTTON IS PRESSED AND SOLDERED ONE SIDE TO THE SHIFTER ITSELF THE METAL SHIFTER POLE. AND THEN A PIECE OF METAL I PUT AT HE BOTTOM AND USED A GLUE GUN AND GLUED THE METAL PIECE ATTACHED TO THE OTHER WIRE ON THE BOTTOM.. AND NOW WHEN I PRESS DOWN THE METAL SHIFTER TOUCHES THE METAL PIECE UNDERNEATH. AND BOOM INTO REVERSE IT GOES WHEN PRESSING DOWN AND PUTTING INTO 6TH LOL.
my 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th are good, sometimes it goes into 5th but doesn’t stay, it’ll go back to 3rd and 6th and reverse only register as neautral
Me too buddy, happened a lot to me
Worked, just didn't see properly where the ball went, on top of the spring.
completely destroyed my shifter doing this. thanks
my shifter barely works, i put first it goes neutral-first-neutral-first-neutral back and forth, same with other gears. or sometimes doesn't even let me shift into gear. the only gear working correctly is 2nd
My front potentiometer is loose, means the little black box can go right and left freely without moving the shifter. Any suggestions to fix that?
Mine has that problem too, I suggest fixing that to the white mechanism with something (string, hot glue, 2 part moldable bit of matter that dries hard and idk the name of...) so that it holds the pot in place while the inner mechanism can rotate it...
But be careful to not glue it all together and have to buy another shifter...
@@RacingLegendss Very big Thanks for the help dude! But I've just converted my shifter into a sequential gear. Because i know that the fix will not hold for a long time tho. i'll buy a new one soon
Good that you know that... mine is always breaking again
my logitech shifter isn't working as in like, it will shift to 1, 2, 3, but it wont shift into 5,6,R. i don't know whatss happening.
hey..
i have a problem
when i shift to 1st it goes to 3
and when I shift to 2nd it goes to 4
3rd and 4th and 5th and 6th and reverse are good
should I do what u did?
Yeah, it was my problem too ;) likely potentiometers
Hey I got a problem with my g29 shifter, if I put it to 5th it goes to 3rd n if I put it in 6th it goes into 4th do u have a solution
It’s my problem
Front potentiometer
When i shift third ot first sometimes in game it shows that i am in neutral. How can i fix that.
It may be the right hand side potentiometer
yo man, i got problem with steel ball in g29 shifter, theres a 1,5cm hole where ball hops in, but ball falls down till the end, it wont stay up, any help?
Geez! 1,5 cm is huge! You mean 1,5 mm? You can use a bigger ball, i had one from a bearing here at home and when i tried it, it got a bit heavier and harder to change gears, like real life
@@RacingLegendss i got it already man, i didnt know theres a spring inside haha so i lost it and found it, anyways thanks alot!
The screws at 2:35 I can't seem to get to them, they don't loosen or tighten 2:35
Hello my G29 shifter wont shift to reverse gear is this the same problem as you showed in video?
It's likely the bottom most button in a little PCB I showed in the vid, just clean that up real nice and maybe extend the rod in like a milimeter and it should work if the PCB connector is good and clean
@@RacingLegendss I fixed it. The wire was snapped in the connector
Awesome! Glad that it’s solved 😃
hi i bought a new shifter for my wheel because my old one only went into gear if i would push and hold the shifter in gear, as soon as i let go of the shifter it was still in gear but it would read that i was in neutral. once my new one came in it worked good for like 10 mins and it started to do the exact same thing as my old one. do you know if its the shifters that are faulty? or is there anyway i could fix this problem?
Which model do you have? The newer ones?
@@RacingLegendss same one that you have in the video
So you had the G27 wheel+shifter and bought another G27 shifter? I thought it could be the PCB, but since both have the problm and it’s likely another used G27 shifter, it’s likely the same problem from the vid, bad signal from potentiometers caused by dirt, losse connections or crimped wires... good luck :)
@@RacingLegendss thanks I bought my new one from Amazon it was sealed and everything so I think it’s the port that connects to the steering wheel
So it’s likely new? I thought they only sold used ones at this point (for G27)
also WD40 works very good for rusty contacts (maybe even better than alcohol)
Be careful though, I think WD40 has a little bit of a lubrication property, and if that's the case, it will make your electrical connection fail.
@ kev4ev
Regular WD40 is a terrible idea to use on these delicate electrical connections, UNLESS you are using WD40 branded SPECIALTY ELECTRICAL CLEANER.
Regular WD-40 leaves a oily residue that attracts dust. You do not want that on electrical components. 99% isopropyl alcohol dries with no residual film on any surfaces.
@ Racing Legends I was surprised that you did not lubricate any of the moving parts with some type of light grease as you were doing the reassembly.
This was an excellent video showing the complete tear down the shifting tower itself, as well as how easy it is to make repairs.
I do not currently own one, but I have been watching as many UA-cam videos as possible showing any kind of information, modifications or reviews as to how this shifter is constructed.
Yours has been the most informative so far!
I’ve been going back-and-forth as to whether to use the Logitech, ThrustMaster or one of the Chinese made aluminum/stainless shifters for a Driving Rig project that I’m currently designing.
Your video has helped me decide that I will use the Logitech shifter, after seeing how it is built, and as it is much cheaper than the other two. This is something I have been wondering about; how the shifter tower structure was constructed. Thanks!!!
Hey! Could you tell me what your wheel settings for forza are?
I had tinkered with them, but I lost them
Hey my shifter keeps putting himself into 6th gear and not reverse ,i took it apart and the reverse button is fine what should i do?
Are you pushing the knob down to shift? That was something I had to figure out the hard way.
"I put it in 3rd and it goes to 1st"
Is Richard Hammond your gearbox?
hahahaha maybe
Can you fix my gearshifter please?
Is there any way to buy this plate 6:49 ?
Maybe online or some electronics repair shop or just copy the layout in cad to a new one and ask a company to print it... I don’t know the price of that, but it might get a bit expensive
I found it a few months ago and have just now gotten back to thinking about it again but I remember it took me a few hours to find not from a Japanese sketchy website. Will update and come back with a link if I find it
Hey I’m having a problem where my game won’t find 5th and 6th gear any suggestions?
That’s it, this vid is for you, clean the lower potentiometer “the front one”
my logitech shifter says it has a extra slot for reverse but it doesnt it only goes to 6th gear withouth any reverse gear
Push the shift knob down then try to go in reverse
@@asscheekgaming yes i know now i found out the few minutes after i commented this and forgot to delete this comment
Good gaming! 😊
Can you use disinfektion alchohol?
Noooo please don’t do it!! I had to buy a whole new potentiometer , very hard to find, because the water in that alcohol rusts the internals of the pot
when u open the gear box u can make it very stronger gear change, i did it and now is too strong like real feel change gears
is there any extra parts you need?
@@wor_lds5386 change spring make it stronger, or take of spring and put bigger that round metal i dont know the name, but is easy just create something to be stronger on that place where u see how it works i will open and make one video about that
@@ToniLixSim ok thanks
my shifter dosen't shift!
why?
i have somethink like black glue on the gear stick
Cool fix but this isnt going to stop me from smashing mine with a sledge hammer
i have the problem where i put it in 4th it jumps to the highest gear on the vehicle im driving
Hmmm that’s strange
@@RacingLegendss its beamNG drive if ur wanted to know what game it was. but my shifter is about 3 years old and im thinking of getting a manual+ sequential one
@@mala7794 it actually jumps to 6th but since the car has only 5 gears it can't jump to 6th ingame, sorry for being this late
5:18 I just broke this thing 😭 and I don’t know where to buy a new one
Can I have a name of this thing please
The whole potentiometer (black +green)? Or the metallic tab?
@@RacingLegendss
the black one is broke and it was separate from the green one and cannot stick together
so I used epoxy glue to put them together
but maybe the glue getting inside them and now every gears are not working
Hmmm that’s bad you may have to change the whole potentiometer
@@RacingLegendss OK, Thank you for your guide
No problem, hope I helped!! :)
the ball instead of keeping over the edge of the white cylinder, it went through it and its stuck, im typing with my elbows as i have my hands full of grease
Ok that’s a bit of gymnastics 😂😁 that didn’t happen to me as the ball was a bit too large to enter it , but good luck :)
same did u get it out?
@@lunaticbtw530 not yet, im hittin the back of the white cylinder with the screwdriver, but it seems to be really stuck
@@RacingLegendss hahaha i hope it was that, but it simply fell in
Wow ok
My shifter wont go into gear 5 and 6 but the stick will but in a game it wont go to gear 5 or 6 please help 😥
Same problem I had, pal... this is the video for you
Yesss hahaha I’ve done that before
@@RacingLegendss i fixed it had to just clear some wires up and unplug and plug it in again
Nice!
i was halfway done disassembling this and i fell asleep because of the music
i do want to do this but im scared to mess something up
I did mess something up when I first tried it... but you may be able to keep fixing it and messing it up like me :)
@@RacingLegendss i just took every Thing apart like you did and I didn’t clean anything I just blew som air on everything and then put everything back again and now it’s working flawless. Thank you🙏🏼🙏🏼
That’s awesome man, muito bom :)
When I put my gear in 6 it goes into 4 pls help
Same problem bruv, likely front potentiometer, not side one
@@RacingLegendss so I will have to clean it and it is unlikely something is broken
lost the ball steel ball
Yeah!! That ball...
@@RacingLegendss can i do anything too make it work or is it completly ruined
nvm i found it but my reverse switch connector got loose and can i just glew it back on?
There are some balls like these in ball bearings, just have to nail the size
I wouldn’t glue it as the glue can get in and ruin the conductivity... maybe try taping it
Now add a 4mm plug into the spring hole as a spacer giving the spring more preload, and grease the 3 bearing slot holes with silicone grease, then grease the pins that grab the side plates, assemble, when finished it's better then new.
hey i'm gonna be straight, since nobody else can. DONT BUY THE G29 SHIFTER. ITS CRAP. IT DOESN'T DO THE JOB. you will be frustrated with shift misses, uncomfortable palm grip and short durability. EVEN WITH MODS IT CANNOT BE CALLED DECENT. don't waste your money in this shit. buy a chinese shifter on ebay or alie or whatever and be happy. listen to me, don't waste your hardly-earned free time with the g27/29 shifter because it is total crap and will disappoint you.