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  • #shroud #shroudofturin #jesus #catholic
    In this episode of The Catholic Talk Show the guys are joined by Dr. Gilbert R. Lavoie, M.D. to examine the Shroud of Turin, comparing his scientific findings with Saint John’s Gospel account of the death and resurrection of Jesus.
    Episode 262:
    In this episode, you will learn:
    • The reason why the shroud image isn’t mentioned in the Gospels
    • Significant studies that demonstrate why the shroud cannot be a painting
    • Details that confirm that the man of the shroud was crucified
    • How the shroud corroborates the Gospel accounts of the death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus
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  • @CatholicTalkShow
    @CatholicTalkShow  3 місяці тому +53

    -- Get The Book Here:
    "The Shroud of Jesus And the Sign John Ingeniously Concealed"
    by Dr. Gilbert Lavoie -
    sophiainstitute.com/product/the-shroud-of-jesus/

    • @bachamadu2076
      @bachamadu2076 3 місяці тому

      An audience of this show, supposedly a Catholic or Universal show, check the little statues, which are on the table, can't see a wide range saints, from different parts of the world, who represent this Universal or Catholic faith. And this is the problem. I hope you take notice.

    • @shari0304able
      @shari0304able 3 місяці тому +4

      I'm reading Dr. Lavoie's book now...excellent research and greatly informative!

    • @leeriterii2128
      @leeriterii2128 3 місяці тому +1

      EPIPHANY

    • @stlouisix3
      @stlouisix3 3 місяці тому +3

      Jesus is God

    • @m0onm0th
      @m0onm0th 3 місяці тому +4

      @@bachamadu2076 They are bobbleheads, I don't think they are using them as idols lmao

  • @salmonkill7
    @salmonkill7 3 місяці тому +171

    I'm a PhD level Physicist that spent a career as an expert in how ionizing radiation interacts with materials and I developed ionizing radiation detectors for measuring nuclear weapons. I also developed radiation detectors for MEDICAL Cancer Therapy.
    I first saw THE SHROUD of TURIN images as a early teenager. My Catholic best friend brought home the images from Catholic summer school and I was fascinated with the images. Even then I knew this image was profound!
    After a 34 year career retirement from NATIONAL LABORATORY RESEARCH SCIENCE, I had the opportunity to teach Science classes at a small Christian High school. I couldn't help but notice the increased interest in the SHROUD the last several years, so I became reintroduced to the SHROUD and I began to study the 1978 STURP results and all the recent research and studies on the SHROUD.
    If you look at the SHROUD IMAGE itself, the fact it is similiar negative image like an XRAY, that intrigued me. Next I studied the DEPTH of penetration of the darkening of the SHROUD fibers and I determined the image itself only penetrates 50 - 200 NANOMETERS into the topmost microfibers! This is equivalent to dividing a human hair into 1000 equal parts, so the image is EXTREMELY SUPERFICIAL!! The only way to make such a superficial darkening of cloth fibers, REQUIRES access to a high energy particle accelerator. Particle accelerators were only created in the 1970s to 1980s!! This FACT ALONE means that IF the SHROUD is a FAKE, you would need modern day technology to make this type of linen darkening!! Paint or pigments were not found in the many tests on the SHROUD and besides if you PAINTED the SHROUD image, this causes the paint or pigment to wick into (absorb into) many of the burial linen fibers and the DEPTH of penetration would be quite deeper, and therefore as an EXPERT in IONIZING RADIATION DETECTION I can say DEFINITELY the SHROUD is AUTHENTIC!!
    Jesus was crucified, died, and was RESSURECTED and the SHROUD supports all of this with MATERIAL EVIDENCE and Christians should use the SHROUD to help persuade athiests that today are blinded by Science, to use Science to bring them to my Lord Jesus Christ!!

    • @mracjesstark3468
      @mracjesstark3468 3 місяці тому +10

      Wow.. Praise Jesus our Lord!

    • @bridget1780
      @bridget1780 3 місяці тому +8

      Thank you!

    • @marionchase-kleeves8311
      @marionchase-kleeves8311 3 місяці тому +12

      Thank you for your very scientific explanation! God made your mind and others like you, perceive these great mysteries. There is also 3D imaging in the image on the shroud. That in itself is a mystery only scientists could decipher. Who says Science and faith are incompatible!?

    • @salmonkill7
      @salmonkill7 3 місяці тому

      @marionchase-kleeves8311 I agree it's one of the great deceptions of athiests that have a Scientific Materialism Worldview!
      I have never seen anything in Science that opposes a Biblical Worldview.
      I'm not saying people of Faith agree on everything, because we definitely do not. But with my level of science training and 34 year career as a Staff Scientist I have never seen anything that even remotely conflicts with the Bible.

    • @beachbum6781
      @beachbum6781 2 місяці тому +5

      I'm not a scientist, but like yourself, was overwhelmed at a young age, by the Shroud. I don't know if you have seen the research by Mechanical Engineering and Thermal Measurements Professor, Giulio Fanti, Padua, Italy, but it is absolutely convincing, like yours! The Mystery of the Shroud is the title of his book, and the film, The Shroud of Turin, 2015, is here on UA-cam. Thank you for your work!

  • @seekingthetrinity
    @seekingthetrinity 3 місяці тому +201

    In desperation, as an agnostic, I made a prayer, that was answered, which was followed by many ‘coincidences’ that had me reevaluating my skepticism. It caused me to begin reading the Bible again and making my own conclusions about what it says to be as objective as possible but the Shroud of Turin is what had me really believing that evidence actually exists of the resurrected Christ.

    • @Tonyzzz7
      @Tonyzzz7 3 місяці тому

      look up Mary Of Zeitoun Egypt for more powerful proof of God and his holy Angels. Occurred in 1968 and was ongoing for 3 years but was suppressed by the main stream media

    • @panzergarden1232
      @panzergarden1232 3 місяці тому +10

      Same🎉

    • @thatswhatshesaid.literally737
      @thatswhatshesaid.literally737 3 місяці тому +11

      Same here!! The Shroud, and also the chariot wheels of ancient Pharaohs army discovered at the bottom of the _middle_ of the Red Sea, and the balls of pure sulphur (more pure than anywhere else on earth) discovered at the sites that best fit the locations of Sodom and Gomorrah, etc., etc., etc... God doesn't inspire His word to be recorded without the archaeological proof to back it up. It's just taken time for us here on earth to discover it! 🙏☺️

    • @Insightful_Inquiries
      @Insightful_Inquiries 3 місяці тому +6

      The Grace of our Lord is truly something to behold!
      +May the Lord Bless you, and Keep you!
      (I pray this for all in this post who have also been given the grace to see the truth!)
      “Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of thy Mercy”
      +---------+---------+
      🌹 “Pray the Rosary every day, in order to obtain Peace in the world…”
      -Our Lady’s Words at Fatima
      May 13th, 1917 🌹
      +---------+---------+
      -God bless
      🌹Ave Maria🌹
      +Viva Cristo Rey+

    • @janezus9883
      @janezus9883 2 місяці тому

      ​@@thatswhatshesaid.literally737 Please don't mix everything : the shroud has nothing to do with other so called "evidences" for instance how would it be possible that, when everything was burnt to the ground, those highly inflammables sulfur balls didn't burn !?

  • @user-bv7wh4ui5d
    @user-bv7wh4ui5d 3 місяці тому +122

    Notice how the doctor patiently waits for his turn to speak,,,,no interruption…….pure class.

    • @user-bd6eo9wk9j
      @user-bd6eo9wk9j 3 місяці тому +2

      He's just hard of hearing...

    • @johnmichaelson9173
      @johnmichaelson9173 3 місяці тому +1

      You're setting the bar pretty darn low, smh.

    • @katiestover8954
      @katiestover8954 3 місяці тому +4

      I never seen a guest so rudely treated.

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 3 місяці тому

      the shroud shows only oine thing, jesus was dead. if it had an animated movie of jesus standing up and demanding his morning coffee that might be impressive, the good thing about the shroud is you all look silly claiming - what? what does the shroud prove even if it weren't a fake? what?

    • @tgguiquing9579
      @tgguiquing9579 2 місяці тому +3

      Indeed, he is so conversant about d subject n discusses so extensively. Grateful for his sharing

  • @MM22-lc8cb
    @MM22-lc8cb 3 місяці тому +36

    Remarkable revelation. Christ has risen, Christ will come again.

    • @plainsman
      @plainsman 26 днів тому

      The shroud is a medieval fake that was being used in a faith healing scam. An investigation at the time discovered the name of the scammer AND the name of the person who fabricated the fake shroud for him. It has been carbon dated by three top quality dating labs, and NO the samples C14 dated did NOT come from a repaired section because representatives from the Holy See and Vatican scientists familiar with the repaired section supervised to make sure it was avoided.

  • @lampsaltlight
    @lampsaltlight 3 місяці тому +51

    I was a skeptic for many years about the shroud of Turin. For no logical reason whatsoever! I didn’t even try to do my own research. Then last year, few weeks before Easter/ Passover, I finally decided to watch a show about the shroud. BOOM 🤯💥 out of nowhere, I believed. I. Just. Believed. And I still believe. And I will believe for the rest of my life. I love how God works in my life ❤. Praise be to Him alone.

    • @user-wt2rn1ki9n
      @user-wt2rn1ki9n 3 місяці тому +4

      The 2014 update video by Dr. Wayne Phillips convinced me. Amazing stuff

    • @ohzone6464
      @ohzone6464 3 місяці тому +1

      I am still a skeptic!!!

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 3 місяці тому

      what does the shroud prove? that jesus was dead - i could have told you that.
      all you can ever do is show that things have a natural origin, you cannot show that god
      had a hand in making or designing anything, god, if he were real, has spent the last
      2000 years preserving my free will by hiding - do people like meyers, behe and tour think they can over ride god?
      what do they expect? "here is proof of god where's my nobel"? the BEST they can hope
      for is to look stupid.
      god is hidden, he won't let you find him. it's HIS rules sillies. (and he's mainly imaginary).

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 3 місяці тому

      @@user-wt2rn1ki9n convinced you of what? if anyone at all provided evidence god was real they would be world famous and we'd all have to become christians. you religious people just beg to be mocked with your silliness you really do.

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 3 місяці тому

      @@ohzone6464 why? it shows jesus is dead is all, even if it's real it proves - what?

  • @kevinoconnor8749
    @kevinoconnor8749 3 місяці тому +149

    When I had my reversion I went to mass received the Holy Eucharist and knelt down closed my eyes and saw the Shroud of Turin

    • @Winddancer1991
      @Winddancer1991 3 місяці тому

      An idol is anything more important to you than God, anything that absorbs your heart and imagination more than God, and anything that you seek to give you what only God can give

    • @voxangeli9205
      @voxangeli9205 3 місяці тому +25

      ​@@Winddancer1991, the Eucharist is an idol, is that what you mean?
      Jesus is my idol, and the Eucharist is Jesus; so why not idolize the Eucharist?

    • @sliglusamelius8578
      @sliglusamelius8578 3 місяці тому +1

      Very cool. Did you have a prior belief in the shroud as authentic image of Christ?

    • @kevinoconnor8749
      @kevinoconnor8749 3 місяці тому +14

      No but it was undeniable and I was just coming back to the faith since childhood and their was a lot I didn’t understand and in that moment I knew I was home

    • @sliglusamelius8578
      @sliglusamelius8578 3 місяці тому +12

      @@user-hf5wf7lc6x
      "Unless you eat my body and drink my blood, you have no life in you".

  • @sumeshjoseph2471
    @sumeshjoseph2471 2 місяці тому +21

    I was an agnostic for 15 years... An amazing experience in a charismatic renewal meeting and an electrifying light hitting me changed to me to god again

  • @jeffi854
    @jeffi854 3 місяці тому +25

    I’ll never forget the very first time I ever laid eyes upon the shroud of Turin for the very first time. Although I’ve been a born again believer in messiah Yeshua for decades. I knew instantly that what I was looking at was in fact the burial cloth of my messiah Yeshua. What a mighty and awesome God we serve !

    • @russellweber3466
      @russellweber3466 3 місяці тому +1

      There is no such thing in reality as a born again believer and the name of the Son of God and the Blessed Virgin Mary is Jesus Christ, who founded the Catholic faith, Catholics are the original Bible Christians.

    • @jeffi854
      @jeffi854 3 місяці тому +3

      @@russellweber3466 Well thank you for that completely false doctrinal statement that so clearly mentioned in 2-Timothy 4 . I’ll be praying Yeshua / Jesus Christ opens your eyes and softens your heart to receive his Holy Spirit . Gods word also clearly teaches us not to worship idols and images. I’ll be praying for you, God bless !

    • @russellweber3466
      @russellweber3466 3 місяці тому

      @@jeffi854 Were you high posting this gibberish? What I wrote is the Christ's honest truth, and did not write a word about worshipping idols,why did you write that nonsense. I highly suggest a lost soul such as yourself start praying the Rosary, Catholic exorcists have documented that the devil and demons hate hearing prayers in Latin, hate hearing the Blessed Virgin Mary and hate hearing the Rosary being recited, and hate hearing prayers in Latin and Gregrorian chant. By the way, what Christian denomination were you baptized in?

    • @stephenbryant5251
      @stephenbryant5251 3 місяці тому +1

      Amen! 🙏🏻

    • @russellweber3466
      @russellweber3466 3 місяці тому

      @@stephenbryant5251 The poet chaplain of the Confederacy was a Catholic priest in Knoxville, TN.

  • @puffnbudzzz7051
    @puffnbudzzz7051 3 місяці тому +45

    God Bless my Brothers and Sisters in Christ❤️

  • @mikefields1776
    @mikefields1776 3 місяці тому +89

    I was 8 when they attempted to debunk the shroud of Jesus in 1978. I think it was on the show In Search Of hosted by Leonard Nimoy. Even as kids we knew it was real from the first time we saw it.

    • @CARPB147
      @CARPB147 3 місяці тому +14

      You were way smarter at 8 than the nimrods who tried to debunk what has overwhelming evidence in favor of it.

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 3 місяці тому

      you don't have to debunk it, the first point being it shows jesus is dead, we all know that, second since when has god left evidence of his existence? you religists don't even understand your own religion do you - what is THE most important thing in the universe?
      my free will
      god would compromise my free will if there was ANY evidence he existed, the shroud, creationism, your whole religion is based on god leaving NO EVIDENCE he exists - you require faith.
      there is no god, all this is stupid people making up stupid religions in order to bully people.

    • @NonnaTradCat
      @NonnaTradCat 3 місяці тому +7

      Yes, I was 10 at that time & remember being told it was a fake! 😞 I knew that was not correct. I was able to put together (even at my young age) the story about the Nuns repairing what had been burned and thinking "they took the wrong piece of cloth!" Ever since then, I've been so interested to discover more and more info that is revealed about our Lord's Holy Shroud as the years go on. I'm excited to purchase this book.

    • @CARPB147
      @CARPB147 3 місяці тому

      @@NonnaTradCat - At 10 you were already smarter than the pack of disingenuous and well publicized "debunkers" that came out of the woodwork like termites following the 1988 C14 tests.

    • @jackiemack8653
      @jackiemack8653 2 місяці тому +4

      Yup. Saw a paperback in 1978 showing shroud was a negative. I knew it was real.

  • @2011studies
    @2011studies 3 місяці тому +30

    I heard recently that Rob Schneider (American actor, comedian, and screenwriter) who is now a professing Christian wants to do a movie on The Shroud. I hope Dr. Lavoie's work will be included. I may discuss this topic on my Bible Study UA-cam channel called 2011studies.

    • @Davedennis-yl6jn
      @Davedennis-yl6jn Місяць тому

      Close, he went through RCIA and converted to the Church, and is a member of the Church! Praise Jesus

  • @cjbanksful
    @cjbanksful 3 місяці тому +54

    Awesome, he was elevated when he rose, Oh my goodness. Now it even makes more sense. I have such respect for Dr. Lavole. Our Lord keeps showing us more and more. I have been following this since 1983 and I'm seventy-five. This is so exciting. Thank you, gentlemen, for having the doctor on, it has been such a blessing.

    • @THE.GYPSY.PRINCE
      @THE.GYPSY.PRINCE 2 місяці тому

      you are getting brainwashed. it is a proven hoax. get a grip.

  • @irishtickles
    @irishtickles 3 місяці тому +67

    Dr. Lavoie, I bought your book on Amazon. It’s awesome! (I’m an MD too.)

    • @ashlings390
      @ashlings390 3 місяці тому +2

      Hi, I'm curious, are you an MD in Ireland?

  • @andrewrigo9814
    @andrewrigo9814 3 місяці тому +85

    Incredible! When Dr. Lavoie revealed that the image on the shroud is that of an upright man, it gave me shivers of awe! But of course it is an image of the risen Christ! Hallelujah!

    • @beorbeorian150
      @beorbeorian150 3 місяці тому

      Was Christ a deformed human that looked like a severely handicapped man? Because the proportions on the shroud show that. Why? Because it’s the same proportions as statues at the time it was faked, and admitted to be faked.

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 3 місяці тому +1

      a dead man. other than that, what does the shroud prove even if it were genuine?

    • @4TIMESAYEAR
      @4TIMESAYEAR 3 місяці тому +1

      Read your Bible. Jesus was wrapped in strips and a separate head cloth. God's Word does not support the shroud.

    • @fredgarv79
      @fredgarv79 3 місяці тому

      Just looked it up and only John says "strips of cloth, the other 3 gospels say "a piece of linen cloth" as in one piece. The separate head cloth is true, but it has not been found and what does that matter? @@4TIMESAYEAR

    • @michalfric5477
      @michalfric5477 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@4TIMESAYEARHi, there is another head shroud I think it is in Valencia and it matches the Shroud of Turin, God bless !

  • @christophercoughlin9493
    @christophercoughlin9493 3 місяці тому +28

    The shroud is a photograph made with light so intense it could light up a stadium (and then some) but so cool that it didn't even burn the fabric it was imprinted on, which was not a photo-receptive surface. It's a cool thermo-nuclear reaction. And that's just for starters.

    • @commentsedited
      @commentsedited 2 місяці тому

      Oh boy. It is the oil from the skin making the image. Jeezus h christ on a cracker

    • @theodorematuga7978
      @theodorematuga7978 2 місяці тому +2

      So true! It is a marvel to think about.

    • @jackiemack8653
      @jackiemack8653 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@theodorematuga7978God is a marvel.

    • @martylucas8557
      @martylucas8557 2 місяці тому +2

      Christopher, they have recently determined that the Shroud was created by energy, all the energy known to modern man was used to create the imprint of Jesus on the Shroud, as Jesus awoke from death.

    • @christophercoughlin9493
      @christophercoughlin9493 2 місяці тому +2

      @@martylucas8557 I know!

  • @marciamatteini7604
    @marciamatteini7604 3 місяці тому +12

    All I can say is I totally believe this is the image of Christ. Thank you , and God bless you✝️

    • @theodorematuga7978
      @theodorematuga7978 2 місяці тому +2

      I totally believe this is the image of OUR LORD. The evidence is indisputible!

  • @anthonypereira3272
    @anthonypereira3272 3 місяці тому +15

    I have read Dr Lavoie.The analysis that the formation of image was not in lying position,really clinches the issue of The Resurection

  • @michelledowen7292
    @michelledowen7292 3 місяці тому +33

    I bought the book. This has to be one of the Best episodes on this show.

    • @EB-sh2jr
      @EB-sh2jr Місяць тому

      You wasted your money to another money grubbing charlotten.

  • @paddyboy57
    @paddyboy57 3 місяці тому +48

    This was really a show of substance. You need more like this. What about how Eucharistic Miracles tie into the actual crucifixion of Christ and how some of the information we gather from the Eucharistic Miracles can also tie into the Shroud. They actually proove each other through blood type and more.

  • @willweeverknow696
    @willweeverknow696 3 місяці тому +24

    just ordered the ebook on Amazon. Can't wait to read it. I have a replica of the shroud at home. It looks really great and initiates interesting conversations with visitors (90+% are atheists). They have either never heard of it or are not aware of its significance. They don't believe it when you tell them about it but are surprised, even shocked when they see it. Some start thinking, which I feel is a success.

  • @margaretbirchem7408
    @margaretbirchem7408 3 місяці тому +14

    This is the most inspiring and fascinating evidence of our faith and the knowledge of truth in Jesus and our God. Loved every moment of this episode.

  • @hextoken
    @hextoken 3 місяці тому +9

    Jesus is Risen! He alone is worthy of prayer and praise!

  • @rondamcmaster1027
    @rondamcmaster1027 3 місяці тому +44

    Thank you so much rRyan, Ryan and Father Richard. between you and hollow. You have changed my whole Catholic life and I just love you all and bless you and thank you thank you thank you!!! I'm a Gold Star mother and I've been floundering for so many years and I feel like I am put my feet back on the rock.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️😘

  • @auntyfluffy
    @auntyfluffy 3 місяці тому +35

    Greetings and Happy New Year to all my friends here! God Bless all who bring us The Catholic Talk Show, I am ever grateful you've all helped me Home :) Eastern King County WA, USA

  • @alyssedahlgren5285
    @alyssedahlgren5285 3 місяці тому +27

    I really love this episode!! The evidence is overwhelming!!

  • @Blessed1111_
    @Blessed1111_ 3 місяці тому +16

    May God bless you all from Canada 🇨🇦

    • @anthonylaveque5612
      @anthonylaveque5612 3 місяці тому +1

      God bless you from just north of Calgary

    • @Blessed1111_
      @Blessed1111_ 3 місяці тому

      @@anthonylaveque5612 🙋‍♀️Hi Anthony I live in Calgary. 🙏🏻

    • @anthonylaveque5612
      @anthonylaveque5612 3 місяці тому +1

      That’s awesome I’m actually going to mass in Calgary tonight to celebrate the baptism of our lord

    • @Blessed1111_
      @Blessed1111_ 3 місяці тому +1

      @@anthonylaveque5612 Which church are you heading to?

    • @anthonylaveque5612
      @anthonylaveque5612 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Blessed1111_ St. Luke’s parish at 7

  • @geraldinederycke6485
    @geraldinederycke6485 3 місяці тому +12

    I was born in N. Ireland during 1940. When I was about 5-6 years old I can remember my mother telling me that Jesus was the “only” perfect 6ft tall man ever. Anything to this piece of Information? She was a wonderful believer in the Shroud of Turin and in all things Catholic. We had

    • @bryanleary4078
      @bryanleary4078 3 місяці тому +4

      The shrowd has a 5'10 man. Tall for the day.

    • @CARPB147
      @CARPB147 3 місяці тому

      @@bryanleary4078Yes, this measurement is consistent with the *only* evidence ever to be available on his height: His burial shroud.

    • @katiestover8954
      @katiestover8954 3 місяці тому +1

      Opinions vary from 5’7” to 6’2”.

  • @tanetalz
    @tanetalz 3 місяці тому +26

    At the end of the day, for those who don't believe, no evidence (other than the 1978 carbon dating data) is possible. For those who do believe, no evidence is necessary. Blessed be those who do not 'see' and yet believe.

    • @brucedon1951
      @brucedon1951 3 місяці тому +3

      Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God.

  • @davidallengreen5153
    @davidallengreen5153 3 місяці тому +23

    ❤ thank you I've always believed it was real ! Thank you to the Doctor and the Catholic talk show all holy men Ryan,Ryan and especially Father Rich!! Love 💘 you guys,lori

  • @user-pg3vo1li6n
    @user-pg3vo1li6n 3 місяці тому +14

    Hi Fr. Richard, Ryan and Ryan! I love your videos and discussions! I am a 57 year old Irish lady and a recovering alcoholic! When I was in the depths of my active addiction I completely turned my back on the Catholic Church but now that I have been several years sober I reached out to a local Catholic Priest a couple of months ago to guide me through my reinitiation back to the Catholic Church and my journey is going very well thank God! So I was just wondering if you guys could please make a video on this theme! I would be extremely grateful if you could! God bless you all and keep up your good work!🙏🏻❤️✝️🤗🕊! Px

    • @Hymnstreams
      @Hymnstreams 3 місяці тому +1

      Welcome back to the Catholic church. Highly suggest to follow Fr Mike Bible in a year and catechism in a year. It personally has helped me a lot.

    • @theodorematuga7978
      @theodorematuga7978 2 місяці тому

      WE love you!! welcome home.

    • @user-pg3vo1li6n
      @user-pg3vo1li6n 2 місяці тому

      @@theodorematuga7978 Thank you so much Theodore, you’re very kind! And it’s good to be home where my life has meaning again! God bless you and keep you!🙏🏻🥰🤗😇🕊! Px

  • @jeffreysharp8526
    @jeffreysharp8526 3 місяці тому +16

    Thank you all for the outstanding show on the Shroud of Turin and Dr. Lavoie's book. Generally (as a former Lutheran), I ignored most relics and dismissed their claims. However, after listening to Fr. Schweitzer, I began to look more closely at the Shroud which, most perfectly matches the crucifixion. This new book will be a welcome source. Thanks again for your efforts. Pax.

  • @Grateful_Grannie
    @Grateful_Grannie 2 місяці тому +7

    Never had any doubt about the shroud’s authenticity.

    • @beverlyhurd8556
      @beverlyhurd8556 2 місяці тому +3

      Join the club! No one that has at least average intelligence is going to call the Shroud of Turin a fake. Impossible.

    • @user-xp3po8wu7u
      @user-xp3po8wu7u 2 місяці тому

      I agree, it's easier to believe it is authentic than the believe it's 13th or 14th century hoax. They certainly didn't have the technology to fake it. It was only realized in the late 1800s what a photo negative even looked like. It would be a miracle if they actually faked it in that time period. I think it's authentic.

  • @vhc1182
    @vhc1182 3 місяці тому +22

    This was absolutely the most astonishing show of yours..
    Thank you for sharing.
    I was Blessed by watching...
    I appreciate you Guys!✝️

  • @bethmedina9200
    @bethmedina9200 3 місяці тому +9

    Saint Johns, Florida here. Great to “see” all of you!

  • @mistyviolet3825
    @mistyviolet3825 3 місяці тому +9

    O LORD YESHUA PLEASE 🙏🏻 COME SOON…… we need you now here on Earth AMEN 🙏🏻 ❤😢💔💔💔💔

  • @wow344wow
    @wow344wow 3 місяці тому +7

    Back in 1966 I first saw the shroud. A man of honor, authority and love.

  • @MC-qb1jg
    @MC-qb1jg 3 місяці тому +47

    I may fall, but God, Jesus, and our Mother are always there to catch me. That Jesus was brutalized, murdered to save man, tells us how much he loves us. Repent and believe in the gospel. Do not let the world of evil confuse you. Lean into God and Jesus, pray for Mary to intercede for you.

    • @billysanford2963
      @billysanford2963 3 місяці тому

      Come to reality! JESUS' mother's body is in the grave!

    • @markrymanowski719
      @markrymanowski719 3 місяці тому

      Mary doesn't intecede for anybody.
      How can you utter such blasphemy???

    • @Squarepeg001
      @Squarepeg001 3 місяці тому

      ​@markrymanowski719 how is it blasphemy to ask Mary (or indeed, any saint) to pray for us?

    • @billysanford2963
      @billysanford2963 3 місяці тому

      A lot on utube showing what catholics believe and it is not biblical. MC-qb1jg
      11 days ago (edited)
      I may fall, but God, Jesus, and our Mother are always there to catch me. That Jesus was brutalized, murdered to save man, tells us how much he loves us. Repent and believe in the gospel. Do not let the world of evil confuse you. Lean into God and Jesus, pray for Mary to intercede for you

    • @markrymanowski719
      @markrymanowski719 3 місяці тому

      @@Squarepeg001
      Christ is the mediator.
      'No one comes before the Father lest it be by me'.
      Jesus. Prince of peace.

  • @mhmt1453
    @mhmt1453 3 місяці тому +3

    I’m old enough to remember the anticipation about that study in the 1980s. I also remember saying to people then, “it’s about faith. I bet they date it to the 13th century, but you have to believe the image is real through faith.” Any test can be wrong, but it’s all about having doubts. One has to overcome one’s doubts through faith.
    And I knew nothing about the details; not the wound patterns, nor the French weave, or the posture, etc. I only knew that the image was rendered in 3D, and that the image couldn’t be recreated. I had faith.

  • @jeanlanz2344
    @jeanlanz2344 3 місяці тому +7

    Thank you, Doctor Savoy, for sharing your deep spiritual and scientific observations and insights. God bless you.

  • @bethmedina9200
    @bethmedina9200 3 місяці тому +14

    Can’t wait! This is going to be a fantastic topic!

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 3 місяці тому

      why? even it it were genuine all it shows is what we already know - jesus is dead.

  • @jakebernal492
    @jakebernal492 3 місяці тому +22

    Joseph of Arimathea provided the burial shroud which only a rich man would have

    • @ironymatt
      @ironymatt 3 місяці тому +9

      Here is a prayer that mentions Joseph of Arimathea I heard recently:
      Lord God, who left us the signs of your passion on the holy shroud,
      In which your most holy body was wrapped when you were lowered from the cross by Joseph,
      Grant us, most loving Lord, that by your holy death and burial, and by the sufferings of your holy mother Mary, Our Lady,
      That the souls in purgatory may be brought to the glory of the resurrection,
      Where you live and reign with God the Father, in the unity of the Holy Spirit, One God, forever and ever,
      Amen

    • @wesurvivedcastledunboy9571
      @wesurvivedcastledunboy9571 3 місяці тому +4

      Yes. He was a rich shipping trader of tin.

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 3 місяці тому

      @@ironymatt all you can ever do is show that things have a natural origin, you cannot show that god
      had a hand in making or designing anything, god, if he were real, has spent the last
      2000 years preserving my free will by hiding - do people like meyers, behe and tour think they can over ride god?
      what do they expect? "here is proof of god where's my nobel"? the BEST they can hope
      for is to look stupid.
      god is hidden, he won't let you find him. it's HIS rules sillies. (and he's mainly imaginary).

  • @evelynhornyak222
    @evelynhornyak222 3 місяці тому +12

    Thank you for answering my questions. Powerful explanation. Thank you Jesus

  • @YvonneMarieToms
    @YvonneMarieToms 3 місяці тому +14

    Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us.

  • @jal2550
    @jal2550 3 місяці тому +6

    Praise Jesus!!!

  • @OldStreetDoc
    @OldStreetDoc 2 місяці тому +3

    For whatever myriad of reasons, we as individuals often wrestle with our faith. For me, it was only when I finally relented and asked God to reveal Himself to me, and simply opened my eyes in order to actually ‘see’ finally, that His presence became so clear to me that I can only describe it as obvious. ‘Your mileage may vary’, as they say. However the blinders that we can put on ourselves in our daily lives can prevent us from seeing all manner of things.

    • @hellwithit
      @hellwithit 2 місяці тому

      And yet you pretend to know what people are going to say? You a doc of what? Bull crap?

    • @BrettArcher-dn3dh
      @BrettArcher-dn3dh 2 місяці тому

      He's full of himself also. Probably a lop. Just spelled it wrong.

  • @jjoanmmas
    @jjoanmmas 3 місяці тому +6

    The holy shroud of Turin and the shroud of Oviedo (Spain) "wrappered the body of the same person". There are "points that show the compatibility between the two canvases" in the area of the forehead, where there are traces of blood, as well as on the back of the nose, right cheekbone or chin, which "present different bruises."

  • @JayRedding12_12
    @JayRedding12_12 3 місяці тому +6

    I remember hearing about this on Keith Nester's Catholic Feedback. This is really incredible. Deo gracias 🙏

  • @RossMccully
    @RossMccully 3 місяці тому +4

    I was scrolling youtube when a documentary about mary madeline came up with a painting of her face in the thumbnail. The subtitles came up and they said you are truly blessed. I didnt really realise and scrolled on for a second. When i went back to click on the video the message was gone and there was no subtitles near the beginning that said that. Its one of the wierdest things that has happened to me because it was quite prominent and i tried to find an explanation. I kind of believe god is in the algorithm these days

    • @lauriekurad
      @lauriekurad 3 місяці тому +1

      I have experienced similar happenings...so, I have no problem believing that you saw what you did.

  • @artqueen691
    @artqueen691 3 місяці тому +4

    Can't wait to read Dr, Lavoie's book! Great show. Thank you guys!

  • @sr.christinam.neumann1923
    @sr.christinam.neumann1923 3 місяці тому +4

    Thank you for sharing on this topic again! It's so interesting and inspiring!

  • @michelleklein3056
    @michelleklein3056 3 місяці тому +8

    Wow - upright!

  • @timeflies54fast48
    @timeflies54fast48 3 місяці тому +8

    Ordered the book just now!! So anxious to read it!! Thank you!

  • @joanhyde1745
    @joanhyde1745 3 місяці тому +3

    Thank you, Dr. LaVoie.

  • @beachbum6781
    @beachbum6781 2 місяці тому +2

    Professor Giulio Fanti of Padua, Italy, revealed so many answers in his remarkable work on the Shroud, in his book, The Mystery of the Shroud. Very compelling.

    • @theodorematuga7978
      @theodorematuga7978 2 місяці тому

      Agree. The more scientists learn about the Shroud the more compelling the evidence.
      A 3D image of a crowned and crucified man with wounds exactly matching those described in Scripture and recorded on a linen burial cloth? When was the last time any image was recorded on linen??? Answer: NEVER
      Any record of anyone else being crucified wearing a cap of thorns?? Answer: NEVER

  • @vebnew
    @vebnew 3 місяці тому +12

    I own full-size museum quality reproductions of the Lance of Longinus, crucifixion nails, crown of thorns, Roman flagrums, and actual set of tefillin, a full size copy of both the Shroud of Turin and the Sudarium. All items are stored in a silver case. I cannot handle any of them without weeping......

    • @theodorematuga7978
      @theodorematuga7978 2 місяці тому

      You are a wounderful human being

    • @vebnew
      @vebnew 2 місяці тому

      @@theodorematuga7978 if so; only because of God and His sacrifice of His precious Son, Jesus. Thank you God for all your blessings I ask this in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen

  • @nanidogmomstevens6386
    @nanidogmomstevens6386 3 місяці тому +3

    ☦️ Be blest. Thank you.

  • @harvestingnow1571
    @harvestingnow1571 3 місяці тому +6

    This is Gr8!!! Thanks guys and Father!! 😄🙋🏻‍♀️🙏

  • @Dean-qt5ow
    @Dean-qt5ow 2 місяці тому +4

    I love this observation that he was " lifted up" As it says in the book of John.

  • @zaiduljahar2736
    @zaiduljahar2736 3 місяці тому +3

    Halleluia!!! Finally it make sense ! The image of the risen Christ !!! Of course, the image of a living God !!! Glory be to God alone. And be blessed all . From the Island of Borneo.

    • @theodorematuga7978
      @theodorematuga7978 2 місяці тому

      America gives our love to you and yours to the Island of Borneo.

  • @yes2day100
    @yes2day100 3 місяці тому +8

    Thanks. Just ordered the book. Look forward to reading it.

  • @susantaylor7195
    @susantaylor7195 3 місяці тому +4

    I really enjoyed this and learned more information!!! Just ordered the book. Thank you!

  • @carolyntomaselli3333
    @carolyntomaselli3333 3 місяці тому +4

    Wow! Absolutely amazing!

  • @Alwaysherethere
    @Alwaysherethere 3 місяці тому +5

    This is one place you'll hear the truth!❤❤❤

  • @abil4127
    @abil4127 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for posting y’all ❤️

  • @Elizabeth-iw3wd
    @Elizabeth-iw3wd 3 місяці тому +6

    🙋‍♀️ From SCOTLAND

  • @antonioflores7917
    @antonioflores7917 3 місяці тому +6

    This was a very exciting vid 🙏. Thank you so much

  • @fredgarv79
    @fredgarv79 3 місяці тому +2

    one of the best things he said was "you have to seek, to go out and look" I would add to that you have to be willing to accept, open your heart and it will come to you. Most people myself included didn't really look into it so I was a skeptic but once you really look into it even without preconceived Ideas it just makes sense from a logical point of view

  • @TheMoreYouSew
    @TheMoreYouSew 2 місяці тому +1

    I always love episodes on the Shroud! Would love more!

  • @NUNUNUKING
    @NUNUNUKING 3 місяці тому +5

    Every year innumerable pilgrims visit the Church of the Volto Santo (Holy Face) in Manoppello, to admire that image which, according to tradition, but also to long and thorough research, may have been the impression of Christ's face on a shroud.

  • @carolyngreene2967
    @carolyngreene2967 3 місяці тому +4

    Greetings. I loved this episode. It occurred to me that you might find the book John's Use of Ezekiel by Brian Neil Peterson insightful. Especially if we consider the insights Ezekiel 37 brings to the concept of resurrection.

  • @lukasandisaaktime9147
    @lukasandisaaktime9147 3 місяці тому +3

    Praise Be to God!!!

  • @multilevelenglish
    @multilevelenglish Місяць тому +1

    As a teenager intrigued with the Shroud... I reached the conclusion that the image had to have happened while levitated due to the similar images on front and back. Being levitated upright supports the other logistics. Brilliant!

  • @josh39684
    @josh39684 3 місяці тому +47

    The shroud of Turin lead me to catholicism. Still not Catholic though because I am living with my mom and dad who are anti Catholic

    • @dianeleif3491
      @dianeleif3491 3 місяці тому +27

      Pray for your parents, that their hearts are softened and opened

    • @auntyfluffy
      @auntyfluffy 3 місяці тому +17

      Ask our Beloved Mother to put in a word with her Son, Our Lord to gently guide them, praying for you, brother.

    • @josh39684
      @josh39684 3 місяці тому +18

      ​@@auntyfluffythanks. Been praying the Rosary everyday for them

    • @josh39684
      @josh39684 3 місяці тому

      ​@@dianeleif3491praying the Rosary everyday for them

    • @kevinoconnor8749
      @kevinoconnor8749 3 місяці тому +11

      God bless you and I’ll pray for you and your mother and father

  • @BarbaraAKing-bq6kw
    @BarbaraAKing-bq6kw 3 місяці тому +5

    Wow, thank you!! Amen. I always knew it was Jesus.

  • @joban7851
    @joban7851 3 місяці тому +2

    GOD BLESS YOU EACH OTHER 🙏🏼 MORE SUCCESS TO YOUR CHANNEL 🙏🏼

  • @FriendOfChrist
    @FriendOfChrist 3 місяці тому +5

    Several years ago, Dame Isabel Piczek talked about the fact that the man in the cloth was not lying on something when the image was formed because the back was not flattened. He had to have been lifted up somehow. She also spoke about the hair. I think that was in the 2007 documentary, "The Fabric of Time," but it may have been in one of the interviews she did with Russ Breault. Sorry I can't be more specific, but I do believe it was in the documentary.

  • @lesmen4
    @lesmen4 3 місяці тому +5

    The face symetry of shroud and devine mercy picture matches
    .

  • @Glory-to-God.
    @Glory-to-God. 3 місяці тому +3

    Praise be Jesus and Mary

  • @URmysunshine-jm7bo
    @URmysunshine-jm7bo 3 місяці тому +1

    Interesting. Thank you for sharing.

  • @ktm6454
    @ktm6454 3 місяці тому +3

    This was a really good one.!!

  • @knightmaremedia7795
    @knightmaremedia7795 2 місяці тому +3

    Imo this is the single most important artifact of the entire human race.

  • @ccloutier1586
    @ccloutier1586 3 місяці тому +6

    I had read somewhere where someone had explained that the way the cloth was folded was the same way someone would fold their cloth/ napkin, at the table and that specific fold meant that they would be returning to the table and not to clear their spot off. Had anyone else ever hear about this practice?

    • @jeffreyerwin3665
      @jeffreyerwin3665 3 місяці тому +1

      I have seen that idea. It assumes that Jesus folded that cloth. I do not buy it.

    • @marionchase-kleeves8311
      @marionchase-kleeves8311 3 місяці тому

      In the 1978 study and other subsequent studies the sudarium of Oviedo was shown to have been folded multiple tines, pierced with a long pin from some sort of fastener and put on Christ's Forehead. The stain on the cloth is the same as the stain on the shroud, like a 3.
      The cloth was used to collect body fluids from Jesus face that are considered precious to Jewish believers

    • @lauriekurad
      @lauriekurad 3 місяці тому +2

      Yes, I have. And I believe Jesus did it as a sign to those who knew the practice, and that it was mentioned in Gospels because back then, people would know the significance.

    • @ccloutier1586
      @ccloutier1586 3 місяці тому +2

      @@lauriekurad that was also my understanding.

    • @ccloutier1586
      @ccloutier1586 2 місяці тому +2

      @lauriekurad I also understand that every word in the gospel is carefully chosen and has meaning behind it.

  • @curiouscharli5744
    @curiouscharli5744 3 місяці тому +6

    Hello from Cape Town South Africa

  • @user55lovesfr95
    @user55lovesfr95 3 місяці тому +13

    Hello. Indonesia here.

    • @theodorematuga7978
      @theodorematuga7978 2 місяці тому

      Hello Indonesia. How are Christians faring in Indonesia?

  • @mary-diii
    @mary-diii 3 місяці тому +7

    Hello from kaduna Nigeria

  • @ziesha.marie11
    @ziesha.marie11 3 місяці тому +2

    Happy new year and this is fascinating!

  • @alexandercochrane9410
    @alexandercochrane9410 24 дні тому

    Great show fellas. God Bless the good doctor!

  • @kylesiegrist3033
    @kylesiegrist3033 3 місяці тому +3

    Let’s do this!

  • @dianekamer8341
    @dianekamer8341 3 місяці тому +21

    The late Isabel Piczek pointed out that even the most skilled representational artists *today* cannot replicate the perfect anatomical accuracy of the Shroud image.
    And anyone who has the slightest familiarity with High and Late Medieval art knows how impossible it would be for *any* 13th- or 14th-century artist to create that image. I mean, goodness, look at the works of Cimabue and Giotto. They were the supreme Western artists of their day, but they weren't painting hyper-realistically. Not by a long shot. None of the pioneers of Western naturalism came close to achieving -- or even pursuing -- anatomically accurate realism.
    Eastern artists were even less focused on realism: High Byzantine iconography is extremely stylized and abstract.
    Those who claim that the Shroud image is a medieval forgery need to take Art History 101!

    • @sliglusamelius8578
      @sliglusamelius8578 3 місяці тому +6

      There's no paint. The image is a radiation effect that can't be reproduced.

    • @kbeetles
      @kbeetles 3 місяці тому +7

      There is no pigment on it. The image comes from the discolouration of the fibres of the textile. There is nothing ON it.

    • @dianekamer8341
      @dianekamer8341 3 місяці тому +5

      @@sliglusamelius8578 I know! I wasn't contradicting that. I am a firm believer in the Shroud's authenticity.

    • @dianekamer8341
      @dianekamer8341 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@kbeetles Nowhere have I contradicted this. I'm kind of confused by the response to my comment. I am simply offering additional evidence verifying that the Shroud image cannot possibly be a medieval forgery.
      The late Isabel Piczek, a physicist and a gifted representational artist, was a prominent advocate of the Shroud's authenticity.

    • @sliglusamelius8578
      @sliglusamelius8578 3 місяці тому +4

      @@dianekamer8341
      Yeah I thought so, I was just making sure that readers understood since you mentioned paint techniques. It's all good, God bless.

  • @johnbrion4565
    @johnbrion4565 Місяць тому

    This is amazing. I have this guys book and just started reading and it’s amazing

  • @michaeldokupdrpng4723
    @michaeldokupdrpng4723 3 місяці тому +2

    Three dimensionsal negative of Christ crucified... awesome production in history...2000yrs old AND still cannot be easily reproduced given our latest technology. .. ❤❤❤❤ MD

  • @KPP365
    @KPP365 3 місяці тому +9

    Hello from Liverpool, England,

  • @yolandamcmillan7472
    @yolandamcmillan7472 3 місяці тому +5

    Let's get this party started!

  • @ofeliafischman4638
    @ofeliafischman4638 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you so much. Great story.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @paccellipereira6558
    @paccellipereira6558 Місяць тому +2

    Our Jesus has risen.... He is coming again. Do we really need proof of the genuineness of the Shroud. Just believe in Jesus and keep the faith. He is alive!

    • @fedup745
      @fedup745 Місяць тому +1

      No, but since He left us His image, WE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO IT. That argument is often repeated and old.

  • @grahamproudley2794
    @grahamproudley2794 3 місяці тому +3

    That was a very insightful talk …i have always believed that the should shows the true image of Christ and its great that with technology more evidence comes to light
    Im quite intrigued as to the image of Christ being made when he was standing up as the garden tomb he was in is very low in height rising from the ground would be impossible in that small area
    Not that i know anything really but i believe God radiated him with energy which brought him back to life he stood up folded the cloths and left the tomb
    then rose up to his father
    the stone was rolled back for him to leave .

  • @ActuarialNinja
    @ActuarialNinja 3 місяці тому +9

    If anyone here has a position within wikipedia, could they please look into the article on the Shroud? I tried making changes to portions of the article that denounce it as a medieval artifact, but was blocked from doing so. The article states incorrectly that all challenges to the carbon dating (including the repair hypothesis) have been refuted. It would be great if someone with more standing on wikipedia than myself can try, because I got nowhere and unfortunately folks are being misled by that article.

    • @ironymatt
      @ironymatt 3 місяці тому +3

      This is unfortunate, but unsurprising. The powers that be within the tech conglomerates are generally pretty good for relatively non-controversial topics, but they reveal their biases pretty quickly when it comes to Christ.

    • @jeffreyerwin3665
      @jeffreyerwin3665 3 місяці тому +4

      I also have complained about the scientifically inaccurate WIKI article on the Shroud, but the rep just says to change it through the "talk" section. I have tried, but it doesnt' work Whoever is editing this article has a bias. I informed WIKI that I will no longer send in monetary contributions until the article is fixed.

    • @CARPB147
      @CARPB147 3 місяці тому

      The 1988 C14 test was a FRAUD at worst, and demonstrably shoddy science at best. Period.

    • @stephenbryant5251
      @stephenbryant5251 3 місяці тому

      Wikipedia is a fake news website.

    • @themaskedman221
      @themaskedman221 3 місяці тому

      @@jeffreyerwin3665 The article isn't "scientifically inaccurate" -you just don't like what the reliable sources say.

  • @Perktube1
    @Perktube1 3 місяці тому +2

    This new information is astounding. 😊

    • @jackiemack8653
      @jackiemack8653 2 місяці тому

      Unfortunately they do not mention the lettering found on the shroud. Research Vatican researcher Barbara Frale. Writing on shroud reads Jesus the Nazarene. Also has date of his crucifixion.

  • @kfresne3011
    @kfresne3011 3 місяці тому +1

    The face covering in Oviedo Spain is the same linen as the shroud.