100% it’s Nate people get so blinded by NV and nostalgia they endlessly glaze courier. Guy was a decorated veteran, killed a cybernetic augmented serial assassin and his robots.
@@EatFuckingTimothy nate being the actual protagonist in the lore makes the most sense tell me how would a civilian be able to operate a suit of power armor at the start of the game like nora???
Awesome comparison this is how it would actually go Lore wise. people honestly prefer Courier just because of how good Fallout new Vegas is which i don't blame them but Lore wise Nate would destroy Lone wanderer and Courier Dude is literally a pre war veteran with a crap ton of experience Fallout Tv show shows this with cooper Howard with how easily he destroyed a Bos soldier with power armor in less than a second
Cooper Howard was familiar with the flaw of T-45 power armor (the basis for the T-60 power armor), which he used for his own benefit with some armor piercing rounds. Other than that, his gun skills and him being a ghoul doesn't make him special in comparison to Sole Survivor (Let alone other parties involved). Hell, would be fair to compare him to Raul. plus, let's not forget that a tribal from Arroyo village - the place founded by a vault dweller who had no fucking trraining at all prior to leaving vault 13 - faced a behemoth of a super mutant with a bigass gun, who wore one of the most advanced variations of the power armor that ever existed in Fallout universe and defeated it. So who is to say a Courier with a broken combo of GRX implants/turbo/all of it + melee build + broken combat techiqes that can knock even a legendary deathclaw on it's ass or a Lone Wanderer with his broken crits can't be a competition?
@@WackRusDud I guess but one thing is for certain the Sole survivor definitely has more experience and combat IQ compared to the Courier and Lone wanderer he has that big advantage over them guy is literally a 200+ year old War veteran who fought in crazy times. shit the first thing you do when you get out is literally kill a Deathclaw in Concord that's honestly to show how Dangerous Nate is killing a deathclaw with a rusty power Armor I only include the Courier and lone wanderer because I Think Nate the Courier and Wanderer are the main trio of the series the other protagonist's are way to outdated in terribly aged games that's why I dont include them but of course the Courier and wanderer can definitely put up a great fight they aren't pushovers makes me wonder how the hell none of them have crossed paths with one another they're essentially all still alive and still roaming
@@AALion2004 to be fair, deathclaws are also weird (difficulty wise). In fallout 3 - they are not the worst thing you can face even on the hardest difficulty. New Vegas deathclaws? Even on "Very Easy" you do not want to stumble upon ONE with your pants down. Fallout 4 deathclaws are a bit of a 50/50 - bullet sponges, but they just love to run sideways all the damn time
Courier 6 Wins imo Intelligence = Outsmarted think tank , everyone in the old world blues , including his own brain , tricked Elijah in his own game Combat = Can be equal , but i go with courier because of which special training from each faction , examples : Ranger takedown , Legion Assault , Scribe Counter Speed + Agility = Capable of moving at a fraction of the speed of soundwaves fired from the Sonic Emitter, and can dodge them at relatively close range Not being to sprint because of game mechanics is just kinda stupid Weaponry : SS weapons are toys compared to the courier , the courier has : All american , Elijah laser rifle , Sprtel-Wood 9700 , C-Finder , Anti-Material , etc Battle IQ : Defeated enemies way tougher than him , SS was just a soldier , and in every faction ending the idea of how the assault goes is not made by him , and he was only a soldier , not a general or smth , meanwhile courier can change the tactics in a way more effective way during the hoover dam assault +Still a peak edit , valid take
IQ: debatable. SS outsmarted a lot of scientists from Institute and became the leader. Knows nano future technologies. Chip programming. Immortality in terms of science. Can create dangerous robots from scrap. Found a way to use Deathclaws as his personal pets. Fixed Dima's memory. Adopted to Wasteland super fast, while Courier sucked Benny's big stolen platinum cheap, while being on wasteland much longer than SS. Battle IQ: Wasteland battle IQ doesn't mean shit against military war experience. Look at Ghoul from Fallout show, who clowned well equipped and trained BoS members with power armours and NCR. Legion assault tactics? Bruh💀. It's a banch of savages. Same goes to NCR, who are not well equipped,trained and strong. Even with all combined training, courier couldn't do shit against battle IQ of SS. Battle of the dam wasn't made by Courier, guys like Yes Man/House literally made an entire battle strategy plan. Both combat and battle iq goes to SS.
Ss:I would like to roll to intimidate. For explanation the intimidation perk has the ability to prevent any lower level human from attacking you. Last I checked courier has a level cap of 50 with lonesome road, SS doesn’t, so any higher level and yeah. (This just popped into my head and I’ve never seen this be said before)
@@sectorred_2389 SS was a mere soldier in the war , nothing more , you might have a point about combat , but still , in nv courier can still do more than just throwing punches in the air , we haven't seen SS do anything at all
@Crawleraep in terms of combat skill strength and speed I don't think so. Taking overall haxes etc into account then maybe The Courier and The Chosen one could win but even still there is alot to be said about LW based on his usage of the Zetan Arsenal.
@@Kexetey Durability as a quick example is being resistance to damage, if you get shot and it passes through you, or causes you to nearly die then you don’t have good Durability. The courier also needed to be revived to survive a bullet to the head. The sole survivor has much better and more perks for damage resistance to nearly all types of damage besides poison. Sole survivor definitely takes durability.
y’all clearly have your things mixed up, if the courier got up from those headshots and pushed on and walked to the clinic, that would be mostly endurance, but the courier didn’t even get up after he was shot, he was unconscious, he tanked 2x GSWs, being buried alive, then was alive with minimal medical assistance
people in real life survive headshots, its uncommon but with small caliber and fast treartment like courier 6 quite possible. SS has power armour that dwarfs any armour from vegas, he takes durability
@@Kexetey and courier 6 does? I recently saw on the news that an 8 year old was shot in the head in a water park shooting, and he survived. So that isn't a good feat, and other than that he has no real feats so yeah
@@Kexetey the problem is the wobbly text makes the words and letters sometimes blend together making it hard to understand what the word is supposed to be
@@georgevirtus I get he has military experience but that won’t translate much the courier has spent his entire life in the wasteland the sole survivor doesn’t have the wasteland experience
@@bigouncebounce well... imagine if nate is a synth... if he knows that, in base, tecnically, he physically destroys in base, and counting the automatron, if he modifies himself... this would be like a rebbeca vs adam smasher 💀 (and that for all the protagonists of the fallouts except for my man who has a spaceship, just for that's directly unassailable) and let's say that's not the case, let's say that Nate is a human... well, one of the perks is that when he stays still he is very, VERY resistant to all types of damage, including the best armor (far harbor and legendary pieces) and a maximum level ballistic underwear Curier would barely do minimal damage even if he attacks him with full power, since if we make Nate in the dlc make the right decisions (that is, since he is the general of the minutmen, in the dlc make the most peaceful option in each of these) far harbor would be safe, he would probably have killed the nuka-cola word, he would have gotten rid of the enclave, take care of the mechanist (which would give him access to create robots everywhere that would be dangerous) and the same for the brotherhood, counting special perks that give this type of missions, they only make it even more dangerous (perk of the protector of farharbor yes it is dangerous 💀) directly nate with all the special perks of options, or those that are scattered around the map, even without being a synth, the unfortunate man is very dangerous 💀, also if we count weapons... there is the supervisor's guardian, the judgment of the atom, the fatman who throws two bombs, a shotgun explosive combat and other half-broken ones in addition to having weapons from all the eras of the fallouts (or at least most of them)... well, yes it is dangerous nate
@@Lag_EO forgot the borken GRX implants with a Turbo addiction, OP melee builds + combat techinques that would allow even an untrained in Unarmed version of the Courier Six to knock on it's ass literally anything.
Fax, people overrate Courier 6 (I would give Courier weaponry due to NCR/Old World Blues weapons, and Experience to Nate due to his prolonged time in the Military, been involved in the war against the Canadians and Chinese, possibly medium-high rank due to him having a power armor but that's just bethesda writer headcanon) Can I suggest -Lone Wanderer (FO3) vs Vault Dweller (FO1) -The Warrior (FO:Tactics) Vs Nate (FO4)
@@EatFuckingTimothy I would debate that the Lone Wanderer has better more feats than Courier 6 but y'all ain't ready for that conversation. But yes, Courier 6 feats is godly due to them surviving 2 gunshots on the head, beating the biggest (or second biggest?) enemy in the entire franchise (Old World Blues Roboscorpion Boss), beating the most skilled legionnaires like Legate Lanius, Ulysses and Joshua Graham (If you want to.)
Also, lore wise in this topic is kinda muddy because we don't know what exactly canon decisions and paths that we did in the game AND DLCs. But if it's like a normal Courier 6, good ending NCR/Mr. House, all side quests and DLCs done the harder way, then Courier 6 feats has better feats than all Fallout protagonists (aside from the Lone Wanderer imo)
The courier has access to an orbital laser, he takes weapons and should also get speed since you can sprint in new vegas...it called holstering your gun plus he had the grx implant which is basically jet in F04 but it lasts 3× as long and it's non addictive
Orbital lazer takes time to charge so all The Sole Survivor has to do is use the Blitz perk hit him before The Courier releases the trigger. You literally cant sprint in NV. You're doing a basic jog (Even the game itself doesn't say thats a sprint) So The SS has speed over The Courier
The SS doesnt get addicted to drugs at his peak so it doesnt matter and he can combine that with nerd rage (albeit low health) So they both cancel out. Since the implant isnt passive the SS can literally just stop him from using it via VATS and Blitz perk
They should show the courier in fallout new vegas and should show nate some time they should both be shown killing someone strong in therre scenes that would be cool to have sadly we probably wont
@@EatFuckingTimothy a way they could deal with that is have Courier in his normal outfit and Sole Survivor in t-60 power armor but have him be voiced by Brian (the guy who voiced him in the game) or something
Well the Show would be over if they showed up hell even the Lone Wanderer who is less experienced than Courier and Nate would wreck everyone in the show 😂
Bro are yall forgetting the endings because in the rail road you DESTROY the Prindwind as well as the institute by nuking it basicly he can destroy entire factions such as the BOS, the rail road, the Freaking boogeymen of the commonwealth aka the Institute and even the dang minuet men if you decide to be a raider from nuka world and the FACT that Nate can kill some superhuman freak as known as SWAN In a park and Kill a DEATHCLAW 20 minutes after waking up from vault 111 and maxing him out in stats makes him so strong, durable, accurate with guns, CAN LITERALLY TELEPORT TO YO -ASS- WITH BLITS PERK, And can hack and unlock anything you have so Nate would win like bro has at least 5-6 feats
PA in fallout 4 is so much more powerful than new vegas in NV PA is worthless the Elite Riot gear is arguably the best whereas the SS has access to X-01(X-02 if you count CC and all that weaponry even the BFG) and an insanely large level system meaning he can obtain all the perks unlike the courier and become tanky asf with his constantly increasing health
Here's the thing. It's really depending on the choices because courier 6 in some playthroughs is borderline a demigod with intelligence mashing that of the think tank and can still uppercut somebody into the stratosphere while the sole survivor in some places. If you play long enough is a unkillable demigod that can fly and can literally breathe people out of existence by staring at them
I don't think that the pre-war experience will help and be a differentiator for those who have survived their entire lives in the desert, just watch the desert rangers or even the NCR x BOS battle, it's also a sin that in these battles the DLCs are not Taken into account, neither Archimedes nor the securitron army, in Fallout 4, let's be realistic, are the minutemen going to skewer the securitrons? Will Nate expect a civilized battle? It is demonstrated more than once that anyone who comes from the vault is as innocent as a puppy, people in Fallout 4 always know that Nate was from a vault, in a place like Mojave he would have turned to scrap on his first exit to ask how the world, let's face it, the Raiders next to the legion are bad children..
@@anti4107 no you cant? I mean like the brotherhood in fallout 4 is among the prydwin. The minutemen doesn’t exist until you grow it The railroad is like 15 people And the institute, although pretty large, pales in comparison to Caesar’s legion and ESPECIALLY the NCR. Like the Mojave chapter of the BOS, has around the same amount of paladins, as fallout 4’s. Like destroying the NCR, Legion, Mojave BOS. Is WAY more impressive. The NCR just in the Mojave would dick on every other faction in fallout 4.
@booker4984 just say you are a NV glazer I meant that as the player you can pretty much do anything with your fallout character in every game like wiping out armys or entire factions which in turn doesn't make the courier destroying a faction impressive when its possible for every character to do that if you the player wants to
Also if you want to include gameplay mechanics like levels sole survivor has infinite levels which already makes him stronger than the courier because he can have and max out every perk while the courier can't
@@anti4107 NV be the best fallout game though, it’s not even glazing. You can’t glaze something that objectively deserves to be glazed. Yes No Sarcastic (They all do the same thing)
Dude just completely forgot that lonesome road tells us that the courier is a LIVING LEGEND in both NCR territory and Legion territory, even prior to getting shot in the head. The courier has been through a significant portion of California as nothing more than a courier. Them getting shot in goodsprings was quite literally a 40 karat run of bad luck. Courier solos, no diff.
Fnv has over 200 weapons while F4 only has 195, fuck you mean Nate has better weaponry? Not to mention the courier has the possibility to use 2 nuclear missiles or the cloud from the sierra madre
Well yes but no Nate is literally a pre War veteran who knows the kill count he already had before we start the game experience means everything I would say Nate 1st Courier 2nd lone wanderer 3rd place
@@EatFuckingTimothy they literally call Nate a War hero in the game and Nate's been deployed in tough places like Anchorage for one we've never seen what he did while serving but him being called a War hero must mean he achieved some feats while serving
@@TheEmperorRaidouthe Courier is literally just a decorated Mail man in the wasteland before we start the game it's not until we start the game and playthrough it that Courier 6 becomes a badass
Depends on how you look at it maybe the Courier avoided combat and just delivered packages only I mean he literally gets Murked by Benny as soon as you start the game he must've not been a wasteland Veteran if he gets caught by benny like that 😂
Are we forgetting that the sole survivor has a possibly INFINITE amount of levels?
Actually, that's more of a gameplay thing.
Level is not a real thing in terms of lore, it’s a gameplay mechanic.
Have you ever watched the fallout TV show every single character in the show has their own level. Hell they even have charisma checks
@@insertenombregenerico749so is decapitating people with a punch.
It’s not about levels it’s about feats
Getting shot and surviving buried alive is a endurance feat not durability
The mailman having half his body replaced with metal is a durability feat
@@havoc989 yeah but he specifically mentioned him getting shot as a durability feat which it isnt
@havoc989 thats not durability either 💀
Bro got saved by victor
100% it’s Nate people get so blinded by NV and nostalgia they endlessly glaze courier. Guy was a decorated veteran, killed a cybernetic augmented serial assassin and his robots.
It's an rpg character. Not a guy
@@EatFuckingTimothybased off the intro of the game you can pretty much say Nate was the intended protagonist
@@EatFuckingTimothy nate being the actual protagonist in the lore makes the most sense tell me how would a civilian be able to operate a suit of power armor at the start of the game like nora???
Awesome comparison this is how it would actually go Lore wise. people honestly prefer Courier just because of how good Fallout new Vegas is which i don't blame them but Lore wise Nate would destroy Lone wanderer and Courier Dude is literally a pre war veteran with a crap ton of experience Fallout Tv show shows this with cooper Howard with how easily he destroyed a Bos soldier with power armor in less than a second
Cooper Howard was familiar with the flaw of T-45 power armor (the basis for the T-60 power armor), which he used for his own benefit with some armor piercing rounds.
Other than that, his gun skills and him being a ghoul doesn't make him special in comparison to Sole Survivor (Let alone other parties involved). Hell, would be fair to compare him to Raul.
plus, let's not forget that a tribal from Arroyo village - the place founded by a vault dweller who had no fucking trraining at all prior to leaving vault 13 - faced a behemoth of a super mutant with a bigass gun, who wore one of the most advanced variations of the power armor that ever existed in Fallout universe and defeated it.
So who is to say a Courier with a broken combo of GRX implants/turbo/all of it + melee build + broken combat techiqes that can knock even a legendary deathclaw on it's ass or a Lone Wanderer with his broken crits can't be a competition?
@@WackRusDud I guess but one thing is for certain the Sole survivor definitely has more experience and combat IQ compared to the Courier and Lone wanderer he has that big advantage over them guy is literally a 200+ year old War veteran who fought in crazy times. shit the first thing you do when you get out is literally kill a Deathclaw in Concord that's honestly to show how Dangerous Nate is killing a deathclaw with a rusty power Armor I only include the Courier and lone wanderer because I Think Nate the Courier and Wanderer are the main trio of the series the other protagonist's are way to outdated in terribly aged games that's why I dont include them but of course the Courier and wanderer can definitely put up a great fight they aren't pushovers makes me wonder how the hell none of them have crossed paths with one another they're essentially all still alive and still roaming
@@AALion2004 to be fair, deathclaws are also weird (difficulty wise).
In fallout 3 - they are not the worst thing you can face even on the hardest difficulty. New Vegas deathclaws? Even on "Very Easy" you do not want to stumble upon ONE with your pants down.
Fallout 4 deathclaws are a bit of a 50/50 - bullet sponges, but they just love to run sideways all the damn time
Courier 6 Wins imo
Intelligence = Outsmarted think tank , everyone in the old world blues , including his own brain , tricked Elijah in his own game
Combat = Can be equal , but i go with courier because of which special training from each faction , examples : Ranger takedown , Legion Assault , Scribe Counter
Speed + Agility = Capable of moving at a fraction of the speed of soundwaves fired from the Sonic Emitter, and can dodge them at relatively close range
Not being to sprint because of game mechanics is just kinda stupid
Weaponry : SS weapons are toys compared to the courier , the courier has : All american , Elijah laser rifle , Sprtel-Wood 9700 , C-Finder , Anti-Material , etc
Battle IQ : Defeated enemies way tougher than him , SS was just a soldier , and in every faction ending the idea of how the assault goes is not made by him , and he was only a soldier , not a general or smth , meanwhile courier can change the tactics in a way more effective way during the hoover dam assault
+Still a peak edit , valid take
IQ: debatable. SS outsmarted a lot of scientists from Institute and became the leader. Knows nano future technologies. Chip programming. Immortality in terms of science. Can create dangerous robots from scrap. Found a way to use Deathclaws as his personal pets. Fixed Dima's memory. Adopted to Wasteland super fast, while Courier sucked Benny's big stolen platinum cheap, while being on wasteland much longer than SS.
Battle IQ: Wasteland battle IQ doesn't mean shit against military war experience. Look at Ghoul from Fallout show, who clowned well equipped and trained BoS members with power armours and NCR. Legion assault tactics? Bruh💀. It's a banch of savages. Same goes to NCR, who are not well equipped,trained and strong. Even with all combined training, courier couldn't do shit against battle IQ of SS. Battle of the dam wasn't made by Courier, guys like Yes Man/House literally made an entire battle strategy plan.
Both combat and battle iq goes to SS.
Ss:I would like to roll to intimidate.
For explanation the intimidation perk has the ability to prevent any lower level human from attacking you. Last I checked courier has a level cap of 50 with lonesome road, SS doesn’t, so any higher level and yeah. (This just popped into my head and I’ve never seen this be said before)
Holy moly you are BEYOND bias
@@sectorred_2389 SS was a mere soldier in the war , nothing more , you might have a point about combat , but still , in nv courier can still do more than just throwing punches in the air , we haven't seen SS do anything at all
@@ethanthomas8087 😭😭that's game mechanics cuz
Id take Nate over any Fallout protag in a straight up fight.
He only get past LW , the rest will beat him
@Crawleraep in terms of combat skill strength and speed I don't think so. Taking overall haxes etc into account then maybe The Courier and The Chosen one could win but even still there is alot to be said about LW based on his usage of the Zetan Arsenal.
@@NomadAEP they are all goated
He's a war veteran lmao
Chosen one pulls up and its over
Wait someone not glazing the mail man?!
Its crazy honestly every fallout editor glazes the living shit out of that overrated mailman
@@anti4107 fr, one time a guy made a edit of courier vs the doom slayer and somehow the courier won 💀
@@random-guy579 what 💀💀
@@anti4107 I won't be surprised if the Glazers say that the courier could beat the whole of the elder scrolls
@@random-guy579I still say 6 would win- but against fucking doom guy? No matter what version doom boi is taking on the whole verse.
Nate takes Durability, courier takes Endurance.
no lmao courier literally survived 2 gunshots to the head and being buried alive
That’s why Courier takes endurance. Durability is how much resistance you have and endurance is how much pain/damage can handle
@@Kexetey That’s not durability… If you get hurt easily but survive it your durability is bad but your endurance is good.
@@Kexetey Durability as a quick example is being resistance to damage, if you get shot and it passes through you, or causes you to nearly die then you don’t have good Durability. The courier also needed to be revived to survive a bullet to the head. The sole survivor has much better and more perks for damage resistance to nearly all types of damage besides poison. Sole survivor definitely takes durability.
y’all clearly have your things mixed up, if the courier got up from those headshots and pushed on and walked to the clinic, that would be mostly endurance, but the courier didn’t even get up after he was shot, he was unconscious, he tanked 2x GSWs, being buried alive, then was alive with minimal medical assistance
W. Finally someone doesn’t ride the courier.
Being well written and in a good game≠power level
Your really underrated bro
I’m sorry but In fallout 4 you can become a walking Tiger 1 Tank.
not canon lol
people in real life survive headshots, its uncommon but with small caliber and fast treartment like courier 6 quite possible. SS has power armour that dwarfs any armour from vegas, he takes durability
no courier outfeats in durability lmao
@@Kexetey how? You can't just say the equivalent of "Nuh uh" and think that's making a point
@@davegriggersole survivor has no solid canon durability feats lmao
Also SS doesn’t have PA in this fight lol 😂😂😂
@@Kexetey and courier 6 does? I recently saw on the news that an 8 year old was shot in the head in a water park shooting, and he survived. So that isn't a good feat, and other than that he has no real feats so yeah
Why is the font all wobbly? It makes it hard to read the small text
pause the video
@@Kexetey the problem is the wobbly text makes the words and letters sometimes blend together making it hard to understand what the word is supposed to be
Take me to church @@Catboxwatch
Experience should go to the courier he has lived in the wasteland longer and his whole job was to carry things across the wasteland for others 😅
He did get experience the sole survivor got battle experience for obvious reasons but courier did get the experience point
Sole survivor served in the US army.
@@georgevirtus I get he has military experience but that won’t translate much the courier has spent his entire life in the wasteland the sole survivor doesn’t have the wasteland experience
@@georgevirtusand fought against properly trained Chinese soldiers with proper standard with up to date equipment
Caveman vs Courier Six
I Mean The Chosen Chad vs Courier Six
Chosen one wins
I dont remember the Courier killing Frank Horrigan
If we take SS and a CS full potencial (dlc incluided)... well, curier should run for his live 💀
Courier should run?💀💀💀
@@bigouncebounce well... imagine if nate is a synth... if he knows that, in base, tecnically, he physically destroys in base, and counting the automatron, if he modifies himself... this would be like a rebbeca vs adam smasher 💀 (and that for all the protagonists of the fallouts except for my man who has a spaceship, just for that's directly unassailable) and let's say that's not the case, let's say that Nate is a human... well, one of the perks is that when he stays still he is very, VERY resistant to all types of damage, including the best armor (far harbor and legendary pieces) and a maximum level ballistic underwear Curier would barely do minimal damage even if he attacks him with full power, since if we make Nate in the dlc make the right decisions (that is, since he is the general of the minutmen, in the dlc make the most peaceful option in each of these) far harbor would be safe, he would probably have killed the nuka-cola word, he would have gotten rid of the enclave, take care of the mechanist (which would give him access to create robots everywhere that would be dangerous) and the same for the brotherhood, counting special perks that give this type of missions, they only make it even more dangerous (perk of the protector of farharbor yes it is dangerous 💀) directly nate with all the special perks of options, or those that are scattered around the map, even without being a synth, the unfortunate man is very dangerous 💀, also if we count weapons... there is the supervisor's guardian, the judgment of the atom, the fatman who throws two bombs, a shotgun explosive combat and other half-broken ones in addition to having weapons from all the eras of the fallouts (or at least most of them)... well, yes it is dangerous nate
@@Lag_EO forgot the borken GRX implants with a Turbo addiction, OP melee builds + combat techinques that would allow even an untrained in Unarmed version of the Courier Six to knock on it's ass literally anything.
The Sole Survivor Wins high diff. This fight could go either way with the right arguments
Nate the rake
Fax, people overrate Courier 6
(I would give Courier weaponry due to NCR/Old World Blues weapons, and Experience to Nate due to his prolonged time in the Military, been involved in the war against the Canadians and Chinese, possibly medium-high rank due to him having a power armor but that's just bethesda writer headcanon)
Can I suggest
-Lone Wanderer (FO3) vs Vault Dweller (FO1)
-The Warrior (FO:Tactics) Vs Nate (FO4)
Lore Wise. Courier has just better feats. It's sucks, but it's true
@@EatFuckingTimothy I would debate that the Lone Wanderer has better more feats than Courier 6 but y'all ain't ready for that conversation.
But yes, Courier 6 feats is godly due to them surviving 2 gunshots on the head, beating the biggest (or second biggest?) enemy in the entire franchise (Old World Blues Roboscorpion Boss), beating the most skilled legionnaires like Legate Lanius, Ulysses and Joshua Graham (If you want to.)
Also, lore wise in this topic is kinda muddy because we don't know what exactly canon decisions and paths that we did in the game AND DLCs.
But if it's like a normal Courier 6, good ending NCR/Mr. House, all side quests and DLCs done the harder way, then Courier 6 feats has better feats than all Fallout protagonists (aside from the Lone Wanderer imo)
As much as I love new Vegas, this actually felt pretty unbiased
Durability is should have gone to sole survivor behind he takes a hell of a beating most of the time due to power armor people
The courier has access to an orbital laser, he takes weapons and should also get speed since you can sprint in new vegas...it called holstering your gun plus he had the grx implant which is basically jet in F04 but it lasts 3× as long and it's non addictive
Orbital lazer takes time to charge so all The Sole Survivor has to do is use the Blitz perk hit him before The Courier releases the trigger. You literally cant sprint in NV. You're doing a basic jog (Even the game itself doesn't say thats a sprint) So The SS has speed over The Courier
The SS doesnt get addicted to drugs at his peak so it doesnt matter and he can combine that with nerd rage (albeit low health) So they both cancel out. Since the implant isnt passive the SS can literally just stop him from using it via VATS and Blitz perk
@@TheEmperorRaidou the courier used VATS to fire the Lazer, so the SS is just sitting there waiting to get blasted because he's frozen
For a moment my brain short-circuited until I remembered what you mean.
@insertenombregenerico749 for some reason YT tends to delete my comments for some reason. I provided more reasonings to why the SS bodies
They should show the courier in fallout new vegas and should show nate some time they should both be shown killing someone strong in therre scenes that would be cool to have sadly we probably wont
Imagine these two showing up in the show
They are custom characters
@@EatFuckingTimothy a way they could deal with that is have Courier in his normal outfit and Sole Survivor in t-60 power armor but have him be voiced by Brian (the guy who voiced him in the game) or something
Well the Show would be over if they showed up hell even the Lone Wanderer who is less experienced than Courier and Nate would wreck everyone in the show 😂
@@coffinboy556or just use Nates default face
Great vid and I agree Courier FP (Full Potential slams)
The courier and the sole survivor (Prime) vs The institution
Who would win?
CS and SS solo
If courier six is Canadian Nate will definitely win.
NAH IM A FALLOUT FAN BUT THESE TWO SONGS TOGETHER GO HARDDDD
Bro are yall forgetting the endings because in the rail road you DESTROY the Prindwind as well as the institute by nuking it basicly he can destroy entire factions such as the BOS, the rail road, the Freaking boogeymen of the commonwealth aka the Institute and even the dang minuet men if you decide to be a raider from nuka world and the FACT that Nate can kill some superhuman freak as known as SWAN In a park and Kill a DEATHCLAW 20 minutes after waking up from vault 111 and maxing him out in stats makes him so strong, durable, accurate with guns, CAN LITERALLY TELEPORT TO YO -ASS- WITH BLITS PERK, And can hack and unlock anything you have so Nate would win like bro has at least 5-6 feats
PA in fallout 4 is so much more powerful than new vegas in NV PA is worthless the Elite Riot gear is arguably the best whereas the SS has access to X-01(X-02 if you count CC and all that weaponry even the BFG) and an insanely large level system meaning he can obtain all the perks unlike the courier and become tanky asf with his constantly increasing health
💀 dude stop comparing game mechanics it’s not even fair
Here's the thing. It's really depending on the choices because courier 6 in some playthroughs is borderline a demigod with intelligence mashing that of the think tank and can still uppercut somebody into the stratosphere while the sole survivor in some places. If you play long enough is a unkillable demigod that can fly and can literally breathe people out of existence by staring at them
Oh yeah I legit forgot Nate doesn’t have a cap on his level so that means he can literally get every perk and just keep leveling up
I don’t get why the courier can kill because his backstory of him just being a mailman
I don't think that the pre-war experience will help and be a differentiator for those who have survived their entire lives in the desert, just watch the desert rangers or even the NCR x BOS battle, it's also a sin that in these battles the DLCs are not Taken into account, neither Archimedes nor the securitron army, in Fallout 4, let's be realistic, are the minutemen going to skewer the securitrons? Will Nate expect a civilized battle? It is demonstrated more than once that anyone who comes from the vault is as innocent as a puppy, people in Fallout 4 always know that Nate was from a vault, in a place like Mojave he would have turned to scrap on his first exit to ask how the world, let's face it, the Raiders next to the legion are bad children..
Nate is the best fallout protagonist because he actually has motivation besides commitment to another
omg the brainrot, Nate have no feats over The chosen One and Courier six, and this video is base only on game mechanics not LORE
If it’s game mechanics then it’s Nate but if it’s lore then it’s the mail man so yeah
Okay but courier six is da mailman
From where are Those real Life Shoots?
But sole survivor can go over 10 in S.P.E.C.I.A.L
I feel it would be very difficult to determine this
Yeah but even if courier was fp sol survivor full power would still slam
Let’s go
Frank horrigan vs sole survivor
SS wipes his ass with Horrigan
wdym depending on build? He would be at his strongest lol@@IM_BILL_CIPHER_TRUST_ME_BRO
Can’t we just agree that they’re both peak characters
Courier six: who tf shoot in my head?
IQ easily to Courier
Uh. No.
You're telling me that guy beats the John Wick of Fallout. No. Please do more research on Courier 6.
how does he win? Make a good argument besides being a fanboy
The courier literally can obliterate an entire NCR/Legion Army.
Any fallout character you play as can destroy a army your point??
@@anti4107 no you cant? I mean like the brotherhood in fallout 4 is among the prydwin.
The minutemen doesn’t exist until you grow it
The railroad is like 15 people
And the institute, although pretty large, pales in comparison to Caesar’s legion and ESPECIALLY the NCR.
Like the Mojave chapter of the BOS, has around the same amount of paladins, as fallout 4’s.
Like destroying the NCR, Legion, Mojave BOS. Is WAY more impressive. The NCR just in the Mojave would dick on every other faction in fallout 4.
@booker4984 just say you are a NV glazer I meant that as the player you can pretty much do anything with your fallout character in every game like wiping out armys or entire factions which in turn doesn't make the courier destroying a faction impressive when its possible for every character to do that if you the player wants to
Also if you want to include gameplay mechanics like levels sole survivor has infinite levels which already makes him stronger than the courier because he can have and max out every perk while the courier can't
@@anti4107 NV be the best fallout game though, it’s not even glazing. You can’t glaze something that objectively deserves to be glazed.
Yes
No
Sarcastic
(They all do the same thing)
Id win
Only Chosen One can take down 6 in a duel tbh.
sole survivor frozen over 200 years
Fax, sole survivor slams
I mean like you sure?
I still don’t understand travel speed because isn’t the courier the mailman 💀
The sole survivor can sprint while the courier can't lol
@@anti4107 technically you can but it is just slow it’s realistic speed
@@Themostuselessdumpsterfireinex...what?
@@TheEmperorRaidou they made the courier run slow to emphasize how large the Mojave is
@@Themostuselessdumpsterfireinex when was this... stated?
Drip - Courier 6
Endgame maxed implants courier high diffs
Maxed implants?Doesnt really matter tbh
Dude just completely forgot that lonesome road tells us that the courier is a LIVING LEGEND in both NCR territory and Legion territory, even prior to getting shot in the head. The courier has been through a significant portion of California as nothing more than a courier. Them getting shot in goodsprings was quite literally a 40 karat run of bad luck. Courier solos, no diff.
uhhh...what does all of that have to do wi5h anything? The Sole Survivor Still blitzes😂
Oh right but somehow he can't fight for shit in the beginning of the game???
It makes no sense giving the courier all that lore in dlcs but somehow he is a newbie in the beginning even if it was for gameplay purposes
Fnv has over 200 weapons while F4 only has 195, fuck you mean Nate has better weaponry? Not to mention the courier has the possibility to use 2 nuclear missiles or the cloud from the sierra madre
@@ColonelAugustusAutumns accident buddy
@@Kexeteyyou still have the option at the end of the game and if you go back after the dlc is finished the other missiles are still there
Ever heard of quality over quantity? Also SS has bfg 3000 from doom so ggs
If the sole survivor has creation club items then its over
Creation Club is stated to be canon
Courier Six win
is this based on lore or gameplay?
both
Nah
I agree..but nv is the 2nd best game oat, with fo4 at 3rd place
the sole survivor had power armor training
So did the courier 💀
@@Quincy148 the sole survivor had power armor training first
courier should win, he's been surviving the harsh wasteland long before and has taken down tougher enemies
Well yes but no Nate is literally a pre War veteran who knows the kill count he already had before we start the game experience means everything I would say Nate 1st Courier 2nd lone wanderer 3rd place
@@AALion2004 No feats on what he did while serving. Show me where. Courier slams if we are talking lore wise
@@EatFuckingTimothy they literally call Nate a War hero in the game and Nate's been deployed in tough places like Anchorage for one we've never seen what he did while serving but him being called a War hero must mean he achieved some feats while serving
@@EatFuckingTimothyno feats of the courier surviving Mojave before we play as him..
@@TheEmperorRaidouthe Courier is literally just a decorated Mail man in the wasteland before we start the game it's not until we start the game and playthrough it that Courier 6 becomes a badass
Name songs
Its called Take me to Church
SS casually being able to teleport and give the Courier a One Shot
Courier casually freezes time in vats to do a 100% critical shot with a explosive round
@@tsrker7211 This isn't doing anything to SS targeting your stamina, PA and level in the end game
@@Fyrten Anti-material rifle + v.a.t.s 🤫
😭🙏this smth a random who played fo4 only because of game pass would say
@@NomadAEP No, i buy The G.o.t.y Editon.
Honostly beinf a pre war soldier vs being a man who travles all across the wastland with valuable packages would be near even in experience
Depends on how you look at it maybe the Courier avoided combat and just delivered packages only I mean he literally gets Murked by Benny as soon as you start the game he must've not been a wasteland Veteran if he gets caught by benny like that 😂
Courier slams negative diff if we are talking lore wise. Game machanics wise is a never ending battle of attrition
Custom characters in v.s battles now?
Naw one armor piercer from so far away