Next Gen Ford Ranger Wildtrack Order Cancelled... Why? ~||~ Plus What Did We Buy Instead?
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2022
- Hello Everyone,
In this weeks episode Ash and I sit down to discuss why we cancelled our Next Gen Ford Ranger Wildtrack order that was due in the next few months.
We explain in both our minds what we didn't like about the Next Gen Ford Ranger WildTrack.
We then reveal our new 4wd project, show what car out there beats the Next Gen Ford Ranger Wildtrack....... The Toyota Landcruiser 79 series dual cab of cause. Is there any other car out there better then the 79 series?
We discuss all the pros and cons to the 79 series Landcruiser, run though all the talked about "problems" with the 79 series. Are the true or just a crock?
Hope you enjoy this one :) - Авто та транспорт
Lots of excuses for purchasing, what is essentially a 40 year old barge. I thought you wanted a new car for your money? What you have is door cards, handles, A/C controls, fan switch, pedals etc from a 1983 75 series. Not to mention the disdain that Toyota treat their customers with by dishing out crap like a rear axle 100mm narrower than the front, a park brake that fails to work once it leaves the dealership, a turning circle that will require a paddock to turn in and a suspension system with less flex than a house brick. Sure you can spend up and fix all this crap that the factory didn't bother to, and bingo - you've just spent the equivalent of a new Ranger!
Hey mate,
You buy a 79 because of the fact you are getting parts that are 30 years old. No issues everything just keeps on going, no electric 4wd to fail everything is manual. Considering the new Rangers transmission is failing under load and engines are blowing under load, looks like we made the right choice 🙂
@@Off.Track4x4 your understanding of the subject matter is 😂, how many transmissions dipstick
He will soon realise what a terrible mistake he has made ,and
Then the extra 40k to enable it to be bearable as a touring vehicle
hes trying to justify the bad decision and she doesnt seem too impressed hahahaha and then she revs it and you hear the sound of severely underwhelming power figures.
Definitely doesn't need any justification, drive one and you will understand. The figures don't mean anything, we both agree the 79 feels more powerful then the ranger even though figures don't back that. You can't beat engine size.
I think this is the figure you're looking for ua-cam.com/video/3ZpljI1lKAs/v-deo.html
does he ever shut up. joking. nice review. still going a 2024 ford ranger. cheers
Hahahahaha love the comment, I'm sure Ash thinks that alot. Let me know what you think of the new Ford
@@Off.Track4x4 keep you posted. test drove the 2.0 4cylinder and the 3.0 v6. went with the v6. should be here in 2 months
Ive had one for 3 years and love it. if i won powerball i'd buy 10 of them one for every day and a couple of spares for fun
Hahaha 🤣😂 get one in every colour of the rainbow 🌈
Have you tuned yours?
Going off the figures we all ways planned to, after having it for a few weeks we aren't to sure it needs a tune.
@@Off.Track4x4 yer just a mild tune 260hp from gsl only trouble i've found is once i started modifing it i couldn't stop hahaha
Hahahahaha 🤣😂 I love it!
It gets a bit like that.
I pulled my deposit as well. Similar concerns but the tipping point for me is the fuel filter mounting under the body on the chasis rail and the plastic sump pan on the transmission.
G'Day mate,
Yeah looks like you and I were pretty smart, alot of transmissions are failing under load.
I'm sure ford would have loved to put a bigger 6 cylinder in the utes, but to much pressure from countries to keep emissions low
Bogan by 2
@@Off.Track4x4 they have a v6 you dribbler
@@tyzon00800 can't you read or something? I said bigger 6 cylinder! They put a small size engine in then the old one. 3.2L 5 cylinder down to a 3L 6 cylinder. I said I bet they would have loved to put in a bigger one, like a 4L 6 cylinder
@@Off.Track4x4 have a look at the numbers the 3ltr is bigger dribbler
Hey Dylan, my Raptor arrives this week. Let us know if you want to have a drive🤙🏻
Nice a raptor! I got to have a play with one at work on Friday. The exhaust sounds amazing!!! I haven't looked into the figures at all with the rapter, but they look fun for off road, just not a big payload or towing machine, more for a hell of alot of fun.
Let me know how the petrol goes off road in sand and mud. I'd recommend a throttle control and tone it down a bit when in mud and sand, help keep traction.
Alot of the old ranger in the new one .are you kidding . You serious ? If the landcruiser is what you got , then why would you even consider a ranger 2 totally different beasts.
Yep two very different cars, a year on we feel we made the right choice with the 79. Just keeps impressing us.
Great decision! Once you owned one, there is nothing else you want to own.
Thank you for watching Marcus 👍
Before we had a 79 we didn't understand why people said they were so good. Now we get it, such an amazing vehicle! Can't wait to see it off road.
Have you tuned yours?
I'll check it out 👍
We keep hearing how good they drive after a tune. Watch this space.
What’s the decibel reading while your driving?
If use an App, and my Defender is 88db at 100kmh
Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you! I was going to film a video on this comparing our cars. The 79 comes up great compared the your defender, ours at 100kms makes 57db
Are you talking the bi turbo or the V6? the v6 isnt highly strung at all, has plenty of play for a further tune. quite impressive numbers stock
Hello mate, yes the V6 if you take it to any good dyno tuner, they will not push much more out of it. You can get a little bit more but will come at a cost of longevity. Very nice cars though.
Horses for courses, you buy what you can afford, I'd love a V8 Cruiser but I could never afford one!
We can't afford one ether, just happy to get a massive car loan. I figure you never know what's going to happen, you could die next week so why not enjoy our money now 😊
We justed towed with it for the first time today 👌
Mate your wife isn’t happy that says it all.
Hahaha 🤣😂 welll
she does have to put up with me all day long.
Na down side to dating a teacher, they have a resting bitch face for dealing with the kids.
@@Off.Track4x4 maybe she is in the wrong job if that how she interacts with the kids , may be it’s just you
Are you talking about the output on the v6 twin turbo? at 184kw? I'd be far more worried about their bi-turbo pumping out 157kw from a 2.0L
You have to understand, engine tech has come a long way. 184kw from a v6 TD is pretty well nothing. The PS motor has been on offer for a while in the states and is in huge demand with minor issues to the motor itself. I think the v6 is an absolutely fantastic option and had I not had a v8 cruiser, the everest v6 would 100% be sitting in my driveway.
The other thing I'd like to ask for clarification on, you said 'There's a lot of other car out there that have a lot bigger motors that when people tune them safely, they still don't put the numbers out that the ranger is putting out.'
You're talking about wheel HP vs flywheel HP. Flywheel will always be far higher than wheel due to drive-train losses. For reference, my cruiser is promoted as having 200kW when in reality, I put around the 130-140kW to the wheels. Tuned, I'd be lucky to make that 200kW at the wheels unless I upgrade turbo's and injectors.
G'Day mate,
Thanks for watching 🙂
Yep talking about the 6 cylder Lion engine, agreed the 4 cylder is much worse.
Yes cars have advanced but I disagree they have gotten better, EGRs and DPFs kill the lifespan of modern desels. There is a reason why you don't see them on trucks.
Yeah the stats the car manufacturers give us are not the try figures as they don't measure at the wheels like a dyno does. Looking at ranger motor in its past formats in F150 and Rang Rover this is the hardest it's been pushed yet. We just feel we will get a far longer and less headache of a life from the 79 then we will the new ranger.
@@Off.Track4x4 I disagree with your dpf statement. Isuzu have been running them for years in their trucks.
I agree with your egr statement.
Be super careful with the catch can. I've seen and heard plenty of issues with people installing catch cans backwards and blowing seals. Get it tuned and just the egr off. No catch can required then.
Your best bet would be to tune it. Just Autos in Nambour would be your best option for tuning.
Depending on where you are, veop is best for mechanical work.
@@Off.Track4x4 That V6 has been around for over 15 years in Landrovers, Jaguars, pumping out 600Nm reliably. A proven engine platform, that has been further refined for 2022. Based on the smaller 2.7 litre Territory engine, which see's a few hundred thousand of them still punting around Oz.
Congrats on your purchase. I do believe that you have made the right decision, as long as Ash is happy with it. If you don’t mind me asking, how many km has it done? It looks in mint condition.
Just a couple of opinions. Tyre noise maybe be more noticeable, if you change to a more aggressive tread pattern. Drive the vehicle for around 12 months before making a decision on doing engine mods, unless its really needed for towing the horse float.
Looking forward to the new vehicle visiting new places in the future!
G'Day Gary,
Thank you for watching 🙂
We tried to find as low kms as we could with out a DPF and with no mods. We figured if it wasn't modified then shouldn't have done much beach work. The one we got has 111,000km on the clock.
We can't wait to take it out and test the mighty 79. Just need this weather pattern we are in to change don't seem to get to many sunny weekends these days on the east coast 😂🤣
We thought we would be tuning it straight away going off what others say about the lack of power, but it feels amazing power wise, I think lift and tyres next. But this time will not be putting mud tyres on 🤣😂
@@Off.Track4x4 your statement about the engine rpm @ 110kmh approaching 3000 has been bothering today. The work vehicle that I drove today was registering close to 2200 rpm. Have you found 5th gear? Is your tyre size 265/70 R16. Other than that, I’m guessing that maybe the gearing ratio may have been changed. FWIW, I’m no mechanic, not even mechanical minded, but I don’t think that is normal, may explain the shit house economy, but still should be getting 15L/100km if not towing.
@@garylienert that was with stock tyres, now we put on as big as we can legally the reves are down around 2500 at 100kms/h.
When we tow that drops to 2200 at 100kms/h. We have found the 79s were built to work and they are not happy unless under load
Think your missus wanted the Ranger
She did, now we got the 70 she is definitely happy she didn't! Especially being we are using the 70 for what it was made for. A farm truck
Should have bought the mighty triton 💪
Paris, my friend has a Triton raves about it, such good bang for buck and look good aswell. Unfortunately not a big enough engine for Ash's hevey horse float 😔
So you didn't buy a new ranger because they're not good value for money, then bought the most over priced farm truck available? 😂
Sorry
Don't be sorry, I'm happy to hear everyones thoughts and opinions.
Remember the 79 is only 85k because it's so basic, Toyota gave people 2 options basic v8 you just pay for the steal and motor or pay 100k and get the 200 with bells and whistles.
If ford braught out a v8 it would be the same price as the 200 as it's the price of the motor plus the bells and whistles.
We just didn't think it was enough of a jump from the old ranger to the new one to make the jump up in price worth it. Remember the 79 didn't go up in price brand new unlike ford after covid
best decision ever. The rangers are rubbish..
They have been getting alot of break downs and ford not coming to the party with replacements. Yet our farm truck just keeps kicking over.
🤣This just comes across as a bloke trying to do anything to justify his dream 1980's 4WD. The Ranger V6 engine has been around for over a decade in Land Rovers etc and proven most reliable. This is a massive update from previous Rangers but most manufacturers don't change every nut and bolt. It will also use a shed load less diesel than the 70 and do so in a MUCH safer and more environmentally responsible fashion. The 70 Series wouldn't even exist anymore if not for the mining industry.
Happy for everyone to have an opinion, yep this is my dream car. When you drive one you will see why owners love them even if they are basic inside. There is just something about them and they are all ways a head turner.
Look up the figures the Lion engine was putting out in the Land Rovers and F150 you will see it's being pushed hard now.
@@Off.Track4x4 the lion is not being pushed hard. My Volvo 2.0 4cyl turbo diesel SUV puts out nearly that much. Engine technology has come a long way in the last decade. It just goes to show how inefficient Toyota’s V8 is. You talk about the lion V6 being pushed too hard yet are talking about tuning your 79 😂. Until the Ranger ECU gets unlocked we don’t really know what it has up it’s sleeve. Manufacturers are generally quite conservative on tune so they don’t run into warranty issues
yeah because you just joined the basic 79 owners cult, at least you get to drive the same rusted steel for next 30 years and she will always start@@Off.Track4x4
Then I guess you won't ever fly since planes have nothing but tech in them. What a ridiculous assumption. A ford ranger is not value for money? And then you proceed to drive in a tin box on wheels. Ok, whatever.
Do you have any idea how many parts on a plane break each and every day? Also how many parts need to be swapped everyday to prevent them breaking. I use to work in repair maintenance on planes so I do. Very bad comparison look at new phones vs old phones. If you can find an old nokia it it will turn on and still work, find a 4 year old Samsung it will be dead. Unfortunately modern technology is not designed to last, the population is obsessed with having the latest and greatest.
You guys have clearly lost the plot.
Happy to hear everyone opinion, but considering the new Rangers a blowing their transmission when under load. Nope pretty happy with out choice 😊
Guys I gave this video a try but it’s next level boring
Not for everyone, probably no need for the shitty comment though just click on next time camp
@@Off.Track4x4 if you don’t like honest comments then don’t post video’s, we do not live in a perfect world so you will not receive wall to wall positive comments, instead take this as constructive criticism and learn for any future content.
I think she needs a service and not talking about the car haha
That's a bit rude and not really needed mate.
@@Off.Track4x4 but true
He struggles in that area
WTF are those pants you have on flog?
Matt your mum didn't seem to mind taking them off with her teeth last night 😉
@@Off.Track4x4no wonder everyone thinks your a tosser
I was just laughing hard after listening to your "reasons" for going with the 70 series over the Ranger. Even your wife seems underwhelmed but is supportive just because she has to be.
If you want to rubbish technology and advancement, then you shouldn't own a cellphone, in fact, why not scrap the youtube channel altogether and send out your videos via messenger pigeons or smoke-signals.
This video was a total failure 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't know what is wrong with you in the head that you need to write stuff like this. No one reads your comments and thinks your smart, they just wonder what went wrong in your life to make you go online trying to put others down to better your life. Suggest you find a new hobby keyboard worrier.
No idea both of you , where was your engineering degree from again , the only thing that’s lags is you on the subject matter
Shitbox heaven
Man why don't you grow up, no place in this world for people like you who feel the need to run others down. If you don't agree just move on.
FYI though, when ever you put a comment on a video you actually help it because more popular.
@@Off.Track4x4 no it’s note check your numbers out it a joke
Under powered, over rated and over priced. That would have cost more than a new Ranger and you still have to wind up the windows bt hand. very sparton.
They have electric windows 😂🤣
How much do you think a V8 ranger would cost? Your comparing a 6 cylinder to a V8. There is what 10k difference in the 4 to the 6
I hear your views and they are valid to you and its your choice. Looking at the flintstone thought pattern for a moment living in the dinosaur age about technology your not trusting and saying pretty much all new tech is nothing but trouble is really a strange view. If you were really applying this to your life then you must be annoyed there are no more land line phones. Then at your comment you really want some thing new and this car has a lot of the old Ranger in it sort of counter to you tech phobia.
I wonder if you would have a LC300 if money was no issue and if so why when it is more highly strung than the V6 ranger.
Good luck with your new car.
No chance I would have a 300 or a 200 for that point. Does not last any where near as long as the 79 with just 1 turbo. Just like the old 6 cylinders with no turbos lasted longer then the current V8. My landline fine is a life saver as my mobile phone doesn't get receipting where I live, old technology still works though 👌
Seems like your arguments backfired on you bro sorry.
@@Off.Track4x4 What land line are you referring to or do you mean the internet all the land lines were removed years ago.