After solo-ing all dungeons I honestly feel Prophecy is the most replayable dungeon both solo and with a group. The encounters are straight to the point, challenging and don't take forever to finish if you know what you're doing. Respect the Kell Echo and it will respect you. As for the hardest it's a toss between Duality and Spire. Duality more for the architects and sus flamethrowers and Spire because it's just the ultimate test of patience.
@@ninjasteph8350 the thing about the cube room is that it's got a pattern to how things spawn. Snipers -> Knights and 30 seconds before a new wave of ads. So my patter was killing the first wave of ads, then one or two snipers and then the knights. Figuring this out and making an arsenal for it took me a while. Eventually I came to the conclusion that a machine gun (usually xenophage for snipers and knights), an smg and a blinding or waveframe grenade launcher did the trick really well.
@@Snikeros The encounter is really easy, its just a snooze fest. Its just turn a cube a million times until finished. spending 5-10 minutes turning a cube isnt exactly fun
I think spire for replayability for me, the damage phases being so short and sweet feels better than slogging away at the boss for 40 seconds then having to do a longer sequence of actions to get back to damage again, i find duality to be tedious at times.
Duality is by far the hardest in my opinion because of how much a slight mistake resets the run. Dungeons like prophecy are a bit more forgiving but duality has you do a 10 minute setup for a 10 second damage phase.
Helpful tip for those that don’t know it, the opening and first encounter have ways of not needing to worry about supplicants: Opening encounter; don’t finish the circuits one at a time. Finishing a circuit spawns supplicants, so instead wait until the only circuits not shot are the last ones in the middle, then shoot all of the ending circuits to open the door. First encounter; don’t kill the Hydras……that’s it
as for the final encounter, watch where the ad group spawns and leave em unless you need ammo. Supplicants that spawn on the far right or far left will stay there and only charge after you once you step up onto those platforms. This way you only need to deal with supplicants in the backroom. Standing directly behind either of the two back pillars as the boss walks up can have him and the supplicants stop and stay away from you and allow you to take em out and quickly run to hit the wires you need.
For the final boss ive seen a video of a guy explaining how to do the nodes pretty easily and when ive tried it myself it was actually kinda easy to keep up the buff while dodging the supplicants and doing nodes. For the first part with the first sequence you can stay in the inside part of the left side door in the reactor room while you kill the hydra and minotaur so the boss (for some reason) stays still at the big entrance and after you kill the minotaur you can just go grab the buff and go to the staircase at the back of the room that way all of the supplicants at the middle gather up and you can easily throw a grenade and kill them all which is letting you do all nodes since the boss is still on the right side walking towards you. After that i just did circles around the boss room till i got all nodes and after that i just did like 7 good damage phases to kill him I know this is kinda all over the place but i hope this helps
I struggled a lot in duality solo flawless this one was hard due to being new to the mechanics but after I knew it, it was pretty easy only thing I had to look out for was supplicants
Duality is easily the hardest dungeon to solo with how many bugs that just kill you Edit:where did all of you come from I didn't expect anything from this comment apparently not.
Right so here's my rankings for dungeons Most difficult solo flawless Hardest - Duality Grasp of Avarice Spire of the Watcher Prophecy Pit of Heresy Easiest - Shattered Throne Most fun/replayable Most Replayable - Spire of the Watcher (maybe a slight bit of recency bias here) Shattered Throne Prophecy Pit of Heresy Duality Least replayable - Grasp of Avarice I'd also like to just add that I think Persys and Caiatl are the best dungeon bosses we've ever had, I love the fact they're always there as a threat, especially in damage phases. Also I think if they added master versions of the classic dungeons they'd be way better, Shattered Throne is an incredible dungeon but everything just falls over, I've solo flawlessed it roughly 80 times all in less than 16 minutes a run because everything is way too weak.
I'd definitely swap Prophecy and Avarice kn terms of difficulty, there's legitimately nothing hard in Avarice, just keep the focus on that timer and it's easy. Prophecy is the second most ads dense dungeon on the list, Duality being first, and both bosses are absolute menaces. I agree on the rest for difficulty, Throne is just a meme at this point, Pit's hardest encounter is the Totem room and not dying to f ing wizards, and that's about it
@@bolognatious1684 No offense solid opinion but I think prophecy is way easier grasp has way to much in such a short arena compared to prophecy. But thats my opinion
Amazing video yet again. Me and my group of friends dug deep into what causes what when the dungeon first came out. For the first part(where you find good ole tumbleweeds and the initial nodes). If you finish a node line all the way then it will start spawning supplicants. Just complete all the lines without shooting the last node and shoot the last 4 all at once. By doing so supplicants will not spawn. It does not work for the first encounter since taking out the hydras is what spawns the supplicants. 3rd encounter. Im sorry you are SOL. The only thing we found useful is that gally is a good trade in for linear if the crit becomes too hard. Arbelest for hydras to quickin killing them and minitours. Can not really do much about supplicants as far as I know. Probably just gonna have to raise your light higher so you can go to ham town on them easier
Duality was my first real solo dungeon, and that took me about 3 weeks of practice. However after beating Duality, I quickly beat all the other dungeons solo very easily, except for Grasp. Haven’t given Spire a solo attempt yet, not looking forward to doing the two bosses alone. But I do enjoy Spire in general! Very fun
its a test of endurance Spire, but heres a few tips I learned from my run. 1) witherhoard is your best fucking friend, weaken clear is a god send for the debuff. Same goes for solo op for the always radiant. 2) for the first boss kill all the ads before dps, the harpies dont respawn and if u leave a minotaur up the little dudes won't respawn. If the minotaur is in a bad spot kill it and the next spawns will always be 90degrees from the last. 3)For the first set of fans on the 2nd fan u can stand on the bulge and drop from there so u dont have to worry about the fan. for the 2nd set of fans u can drop down the channels directly opposite and avoid the fan blades all together. 4) for final boss rocket with any sort of reload perk, i used field prep for more base rockets and the reload speed while crouched. 5) Honestly dont face off with supplicants, just witherhoard the ground where they'll go, and jump over them. Witherhoard also almost cleanly kills the hydra on a direct, i think with solo op it does. Otherwise just take ur time to learn and memories the nodes for each side so u can nail em quick.
ah yea, forget this but in the opening area u can leave the nodes to the door undone until u can connect all of them at once and supplicants won't spawn since they'll only start spawning once one node to the door has been fully connected.
I'm honestly impressed that you had the mental fortitude to stick with this dungeon, struggling as you were, underprepared as you were, for 7 whole hours. I'm fairly stubborn myself, but I would most likely have given up 3 hours in. I have attempted Flawless Shattered Dungeon Solo enough times (back in the day when it was hard) to know when I'm not in the right space of mind to make meaningful progress.
I'd say the hardest to solo, even more so flawlessly, is duality. The amount of bs deaths that can occur in that dungeon...Like I remember my first solo flawless attempt ended when I got architected my Gahlran before I even got to one damage phase.
I have been yelling at my screen for days fighting Persys and honestly I needed this video your edits Crack me up. Found you by searching "how to not get killed my supplicants"
I soloed it (died three times, somehow) and got the title, I’m working on solo flawless right now but I just keep messing up and dying to something stupid in the second encounter specifically. The harpy wants me dead! I watched your stream when this happened, props for staying conscious for 7 hours man
When it comes to doing all of the dungeons flawless, spire took the most out of me. I only had to restart once but just the amount of phases the bosses required takes it out of you if you prioritise safety over damage. Duality has a harder base mechanic but it was a fairly relaxed run for me. Probably the hardest if you don't account for all the instakills. Prophecy was my first dungeon and will always be my favourite. By far the most replayable. Took me days to do my first flawless but loved the experience.
Quite surprised by the responses in de comments here, I myself did duality and spire solo, and I found spire way harder. Just the amount of rounds you have to do for the second and third encounter made it super tiring. Especially because of the supplicants which would just destroy the run out of nowhere. For duality i have to agree that the bugs were annoying, but maybe I was just lucky because i was able to do is way faster than spire.
I'm with you, I've done solo flawless duality and it did take a while, but it really came down to not getting greedy with the damage phases and trying to go for too many bells. Once I focused on playing it safe I really didn't have that much trouble. But I'm just not feeling like putting up with the ridiculous number of damage phases I'd need for the bosses in spire.
Hey man i love your videos i dont really do comments but i wanted to comment on your video because your editing and the way you’re yourself is just amazing keep on going and dont lose hope if things dont go the way you want it hopefully you’ll achieve your goals Much love ❤
After soloing this dungeon I would like to show a tip for the final boss, when the hydras spawn in the two side doors will be open and you will be able to go inside without any ads in there.
i haven't attempted solo spire but for last boss I think stasis + the exotic that gives you a massive overshield in place of your barrier + heir apparent might actually be nuts for survivability and damage
Only a couple minutes in at the moment, but FINALLY! Someone recognizes and acknowledges dunes pve ad clear capabilities it’s a (pretty minor admittedly) annoyance seeing people brush it off as just the “pvp mobility exotic for titan”
THIS They're SO FUN too--also, fun fact, Severance Enclosure procs off of uncharged melees (or, of course, mini hammer hits) when you have Roaring Flames active, allowing you to have a similar effect. Do with that knowledge what you will XD
Playing on my titan, I found skullfort and a infinite charge spam build was the best way to deal with the ads. allowed you to pre much oneshot all the base ads as well as blind them. Speed booster from amplified also helped to escape a lot of bad moments.
I think the hardest dungeon to solo is either duality or ghosts of the deep just because of boss health and mechanics and add density. After those two I think prophecy and spire have very similar difficulty in regards to what you have to do while being very different dungeons
Love your videos. If I may recommend load out for final boss; I used solar titan with lorely. Healing nade throwing hammer, roaring flame and sunspots. Void smg with a blinding kinetic grenade launcher and xenophage. This boss takes more splash damage so xeno did good damage for me (about 500k per DPS phase with weakened clear). If supplicants are the bane, I found tRinity ghoul great for clearing the adds! I’d still pack a blinding nade for the hydras and CC in general. I have a heavy GL with spike and full court that did decent damage too. Keep at it, you’ll get it! Took a lot of grinding and effort with 2.5 hours on the final boss but I finally did it.
I've done all dungeons solo flawless and I will say that duality is far harder than the rest, everything up go caital isn't too bad but it's so easy to run out of time/get killed by backpacks in that fight. I did solo flawless spire on my second attempt and the only issue was the supplicants in the final boss
After many long tries on the first boss and 13 damage phases, I gave up after 5 tries on the final boss and cheesed him. Watching this makes me not regret doing that.
I managed to solo it after 17 non consecutive hours. Arc hunter, assassin’s cowl+ riskrunner (supplicants do arc damage and helps you live a bit+ad clear), and before damage phases I put on star eater scales. Rod + storm chaser meant I reliably did 900k damage each time. It’s rough but doable!
I had a lot of trouble with solar titan on the final boss as well. I ran arc the whole way up but when I struggled on the final boss I swapped to solar hoping for better survivability, only for me to do worse than arc. Ultimately what I settled on was making an arc well, swapping to a set of armor including curiass and font of might (from a grenade based HOIL build), and then unloading a font of might powered hothead plus a curiass thundercrash at the boss. It’s not the best, but it worked out
Duality is just pain and suffering when i tried to get it solo ( Still haven't). but goddamn that second encounter in Heresy is agony too, especially as a hunter.
Assassin’s Cowl is your friend in that encounter! Keep meleeing things to stay invis on the totem and when the knight spawns, melee him (with a 1-2 punch shotgun) and bring the orb over. Just rinse and repeat.
I have solo-flawlessed all the dungeons and the hardest was duality because there is a wipe ,unlike Spire which has none. And most repayable for me in Shattered Throne. And I feel your pain on 2nd for Spire my flawess was a 7 phase
Man keep it up with that videos!!! I love farris old solo flawless dungeon videos but i stoped doing that That makes me sad but your video is kinda like that!
Best piece of advice someone gave me. Leviathans breath for the final boss. It will stun lock the boss constantly and the damage isn’t the worse. That with a damage super will get you a 6 phase kill
Solo flawless duality is the hardest out of all the dungeons just because of the bullshit that happens but if you can’t survive in tight spaces prophecy is a really hard solo flawless dungeon I would love to see a video of you solo flawless a dungeon thought that would be so much fun to watch
From easiest to hardest: Pit of Heresy, Shattered Throne(tied with PoH), Prophecy, Grasp of Avarice, Spire of the Watcher, and Duality being the current hardest for its strict mechanics.
On the second Encounter I was running recurrent impact because it gets eyes super fast and leaves room for more super dps on something like gathering storm without being in itself awful at doing damage
Which dungeon is most replayable? Hmm, that's a hard one. I really like a lot of them. For me it's down to Pit, Prophecy and Spire. Each of them are great, laid back, fun with friends, and very much replayable but each has its own issues. Pit has terrible loot, Prophecy gets really sore on the eyes after a while because besides Rainbow road it's honestly a pretty bland color pallet, and Spire has way too much boss health. It's fine in a full fireteam where everyone is optimized (where a 2 phase is pretty consistent) but anything else is a pain in the ass and god forbid you try to solo it. I think though if you put a gun to my head it would be 1 Spire 2 Prophecy 3 Pit. Spire visually is just fantastic. The spectacle of climbing the tower, fighting on top of it, descending into it, and fighting in its core is just incredible and never gets old.
@@cataposs Yep. The main problem with Spire right now is just the light level (and supplicants) which will be alleviated as the season goes on and basically fixed when Lightfall launches.
Editing was on point for this one I feel, but man do I hate you for positing these. Like any true backseat gamer, I think I'm better than everyone I watch so now I'm launching D2 to prove I can solo a dungeon I still haven't done. Pray for me. Deus vult
@@carla6017 honestly if I can solo flawless spire, anyone can. I’m hot garbage at destiny and always have been, but spire is just flat out easy if you use the appropriate set-ups and just be REALLY really patient.
@@elijah9755 I just started soloing it yesterday and I’m at the first boss it’s really not that hard but it’s so frickin long when solo and the damage phase is really short. Not as long or hard as duality final boss which I’ve never beaten solo but it’s an absolute grind. Wish there was a way to put out more damage as a solo player. I know there is the seasonal mod but I’m talking something a little more substantial. I feel like it’s going to take me 7-10 phases to beat it.
@@carla6017 that’s about right, it took me about that long to beat Akelous and like 6-7 phases for Persys. The Solo Operative mod helps a lot, but you really do kinda just have to deal with the fact that it’s a fuckin endurance and patience test
I soloed this dungeon last season for the guardian rank thinking that it would be easier with a higher light level and I was horribly mistaken. Grand overture came in clutch at the end
Doing this as solar warlock solo, and not a huge build freak, i just did whatever I could. Had retrofit escapee with fourth times and target lock for boss...DMT for ads, unforgiven for void shields. I can say now it took fricken forever for the first boss encounter...fricken 8 or 9 phases and it was so tiring thankfully i only died twice to get a good system going. For perseys it took about...around 10 phases dying 8 times to get a consistent damage phase. In the end i did manage to do it...buttt what i didn't realize was that I decided to take a break for the day and come back later to solo it...lo and behold when i did and manage to kill the final boss..i didn't even get the triumph cuz it didnt count if you leave the dungeon them come back Which is kindaaaa a bummer... Now doing it on bubble titan who is even less equipped....and god...the final boss...i tried using galli but the bubble kept getting in my way... Like you said, damage over survivability is probably better but i like to take survivability over damage any day as it could help out with getting out of tough situations...still haven beat the boss though..
Spire is the best replayable dungeon for me. its simple, is filled with ads so your bullets are always well spent and the fact that the dungeon is ikelos themed? delicious.
To me this is the hardest one yet, I know it's probably because I didn''t experience too many bugs in duality, but those exploding shits from hell and the amount of health on the boss really do a number on your sanity.
As someone who solo flawless it. I suggest void resis if you don't have it on since enemy are mostly void damage. trinity ghoul is good for clearing but that will sacrifice whitherhord so I personally will just stick with whitherhord. for titan Heart of Inmost light is nice cuz u have both ability regin and damage buff. before damaging the harpy boss you can switch to falling star. At the final boss just kind of run around, for a few seconds the door in the other room will open, and that will be your safe room before you open the main gate. The final is actually just to run around and distance yourself with boss, that's my suggestion.
I fell your pain lol I always had this question since I found your channel why do u have vex on your profile picture?anyway love the vids keep it up for me prophecy or this one has the most replayability cuz well prophecy is awesome and this one is fast hardest dungeon is probably duality
Duality is the hardest. The flamethrower push, explosive backpacks, phalanx shields and the mini galrans can all ruin a run in a single moment. There are also glitches like the bell one and both bosses have a good amount of health and have mechanics with timers attached meaning you feel like you need to rush the encounter to avoid losing to the timer which can lead to mistakes. There are also just tons of sniper enemies and areas you can easily get hopped off of by the boss. Spire is quite easy until the final boss room and then it just gets nuts, the mechanics are not as hard though although the boss itself is the most dangerous as it can almost insta kill you
In my opinion: Prophecy, being my favorite dungeon is the most replayable because of it’s straightforward mechanics and it has some awesome weapons like Darkest Before. For the hardest dungeon, I’d have to say Grasp of Avarice because of the sparrow encounter and the boss fights kinda test my patience at times (Duality is right there also because of the bells and exploding backpacks).
i haven’t done the boss for grasp but i’ve soloed every encounter up to it, it’s hard cause of how tedious it is. the ogre takes like at least 4 damage phases to go through solo and and fallen shield also takes forever because of how much time it takes to go around the levels
I think the hardest dungeon to solo is duality, ghalran is a pain in the ass with how limited your time window can be, the jumping puzzles make me wish for quick death, vault is a big ol endurance test and a bit of a bullet hell, and I still haven't beat caital solo
I've solo flawless'd *every* dungeon Except Grasp I don't have the Good Sparrow, and I just can't figure out how to deal with the sparrow section, so I haven't even done it alone
Best thing to do is just remember the button locations, and when you get to difficult locations just hop off the sparrow, kill the adds quickly with heavy or something and get back on.
I’ve solo flawlessed every dungeon except Pit of Heresy and Shattered Throne. (Haven’t done those out of boredom.) Here’s my tier lift: Hardest to easiest, Duality, Spire, Prophecy, Pit/Shattered, Grasp of Avarice. Duality is the hardest because the mechanic is the only time oriented mechanic in dungeons that can end runs if you aren’t fast enough, whereas in most dungeons you can take your time. Add onto that the fact that a lot of the combat spaces don’t give you locations to breathe and that contributes to its difficulty, not to mention the constant jank deaths that can occur from things like incendior backpacks & being stomped off the map.
I just got my solo flawless Christmas morning... Here's a few trips: 1. Strap in, it's brutal. 2. Wait to finish circuits in opening and 1st boss (1st boss save the final circuit and kill harpys before boss). 3. Screw supplicants. They moved into your way either blocking me, pushing me, or blowing me to 1 health and killed by anything else shooting u. 4. Warlock best (titian main). Starfire fusion nade build got me a 4 phase. This is because the final boss takes more damage from abilities. 5. Final boss room has a safe zone. The room the bosses leaves is empty until u open the circuits. Leftover ads from previous damage phases are the acceptance. 6. Either live with the suffering or get out. If u rage easy, get out
I've solo flawless'd every dungeon in the game and Duality is probably the hardest to flawless. The incendior backpacks instakilling me still wakes me up in a cold sweat
I know this is a month late and you probably figured out a godly 2 phase solo for both bosses but I'd personally recommend Forerunner for Akelous (great range, decent damage, 12 shots is perfect for its 12 eyes, can easily sweep harpies out the sky, the grenade catalyst is great for ad clear and proccing demolitionist for your primary/heavy. The only thing it'll struggle with is taking out the minotaurs since they're shielded). For Persys, Xenophage was a pretty decent help since it hits hard and allows you to be decently mobile while shooting it, not needing to land a crit or predict a shot and doesn't need frequent reloads. Pair it with grenades and supers of course. Also double concussive dampener armour mods are a god send since everything except goblins deal AOE damage.
I recently tried this as a hunter, i got to the first boss and gave up due to the low damage i was doing, void hunters invis was so good and definitely worth a 2nd attempt when I've preped up
I think Prophecy was the hardest solo flawless for me personally, only because it took me the longest time to complete if bugs aren't factored in but having 3/4 runs back to back ended in duality due to the bell glitch made me lose my mind haha. I don't think they're overly difficult usually but take me a run or two to get down then once I know all of the spawns etc I mop up, like for spire the first time I got to Persys I best them first try. The hardest thing in spire for me was unironically dying to a tiny gap that I kept falling through but wouldn't clamber even if it started the animation :' ) (also seriously love the effort put into the oldstyle infomercial bits!) Edit: I'm still watching as of when this was written THAT SMALL LITTLE HOLE WHERE YOU FELL THROUGH that's the one I kept dying to haha. Three runs or so I think, called it a night and then did solo flawless first try of the next morning haha. Just saw the ending and ooF that was rough. You stuck it out like a champ tho so don't feel too bad!! You endured a lot, next time you'll kick it's butt!
Probably the hardest dungeon to solo would be duality, but I think it’s mostly because I originally tried doing it solo without any prior experience in doing the dungeon, so I was basically jumping in blindfolded
I tried, the first boss is kind of easy because once you cleared the adds after every energy activation there will be no adds during the dps phase and you only need to hit the eyes not wait and shoot them till they pop. This makes it a 4 Phase for the first boss. But the 2end this stupid chicken, i tried for 2 days used more then 150 banners (yes that is a 750k Glimmer i just wasted). I cant it broke me it made me never wanting to play this stupid ass dungeon ever again. The chicken brakes warlock wells like he brock my spirit. The chicken kicks you out of existence. The supplicants sneak up to you and steal your money and f you without consent. The buff bearers sometimes wandering off and following you around the hole map, just to reminding you about your cars extended warranties just to slap you in the face tp away and let the dirty work of finishing you off get done by the supplicants. And even then when you get a got Routine a stupid ass Vex tps in front of you while you jump and kicks you out into the death boundary. So you might think use healing nades, ah yes you might be right with that, but just to use them and get surprise f by a supplicant who was just trying to steal your school money. So yes my spirt is broken and i will not touch the dungeon for an extended amount of time.
Every second you're not running, the supplicants are getting closer to your location.
Every supplicant you kill, two more shall take it’s place
*Explodes*
@@-CrankyBoy- *Kaboom*
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"Supplicants in your are"
After solo-ing all dungeons I honestly feel Prophecy is the most replayable dungeon both solo and with a group. The encounters are straight to the point, challenging and don't take forever to finish if you know what you're doing. Respect the Kell Echo and it will respect you.
As for the hardest it's a toss between Duality and Spire. Duality more for the architects and sus flamethrowers and Spire because it's just the ultimate test of patience.
I love prophecy, but one thing. THE CUBE. It kinda kills replayability.
Cube definitely does. It's honestly a big reason why I don't like prophecy much
@@ninjasteph8350 the thing about the cube room is that it's got a pattern to how things spawn. Snipers -> Knights and 30 seconds before a new wave of ads. So my patter was killing the first wave of ads, then one or two snipers and then the knights. Figuring this out and making an arsenal for it took me a while. Eventually I came to the conclusion that a machine gun (usually xenophage for snipers and knights), an smg and a blinding or waveframe grenade launcher did the trick really well.
@@Snikerosits not that the cube hard its just boring af
@@Snikeros The encounter is really easy, its just a snooze fest. Its just turn a cube a million times until finished. spending 5-10 minutes turning a cube isnt exactly fun
I think spire for replayability for me, the damage phases being so short and sweet feels better than slogging away at the boss for 40 seconds then having to do a longer sequence of actions to get back to damage again, i find duality to be tedious at times.
Duality is by far the hardest in my opinion because of how much a slight mistake resets the run. Dungeons like prophecy are a bit more forgiving but duality has you do a 10 minute setup for a 10 second damage phase.
Duality has to be the hardest. And prophecy is definitely my favorite most replayable. Love the vibes in there
I think you should solo the tumbleweed next
Also the editing is getting better every video and I love to see it
As someone who solo flawlessed Spire, you have my fucking respect for making it so far without DIM or huge preparation.
Helpful tip for those that don’t know it, the opening and first encounter have ways of not needing to worry about supplicants:
Opening encounter; don’t finish the circuits one at a time. Finishing a circuit spawns supplicants, so instead wait until the only circuits not shot are the last ones in the middle, then shoot all of the ending circuits to open the door.
First encounter; don’t kill the Hydras……that’s it
Wait what? That’s why the supplicants appear? Thanks for the tip.
as for the final encounter, watch where the ad group spawns and leave em unless you need ammo. Supplicants that spawn on the far right or far left will stay there and only charge after you once you step up onto those platforms. This way you only need to deal with supplicants in the backroom. Standing directly behind either of the two back pillars as the boss walks up can have him and the supplicants stop and stay away from you and allow you to take em out and quickly run to hit the wires you need.
For the final boss ive seen a video of a guy explaining how to do the nodes pretty easily and when ive tried it myself it was actually kinda easy to keep up the buff while dodging the supplicants and doing nodes. For the first part with the first sequence you can stay in the inside part of the left side door in the reactor room while you kill the hydra and minotaur so the boss (for some reason) stays still at the big entrance and after you kill the minotaur you can just go grab the buff and go to the staircase at the back of the room that way all of the supplicants at the middle gather up and you can easily throw a grenade and kill them all which is letting you do all nodes since the boss is still on the right side walking towards you.
After that i just did circles around the boss room till i got all nodes and after that i just did like 7 good damage phases to kill him
I know this is kinda all over the place but i hope this helps
I struggled a lot in duality solo flawless this one was hard due to being new to the mechanics but after I knew it, it was pretty easy only thing I had to look out for was supplicants
Duality is easily the hardest dungeon to solo with how many bugs that just kill you
Edit:where did all of you come from I didn't expect anything from this comment
apparently not.
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And a boss that, even if you make it to damage phase, you might not get to actually damage if you lose concentration for a split second.
Those backpacks. Those cursed backpacks.
@@jordanread5829 fuck incendiors
As someone who soloed duality (not flawless) just that last boss in sotw makes it 10x harder than duality
One of my favourite Toadsmoothie vids, glad you’re back!
The sparrow part on Grasp Of Avarice is absurd for solo flawless
basically screams *alllllwayyyys oonnnn timeeeee*
No it isn’t lmao
All you need is an optimal, memorized path
Skill issue
I literally never die at that part lol my route is unbeatable
Right so here's my rankings for dungeons
Most difficult solo flawless
Hardest - Duality
Grasp of Avarice
Spire of the Watcher
Prophecy
Pit of Heresy
Easiest - Shattered Throne
Most fun/replayable
Most Replayable - Spire of the Watcher (maybe a slight bit of recency bias here)
Shattered Throne
Prophecy
Pit of Heresy
Duality
Least replayable - Grasp of Avarice
I'd also like to just add that I think Persys and Caiatl are the best dungeon bosses we've ever had, I love the fact they're always there as a threat, especially in damage phases.
Also I think if they added master versions of the classic dungeons they'd be way better, Shattered Throne is an incredible dungeon but everything just falls over, I've solo flawlessed it roughly 80 times all in less than 16 minutes a run because everything is way too weak.
Imo grasp wasn't too bad for difficulty, I had an easier time with it than prophecy, but thats probably because i would fall off at kell echo a lot.
I'd definitely swap Prophecy and Avarice kn terms of difficulty, there's legitimately nothing hard in Avarice, just keep the focus on that timer and it's easy. Prophecy is the second most ads dense dungeon on the list, Duality being first, and both bosses are absolute menaces. I agree on the rest for difficulty, Throne is just a meme at this point, Pit's hardest encounter is the Totem room and not dying to f ing wizards, and that's about it
Where would you put Ghosts of the Deep?
@@bolognatious1684 No offense solid opinion but I think prophecy is way easier grasp has way to much in such a short arena compared to prophecy. But thats my opinion
"Bro dim is down, you think I carry around vigilance wing with me" is my new stranger danger line
Amazing video yet again. Me and my group of friends dug deep into what causes what when the dungeon first came out. For the first part(where you find good ole tumbleweeds and the initial nodes). If you finish a node line all the way then it will start spawning supplicants. Just complete all the lines without shooting the last node and shoot the last 4 all at once. By doing so supplicants will not spawn. It does not work for the first encounter since taking out the hydras is what spawns the supplicants. 3rd encounter. Im sorry you are SOL. The only thing we found useful is that gally is a good trade in for linear if the crit becomes too hard. Arbelest for hydras to quickin killing them and minitours. Can not really do much about supplicants as far as I know. Probably just gonna have to raise your light higher so you can go to ham town on them easier
5:09 The most titan thing ever "can i just melee this?" *Melees it*
I don’t know how I barely found this channel, but your humor and editing got me dying man. 🤣
My 12 year old did this a week after you and said i got inspiration from toad and then showed me this channel
Duality was my first real solo dungeon, and that took me about 3 weeks of practice. However after beating Duality, I quickly beat all the other dungeons solo very easily, except for Grasp. Haven’t given Spire a solo attempt yet, not looking forward to doing the two bosses alone. But I do enjoy Spire in general! Very fun
its a test of endurance Spire, but heres a few tips I learned from my run.
1) witherhoard is your best fucking friend, weaken clear is a god send for the debuff. Same goes for solo op for the always radiant.
2) for the first boss kill all the ads before dps, the harpies dont respawn and if u leave a minotaur up the little dudes won't respawn. If the minotaur is in a bad spot kill it and the next spawns will always be 90degrees from the last.
3)For the first set of fans on the 2nd fan u can stand on the bulge and drop from there so u dont have to worry about the fan. for the 2nd set of fans u can drop down the channels directly opposite and avoid the fan blades all together.
4) for final boss rocket with any sort of reload perk, i used field prep for more base rockets and the reload speed while crouched.
5) Honestly dont face off with supplicants, just witherhoard the ground where they'll go, and jump over them. Witherhoard also almost cleanly kills the hydra on a direct, i think with solo op it does.
Otherwise just take ur time to learn and memories the nodes for each side so u can nail em quick.
ah yea, forget this but in the opening area u can leave the nodes to the door undone until u can connect all of them at once and supplicants won't spawn since they'll only start spawning once one node to the door has been fully connected.
I've watched a couple of your videos already but that intro made me almost choke on some tea so consider me subbed. Brilliant stuff.
I'm honestly impressed that you had the mental fortitude to stick with this dungeon, struggling as you were, underprepared as you were, for 7 whole hours. I'm fairly stubborn myself, but I would most likely have given up 3 hours in. I have attempted Flawless Shattered Dungeon Solo enough times (back in the day when it was hard) to know when I'm not in the right space of mind to make meaningful progress.
Prophecy for replayability. The aesthetic never gets old and I love the weird encounters.
I'd say the hardest to solo, even more so flawlessly, is duality. The amount of bs deaths that can occur in that dungeon...Like I remember my first solo flawless attempt ended when I got architected my Gahlran before I even got to one damage phase.
In season of the haunted for sure, but it is not too bad now
I have been yelling at my screen for days fighting Persys and honestly I needed this video your edits Crack me up. Found you by searching "how to not get killed my supplicants"
7:43 Can confirm, it's the Cabal shield bash one for me (closely followed by the default Titan punch because daaaaaaaaamn)
I soloed it (died three times, somehow) and got the title, I’m working on solo flawless right now but I just keep messing up and dying to something stupid in the second encounter specifically. The harpy wants me dead! I watched your stream when this happened, props for staying conscious for 7 hours man
When it comes to doing all of the dungeons flawless, spire took the most out of me. I only had to restart once but just the amount of phases the bosses required takes it out of you if you prioritise safety over damage.
Duality has a harder base mechanic but it was a fairly relaxed run for me. Probably the hardest if you don't account for all the instakills.
Prophecy was my first dungeon and will always be my favourite. By far the most replayable. Took me days to do my first flawless but loved the experience.
The only bad bit about spurs is the first boss, which is just really long. It’s easy, just takes ages. And the final boss is the only kinda hard bit.
Quite surprised by the responses in de comments here, I myself did duality and spire solo, and I found spire way harder. Just the amount of rounds you have to do for the second and third encounter made it super tiring. Especially because of the supplicants which would just destroy the run out of nowhere. For duality i have to agree that the bugs were annoying, but maybe I was just lucky because i was able to do is way faster than spire.
I'm with you, I've done solo flawless duality and it did take a while, but it really came down to not getting greedy with the damage phases and trying to go for too many bells. Once I focused on playing it safe I really didn't have that much trouble. But I'm just not feeling like putting up with the ridiculous number of damage phases I'd need for the bosses in spire.
Hey man i love your videos i dont really do comments but i wanted to comment on your video because your editing and the way you’re yourself is just amazing keep on going and dont lose hope if things dont go the way you want it hopefully you’ll achieve your goals
Much love ❤
I love your videos! They have the fun vibe that most streamers can’t achieve.
After soloing this dungeon I would like to show a tip for the final boss, when the hydras spawn in the two side doors will be open and you will be able to go inside without any ads in there.
One of the best videos of the year, admire the honesty so much
i haven't attempted solo spire but for last boss I think stasis + the exotic that gives you a massive overshield in place of your barrier + heir apparent might actually be nuts for survivability and damage
Only a couple minutes in at the moment, but FINALLY! Someone recognizes and acknowledges dunes pve ad clear capabilities it’s a (pretty minor admittedly) annoyance seeing people brush it off as just the “pvp mobility exotic for titan”
THIS
They're SO FUN too--also, fun fact, Severance Enclosure procs off of uncharged melees (or, of course, mini hammer hits) when you have Roaring Flames active, allowing you to have a similar effect. Do with that knowledge what you will XD
@@phreedomphart4293 i’ll have to give that a shot, haven’t used severence enclosure in a hot minute
Playing on my titan, I found skullfort and a infinite charge spam build was the best way to deal with the ads. allowed you to pre much oneshot all the base ads as well as blind them. Speed booster from amplified also helped to escape a lot of bad moments.
The solo flawless was an absolute test of patience. Just left football on my 2nd monitor all Saturday & grinded
Bro I don’t know how you’re able to keep laughing at yourself at the end, I’d be screaming at every little mistake.
I think the hardest dungeon to solo is either duality or ghosts of the deep just because of boss health and mechanics and add density. After those two I think prophecy and spire have very similar difficulty in regards to what you have to do while being very different dungeons
oh my god this is exactly my experience soloing this dungeon. I'm even didn't complete that last boss too, but I'll try once I get capped power level
Love your videos. If I may recommend load out for final boss; I used solar titan with lorely. Healing nade throwing hammer, roaring flame and sunspots. Void smg with a blinding kinetic grenade launcher and xenophage. This boss takes more splash damage so xeno did good damage for me (about 500k per DPS phase with weakened clear). If supplicants are the bane, I found tRinity ghoul great for clearing the adds! I’d still pack a blinding nade for the hydras and CC in general. I have a heavy GL with spike and full court that did decent damage too. Keep at it, you’ll get it! Took a lot of grinding and effort with 2.5 hours on the final boss but I finally did it.
I've done all dungeons solo flawless and I will say that duality is far harder than the rest, everything up go caital isn't too bad but it's so easy to run out of time/get killed by backpacks in that fight. I did solo flawless spire on my second attempt and the only issue was the supplicants in the final boss
Prophecy was by far the hardest dungeon to solo imo great video
10/10 editting and I'm crying from laughter, insta sub
After many long tries on the first boss and 13 damage phases, I gave up after 5 tries on the final boss and cheesed him. Watching this makes me not regret doing that.
Honestly, this is probably my favourite dungeon in the game but dear lord, Akelous is a test of patience.
I managed to solo it after 17 non consecutive hours. Arc hunter, assassin’s cowl+ riskrunner (supplicants do arc damage and helps you live a bit+ad clear), and before damage phases I put on star eater scales. Rod + storm chaser meant I reliably did 900k damage each time. It’s rough but doable!
I had a lot of trouble with solar titan on the final boss as well. I ran arc the whole way up but when I struggled on the final boss I swapped to solar hoping for better survivability, only for me to do worse than arc.
Ultimately what I settled on was making an arc well, swapping to a set of armor including curiass and font of might (from a grenade based HOIL build), and then unloading a font of might powered hothead plus a curiass thundercrash at the boss. It’s not the best, but it worked out
The first and second encounter are ridiculously easy on solo, but I can't even fathom how the last one is possible
This dungeon was so fun to try and solo. It was like 8 phases for the megaharpy and just fell asleep before i beat the big bigboi at the end
Duality is just pain and suffering when i tried to get it solo ( Still haven't). but goddamn that second encounter in Heresy is agony too, especially as a hunter.
Assassin’s Cowl is your friend in that encounter! Keep meleeing things to stay invis on the totem and when the knight spawns, melee him (with a 1-2 punch shotgun) and bring the orb over. Just rinse and repeat.
Hello
Synthoceps with burning maul does really big damage on wyvern boss
I have solo-flawlessed all the dungeons and the hardest was duality because there is a wipe ,unlike Spire which has none. And most repayable for me in Shattered Throne. And I feel your pain on 2nd for Spire my flawess was a 7 phase
I’ve solo flawless every dungeon and spire is prop the hardest next to duality. most replay ability def goes to duality for me.
The hardest dungeon to solo is Duality. Because I hate cabal and getting physics into a wall.
I like how the most replayed spot is where people HAD to double check if THEY got the discord notification or if it was in the video
I've had my share if ptsd from the supplicants in garden of salvation so even if I want the yehaw helmet I think I'm gooood for now
Man keep it up with that videos!!!
I love farris old solo flawless dungeon videos but i stoped doing that
That makes me sad but your video is kinda like that!
Best piece of advice someone gave me. Leviathans breath for the final boss. It will stun lock the boss constantly and the damage isn’t the worse. That with a damage super will get you a 6 phase kill
Solo flawless duality is the hardest out of all the dungeons just because of the bullshit that happens but if you can’t survive in tight spaces prophecy is a really hard solo flawless dungeon I would love to see a video of you solo flawless a dungeon thought that would be so much fun to watch
From easiest to hardest:
Pit of Heresy, Shattered Throne(tied with PoH), Prophecy, Grasp of Avarice, Spire of the Watcher, and Duality being the current hardest for its strict mechanics.
I soloed this! Did it on arc hunter. Melee the supplicants before they explode. Chad strat!
On the second Encounter I was running recurrent impact because it gets eyes super fast and leaves room for more super dps on something like gathering storm without being in itself awful at doing damage
My brother in light, you rock HOIL for the encounter and then switch to Cuirass for damage. Makes everything so much easier.
Which dungeon is most replayable? Hmm, that's a hard one. I really like a lot of them. For me it's down to Pit, Prophecy and Spire. Each of them are great, laid back, fun with friends, and very much replayable but each has its own issues. Pit has terrible loot, Prophecy gets really sore on the eyes after a while because besides Rainbow road it's honestly a pretty bland color pallet, and Spire has way too much boss health. It's fine in a full fireteam where everyone is optimized (where a 2 phase is pretty consistent) but anything else is a pain in the ass and god forbid you try to solo it. I think though if you put a gun to my head it would be 1 Spire 2 Prophecy 3 Pit. Spire visually is just fantastic. The spectacle of climbing the tower, fighting on top of it, descending into it, and fighting in its core is just incredible and never gets old.
Boss health will change though as we get more light level over the course of the season, at least
@@cataposs Yep. The main problem with Spire right now is just the light level (and supplicants) which will be alleviated as the season goes on and basically fixed when Lightfall launches.
Editing was on point for this one I feel, but man do I hate you for positing these. Like any true backseat gamer, I think I'm better than everyone I watch so now I'm launching D2 to prove I can solo a dungeon I still haven't done. Pray for me. Deus vult
Let us know how it goes gamer
Onward soldier!!
Dont stop doing video i love you man
+ im french and your videos help me a lot
Dude the into was so perfect 👍🏻
I watched this video AFTER having already solo-flawlessing the dungeon and it definitely makes me feel better about my performance.
Oh here we go another “I’m SO GOOD at destiny” guy online 🙄
@@carla6017 honestly if I can solo flawless spire, anyone can. I’m hot garbage at destiny and always have been, but spire is just flat out easy if you use the appropriate set-ups and just be REALLY really patient.
@@elijah9755 I just started soloing it yesterday and I’m at the first boss it’s really not that hard but it’s so frickin long when solo and the damage phase is really short. Not as long or hard as duality final boss which I’ve never beaten solo but it’s an absolute grind. Wish there was a way to put out more damage as a solo player. I know there is the seasonal mod but I’m talking something a little more substantial. I feel like it’s going to take me 7-10 phases to beat it.
@@carla6017 that’s about right, it took me about that long to beat Akelous and like 6-7 phases for Persys. The Solo Operative mod helps a lot, but you really do kinda just have to deal with the fact that it’s a fuckin endurance and patience test
I soloed this dungeon last season for the guardian rank thinking that it would be easier with a higher light level and I was horribly mistaken. Grand overture came in clutch at the end
Doing this as solar warlock solo, and not a huge build freak, i just did whatever I could. Had retrofit escapee with fourth times and target lock for boss...DMT for ads, unforgiven for void shields. I can say now it took fricken forever for the first boss encounter...fricken 8 or 9 phases and it was so tiring thankfully i only died twice to get a good system going. For perseys it took about...around 10 phases dying 8 times to get a consistent damage phase. In the end i did manage to do it...buttt what i didn't realize was that I decided to take a break for the day and come back later to solo it...lo and behold when i did and manage to kill the final boss..i didn't even get the triumph cuz it didnt count if you leave the dungeon them come back Which is kindaaaa a bummer...
Now doing it on bubble titan who is even less equipped....and god...the final boss...i tried using galli but the bubble kept getting in my way...
Like you said, damage over survivability is probably better but i like to take survivability over damage any day as it could help out with getting out of tough situations...still haven beat the boss though..
Spire is the best replayable dungeon for me. its simple, is filled with ads so your bullets are always well spent and the fact that the dungeon is ikelos themed? delicious.
To me this is the hardest one yet, I know it's probably because I didn''t experience too many bugs in duality, but those exploding shits from hell and the amount of health on the boss really do a number on your sanity.
As someone who solo flawless it. I suggest void resis if you don't have it on since enemy are mostly void damage. trinity ghoul is good for clearing but that will sacrifice whitherhord so I personally will just stick with whitherhord. for titan Heart of Inmost light is nice cuz u have both ability regin and damage buff. before damaging the harpy boss you can switch to falling star.
At the final boss just kind of run around, for a few seconds the door in the other room will open, and that will be your safe room before you open the main gate.
The final is actually just to run around and distance yourself with boss, that's my suggestion.
grasp day 1 was the most fun ive had in so long in this game but i havent really touched it since then
i recommend before you trie a solo flawless you learn the encounters and spawns and choose a more pve friendly loadout that would make it a lot easier
I fell your pain lol I always had this question since I found your channel why do u have vex on your profile picture?anyway love the vids keep it up for me prophecy or this one has the most replayability cuz well prophecy is awesome and this one is fast hardest dungeon is probably duality
It's my favorite exotic :) and thanks! Prophecy is a great dungeon.
Duality is the hardest. The flamethrower push, explosive backpacks, phalanx shields and the mini galrans can all ruin a run in a single moment. There are also glitches like the bell one and both bosses have a good amount of health and have mechanics with timers attached meaning you feel like you need to rush the encounter to avoid losing to the timer which can lead to mistakes. There are also just tons of sniper enemies and areas you can easily get hopped off of by the boss.
Spire is quite easy until the final boss room and then it just gets nuts, the mechanics are not as hard though although the boss itself is the most dangerous as it can almost insta kill you
The Harpy boss' name in Garden of Salvation is actually the Consecrated Mind, just so you know :)
In my opinion: Prophecy, being my favorite dungeon is the most replayable because of it’s straightforward mechanics and it has some awesome weapons like Darkest Before. For the hardest dungeon, I’d have to say Grasp of Avarice because of the sparrow encounter and the boss fights kinda test my patience at times (Duality is right there also because of the bells and exploding backpacks).
i haven’t done the boss for grasp but i’ve soloed every encounter up to it, it’s hard cause of how tedious it is. the ogre takes like at least 4 damage phases to go through solo and and fallen shield also takes forever because of how much time it takes to go around the levels
I think the hardest dungeon to solo is duality, ghalran is a pain in the ass with how limited your time window can be, the jumping puzzles make me wish for quick death, vault is a big ol endurance test and a bit of a bullet hell, and I still haven't beat caital solo
Meeleing akelous with that super smash bros sound got me dead bro😂😂😂
I've solo flawless'd *every* dungeon
Except Grasp
I don't have the Good Sparrow, and I just can't figure out how to deal with the sparrow section, so I haven't even done it alone
Best thing to do is just remember the button locations, and when you get to difficult locations just hop off the sparrow, kill the adds quickly with heavy or something and get back on.
I’ve solo flawlessed every dungeon except Pit of Heresy and Shattered Throne. (Haven’t done those out of boredom.)
Here’s my tier lift:
Hardest to easiest, Duality, Spire, Prophecy, Pit/Shattered, Grasp of Avarice.
Duality is the hardest because the mechanic is the only time oriented mechanic in dungeons that can end runs if you aren’t fast enough, whereas in most dungeons you can take your time. Add onto that the fact that a lot of the combat spaces don’t give you locations to breathe and that contributes to its difficulty, not to mention the constant jank deaths that can occur from things like incendior backpacks & being stomped off the map.
awesome video! keep it up man
That stream was hilarious that final boss looked like hell
Awesome vid, dude :)
It took me 2 runs to do this, but I had Heliocentric with Heal Clip to save me from the supplicants. Nighthawk helps a ton with damage
I have done all solo flawless dungeon triumphs and by FAR the hardest was Pit. The 2nd encounter took me insanely long to get through without dying.
honestly i died more to the hazards after it than the actual encounter itself, duality was far more of a pain in my case.
I just got my solo flawless Christmas morning... Here's a few trips: 1. Strap in, it's brutal. 2. Wait to finish circuits in opening and 1st boss (1st boss save the final circuit and kill harpys before boss). 3. Screw supplicants. They moved into your way either blocking me, pushing me, or blowing me to 1 health and killed by anything else shooting u. 4. Warlock best (titian main). Starfire fusion nade build got me a 4 phase. This is because the final boss takes more damage from abilities. 5. Final boss room has a safe zone. The room the bosses leaves is empty until u open the circuits. Leftover ads from previous damage phases are the acceptance. 6. Either live with the suffering or get out. If u rage easy, get out
I've solo flawless'd every dungeon in the game and Duality is probably the hardest to flawless. The incendior backpacks instakilling me still wakes me up in a cold sweat
I know this is a month late and you probably figured out a godly 2 phase solo for both bosses but I'd personally recommend Forerunner for Akelous (great range, decent damage, 12 shots is perfect for its 12 eyes, can easily sweep harpies out the sky, the grenade catalyst is great for ad clear and proccing demolitionist for your primary/heavy. The only thing it'll struggle with is taking out the minotaurs since they're shielded). For Persys, Xenophage was a pretty decent help since it hits hard and allows you to be decently mobile while shooting it, not needing to land a crit or predict a shot and doesn't need frequent reloads. Pair it with grenades and supers of course. Also double concussive dampener armour mods are a god send since everything except goblins deal AOE damage.
Frost-ee5, pimped out void sub class, 100 mobility = unlimited invisibility. Wich I heavily recommend for soloing anything
I recently tried this as a hunter, i got to the first boss and gave up due to the low damage i was doing, void hunters invis was so good and definitely worth a 2nd attempt when I've preped up
This vid is hilarious 😂
Man really said that this dungeon was brutualy challenging, only solo flawless that I have done first try
I think Prophecy was the hardest solo flawless for me personally, only because it took me the longest time to complete if bugs aren't factored in but having 3/4 runs back to back ended in duality due to the bell glitch made me lose my mind haha. I don't think they're overly difficult usually but take me a run or two to get down then once I know all of the spawns etc I mop up, like for spire the first time I got to Persys I best them first try. The hardest thing in spire for me was unironically dying to a tiny gap that I kept falling through but wouldn't clamber even if it started the animation :' ) (also seriously love the effort put into the oldstyle infomercial bits!)
Edit: I'm still watching as of when this was written THAT SMALL LITTLE HOLE WHERE YOU FELL THROUGH that's the one I kept dying to haha. Three runs or so I think, called it a night and then did solo flawless first try of the next morning haha. Just saw the ending and ooF that was rough. You stuck it out like a champ tho so don't feel too bad!! You endured a lot, next time you'll kick it's butt!
Probably the hardest dungeon to solo would be duality, but I think it’s mostly because I originally tried doing it solo without any prior experience in doing the dungeon, so I was basically jumping in blindfolded
Bro the intro is golden
I tried, the first boss is kind of easy because once you cleared the adds after every energy activation there will be no adds during the dps phase and you only need to hit the eyes not wait and shoot them till they pop. This makes it a 4 Phase for the first boss. But the 2end this stupid chicken, i tried for 2 days used more then 150 banners (yes that is a 750k Glimmer i just wasted). I cant it broke me it made me never wanting to play this stupid ass dungeon ever again.
The chicken brakes warlock wells like he brock my spirit.
The chicken kicks you out of existence.
The supplicants sneak up to you and steal your money and f you without consent.
The buff bearers sometimes wandering off and following you around the hole map, just to reminding you about your cars extended warranties just to slap you in the face tp away and let the dirty work of finishing you off get done by the supplicants.
And even then when you get a got Routine a stupid ass Vex tps in front of you while you jump and kicks you out into the death boundary.
So you might think use healing nades, ah yes you might be right with that, but just to use them and get surprise f by a supplicant who was just trying to steal your school money.
So yes my spirt is broken and i will not touch the dungeon for an extended amount of time.