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How to make boot times faster on Ryzen 7000.
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- Опубліковано 7 кві 2023
- In this video I go over bios settings that will improve your post speed on Ryzen 7000 compatible motherboards. My particular board is the TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI. By default the BIOS will have "Memory Context Restore" set to auto. What this means is that the memory will retrain every time you boot your PC. If you enable this setting your post times will go from 1 minutes down to around 15 seconds. Hope this helps!
Great vid and thanks for the help, reduced from 60 to 20 seconds. A little update to anybody using a Asus rog strix X670E-E; if you make the change that is demonstrated in this video and are then unable to post, this is very likely because the option 'power down enable' (just above memory context restore) is set to auto. So don't panic, your board is fine. But you will now have to use the CMOS button to reset your bios, then enable EXPO again. Let it boot once to make sure everything is okay (takes a good minute or so). Then follow the steps in this video and at the same time, make sure to set the 'power down enable' from auto to enabled and enjoy your new speeds :)
Thanks! Ill pin your post incase others have this problem!
Does this only work with Expo timings?
It absolutely bricked when I tried it with a manual RAM overclock (6 hours anta extreme stable and 12000% Karhu coverage stable)
First time I tried this my PC was unable to boot, and I had to do a clear CMOS to resolve the issue. A few days later, I made the decision to replace my XMP Corsair Dominator RAM sticks to the EXPO version equivalent. This adjustment was successful, as my system finally booted with the memory context restore setting without any complications. Notably, this change resulted in a considerable improvement in boot time. Thanks for the video!
So you don't recommend this for those who have xmp kits?
@@RainOnWarpaint You can definitely give it a shot and see if it works for you. Perhaps my XPM kit had a specific issue. If, for any reason, it doesn't work and your PC doesn't boot, you can easily resolve it by performing a clear CMOS to revert back to the factory configuration. Afterward, you still have the option to switch to the Expo kit, as in my case, it was a success and continues to run perfectly to this day.
Context restore is in two places in the bios...one is in DRAM Timing towards the bottom, & the other is under the advanced tab,,/amdcbs/umc options/ddr options/ddr memory features/context restore
With some motherboards, Power Down is not automatically enabled when you enable Memory Context Restore. If you enable the latter, you should make sure you enable the former, especially if you encounter a bsod like I did. In my case, MSI B650 Carbon.
Tysm bro. Made sure to enable both after reading ur comment and my boot time went from 67 seconds to 16.2!
Do i have to enable Power Down even if my boot time is already reduced by enabling only Memory Context Restore? Thanks in advance!
If everything is stable I think you don't have to enable it
@@metal571 thanks a lot, i have the msi b650 carbon too anyway, i asked for that :)
@@jacopojack95where is the power down setting I got a MSI b650-p pro
Brother, thank you! My ASUS TUF GAMING B650-PPLUS had the same problem with slow loading in EXPO. After following your instructions, the download became fast. Thank you!
Happy to help!
Worked. Thanks a lot. (b650e-e, 7950x3d, 7900xtx)
At first you said it would reduce it from 1min down to 45 secs and I’m like “well that’s kinda worthless. Then it reduced it to 5 or 10 secs. WIN!
Thanks!
Fourt(o|y)five. I heard it too.
your motherboard ?
what motherboard?
Thank you so much! After about 6 month of having my new PC, I brought down the whole bios + boot time by roughly one minute.
Motherboard ASUS rog crosshair x670e hero
DDR5-6000 set on 5800 for stability.
thank you some much! i have the same motherboard TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI with ryzen 7 7800x3d and 2x16gb 6000mhz and this make my post time so much shorter. Thanks for the video
dude i have the same motherboard with a 7800x3d and my boot time just went from a minute to less than 20 seconds! thanks a lot
Bro💀my boot time has reduced to 4 seconds , appreciate it i was kinnda worried about why it taking so long to post after updating my bios
what motherboard?
Thank you very much, tested with my current setup that i recently upgraded which is:
Case: Phantek Eclipse P500 Air Mesh (Black)
GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 3090 Ti GAMING X TRIO
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D 12-Core
RAM: Kingston FURY Beast RGB DDR5 6000MHz 64GB
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME X670E-PRO WIFI
Power Supply: ASUS ROG Strix 1000w PSU
Storage1: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2 PCIe SSD
Storage2: Kingston A2000 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD
Storage3: Samsung 870 QVO 2.5'' SSD 4TB
my boot time went from 65-75 seconds to 13-15 seconds! absolutely amazing, it would only boot this fast WITHOUT the AMD expo profile disabled, thank you very much. :) love the simple explanation of it all aswell and visual guidance!
Glad it was helpful!
This can destabilize some systems FYI.
Yes, I did it and can’t launch any games
Yes started noticing stutters in game turned it off
At 2:26 I misspoke. Your post time should be 15 seconds, not 45.
That was probably the one thing you werent supposed to mis-say :D You spoke well though. Great find, I appreciate the share, great job.
@@AndyU96 Very new to this! Thanks!
Hellz yeah! This worked on my MSI B650m. It used to take me about 90 seconds to hit the desktop and now down to 35 seconds
MSI X670E Tomohawk. Power Down must be enabled if MCR is enabled, if you dont enable Power down you'll get a BSOD during or after windows boot. @ MSI, why is it that the VGA POST light illuminates for RAM post issues, I spent hours truble shooting my VGA/GPU setup when it dawned on me that it was the RAM which was slowing BOOT up. I think that RAM and VGA POST lights are mislabeled on this board.
worked like a charm! R5 7600x+ B650E-E + Gskill 32gb DDR5 6000m/t Cl 30. Thanks!
You are very welcome!
I have exact same Pc (R5 7600x + ROG B650E-E + 32GB DDR5 6400M/T CL32)
But when I shotdown my pc, the LED on the motherboard (ROG Logo) and case front panel LED (Razer Logo) does not turn off !
Did you faced this problem ?
@@YSFarshad yes the ROG logo stays lit after shutting down, but I always remove the power cable from the outlet whenever I am away or not using my PC so no worries for me.
Thank you!! startup from 59 sec to 8 sec. Cool!!
Glad it was helpful!
what motherboard?
@@RARA-kf2qw ROG-STRIX-B650E-I-GAMING-WIFI
So I believe this has to do with memory training for AMD systems. AMD motherboards have this enabled by default(usually)to ensure that the the CPU can use the best timing/speeds of the RAM every time the computer has a new boot cycle. Disabling this also disables memory training. While this will speed up the boot time, your system will not be optimized or memory trained on following sequential boots.
Personally I like to leave it enabled to ensure the communication between my CPU and RAM is always optimized. I hit the power button, go grab a cup of water or a snack, and let the memory training do it's thing. I usually only do one or two boots on a given day anyways.
To each their own.
So why should it get "trained" every time it boots? Can't it just keep the same settings?
@@nossy232323 i guess silicon lottery and degradation over time
Yep, that was exactly my understanding too.
Its a shame that my R9 7900x System is slower to boot from power on to desktop than my i7 6700k System but at the end of the day. Its the performance while we're up and running that we really care about
Go grab a snack and wait on the PC? Is this the 80s again?
@@no.nomoreidontcare Wait what do you mean? If it doesn't get trained will it damage the silicon?
i bought corsair dominator platinum ddr5 6200mhz for my am5 motherboard, has that got something to do with why mine takes so long to boot up? currently mine takes over a minute to boot up every time, and the ram i bought says intel xmp, does that matter? cause videos I've seen says it doesn't, that's its just a marketing thing so idk why mine is like this
Just be careful reguarding expo at this moment, alot of information about this at the moment and chips killing themselfs and taking the board with it. Asus want you to update to the latests bios which is 1409 for this board.
Thanks for the recommendation, updating the bios ASAP!
@@WolfpackDentist Np, another beta bios has dropped for this since yesterday. Which locks in the SOC voltage. At this stage i dont fully know what the issue is, as its reported a few times mainly on X3D chips but i have seen non X3D chips also develop the fault.
Yeah specially with scummy asus. Constantly regulate and monitor your voltage please
Thanks mate. After following the instructions I've reached 13 sec boot (before I had to wait over a minute)
Help my PC won’t boot.
Ryzen 7800 3dx
Crucial pro 16gb x2
Asrock b650e pg itx WiFi
Thank you so much, man! 🤩
Thanks a lot for taking time to upload this for other. I was really annoyed by this.
You can shorten the first bios screen view time, get some extra seconds too
Many Thanks! The repost times were driving me crazy!
I purchased a remote pc starter, my life got more comfort now! And also I can then startup it outside the house and bring my vr headsett to friends and play. About 20ms network delay it seems. Weird since we got same internet and are close. Guess routing is far south or something.
Great video, solved all of my problems. Thank you!
Worked for me asus prime b650m-k and ryzen 5 7600x
Thank you worked on 7600X 7800xt ddr5 5600mhz EXPO1
b650 gaming plus
Went from 53s to 25s
Guys , need straight help … i have 7900xtx , 7950x3D 6000mhz ram , motherboard x670e-e rog strix … startup time 62 seconds with expo tweak , before expo was 60 .. what the hell
What us the exact kit of memory you are running?
@@WolfpackDentist i was sleepy + i didnt saw your full video , after watching it again while im awake , all i can say thankkkk you mannn its beeen 5 months i was trying to figure it out and you helped alot you deserve an big sub !!
Thank you so much for the info. It helped a lot.
I have the exact same board and same CPU and with my G.Skill Z5 Neo 6000 64 GB kit running EXPO and memory context restore not working for me. Windows 11 was bluescreening directly at startup with "Memory_Management" code, but with a much newer BIOS version 2214 (I tried 2412 and 2413 too, but those was extremely unstable - even in the BIOS itself).
But i i am not sure about the "Power Down" option...
Dropped from 62 seconds to 12 seconds, thanks brother.
What about the other memory context restore in advanced settings, if you are going to post a video at least do it right. OK people, there are "2" memory context restore settings. If you set both to enabled, your post and boot times will be the same as an older AM4 system.
guys keep in mind this could also cause issues. if you notice your PC crashes, revert these changes. this isnt a "fix all" for boot times. mobo manufacturers need to get their heads out of their asses. most have improved this issue, MSI budget boards still have this problem
Which x670e boards don't have this issue
My bloody MSI B650 tomahawk has this issue
Thank you Sir! That was exactly my problem and now it is fixed :)
Thx it worked, but a day after i got bsod. After setting those dram settings to default the bsod stopped
Bro it worked so well for me! Thanks a lot you saved me!
Amazing info! thanks!
Can I ask, what does the setting do specifically?
Based on the information I could find this setting allows the system to store DDR5 timings, preventing it from retraining every boot.
You've saved me a lot of time and nerves. My system used to take between 1 to 5 minutes to get to the POST screen, but now it jumps to Windows immediately.
7950x3d
asus tuf x670e
64gb 6000 cl30-36-36-76
I've been looking for that option on my Aorus elite ax, hope its in the same place in my BIOS.
You just saved my day.🎉❤ Thank you!!!
Unfortunately this also makes you bsod all the time even before getting to windows.
That should only happen if you're running Ram that isnt on the QVL for the motherboard manufacturer. But I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule.
@@WolfpackDentist QVL only its based on what ram they've tested on their boards, has nothing to do with this, im using a "ryzen optimized" ddr4 3600mhz on a z170 pro gaming aura only supports 3400max kit according to qvl and bullshit.
Make sure to turn on Power Down on AI TWEAKER settings.
Ajudou muito! Valeuu
Mine wasn’t booting after I turn on expo. But I updated the bios and now I get to use the full 6000mhz I purchased haha yay thanks! And it also boot faster now instead of me watching the motherboard light stays on DRAM for like 40secs haha
My problem is the time it takes to load my GPU, i now some commands in Linux to make PCIe "at time" so every time it needs its ready for game, not anything equal at Windows BUT, i found something very interesting called Kithara RealTime Suite, very very interesting......
I purchased a new pc and it boots in like 10 seconds without me tweaking anything, my rams are NEO Z5 RGB 6000mhz from G.Skill . The only thing i edited was the speed of the rams from 4500 to 6000hz, why is that?
whats your exact boot time?
It used to take 70 seconds to boot now it takes 15. Thanks
Thanks for sharing. Is that cause any performance impact?
Nice but I wish it was for asrock z690 extreme antel ddr4 pls if someone know can advice
Turning it off completely boots in 12-13 seconds.
They’ll fix expo and OC’ing with future updates. The fact that expo causes 40-50second boot times is sketchy enough so I’ll just wait till they fix it
still not fixed lol
still not fixed lol
You forgot to mention you need to TWO OF THE MCR
You are amazing! thanks bud
Is system stable with this trick? I have expo profile 1 and speed 5200mhz because 6000mhz is not stable for me but will try 5600mhz
Worked for me thanks.
Thanks trying this tonight
Have you updated to the 1634 bios yet?
GG Broh my pc boot 40 s - 12 s nice thxx 👍👍
crazy bc I keep reading posts on forums saying turn expo off
Honestly I'd rather not mess with this. My current PC takes like 5 minutes to boot so booting in 1 minute is absolutely fine.
thx mään this help mey post time get 58 Sec ---> 10 Sec
I am using asrock riptide b650m 3 days ago and build my pc with the 7800x3d.
My pc boots up around 20 seconds on the latest bios. I didnt need to do this. Should i still do it for even faster boot times?
Bro did u tried this yet,i am interested to do so
gracias me funciono
Thank you!
jees thanks thought my pc was broken
Thanks for sharing! This is still super slow though.... my 8 year old PC starts within 17 seconds into the OS (Linux). BIOS/UEFI takes about 8-10 seconds.
I dont think you understand it
On my asus tuf b650m-lus always stuck on bios if mcr enabled with power down.
Hi was searching for someone with my case just build new rig and i still have faith after several cold boots but this mobo can't seem to complete the first training, have to power down and it gets to the bios in 1 min in safe mode.
You have any fix?
@@jonatrollnimous8472 Unfortunately, I can't solve this problem. I tried all possible combinations, and it never worked for me on different bios versions.
So old DDR4 systems were far better in this aspect, my pc boots with ddr4 3200, 11400f within 10-15 seconds
Alright so after reboot fast boot off yellow dram light for 15-20 sec then off red cpu for 2-5 sec then off then white vga 1 sec then green light then boot so is it supposed to happen? Ive reset cpu reinstall ram etc so is my new pc parts fine or need to return? Im going crazy with some saying memory training some say new mb etc. everything else works perfect and dont mind the boot speed at all jus want to make sure thanks
I have exact the same problem. And after I enabled memory context restore my pc booted fast but had bluescreen while booting into windows ( maybe because I didn’t enabled power down enable). Then I wanted to disable it but my BIOS was freezing after 10 seconds I was in. So I reset my pc like 5 times till I could disable it.
@@rogonos3513 I think its because my ram isn't on my mb qvl so it's doing memory training Everytime or something. My mb enabled power down when I turned on mcr but I jus leave it off.
Thanks worked 👍🎉
still takes 30 seconds to boot for me with this on
for w/e reason having that enabled makes me bsod so often its crazy.
Makes my pc unstable
Whats cpu and mobo amd ddr are y using?
@@georgiodavid gskill 6000 32 gb, amd ryzen 7800x3d, msi mag b650 tomahawk
@@Smoos54 i have now tried everything...boots in 100sec. Its crazy..I know that at the beginning 6000MHz ddr5 was problem so trying me expo 2 5600..
@@georgiodavid unbelievable how amd let this happen
From the win 95 generation, 60 seconds is still fast 😂
I have x670 aorus motherboard and r9 7900x 6000mhz ram . I have ram issues problem. Black screen issues. How can I solve that? Do u have same problem
May I learn your motherboard and ram model?
Did you find your answer? You need to make sure it is AMD Expo ram.... The ram this days can be Intel or for AMD
@@MJVH777 they changed my CPU and motherboard. I fixed problem
I had the same issue with my R9 7950x paired with asus x670-p, with Hyperx fury memory, ram wouldn't stay on 6k mhz, as soon as it started to load windows it would restart to bios, what I found on the internet was to disable fast boot from bios, and that fixed it for me.
@@deianthedon bro, I changed my ram . New Ram is Kingston 6000mhz and windows boot time 10 seconds
Very slow in comparison of my i7-6700k until today...
Hello!
MY ram sticks are EXPO ready and I had no issue with them, but after making these changes in BIOS, did you encounter any problems while booting later on?
I haven't had any problems, but you need to make sure your Ram is compatible with your Motherboard. Even if it says EXPO, that doesn't means the products will pair together correctly.
What let me guess running, AMD still needs to reboot so often you had to make a video on booting the unstable platform faster.
Ive found that this comes from running anything over 6000MHz, OR if you try to run 4 DIMMS of DDR5.
You must have a slow nvme. Mine boots in 30 seconds
X670e boards have different memory training and boot speeds. I use a Samsung 990 Pro NVME.
hey, ive seen that 7800x3d can have only ramaxhz at 5200mhz and i already have 6000mhz ram, and i just checked for 7900x its same, but i could see you have it running at 6000mhz,, so im a little confused , ohh the 5200 mhz is with 2 stick with x4 its 3600, but its strange so.etimes peoe can get their full ram speed sometimes not, maybe you know something about this?
My 7800x3d running 64gb of 6400mhz fine with default xmp3
Im pretty sure dram speed depends on mb also x670e plus said 128gb 6400 support on the page
@@mycelium1456 yea its all good my 6000 cl30 runs smooth as well , just had to update the bios, at start they had problems with that, but now its been completly fixed
@@inguspodnieks5040 true only prob I'm having is on restart or startup yellow dram light stays on for about 20 seconds turns off them red CPU light 5 sec white VGA 1 sec then green and boot. I've heard a lot of people say it's the CPU training the memory and they prob are right because I enabled that remember memory thing or whatever and instantly boots but I jus keep it off as some say brod pops but ima try reset cmos. I was so afraid one of my components was messed up and still kinda are but hell it works guess it is jus memory training every time
@@inguspodnieks5040 need upgrade bios also but jus got the board a week or so ago from bestbuy so should be fairly new lol
Be careful I got blue screen with this feature. I need to clear CMOS
Yeah not worth the risk and extra headaches.
i did absolute nothing change
i am thinking to change to dd5 but why so much booting time????????
On gigabyte motherboards after training it works perfect, loading is about 10 sec. While on my asus tuf b650m-plus it always in bios stuck with mcr and 1 minute load without. 64Gb DDR5 X-Flare 6000.
@@drreg2513mine goes yelloe dram 15-20 sec red cpu 5 sec vga white 1 sec then green then boot normal or you dong know? Asus tuf x670e plus 7800x3d
@@mycelium1456 yes, and yellow is about 50-60 sec every time.
damm went to 20 sec
aaand its bulging
oh you 😉
Chose amd for once and they’re making me realise why I never chose them before 😂
The problem is with YOU, not AMD. I have a full AMD system that runs circles around almost any Intel machine. And I have ZERO problems. My system runs buttery smooth. So it's not AMD. It's you...
@@AquaStevae okay buddy 😂
My system boots to Windows Desktop in 15 seconds.
MSI Mortar Titanium
Ryzen 9 5900X
32GB G.Skill Flare X Series DDR4 3200 MHz (CL14-14-14-34)
My old pc boot than your pc i only upgrade SSD 😂
Lol 15 seconds is windows xp era mate. This is fast to you?
Welcome to AM5. They’re insanely fast, but take a long time to boot.
@@HitmanXActual thats why i dont need no welcome to am5, ever. amd is just too incompetent. even intel takes 12 seconds at least to boot this gen, I'm sticking with 11th gen tbh its all you ever need for gaming anyways
@@najeebshah. Booting your machine once or twice a day thing for most of users. What else could you accomplish by saving 15 seconds? LOL. Most of the AM5 chips are still faster than Intel's latest 14th gen processors (can even outperform the 14900K). By enabling MCR, getting to the desktop in 15 seconds is still not a big deal.
It doesn't work for me, I updated the BIOS and this is worse 😱I have a 7950X3D and a ROG STRIX X670E mobo, what else could I do?
try disabling fast boot from bios.
not workin 4 me... become even slower... thats fukin crazy for pc that cost so much