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Tracers are actually really good for dealing massive amounts of damage, specially big enemies like Caretaker. However, as showcased several time in the video, they consume ammo insanely fast, making them ineficient for most activities.
In case you didn’t realize Toad, Ager’s only has good dps (or above average I should say) when you use the alternative fire mode and consume your super. That’s why it wasn’t hitting as hard for you.
For anyone who doesn’t know, getting hit by Rhulk’s beams gives you stacks of pervading darkness, which will make you die sooner than others during final stand.
I love agers scepter. Use the catalyst and stack it with font of might and high energy fire and mantle of battle harmony and you have insane dps as well as the best ad clear weapon in the game
If you want a cool stasis build. Try out some crystal and shatter builds with disparity! The stasis aggressive pulse. The hakke origin trait lets it kill a crystal in two bullets out of its burst and it also just has goated perks. That think is the best non exotic stasis primary in the game
@@krownedkhaos4281 winter’s wouldn’t be all too good because you’d need to get an add kill every ~5s to refresh the buff, rather than just permanent 200% buff uptime with synthos.
You could put lead from gold on a crafted trace, then if you equip double special you get more heavy drops. After that all you need to do is shoot a rocket in the air to pick up the heavy bricks and boom you got more special ammo
@@samwbutcher this season’s trace rolls with voltshot, it’s either that or retraced path with incandescent for me most of the time now. Double special + a heavy ammo finder is insanity, the sheer amount of bricks is borderline unfair
I have all of them. Augers has to be my favorite. With a void, arc, solar in the energy or power slots. Just whatever fits for whatever you're running. I also am very fond of running double trace ammo finder with trace rifles in both kinetic and energy slots. So much fun.
Having two specials equipped increases special ammo drops, since special ammo doesn't drop while killing with a special, unless you have two. The small ammo drops from ammo finder mods ignore this though
To answer your question, it depends on the build you create around the trace rifle. I don't have any raw damage numbers but with the mods we have currently, Cold Heart is a top tier dps weapon. I think it slightly out plays Aegers. Both are top tier on warlock.
Also remember that the person using agers isnt guaranteed to get the shatters from their own freezes so you inflate other peoples damage numbers by them shattering your freezes
Aegers is undeniably the best dps trace rifle if you have the catalyst. The catalyst triples it's damage output while freezing and shattering all at the cost of draining your super. If you're running warlock you can use either mantle of battle harmony while on stasis subclass to regen your super extremely fast, or you can use geomags since for some reason the super drain is treated as if it's a mini chaos reach.
the sea people reference is funny given its the name given to a group of seafaring nomads that managed to singlehandedly bring about the collapse of the bronze age throughout the Mediterranean, almost ending the new kingdom era in Egypt.
If you build an arc warlock for ionic traces and have cold hart and the new exotic helmet for ionic traces it’s a pretty sick build. Traces give you more grenade energy for more damage, rift for survivability and they also make cold hart fire at full damage for longer
Toad you make such entertaining videos. You and your friends have such great chemistry, super well edited, and just fun ideas for videos. Keep up the good work
Just wanted to say, I have fallen in love with your channel. Not because you do hard stuff, but because you do funny shit. Best example: bread. Keep it up. Edit: Coldheart and agers can get up to 80% damage buffs, coldheart from sustained damage, and agers in catalyst. Wave splitter works best when volatile flow is mod since volatile plus high damage buff. Prometheus can ignite once every ~10 seconds alone. Ruinous does 30% more if the target was hit by a sphere. and div is div.
A challenge idea I think would be cool is "The OutBreak Challenge" Everyone can only uses Outbreak perfected and use an exotic armor piece that has a Siva Ornament (the ornament is not required)
Outbreak is actually REALLY good for boss DPS. The only catch is that EVERYONE has to use it because the gun damage stacks with other people nanites too.
@H13n12 Nah man definitely not. I was running double special literally yesterday and the amount of purple I was getting with no finder mods on is ridiculous. Try it and you'll see. For reference my build was Ager's, explosive personality and palmyra
Kinda surprised everyone didn’t have on Ager’s and then a legendary trace rifle in the second slot. Butni guess that would not be as diverse as all exotic traces. Still a really cool and fun looking challenge
While using agers you can use the stasis fragment that increases stasis explosion damage for even more DPS. Combine with the free dps from stasis turrets and I feel like stasis 'lock should've been a mainstay of this team, alongside void hunter
This was the video that made me subscribe (yes I'm late), so f*ing hilarious! Also I love Trace rifles aka frickin LAZER beams! Favorite is a toss up between Coldheart and Wavesplitter. 🤷♂️
Aegr's is ridiculous with the right build. Stasis subclass with elemental shards + elemental time dilation + 3xfont of might give you a damage buff with stasis weapons for 20s and you only have to break your stasis ice grenade shards. With the catalyst + damage buff you can do EXTREME amounts of damage for a long time.
Gotta give my "Fav trace" point to Ruinous Effigy. I'm a Void Warlock main so it suits my loadout plus the spheres it creates are fun to use. It's hilarious to just run into hordes of adds and just slam it down or slowly kill them with the shield drain.
Another banger vid as always toad! Always fun to see new ways content creators cause themselves pain. Speaking of, light ability only raid/dungeon when? It would be agony but I can see it being possible for like, duality. Don't underestimate voidlocks and arc hunters, lol
Ager’s is seriously underrated IMO. I always use it when I can in nightfalls cause the ad clear with freezing is incredible, and it definitely is one of the highest dps’ing trace rifles so you’re not missing out on much for a special ammo weapon.
Ruinous Effigy is surprisingly great with invis hunter. Pro tip: if youre invis when you pick up the ball, you can use the guard aura attack and not get taken out of invis.
the fact that they beat the raid with a trace and yet me and my group struggle with killing adds and reading pictures on a wall is the funniest thing to me
Their main problem always has been and for the forseeable future will still be ammo economy. The only one that doesn’t have that problem is hollow denial with lead from gold and double special.
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You called caretaker morgeth
The real pain is when you realise they did more dps on caretaker with only traces than some people do with normal loadouts
Lmao true
Ikr lmao 😂
like straight facts
Tracers are actually really good for dealing massive amounts of damage, specially big enemies like Caretaker. However, as showcased several time in the video, they consume ammo insanely fast, making them ineficient for most activities.
the pain is when you realize people actually find this kind of content enjoyable
6:37 morgeth is my favorite vow encounter
i was just about to say this XD
Morgeth from vow, Golgoroth from last wish, and caretaker from king’s fall are my favorite ogres
I literally was about to say that
IKR, apart from Aksis at the end of course ;)
we love morgeth
In case you didn’t realize Toad, Ager’s only has good dps (or above average I should say) when you use the alternative fire mode and consume your super. That’s why it wasn’t hitting as hard for you.
It is poggers I used it against golgoroth once after running out of cataclysmic ammo.
Yeah It was kinda a little painful to watch him, especially because he had like the shortest super in the game
@@ammonbergevin5302 this moment was pain to see
Godlike adclear even if you aren’t using will given form.
For anyone who doesn’t know, getting hit by Rhulk’s beams gives you stacks of pervading darkness, which will make you die sooner than others during final stand.
But, with the Umbral sharpening mod on a piece of the raid gear it can sometimes be beneficial to get hit by a beam during dps for some extra damage
Thanks I didn’t know this
@@giratinathe_distorter7480 or just have phenix protocol/ witherhoard x6 and then just destroy the boss.
@@Toothlessthedragon_ that isn’t as fun as umbral sharpening though
@@Toothlessthedragon_ more than 1 witherhoard doesn’t stack damage, 5 people would be wasting an exotic weapon slot with this.
I love agers scepter. Use the catalyst and stack it with font of might and high energy fire and mantle of battle harmony and you have insane dps as well as the best ad clear weapon in the game
Yessiree. That is a warlock build that's never left my inventory.
If you want a cool stasis build. Try out some crystal and shatter builds with disparity! The stasis aggressive pulse. The hakke origin trait lets it kill a crystal in two bullets out of its burst and it also just has goated perks. That think is the best non exotic stasis primary in the game
That's the build I took every vow raid
And Bungie is gutting all of that in Lightfall, so have fun with it while you can.
Such a slept on build honestly. Hasn't left my character for the longest time
Caretaker with Glaives Only might actually be possible now because of Judgement of Kelgorath and the current DPS Meta
definitely possible with synthos
Sup paegr
Ad necrotic grip and winters guile
@@krownedkhaos4281 winter’s wouldn’t be all too good because you’d need to get an add kill every ~5s to refresh the buff, rather than just permanent 200% buff uptime with synthos.
You should've also been allowed to use chaos reach it's basically a trace rifle
Exactly
0:01 Welcome to Vow of the Lasers (or) Vow of the Trace rifles!
oh my gosh how do you manage to make the challenges even more goofy and hard every time
funnily enough all their failings is skill issue and not cause of trace rifle
20:16 The “I’ll be nice, once… then I won’t” made me laugh way harder than it should have
You could put lead from gold on a crafted trace, then if you equip double special you get more heavy drops. After that all you need to do is shoot a rocket in the air to pick up the heavy bricks and boom you got more special ammo
I forgot legendary trace rifles existed until this lol. I literally have 3 crafted aswell.
@@samwbutcher this season’s trace rolls with voltshot, it’s either that or retraced path with incandescent for me most of the time now. Double special + a heavy ammo finder is insanity, the sheer amount of bricks is borderline unfair
he was so concerned with whether he could, he never stopped to consider if he should
6:37 glad to see Morgeth is finding good work these days
I always appreciate a good CoD Zombies reference
lore: guardians they've killed gods turned them into weapons of mass destruction
gameplay: haha lazer pointer goes BRRRR on boss
the funny thing is that toad is just having fun with his homies and make videos about it keep it upp bro
first time ive seen an ad on YT and actually had a need for the product
The nogla meme got me lol.
These videos consistently have me in tears 😂 keep em comin!
I have all of them. Augers has to be my favorite. With a void, arc, solar in the energy or power slots. Just whatever fits for whatever you're running. I also am very fond of running double trace ammo finder with trace rifles in both kinetic and energy slots. So much fun.
Having two specials equipped increases special ammo drops, since special ammo doesn't drop while killing with a special, unless you have two. The small ammo drops from ammo finder mods ignore this though
my guy called caretaker morgeth. from a banger video this caught me off guard and was deffo a haha moment. Absolutely love your videos.
Oh shit your right! lmao
Forgiveness 🙏
To answer your question, it depends on the build you create around the trace rifle. I don't have any raw damage numbers but with the mods we have currently, Cold Heart is a top tier dps weapon. I think it slightly out plays Aegers. Both are top tier on warlock.
I think agers has a more consistently higher dps with a full build because it can self proc font and even high energy fire with the catalyst
Also remember that the person using agers isnt guaranteed to get the shatters from their own freezes so you inflate other peoples damage numbers by them shattering your freezes
watching this in class with no regrets
Bro! Editing style is so smooth! Great banter, fantastic playing, keep this up and you'll be one of the big ones soon!
Another banger vid as usual
Aegers is undeniably the best dps trace rifle if you have the catalyst. The catalyst triples it's damage output while freezing and shattering all at the cost of draining your super. If you're running warlock you can use either mantle of battle harmony while on stasis subclass to regen your super extremely fast, or you can use geomags since for some reason the super drain is treated as if it's a mini chaos reach.
8:52 I love how Nogla slowly appears in the corner
Kinda sad Chaos reach wasn't an allowed super, lol
Your antics never cease to amuse me, Children of Light.
Oh my goshness, I'm you're biggest fan
please indoctrinate me
@@ninjawithramen Indoctrinate? No. I need only make you see the truth, little one.
@@Rhulk_Disciple_of_the_Witness
Show me
please
open my eyes
I've been blinded by the light
the sea people reference is funny given its the name given to a group of seafaring nomads that managed to singlehandedly bring about the collapse of the bronze age throughout the Mediterranean, almost ending the new kingdom era in Egypt.
"Can you bet the a raid with only sniper rifles "
Now this is a question
If you build an arc warlock for ionic traces and have cold hart and the new exotic helmet for ionic traces it’s a pretty sick build. Traces give you more grenade energy for more damage, rift for survivability and they also make cold hart fire at full damage for longer
Ruinous effigy is my favorite exotic weapon, it might not be the best dps numbers wise but I just can’t help but love it’s mechanic.
Absolutely wild "The Well" reference holy shit. Props on another great video
laughing my ass off at black garden being "mexico"
I’m surprised they don’t know about the god-tier Agers warlock DPS build, it’s absolutely insane and super simple to set up
Toad you make such entertaining videos. You and your friends have such great chemistry, super well edited, and just fun ideas for videos. Keep up the good work
Amazing video as always! Seeing some trace rifle dps has made me incredibly happy
your videos make my day so much - the challenges yall do are always so entertaining
Love the editing on this!
Only 44,000 subs? You're getting my sub bro, that editing is top tier
Just wanted to say, I have fallen in love with your channel. Not because you do hard stuff, but because you do funny shit. Best example: bread. Keep it up.
Edit: Coldheart and agers can get up to 80% damage buffs, coldheart from sustained damage, and agers in catalyst. Wave splitter works best when volatile flow is mod since volatile plus high damage buff. Prometheus can ignite once every ~10 seconds alone. Ruinous does 30% more if the target was hit by a sphere. and div is div.
gotta love john playing basketball during the raid
A challenge idea I think would be cool is "The OutBreak Challenge" Everyone can only uses Outbreak perfected and use an exotic armor piece that has a Siva Ornament (the ornament is not required)
Outbreak is actually REALLY good for boss DPS. The only catch is that EVERYONE has to use it because the gun damage stacks with other people nanites too.
Discovered your videos entirely on accident but I've been enjoying them a lot.
This was awesome. "Playing Laser tag with Rhul" f***ing sent me hahahaha
agers scepter is probably the strongest trace in this since you can run another trace with it
but the ammo problem would be insane. ager is way more than powerful enough to just run it on its own.
Running double special increases the amount of special ammo and heavy ammo drops for you
@@roblowe3889 it doesn't anymore. they literally said that it was a bug and that they have patched it.
With the catalyst you can drain your super to empower it so yeah
@H13n12 Nah man definitely not. I was running double special literally yesterday and the amount of purple I was getting with no finder mods on is ridiculous. Try it and you'll see. For reference my build was Ager's, explosive personality and palmyra
Maaan... Raids seem so fun, I've been playing for ages and still don't know what it's like to do a raid... The pain of having no friends
Kinda surprised everyone didn’t have on Ager’s and then a legendary trace rifle in the second slot. Butni guess that would not be as diverse as all exotic traces. Still a really cool and fun looking challenge
I saw that mrtlexify well clip. ;) you guys and gals are insane. Thanks for the entertaining video. :)
This is just amazing. Didn’t even know this possible. Such a great video. Now you gotta do this on Vault of Glass haha
While using agers you can use the stasis fragment that increases stasis explosion damage for even more DPS. Combine with the free dps from stasis turrets and I feel like stasis 'lock should've been a mainstay of this team, alongside void hunter
It only increases the damage by 5%
Bro the MrTLexify Well meme was incredible. You’re a man of culture I see
Next Challenge, Can you beat VOG with Leviathans Breath
No, don’t make him go insane…
Love the well z house clip. That was pinnacle zombies.
This was the video that made me subscribe (yes I'm late), so f*ing hilarious!
Also I love Trace rifles aka frickin LAZER beams! Favorite is a toss up between Coldheart and Wavesplitter. 🤷♂️
Just say this video and cheered in my head and shook my fist in the air out of excitement. The day is perfect
Aegr's is ridiculous with the right build. Stasis subclass with elemental shards + elemental time dilation + 3xfont of might give you a damage buff with stasis weapons for 20s and you only have to break your stasis ice grenade shards. With the catalyst + damage buff you can do EXTREME amounts of damage for a long time.
New toad video in class? Say leasss
You know with mod changes in Lightfall I feel this would be much easier. Being able to constantly produce ammo and almost constant surge mod uptime.
8:53 nogla pop out of nowhere😂
Ayo wait. Redrix is here? This is a collab I didn't think I'd see happen
Gotta give my "Fav trace" point to Ruinous Effigy. I'm a Void Warlock main so it suits my loadout plus the spheres it creates are fun to use. It's hilarious to just run into hordes of adds and just slam it down or slowly kill them with the shield drain.
Another banger vid as always toad! Always fun to see new ways content creators cause themselves pain. Speaking of, light ability only raid/dungeon when? It would be agony but I can see it being possible for like, duality. Don't underestimate voidlocks and arc hunters, lol
That KSI at the end is too perfect 😭
I'm so glad someone else uses the mexico callout
Love the light show U guys did 😂
you should have allowed chaos reach as a super since its a massive death laser
Optimal dps should be aegers, because you can super charge it immediately and it's easier to get font of might on stasis weapons
I love this video, glad it is back
My God these vids are literally so funny they create a thin wall keeping me from committing die
Hell yeah, Toadsmoothie’s back baby!
I wonder if and when there’ll ever be a heavy trace rifle…
1k voices is pretty much a heavy trace rifle
@@dhaneshwickremasurendra7552 Yeah true
We love morgeth
I’m looking forward to your Lightfall Nuzlocke toad
This video got me addicted to boss melting with coldheart. Never realized how good trace rifles really are.
Ager’s is seriously underrated IMO. I always use it when I can in nightfalls cause the ad clear with freezing is incredible, and it definitely is one of the highest dps’ing trace rifles so you’re not missing out on much for a special ammo weapon.
I would love to see this run happen again when the heavy Trace rifle comes out. Maybe try all of the raids?
Great video. Love the concept
That thumbnail is next level. Haven't seen anything in that quality yet.
Glad to see you’re getting some sponsors boss.
That rulk fight made me realize how titans don't think where they pop that bubble and ruin everything.
Yeah, Ager’s with catalyst is cracked. I use it for DPS in King’s Fall and it keeps up remarkably well.
This video was hilarious. Subbed
Man you've got better caretaker boss music than the game
I don't why but I freaking lost it when they were walking up to care taker and he turned around..."the f*ck you say to me you little sh*t" 😂😂😂
Ruinous Effigy is surprisingly great with invis hunter. Pro tip: if youre invis when you pick up the ball, you can use the guard aura attack and not get taken out of invis.
this guy doesn't miss at all, good stuff
If you do this in another raid you should allow single shot tether since it primarily serves as a debuff to make your traces better
If John had the Effigy's Catalyst you'd be looking at a completely different tier list
imagine being an eons old God and getting clowned on by a bunch of bright monkeys with laser pointers
The well is to this day one of Lex's most iconic dance moves and even Toadsmoothie knows it
Font stacking with Agers and it's super beam from the catty is almost as good as a linear lol
Angers septer is amazing with the catalyst it’s a beast
Wave splitter, void hunter, gyrfalcons is such a fun build. I’ve been using it just for shits and giggles lately and it low key shreds.
the fact that they beat the raid with a trace and yet me and my group struggle with killing adds and reading pictures on a wall is the funniest thing to me
Honestly my experience with this raid has mostly been “can you beat vow of the disciple on lfg” the answer is about 45% percent of the time yes
I don’t how it’s 45% when I always finish raids on lfg
@@LOYAL10211 because your lucky
@@Plaidbobcat how? I Lfg everyday and get people to finish raids
Trace rifle are really underrated in pve
Their main problem always has been and for the forseeable future will still be ammo economy.
The only one that doesn’t have that problem is hollow denial with lead from gold and double special.