Shroud of Turin - Overview and scientific evidence
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Presented by Oliver Tseng at Perimeter Church - Harvesters Class on Aug 6, 2023
Part 1 of 4
1. Overview and scientific evidence
2. Argument for authenticity and countering skeptic arguments - • Shroud of Turin - Argu...
3. Body image and shroud history - • Shroud of Turin - Body...
4. Scripture and relevance - • Shroud of Turin - Scri...
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One of the best presentations I've seen on the shroud. Thank you
Thanks!
Outstanding, Oliver.
I truly enjoyed your analysis on the Shroud of Turin. I am looking forward for the other talks you will have on the shroud! Thank you !
Fascinating
When you mentioned the Sturp team studied the shroud for 5 days this took place in October, 1978. If you express this as 10/78 make it one number it is 1078 or 539x2. Babylon was conquered in 539 B.C. The importance of the Resurrection points to the 2nd time when God annihilates the Kingdom of Satan. The Shroud confirms this for us. Thank you for this wonderful presentation.
They Have explained why the blood is still red. When someone has died in a very painful way Their blood will remain red even when it is dried. It has to do with hemoglobin and oxygen in the blood.
The theory I've heard is the high bilirubin level caused by extreme torture would contribute to the blood remaining red.
Has anyone used the VP8 on negative photo of something, not a positive print which you would get after processing?
It don't think it would make a difference, but would simply be an inverted projection. The only thing the VP8 does is convert image density to height. If it was reverse, then it would convert it to depth.
@@OliverTseng1 ok thanks oliver your the best mate, keep up the great work, Q. has anyone did the same with the face cloth of just the image of jesus's face the Sudarium of Oviedo image, like the sturp team did?
@@7071t6 There is no body image on the face cloth. There is only blood and fluid stains.
A better translation of when John looked into the empty tomb and saw the cloths lying and believed...is he saw the cloths lying FLAT. As in the body had dematerialized and the cloths had fallen flat in place. That would cause anyone to believe. The body could have been stolen but the cloths would have been taken with the body or at least waded up and cast aside after unwrapping the body. But Why would anyone do THAT??
So...John believes in the ressurrection - because he's not stupid.
The thumbs are not shown because when he's wrist was damaged by the nails used, it damaged the nerves in the wrist thus making the thumbs go inwards?
I think that could be a factor as well, though some doctors dispute this.
Someone who Can do research needs to find the names of a few who the Savoys gave gifts of threads from the edge of the shroud in the 1500's, and track where those threads went. Then get the current owners to carbon date those well documented threads. Bet that would shut the ahteists up.
That's an interesting idea, though it'd be difficult to demonstrate the provenance of those shroud fragments.
what if someone used blood of a human to make the shroud and with bilirubin as well meaning that it was a man who was crucified and scourged as well on purpose, just like jesus, but it does not explain the furna and also to date the Carbon dating was done on a area were the shroud was repaired in the mediadevil fire in the 1500's?
So a new carbon dating assessment needs to be done on the shroud from the cloth were it was not damaged by fire or water, so near the head area or feet, not touching the blood but just the shroud linen only, but i believe no matter what this is the burial shroud of jesus full stop. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙌🙌👍👍❤❤✌✌😀😀
There is no evidence any medieval artist used real blood for any artwork, let alone the TS. It would be miraculous if he also knew about bilirubin to keep it red for centuries. As for C-14, I just created a video that debunks that.
I'm starting to think he wasn't a nice person
Who is the "he" that you are referring to?
Instead of using scientific methods use the Bible.
After all if it is about Jesus so why not use the scriptures.
Like Rev says Jesus was a black man with hair like that of fine wool.
Not a white man like all of the pictures with a white Jesus.
No i am not a black man just someone looking for the truth.
Burial cloth ok but not of Jesus.
I will be devoting an entire talk on the scriptures in part 4. Stay tuned for that video.
@@OliverTseng1 looking forward to it.
What is your opinion on the image being a Templar Knight ?
@@chrisguice139 I've never heard of the image being a Templar knight. But I do believe the Templars possessed the shroud at one point in time.
When black racists start to label Jesus as black, you know they rockin with satan. Also, that low IQ might be a punishment for your doubt.
Jesus's head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow. Of course He was not White either. He was Jewish.