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I don't know why it took so long for me to find an answer to this problem. I've searched far and long I've tried different settings through BIOS receding my ram multiple times testing the individual sticks. No answers until this video right here. Thank you very much! I've had this issue for just about 2 years now with no resolve until now.
You sir are a legend, just followed your video same motherboard 7950X CPU. Went from 70-80 second boot time to 30 seconds. With 64 GBs of RAM too! Holding steady so far!
@@mikesunboxing Hello, I have a ryzen 7700x, a motherboard like this. Last updated bios. It turns out that I have 4x16gb 6000mhz cl36 corsair vengance and out of nowhere my pc restarts by itself. What can I do to solve my problem? Sorry to bother you. Is it possible to make an undervolt video with maximum definitions in a build with the 7700x and the b650 Tomawank? Thanks for everything.
@@tiagoaugusto8258 I'm not very well informed too, but I read somewhere that you can't use 4 sticks of ram is this platform, it's simply not stable. I saw this in more than one source, that's why I bought 2x32gb instead. If you managed to solve your problem, please update us here.
You are my new hero ! My system is comprised of Asus ROG Hero X670E, Ryzen 7950x, DDR 5, 6000, 64 gb 4 dims, rtx 4090. My boot times were 60secs plus, and on expo 1 and 2 errors every 4 boots. Now my system is booting in 15 sec and you brought me back to 5950x boot times plus no errors !!!!! Thank you !
@@tasuperman8270 Advanced\AMB CBS\UMC Option\DDR Options\DDR Memory Features\Memory Context Restore\Enabled. It doesn't work for me though. BSOD. I have the EXACT same build as @raduardeleanu4800
Instant post on AM 5 here, made two changes: 1. Downgraded the ram using EXPO 1 on my motherboard, it allowed me to choose 5600 instead of 6000. I have seen a few benchies and the performance difference is very negligible. 2. Enabled memory training. The first time it was a slow post/boot, the second and hereafter it was instantaneous. I am in windows after about 5 seconds of pressing the power button.
Thank you, Mike! I've been struggling with my new build (Ryzen 7950x, TUF Gaming B650-Plus WiFi, 64gb TeamGroup DDR5-6400 ) boot time improved from a min and half to less then 10 sec! it's just mind-blowing. cheers!
This is legit went from 3 minutes to boot thinking something was seriously wrong with my PC a power issue or a faulty cpu or something but after this it went all the way down to legit 10 seconds to boot amazing thank you lol
Actually, if you enable MemoryContextRestore, you have to enable PowerDownEnable also to prevent BSOD. For Gigabyte board, they enable both MCR and PowerDownEnable by default, which is why Gigabyte board boots faster than Asus and others.
@@gman7949 - if you have an issue that I mentioned above, then you could try enable PowerDownEnable. I do not know what does PowerDown do but it somehow impact MCR.
@@mikesunboxing - Msi don't have this bug (but have many others especially with memory volltage and cpu soc expo profile:D)!, So in my case my DDR Setting/Power Down Enable is on ''auto'' i guess that is enable and i get 11,7 sec boot, win 10 fresh installed on samsung 990 pro and on control panel/power options/system setting/turn on fast startup(recomended) is enabled , and i do not believe that Gigabyte or Asus boot more faster in windows:D i was on 10 sec with older 5900x, and now with 7800X3D is at 11,7 sec so close enough i guess - And yes i noticed after you enable memory restore you have to shoot down pc and restat to take effect, only with restart not working. - And yes in case you enable EXPO don't forget to change cpu soc voltage to something between 1.1500V to 1.2500V max and cpu vddio voltage to something around max 1.2500V to/ and the VDDP and VDDG voltage(CCD00 and IOD00 voltage) with EXPO is at 1150 V but you can turn that by changing to ''auto'' if you want to get only 0.950 V max for vddg and vddp to, if you don't want you cpu ryzen to explode burn due to motherboard wrong voltage implemented in bios or memory controler:D - Another bug in bios is that after you enable EXPO that will write in other section of the bios on amd overclocking area, so even after you disable expo in that area the voltage is set = manual= 1150V instead of auto (0.950V) , cause if you disable expo they should be on auto on bouth area. - Another bug in that when if you want to change memory dram voltage that will change automaticaly the VVDQ and VDDIO voltage to the same value and will change VPP voltage to 1.9 V instead of 1.8V (what should be the max value) for no reason at all - Another bug in amd overcloking area is that even if you change the soc voltage value in first page OC setting but when u enter in amd overcloking area there soc_voltage is show 0 mV (mV not V) so i think is more safer to change the soc voltage there to to the same value you imput in the first page OC but on mV there not V(example : if you imput 1,800 V in the first page OC then on the other section am overcloking you should imput 1800( mV) instead of 0 what is write there) - And yes that is the last beta bios .162 where they say they fixed all voltage but is full of bugs to( expo work now at max 1.25V max i guess, but i'm not even try i'm better to imput my own lower voltage than auto):D Another good example of haw strange for no reason at all the Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master change the soc cpu voltage to something la 1.3V 1.4 V after you mess with expo profile or change something inside bios and was tested by Actually Hardcore Overclocking here(and i noticed something strange like that i told you before on the msi amd overclocking area bios to): ua-cam.com/video/O2n4rOWehtQ/v-deo.html
It works. Just simply works. My ryzen 9 pc was booting slow as f*** like 1:30 mins easily. Now It takes less than 20 Seconds Thanks man! You saved a PC
Man you helped me out even End 2024 - 1 year later! Coming from over 2 min to just 30sec booting time. Amazing. Specs: MSI B650S Wifi Ryzen 7500f Changes in BIOS: EXPO 1 MCR enabled Thanks!
Just upgraded to a B650 Edge Wifi, took around 1 minute and 20 seconds to boot before, sometimes longer, sometimes didnt post at all. After your fix, it now loads from completely shut down to Windows in 30 seconds! Still slower than my old AM4 motherboard, though. Remind me to never buy an MSI motherboard again😅
Hi mate, I’ve recently just got the msi b650 gaming plus WiFi, and I’m having to wait about a minute and half for it to boot and sometimes done get displays after changing stuff in bios. Spoke to someone and he thinks it’s trying to re train the memory every time it boots up, did doing this in the video help you?
Hey Mike, thank you again for your helpful videos. I happen to be running this same board which makes it even greater for me. Happy to report that I activated Expo profile 1 (6000MHz CL30) and enabled memory context restore and my bios time went from 77 seconds down to 14.7!!! Appreciate your help. Now time to give my PC some good usage to see if it's stable or not. On your video of how to flash the bios on this board you wished me that my build went well and it sure did! Currently writing this comment on my new build. 7800x3d, 32GB of RAM, 3080. Very happy with it so far. Thanks again, Mike
I have the problem once a week that my AMD5 System just won't boot... which I have since figured out. I just have to wait for minutes... eventually it just starts after everything is initzalized. I had always panicked before, turned the PC off and clared the CMOS and then just lived with standard RAM speeds. Thanks for the video, with Memory Context Restore enabled, it seems to be working with EXPO enabled again, at least for now.
@Orbs081 hey bro, do you have any issue that mike says in the video like blue screen, or other problems about ram's frequency. I have also msi mag b650 tomahawk, and my boot time is around 30-40 seconds without memory context restore and my rams' frequencies are 6000mhz. I am scared to mess up everything by enabling memory context restore.
This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels@@raxtwi
Hey i just found your video, i have a new pc with MSI b650 gaming + wifi motherboard and corsair Vengeance 32g ddr. I had an EXTREMELY long boot, over 1 minute before i even saw the MSI logo onscreen. I tried this fix and it changed the total pc boot to windows from +- 1 minute 30 seconds to 15-20 seconds boot to windows!
Thanks for this advice. I just tried it on my MSI PRO X670 board. It sped up reboots significantly: from about 70s to ~20s. But unfortunately it also made the system unstable - had a couple of hangs trying to get into different OSs so I put the setting back to auto. It's a shame because this board in particular takes way too long to reboot. Thankfully running Linux I don't have to do that too often!
Im late to the AM5 gang had this same issue with the ram training on every boot up. I did what you said, and it fixed my problem immediately . 🎉🎉🎉 ryzen 9 7950x3d x670e
Thank you. I believe we have the exact same MB. Boot times went from minutes to under 30 seconds. I had no idea it was the RAM that was causing the long boot. Also, MSI put out a new BIOS for our MB, 7D75V13 release 03-01-2023. I also had a strange problem with the video card (7900 XT) flickering or returning an error AND another error where launching a program, notably VLC player, would semi-hang the system (where active programs were fine, but nothing new would open for several seconds). I did two things that has clearly solved this problem: 1) updated to the aforementioned BIOS release. 2) after ensuring the stability of the new BIOS flash, Disabled an integrated Graphics setting in the BIOS. I read somewhere that you should leave the integrated graphics running for some reason or another, but I thought... why not? If it doesn't work I'll just revert the setting. Well, I disabled the integrated graphics after updating the BIOS and now everything goes fast. Hope this helps someone.
I definitely will be sticking with AM4 for a couple more years - just got Ryzen 5800X3D so will keep that one going and get maximum value from that. Very informative video though.
Great vid, worked for me, I have the MSI b650 gaming plus wifi with 7800x3d and 2x16 6000 mhz corsair ram. Boot time went from 150 sec to 12 sec. No bluescreens so far.
I don't know why but when I boot up my PC. Both the red cpu light and yellow ram light light up for a few seconds and then they dissappear while the pc is brand new and runs normally
You forgot to mention the other Memory Context Restore as there are two of the little sods. Second location is in Advanced / AMD CBS / UMC Common Options / DDR Memory Features. Setting both of these to enable will bring post/boot times down to that of AM4, providing you have Expo 1 enabled and not 2.
Went from 76.6 to 36.6 seconds just by updating to the beta MSI bios; it worked for my friend too, although we have almost the same components. I'm fine with that, but if that reduced it by so much, I bet this one would lower it to around 20, although I don't need it so I'm fine without
MSI MPG X670E Carbon with a 7900x with 32GB of T-Force Delta RGB DDR5 6000.. Boot times 15 seconds .. SOLID and stable! My extensive research paid off!
I also have the MSI MPG X670E Carbon, a 7900X and 32GB of G.Skill 6000. Could you post your bios settings + what bios version please ? Did you enable EXPO ? Are you running your ram at 6000 ? Thanks
I think both AMD and MB manufacturers are to blame here. AMD for releasing several bad AGESA versions that manufacturers naturally skip and motherboard manufacturers for not prioritizing BIOS updates on budget boards.
Just a heads up. I Tried this and it wouldnt load bios or windows. I tried resetting cmos with no luck. I had to remove the ram , then just insert 1 into slot 2. Then, reset to default optimization. Insert the other ram back in and i was good to go. Just in case anyone else had the same issue.
I just bought an MSI B650 Tomahawk Wifi and I got a lot of BSOD and UEFI crashes. I almost sent everything back and changed to INTEL. It turned out that in the bios the MemoryContextRestore was enabled but *PowerDownEnable* was not. Why is this allowed at all MSI and why this is the default setting? I read that Gigabyte bind these two options...
@Mike's unboxing, reviews and how to tell me about it! Not only that, but my monitor is falling asleep at boot up too. 26-37 sec boot time is unacceptable!!
@@danielwells1734mine can take Hours and Gigabyte has not been Helpful at all when I hit the Power Button I just get a Light Blinking Between CPU and DRAM
I dont know if i should I send my Mobo back, i have the same one tomahawk, everyone says that I should wait for the new bios updates. But i dont know 🥲
@reinulf656 just bought same mobo and as a not so tech savy guy seeing my motherboard give off lights worries me at start even if all it's doing is retraining ram I mean with ddr 4 you click a button and you're OK fast boot times everything
If it crashes on boot with memory context restore enabled it's because you have to have low power mode enabled in memory settings. They both have to be enabled together for some reason to have it work properly. Newer bios should automatically enable low power mode when you enable memory context restore but who knows what is still screwed up on this mess of a platform.
@Oletta Liano. The Gigabyte boards likely skip DDR5 training after initial setup and possibly re-train if new modules are detected, as it should be IF this is the case. So Mike's doing a service here to MSI people. Dumping MSI for Gigabyte is NEVER the solution 😆At least not yet. Asus B650 = Trash. ASRock looking good on AM5 quality wise. Good stuff Mike.
@@reinulf656 they are not trash someone had the specs for those boards before they came out with some really bad vrms but they turned out to be much better than what that person listed Jesus is overpriced but I still think you're fine with any of the four big motherboard brands
I noticed the video is focused on MSI motherboards, and I’m using an ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI. Would you consider creating a similar guide for ASUS ROG STRIX users? There’s a lot of us out there looking for the same performance boost for our boards, and I’m sure your tips would be incredibly helpful for us too! 🤞 Thanks so much for all the awesome content, and I look forward to any tips you can share for ASUS boards! 💻🔥
the principle is the same for a motherboards just the layout might differ. If you have difficulty finding the items on your specific board drop in the discord and we can try and guide you
Hey Mike. Did I just see a blue screen on your first boot after changing this setting? 2:37 in. I am new to AM5 and when I first noticed a slow boot I was thinking it may have been a MSI issue or a fault with my board but based on what I have seen online it is impacting almost all AM5 boards. I am not willing to enable memory context restore as many others are saying blue screen issues.
@@mikesunboxing I’ve just disabled EXPO and it is fine now. Default ram speed for my ram is 4800 and the EXPO speed is 5200. I did some geekbench and cinebench benchmarking and there is very little difference.
@@gman7949 Did you fix the issue with EXPO ON? I have the same issue but with EXPO OFF its 4800 but with Expo on it becomes 5600 but the boot time increases by 20 seconds
did not work for me brand new pc with b650 toma/ 7800x3d 40S from pressing power button to windows.. and my 10 year old pc starts in less than 10 seconds
Speccing my first gaming PC (Mac user of 15+ years)... I was initially considering a cheaper AM4 build because why not...but I'm now starting to look at the current gen as I've slowly dialled in the overall cost and budget. I'm now just discovering this boot time issue with the AM5 platform...what on earth? 60 seconds to boot? This is supposed to be current tech? I'm tired of PCs already
@@mikesunboxing Thanks, good to know. I realise I will have to get used to the inevitable snags that occur when building and maintaining your own setup. And I guess this is all part of the fun! Have been spoiled by Apple for too long I know My Macbook will always be on hand when things go pear shaped haha
Paying for the latest technology comes with a promise, but I guess this is an example of how it is not forward-thinking; instead, it seems to take us backward while being expensive.
If you have a dedicated video card you can try disabling the integrated video card, for me the boot time got shortened by about 5 seconds, not much but better than nothing.
Great video! I recently built a high-end gaming PC, and everything is running perfectly so far. My only issue is a boot time of over a minute. I’ve seen some comments suggesting enabling ‘memory power down’ along with ‘memory context store’ to avoid BSOD issues. Is this necessary? If so, where can I find the option to enable memory power down?
I tried to find ‘memory power down’ in the search bar, but it seems it’s actually listed as ‘power down enable.’ Is this the option I was looking for, or did I make a mistake by enabling ‘power down enable’?
It worked. at first it used to take about 42 sec. after enabling it, first two boots took more than 47 sec and after that it's taking only about 17 sec. In asus b650e-f motherboard with 7700 and 32gb of 6000mhz
in theory it shouldn't and the correct behaviour is for the motherboard to use the last known good boot settings, but seems a lot of boards need bios updates to get this working as intended
And here I am in the end of 2024, trying to find a solution for this issue… the platform has been out for 2 years, yet the slow boot time is still a problem. Wish I was told about this by the reviewers advertising the 7800x3d as the best cpu for gaming (before the 983d came out)
@ will try everything today, and I have 1 bios update pending. I just thought they’d fix this with bios updates eventually. My bios is dated July 2024, but the issue is still there, so it doesn’t seem the boot time is going to be fixed once and for all with bios updates, and we still have to do this manually using the settings you’ve shown. Hopefully this will work for me 🤞🏻 Thank you very much for your response!
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I don't know why it took so long for me to find an answer to this problem. I've searched far and long I've tried different settings through BIOS receding my ram multiple times testing the individual sticks. No answers until this video right here. Thank you very much! I've had this issue for just about 2 years now with no resolve until now.
Also for anyone is wondering, I have the ASUS ROG STRIX B650-A GAMING WIFI motherboard. So this issue is not just specific to MSI.
also make sure to enable memory power down as well
Where i can find the memory power down please@@mikesunboxing
You sir are a legend, just followed your video same motherboard 7950X CPU. Went from 70-80 second boot time to 30 seconds. With 64 GBs of RAM too! Holding steady so far!
awesome glad to hear it
Wait, what?? I was considering a AMD build and you're saying the best it can do is 30sec?
@@mikesunboxing Hello, I have a ryzen 7700x, a motherboard like this. Last updated bios. It turns out that I have 4x16gb 6000mhz cl36 corsair vengance and out of nowhere my pc restarts by itself. What can I do to solve my problem? Sorry to bother you. Is it possible to make an undervolt video with maximum definitions in a build with the 7700x and the b650 Tomawank? Thanks for everything.
@@tiagoaugusto8258 I'm not very well informed too, but I read somewhere that you can't use 4 sticks of ram is this platform, it's simply not stable. I saw this in more than one source, that's why I bought 2x32gb instead. If you managed to solve your problem, please update us here.
Restart is 100sec now with disabled 😢
Thank you so much Mike!
Boot time improved from 80-90 seconds to 22 seconds for me.
Subscribed Sir!
Welcome aboard!
минута ,две ,какая разница ? разве это так долго? можно вообще в спящий режим отправлять компьютер если вам так важно сесть за компьютер и работать
You are my new hero !
My system is comprised of Asus ROG Hero X670E, Ryzen 7950x, DDR 5, 6000, 64 gb 4 dims, rtx 4090.
My boot times were 60secs plus, and on expo 1 and 2 errors every 4 boots.
Now my system is booting in 15 sec and you brought me back to 5950x boot times plus no errors !!!!!
Thank you !
awesome glad it helped
Do you have expo still enabled?
where in the asus bios did u go to change the setting? I can't seem to find it.
@@tasuperman8270 Advanced\AMB CBS\UMC Option\DDR Options\DDR Memory Features\Memory Context Restore\Enabled. It doesn't work for me though. BSOD. I have the EXACT same build as @raduardeleanu4800
What kind of errors were you running into?
Instant post on AM 5 here, made two changes:
1. Downgraded the ram using EXPO 1 on my motherboard, it allowed me to choose 5600 instead of 6000. I have seen a few benchies and the performance difference is very negligible.
2. Enabled memory training.
The first time it was a slow post/boot, the second and hereafter it was instantaneous. I am in windows after about 5 seconds of pressing the power button.
5 seconds is amazing. Can I ask what mobo and Ram brand and specs are ?
5 seconds? Can I ask what specs you have?
how to enable memory training?
@@ai1603 He just showed you how to disable it in the video so how to enable it shouldnt be that hard to understand mate.
Taket 30 sec untill i get a boot screen
Thank you, Mike! I've been struggling with my new build (Ryzen 7950x, TUF Gaming B650-Plus WiFi, 64gb TeamGroup DDR5-6400 ) boot time improved from a min and half to less then 10 sec! it's just mind-blowing.
cheers!
glad it helped!
did you experiencing any blue screen of death? or crash? is it safe to do so?
Went from 1 to 2 minutes to about 30 seconds I’ve been looking for this fix for like a year now thank you very much
glad it helped
Thank you. My brand new MSI AMD Ryzen 9 7900x was driving me crazy with the slow boot up times. Your video instructions fix my problem.
glad it helped
You're a legend man! Thank you so much! I went from my booting times being 2 mins+ to less than 10 seconds! New suscriber for sure!
Thanks for the sub!
I went from 45s to 9.5 seconds with this setting on my 7950x 64gb, thank you very much.
wow that is impressive. nice one
This is legit went from 3 minutes to boot thinking something was seriously wrong with my PC a power issue or a faulty cpu or something but after this it went all the way down to legit 10 seconds to boot amazing thank you lol
glad it helped
Ty so much mate. Went from 2:30 to at least 0:44 boot time. The hint i needed.❤
Almost a year and MSI still didnt fix this.
it is better than it was, and manually entering the XMP speeds makes it much quicker
It's kinda fixed now, went from 70 seconds boot to 40 seconds with RCM disabled and with RCM enabled around 12 seconds
@@RmX.What bios version you have mate?
Still same today.. Even after your comment
Currently using an x670 Carbon wifi motherboard.
This method lowered my boot up time from 52.8 secondes, to 19.9 Seconds. Thank you!
Glad it helped
@@mikesunboxing mine is disabled too but boot takes 1minute and when enable it crash always gives BSOD.
Actually, if you enable MemoryContextRestore, you have to enable PowerDownEnable also to prevent BSOD.
For Gigabyte board, they enable both MCR and PowerDownEnable by default, which is why Gigabyte board boots faster than Asus and others.
thanks for the info, i'll look into that
@@mikesunboxing does this work? power down+memory context enabled?
I have a MSI board so if I enable MCR and PowerDownEnable at the same time it should be stable?
What does PoweDownEnable do?
@@gman7949 - if you have an issue that I mentioned above, then you could try enable PowerDownEnable.
I do not know what does PowerDown do but it somehow impact MCR.
@@mikesunboxing - Msi don't have this bug (but have many others especially with memory volltage and cpu soc expo profile:D)!,
So in my case my DDR Setting/Power Down Enable is on ''auto'' i guess that is enable and i get 11,7 sec boot, win 10 fresh installed on samsung 990 pro and on control panel/power options/system setting/turn on fast startup(recomended) is enabled , and i do not believe that Gigabyte or Asus boot more faster in windows:D i was on 10 sec with older 5900x, and now with 7800X3D is at 11,7 sec so close enough i guess
- And yes i noticed after you enable memory restore you have to shoot down pc and restat to take effect, only with restart not working.
- And yes in case you enable EXPO don't forget to change cpu soc voltage to something between 1.1500V to 1.2500V max and cpu vddio voltage to something around max 1.2500V to/ and the VDDP and VDDG voltage(CCD00 and IOD00 voltage) with EXPO is at 1150 V but you can turn that by changing to ''auto'' if you want to get only 0.950 V max for vddg and vddp to, if you don't want you cpu ryzen to explode burn due to motherboard wrong voltage implemented in bios or memory controler:D
- Another bug in bios is that after you enable EXPO that will write in other section of the bios on amd overclocking area, so even after you disable expo in that area the voltage is set = manual= 1150V instead of auto (0.950V) , cause if you disable expo they should be on auto on bouth area.
- Another bug in that when if you want to change memory dram voltage that will change automaticaly the VVDQ and VDDIO voltage to the same value and will change VPP voltage to 1.9 V instead of 1.8V (what should be the max value) for no reason at all
- Another bug in amd overcloking area is that even if you change the soc voltage value in first page OC setting but when u enter in amd overcloking area there soc_voltage is show 0 mV (mV not V) so i think is more safer to change the soc voltage there to to the same value you imput in the first page OC but on mV there not V(example : if you imput 1,800 V in the first page OC then on the other section am overcloking you should imput 1800( mV) instead of 0 what is write there)
- And yes that is the last beta bios .162 where they say they fixed all voltage but is full of bugs to( expo work now at max 1.25V max i guess, but i'm not even try i'm better to imput my own lower voltage than auto):D
Another good example of haw strange for no reason at all the Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master change the soc cpu voltage to something la 1.3V 1.4 V after you mess with expo profile or change something inside bios and was tested by Actually Hardcore Overclocking here(and i noticed something strange like that i told you before on the msi amd overclocking area bios to):
ua-cam.com/video/O2n4rOWehtQ/v-deo.html
I was at around 2 minutes and 30 seconds to boot to lockscreen now im at 36 seconds. Bless this man.
thank you
@@mikesunboxing pls do the msi b650m gaming plus wifi with mcr and pd enabled for latest bios
Went from a consistent 73s to 13.5s after enabling MCR on MSI B650M-A WIFI.
7800x3D
32gb 6000 XMP Enabled
Thank you sir!!
Glad it worked out for you
Did you enable memory power down too?
I bet that over time this video is referenced a LOT !
yeah DDR5 boot times are horrible right now for AMD
right
@@mikesunboxing still same issue... After newest bios
Thank you so much! I went from 50s to 20s boot time. The boot time was the only thing that bothered my on the AM5 platform.
glad it helped, the newer bios versions are making an impact as well
Thanks for the advice. I was not even aware of that setting.
No worries!
It works. Just simply works. My ryzen 9 pc was booting slow as f*** like 1:30 mins easily. Now It takes less than 20 Seconds
Thanks man! You saved a PC
glad it helped you
Thank you, previously the wait time was around 2.5 minutes and after this settings change now the boot time is reduced to 12-15 seconds
Thank you
Thank you for this, I couldn't find information on this memory training BS anywhere, this reduced my boot times from
Glad it helped!
I went from 70 seconds for the BIOS to 14sec !
Thank you !!
glad it helped
Man you helped me out even End 2024 - 1 year later! Coming from over 2 min to just 30sec booting time. Amazing.
Specs:
MSI B650S Wifi
Ryzen 7500f
Changes in BIOS:
EXPO 1
MCR enabled
Thanks!
nice setup
Just upgraded to a B650 Edge Wifi, took around 1 minute and 20 seconds to boot before, sometimes longer, sometimes didnt post at all. After your fix, it now loads from completely shut down to Windows in 30 seconds! Still slower than my old AM4 motherboard, though. Remind me to never buy an MSI motherboard again😅
Hi mate, I’ve recently just got the msi b650 gaming plus WiFi, and I’m having to wait about a minute and half for it to boot and sometimes done get displays after changing stuff in bios. Spoke to someone and he thinks it’s trying to re train the memory every time it boots up, did doing this in the video help you?
@@xZymicc Just turn on memory context restore on, if u will have blue screens, turn on power down on enable.
Hey Mike, thank you again for your helpful videos. I happen to be running this same board which makes it even greater for me. Happy to report that I activated Expo profile 1 (6000MHz CL30) and enabled memory context restore and my bios time went from 77 seconds down to 14.7!!! Appreciate your help. Now time to give my PC some good usage to see if it's stable or not. On your video of how to flash the bios on this board you wished me that my build went well and it sure did! Currently writing this comment on my new build. 7800x3d, 32GB of RAM, 3080. Very happy with it so far. Thanks again, Mike
Glad it all worked out for you
This worked perfectly for me. Thanks!! My old startup time was 70 seconds, and the new startup Time was 16 seconds!! Tysm!
You're welcome! glad it helped
I LOVE YOU!!! i was struggling since I build my pc ( month ago) and now you fixed that, thank youu
Glad I could help!
I have the problem once a week that my AMD5 System just won't boot... which I have since figured out. I just have to wait for minutes... eventually it just starts after everything is initzalized. I had always panicked before, turned the PC off and clared the CMOS and then just lived with standard RAM speeds.
Thanks for the video, with Memory Context Restore enabled, it seems to be working with EXPO enabled again, at least for now.
glad it helped. Also try turning on memory power down enable
@@mikesunboxing I'm afraid my cheap ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 doesn't have this function.
It should have somewhere ?
i appreciate your videos, they've helped me alot with my new system. This gives me an instant post now with the setting changed.
glad to hear it
Thanks Mike much faster now. I have the Msi b650 and 32g ddr5. you got my subcribtion.
Thanks for the sub!
@Orbs081 hey bro, do you have any issue that mike says in the video like blue screen, or other problems about ram's frequency. I have also msi mag b650 tomahawk, and my boot time is around 30-40 seconds without memory context restore and my rams' frequencies are 6000mhz. I am scared to mess up everything by enabling memory context restore.
This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu
Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels@@raxtwi
I did what Mike said in the Video and everything is running good no blue screens. Memory Ï got is Trident Z5 neo rgb. 16g x2. @@raxtwi
THANK YOU. I did this and also updated my BIOS and my BIOS-time went from 35s to 9.5s.
great result
Hey i just found your video, i have a new pc with MSI b650 gaming + wifi motherboard and corsair Vengeance 32g ddr.
I had an EXTREMELY long boot, over 1 minute before i even saw the MSI logo onscreen.
I tried this fix and it changed the total pc boot to windows from +- 1 minute 30 seconds to 15-20 seconds boot to windows!
that is a pretty good result, nice one
do you use expo to overclock your ram??
Thanks for this advice. I just tried it on my MSI PRO X670 board. It sped up reboots significantly: from about 70s to ~20s. But unfortunately it also made the system unstable - had a couple of hangs trying to get into different OSs so I put the setting back to auto. It's a shame because this board in particular takes way too long to reboot. Thankfully running Linux I don't have to do that too often!
yeah it is rather hit and miss, seems the newer BIOSes help
@@mikesunboxing BIOSes for my board seem to be in a constant state of beta release. It's not very encouraging.
@@treyquattro what brand of board are using?
@@mikesunboxing I saw yours bluescreen also at 2:37 in.
@@gman7949 MSI
Im late to the AM5 gang had this same issue with the ram training on every boot up. I did what you said, and it fixed my problem immediately
. 🎉🎉🎉 ryzen 9 7950x3d x670e
glad it helped
Thank you. I believe we have the exact same MB. Boot times went from minutes to under 30 seconds. I had no idea it was the RAM that was causing the long boot. Also, MSI put out a new BIOS for our MB, 7D75V13 release 03-01-2023.
I also had a strange problem with the video card (7900 XT) flickering or returning an error AND another error where launching a program, notably VLC player, would semi-hang the system (where active programs were fine, but nothing new would open for several seconds). I did two things that has clearly solved this problem: 1) updated to the aforementioned BIOS release. 2) after ensuring the stability of the new BIOS flash, Disabled an integrated Graphics setting in the BIOS. I read somewhere that you should leave the integrated graphics running for some reason or another, but I thought... why not? If it doesn't work I'll just revert the setting. Well, I disabled the integrated graphics after updating the BIOS and now everything goes fast. Hope this helps someone.
thanks i'll give it a go although i think mine is disabled already
I also have the exact same MB, but the DRAM light stays on during this process. I didn’t notice that it eventually POSTs until recently
@@robbcabaian I have a Asus tuf b650-M Plus and the dram light stays on when booting until It boots. I guess is this memory training
It works! Thanks man, love u
You're welcome!
Reduced my boot time from 37 seconds to 8! Thanks 🙏
holy cow! that is very impressive!
I definitely will be sticking with AM4 for a couple more years - just got Ryzen 5800X3D so will keep that one going and get maximum value from that. Very informative video though.
Good choice! the 5800X3D is a fantastic chip
3800x3d?
@@mikejones2588 That's a typo should read 5800X3D - I will edit thanks 😀
@@mikejones2588 Should've read 5800X3D 😀
Paid money for crosshair 670e extreme to have 79 second boot times with 2 sticks 32gb each very nice
My first day getting new pc. Thank you for this. From 140s to 20s
excellent result
Love that you always help me out cuz u are the one doing those niche Videos. Whenever i research my issues sooner or later i find ur videos xD
Happy to help!
Great vid, worked for me, I have the MSI b650 gaming plus wifi with 7800x3d and 2x16 6000 mhz corsair ram.
Boot time went from 150 sec to 12 sec. No bluescreens so far.
Excellent results
do you overclock your ram while doing this?
fixed my boot time problem, went from ~ 45 sec to instant. Thank you
It really works, 50 sec boot time now is only 14 sec. Problem was to find memory context restore setting for asus x670e-e MB.
My boot time went from 77 seconds to 17.5 seconds after doing this 🤯
Thanks so much 🙏
You're welcome!
Thanks, still helped a year later for 7800x3d/msi b650, tforce ram. 3 minute boots down to 27 seconds now with expo.
good result
Thanks a lot
I waited like 3-5 minutes in every time i start my pc
And now its only 20 seconds 🔥🔥❤
That is a good result
wow, i went from 1:35mins to 20 secs!!! thanks man
that is pretty impressive
thumbs up for the blue screen
Thx so much! From 42s to 16s 💪
Nice work!
For Asus it's under AI tweaker / dram timing control / memory context restore, near the bottom
thanks
I don't see it I have a asus z790 e gaming wifi mobo
@@tasuperman8270 that's an Intel board, this might be only for amd
Went from 90 seconds to ~22. THANK YOU
that is pretty decent
work perfect ;-) MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI. THANKS SO MUCH!!!!
gla to help
Thank you so much for the info. Helped a lot.
Glad it was helpful!
I don't know why but when I boot up my PC. Both the red cpu light and yellow ram light light up for a few seconds and then they dissappear while the pc is brand new and runs normally
that is very normal
@@mikesunboxing after I enabled the ram context thingy the yellow and red only light up for half a second and then a white one
Is that part of POST or systems check? @@mikesunboxing
Thanks for sharing Mike and Kath 👍
Thanks for watching!
You forgot to mention the other Memory Context Restore as there are two of the little sods. Second location is in Advanced / AMD CBS / UMC Common Options / DDR Memory Features. Setting both of these to enable will bring post/boot times down to that of AM4, providing you have Expo 1 enabled and not 2.
I followed the video, had the problems booting, hit the cmos and added what you mentioned. Now booting in 30 seconds. Thank you both!!!
what motherboard are u using? i don’t see it, have the same mb as in the video..
@@jelle. Asus ROG B650i-e wifi
Went from 76.6 to 36.6 seconds just by updating to the beta MSI bios; it worked for my friend too, although we have almost the same components. I'm fine with that, but if that reduced it by so much, I bet this one would lower it to around 20, although I don't need it so I'm fine without
MSI MPG X670E Carbon with a 7900x with 32GB of T-Force Delta RGB DDR5 6000.. Boot times 15 seconds .. SOLID and stable! My extensive research paid off!
that is bloody fast
I also have the MSI MPG X670E Carbon, a 7900X and 32GB of G.Skill 6000. Could you post your bios settings + what bios version please ? Did you enable EXPO ? Are you running your ram at 6000 ? Thanks
@@seroxat30i.have problem when turn on expo make slow and post code 15 so sad Mobo carbon x670e and 7800x3d
Thank you! Went from 166.9 seconds to 10.9 seconds 🙏🙏🙏
wow that is pretty impressive
I think both AMD and MB manufacturers are to blame here. AMD for releasing several bad AGESA versions that manufacturers naturally skip and motherboard manufacturers for not prioritizing BIOS updates on budget boards.
I dont think so, you need to tweak the setting my bro. If you want fast booting and cpu performance and gpu increase GPU PLL and CPU PLL
Thanks! This worked perfectly.
glad it helped
Just a heads up. I Tried this and it wouldnt load bios or windows. I tried resetting cmos with no luck. I had to remove the ram , then just insert 1 into slot 2. Then, reset to default optimization. Insert the other ram back in and i was good to go. Just in case anyone else had the same issue.
damn what caused that?
@@Haddley333 no idea. This is the first pc I built.
I just bought an MSI B650 Tomahawk Wifi and I got a lot of BSOD and UEFI crashes. I almost sent everything back and changed to INTEL. It turned out that in the bios the MemoryContextRestore was enabled but *PowerDownEnable* was not. Why is this allowed at all MSI and why this is the default setting? I read that Gigabyte bind these two options...
It seems that MSI has the most problems with AM5 of all board manufacturers... Very sad
This saved me. I just got an MSI b650 carbon wifi and had slow boots coming over from an intel MB with
How the hell are these new systems so much slower then our old platforms. For the money they are asking ffs
yeah it is really frustrating
@Mike's unboxing, reviews and how to tell me about it! Not only that, but my monitor is falling asleep at boot up too. 26-37 sec boot time is unacceptable!!
@@danielwells1734mine can take Hours and Gigabyte has not been Helpful at all when I hit the Power Button I just get a Light Blinking Between CPU and DRAM
@@danielwells1734those are normal numbers tho for boot times
On die ecc is the problem
Works great thank you
I have the same moba. And when I do this I also get crash. I think we have nothing but wait for MSI to fix this problem with bios updates.
I dont know if i should I send my Mobo back, i have the same one tomahawk, everyone says that I should wait for the new bios updates. But i dont know 🥲
@@D0GLSwhat did you do? Did it get better?
@reinulf656 just bought same mobo and as a not so tech savy guy seeing my motherboard give off lights worries me at start even if all it's doing is retraining ram I mean with ddr 4 you click a button and you're OK fast boot times everything
If it crashes on boot with memory context restore enabled it's because you have to have low power mode enabled in memory settings. They both have to be enabled together for some reason to have it work properly. Newer bios should automatically enable low power mode when you enable memory context restore but who knows what is still screwed up on this mess of a platform.
Great Video! Thanks, very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Thnx mate , went from 51sec to 13.6
Nice work!
@Oletta Liano. The Gigabyte boards likely skip DDR5 training after initial setup and possibly re-train if new modules are detected, as it should be IF this is the case. So Mike's doing a service here to MSI people. Dumping MSI for Gigabyte is NEVER the solution 😆At least not yet. Asus B650 = Trash. ASRock looking good on AM5 quality wise. Good stuff Mike.
thanks james
In which way is Asus trash for B650? I'm uncertain which board to get...
@@reinulf656 they are not trash someone had the specs for those boards before they came out with some really bad vrms but they turned out to be much better than what that person listed Jesus is overpriced but I still think you're fine with any of the four big motherboard brands
I noticed the video is focused on MSI motherboards, and I’m using an ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI. Would you consider creating a similar guide for ASUS ROG STRIX users? There’s a lot of us out there looking for the same performance boost for our boards, and I’m sure your tips would be incredibly helpful for us too! 🤞
Thanks so much for all the awesome content, and I look forward to any tips you can share for ASUS boards! 💻🔥
the principle is the same for a motherboards just the layout might differ. If you have difficulty finding the items on your specific board drop in the discord and we can try and guide you
nice, worked like a charm
Glad it helped
Hi,
Before of this video my new pc was taking 2 mins and 46 secs. After it takes 21 seconds! Thx for your help.
Glad it helped!
Hey Mike. Did I just see a blue screen on your first boot after changing this setting? 2:37 in. I am new to AM5 and when I first noticed a slow boot I was thinking it may have been a MSI issue or a fault with my board but based on what I have seen online it is impacting almost all AM5 boards. I am not willing to enable memory context restore as many others are saying blue screen issues.
yes the ddr5 on a lot of boards with expo is fussy, bios updates seem to be helping
@@mikesunboxing I’ve just disabled EXPO and it is fine now.
Default ram speed for my ram is 4800 and the EXPO speed is 5200. I did some geekbench and cinebench benchmarking and there is very little difference.
@@gman7949 Did you fix the issue with EXPO ON? I have the same issue but with EXPO OFF its 4800 but with Expo on it becomes 5600 but the boot time increases by 20 seconds
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good afternoon sir, how are we doing today
@@mikesunboxing Thanks good & yourself Sire ??? 😀
@@WilliamAPBodie not bad, could do with a snooze though 😂
@@mikesunboxing I alway sleep 10 to 12 hours from Sunday to Monday. some times even 15 hours. well we have to at old age 😅😂🤣
@@WilliamAPBodie Agreed!
did not work for me brand new pc with b650 toma/ 7800x3d 40S from pressing power button to windows.. and my 10 year old pc starts in less than 10 seconds
sorry to hear that
Try to update the BIOS, it worked for me, b650 tomahawk, ryzen 7 7700, 64 Gb Corsair with XMP on, now it powers up instantly
You helped me a lot !!!!!! Thank You
Glad I could help!
Speccing my first gaming PC (Mac user of 15+ years)...
I was initially considering a cheaper AM4 build because why not...but I'm now starting to look at the current gen as I've slowly dialled in the overall cost and budget.
I'm now just discovering this boot time issue with the AM5 platform...what on earth? 60 seconds to boot? This is supposed to be current tech?
I'm tired of PCs already
with the newer bios revisions this is becoming less of a drag,in time it will be as quick if not quicker than DDR4
@@mikesunboxing Thanks, good to know.
I realise I will have to get used to the inevitable snags that occur when building and maintaining your own setup. And I guess this is all part of the fun!
Have been spoiled by Apple for too long I know
My Macbook will always be on hand when things go pear shaped haha
Nice tutorial. It worked
Glad it helped
It helped a lot, thanks
Glad it helped
Paying for the latest technology comes with a promise, but I guess this is an example of how it is not forward-thinking; instead, it seems to take us backward while being expensive.
Thank you, it did worked!
You're welcome!
Thanx man i tried that one and its wery fast like 4 or 5 second ❤
Glad I could help
Thank you very much my pc was taking 2 minutes to boot up now its 15 secs
that is quite impressive
If you have a dedicated video card you can try disabling the integrated video card, for me the boot time got shortened by about 5 seconds, not much but better than nothing.
every little helps
how do you disable this in the bios? I can't find it in the MSI settings.
@@Bluelemonzz "Settings\Advanced\Integrated Graphics Configuration\Integrated Graphics".
You must change this from "UMA Auto" to "Disabled"
Skip to 1:10
OMG manny thanks, works!
Great video! I recently built a high-end gaming PC, and everything is running perfectly so far. My only issue is a boot time of over a minute. I’ve seen some comments suggesting enabling ‘memory power down’ along with ‘memory context store’ to avoid BSOD issues. Is this necessary? If so, where can I find the option to enable memory power down?
most modern BIOS have a search box, so just start typing memory context and it should appear, also look to enable memory power down
@@mikesunboxing Cheers 🍻
I tried to find ‘memory power down’ in the search bar, but it seems it’s actually listed as ‘power down enable.’ Is this the option I was looking for, or did I make a mistake by enabling ‘power down enable’?
Why is there blue screen after u enabled the memory context restore?
it didn't like the previous memory training settings, and the motherboard ended up being returned not long after
It worked. at first it used to take about 42 sec. after enabling it, first two boots took more than 47 sec and after that it's taking only about 17 sec. In asus b650e-f motherboard with 7700 and 32gb of 6000mhz
awesome! glad it worked
Thanks for this, mine won't go to sleep!
Glad I could help!
I confirm, it works. Thank you
You're welcome!
My old ddr4 pc turns on in like less than 10 seconds, I just bought a new ddr5 pc spent like 15k and it takes FOREVER to turn on!!!!!
hopefully this will make it faster
Thank you very much!
You're welcome!
hey mike, thx for the video cause this made my pc boot from 50-60 sec to 25-30 sec ^^
glad the video helped me you
You did not mention that windows can crash on boot, exactly like on your PC.
in theory it shouldn't and the correct behaviour is for the motherboard to use the last known good boot settings, but seems a lot of boards need bios updates to get this working as intended
And here I am in the end of 2024, trying to find a solution for this issue… the platform has been out for 2 years, yet the slow boot time is still a problem. Wish I was told about this by the reviewers advertising the 7800x3d as the best cpu for gaming (before the 983d came out)
is yours still slow booting after the things in the video? and also try enable memory power down
@ will try everything today, and I have 1 bios update pending. I just thought they’d fix this with bios updates eventually. My bios is dated July 2024, but the issue is still there, so it doesn’t seem the boot time is going to be fixed once and for all with bios updates, and we still have to do this manually using the settings you’ve shown. Hopefully this will work for me 🤞🏻
Thank you very much for your response!