I have a 2005 Pilot and it's been bulletproof and the most rugged looking model. Didn't care for the last 2 problematic generations, but I think Honda finally got it together and made a great Pilot again.
@ag4eng my 6 sp ZF has been holding up really well. Just needed a TSB performed a couple of years ago that reprogrammed the TCU and I haven't had any problems since.
super pumped. Saw this at LA Auto show. The exterior looks great in person. We weren't able to check out the inside though. Love the new TrailSport trim.
@Honda, glad to see you brought back the boxy styling of the second generation of the Pilot. I’ve owned the first two generations and was very turned off by the third generation’s design choices. I look forward to purchasing this new Pilot in 2024 when all the first year bugs are worked out. Thanks and keep up the great work!!!
Currently have a 2011 Pilot Touring 4WD, went with the 2nd generation as I HATE the mini van looking 3rd generation. I previously had a 2006 Ridgeline and was thinking of getting a 2021+ Ridgeline with the facelift in Black Edition, but now that the 2023 Pilot is officially here, it's gonna be a tough decision when it comes time to actually pick one.
Come on Honda Motor Company, you can produce an AWD ODYSSEY. Honda Motor Company replied to me in an email and said, "Adding AWD to the Odyssey will lift the vehicle to unacceptable heights" If the engineers at #HONDA CAN NOT PRODUCE An AWD ODYSSEY WITHOUT LIFTING THE BODY HEIGHT, YOU NEED TO STUDY THE TOYOTA SIENNA AWD!!!!!
I think a possible option that other manufacturers are doing, is adding a rear electric motor to power the rear wheels. It avoids needing a driveshaft running to the rear, which adds height to the vehicle.
Was ready to pull the trigger on a Nissan Pathfinder Rockcreek and now I need to really take a comparison look with the Pilot Trailsport. I think these models are the two major competitors for the suburban family that vacations off the beaten path.
The new pathfinder looks good. I would avoid Jeeps unless you want to pump money into a wrangler. Honestly, though, this Pilot might be a great alternative to the pathfinder or forester/outback.
@@minrathejunglist pathfinder does look good but after the whole Jatco transmission stuff i don’t trust anything Nissan anymore unless it has a manual transmission.
A tiny bit more clearance would be nice, for better or worse, people who are going to use for "soft roading" look at ground clearance as one of the very first stats they check, and both the subaru wilderness and jeep trailhawk models that are this vehicles prime competition have much better numbers. A lot of people are just plain going to write this off because of that, which is unfortunate because all the other off-road elements are clearly carefully chosen, and the large interior makes this really appealing as a potential camping/minivanlife vehicle . Even another half-inch of clearance would help and put this closer to at least the substu base trims
That's what confuses me, with all these engineers claiming to have an off-roading background, the fact that they don't add a low gear option baffles me
@@myetoob23 not so sure low range is needed where this is designed to go. Also, engineers design within the parameters and budget given to them. They rarely get to do whatever they want.
Trailsport is nice. Looking forward to the Pilot Phev with a battery that can produce 40-45 miles on ev mode! Also with stage2 wire. This will be first in the segment but is needed
I am a Honda lover. I used to Own a Pre used Honda CRV. After 2009 they stopped the Honda CRV and Honda accord. I was disappointing with Honda because, they never brought the new models of Honda CRdiaV and Accord, currently we are only get the Honda City and Honda WRV (Specific to only India) I request HMSI to bring the new updated models of CRV and Accord to Indian market
yeah great..but do these new models make any flippin HEAT in the winter? We just bought a 2017 Honda pilot Touring in August....Doesn't make much heat for Canadian winters. We watched TONS of review videos, even "long-term" reviews, and did all the typical research. Not once did we hear or read anything about these not making enough HEAT to keep the cabin and therefore the passengers warm in a typical Canadian winter (or anywhere else where it gets actually COLD!!). I started to research "Honda Pilot No Heat" and sure enough I found a few forums and articles that talk about not only Pilots but CR-V's and even civics and more that don't make enough heat. My wife is pregnant and this was a disappointing thing to discover about a vehicle we otherwise have loved. Once the weather got cold for the first time is the only way we discovered it. It does make heat, but even at full blast on high, when its colder than -10c its not enough to keep your toes warm! The cabin is, let's say, "uncomfortable" when it's been -20 or worse. I took it to the dealership and nothing wrong with it and yep the service manager with 25 years experience said yes, its a KNOWN PROBLEM...well, we didn't know about it cause if we did we wouldn't have got it. It's so bad and the engine is so efficient it produces so little heat that at red lights when the engine is only idling, the air blows COLD (nothing to do with the a/c) this is with the heat on HIGH on ANY Fan setting. THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM. You can find articles from Canadian news papers where people complained about this to Honda Canada, or to their dealerships and nothing was done so they went to the media. The reporters got answers from Honda like "People should drive less when its cold" or "Try stopping less". There is NO solution to this issue people! Keep that in mind!
I have seen a lot of Hondas accidentally rear ending cars recently. This definitely isn’t Hondas fault, but maybe you could install an emergency braking system?
The Honda Pilot Trailsport is a Pilot dressed in off-road clothes. It's wearing a flannel like the engineers that built it, if you will. At the end of the day, it's not anything more than what Subaru offers in their "off-road" packages for their cars For the Honda fans who like to camp, this is awesome! Mostly because Honda didn't really have anything in this segment before. But I warn anyone thinking it can do any kind of technical off-roading, it's not made for that. It's missing key mechanical aspects that would never happen in a Honda Pilot. But we will see what it can do when people start buying them up, which I'm sure many will! Nice job, Honda!
"In the TrailSport, we've gone out and made the Pilot look like the better design we trashed a few years ago. It doesn't look too much like a potato anymore."
This is actually perfect for us. We will be trading in an older Volvo XC 90 for this. Volvo get too expensive. I’m not spending $65,000 for one of those anymore. I’m just not I can get this for 50
So it’s skid plates, a tow hook, an active differential and software tweaks for the camera? Seems a bit underwhelming. Not a threat to a TRD 4Runner anytime soon.
And all of this is almost useless if Honda can't pass the Moose test on snow...... If they will consistently create AWD or 4WD models that pass the Moose test then they will have my money. Great effort team Honda but I am waiting for more :)
@@ThirdBrainLives It's OK Bob, when you can speak 2 other languages fluently other than English, then I'll invite you to drink a coffee. My treat :) Let's stick to the subject of the video Bob, shall we ? Hugs and kisses Bob.
That’s good to hear no mark up. Still about $60k if dealers are selling at $53k MSRP, $1,000 delivery/dealer prep fee and the tax and license. Although that is actually less than it’s competitors. Getting a lightly used/deprecated one for about $39k would be a great deal.
you guys need a hybrid version or significantly better mpg 19mpg in the city is garbage and it'll likely get worse than that based on all my previous honda/acura vehicles
Ay truthfully. The on road guy needs to keep his mouth shut. Honda needs to develop a real 4Runner competitor. Having a capable off road beast with the reliability of that 3.5 would be a real winner.
why the hell can you have in INT in any color as long as its black! and worse why is the trailsport only available in black leather? In sunny hot texas that is a TERRIBLE combination. No Sale becuase of lack of choice- Your TQM people are costing you sales
I have a 2005 Pilot and it's been bulletproof and the most rugged looking model. Didn't care for the last 2 problematic generations, but I think Honda finally got it together and made a great Pilot again.
Yes, they made their own transmission and no ZF anymore. It’s going to be good.
@ag4eng my 6 sp ZF has been holding up really well. Just needed a TSB performed a couple of years ago that reprogrammed the TCU and I haven't had any problems since.
I have a 2008 that I bought used. What I like about the 2023 model is they went back to rugged look.
@@frankcoates4639 Yes exactly. Hopefully the reliability and quality is back too
Trailsport package on an Elite would be nice.
super pumped. Saw this at LA Auto show. The exterior looks great in person. We weren't able to check out the inside though. Love the new TrailSport trim.
Can't wait to get these to our dealership for our customers! (Maybe even myself)
Honda my best company
Awesome job Honda! Keep it up!
@Honda, glad to see you brought back the boxy styling of the second generation of the Pilot. I’ve owned the first two generations and was very turned off by the third generation’s design choices. I look forward to purchasing this new Pilot in 2024 when all the first year bugs are worked out. Thanks and keep up the great work!!!
Currently have a 2011 Pilot Touring 4WD, went with the 2nd generation as I HATE the mini van looking 3rd generation. I previously had a 2006 Ridgeline and was thinking of getting a 2021+ Ridgeline with the facelift in Black Edition, but now that the 2023 Pilot is officially here, it's gonna be a tough decision when it comes time to actually pick one.
Wow fantastic. Nice . Loves. I like it. Honda forever
I am still dreaming of an AWD option on the Odyssey!! @HONDA
Come on Honda Motor Company, you can produce an AWD ODYSSEY. Honda Motor Company replied to me in an email and said, "Adding AWD to the Odyssey will lift the vehicle to unacceptable heights" If the engineers at #HONDA CAN NOT PRODUCE An AWD ODYSSEY WITHOUT LIFTING THE BODY HEIGHT, YOU NEED TO STUDY THE TOYOTA SIENNA AWD!!!!!
I think a possible option that other manufacturers are doing, is adding a rear electric motor to power the rear wheels. It avoids needing a driveshaft running to the rear, which adds height to the vehicle.
i have a 2007 pilot run like a new love this car
i like the new redesign on new cars from honda!
Beautiful facelift,we like tough car 😍🔥
Trailsport Ridgeline !!! That’s what we want!
Hoping to see this style for the 2024 Passport
Anyone see what the roof rack load is? Wanting to see if it could hold a roof top tent.
Was ready to pull the trigger on a Nissan Pathfinder Rockcreek and now I need to really take a comparison look with the Pilot Trailsport. I think these models are the two major competitors for the suburban family that vacations off the beaten path.
Sounds like a pilot or jeep grand Cherokee L are probably some good options over the pathfinder.
A Nissan? You were going to buy a Nissan?
The new pathfinder looks good. I would avoid Jeeps unless you want to pump money into a wrangler. Honestly, though, this Pilot might be a great alternative to the pathfinder or forester/outback.
@@minrathejunglist pathfinder does look good but after the whole Jatco transmission stuff i don’t trust anything Nissan anymore unless it has a manual transmission.
Trust me! Don't go with the Nissan, the Honda is way more quality then a Nissan can ever be.
I really love hondas new boxy muscular design
Me wants!!!
Glad you finally offer nice exterior colors, the 50 shades of grey was getting old.
I liked
HONDA YES
Why is the front ground clearance the same as other pilot trims for trailsport? It would have been good if the design was slightly elevated
Great vehicle. Hope Hybrid or PHEV option will be available as well.
カッコイイじゃん！😁👍✨
走破性能も本物だ！
Is this vehicle coming to India??
They say the engine is “redesigned” does it finally have a timing chain like the odyssey?
Will they sell them in Europe?
Why I can't get ventilated seat on TrailSport Trim. So stupid !
Damn, this or the sequoia
Skidplate! Wow. Technology? My 1980 Toyota Hilix had a skidplate. Next...
A tiny bit more clearance would be nice, for better or worse, people who are going to use for "soft roading" look at ground clearance as one of the very first stats they check, and both the subaru wilderness and jeep trailhawk models that are this vehicles prime competition have much better numbers. A lot of people are just plain going to write this off because of that, which is unfortunate because all the other off-road elements are clearly carefully chosen, and the large interior makes this really appealing as a potential camping/minivanlife vehicle . Even another half-inch of clearance would help and put this closer to at least the substu base trims
Excited to see this new Honda Pilot in person at a dealer now that Highlander doesn’t have a V6. Honda upped their game while Toyota dropped the ball.
Honda needs to add a low-range option. I'm not sure how this one performs on steep ascents, but on previous models the transmission will overheat.
First gear on the 10 speeds is very short.
That's what confuses me, with all these engineers claiming to have an off-roading background, the fact that they don't add a low gear option baffles me
@@myetoob23 not so sure low range is needed where this is designed to go. Also, engineers design within the parameters and budget given to them. They rarely get to do whatever they want.
Trailsport is nice. Looking forward to the Pilot Phev with a battery that can produce 40-45 miles on ev mode! Also with stage2 wire. This will be first in the segment but is needed
Well just learned 24' Mazda CX90 has a plug 323hp 369tq and 35miles of range. All estimated numbers
I am a Honda lover. I used to Own a Pre used Honda CRV. After 2009 they stopped the Honda CRV and Honda accord. I was disappointing with Honda because, they never brought the new models of Honda CRdiaV and Accord, currently we are only get the Honda City and Honda WRV (Specific to only India) I request HMSI to bring the new updated models of CRV and Accord to Indian market
Pls launch honda city 3rd generation again in india
yeah great..but do these new models make any flippin HEAT in the winter? We just bought a 2017 Honda pilot Touring in August....Doesn't make much heat for Canadian winters. We watched TONS of review videos, even "long-term" reviews, and did all the typical research. Not once did we hear or read anything about these not making enough HEAT to keep the cabin and therefore the passengers warm in a typical Canadian winter (or anywhere else where it gets actually COLD!!). I started to research "Honda Pilot No Heat" and sure enough I found a few forums and articles that talk about not only Pilots but CR-V's and even civics and more that don't make enough heat. My wife is pregnant and this was a disappointing thing to discover about a vehicle we otherwise have loved. Once the weather got cold for the first time is the only way we discovered it. It does make heat, but even at full blast on high, when its colder than -10c its not enough to keep your toes warm! The cabin is, let's say, "uncomfortable" when it's been -20 or worse. I took it to the dealership and nothing wrong with it and yep the service manager with 25 years experience said yes, its a KNOWN PROBLEM...well, we didn't know about it cause if we did we wouldn't have got it. It's so bad and the engine is so efficient it produces so little heat that at red lights when the engine is only idling, the air blows COLD (nothing to do with the a/c) this is with the heat on HIGH on ANY Fan setting. THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM. You can find articles from Canadian news papers where people complained about this to Honda Canada, or to their dealerships and nothing was done so they went to the media. The reporters got answers from Honda like "People should drive less when its cold" or "Try stopping less". There is NO solution to this issue people! Keep that in mind!
Please make the pilot and Ridgeline hybrid I think people want to have the option to save money with this gas prices
I have seen a lot of Hondas accidentally rear ending cars recently. This definitely isn’t Hondas fault, but maybe you could install an emergency braking system?
Those systems suck, learn to drive. Pay attention.
God it looks amazing the sporty look and the color with the black rims looks beautiful give me one for free lol
The Honda Pilot Trailsport is a Pilot dressed in off-road clothes. It's wearing a flannel like the engineers that built it, if you will.
At the end of the day, it's not anything more than what Subaru offers in their "off-road" packages for their cars
For the Honda fans who like to camp, this is awesome! Mostly because Honda didn't really have anything in this segment before.
But I warn anyone thinking it can do any kind of technical off-roading, it's not made for that. It's missing key mechanical aspects that would never happen in a Honda Pilot.
But we will see what it can do when people start buying them up, which I'm sure many will! Nice job, Honda!
Better put a plate hiding the cat
"In the TrailSport, we've gone out and made the Pilot look like the better design we trashed a few years ago. It doesn't look too much like a potato anymore."
Will there be a 2023 Pilot based PASSPORT?
Obviously.
This is actually perfect for us. We will be trading in an older Volvo XC 90 for this. Volvo get too expensive. I’m not spending $65,000 for one of those anymore. I’m just not I can get this for 50
Volvo is junk! Seriously
So it’s skid plates, a tow hook, an active differential and software tweaks for the camera? Seems a bit underwhelming. Not a threat to a TRD 4Runner anytime soon.
And all of this is almost useless if Honda can't pass the Moose test on snow......
If they will consistently create AWD or 4WD models that pass the Moose test then they will have my money.
Great effort team Honda but I am waiting for more :)
Looks like you never passed multiple spelling tests.
@@ThirdBrainLives what did he spell wrong? And why are you being a bully to people on here?
@@minrathejunglist Thank you Minra for having my back 🤗. I misspelled Moose. Now I've corrected it. English is not my main language :)))
@@ThirdBrainLives
It's OK Bob, when you can speak 2 other languages fluently other than English, then I'll invite you to drink a coffee. My treat :)
Let's stick to the subject of the video Bob, shall we ? Hugs and kisses Bob.
What is a “Moose test”?
Wouldn’t it be great if you would just reissue the element the way it was.
$50k plus those dealer mark ups of $10k. Nice SUV with some off road capabilities but $67k OTD is a lot to pay for a Honda Pilot.
I just test drove at a dealership - no markup.
That’s good to hear no mark up. Still about $60k if dealers are selling at $53k MSRP, $1,000 delivery/dealer prep fee and the tax and license. Although that is actually less than it’s competitors. Getting a lightly used/deprecated one for about $39k would be a great deal.
you guys need a hybrid version or significantly better mpg
19mpg in the city is garbage and it'll likely get worse than that based on all my previous honda/acura vehicles
Ay truthfully. The on road guy needs to keep his mouth shut. Honda needs to develop a real 4Runner competitor. Having a capable off road beast with the reliability of that 3.5 would be a real winner.
So then . They did NOTHING to add strength to the frame / body ??!
What's the use it will only get stolen from you.
off road oriented trim yet the front bumper is still low AF lol
why the hell can you have in INT in any color as long as its black! and worse why is the trailsport only available in black leather? In sunny hot texas that is a TERRIBLE combination. No Sale becuase of lack of choice- Your TQM people are costing you sales
Why it looks like a Ford Explorer 😓
Looks like 2019 Ford explorer..
It's a piece of garbage
Just like your channel.
Just like you
This looks like a Ford explorer 2019. Did they started copying Ford.