2022 Kia Telluride Towing Review: 5,000 Pound Test with U-Haul Trailer!
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- The 2022 Kia Telluride (and sibling, 2022 Hyundai Palisade) is rated to tow 5,000 pounds with a 500 pound tongue weight. Most outlets don't test towing, but we do! We loaded a 2015 VW Jetta on a U-Haul car trailer to see how well the #2022Telluride #towing experience would go. Total weight of the open trailer from U-Haul and the Jetta on top was right at the 5,000 pound limit.
00:00 Introduction
00:58 Engine, Transmission, Drive Wheels
02:04 Towing Package Details
03:05 Self-Leveling Rear Suspension - Why It Matters, How It Works
04:56 U-Haul Trailer Details
06:03 Towing Impressions
13:17 Wrap-Up
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Finally, someone talking about towing with this vehicle! Great info, keep up the good job.
Love the focus on towing capacity- and the self-leveling rear suspension feature is really cool! Great video as always!
Just found your channel. I like your reviews. Lot's of facts about the vehicles (lowdown on the levelling suspension was awesome) and the towing tests are very useful and something not many others are doing. Your presentation and camera presence is good too. Keep it up.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed, tell all your friends ;-)
Thanks for the review. A good mix of technical/real world applicability. Not in the market for a anything, but if I were this would be helpful.
Finally someone put together a nice towing review of the Telluride. Thank you!
Very welcome! Hope it was helpful, we’re trying to produce the content we couldn’t find before with towing. Share the video and channel with your friends!
Awesome video! Looking ro get a small camper trailer with my '22 Telluride so this video answered all my questions. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! We try to produce towing videos since most outlets do not. Share with your friends!
This such great review I loved it. telluride is so gorgeous 🥰
Kia is definitely killing it lately! Great review.
I have a fwd 2021 Telly. I bought it to replace my boat pulling Suburban. I found the tow capacity to be 1700 without trailer brakes and 5000 with. He boat weighs about 2000 and with the exceptional brakes in the Telluride, it tows great. I do use a clamp to silence the hitch and it tows really quiet. I get 22MPG pulling the trailer. Couldn’t get 20 out of the Suburban without a trailer. I get right at 30mpg on the highway with the Telly. I couldn’t be happier with my decision to buy the KIA.
No problems with a fwd pull up the ramp?
Very helpful.. good idea that you did towing video,
Glad you enjoyed! Just trying to do what most others don't, because we couldn't find this kind of thing when we needed it several years ago shopping on our own.
Towed with my 22 Telluride today and I experience the noise and having to get the electrical pin adapter as you. Thanks for the great informative video. Very helpful
Glad it was helpful! Those adapters are worth keeping - you'll be equipped to tow just about anything now.
Great content
Fantastic thank you!!
Thanks for the detailed review about towing. I have a Telluride ordered with the Tow Package (even though I just plan to use the hitch for a bike carrier), but it is good to know what it can do in case I have a need in the future.
Glad it was helpful!
I had no idea about how that rear suspension worked… great explanation. Good luck with the channel.
Glad you enjoyed! It was a fun one to learn about and explain back to all of you. Seems to be relatively simple and reliable as Volvos have been using a similar setup for decades now.
Wonderful review. Would be interested to know how the adaptive cruise control/lane keep function works when towing tho, as kia has really good semi-self driving functions
thanks for the posting your video
Glad you enjoyed!
Thanks for making this video. Was trying to find a video that discussed towing in the telluride!! Wish you would have measured the rear end drop.. whether or not the self leveling kept the rear end sag a. little bit. Sort of wish you would have let us know what kind of gas mileage you got with towing 5,000 lbs. I would imagine it would be the same as other similar V6 engine's. But it still would be nice to see that. We have a smallish 2,000 lb a-Frame.. and that would be helpful to know for a similar camper what the towing MPG would be - flat.. But.. this was a great video.. Appreciate how KIA added in the self leving suspension, gave you a 7 way that run's all the way to the front cabin. Much better than your typical unibody mid-sized SUV.
Excellent review. I have a 2021 SX and always wondered how the load leveling system worked...thanks..
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Glad it was helpful! It's a neat system.
I’ll be attempting to use my wife’s Palisade to tow a stripped and caged BMW to the track this week with a u-haul. Didn’t expect to find a review that addresses almost precisely that scenario. This was confidence inspiring. Thanks!
Hah, glad it was so specifically helpful! Should be fine - as in this video the U-Haul trailer will force you to load very far forward and thus have a ton of tongue weight. Watch what you put in the back of the Palisade and try putting more weight in the back of the BMW if you can, instead.
Love the E39 camera car 👀 The Telluride really seems to have no weaknesses. Good job, Kia.
Heh thanks, the E39 gets bonus points for having three pedals and rack and pinion steering 😍 The only real weakness with the Telluride is current dealer pricing on 'em. We are hearing reports of dealers in the DC metro area charging up to $20k over MSRP for loaded SX Nightfall models, and $5-10k over for lesser trims. The Telluride is a great vehicle *priced at MSRP* as with any other commonly-available family car.
Nice video. I use my 2020 SX to tow my 21 foot pontoon boat with 90 hp outboard - total weight about 2,500 lbs. It does a great job and feels effortless for the Kia V6. I should note that getting from my summer house to the lake I drop the boat on includes about 2 miles of steep, poorly graded dirt road which the Telluride handles just fine. As to your comment about "feeling the slop" through the unibody, I couldn't agree more.
Do you have electric or surge brakes on your boat trailer?
Great review, lots of good detailed information. We have the Palisade and a boat. This really boost my confidence in being able to tow the boat. Still a little hesitant about how it will perform pulling up long inclines like Parleys Canyon in Utah.
Glad you enjoyed! Palisade should perform similarly to the Telluride. If you look at how new vehicles are tested for the sake of tow ratings, they all use that SAE J2807 test that involves long inclines on hot days with A/C blasting so you should be okay.
Some basic tips for any tow vehicle on big grades:
1. Shift manually if you are comfortable doing so, keep the engine in its power band. The Kia/Hyundai V6 in these makes peak power high in the revs so let it sit at 4500+ rpm so it doesn't struggle.
2. Don't try to be a hero and maintain 75 mph up a big grade. Sit in the far right lane and do 55-60 if that's where everything feels comfortable. Hazards on if your speed differential is huge compared to free-flowing traffic.
3. Keep an eye on the temp gauge. Every new car's temperature gauge is "buffered" in that it doesn't really move until things are already getting hot. If you see it start to move, pull over and stop, put it in Park and leave the engine running to circulate coolant and settle down a bit.
@@OutMotorsports Once again, great info! This channel is awesome!
@@Indylimburg So how did it pull up parleys?
Thank you for the video. You are absolutely correct in saying there are very few videos describing the Telluride’s towing. I was wondering if you know what the Telluride GCWR is as I need this value to determine my towing capacity.
We don't have that in our notes from this specific Telluride. Kia claims a max GVWR of 5,736 lbs for the AWD Telluride (in any trim with 7 seats) or 5,917 lbs (EX AWD with 8 seats) which is a start. But not GCWR as asked. You'd have to pop by a dealer and check a few door jamb stickers to see.
Great review! Thanks! Nice to see more specific info on the tow package. We’re waiting on our SX-P with tow package (since 7/30) and hope to have it within the next month or two. Refuse to pay over MSRP, so had to order and wait.
Glad you enjoyed and hopefully your SX-P shows up soon! Which color combo did you pick? So many good ones to consider. Dealers in the DC area, where we are, are going NUTS with pricing way over sticker - especially for fully loaded models. Curious where you were able to get a dealership to agree to MSRP.
@@OutMotorsports we’re getting Glacial White Pearl with Dune interior. Nightfall package as well as the tow package. We ended up purchasing from Kia of Muncie in Muncie Indiana, even though we live in the Harrisburg PA area. They are the only dealership in the country that participates in the Costco discount on a Telluride, which gives an additional $1200 off MSRP. A few other extras we picked were the illuminated door sills and the interior lighting kit which adds led lighting to the cup holders and footwells. Very eagerly awaiting its arrival!
@@kevincondran8032 I had to order mine as well to get it at MSRP from Youngblood Kia in Springfield Mo. I also orderd Glacial white Pearl with the Nightfall package, tow pkg, interior lighting with illuminated door sills. Only difference I ordered the Nappa Gray Leather....I guess great minds think alike lol? I ordered mine 8/10/2021 scheduled to receive it on 3/8/2022. I also own a 2021 Genesis GV80 3.5T and am anxious to do some comparative reviews of these. I love the GV80 can't say enough about it....had to pay MSRP for it also. How do you like your telluride (hoping you received it? I plan to tow my 4900 lb boat more with my Telluride. I also think it is imperative that only a high quality full synthetic oil be used with these Hyundai engines since they have solid lifters!
@@Rancejunge that sounds great! Bet that Genesis is nice. Sadly, we still haven’t gotten our Telluride yet. Checked a week or two ago and there were still 16 people waiting ahead of us on their list.
@@kevincondran8032 Wow I checked with Costco's website and they show no dealers (Genesis, Kia or Hyundai) now willing to partake in their discount program....times getting bad these days! Wonder if Costco slowed your order down. Has Kia not accepted your order from the dealer yet? I know my dealer let me know they accepted ours right away and it still took 8 months? I got lucky to get the Genesis GV80 when I did as now I can't seem to locate those on any lots plus they want an up charge which I will not pay.
Jake! Your boots are awesome (so is the video). What brand and model are they?
Thanks for the great info on the vehicle.
Thanks! Boots are from Taft, handmade and they wear super well: taftclothing.com/collections/boots
i love when the bumper is dragging looks so cute like the car is struggling
Nice video.. beautyful sweater.
Really enjoy your towing reviews. I'd be curious what your thoughts are on motorcycle hitch carriers. Specifically a product like the MotoTote or similar, with a sport bike, on the Telluride (or similar) hitch. There seems to be a lot of disagreement online about tongue weight vs the cantilevered weight of a hitch carrier.
We'd err on the side of caution with a hitch carrier. As you said, those carriers place a different, cantilevered kind of load on the hitch that is not a 100% analog to trailer tongue weight and how it is applied. The safest way to move a motorcycle with a Telluride would involve a motorcycle trailer.
@@OutMotorsports Thanks! I'm currently using a Rav 4 with a lightweight motorcycle trailer... it works perfectly, the only consideration is the added tolls. Going from NYC to NJMP adds up with a trailer.
Thanks for making this video!
I just learned something new about my Palisade. I need to tow a 3400lb trailer and I was wondering if my Palisade would be able to handle it.
Glad to help! It'll be fine with that kind of weight.
My 2021 SX-P has been absolutely wonderful, unfortunately my self-leveling suspension went out after 20k miles without towing. Apparently I'm not alone and the part has not been updated. Currently working with corporate to try and get warranty to swap to standard suspension 🤦♂️
Bummer that it went out so quickly. Guessing you want to swap to standard shocks because the assumption is it could fail again after 20k additional miles?
Not sure if I missed it in your video, or in the comments, but can you tell us just how bad the mileage was during your tow test.
MY 23 SX prestige X-line did not come with a trailer hitch... did not have the option either when i preordered.... Was i supposed to get one with my tow package?
For “suburban moms”? I’m a 38 year old single dude who is waiting on my order (and very excited about it). Please stop trying to make it a “mom car.” Nothing against moms, just saying, it’s not just for them and it ain’t no minivan.
The Telluride is loved by hot moms. And hot dads. And zaddies. It's a very good looking car and it's the segment leader for a lot of good reasons! Hopefully your order gets here soon - what color combo did you pick?
I agree. SUVs have a stereotype that they're for females only now. I see so many guys driving them and minivans. No one should care what you drive. I don't care what others think about my vehicles.
Yea it’s more like a Rover than a mom car lol
Thank you for mentioning the Nivomat suspension. I’ve heard about some issues back when it was more popular, and included hefty price tag for replacements. Do you know if there have been any changes to this latest iteration?
Not sure on changes, these are not actually made by Sachs but the same concept of how they work. Looks like one replacement shock is about $800:
www.wholesalekiaparts.com/oem-parts/kia-shock-absorber-55367s9000?c=Zz1yZWFyLXN1c3BlbnNpb24mcz1zaG9ja3MtYW5kLWNvbXBvbmVudHMmbD0yJm49QXNzZW1ibGllcyBQYWdlJmE9a2lhJm89dGVsbHVyaWRlJnk9MjAyMCZ0PXMmZT0zLThsLXY2LWdhcw%3D%3D
@@OutMotorsports well replacement part seems about what I recall seeing. Gonna be spendy if they don’t last a good 1-150k miles on average.
do Tellurides have factory trans fluid coolers?
I have a Kia Telluride and it's supposedly self leveling because I got the tow package. However I loaded it up with some mulch and drove for about 15 minutes and when I got home the back end almost look lower than when I put the bags in
Hmm. It may be the case that you didn't actually load enough weight in the back to make the shocks do anything to self-level.
Hi - Do you have any info on the 2022 Telluride transmission cooler? The forums are full of differences. Thanks in advance!
What do you want to know about it?
Are there any downsides/cons/risks with the rear leveling? (I honestly don’t tow anything but was thinking I would add it just because might as well? And the rear leveling sounds like it may be good even when not towing?) If you have any info I’d love it!
The only "downside" is that the self-leveling shocks will, as with any other shock, wear out over time and need replacing - and they can be a little more expensive than a regular shock absorber. But that's a "once every 10 years" sort of thing to consider. Even if you don't tow anything, they are good to have if you'll frequently have the vehicle loaded with people or cargo - they work the same way (automatically) to prevent sag whether it's tongue weight on a trailer hitch or lots of people inside.
My boat and trailer is 4,100 wet.. I am tempted.
Wow, unfamiliar with these shocks. So, if you hop up and down on the hitch, would they pump themselves up? I was just visiting a neighbor yesterday and a fella was there getting his boat serviced which he towed with his Telluride, which led me here to this video. I was impressed with this guys Telluride.
Heh, not quite like that. They need constant weight on the rear of the car for a few miles of driving (either tongue weight from a trailer or people/cargo in the back of the Telluride) to get the fluid moving and pump the shocks up to level. Jumping on the hitch will make the back bounce a little like anything else.
Will the 2023 palisade have these same absorbers?
I tow a boat trailer with surge brakes with my 2020 Telluride. I had to provide a backup signal to the trailer so that the breaks didn’t lock up. So I changed the 4 pin to 7 pin and wired the reverse signal. Perhaps the uhaul trailer didn’t apply the brakes when you backup
Interesting! The UHaul trailers allow you to back up without any fuss. We’ve also seen some surge brake trailers where you insert a pin to prevent the brakes from working while backing.
Been searching for towing. Looking at 2024 Telluride stepping up from ‘18 Sorento. Will be towing short distances a 22’ Tritoon so wondered your thoughts on if I need something more? Don’t want a truck but not sure. Thanks!
What's the weight that you'd be pulling?
Probably around the 4500 mark with motor, trailer and toon. So under the 5K even with Gas. But is it too close that it would drag on the telluride? Or is that a true comfortable number. Looking at xpro for the extra 500 but not sure why that’s rated better. Thanks!!
Honestly I think there should be an option for a 5 liter or more v8 because that current v6 is working very hard to reach its peak torque at 5,200 rpm and to pull 5000 lbs especially if there's a steep grade the suv has to pull....5000lbs may not be really heavy but it's alot for a N/A v6...but anyway excellent review
I agree we have a 2020 sc and absolutely love it no tow package but looking to go with a 23' with the tow package for pulling a 3,700lb camper. And definitely wish they upgraded the engine for towing purposes
I still bought air bags for my Telly to just help with an unnecessary sag.
I have a 2022 with the tow package and a camper. I use a weight distribution hitch with sway bars. Do you think I should drive the camper hitches up a couple of miles before hooking up my sway bars? Thanks!
Hey there - no, if you are using weight distribution you want to set the bars up *before* the rear load-levels itself. This can be frustrating on vehicles with air suspension as they'll detect the load and often start raising the rear before you can get the bars set up (which sends weight forward and changes tongue weight, i.e. how much load leveling you'd need) - in the Telluride's case there is no rush as it won't start leveling until you drive a bit.
@@OutMotorsports great, thanks! Going out for the first camping trip of the season (and with the new car) next week.
@@OutMotorsports I know this is a super old video. But we've been fighting a battle with dealerships and trailer places on whether or not the telluride can handle a weight distribution hitch with sway control due to having a unibody frame. Tried to hit up Kia directly and never heard anything back. Any help would be awesome!
I am confused on the last part about payload and tow capacity. Are you saying add payload to tow capacity, or 5000 lbs is total working wieght, ie, what is being towed, hitch, and full payload on the car? I was under the impression that payload and tow capacity were separate
The Telluride is rated to tow 5,000 pounds. Payload includes what is inside the Telluride (people and cargo) and the tongue weight of the trailer. So if you're towing 5,000 pounds with a safe 10% tongue weight, you have to subtract 500 pounds from the rated payload of your specific Telluride. That payload is indicated on the doorjamb sticker. What is left in doing that math is what you can safely have inside the vehicle.
Hi, I own 2020 sx telluride without tow package. Does that mean there is no self levelling system?
The packaging of options may have been different in 2020 compared to 2022, but for the 2022 Telluride, self leveling ONLY came with the tow package. Best thing to do to verify is call your Kia dealership and have them run your VIN to verify optional equipment.
Should put in Smart mode when towing not Sport.
Do you by chance know what the GCWR for the Tellirude is? I can’t find this information anywhere.
Unfortunately we don't, it may be on the doorjamb sticker but it's not available on the press materials or elsewhere on Kia's website.
@@OutMotorsports nowhere in the door jam unfortunately. Only thing on the door jam is the GVWR, GAWR, and the payload 😑
So you generally recommend the sport mode for any towing?
Yeah, it helps in the absence of a real Tow mode - or you can pop the shifter to its manual gate and change gears yourself. Given how the engine makes power, it's beneficial to let it rev more if you're towing, and the normal Drive programming may not do that on its own.
@@OutMotorsports
Thank you very much! Picking up a 2022 in a few days.
can you do this with 23/24 hyundai palisade?
We can certainly try! Have to make sure Hyundai has one available with the towing package in our local fleet. If they do, we'll snag it.
How would it tow in hot california summers going up 7% grades?
You'll have to keep the engine revving in its power band, but the SAE J2807 test uses about a 7% grade (Davis Dam Grade in AZ) and requires a minimum temperature of 100° F at the base. AC must be running and cooling system must perform as normal. SAE does set a minimum speed of 40 mph, so the claim is not that you can do 75 mph up such a steep grade. There are further tests that use steeper grades for the sake of stopping and starting repeatedly.
So, probably fine given the SAE test basically mimics the scenario you describe.
@@OutMotorsports thanks. Good info. I like the look of the telluride. I’ll consider it when its time to replace my 2018 Explorer sport next year. I like the idea of the much longer warranty in the Kia’s
You also have to consider Gross Combined Vehicle Weight.
You do! But if you know your trailer weight, tongue weight, and weight of what you're carrying, you'll likely be within the stated GCVW. Always worth doing the math if you aren't sure.
Don’t you mean Pythia remark?… 😉 💃🏼
OoO that's a good one 💅
What was your total weight of the U-Haul trailer and the car?
What is this color?
Everlasting Silver, on an SX Prestige.
The NUMBER ONE PROBLEM IS THAT WITHOUT TRAILER BRAKES, TRAILER WEIGHT LIMIT IS 1650 POUNDS!!!!!! Very Few boat trailers have brakes....
Okay, well either use a trailer with brakes or use a different tow vehicle. Nobody's claiming the Telluride is the end-all-be-all of tow rigs... anything of substance *should* have trailer brakes for safety, whether it does or not is another issue.
This is not a cool/hot mom car! Do yall think its feminine or something?
The car itself isn't any more feminine than other cars (and assigning that kind of characteristic to any vehicle is silly) but hot moms absolutely drive Tellurides with amber DRLs. Hot dads do too.