I Bought a USED 220 Swift - Is the Barrel Shot Out???

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  • I have been looking for a 220 Swift FOREVER and finally found one. I took a risk on an older, used one. First trip to the range to see if I can get it to group.
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  • @WHOTEEWHO
    @WHOTEEWHO  2 місяці тому +29

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    • @benjaminbigman
      @benjaminbigman 2 місяці тому

      I wanna know what the drop chart to a 7mmprc ELD match 180 grain I shoot a Mossberg patriot just like you and I’m curious what your drop chart for your cartridge would be?.

    • @kiyoshilengyel4747
      @kiyoshilengyel4747 2 місяці тому +2

      ..burnd out barrel 🤪
      🍻🇸🇪

    • @geraldbatts575
      @geraldbatts575 2 місяці тому

      The bottom of that rest is made for a bag of shot or a sand bag. Would make it more stable.

    • @Rundu1987
      @Rundu1987 2 місяці тому

      I dont think you Yanks realise how blessed you are with amazing manufacturers like Arken and Remington all made right on your doorstep. Enjoy!

  • @donaldcope4982
    @donaldcope4982 2 місяці тому +59

    I love how you don't edit out mistakes... No other UA-camrs do that!
    Really makes you human and count- upon!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  2 місяці тому +4

      Appreciate you watching. I screw up all the time 🤣

    • @Russ1tonram
      @Russ1tonram 2 місяці тому +2

      But you show us instead of cutting it out when you edit. Thank you for all you do. ​@@WHOTEEWHO

    • @FeckArseIndustries
      @FeckArseIndustries 2 місяці тому

      Shooters integrity 😊

    • @parshafarahi172
      @parshafarahi172 2 місяці тому

      Exactly ❤

    • @pepepepito623
      @pepepepito623 2 місяці тому

      Burnt out? I bet you onw a bore' scope...

  • @MrTurkeyshoot
    @MrTurkeyshoot 2 місяці тому +83

    The 220 Swift is a semi rimmed cartridge. You could be having rim lock causing your feeding problems from the magazine . Make sure when you load a cartridge the rim is in front of the rim of the one below it. Just like you would load a .303 British magazine.

    • @joelheigley5817
      @joelheigley5817 2 місяці тому +9

      Correct. I have the same gun in the swift. Must stack in the magazine correctly. Mine touches holes with 55gr hornady v-max factory ammo at 100yds.

    • @mduckworth8553
      @mduckworth8553 2 місяці тому +1

      I remember a friend had 1 of these in the early 90s. It had to be loaded a certain way according to remington.

    • @JiggyjarjardoM77
      @JiggyjarjardoM77 2 місяці тому +1

      I have an old 30 40 that needs to be loaded with the rims in order

    • @daveenriquez7790
      @daveenriquez7790 2 місяці тому +1

      Those ARKEN scopes always get me, dialing up the "ZOOMIES" is backwards to all my other scopes. For factory ammo, that 220 Swift is not bad at all. I bet you reloading that cartridge will give you way more consistency and way smaller groups!

    • @flyingsciguy1719
      @flyingsciguy1719 2 місяці тому +1

      Yep, my topload swift in a Remington has got to be done the right way or trouble!

  • @geoffkeahey2651
    @geoffkeahey2651 2 місяці тому +25

    Always been a fan or the swift. Bought my first in 82. Finding factory loads was tough in those days, but I was able to find a bunch of brass and loaded them at home. Didn't know a thing about barrel heating and had the bore shot out in about a month. Took it to a gunsmith and got the barrel replaced and he told me about heating. Bought a 222 for the prairie dogs, kept the swift for coyotes and bobcats, and I'll be damned, I still have the same barrel on it 40 some years later. Have had folks try to swap me out of it. Nope, they'll put it in my casket when I go, if they can pry it out of my grandson's hands.

  • @nimrodmar10
    @nimrodmar10 2 місяці тому +18

    The 220 Swift got it's reputation as a barrel burner when it was chambered in the pre 64 Winchester Mod. 70. The barrel steel in those rifles was not even near the quality of our modern-day barrel steels. With the Remington 700 Sendero you can put thousands of rounds through it before it needs replacing, if you don't shoot it till the barrel will fry bacon :-)

    • @medical-wl9qc
      @medical-wl9qc 2 місяці тому

      My dad had one of the pre 64 models, wish i still had it

    • @marcussanchez4278
      @marcussanchez4278 2 місяці тому

      Especially since it’s stainless.

  • @johnkeisterelquattro2553
    @johnkeisterelquattro2553 2 місяці тому +12

    LOVE IT!!! Just the name of this caliber alone makes ya remember the good old days when Walmart still sold handgun and scary WEAPONS OF WAR ammo….gotta love it. And I would say your barrel is just fine! Anyone who says “I bet your barrel is burned out!!”…… has probably never ever burned out a barrel, nor will they ever.

    • @nathanlambshead4778
      @nathanlambshead4778 2 місяці тому +1

      Last time I ever entered a walmart was when they were selling out ammo. Picked up 500 rounds of Winchester Whitebox 115 grn fmj for 73 dollars. I only use 124 grn in 9x19, but could not resist the price. I have managed to do some good trading with 200 of them so far. Still have 300 ready for trading. ...and have no plans to go back into a walmart ever.

    • @johnkeisterelquattro2553
      @johnkeisterelquattro2553 2 місяці тому +1

      @@nathanlambshead4778oh yes, I really regret not buying that when I saw that. I didn’t realize it was a clearance thing, just thought prices were lowering. So I now kick myself for not buying the 200 round Winchester White packs of 5.56….. for $40 a pack 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ And the store I stopped at had a good 30 packs of that….. sigh 😂😂

  • @jeffsmart7581
    @jeffsmart7581 2 місяці тому +16

    The 220 Swift was developed from the 6mm Lee Navy which was a semi rimmed case. When you load the magazine make sure you put each case rim ahead of the other. Or use more force closing the bolt.

  • @raytribble8075
    @raytribble8075 2 місяці тому +8

    Use what scope and base you feel comfortable and confident with… I bought my pre 64 model 70 from a guy when I was (uh-hum”) 18 in 1977. I took it to Alpine gun shop in Ft. Worth Texas and had enough money to put a Weaver 3-9x40 post crosshair scope… the guy behind the counter asked me “why do you want to insult that rifle kid?” And as tempting as it was to turn my a$$ around and walk out… I bought it and it is still on that rifle. I gave it to my grandson a few years ago for Christmas and lost count of the elk, deer, antelope and all in between I took with that rifle back home in Wyoming.
    As others have mentioned… semi rimmed cases can give to feeding issues… but I have had better luck with control feed bolts. I built my .220 on a 1916 GEW Mauser action and put a Shilen 1-8 twist 416 SS loooong barrel on her, the bases you just took off yours and a Leupold 4.5-14x50mm CDS scope tuned for 75 grain Swift Scirocco bullets out to 750 yards… way farther than I need to be shooting. But… mess with your loads… I would not blame the barrel. Both the .220 and .264 Win Mag both got a bad wrap for eating barrels… metallurgical improvements along with not trying to hit warp speed makes the newer barrels last 1200 plus rounds before you have to look at significant throat erosion. I cannot remember what Remington used for a twist rate on that rifle (most are 1-14) but you should be able to run 45-63 grain bullets at fast to modest velocities on the heavier bullets. While you are still new to the gun… think about bedding that action, making sure the barrel is “really” free floating from receiver to end of stock and verify the torque on the action screws. Beautiful rifle young man and thank you for sharing.

  • @donniepowell7146
    @donniepowell7146 2 місяці тому +18

    Yep, that barrel is toast. I’ll give you the money back on it.

  • @jeffreypelletier7247
    @jeffreypelletier7247 2 місяці тому +4

    I always have mad respect for people the shoot on camera there are a lot of people the judge when they really shouldn’t specially when they’d never do it. Great content thanks!!!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  2 місяці тому

      Appreciate you watching

  • @michaelthompson7570
    @michaelthompson7570 2 місяці тому +43

    The throat will erode first,,the remington can have the barrel removed,cut an inch off the chamber end ream a new chamber and good as new…..

    • @coltoncavill3719
      @coltoncavill3719 2 місяці тому +5

      Only if it has enough shank. Witch rem factory barrel do not

    • @chuckkulick8635
      @chuckkulick8635 2 місяці тому +1

      Most sender's will shoot .5 all day so u got u 1congrats no burn out handloaders get 4200 fps with 45 g now all u need is Both 264's can't wait cause I have a 264 sendero shoots half inch with retumbo and 140 horn match

    • @cz455guru3
      @cz455guru3 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@chuckkulick8635.5 all day?

  • @Randel2024
    @Randel2024 2 місяці тому +23

    Never owned a 220 swift that performed well with factory ammo. Always had really good accuracy with 55 gr Sierra bt and IMR 4064.

    • @richardsveum8452
      @richardsveum8452 2 місяці тому +2

      Ditto, 4064 is the perfect powder for the Swift.

    • @preacherbiggin
      @preacherbiggin 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes sir. 37.1 gr 4064 with a 55gr pill is a tack driver!

    • @pauldickson1495
      @pauldickson1495 2 місяці тому

      I’d be happy with that for first time out . Cheap factory ammo and a dirty gun . I’ll bet with hand loads you’ll have your one hole . That’s part of the fun . If that shot 4 one hole groups for you today then what ??

  • @bradenstuart4074
    @bradenstuart4074 2 місяці тому +4

    Listen, I’ve followed this channel long enough that you used to dance a jig at a .70 inch group! I know you like them to clover leaf, but first time out to the range, first ammo selection, that gun is a shooter. Another great video!!

  • @cassandramangum1894
    @cassandramangum1894 2 місяці тому +3

    If your throat in your barrel is slightly worn no worries. Reload your own and seat the bullet out a few thousands to make up for the extended jump to the good portion of the lands. Just a friendly tip. Love the videos keep up the great work.

  • @jerryhammack1318
    @jerryhammack1318 2 місяці тому +3

    .220 swift was my first high power rifle. It is still my favorite caliber. The thing with it is barrel heating up. Pace your shooting. Bullets from 55 to 63 grains and most definitely handloading for that rifle barrel only! This cartridge is finicky from one rifle to the next. I own 5 currently. Have owned 17 of them . Each one is a load only for specific. Have shot thousands of rounds . Only one burned the barrel out . Also the chambers tend to be tight. Try not handling the brass with your sweaty hands. The chambers of most are not chrome lined . Rust is your worst enemy in the chambers and barrels on the .220 swift. It is not as bad as the .17 fireball but close! Love them on anything from prairie dogs to white tails ! Choose your loads carefully and you will fall in love with the .220 swift . Yes you haters I do own a . 22 - 250 as well as other hot .22 center fire customs . To each their own. Get out and enjoy your selves . P.S. as the swift gets hot it tends to string shots vertically usually within 1 to 11/2 inch . If it's moving let it cool off!❤!

    • @nathanlambshead4778
      @nathanlambshead4778 2 місяці тому

      I always found that extra high velocity calibers are always more 'finicky' than normal velocity calibers, like 308, etc. Kind of like sports cars.

  • @kadencollins5303
    @kadencollins5303 2 місяці тому +37

    Clean the barrel out really well. And try some different ammo.

    • @Manco65
      @Manco65 2 місяці тому +3

      This is what I'd also suggest I used to know an old gentleman who shot competition small bore. And Rodger used the 220 Swift but he warned that took special care and cleaning otherwise the barrel would foul uppretty good but if it's been fired a lot and abused it could have a throat erosion issue.

    • @ddhh6552
      @ddhh6552 2 місяці тому +1

      I would definitely clean that barrel really well. Backfire had an episode about a gun that lost accuracy because of shooting solid copper and regular jacketed ammo and somehow it changed the accuracy. Probably copper fouling

    • @lookythat2
      @lookythat2 2 місяці тому +1

      I'm sure everybody here knows about J-B® NON-EMBEDDING BORE CLEANING COMPOUND. I can say it certainly lets you get the best accuracy out of your firearms.

    • @nelsonm5032
      @nelsonm5032 2 місяці тому +1

      If it was mine it would be JB and Kroil time.

    • @vernonlarson7016
      @vernonlarson7016 2 місяці тому

      ​@@nelsonm5032 bore bright lapping the barrel works pretty well.

  • @outdoorsman812
    @outdoorsman812 2 місяці тому +9

    Already said a couple times but a good cleaning with some copper remover may help a lot. Super fast rounds are notorious for shedding lots of copper

    • @boriscook6817
      @boriscook6817 2 місяці тому +1

      I scanned comments to see if anyone would mention this
      I agree with you

    • @juanmacias418
      @juanmacias418 Місяць тому

      my enfield has a Really Tight barrel..... once my group opens up to 1moa, i clean it and start over....

  • @tahoe829
    @tahoe829 2 місяці тому +8

    Funny i was just looking at reloading brass for the 220 swift.
    Brass is Not easy to get and a cost for it as well. Definitely save the brass casings you just shot.
    It’s a Wonderful rifle Who T Who. I think once you dial it in with handloads and tinker around a bit, then it will drive tacks! It isnt shot out yet;) 😊 Goodluck with it WTH lookin forward to more with this blaster from the past.

    • @timparkhurst8661
      @timparkhurst8661 2 місяці тому

      At 10:55 min. he says he will save the brass. Good call.

  • @A-a-ron480
    @A-a-ron480 2 місяці тому +1

    Yes, thank you for keeping all the content, even adjusting the wong way. I blame the heat and humidity on top of that. I'm glad you made it till the end.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  2 місяці тому +1

      👍👍 appreciate you watching

  • @timlott5778
    @timlott5778 2 місяці тому +3

    I lol’d hard at the scope adjustment.
    Just to get back to where you were!
    Been there! Thanks Adam!

  • @terrylandis6831
    @terrylandis6831 2 місяці тому +4

    You'll certainly find something that is same hole when you do the ammo test. That's impressive so far. Love that trigger!

  • @JerryMarkBrinkman
    @JerryMarkBrinkman 2 місяці тому +6

    There’s nothing wrong with that barrel. Try different loads, and get used to the trigger then your groups will shrink to the .5” range with no problem. You did well on this acquisition. Jerry ‘The41Shootist’ Brinkman, Terre Haute, Indiana

  • @mattrenfroe1985
    @mattrenfroe1985 2 місяці тому +3

    Thats a core lokt group for you. Made for hunting not precision but I sure love it when they group good.

  • @mattpence5655
    @mattpence5655 2 місяці тому +2

    Oh great 😌 just spent fourteen days trying to decide what wheelgun I want to try out for a backup on the ankle thought I had it all figured out and now you had to come along with this!!! Grrrr welp back to the ol drawing board

  • @MichaelSisley-fw3xr
    @MichaelSisley-fw3xr 2 місяці тому +3

    HTH, definitely save your brass! That is always a good fall-back plan for ensuring you can feed your rifle. I shoot a lot of 9mm. I am not big on reloading all of that stuff. (on a single stage press, it is not much fun.) I did make a deal with a guy to give him 500 once fired 9mm brass for 80, 6mm Rem brass he had. 6mm Rem is pretty hard to locate, loaded. I don't fire that rifle all that much, but I do like it for my long-range coyote getter with light weight bullets. We both got what we needed from the deal.
    Now, the barrel. I am not seeing evidence of a burnt-out barrel. Here is what I have experienced over decades of working with high-speed light weight bullets. It is a handloader's world for super precision. Use Hornady's device for measuring OAL gauge that pushes a bullet forward until it touches the lands and grooves and back off .002. This can be tedious but compare the OAL of the Rem ammo to the Hdy OAL gauge measurement. Divide the differences into 4 equal lengths to cover the differences between the two measured lengths. Shoot those four groups of three. Now you will have an indication of where you need to refine your work between those two lengths (the Rem ammo vs the Hdy OAL gauge). Someone else may have a better method. I found this method a quick way to get me into the good territory of accuracy quickly. Also, stick with the same bullet throughout this test! Change bullets, all bets are off. A New bullet will cause you to start from the beginning.
    Remington has a reputation for cutting the chambers a bit long. (that distance from the lands and groves of the bullet). I have found Savage and CZ to be some of the closest to SAAMI specs on chambers.
    Fast movers, those like the 22-250, 220 Swift, etc, they generally will group better on a cool barrel especially as they age. When groups ceases, you will know it, and the barrel needs to be replaced. There are some really great after-market barrels out there that are VERY good, accurate, etc.
    All of my observations and experiences are mine, your mileage may vary.

  • @jaybailleaux630
    @jaybailleaux630 2 місяці тому +11

    That barrel is no burned. 220 swift will not burn out a barrel any faster than a 243 , 25-06, 7mm mag than another high performance cartridge. 55 gr Nosler BT will give you what you need with 4064 and 4895 powder.

    • @michaell397
      @michaell397 2 місяці тому

      The are famous for throat erosion.

    • @juanmacias418
      @juanmacias418 Місяць тому

      i've seen weatherby magnums with only 6" of usable rifling left in a barrel STILL shoot 1.5 MOA.... THAT barrel is Not shot out...​@@michaell397

    • @jaybailleaux630
      @jaybailleaux630 Місяць тому

      ​@@michaell397Yes, it is a matter of physics. 243 and 25-06 are the same throat burners. 220 Swift throat will last longer than 257 Weatherby magnum or 264 Winchester magnum.

  • @cheryltysver4819
    @cheryltysver4819 2 місяці тому +1

    I have enjoyed playing with a number of Remington Sendero's mostly in .300 RUM and have also purchased the Ruger M77 in .220 Swift with the 26" barrel back in the early 70's. I had run across some 3/8" heat treated alloy steel bush hog blades that were stopping 30-06 AP out of a 22" barrel Model 54. The factory 48 grain .220 Swift had a listed velocity of just under 4,100 fps in a 26" barrel... and sailed right through the same alloy steel heat treated 3/8" blade! Chronographs were not easy to come by in those days, like they are now. My latest research is centered on the .22/243M which seems to be the maximum trouble free case capacity for the ,22 caliber bore. DOD had apparently been interested in this
    cartridge in the late 80's/early 90's... as they included it on a display board at an International Small Arms conference in Quantico, Virginia. In early tests it has been able to exceed 4,000 fps with 62 grain FMJ's in a 25" barrel with multiple powders!
    What the heck... there you go again giving it a like before I even had a chance to proof read it!
    At 2am? You are definitely not normal... no wonder you keep winning all the awards on U-tube unless of course you have Alexa or SIRI filling in for you! If you don't you should start your own AI assistant!
    One last thing! Humidity is your enemy when you are trying to carry out load development or shoot sub MOA groups! Try running a patch through the bore after 5 or 10 shots in high humidity and you will see what I mean!

  • @toddfritz2102
    @toddfritz2102 2 місяці тому +3

    220 Swift is a 2 shot group, wiat till it cools and repeat. 3850fps is super fast, super HOT. Nice firearm.

  • @timviering9559
    @timviering9559 2 місяці тому +2

    When the other ammo comes in and you do your normal testing process. If you are not happy, then have your gunsmith adjust that trigger up a bit heavier and see if that helps. I think you have proven that the barrel still has life. Shoot factory ammo until you really need a new barrel, so you are not wasting barrel life and load data because you know that you will just need to redo your work with the new barrel. Great addition to the collection.

  • @tasunko7672
    @tasunko7672 2 місяці тому +7

    Your barrel is good. The stock came factory from Remington, made by H S Precision. The barrel should have a 1 in 14 or a 1 in 12 twist. Mine is a 1 in 14. Check for stock interference with the barrel. Best accuracy with mine is with 40 grain up to 50 grain bullets, and H414 or Varget loaded to near max. You may need magnum primers with H414. 3/4 inch with factory ammo isn't bad. 1/4 inch with good reloads is common. It's a great rifle. I can't count the number of coyotes mine has accounted for over the years.

    • @Morinehtur
      @Morinehtur 2 місяці тому

      Now you ruined it for all those people wanting buy this horrible rifle off him.

    • @tasunko7672
      @tasunko7672 2 місяці тому

      @@Morinehtur If you can find one in good condition, no matter the price, it's a buy.

    • @Morinehtur
      @Morinehtur 2 місяці тому +1

      @@tasunko7672 I don't want want one. I'm just busting you for introducing helpful facts and experience. 👍

  • @user-bn3zo3mh5v
    @user-bn3zo3mh5v 2 місяці тому +4

    Glad you got a 220 Swift. Would love to have that and the 22-250

  • @jacklisiecki2389
    @jacklisiecki2389 2 місяці тому

    Many years ago, I had a Ruger M77V .220. Never had super tight groups with factory ammo - developing a good hand load is the key to super accuracy with the cartridge. Put over 4,000 rounds through the barrel with very little throat erosion. Key to longer barrel life: do not overheat the barrel and always load below maximum.

  • @tomhysell596
    @tomhysell596 2 місяці тому +3

    Check the throat, you can have the barrel set back if you don't want to go with a new barrel. I had this done on a 22-250 and it worked very well and not expensive.

  • @sixluggin
    @sixluggin 2 місяці тому +1

    Someone else struggling with the Tennessee humidity! Lol. Love that rifle. It’s beautiful. Keep it up brother!

  • @wesleyhobbs9
    @wesleyhobbs9 2 місяці тому +1

    This was a good video. I have always wanted this caliber rifle as well, but was always worried that I would find a used one that wasn’t well taken care of or the barrel was shot out what I would like to see, is companies start making this caliber rifle again for hunters!!! I thought it shot pretty good groups, but I would recommend finding a different Ammunition . Yes, the Ammunition did OK but I think for calibers like this the better the Ammunition , the better your groups and precision will be in my opinion. I have found this to be true with my 243 rifle, definitely a nice rifle you got there and I’d like to see more videos on it. Personally, if I could find a good Sako in 220Swift, I would be all over it.

  • @lesbratton
    @lesbratton 2 місяці тому

    I have a Remington 700in 6.5 Creedmoor heavy barrel that was having feeding issues, bought a Legacy Sports magazine conversion kit, replaced entire bottom metal, follower, and magazine box. It is now a straight feed 5 round box magazine, straight feed. Lo and behold no more feeding issues.

  • @PassivePortfolios
    @PassivePortfolios 2 місяці тому +2

    Barrel and throat wear also depend on how fast it was shot and how hot it got. An overbore cartridge like the 257 Weatherby will experience less barrel wear because it is not subjected to repeated shots with no cool down periods like varmint rifles chambered in 220 Swift and 22-250 usually are in prairie dog shooting.

  • @misterlewgee8874
    @misterlewgee8874 2 місяці тому

    Excellent results for factory loads.
    Good on you.

  • @guns4funfreedomkeeper999
    @guns4funfreedomkeeper999 2 місяці тому +1

    My M77 MK2 220 Swift did that same thing last time I took it out. Took it home and ran a patch through it. The thing was filthy. I scrubbed it out. I hope it comes back around. It used to shoot .6’s with factory loads.

  • @daltonaltizer2961
    @daltonaltizer2961 2 місяці тому +1

    By far, my absolute favorite cartridge. From my experience, the swift likes a 55-57gr bullet, but if you really want to light up a chronograph, a 40gr V-Max shoots well in them too. Just let the barrel cool more often with the 40s. Ive been lucky enough to find 3 over the last few years to put in the safe, but you have the one I've been after for ages

  • @boothsar78
    @boothsar78 2 місяці тому +4

    Thanks for the video, looking forward to seeing your 264 win mag.

  • @foreverjim5240
    @foreverjim5240 2 місяці тому +2

    I have that gun in .308, it shoots 1/4" groups, but only with handloads. Factory ammo is loaded with volume power measure. Use a good scale to handload, or even pull the bullets and remeasure the factory stuff. That should shrink the groups.

  • @edwardh1591
    @edwardh1591 2 місяці тому +2

    Barrel is fine. It’s a reloaders cartridge. I used a max load of Varget in mine with a 50 grain bullet. A little tip for buying used rifles. Buy a borescope and inspect the barrel before you buy.

  • @dmgcase
    @dmgcase 2 місяці тому +1

    220 swift is my all-time favorite caliber. I own several of them. All the hype about the swift being a barrel burner is just crap with modern steel. A guy could burn the barrel/throat out most any barrel if he's not paying attention. Doesn't seem like there is anything wrong with that rifle. Handloads will help, just like with any other caliber. Make sure you keep the barrel clean. My Swifts seem to want to copper foul easier than other cartridges. Case stretch is definitely something to watch for in 220 swift. Keep your brass trimmed. I've had good luck with IMR 4064 and 50-52 grain bullets. If you want to see some devastation on ground hogs, rock chucks, etc, try the Sierra Blitzking. Congrats on your awesome new rifle!

  • @jimdavis1124
    @jimdavis1124 2 місяці тому

    The groups are what I would expect from some factory ammunition. I started shooting a Ruger M77 220 Swift in 1974. The traditional powder for the swift is IMR 4064. Every swift I have owned shoots with that powder. In 1977 I had my Varmint weight 220 swift rechambered to 220 Weatherby Rocket. in my opinion it is the best version of all the improved swifts). It greatly reduces the case stretching during resizing. From my new 26” Sporter Lilja Stainless steel barrel, RL 17 and old Norma N205 both give me approx. 4020 ft./sec with the 55 gr. Nosler Ballistic tip seated .010 off the lands and grove's and The Barns 55 gr. TTSX seated .080 off the lands and groves. Both loads are backed off from Maximum and group in the mid to high 3’s. The coyotes don’t like me. Enjoy your 220 swift; I don't believe that it burn out barrels any faster than the 22-250 when both are hand loaded to Max. Lots of powder in a small bore.

  • @nathanguilliams7255
    @nathanguilliams7255 2 місяці тому +3

    Clean it very thoroughly. Then wait a day and then clean it again. No kidding about wanting a day then repeat cleaning. I have bought rifles that owners thought were shot out. I cleaned them several times in a week. Then took them to the range. All shot MOA or better.

  • @sfish2325
    @sfish2325 2 місяці тому +23

    You’ve gotta work up a handload for that Swift to really get everything you can out of it! Give 55gr Nosler Ballistic Tip Varmint bullets and 52gr Sierras a look!

    • @raychap11
      @raychap11 2 місяці тому

      That's the same reloads that I have found that works the best in my swift. Ruger M77 bought it new in 1985 give or take a year. Still shoot as good as it did then.

    • @jamesshramek8883
      @jamesshramek8883 2 місяці тому

      @@raychap11 agreed!!

    • @michaell397
      @michaell397 2 місяці тому +1

      Those Sierra BT Hp's are lasers!!!
      KnifeMaker

  • @colincarrick9360
    @colincarrick9360 2 місяці тому

    I had the same issue with a pawn shop 22-250. I used Tubbs final finish fire laping projectiles. It brought new life into the rifle! It works fantastic. Have used on 308, and 223 remington with great success too.

  • @donbenson5292
    @donbenson5292 2 місяці тому

    Second centerfire I shot when I was a kid was a pre 64 Winchester mod 70. Have always had one. A Savage varmint always shot very good. Have a custom built 788 action with a Shilen select, 12 inch twist chambered with a custom reamer from Manson's. Made for Winchester brass and 60gr vmaxes. Shoots 65 gr Sierras very well also.
    Quite a few of them in NW Ohio for groundhogs.
    Good to see you doing a 220 Swifter!!! Thanks

  • @KathrynLiz1
    @KathrynLiz1 2 місяці тому +2

    It'd be good to get that scope lower over the bore...., especially for the long range stuff for which the Swift is suited. At 3780fps it won't be too hard on the barrel, Original factory load with 50gr bullets was over 4000fps...But the Stainless barrels resist burnout a bit longer.
    Those jams with soft point bullets will dent the noses and open your groups a bit..... so with clean feeds about 1/2" or less is probably what you are going to get.
    Try some hollow points..... Sierra Game King 50 or 55gr will perform well for you, and no soft points to get dinged.
    The Swift has a BIG boiler room, so the right powder with little air space is best for consistent accuracy. I doubt that the factories are fussy about it these days as so few people shoot the Swift. Top loads in a 22-250 are about what your Remington Swift factory fodder is giving. It would be well worth handloading to get the best performance out of that rifle... most Swift aficionados of the past loaded their own; that big 6mm Lee case give plenty of room for the slow powders. Have fun... 🙂

  • @dusty_leatherworks
    @dusty_leatherworks 2 місяці тому +1

    One of my favorite cartridge and rifles ever!!@ Wish I could find one of those!!!

  • @darrendoyle2518
    @darrendoyle2518 2 місяці тому

    Dude! Great video and love your authenticity. I live in Colorado and do not envy that humidity but boy, everything lush and green back there. So awesome you leave your scope adjustment mizsakes in there and average group "point oh seven" when you meant .7. I have to say, you really are my favorite youtuber. Just an absolutely great video Sir. Enjoy that rifle!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  2 місяці тому

      @@darrendoyle2518 🙏🙏🙏 appreciate you watching bigtime

  • @oncall21
    @oncall21 2 місяці тому

    Hey Hooty. Nothing wrong with that barrel! With factory ammo they are excellent groups. Plus it’s a hot day and heavy barrels take longer to cool down. Handloads will halve these groups for a deadly, long range varmint rig. Thanks for sharing! 🙏

  • @ronaldwashburn7769
    @ronaldwashburn7769 2 місяці тому +1

    Have the same rifle. Ammo makes the difference on group size. I hand load everyone to get .333 5 group size at 100 yds. Keep with it great gun. Ron

  • @garyhopkinssr8561
    @garyhopkinssr8561 2 місяці тому

    I can't wait until you find a different kinds of 220 Swift for that sweet looking rifle and seriously that's going to be a lot of fun to watch you do that...thanks again Adam.

  • @danmuffley6418
    @danmuffley6418 2 місяці тому +1

    Plug the muzzle & fill the barrel with foaming bore cleaner (And made for Copper removal) prop the rifle upside down overnight with a paper towel under the muzzle. A electro bore cleaning rod ( Not cheap though) can do wonders

  • @223Sako
    @223Sako 2 місяці тому +1

    With factory ammo thats a decent result. I had a vssf in .223 they are excellent rifles.

  • @Eric--zs6um
    @Eric--zs6um 2 місяці тому +6

    The longer that round sits in the chamber, chances increase your groups will open up. Don't load until ready to ready to squeeze..
    .220 is a great round.
    Got a 1976 Ruger 77 v Bicentennial edition. 220 Swift.

  • @brians2733
    @brians2733 2 місяці тому

    That rifle is an absolute beauty. I have to be thankful to Remington for deciding to develop the model 700 VSSF, because I was able to pick up the discontinued model (the 700 VS) in .22-250 for $529. Still one of my best firearm bargains and shoots like a dream.

  • @felixbelmontez2872
    @felixbelmontez2872 2 місяці тому +1

    I had the exact same rifle back in the day. It can shoot, trust me. Being that the trigger has been adjusted or changed I would clean the rifle really good. I mean pull the stock off and clean everything. Then make sure your stock is on the rifle at the proper torque. I adjusted my trigger and didn’t follow the torque specs. It wouldn’t shot very good. After I adjusted the torque you could drive nails with it. Hope you get it figured out, should be a great rifle.

  • @strikezonefishingadventures
    @strikezonefishingadventures 2 місяці тому

    The 220 Swift is an amazingly fast cartridge, but it does have 2 downsides. It only takes 2-3 shots for the barrel to get mighty hot. The second is noise. The concussion of the round is incredibly loud. It is noticeably louder than even the 22/250. This would be a good cartridge to be able to mount a silencer if you can find a barrel that will take one. For shooting coyotes, prairie dogs, or ground hogs, you only get 1-2 shots because of the concussion volume without one. Ron Spomer did a review of the 220 Swift a while back. He found some material that claimed that many of the old time government wildlife officers preferred the 220 Swift with 60gr bullets for culling deer. I believe Nosler makes a couple of different 60gr bullets - a ballistic tip varmint bullet, and a partition bullet.

  • @getoffmylawn8986
    @getoffmylawn8986 2 місяці тому

    Brother Adam: I agree, I don't think that barrel is burnt out, but it's a very real concern with the Swift, originating from the old days. My late father left me a bunch of books from the 30s and 40s which describe the development of the Swift. They routinely cranked them out at WAY over 4000 fps, and some barrels lasted less than 100 rounds. The Swift is actually factory loaded now at far lower velocities than the old days.

  • @kweeks10045
    @kweeks10045 2 місяці тому

    I bought a 223 wssm years ago. It is just a little faster than the swift. Man, those things hit like lightning. The 62grn Barnes ended up being my favorite bullet. It was tough enough to hang together on game at 3800fps. Even then it was explosive. If speed kills, that swift will take whatever you want.

  • @trevorpollock3024
    @trevorpollock3024 2 місяці тому

    Had a Ruger MK2 VT in .220 Swift. It was an insanely accurate rifle for rabbit,fox & crow fitted with Nightforce 8 -32 x56 & handloads.
    I sold it about 6 years ago to fund another rifle build.Should never have sold it as it was the best factory rifle I ever owned.
    Excellent content on the .220,had the same issue as everyone kept saying it was a barrel burner! It is no worse than my .17 Remington,.204 Ruger & .22-250.Just let the barrel cool down if shooting over a rabbit warren & it is the same as any high velocity varmint cartridge.

  • @davidlaney8254
    @davidlaney8254 2 місяці тому

    I agree with the others. Do a reset on the barrel by giving it a good cleaning and check for buildup of copper. However, I would suggest staying with the same ammo for now instead of changing two variables at once. If you see strong improvement, try a final tweaking with different ammo. Would have been better and maybe saved you some time if you had started off with an inspection with a bore scope, given it's a used rifle. Your no hype, everyday guy videos are always a pleasure to watch.

  • @hk45c62
    @hk45c62 2 місяці тому +2

    I would suggest that you use some Flitz Stainless polish and clean your barrel. 220 Swift and 264 Winchester Magnum are notorious copper foulers. And when you set up for reloading the 220 Swift, choose a powder with a faster burning rate and don't push the speed of the round, your barrel will thank you and your brass will last longer.

    • @matthewbutcher203
      @matthewbutcher203 2 місяці тому

      I agree with this other than I use Barnes CR 10x copper removal or sweets 7.62 copper removal swab the bore heavily and let it soak for a few hours heavy fouling isn't going to wipe out with a simple soak and scrub gonna have to give those chemicals time to react

  • @IWatchedWhat
    @IWatchedWhat 2 місяці тому +2

    Not bad for factory ammo, I use 40gr VMax bullets with IMR4064 and average .4 to .5 most days. But yes they heat up faster than my 22-250.

  • @clcmarc
    @clcmarc 2 місяці тому

    WTW, my first center fire rifle was a custom Mauser .220 Swift and while it’s been gone for a long time, I still miss it.
    I would be ecstatic with those groups from a Swift. Mine used to like 52 and 53 grain HP’s and in the days before range finders and ballistics apps, hitting at longer ranges was a blast. Enjoy it and I am anxious to see you stretch it out.

  • @Siskiyous6
    @Siskiyous6 Місяць тому

    Clean clean clean and clean that barrel some more. A friend bought a shot out 7mm Remington Magnum. After the fourth cleaning it shot 1/2 inch at 100. Clean then clean then clean. Did I say clean the barrel. I have a 220 Swift, a Ruger M77 with sporter barrel, and that same buddy has one too, both still shoot well after decades of use. We clean the barrels!

  • @waynemayle865
    @waynemayle865 2 місяці тому +6

    I own the same one clean that barrel really good I've only handloaded for mine since it was new. Ya might need to put a bore scope down the barrel an have a look at the throat hope for the best

  • @wilmamcdermott3065
    @wilmamcdermott3065 2 місяці тому +3

    Same as my 220 swift mine shoots. 3 shots. Into 3/4 inch at 200 yards

  • @BrokeandBustdOutdoors
    @BrokeandBustdOutdoors 2 місяці тому +2

    I just took Talley rings off of a 1964 remington 700 7mm mag today. I prefer the rail myself..I went with a vortex viper.. really enjoy that rifle..

  • @randyjnaron
    @randyjnaron 2 місяці тому +1

    One little trick with a possibly burned out barrel is to seat the bullet out a little farther. Sometimes that makes a noticeable difference. I have a ruger 77 26” varmint and it has thousands of rounds through it. Still sub 1/2” with 50gr Speer bullets.

    • @raychap11
      @raychap11 2 місяці тому

      I have the same gun. Bought it new in the mid 80's at a Furr's grocery store in Borger, TX.

    • @johnwilburn8319
      @johnwilburn8319 2 місяці тому

      I had a Ruger Model 77 that loved 50gr. Speers.

  • @joeschmoe6213
    @joeschmoe6213 2 місяці тому

    I own two 700 VS's. Yes that is the original stock. They are HS Precision. My first was in 220 Swift I bought brand new in 93. It is blued VS, not fluted. The second I bought brand new in 97 and it is a VSSF in 308. I am having the Swift rebarreled right now. It had about 3 inches of throat erosion. It still would shoot about 1 inch groups at 100. I'm going with an E.R. Shaw barrel. On the Swift I have settled on the Sierra 52 SMK and IMR 3031.

  • @michaelmoran8780
    @michaelmoran8780 2 місяці тому

    Seen these go right through genuine target steel plate😂 not the thick gongs or anything like that but a 1/4" sailed right on through it 👉💥🗯definitely fun stuff but it's unfortunately not good for the already short life of the barrel, a throat burner for sure but unique capabilities and worth it IMHO, thanks for getting your hands on all the different Bing bangs lol you're showing more calibers more often than I think anyone but either way it's a whole lot of them and I appreciate it 😂God bless 👍🇺🇸

  • @Pathfinder76
    @Pathfinder76 2 місяці тому +1

    The Swift is a rimmed cartridge. Stack them in the magazine so the rims are progressively ahead of each other. Otherwise you will have them hanging up on each other causing feeding issues

  • @gregharman9146
    @gregharman9146 2 місяці тому +2

    Change the rings! Keep the bases. There is a potential for misalignment on scope base holes on Remington M-700 receivers.

  • @johnballantyne6853
    @johnballantyne6853 2 місяці тому

    I’ve had the same rifle as this for over 30 years and it has shot thousands of rounds since i got it and I’ve never had a single feed problem ! It still shoots great with 52gn Sierra hollow points and H414.

  • @normanbanks8902
    @normanbanks8902 2 місяці тому +1

    Think the barrel is burnt out. You should send it to me immediately to avoid any headaches for yourself in the future!! 😂😂 Love those older Remingtons.

  • @juanmacias418
    @juanmacias418 Місяць тому

    check your muzzle for a burr.... if not check the barrel channel for signs of barrel contact,then check where the bolt handle closes and look for signs of contact.... if you see any marring.use a rasp to clear out the excess material. that "should" help with the grouping....
    now as for the loading problems... that round is semi rimmed and needs to be loaded a certain way (like an enfield no4.
    all else fails get a bore scope and check the rifling and chamber for defects.

  • @BSaunders3754
    @BSaunders3754 2 місяці тому

    Hey man, .5” group………are you kidding me? That is phenomenal accuracy. Well done partner!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  2 місяці тому

      🙏🙏🙏 thanks for watching

  • @georgemannsr8708
    @georgemannsr8708 2 місяці тому

    I have had 2 Ruger's in 220 Swift. 1 was a Model 77 and1 #1.both were heavy varmint models.Both were very accurate with 52 grain bullets and a healthy (but below max) charge of H414. Both had 26" barrels btw. Velocity was so close to 4000fps . The Model 77 had the same problem with feeding that your Remington had. I modified it to be a single shot and enjoyed it. I shot probably 800 each rounds out them with no change in accuracy.They were the cause of many a p dog's explosive demise .

  • @IRishbuck58
    @IRishbuck58 2 місяці тому

    Great video don’t be so hard on yourself. Good groups on the first time shooting this rifle

  • @99zebster
    @99zebster 2 місяці тому +1

    I believe the groups are great for factory low end ammo. Better ammo/hand loads I believe you’ll be very happy happy happy. Also I’ve owned 220 swift. The barrel heat up fast! Due to the high velocity. I shot slower strings of fire to manage barrel heat up.

  • @NateA80
    @NateA80 2 місяці тому +2

    I have a ruger m77 and a ruger #1 in 220 swift, the federal premium, hornaday v max, and winchester ballistic silver tip do well, the federal premium did amazing, muzzel velocity on the box shoes 4250fps.... punches through ar500 nicely as well.. obviously not the super thick stuff..

  • @geekers3005
    @geekers3005 2 місяці тому +2

    Got two Ruger M77’s (heavy and light barrels). Both tac drivers. Both have been shot a ton of times. Both barrels look like crap but shoot well.

  • @SEOKLADUCKIN
    @SEOKLADUCKIN 2 місяці тому +1

    Love my 22-250 700 remington VSSF SF

  • @DennyB-xg6fe
    @DennyB-xg6fe 2 місяці тому +2

    It could be, but I would clean in really clean. I had a similar issue swapping boo lots. It wasn’t a 220 swift.

  • @NC-xk1eg
    @NC-xk1eg 2 місяці тому

    Though a huge fan of "the barrel burners" I've never owned a .220 Swift or a .222, (yet). 👍

  • @jeremystyron9721
    @jeremystyron9721 2 місяці тому

    My 220 swift LOVES 60-62gr Bing bangs I have a ruger red label 26in varmint barrel almost one hole groups also have a 222-250 Ruger red lable 26in varmint also I have found the bolttail hollow points work the best in mine anyway keep up the GREAT content God-bless you and your family and God-bless America

  • @jackleachman407
    @jackleachman407 Місяць тому

    Remington 700 triggers are adjustable if you find it dangerously light. The Real Gunsmith did a video on the 700 triggers FYI. Love this channel!!

  • @timviering9559
    @timviering9559 2 місяці тому

    I had the same gun in the 90s. Remington 700 varmint synthetic stainless. That is the original stock. I had the sendaro in 25-06, which had the same look to the stock, but it was a smidgen beefier. Very good shooters.

  • @chrisgabbert658
    @chrisgabbert658 2 місяці тому +2

    👍😊 keep a round count on it and limit test and shoot wisely for a good reason.

  • @JeepsCafe
    @JeepsCafe 2 місяці тому

    I like the groups on the very top center of the target that you forgot to measure. 🤣🤣

  • @kdean8129
    @kdean8129 2 місяці тому +1

    Clean it with Wipe Out or Patch out and then get a Teslong bore scope for less than a crisp 100 bucks. That will show you what's happening . 220 Swift is a real hot number if the previous owner was a handloader or just shot it alot . . In any case it looks like a beauty and your local gunsmith can do some magic with that Bing Bang. ALSO . HS Precision stocks are great as is . NEVER let anyone pillar bed or glass bed or simply mess up the best stocks in the US. One on my short action and the other on a .338 are two of the best they ever sent out .

  • @myanaloglife9450
    @myanaloglife9450 2 місяці тому

    Shot nice, keep playing with it, REM 700s from the 90s early 2000 are amazing, nice rig

  • @melectrician
    @melectrician 2 місяці тому +2

    1. That barrel is not shot out
    2. I have had 3 220 swift. Including a savage a ruger and an older remington.
    3. I am currently looking for like the one you are holding 😂 to complete my (recut 223 barrel) .222, my 22-250 and my .300 win mag sendero.
    4. In my personal opinion, the 220 swift is a handloaders round, and it does really well with a 55grn bullet and 4895 or h380 or h414 behind it. All the off the shelf ammo i ever ran was subpar compared to getting a nice load right in the accuracy node. Many, many, many thousands of pdogs have met their maker at the end of my 220 and 22-250s over the years

  • @jamesash5792
    @jamesash5792 2 місяці тому +1

    The 220 Swift very finicky give me a good old 22-250 same barrel length and some reloads you're only talking about a 100 ft of second or so difference

  • @Pathfinder76
    @Pathfinder76 2 місяці тому

    VSSF: Varmint Synthetic Stainless Fluted. You can also adjust that trigger a touch heavier if you wish.

  • @josephmedeiros5770
    @josephmedeiros5770 2 місяці тому

    220 swift is a great old cartridge. Yes, they are known for eating barrels and throats, but heat is the enemy. Keep the barrel temp reasonable, and you should have decent longevity.
    You are being hard on the gun and yourself. That hair trigger takes time to get used to. Also, ammo plays a role. Variations in bullet weight, diameter, and seating add up.
    All in all, that was great results for first shots . Keep up the great content.