I bought a small vise at Harbor Freight for about $25 I think. It works perfectly. I also mounted mine on the corner of my desk. It makes jobs like this a breeze.👍Great channel.
Thanks for the valuable info .Great for common sense but practical advice . The torque wrench is a grief relief . Always checking out your latest work keeps me motivated and excited about the outdoors.
Proper scope mounting comes from a solid base... What ever you choose. You need to degrease screw holes AND SCREWS! You also NEED thread locker! DO NOT ASSUME FACTORY MOUNTED YOURS CORRECTLY!! Then when mounting your rjngs in a Weaver or PIC base. You MUST push rings FORWARD before snugging them down!!! If you dont you will find a wandering elevation problem. Thread locker is not advised on rings. As mentioned many times. You also need to check clearances of the bolt and operation and then adjust eye relief.
I really enjoy your videos. Particularly how you are genuine and you take us along the journey with you. As my eyeballs have aged and scopes have possibly changed …and I’ve bought things that kick more…I definitely have to deal with getting the eye relief set early on in this process and then level and torque. I don’t like those things hitting my eyebrow anymore. Again, thank you and I hope you keep being successful at working diligently.
The last scope I put on I did it in my lap lol, just eye balled that the crosshairs were straight by looking through it and torqued it down, the rifle has been shooting great.
I use a similar technique, however, I verify the reticle is vertical with a plumb line just in case it isn't perfectly alighted with the elevation knob.
As said you need to check eye relief. But degreasing your base, screws and screw holes, rings and scope tube are a must. Bore sighting before you go to the range is also a good idea. The remark of " it doesn't have to be perfect " is true, but I try to insure that its as close to it as humanly possible.
I have the same exact scope on my 17 hmr. The Hawke 4x12x40mm scope. Fixing buy the 22 mag model. To put on my 22 mag. I just ordered a Leupold VX6 HD 4x24x52mm TMOA scope. To go on my new Browning 280AI rifle.
I like my fixit sticks..correct torque is evenly torqued screws..So the mechanical forces are consistent and the stability of the design works the way it should..My high recoil platforms demand it.
I mount my scopes identically to your work. I’m a hair more anal in that I use a feeler gauge to get the gap even on the rings. Not over the top but I did get a raised eyebrow by a buddy of mine. Keep those videos coming, cheers.
Thread locker on the ring cap screws can cause a false torque reading and possibly damage your scope. Only ever use blue locktite when installing the scope rail
@chrissewell1608 multiple scope manufacturers state this. You're lubricating the threads and very easy to over torque. When you're dealing in small units like inch pounds and very tight tolerances inside the scope tube it's easy to damage the erector assembly. I'm very surprised you don't know this
I mounted my vise on an old overhead projector stand; one of the heavy ones. I keep all my cleaning stuff on it. When mounting a scope, I roll it to where I can see out the backdoor. I hang a plumb bob at 25 yards and put a target at the same distance. I use the plumbbob string to level the scope and bore sight the scope at the same time.
Those Fat sticks are cool. But, I picked up a Wheeler Fat Wrench several years ago, on sale. I like Fat Wrench, and have only needed it several times. They are on sale periodically as low as $40 - $45.00!
You planning to let us know what you think of that Blackhound or did I miss a video? Youre correct, Blackhound scopes come with everything needed to do a reasonable mounting job. I picked up their Genesis 1-6x24 for a hreat price at an outdoor show back in February. For the money its got a really clear and bright looking picture through it and all the controls feel good. I'll very likely get another Blackhound at some point. If you haven't yet, check out Maven optics too.
Thats an important step, for me! Otherwise I am having to stretch my neck back and forth to see through the scope properly. When done properly, all you have to do is tilt your head on to the check riser, and you have a clear view. 🤪
... I use level bubbles but I don't bother with lapping or those "pointy nose to pointy nose" centralizers ... eyeballing it is good enuf for MOD hunting accuracy ... I'm no bench rest shooter ... my mounting base & scope ring screws are tightened to "nice & snug" inch pounds ... haven't popped a screw or bent a scope tube yet from "armstronging" wrenches ... you missed setting up your eye relief but I assumed you did that
If i bought a lot of rifle's and scopes probably but no more than I've ever had to put a scope on i just can't justify buying a torque screwdriver even though they are pretty inexpensive. I always have used an allen wrench with lock tight but I'm always careful not to over tighten , never had a problem over the years with any I've done.
... like everything else it's common sense and moderation ... if you tighten screws until the veins are popping out on your neck the screws are gonna break ... a broke off embedded screw is a royal PITA
Relative beginner, still learning before I buy - wondering if there's such a thing as a reliable scope that has software where you can enter the brand/type/caliber/b.a.c./bullet weight/weather/barometer/humidity/barrel length/barrel twist rate/ft above sea level, etc, etc, and have the scope take care of all things vertical when it's told (or when it detects) some or all of this data. I see how accurate the estimations are, and there's repetition. Wherever I see repetition, as a software dude, I see potential software. I understand why something like this would be more likely in a military type of scope, but the more I think about it, that's not a lot of processing. If a virtual reticle can manage the para-whatever it is (when you're looking at a slight angle thru the scope) like a real one, what about allowing the scope to automatically turn the elevation dial to what it predicts the drop would be? Has this been done in an affordable scope before? You could even have a locator in the scope that identifies things for you, like ft above sea level, barometric pressure, even make API calls to determine anything it doesn't already need to know - hell, even identify the age/type/gender of animal in your scope, whether or not it's in season, etc. If it was a UA-cam scope, you'd probably get set for your shot & have a commercial play just before you fire....
I had a youtube channel under a different name, luckily I saved ALL of my videos on external hard drives before I loaded them up. On a brighter day in the future I will re-upload all of them on multiple platforms.
How do you address the issue of scope role? I can't seem to keep my scopes from rolling a tad in my rings, even when using that pattern when tightening.
I bought a scope mounting kit a few months back and am so glad I did. I had pretty much always mounted my own scopes but until I started using the Fat Wrench I didn't realize just how much I'd been overtightening everything. I've recently mounted a couple of sets of rings that I didn't bother lapping as the points on my alignment bars were nearly touching right from the box. Oddly enough, they were both the same brand and probably the least expensive mounts I've used so far.
@@WHOTEEWHOyou might be surprised how far off some of these rings can be though, and from brands you'd probably expect better from. All in all good stuff though, as usual. I enjoy your videos. Its great seeing a good ol boy thats genuine and not taking things too seriously.
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Before tightening the scope rings to the scope you should look through the scope and find the correct eye relief.
For anyone serious about accuracy, proper scope mounting is a must.
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Thanks, captain obvious. I'm sure no one would've been able to figure that out without you.
@@muhammadfaez2035 I think I replied to the wrong comment lol.
I bought a small vise at Harbor Freight for about $25 I think. It works perfectly. I also mounted mine on the corner of my desk. It makes jobs like this a breeze.👍Great channel.
Awsome video i always move scope to front or back just for your personal eye relief. Keep up the great work. YOU ROCK!!!!
You rock
Thanks for the valuable info .Great for common sense but practical advice . The torque wrench is a grief relief . Always checking out your latest work keeps me motivated and excited about the outdoors.
WTW, I thought I was one of the only people that used electrical tape for a bandaid. You go dude.... pure country..
Yee yee!
Proper scope mounting comes from a solid base...
What ever you choose. You need to degrease screw holes AND SCREWS!
You also NEED thread locker!
DO NOT ASSUME FACTORY MOUNTED YOURS CORRECTLY!!
Then when mounting your rjngs in a Weaver or PIC base. You MUST push rings FORWARD before snugging them down!!!
If you dont you will find a wandering elevation problem.
Thread locker is not advised on rings.
As mentioned many times. You also need to check clearances of the bolt and operation and then adjust eye relief.
That is a great demo, you said it perfectly and simply stated, for anybody to do it by themselves and do a great job in the process.
I really enjoy your videos. Particularly how you are genuine and you take us along the journey with you. As my eyeballs have aged and scopes have possibly changed …and I’ve bought things that kick more…I definitely have to deal with getting the eye relief set early on in this process and then level and torque. I don’t like those things hitting my eyebrow anymore. Again, thank you and I hope you keep being successful at working diligently.
Very helpful video. Excellent, detailed instructions. Thanks!
Thanks for watching
Great vid explaining the importance of this
The last scope I put on I did it in my lap lol, just eye balled that the crosshairs were straight by looking through it and torqued it down, the rifle has been shooting great.
Awesome
I use a similar technique, however, I verify the reticle is vertical with a plumb line just in case it isn't perfectly alighted with the elevation knob.
Good point, I've done that before but only because I didn't use a level.
Do a camo painting video on one of these rim fire rifles
As said you need to check eye relief. But degreasing your base, screws and screw holes, rings and scope tube are a must. Bore sighting before you go to the range is also a good idea. The remark of " it doesn't have to be perfect " is true, but I try to insure that its as close to it as humanly possible.
I have the same exact scope on my 17 hmr. The Hawke 4x12x40mm scope. Fixing buy the 22 mag model. To put on my 22 mag. I just ordered a Leupold VX6 HD 4x24x52mm TMOA scope. To go on my new Browning 280AI rifle.
Nice
I don't comment much , but love your videos and haven't missed one yet ..
Appreciate you watching
I need that vise in my life
I like my fixit sticks..correct torque is evenly torqued screws..So the mechanical forces are consistent and the stability of the design works the way it should..My high recoil platforms demand it.
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Can hardly wait to see this thing in action...LIVE ACTION!🫡
Thank you!!rhat was interesting and fun to watch!!thumbs up!!
Many thanks
Great to know! 😊
I mount my scopes identically to your work. I’m a hair more anal in that I use a feeler gauge to get the gap even on the rings. Not over the top but I did get a raised eyebrow by a buddy of mine. Keep those videos coming, cheers.
Thanks for watching
That was excellent WTW, it looks fairly easy. So you don't use any thread locker on the screws?
I do not use thread locker, no
Thread locker on the ring cap screws can cause a false torque reading and possibly damage your scope. Only ever use blue locktite when installing the scope rail
@@eggbert191I have never heard that it throws of any torque settings. And even if it did, it can't be enough to hurt anything.
@chrissewell1608 multiple scope manufacturers state this. You're lubricating the threads and very easy to over torque. When you're dealing in small units like inch pounds and very tight tolerances inside the scope tube it's easy to damage the erector assembly. I'm very surprised you don't know this
@@eggbert191 Thanks!
Looking forward to more content like this!
Thanks for watching
I mounted my vise on an old overhead projector stand; one of the heavy ones. I keep all my cleaning stuff on it.
When mounting a scope, I roll it to where I can see out the backdoor. I hang a plumb bob at 25 yards and put a target at the same distance. I use the plumbbob string to level the scope and bore sight the scope at the same time.
You don’t check eye relief at the lowest and highest magnification?
Nope not really.
Thanks for all your informative videos. God Bless you WTW!!
Thanks for watching
I have the wheeler set love it
Awesome
Thanks for the wrench info
Scopes are very essential
Those Fat sticks are cool. But, I picked up a Wheeler Fat Wrench several years ago, on sale. I like Fat Wrench, and have only needed it several times. They are on sale periodically as low as $40 - $45.00!
You planning to let us know what you think of that Blackhound or did I miss a video? Youre correct, Blackhound scopes come with everything needed to do a reasonable mounting job. I picked up their Genesis 1-6x24 for a hreat price at an outdoor show back in February. For the money its got a really clear and bright looking picture through it and all the controls feel good. I'll very likely get another Blackhound at some point. If you haven't yet, check out Maven optics too.
I already have many videos on Blackhound, but yes that was literally last night's video taking this one to the range.
@@WHOTEEWHO I'll definitely go back and look through your videos, not sure how I missed last night's video.
Good information thank you for sharing
good how to video!
Do you not check eye relief?
Thats an important step, for me! Otherwise I am having to stretch my neck back and forth to see through the scope properly. When done properly, all you have to do is tilt your head on to the check riser, and you have a clear view. 🤪
Thanks for the info.
That's a nice sheep!
We want to see the walmart simmons scope ring review. I see the shelves at walmart are almost empty in the scope ring section.
that was helpful.
... I use level bubbles but I don't bother with lapping or those "pointy nose to pointy nose" centralizers ... eyeballing it is good enuf for MOD hunting accuracy ... I'm no bench rest shooter ... my mounting base & scope ring screws are tightened to "nice & snug" inch pounds ... haven't popped a screw or bent a scope tube yet from "armstronging" wrenches ... you missed setting up your eye relief but I assumed you did that
I've poped a few scope base screws and removing them is near impossible. A gunsmith can do it for a price.......a big price at that.
Cool video great content. You should check out that Rudolph scope that showed you at ARM4
Thanks! Will do!
Whootie, good video, but could you do a video on rifle cleaning sometime?
If i bought a lot of rifle's and scopes probably but no more than I've ever had to put a scope on i just can't justify buying a torque screwdriver even though they are pretty inexpensive. I always have used an allen wrench with lock tight but I'm always careful not to over tighten , never had a problem over the years with any I've done.
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... like everything else it's common sense and moderation ... if you tighten screws until the veins are popping out on your neck the screws are gonna break ... a broke off embedded screw is a royal PITA
Did you set the eye relief
He thinks that is highly overrated
❤ the ichthys tatoo
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Need to mount those mounts 🤣
Relative beginner, still learning before I buy - wondering if there's such a thing as a reliable scope that has software where you can enter the brand/type/caliber/b.a.c./bullet weight/weather/barometer/humidity/barrel length/barrel twist rate/ft above sea level, etc, etc, and have the scope take care of all things vertical when it's told (or when it detects) some or all of this data. I see how accurate the estimations are, and there's repetition. Wherever I see repetition, as a software dude, I see potential software.
I understand why something like this would be more likely in a military type of scope, but the more I think about it, that's not a lot of processing. If a virtual reticle can manage the para-whatever it is (when you're looking at a slight angle thru the scope) like a real one, what about allowing the scope to automatically turn the elevation dial to what it predicts the drop would be? Has this been done in an affordable scope before? You could even have a locator in the scope that identifies things for you, like ft above sea level, barometric pressure, even make API calls to determine anything it doesn't already need to know - hell, even identify the age/type/gender of animal in your scope, whether or not it's in season, etc.
If it was a UA-cam scope, you'd probably get set for your shot & have a commercial play just before you fire....
Yes. Burris has scopes that do that
@@WHOTEEWHO Thank you kindly!
? Check for eye relief before locking down; where’s the loc-tite?
Have you gotten your hands on the new arken 7-35x yet? love to hear your take on it.
Not yet. Trying to
I see a strat back there…might be time to show us your strang twangs! 😎👍
I actually have quite a few music videos up
Fun video ✌️✌️
What is that gun?
Nice way to mount a scope.
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It's overkill but try a 4" ebay mechineist level sometime. It's 50x the accuracy of regular levels.
Adam: How did you know you had proper eye relief before installing scope in the rings?
I always put the scope at about the same spot in relation to the action
Nice vice
@@brucelewis1017 👍👍
What's your opinion between Black Hound vs. Arken?
My choice is Arken.
Arken is my pick
I know hickok45 still having problems he put up a video the other day
I had a youtube channel under a different name, luckily I saved ALL of my videos on external hard drives before I loaded them up. On a brighter day in the future I will re-upload all of them on multiple platforms.
What! No ring reamer?
No lock nut?
How do you address the issue of scope role? I can't seem to keep my scopes from rolling a tad in my rings, even when using that pattern when tightening.
Just keep an eye on the level I guess 🤷♂️. Do a little at a time
Do you ever use a drop of blue loc-tite on those screws?
Used to. I have found it to be unnecessary. Haven't used it in forever
@WHOTEEWHO just glad your hand is doing better
I have to ask with the drive me not wanting to know. Why do you have that black tape on your finger?
@@lewiscollins2670 cut it real bad. Tape holding on the band-aid
Lapping the scope to the Rings is a must , What happened ?
Nah. I have never lapped rings in my life. Not necessary with today's machining. That was an old timey thing
I bought a scope mounting kit a few months back and am so glad I did.
I had pretty much always mounted my own scopes but until I started using the Fat Wrench I didn't realize just how much I'd been overtightening everything. I've recently mounted a couple of sets of rings that I didn't bother lapping as the points on my alignment bars were nearly touching right from the box. Oddly enough, they were both the same brand and probably the least expensive mounts I've used so far.
@@WHOTEEWHOyou might be surprised how far off some of these rings can be though, and from brands you'd probably expect better from.
All in all good stuff though, as usual. I enjoy your videos. Its great seeing a good ol boy thats genuine and not taking things too seriously.
You don't level it also up down?
If it is level left and right then it is also level up and down
Bro
Comment and get down to it!
Blue lock tight so the screws can't back out
I never use loctite. I used to. Have found it unnecessary
@@WHOTEEWHO I use a drop on everything, may not be necessary but I've never had a screw back out.
@@deadwright534gives false torque reading and can cause damage to your scope tube
Lock tite is not recomended in your rings.
As Adam says proper torque is your best friend here.
But LOCK TITE THE BASE to the firearms!!
Looks like the thumb is healthier
Better every day
I use my smart phone as a level because it is much more accurate.
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Is there a better social Media group than Facebook let me know which one you on I will switch I am hearing a bunch of bull about Facebook
All are trash in my opinion
Duct tape. Bam! Takes 10 seconds
Boom
Where you at Old Man
Fell asleep
@@WHOTEEWHO You needed it
Don't use the goodentight tork setting
Nope!
I lost the ability to type in chat or comments which is why I sent emoji that usually not available !???🤣
HOW COME YOU NEVER USE IT? you NEED A TROPHY ROOM!
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Level your optic? Is your vice level? Is your weapon a perfect X,Y in your vice? Come on man!
Only needs to be set parallel to barrel. Other plane not as important.
Leveling the vice is irrelevant.
@@WHOTEEWHO Is your home level. Concrete level? Table level? Vice Level. Weapon level? You are the one that put a level on your scope.
@@WHOTEEWHO That was my point. That putting a level on your scope is also irrelevant.
@@stevemott7052 Use a laser. Do what you want.
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Very nice instructional video! If they end up being okay with this one, maybe you could do more instructional videos!🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲
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12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
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How are you going to cope w u-tube new rules?
Doesn't affect me
You tube is getting ridiculous.
Sorry Who Tee Who, I missed the live tonight. Wife's honey do list. 😂😂😂
I missed it too! Fell asleep