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A Farewell to Jo | The Green Death | Doctor Who
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2013
- Jo accepts Professor Jones' marriage proposal, which means leaving The Doctor. Taken from the episode "The Green Death."
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Pertwee looks genuinely hurt here. Great performance. Very underrated as an actor.
@Freddie faulig I agree, the scene was quite profound indeed. Really moving just by Jon's performance, didn't need music to invoke the emotion !
He looks devastated. What a performance
he probably didn't have to act that much, not that he couldn't but I expect he was sad she was leaving the show.
Extremely underrated. He was superb, as is his son as it goes
@@MobiusBandwidth He was. He said that Katy Manning and Barry Letts leaving as well as the death of Roger Delgado is why he ended up leaving. That and a fear of being typecast.
The moment when Jo glances over and sees the door closing is chilling; happy and sad at the same time.
One of the best scenes ever in the entire series.
Yup. Bittersweet.
Jo’s and Sarah’s farewells are the two most heartfelt for me.
As river states in New who the doctor hates goodbyes, because he doesn’t like endings. Xx
*_“You can spend the rest of your life with me, but I can’t spend the rest of mine with you. I have to live on. Alone. That’s the curse of the Time Lords.”_*
Bone chilling words so you got to ask you're self is dieing so really bad after all? There are fates worst than death.
Well, if he only looked for other time lords to hook up with who he can share theyre entire life spans then it isnt a curse, i know that he said that when he thought gallifrey and the time lords where gone, but after discovering later in life that they were alive, the doctor in this new season could look a time lord for couple
“Your future belongs with him and not with a silly old buffer like me...”
Well spoken
The Doctor bids farewell to his companion, and departs under an alien sky, alone. One of the saddest moments in the classic series.
Arguably one of the saddest scenes in the entire series.
Ranks right up there with the moment he says goodbye to Jamie at the end of The War Games.
Hm.
And you didn't need a loud intrusive score to tell the audience to be sad.
@@minicle426oh come on, Murray gold's music is magical and elevates (most) scenes it's in.
Jon Pertwee's acting skills are terribly underrated. He was probably the second or third most disciplined and subtle actor to partake on the show.
With the sheep, lambs and dogs in the background as the Doctor drives off in Bessie, it feels quite a strong and emotional scene. On The Green Death DVD commentary, Katy Manning actually cries at that scene. I think it is because this was the first time she had seen it since Jon Pertwee sadly passed away in 1996. May he rest in peace.
The commentary's great. Katy Manning is obviously a huge luvvie but it's hard to dislike her.
It's almost a shame Jon didn't live long enough to do some commentaries. :(
Rip Jon Pertwee
@@minicle426 Yes, that's something Katy once expressed in an interview, about how sad it is Jon couldn't be around to do the commentaries and to tell all the stories during his years on Doctor Who.
I am surprised he really didn't cry I would have cried by now
From Roger passing away; to Katy leaving. I can see why Jon wanted to leave.
Such an underrated Doctor.
I've been catching some of those stories again after many years.
The "UNIT family", which included Roger Delgado's Master, was a delight. Those continued relationships added a lot of emotional resonance and humor.
Hm.
Another pointless _"underrated"_ comment from somebody with nothing to say..
Jon Pertwee was not underrated at all. He was the highest rated Doctor until Tom Baker. He was the first Doctor that wasn’t an old grumpy hobo. He was intelligent, brave, cunning, and kind. Oh, and very nicely dressed.
I think this scene is as much Pertwee deciding to say goodbye to the role as his charcater being upset at Jo leaving.
This was officially a children's show. This shows how subtle and deep it could be. Earlier in the story the Doctor says that whilst a human can spend their entire life with him, he can never do the same with them. He is doomed to always see his friends and adopted family either leave or die. Here the Doctor clearly finds parting from Jo unbearable, and has to get away, as he doesn't want to spoil her happiness or make her feel guilty at leaving him. The way he drives off into a cold winter sunset alone emphasises that he is in the end an outsider, an alien, a very old and very lonely one at that. It's a lovely but very sad scene, and a tribute to the immense rapport that Jon Pertwee and Katy Manning had established and reflected in their characters. It's often said that the sad death of Roger Delgado and then Katy Manning leaving the show strongly influenced Jon Pertwee's own decision to quit. He clearly loved being the Doctor, and lived the part when attending conventions and so on.
The close and affectionate relationship between Katy Manning and Jon Pertwee is apparent in the DVD commentary. Where Katy actually starts crying at this scene.
You take this scene and Pertwee's regeneration scene, you realize what a great actor he was.
That scene was so beautiful and bittersweet... Jon Pertwee's reaction to Jo's leaving was so poignant... I also imagine it wasn't hard for him to feel that way, as he was already saddened by the death of his good friend Roger Delgado not weeks before that serial... Everything from that scene is so perfect... It was one of the very few Classic scenes that made me cry...
It's weird to remember a time when The Doctor's companions just simply went off with their lives before getting some fate worse than death as their sendoff. Jo and Sarah had it lucky compared to some of their successors in the 80s and 00's.
@@Crrrow Most of the companions did simply go home, or find a new home.
The only deaths of companions were Katarina and Sara Kingdom. And unlike the modern series, they stated dead.
@@zacmumblethunder7466 You left out Peri Brown and Adric.
@@Crrrow I was replying to the comment that said 60s and 70s companions had happier exits than the 80s and 00s ones.
Peri was a pioneer though, her character foreshadowed the modern trend for companions to die then come back to life.
They actually made companion departures back then more somewhat realistic back then Like with Jo wanting to get on with her personal life or Nyssa and Romana wanting to help a suffering civilization or Tegan realizing traveling has started to negatively effect her mental well being now it’s all melodramatic and painful!
Martha left to take care of her family and knowing love is pointless at this point. Graham, Ryan and Dan left to continue with their lives
And Yaz
She left because she knew it's pointless to love anymore.
I was an eight year old girl in June 1973, when this episode was broadcast. Jo Grant was my first favourite companion (called an assistant in those days). I watched the Doctor say goodbye to my beloved Jo in this memorable scene and I was heartbroken, when she left to get married.
The Third Doctor (Jon Pertwee) was my favourite from the Classic series. When Tom Baker took over the role in 1974, I was still expecting Pertwee to walk through the door at any moment.
Katy Manning, who played Jo Grant, is the only surviving actor to play a companion during Pertwee's tenure.
Jo Grant and Sarah Jane Smith will always be my favourite companions from the classic series and I love them equally.
Best wishes, Katy and thank you for making Jo such a beautiful and memorable character.
Thank you, BBC, for sharing this beautiful and memorable scene.
not quite sgt Benton still lives, and yes the unit crew the brig and benton counted as 3rd doctor companions
That pause the Doctor has before he drives off in Bessie, you can see it in Jon's face that's he's thinking, 'Well, that's it. I am not doing anymore after the next season. Roger's dead, Katy has now left and now Barry and Terrence have said they're leaving, so there's nothing left for me now.' Still one of the most emotional endings in the show history.
Had Roger died yet when they recorded this?
RassilonTDavros I've checked and he had actually died five days before Episode Six aired. But Jon had said that his death was one of the reasons he left the show.
That's really & truly sad.
BronyDan that's not right. He appeared in the five doctors which was ten years later
Jon Pertwee was in The Five Doctors in 1983 but Roger Delgado had long since passed on by then.
RIP Stewart Bevan, a fine actor and by all accounts a lovely man.
Pertwee was superb in this scene. I was only 14 when this first went out but I remember feeling sad for one of my favourite Doctors. RIP Jon.
This is how you do companion goodbyes in Doctor Who. Not overly sentimental and loud music and characters crying and being overly schmaltzy.
Sometimes less really is more.
What makes this departure one of the best is how relatable this is to us in real life. Seeing a close friend with another can be really heart breaking, sometimes a good thing too...
I had forgotten just how beautifully done this was. So understated in every way and so much more poignant... no music (much as I love Murray Gold), just so well acted, scripted and shot. Pertwee and Katy Manning are brilliant, but so is Richard Franklin as Mike Yates, trying to hide how gutted he is! Superb.
tinysteelorchestra Right. I believe in the commentary, Barry Letts or Terrance Dicks said that Mike Yates was intended to be a love interest for Jo Grant. In the beginning of The curse of Paledon, she tells the Doctor that she got all dolled up for a night on the town with Mike Yates.
@@Prayerman2009 it's a shame they didn't include Mike a bit more and develop that love story. Though as far as I'm aware it's alluded to more in the spin off stories, still need to check those out.
@@richardd9938 The love story was dropped as the oroduction team realised that the Doctor and Jo had an interesting father/daughter type relationship and a love story with a Yates would detract from that.
@@zacmumblethunder7466 yeah, and the fact they'd never wanted UNIT in the first place haha.
@@richardd9938 Despite that, they still made the UNIT obesy some of the best ever Dr Who stories ever. Yes, I'm biased, JP is "my" Doctor.
This for me is the best and most poignant companion farewell of them all. Simply beautiful.
One of the best and honestly emotional scenes from the classic Doctor Who. All the actors did absolutely great in it. In the DVD commentary for this story, Katy Manning breaks-down emotionally, when describing what it was like to film this scene.
Stunning, the very finest moment with the third doctor and Jo. I remember watching it on the day of transmission. “The Green Death” was so good, so scary and so thought provoking on every level.
Big Finish recently released a new Third Doctor Adventures boxset called "The Return of Jo Jones" where Jo reunites with the Third Doctor years later and after having met the Eleventh Doctor which she described him as "the very young chap with hair and bowtie."
Easily the saddest exit of any companion, closely followed by Jamie and Zoe’s departure.
I personally get a tiny bit more tearful at Donna's exit, but this is right up there.
Sarah Jane's departure is up there, talking to the labrador lying on the pavement while holding all her belongings and then that look up to the sky as she walks away.
@@Althalus2010 Never liked Donna. Hugely overated.
@@minicle426insane take
Just reached this episode tonight. I was so sad to see Jo leave. Seasons 8 - 10 with Jon Pertwee, Katy Manning, and Roger Delgado really was something special.
I always find it odd when people say that the classic series lacked emotion. This is one of the best scenes of emotion from the series. Silent, and understated. Beautifully done.
What they mean is there's a lack of soap opera style emotion. When the new era does emotion it's always over the top and flooded with *big music* preferably with drums and choirs.
Be nice if the revival took notes from this. Rather than milking their 'emotional' scenes to the point of absurdity...
@@minicle426 They do that because the plots and scripts are inferior.
@@zacmumblethunder7466watching NuWho feels like watching Eastenders half the time 😂
@Mark-nh2hs "Cor, blimey, Davros, leave it aht. You're not my farva"
"Yes I aaaaam!"
RTD'SMs next shock twist.
This shows you do not need to kill off or have the companion in some massive jeopardy for them to leave. This is so simple yet so emotional. Also I think the lack of music, the silence works so well. Sometimes sad music can feel like your being told to be sad
THIS...THIS!! Is the best scene in doctor who history, comradely, sentiments, solemn and just staggering perfect in every way, right down to the duke box and the startled sheep, oh and the music credits kicking in behind a welsh dusk! Wow
The Brig, Yates, and Benton singing for he's a jolly good fellow on the back...
The Third Doctor and Jo were my first Doctor and companion when I began watching the series on our public broadcasting station ages ago. I was fortunate to have met Mr. Pertwee. I was sad to see Jo depart but all those years later was happy at her return to the series.
Fun Fact. Mark Gatiss used this scene for inspiration for the end of The Sign Of Three in BBC's Sherlock where Sherlock leaves the party early. So sad
1:23 And from that moment, Three's fate was sealed.
whadyamean?
+☻ Spezzy Lemon and Banana ☻ He would go on falling in love with airheads, and the show becomes insanely popular post 2005 reboot, teenagers become entranced by Dr.Who..can't buy enough Tardis stuff.. Writers and producers make a gazillion dollars.. Stephen Moffat, please take a bow. That's what he means.
+☻ Spezzy Lemon and Banana ☻ His decision to give Jo the blue crystal would later come back to haunt him in 'The Planet of the Spiders'.
+Ian Heier Actually I was referring to how much trouble that blue crystal caused, like Zygon1975 said.
RassilonTDavros I agree. He decided he didn't want to do it anymore.
Jo had perhaps one of the saddest on screen departures for the classic series, one that at the time was particularly rare. Sometimes companions are left behind, forced to leave, or, in the saddest and rarest of cases, die. But Jo, she did something different, she found a reason to stay behind. She is having an adventure that the Doctor couldn't have, finding someone she wants to share her life with, someone she can have adventures with, someone she can start a family with, and someone she could grow old with.
Jo was the definitive companion for the Third Doctor, the one who had the most on screen adventures with them.
One of the most moving scenes in the show's history, imo. Jon Pertwee could say so much in just a few words.
The Doctor: Well, here we go for like the fiftieth time now! At least he will look after her. Come one Bessie, It’s just you and me again!
The 70s win my vote for the best decade of classic Doctor Who and especially thanks to some of the most heartfelt moments like this one.
I've always found this ending unlike anything I've seen in classic Doctor Who. The evident emotions, quality end for a companion and beautiful camera work at the end, I remember when I first watched it feeling that was an excellent way to close a series.
That's the thing that I love about The Third DOctor, he was willing to .... allow his companion to be happy and it meant that he wouldn't see them again for a long time
The silence in this scene makes it so emotionally impactful, this is what New Who doesn’t dare to do for all the wrong reasons. However, New Who has its fair share of emotional moments as well, many much more than this, the approach that this takes to a companion departure is better than any New Who has produced for that same field. I seem to be one of the few people who didn’t feel upset at Rose’s departure, for example... but this just nails it
Jo's goodbye scene is well acted. I like that shot of The Doctor driving away into the sunset at 3:02.
I remember this from back in the day, I was about 6 when the Green Death was shown and I was terrified of the maggots, but I really loved Jo. She appealed so much to little kids cos she was a little kid herself, it took me quite a while to get the hang of bossy Sarah. I was heartbroken when Jo left. And that last scene with the Doctor driving off alone is burned on my heart. brilliant stuff!
assuming how long sarah lasted you got used to her right?
@@lexezlao oh yeah, I fell in love Sarah as well.
Aww! A mixed sad and happy moment for Joe. I can remember watching this episode for the first time and felt sad watching this scene. Thank you for sharing this at the BBC.
37 years later...
Mary Jane: "Everybody knows he can changes his face"
Jo Grant: "But what? Into a baby's?"
11th Doctor: "Oy, imagine it from my point of view! Last time I saw you, Jo Grant, you were what, 21, 22? It's like someone baked you."
Elizabeth Sladen said in her autobiography that Jon took Katie's departure badly.
He was also dealing with the loss of his good friend who played the Master, who had died in an automobile accident in the mountains. I'm sure he was sad about losing Katy Manning at about the same timeframe, though. You do get attached to your co-stars. And the Doctor's companions do probably become the Doctor's real life friends as often as they are together. In the end - they break the Doctor's heart.
This just proves how powerful this scene is when I tear up everytime as this but never even tear up at any other companion depature aside from Donna. In terms of just straight up saying alot without any words this is a perfect example. You can clearly see that they are sad to be parting ways with each other and like someone said the look on the doctor's face at the end clearly is Jon Pertwee saying that after the next season I am done. You can tell I am a third doctor fan.
This one scene showed me why Jon Pertwee was an amamzing actor and an amazing doctor
They picked the right man to the play the 3rd doctor
did anyone notice how the ending of last night's Sherlock was based on this
Yes! That's what I was thinking. The ending of last night's episode reminded me of this!
GATISS!
(Before anyone points out that the episode was written by Steve Thompson, it was actually the first episode to be credited to all three writers: Thompson, Gatiss and Moffat. I say Gatiss in particular because Pertwee was his Doctor.)
Cryer24597 Agreed
That's what I was thinking. Or it least they were very similar.
That's so awesome. And very meta since Sherlock Holmes partly inspired Doctor Who in the first place. It's a bit like how they made Moriarty more like John Simm as the Master
since last night was THREE YEARS AGO for you I may have to use my TARDIS [UA-cam in this case!] and see what you meant there's a bit of a detective in me so I' may be able to search it out great scene made me love JO even more!!
This combined with Roger Delgado’s traumatic death, signaled the end of a happy era for our beloved 3rd Doctor... 💔💔💔
This was his down hill spirl
0:08 Poor Mike realizing he's lost his beard.
Notice Mike Yates' downcast expression when Jo announces she is getting married. This was intentional on the part of the director. Because the Yates character had an attraction to Jo earlier in the series. And now she is marrying someone else.
I remember watching some of the classics when I was little, and I really loved this Doctor...it was the eyebrows...but I felt so bad for him at this moment, going off on his own.
Anyone who says Classic Who wasn't nuanced needs to watch this and the final part of 'The War Games'.
John gives it his best in the scene, the face of sadness in him. Knowing he’s gone through it soo many times. Classic who wasn’t all about emotional dramatic moment’s, but this certainly was something...
I came back to this because Stewart Bevan’s passing!!!!
Then again this scene will always get me teary!!!
Is it me or does the Brigadier sound really drunk when he’s singing along with ‘jolly good fellow?’ Off duty I guess
I’m so sad picturing Jo saving a piece of cake for her Doctor, who never came.
This is what you get when everyone involved truly loves the art that they are creating. This is shot like a film and conveys so much with little to no dialogue towards the end.
The departure of the companion has weight to it that wasn’t always the case in classic who.
I feel sorry for Jon. You can tell he's upset with Katy leaving.
Such a emotional farewell Jo was brilliant
at least one of his hearts breaks there :) (and so does mine)... sad but wonderful farewell!
The Green Mile was always one of my favorites. To end with news of a Wedding was lovely for Jo, for but very sad for the Doctor, and Jo Grant fans such as myself. This was a beautiful and sad scene. The Doctor has lost his bubbly companion. Everyone was sorry to see her go. The way Jon snuck out was brilliant.. he felt hurt, I too had fallen in love with her and was upset too.
@Stevean2 my bad yes, the green death
One of the most memorable moments in Doctor Who and a moment that defines the Pertwee era of Doctor Who. That and the chase sequence in Planet of the Spiders
The Doctor telling a Thal "Courage isn't just a matter of not being frightened; it's being afraid and doing what you have to do anyway"
Jon Pertwee. The most human doctor. And mine.
The writing here is EXEMPLARY. Jon deflects Joe's question with a joke "Mind? He may even make a scientist out of you".
The sadness in the conversation becomes so apparent when they both joke about "Saving a piece of Wedding cake".. a clandestine admission that they both accept that this is the last time they will ever see each other, & that they'd rather joke about it because it's just too painful to speak frankly otherwise; which would ruin the party & the relationship.
The look on Jon's face is one of "Odi Et Amo". As the old poem goes... "I Love, & Hate. Why I do this? Perhaps you ask? I do not know. But I sense it is happening, & I am Tortured."
He realises that in putting Jo's feelings before his own; the act of love perhaps? He is destroying himself. And the only distraction from this recurring existence... is discovery.
...The key enters the Tardis once more.
Makes me cry every time.
Its so much more effective than what they do in NuWho.
Nu Hu is a joke. Capaldi didn't take long to sense that it was The Steven Mofftwat show. And that unlike the people in this era who let Pat, Jon & Tom develop their character freely, Capaldi isn't given ANY say in what his says, how he utters it, & how much music is banging away over the top; casting aspersions on his acting ability.
NOTE: There is NO gay music hamming the scenes up. Telling the audience how they should be feeling. The actors here are allowed to do their jobs & give a timeless performance. Moffat has NEVER understood this.
Caldera Records even though I love Moffats seasons I agree with this
This scene was absolutely beautiful but Davies did the emotional music thing even more dramatically than Moffat. He practically set the precedent for the trend. Also, the final scenes of the Zygon Inversion, parts of Heaven Sent and Hell Bent completely lose the music just to showcase Capaldi and Coleman's performance so condemning Moffat for this isn't completely fair anymore.
And the moment you decided to use 'gay' as a negative adjective, Caldera, I lost all interest in what you were saying.
At least years later he would see her again :)
but with mr dispy
@@alexrobinson3970 mr dispy? I don't follow.
@@ethanruzic8071 I think they’re talking about her meeting 11 in _”Death of the Doctor”._
sad day when Katy Manning [JO GRANT] left doctor who in the green death 1973 as she is was one of my favourite companions
another reason why i love Pertwees portrayal as The Third Doctor
sigh..........
You just can't be a fan of new *and* old Who can you? You just can't watch these videos without the self appointed Doctor Who elite leaving hateful remarks (comments which scream 'give me likes!!!') about RTD and Moffat, which nine times out of ten have almost nothing to do with the video at hand. It’s such a shame. I love Jo's exit and I love Rose's exit. I love nearly every Doctor Who episode (and Ive seen them all incase you're wondering). Sue me.
Well said! It's great to read intelligent comments, and to know that there are loving supportive fans out there who don't feel the need to get disturbed by other people's choices and who totally get it. Thank you. Christopher
***** Thank you guys. Thank you so much. I was starting to feel alone myself! I don't know why this fandom is so hateful sometimes, it's pretty bad. Even if you don't love all of the incarnations of the Doctor, at least show some respect for them and the people who DO like them. I personally love them all! (Side note: Am I the only one who sees parallels between this scene and the scene from Sherlock where he leaves John and Mary's wedding? Don't know if Moffat did that on purpose, but it certainly added to the sadness factor when I watched this episode for the first time.)
Koschei Who I envy you this ability. I love Doctor Who. both New and Classic contain great, Good, Mediocre, Bad, and Horrible stories. in my opinion the Classics have a higher proportion of Great/Good, and the New has a higher proportion of Bad/Horrible. but I mostly can live and let live. what gets my dander up is when fans of the New Who act like the Classics don't exist, or condescend to the Classics because they are old, or when people are turned off by the New Who and so don't even consider the classics.
+Koschei Who Words of wisdom!
+MadManInABox try not to feel alone. I know what you mean. Sometimes the world can feel like a lonely place but dude, you're never alone. I read your comment, proof enough right?
This was I think the first time we truly got to see the depths of the Doctor’s loneliness. The modern series explores it quite a lot but it’s a lot more subtle and understated in the classic series.
Such a touching moment.
I think out of any ways of leaving, parting ways is always the saddest because just leaving everything you once had just like that is a reality check of this is it. One second you had this and the next you have nothing, such a raw feeling of loss and this perfectly shows it.
she appeared in the sarah jane adventures ..... would have been awesome if she still had the wedding cake
I think Mike Yates once had a crush on Jo Grant. I think.
They were intended to have some relationship but they had zero chemistry. Jo's relationship with the Doctor was way more believable. And, to be honestly, Mike kind of came off as gay. He had more chemistry with the Brigadier than with Jo.
Kaagh178 What books say that he is bisexual?
poor doctor he looks so sad
+Hannah Parfitt he is sad.
I think the word is heartbroken and devastated
This is 1000000000% more heartbreaking than Ten and Rose.
Cos unlike NuWho when a companion left they rarely ever return and are gone - with a few exceptions
The last scene of the Doctor Driving away was sad.
Undoubtedly the most moving companion departure in the show's long history. Beautifully filmed and very well-acted, particularly Pertwee. Sarah Jane's departure is not far behind.
There's a lot of good ones. Susan leaving "Goodbye, Susan. Goodbye, my dear". Leela and K9 deciding to stay on Gallifrey. Romana (Lalla Ward) stays in E-space "you were the noblest Romana of them all!. Nyssa stays on Terminus to cure the Lazars. Tegan leaves because she can no longer go on with all the death and destruction. And of course Adric - one of the very few companions to die.
I remember this, I thought it was possibly the most poignant moment in my 1970s Doctor Who DVD marathon.
Listening to the Wheezing Groaning sound podcast, had to come back and watch this, the show at its best
“They leave because they should or because they find someone els. And some of them, some of them forget me. I suppose in the end, they break my heart.”
The subtle sadness is played out far better in this scene then the overblown drama the new stuff has become.
I was just thinking the same thing.
Couldn't agree more. Now it has to be completely in your face with OTT music. There's absolutely no room for nuance these days. I guess most people watching just wouldn't get it.
I agree. The Term you use.. Nuance.. is very apt. It is a sign that the middle class has really shrunk. And that subtlety is utterly lost on a generation who have the attention span of a Guinea pig. Art has suffered more than anywhere else. And it so apparent in Dr Who.
Exactly. Just compare this scene to the Rose farewell. My goodness!
Ha! The goodbye scene for Rose is so overrated. The entire thing is overblown and the Doomsday score was only there to make it seem even more overly emotional. In most of, no, all of the reaction videos I watched for that scene, everyone was crying and saying it was the saddest moment in the show's history. I always hated both the 10th Doctor and Rose, but their romance was so cringe worthy that I want to throw up just thinking about it. The whole scene has no subtlety whatsoever... it's just Rose sobbing while the Doctor tries and fails to hold it together. It's so pathetic.
When I saw Rose's goodbye scene I felt no emotion whatsoever (except maybe irritation). Yet when I later watched this scene, the ending of The War Games, and many other classic companion exits I got a bit teary-eyed.
Yeah, Doctor Who has always had a very sad, lonely undercurrent throughout the entire series. It's just more emphasized in the new series. But it's always been there.
It's a fab expression (from Jon Pertwee - a comedic actor) of the love that can never be expressed. You can see it in Anastasia with Yul Brynner and Ingrid Bergmann. One thing I will say - I have all the Dr Who episodes that I can find on VHS and when my daughter, now 16, was little she loved the Jon Pertwee episodes more than ever. "He's just more of a person than the rest of them are!@ And I think that was true. Jon Pertwee was incredibly human and British upper lip whether that's good or bad. He got us through the 3 day week (and my parents were young at the time and loved it, even when there was no video signal so they could only have the Green Death on audio!) Is it any wonder my daughter's favourite Doctor is, apart from Jon, Peter Capaldi?
Honestly I could agree with that, Peter Capaldi definitely took in a lot from Jon’s doctor
Such a bittersweet episode! Jo is one of my favourite classic companions, so it's always sad when I watch this episode. Even though she leaves on a happy note (well, happy compared to most modern companions' exists, anyway!).
One of my favourite scenes from one of my favourite episodes. Such a poignant exit, letting someone you love go with whoever they’re in love with.
RIP Stewart Bevan (Prof. Jones)
Good for Doctor #3! I always found his never drinking to be a bit prim. I seem to recall someone offering Doctor #4 a drink and he opted for a "ginger pop" instead. Also, if memory serves Doctor #10 has a sip of wine in a Christmas episode (with the evil spinning Christmas tree). Not sure how the other Doctors fared in terms of drinking.
The 1st Doctor drinks mead in "The Time Meddler" and shares champagne with his companions on Christmas in "The Feast of Steven". The 3rd Doctor also drinks wine in "Day of the Daleks".
Poor 11 had scrambled taste buds and spat his wine out.
Doesn't 12 sip whisky in his first episode?
10 is shown holding a goblet of wine in _” The Girl in the Fireplace”._
What really caught my attention was how he downs his champagne in a gulp and leaves before the toast. Such a sad moment that really underscores how lonely and alienated he feels in the moment. Terrific Scene. And Katy does such a fantastic job. As an American, I never have seen many of the Pertwee episodes, but he gave so so much to the characterization of the Doctor that resonates down the years.
the only scene in doctor who i ever cried at
+Stefano Pavone From what I've read he did as Eight in the Big Finish Audio dramas...it doesn't exactly end well, though.
this scene just tears me up - the way she looks back as he leaves... :'$
everytime i see the doctor leaving the party i see myself on similar situations, the way it's shot, how it's completely silent, the expressions, the fact that it takes place in the night and the countryside
Sorry everyone, but the farewell to Rose in the new series couldn't hold a candle to this.
227060 I was talking about the way the scene was done. This showed us how sad the Doctor was to see his companion go without having to shove it in our faces the entire time (which Russel T Davies had to do since he couldn't create real chemistry between Rose and the Doctor to save his life). The Doctor regrets and he moves on; which cannot be said for Ten who pinned for Rose the entire season afterward (which is entirely out of character by the way).
Truett Edgell You're crazy and blind if you think Davies couldn't create real chemistry. I don't expect you to like Rose or the new series but to say Davies could bring chemistry shows you don't know what you're talking about. It's not hard to sense how well Piper and Tenant worked together, or Eccleston and Piper, or even Tenant and Tate. Whatever, it's just your opinion anyway.
+thisisntme I didn't feel Davies could create real chemistry. It was forced and unconvincing, like wanting it to exist hard enough was enough for him. His characters weren't a patch on Three and Jo's bond here.
Danny O'Gara
That's where you're wrong. Davies' characters worked quite well together. Billie Piper had amazing chemistry with both Eccleston and Tenant. Not to mention, Grant couldn't hold a candle to Rose Tyler.
+thisisntme Different eras,another generations different and new DR. WHO fans added among the old faithful,two different actors,two different companions,and anyway the DOCTOR is supposed to be the same man but different people with each regeneration.So expecting more of the same seems rather silly after all,doesn't it?
This is why Jon pertwee was and is the best Dr who
this scene is the definition of bittersweet
Such a sad scene......
a clear example of how not every goes right in dr.who. a lovely scene
The curse of the Doctor they leave or they die, Jo, Rose and Nyssa left, Adric so many others died.
It's nice to see Jo young, i've only seen her old in Sarah jane adventures.
Though the Doctor gave the Blue Cystal to Jo Grant as wedding present, it returned to him months later and cause some trouble for him & UNIT.
By far the saddest companion departure in the entire series.
Thanks for uploading this - it brings back so many memories.
Man, nothing tears at the heartstrings like Dr who.
Chokes me up everytime. Long live King Jon!