The WORST Cable Management I've Ever Seen | Mixdown Meltdown Ep 5
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
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00:00 - Intro
02:31 - Stage tour & assessment
12:51 - Labeling the tracks
17:00 - Soundcheck
39:11 - Finalizing the mix
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I love how these are recorded and edited like its a reality tv show.
Chris: *focusing on the mixer*
The Children running around: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Bad cable management only triggers me when it's worse than mine lol. I try to keep our stages clean, but it's an uphill fight that often ends in me hanging my head in shame.
Lol relatable. Same it only bugs me if it's visible or careless. If it's a big cord spaghetti because that's the only place where it makes sense to be like that, (like behind the wall near the drumkit in this situation since it's totally hidden) doesn't bug me at all.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 it bothers me from a logistical perspective. Cable spaghetti adds just a little extra frustration to teardown later, and I wish I had more willpower when setting up to deal with it properly. Doesn't bother me during a show though.
Sometimes I think my school has really bad audio setup. But watching you always helps debugging some issues :)
Thanks I think lol
Kudos to you, brother! You handled the cable situation pretty well. I've been doing sound engineering for about two years now, and when I see this kind of cable management, I just unplug everything and start from scratch. I've been learning a lot from you, brother. Thank you for the video.
I want to get into this field so bad. I am on my way slowly though. Thank you for these they are very helpful and inspiring to keep pursuing my path
"Just be kind and good things will happen." I'm not religious either, but that sounds like words to live by that everyone can agree with, believer or not!
Absolutely love this series, for someone who isn’t an audio engineer/ official sound guy it’s definitely helping me out a lot with learning my way with getting a good mix behind the board, having good cable management & having a good sound for a service
I literally learned how to run sound from this series. I’m a lighting designer, but wanted to get into sound. I ran my first sound show a few months ago.
I hate when other people are playing during a soundcheck. Like come on wait your turn and be respectful to your time. I understand you are getting just levels but man it bugs me lol great stuff man. I will keep watching every video you put out. Love the content bro🤘🏻
I think they were just jamming out too much and lost in the music they were playing. When the whole band was sound checking it took chris like 5 times to get them to stop they were having so much fun playing lol.:P
I think a lot of church bands don’t really know how to sound check. We get comfy with the same set up week after week so we don’t go thru the process.
@@c.s.5177 I play at a church every Sunday. People just need taught us all. No hate here just bugs me lol 😊
@@therideofalifetime I’ve been working on my little group
As soon as you switched to the headphone/board/stream audio ... I was like yep, 100% they need a couple of room mics! That room does SO much extra for the sound, it's really a great sounding room!
Exactly!
Could you not just put a reverb on the main fader to approximate the room for the stream, in the meantime?
I'm loving this series. It was recommended by UA-cam. I know nothing about sound engineering apart from the very basic I learned when messing around in FL Studio years ago but this is fascinating.
I like doing these jobs. I have one coming up Thursday. Don't know what I'm walking in to but that's the fun part. Getting them all set to go is satisfying.
I've really been loving this series of videos! Great work! I've learned some things. I'm a drummer and sound engineer/DJ and one piece of advice I give about drums is that you can literally make any drum kit sound decent with the right tuning and muffling. Even a cheap low-end beginner kit...but cymbals, no. I always suggest going hard and spending money on good quality cymbals over a higher end kit. If you only have the money to spend on one of those I suggest getting better cymbals. Makes a HUGE difference. Anyway, I hope you continue to make these videos!
from what I see, I can tell that you like what you do and you do it with love, personally I am confused with how much knowledge you have about these digital mixers in all your videos I felt your calmness and professionalism, I think you given something special to help those in need. I want as many videos as possible from you with what you do, maybe I can learn something from the crumbs that fall from your table. You make my day more beautiful by watching the way you explain. Thank you
Excellent work. Great patience. You are right a room mic would be nice for live stream.
I been doing house of worship audio for over 40 years and can appreciate how tough it is to get a good mix with thrown together gear and less than professional musicians. Well done sir!
And we're back!!!!! Great video my man!
amazing edit! thank you chris! love your job! great before and after! 180 degree
These Videos make my Day! Thanks! I was inclined to start over with the cable management. Wonderful things happening all around!
I love these episodes! So grateful for a new Church audio mixdown episode! 😊
Your patience is key. Very positive attitude and kindness goes far in this work.
God is going to bless you ever so abundantly for the work you do my friend. Thank you for your awesome video. And all the knowledge you give us through them.
Love trying to do a sound check with little ones running around screaming. 😂
I love the "Super Size Me" vibe you have going now
Also love how (super relatable as a church musician with a bad sound man) the guitarist knows whats up. Dude prolly gets told he is the problem a majority of the time and just doesn't want to feel paranoid
Cable management is extremely important. I have several different standard lengths of XLR cables and only use the length I need so I don't have a ton of cables being knotted all over the stage. I have each XLR labeled with colored labels on each end, color coded for length, and serialized so I can match one end to another without having to trace the whole cable. I also have a list at the snakes/wall plates/preamps/etc. with a preamp scheme. I have a small orchestra and large choir with front singers on Sunday the potential to mic up a full orchestra. I need to be able to lay out and take up mics and cables quickly.
I was planning a day to watch this! Hurraa, now i'm finally able to watch it!!
I love these mix-down meltdown videos.
Keep'em coming Chris, love this videos
That video it's a great north.
Thanks for sharing us your audio knowledge.
Another great episode, Chris! Great work (and I see you took a trip to Wawa; when in Rome, right?!?!!) Thanks for sharing!
Great job man! I wish I had that kind of confidence to go and dig through other people's setups. I know my church's rig and my home rig 😂. Day and night🌙 .
so glad i subscribed a while ago. great content
It can be a pet peeve when it comes to cable management. It happens a lot in some venues. But I feel like this is amazing to watch! Sound mixing in general is something I would love to do! Right now I'm a singer and a DJ but I do want to run sound too one day!
thanks for the new vids one of the best
I know what this feels like.
I’ve done the same for a couple of school auditoriums.
Nice job...!!
(27:31 Chris Hammill Rap 😅)
I tried an x32 producer for my band, it's a big change, we had an analogue
That drummer knew exactly what he was doing. :P
@@voca-chan7953 🎛️💯
The Wawa bags are iconic now in Phillly...I must have at least 10 between car/truck/home and work. Great job!
I looooveee this series
amazing video!
bro you are so underrated
This video auto played while I’m meticulously wiring up a rack. Makes me feel a little better about my work!
As a Haitian, I’m surprised but happy from this video!
sounded great in the end
Thanks for sharing your EQ for bass and Guitar
Amazing! I love your videos! Addicting, and my dream job! Thanks so much for sharing, you are helping so much, I'm learning a lot💝🎚
I love this series dude!!!! Also Angelos gets my vote for the best cheesesteak in Philly. Long wait times but well worth it
Thanks for watching! Never been to Angelo’s but next time I’m in the area I’ll check it out.
I’ve become a fan of this channel my friend.
This band has some “What a mighty God we serveeeeeee!” Vibes 😂😂😂 cheers my man. I hope I can sleep after seeing that cable management👋🏼
the thing i love about this is that they probaly brought the longest cables they could find thinking no one will take offense to this.
I would have disconnected everything, and reconnected, arranging the wiring jejeje, It's a real mess, very good job.
Same. Unplug all the outs. Trace them home and replug. Then start working on the ins.
All I do is record and mix vocals and beats in a daw. Still i love to watch these. MOOORE
You are quick brother
Love the videos! Low key these remind me of Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares haha
Thats the inspiration for the series.
damn dawg you made that sound so good
Google must've recommended this because I'm Haitian myself, and y'all were working with a Haitian church. LOL
Light Blue Gatorade Zero, goated drink for sound/music guys 😂😂
The drink of champions
I am a sound engineer also and I appreciate your work sir 😎
That cable box is the epitome of anxiety for audio technicians.
I'm just now starting a job as a "janitor" in my biggest local church, a part of the job is being the sound guy. I have never used a big mixer like this before and it's hard but fun to learn, wich I have always wanted to do. What I'm trying to get to is how crazy it is to be able to come to a completely new church and make everything sound great and make it simple for people like me to do their job. Sooo much knowledge and computing power in your brain
I appreciate it. It’s challenging for sure and every church has their unique challenges, but in the end it’s fun and everyone is happy.
A big part of it is knowing your tools. ;) Always read the manual of any board you are planning to be using regularly, and spend some time practising using it and getting to know how it fully functions. And if you're touring diferant venues, learning the diferent most common bords is kind of a must (but this is generally something picked up over time, through experiance working diferent places, rather than learning a bunch of boards back to back to back). ;)
Seeing those spaghetti cables all tangled up is like seeing gordon ramsay finding 2 years expired food in the fridge.🤣 Kudos to you.🙌 Love your videos man, keep it up. From New Zealand
The video quality on this one is insane! Is that the DJI Osmo pocket? Amazing. Nice work as always. You do what they need to improve their sound a lot in less than one day and you don't judge their system at all bc you know how hard it for them to do it without the audio knowledge . Keep pushing dude!
Just an iPhone and my Osmo Action 4 with some patience in the edit.
Wait how do you turn off the channel in config? I have time channels blacked out but I still see signals coming in.
love those old peavey amps
I'm going to have nightmares of cable management after this video!
Honorary mention has to be made for the iconic Philadelphia International Record Label! 🎶🎶
i hate it so much, that i love it. I am taking my first plane ride to philly soon and every tells me angelos?.."i woulda been like...nevermind just plug in ur crap an leave me alone"
Love that you enjoy those experiences, keep it up. God bless you for being kind too.
Lezzz gooo new ep
I thought the church I work at had bad cable management 😆
God I love the X32 though
This is awesome! We did two X32 producer boards (wish we did the standard X32), one dedicated for our stream and this setup with the bus for mains is a great idea! Wonder if we should of done so rather than 2 X32s as we run low on human resources at our church, me being the drummer and other guy that knows sound being the bass.
It’s always good to have a separate stream and FOH console.
At my school we have a group of students, including me, doing sound and light for some small events there. All of our stuff is mobile, so you do not want to see that cable management
Heck yeah! These videos never disappoint. I gotta ask though, was it uncomfortable using the console at that position? I also love the addition of the GoPro filming the screen of the console. (Just could be tilted a little bit so it's a little easier to read)
The board can was on a tripod. Nothing I can do about the angle.
Not awkward spot at all. All I did is rotate my head to the left.
3:13 Yeah... I've been doing sound for 32 years and can't stand a mess like that. But it's like a collision on the highway: You can't help but look 😊
That mix turned out really well! Have you considered adding reverb to this mixes? They sound pretty dry, I know you know that some effect would really elevate it
There’s a tiny bit but if they have room mics they will have all the reverb they’ll need.
Hey Chris
Nice for work man! You've said in your videos that you are not affiliated to any particular church or anything but let me tell you man God is using you to help a lot of people through your work! Keep it up and God bless you!!!!
Whether a divine being is using me to help people out is up for a discussion I have no interest in participating in. I’m just helping out people who are kind and asked for it.
@@chrishammillaudio This is really cool to see! I have the same mindset. And this has prompted me to see if I can contribute in a similar fashion with my own knowledge and skills. I appreciate ya.
Very nice series.
It would be interesting to try and fix church mixes in which they do not use Behringer x32, it will be very informative, for me at least, to see how you can mix on old analog mixers, or on different digital mixers from Soundcraft, Allen & Heath, Presonus, and the list goes on, if they reach out to you with this kind of tech. God bless you!
I work with whatever mixer they have.
Thanks for showing. Beside this worse cable management the background noise of all the people would drive me crazy. You want to listen to something and from every edge someone is making noise. The guitarist while you are setting up the drums, the keyboard while making question about the microphones . This kids and the people talking the whole time..
no discripline. So the cable management seams no wonder.
Thanks for the superfast response...hey do you have a link for the livestream episode you mixed??? I didn't see it on UA-cam. Great job by the way...I'm learning streaming from you...I need some more hardware but this helps me understand the process. Johnny
This episode was filmed sometime in April so it might be available on the church's UA-cam page.
nice video
I fought our system for about 20 hours redoing cable management. Then I proceeded to rearrange the routing from snake to board so it looks nice but is entirely unusable if someone wants to change anything (I'll fix it when I have time lol)
Not worse than under my desk lol. I tried several times to keep it neat. I always get longer cables instead of short. Problem is i have lots of PC cables and tons of exteranal instrument racks...and the area is so small to keep sliding my desk out.. first to go around the monitors first and not trip over a wire.
You should make a video where you listen to churches livestreams and give pointers or advice on what you hear and recommend what they could do better
That’s literally the next video in this series 😂 I’m going to revisit the 5 churches I’ve visited and see if their streams are where I left them or they are back to being distorted messes.
I laughed when you called the choir mics gang vocals. It's true, but also kind of funny.
Always called them gang vocals.
@@chrishammillaudio yeah, I was thinking church hardcore 🤣
I think that’d be the greatest thing I can ever see - a hardcore band praising Christ.
You are funny bro, 😂
That cable management gave me a flashback to my gig as a substitute sound tech. My first time helping set up a professional rig. Any tips for keeping track of the cables? I was given a list of the assigned channels, but soon after I plugged in the cables on an empty stage, the band leader started asking "what's this cable for? My brain went "location not found" lol.
Labels are your best friend. That and an input chart.
What VW do you have that's got a stick shift? THAT's AWESOME! oh SQUIRREL lol and yeah as always my OCD is more than tingling I think it fell off! LOL Great video as always! oh and man. ONE F($#$(#$ING CABLE TO KILL ALL THAT SPAGHETTI! sorry.. Capps, but yeah. one digital box, and one CAT6e Heavy shielded, and bam... no more mess.(plus MUCH shorter XLRs from the box obviously holy cow) can you imagine? Get those offering plates a shakin'! 😂
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@@chrishammillaudio Yeah I just figured that out I guess I could have just done some research. lol looks like a very nice ride. Cheers!
I don't know about the best Philly cheesesteak, but I have the most interesting location for a Philly Cheesesteak. I was in Saudi Arabia last year during their Founder's Day celebration and happened to be in Riyadh on the night of the big celebration. I went to Boulevard City in Riyadh and had supper in the food court. There were an unbelievable amount of establishments selling food, and I opted for a Philly Cheesesteak. The irony wasn't lost on me.
Have you ever brought an iPad/router and perhaps the Sonnect Sound Bullet to help you figure out analog patching without all the walking around? I mean, unless you appreciate the steps to help with your health .. but hey!
I don’t know why so many people are commenting about a router and an iPad. Other than my physical position on the floor to mix fog there was no point in needing one. I went up/down the stairs twice. Not a big deal.
Yo Chris , really appreciate your vids. I need some advice , I do sound for this church in my area but they cant afford a Digital Mixer at the moment. The current mixer they are using is a Analague Behringer Eurodesk mixer that sounds terrible. What wouold you suggest I do cause they audio that goes into OBS sounds bad but the audio on FOH sound decent compared to the FOH. Greetings from South Africa.
I personally use a Tascam model 24. If you can’t afford a digital console get one of those. Warm pres and it’s very easy to use.
Born and raised here in Philly. Good cheesesteak spots…Jim’s, Max’s Steaks and Dalessandro's are my favorite go to spots. If I’m being honest tho, some of the best cheesesteak spots are in the hood at the corner store/bodega (if you’re from NY).
One of the best steaks I ever had was Meatheadz in Princeton NJ
@@chrishammillaudioI’ll have to try it out if I’m ever in Princeton. It’s like an or more from Philly
If you ever come to San Diego, I'd give you a challenge of a lifetime. You ever worked with a Mackie Onyx24? Cuz that's how old our church system is ;) lol. I've spent the past year just chasing cables that's been needing replacing, and I piggybacked a Presonus UI12 that I picked up myself just so I can mix remotely.. because.. Oh yeah, I'm also the drummer, and I also try and run the livestream at the same time (mostly with my own personal equipment.) But man what I would give to just have a level sounding mix for the worship team.. I'm trying to take notes and see what I can use myself, but I'm still nowhere near being there. Hopefully one day.
Email me and we can work out something where I can come out there.
i'm not religious but if people wanna sing then people gonna sing
#1: In this type of installation I would have put in a couple of smaller multis, 8+2 by the drums, 8+2 by the choir etc to be able to remove the cable salad, maybe even make XLR cables with the right lenghts instead of a lot of cable on the floor.
#2: I HATE when artists let their kids roam free, running and yelling while i'll try to run cable or soundcheck....
I have no budget to buy gear. I go into these blind and work with what I got.
@@chrishammillaudio I'm not blaming you, you do what you can with what they got (Y)
When I configured the mixing console, I used an excel document to plan it.
I use notepad on my phone.
Question: what does using a blanket to cover the kick mic and the speaker necessarily do. Clearly new to sound 😀
You don’t cover a speaker with a blanket, but what it does is help absorb sound and isolate the kick drum further from the rest of the kit. It also helps reduce bleed from the kick into the other microphones.
holy fk lmao had to look away for a moment there lmao
Yeah. It was bad
Do you ever help fix sound for places outside of state? Or have tutorials for learning how to mix?
The last episode I went to Texas.
would you recommend sound engineering? thinking of switching (i'm currently studying chemistry but i hate it)
If you wish to work hard for little money, sound is the right job for you!
Hey, love your videos. Do you do this as a ministry? Its on my heart to do this for churches here in New Zealand but not sure where to start. I own a commercialAV company here in NZ and God has given me a gift and i feel it would be a sin if i didnt help the kingdom of God with my giftings.
I am not in ministry, nor am I part of any organized religion.
@@chrishammillaudio well your work is appreciated my man. Appreciate your response
Sounds great, but would love to hear more board audio
Plenty of board audio for when it’s dialed in and I’m finalizing it.
So the one result of this series is that I might get a X32. Why you may ask? Not for church or anything sensible but rather livestreaming myself at home. Well I would love a smaller version but the one thing I learned is that this one can do I/O in a much better way than any other device I was able to find so far... I was already half way just building my own PCB to solve that :| but looking at the price its probably cheaper to go with this thing. Even though I only have 1 or 2 analog inputs used and no analog outs it still would allow me to do EQ and bus stuff from my pc audio for different things which just dont (yet) work fully on my PC :D (And faders for stuff are just very plesant)
It's a very reliable console.
There are so many options for smaller mixers, why do you feel like your options are 1) oversized, out-of-date console or 2) DIY hell? Have you looked at any of the options?
@@kevinmccoy781 The X32 is far from out of date and is affordable. I don't get the hate for this thing.
@@chrishammillaudio I'm not here to hate on it -- it clearly serves a great role in the churches that I see you working in, and in other small venues I can see its benefit (I have personal ethical problems with Behringer that will keep me from buying their gear, but that's beside my point in this comment). I'm just responding specifically to the person who is talking about buying an X32 for just a handful of inputs. It feels a bit like overkill and not quite the right console for the job (though admittedly the job is pretty vague, just "live streaming") and I know that sometimes I watch a few UA-cam videos and think I need X tool to solve a problem because that's what I see people using for bigger similar problems but it turns out that if I did a bit more research into the options I could get away with a smaller, more problem-appropriate tool.
For just a small amount of inputs you don’t need a full size console. That being said there is an X32 compact. I would rather get an SQ5 or the equivalent Presonus if it were my money.
i wish someone could just put me in a room full of drum mics and cables that are all miss arranged and let me re do it. its SOO therapeutic.
Edit: The Reading Terminal Market has some of the best cheesesteaks you can find. All of the vendors are pretty good.
howcome these churches have better mixing desks than most studio's!!!
Because most “studios” are not real studios. If an X32 is “fancier” than a studio desk, that studio is not a studio lol
@@chrishammillaudio Nah im joking ofc but love what you have done!
so all the different venues you ahow up at use the same exact mixing desk?
Not all of them