How To Speed Up Slow AMD DDR5 Boot Times
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How to speed up slow AMD DDR5 Boot times
Some DDR5 systems take so long to boot into windows due to the system constantly trying to retrain the RAMs timings and that is a real pain, but it can be disabled to make your system boot almost as fast as DDR4 systems with a quick change of a simple BIOS setting.
This video shows the MSI version using the MSI B650 Tomahawk WiFi but should be similar across various manufacturers and platforms.
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Instant post on AM 5 here, made two changes:
1. Downgraded the ram using EXPO 1 on my motherboard, it allowed me to choose 5600 instead of 6000. I have seen a few benchies and the performance difference is very negligible.
2. Enabled memory training.
The first time it was a slow post/boot, the second and hereafter it was instantaneous. I am in windows after about 5 seconds of pressing the power button.
5 seconds is amazing. Can I ask what mobo and Ram brand and specs are ?
5 seconds? Can I ask what specs you have?
how to enable memory training?
@@ai1603 He just showed you how to disable it in the video so how to enable it shouldnt be that hard to understand mate.
Taket 30 sec untill i get a boot screen
Thank you so much Mike!
Boot time improved from 80-90 seconds to 22 seconds for me.
Subscribed Sir!
Welcome aboard!
You are my new hero !
My system is comprised of Asus ROG Hero X670E, Ryzen 7950x, DDR 5, 6000, 64 gb 4 dims, rtx 4090.
My boot times were 60secs plus, and on expo 1 and 2 errors every 4 boots.
Now my system is booting in 15 sec and you brought me back to 5950x boot times plus no errors !!!!!
Thank you !
awesome glad it helped
Do you have expo still enabled?
where in the asus bios did u go to change the setting? I can't seem to find it.
@@tasuperman8270 Advanced\AMB CBS\UMC Option\DDR Options\DDR Memory Features\Memory Context Restore\Enabled. It doesn't work for me though. BSOD. I have the EXACT same build as @raduardeleanu4800
What kind of errors were you running into?
You sir are a legend, just followed your video same motherboard 7950X CPU. Went from 70-80 second boot time to 30 seconds. With 64 GBs of RAM too! Holding steady so far!
awesome glad to hear it
Wait, what?? I was considering a AMD build and you're saying the best it can do is 30sec?
@@mikesunboxing Hello, I have a ryzen 7700x, a motherboard like this. Last updated bios. It turns out that I have 4x16gb 6000mhz cl36 corsair vengance and out of nowhere my pc restarts by itself. What can I do to solve my problem? Sorry to bother you. Is it possible to make an undervolt video with maximum definitions in a build with the 7700x and the b650 Tomawank? Thanks for everything.
@@tiagoaugusto8258 I'm not very well informed too, but I read somewhere that you can't use 4 sticks of ram is this platform, it's simply not stable. I saw this in more than one source, that's why I bought 2x32gb instead. If you managed to solve your problem, please update us here.
Restart is 100sec now with disabled 😢
Almost a year and MSI still didnt fix this.
it is better than it was, and manually entering the XMP speeds makes it much quicker
It's kinda fixed now, went from 70 seconds boot to 40 seconds with RCM disabled and with RCM enabled around 12 seconds
I went from 45s to 9.5 seconds with this setting on my 7950x 64gb, thank you very much.
wow that is impressive. nice one
How the hell are these new systems so much slower then our old platforms. For the money they are asking ffs
yeah it is really frustrating
@Mike's unboxing, reviews and how to tell me about it! Not only that, but my monitor is falling asleep at boot up too. 26-37 sec boot time is unacceptable!!
@@danielwells1734mine can take Hours and Gigabyte has not been Helpful at all when I hit the Power Button I just get a Light Blinking Between CPU and DRAM
@@danielwells1734those are normal numbers tho for boot times
On die ecc is the problem
Went from a consistent 73s to 13.5s after enabling MCR on MSI B650M-A WIFI.
7800x3D
32gb 6000 XMP Enabled
Thank you sir!!
Glad it worked out for you
Did you enable memory power down too?
Thank you, Mike! I've been struggling with my new build (Ryzen 7950x, TUF Gaming B650-Plus WiFi, 64gb TeamGroup DDR5-6400 ) boot time improved from a min and half to less then 10 sec! it's just mind-blowing.
cheers!
glad it helped!
did you experiencing any blue screen of death? or crash? is it safe to do so?
Actually, if you enable MemoryContextRestore, you have to enable PowerDownEnable also to prevent BSOD.
For Gigabyte board, they enable both MCR and PowerDownEnable by default, which is why Gigabyte board boots faster than Asus and others.
thanks for the info, i'll look into that
@@mikesunboxing does this work? power down+memory context enabled?
I have a MSI board so if I enable MCR and PowerDownEnable at the same time it should be stable?
What does PoweDownEnable do?
@@gman7949 - if you have an issue that I mentioned above, then you could try enable PowerDownEnable.
I do not know what does PowerDown do but it somehow impact MCR.
@@mikesunboxing - Msi don't have this bug (but have many others especially with memory volltage and cpu soc expo profile:D)!,
So in my case my DDR Setting/Power Down Enable is on ''auto'' i guess that is enable and i get 11,7 sec boot, win 10 fresh installed on samsung 990 pro and on control panel/power options/system setting/turn on fast startup(recomended) is enabled , and i do not believe that Gigabyte or Asus boot more faster in windows:D i was on 10 sec with older 5900x, and now with 7800X3D is at 11,7 sec so close enough i guess
- And yes i noticed after you enable memory restore you have to shoot down pc and restat to take effect, only with restart not working.
- And yes in case you enable EXPO don't forget to change cpu soc voltage to something between 1.1500V to 1.2500V max and cpu vddio voltage to something around max 1.2500V to/ and the VDDP and VDDG voltage(CCD00 and IOD00 voltage) with EXPO is at 1150 V but you can turn that by changing to ''auto'' if you want to get only 0.950 V max for vddg and vddp to, if you don't want you cpu ryzen to explode burn due to motherboard wrong voltage implemented in bios or memory controler:D
- Another bug in bios is that after you enable EXPO that will write in other section of the bios on amd overclocking area, so even after you disable expo in that area the voltage is set = manual= 1150V instead of auto (0.950V) , cause if you disable expo they should be on auto on bouth area.
- Another bug in that when if you want to change memory dram voltage that will change automaticaly the VVDQ and VDDIO voltage to the same value and will change VPP voltage to 1.9 V instead of 1.8V (what should be the max value) for no reason at all
- Another bug in amd overcloking area is that even if you change the soc voltage value in first page OC setting but when u enter in amd overcloking area there soc_voltage is show 0 mV (mV not V) so i think is more safer to change the soc voltage there to to the same value you imput in the first page OC but on mV there not V(example : if you imput 1,800 V in the first page OC then on the other section am overcloking you should imput 1800( mV) instead of 0 what is write there)
- And yes that is the last beta bios .162 where they say they fixed all voltage but is full of bugs to( expo work now at max 1.25V max i guess, but i'm not even try i'm better to imput my own lower voltage than auto):D
Another good example of haw strange for no reason at all the Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master change the soc cpu voltage to something la 1.3V 1.4 V after you mess with expo profile or change something inside bios and was tested by Actually Hardcore Overclocking here(and i noticed something strange like that i told you before on the msi amd overclocking area bios to):
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Currently using an x670 Carbon wifi motherboard.
This method lowered my boot up time from 52.8 secondes, to 19.9 Seconds. Thank you!
Glad it helped
@@mikesunboxing mine is disabled too but boot takes 1minute and when enable it crash always gives BSOD.
You're a legend man! Thank you so much! I went from my booting times being 2 mins+ to less than 10 seconds! New suscriber for sure!
Thanks for the sub!
Just upgraded to a B650 Edge Wifi, took around 1 minute and 20 seconds to boot before, sometimes longer, sometimes didnt post at all. After your fix, it now loads from completely shut down to Windows in 30 seconds! Still slower than my old AM4 motherboard, though. Remind me to never buy an MSI motherboard again😅
Hi mate, I’ve recently just got the msi b650 gaming plus WiFi, and I’m having to wait about a minute and half for it to boot and sometimes done get displays after changing stuff in bios. Spoke to someone and he thinks it’s trying to re train the memory every time it boots up, did doing this in the video help you?
@@xZymicc Just turn on memory context restore on, if u will have blue screens, turn on power down on enable.
It works! Thanks man, love u
You're welcome!
I don't know why but when I boot up my PC. Both the red cpu light and yellow ram light light up for a few seconds and then they dissappear while the pc is brand new and runs normally
that is very normal
@@mikesunboxing after I enabled the ram context thingy the yellow and red only light up for half a second and then a white one
Is that part of POST or systems check? @@mikesunboxing
This worked perfectly for me. Thanks!! My old startup time was 70 seconds, and the new startup Time was 16 seconds!! Tysm!
You're welcome! glad it helped
I bet that over time this video is referenced a LOT !
yeah DDR5 boot times are horrible right now for AMD
right
@@mikesunboxing still same issue... After newest bios
thumbs up for the blue screen
It works. Just simply works. My ryzen 9 pc was booting slow as f*** like 1:30 mins easily. Now It takes less than 20 Seconds
Thanks man! You saved a PC
glad it helped you
I have the problem once a week that my AMD5 System just won't boot... which I have since figured out. I just have to wait for minutes... eventually it just starts after everything is initzalized. I had always panicked before, turned the PC off and clared the CMOS and then just lived with standard RAM speeds.
Thanks for the video, with Memory Context Restore enabled, it seems to be working with EXPO enabled again, at least for now.
glad it helped. Also try turning on memory power down enable
@@mikesunboxing I'm afraid my cheap ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 doesn't have this function.
It should have somewhere ?
I was at around 2 minutes and 30 seconds to boot to lockscreen now im at 36 seconds. Bless this man.
thank you
Thank you for this, I couldn't find information on this memory training BS anywhere, this reduced my boot times from
Glad it helped!
Hey Mike, thank you again for your helpful videos. I happen to be running this same board which makes it even greater for me. Happy to report that I activated Expo profile 1 (6000MHz CL30) and enabled memory context restore and my bios time went from 77 seconds down to 14.7!!! Appreciate your help. Now time to give my PC some good usage to see if it's stable or not. On your video of how to flash the bios on this board you wished me that my build went well and it sure did! Currently writing this comment on my new build. 7800x3d, 32GB of RAM, 3080. Very happy with it so far. Thanks again, Mike
Glad it all worked out for you
Just a heads up. I Tried this and it wouldnt load bios or windows. I tried resetting cmos with no luck. I had to remove the ram , then just insert 1 into slot 2. Then, reset to default optimization. Insert the other ram back in and i was good to go. Just in case anyone else had the same issue.
damn what caused that?
@@Haddley333 no idea. This is the first pc I built.
B650m mortar 32gb (2x16) 6000mhz cl30. Form 90seg to 30. Love you
thanks
what about if after doing this fix, the windows keeps on crashing with the blue screen of death? Does it happen to everyone? How to fix it?
I just bought a new cpu (Ryzen 7 7700), mobo (msi pro b650m-a wifi) and ram (xpg ddr5 16gb*2 6000mhz cl 30) today. And it has been a huge pain in the ass, help will be much appreciated.
also make sure the enable memory power down is turned on if it is set to auto or off it causes BSOD, or maybe you have a bad stick of ram?
@@mikesunboxing Can you suggest any better options with these specs,
DDR5 32GB 6000Mhz CL30
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My first day getting new pc. Thank you for this. From 140s to 20s
excellent result
I think both AMD and MB manufacturers are to blame here. AMD for releasing several bad AGESA versions that manufacturers naturally skip and motherboard manufacturers for not prioritizing BIOS updates on budget boards.
I dont think so, you need to tweak the setting my bro. If you want fast booting and cpu performance and gpu increase GPU PLL and CPU PLL
I enabled but then a blue screen just spawned. I cant do anything. The boot time ist much better but the Blue screen is everytime there.. any results??
try also turning on enable memory power down
@Oletta Liano. The Gigabyte boards likely skip DDR5 training after initial setup and possibly re-train if new modules are detected, as it should be IF this is the case. So Mike's doing a service here to MSI people. Dumping MSI for Gigabyte is NEVER the solution 😆At least not yet. Asus B650 = Trash. ASRock looking good on AM5 quality wise. Good stuff Mike.
thanks james
In which way is Asus trash for B650? I'm uncertain which board to get...
@@reinulf656 they are not trash someone had the specs for those boards before they came out with some really bad vrms but they turned out to be much better than what that person listed Jesus is overpriced but I still think you're fine with any of the four big motherboard brands
THANK YOU. I did this and also updated my BIOS and my BIOS-time went from 35s to 9.5s.
great result
I definitely will be sticking with AM4 for a couple more years - just got Ryzen 5800X3D so will keep that one going and get maximum value from that. Very informative video though.
Good choice! the 5800X3D is a fantastic chip
3800x3d?
@@mikejones2588 That's a typo should read 5800X3D - I will edit thanks 😀
@@mikejones2588 Should've read 5800X3D 😀
Paid money for crosshair 670e extreme to have 79 second boot times with 2 sticks 32gb each very nice
I have the same moba. And when I do this I also get crash. I think we have nothing but wait for MSI to fix this problem with bios updates.
I dont know if i should I send my Mobo back, i have the same one tomahawk, everyone says that I should wait for the new bios updates. But i dont know 🥲
@@D0GLSwhat did you do? Did it get better?
My boot time went from 77 seconds to 17.5 seconds after doing this 🤯
Thanks so much 🙏
You're welcome!
Reduced my boot time from 37 seconds to 8! Thanks 🙏
holy cow! that is very impressive!
I just bought an MSI B650 Tomahawk Wifi and I got a lot of BSOD and UEFI crashes. I almost sent everything back and changed to INTEL. It turned out that in the bios the MemoryContextRestore was enabled but *PowerDownEnable* was not. Why is this allowed at all MSI and why this is the default setting? I read that Gigabyte bind these two options...
It seems that MSI has the most problems with AM5 of all board manufacturers... Very sad
This saved me. I just got an MSI b650 carbon wifi and had slow boots coming over from an intel MB with
Great vid, worked for me, I have the MSI b650 gaming plus wifi with 7800x3d and 2x16 6000 mhz corsair ram.
Boot time went from 150 sec to 12 sec. No bluescreens so far.
Excellent results
do you overclock your ram while doing this?
Thanks, still helped a year later for 7800x3d/msi b650, tforce ram. 3 minute boots down to 27 seconds now with expo.
good result
i appreciate your videos, they've helped me alot with my new system. This gives me an instant post now with the setting changed.
glad to hear it
It really works, 50 sec boot time now is only 14 sec. Problem was to find memory context restore setting for asus x670e-e MB.
Thank you. I believe we have the exact same MB. Boot times went from minutes to under 30 seconds. I had no idea it was the RAM that was causing the long boot. Also, MSI put out a new BIOS for our MB, 7D75V13 release 03-01-2023.
I also had a strange problem with the video card (7900 XT) flickering or returning an error AND another error where launching a program, notably VLC player, would semi-hang the system (where active programs were fine, but nothing new would open for several seconds). I did two things that has clearly solved this problem: 1) updated to the aforementioned BIOS release. 2) after ensuring the stability of the new BIOS flash, Disabled an integrated Graphics setting in the BIOS. I read somewhere that you should leave the integrated graphics running for some reason or another, but I thought... why not? If it doesn't work I'll just revert the setting. Well, I disabled the integrated graphics after updating the BIOS and now everything goes fast. Hope this helps someone.
thanks i'll give it a go although i think mine is disabled already
I also have the exact same MB, but the DRAM light stays on during this process. I didn’t notice that it eventually POSTs until recently
@@robbcabaian I have a Asus tuf b650-M Plus and the dram light stays on when booting until It boots. I guess is this memory training
Thank you so much! I went from 50s to 20s boot time. The boot time was the only thing that bothered my on the AM5 platform.
glad it helped, the newer bios versions are making an impact as well
Thanks Mike much faster now. I have the Msi b650 and 32g ddr5. you got my subcribtion.
Thanks for the sub!
@Orbs081 hey bro, do you have any issue that mike says in the video like blue screen, or other problems about ram's frequency. I have also msi mag b650 tomahawk, and my boot time is around 30-40 seconds without memory context restore and my rams' frequencies are 6000mhz. I am scared to mess up everything by enabling memory context restore.
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I did what Mike said in the Video and everything is running good no blue screens. Memory Ï got is Trident Z5 neo rgb. 16g x2. @@raxtwi
MSI MPG X670E Carbon with a 7900x with 32GB of T-Force Delta RGB DDR5 6000.. Boot times 15 seconds .. SOLID and stable! My extensive research paid off!
that is bloody fast
I also have the MSI MPG X670E Carbon, a 7900X and 32GB of G.Skill 6000. Could you post your bios settings + what bios version please ? Did you enable EXPO ? Are you running your ram at 6000 ? Thanks
@@seroxat30i.have problem when turn on expo make slow and post code 15 so sad Mobo carbon x670e and 7800x3d
Thank you! Went from 166.9 seconds to 10.9 seconds 🙏🙏🙏
wow that is pretty impressive
on my asus system, this makes it bsod and unstable, however for me I have noticed turning off ram overclocking, disabling expo 1, running at default ram of 4800mhz, my system boots as fast as ddr4 system, around 12 secs, vs enabling expo 1, 38 secs, yikes
yeah EXPO ram training really needs some improvements to the algorithm
Anyone using an MSI B650 Tomahawk with the latest bios? Just curious if the boot times and overall stability have been improved.
Yes much better now
Why is there blue screen after u enabled the memory context restore?
it didn't like the previous memory training settings, and the motherboard ended up being returned not long after
Thanks for this advice. I just tried it on my MSI PRO X670 board. It sped up reboots significantly: from about 70s to ~20s. But unfortunately it also made the system unstable - had a couple of hangs trying to get into different OSs so I put the setting back to auto. It's a shame because this board in particular takes way too long to reboot. Thankfully running Linux I don't have to do that too often!
yeah it is rather hit and miss, seems the newer BIOSes help
@@mikesunboxing BIOSes for my board seem to be in a constant state of beta release. It's not very encouraging.
@@treyquattro what brand of board are using?
@@mikesunboxing I saw yours bluescreen also at 2:37 in.
@@gman7949 MSI
Since you reply to all comments
My Msi modern 15 laptop has this issue where it takes 10-12 seconds to show the MSI logo after pressing the power button - after which it boots up in 5 seconds.
I really doubt its like the motherboard/ bios is waiting for something until the MSI logo appears .
Any fix i can try ??
could be memory training if it is DDR5
Is this still the best way to get faster boot times on amd systems? i just recently build a 7800x3d system with the msi project zero motherboard. On the support page for the board theres a beta version bios update that says "optimize system boot time" i just don't like that it is a beta version. What would be the best to do? :)
do the things in the video and also latest bios and you will find it very similar to ddr4 based system's
@@mikesunboxing ok. Thanks alot 🙂
Mike, what happens if you don’t enable EXPO and just let the system run at 4800 MHz? Does that fix the instability and / or slow boot?
It didn’t seem to, best thing to do is constantly look for bios updates slowly they are fixing it
Wow Mike you are the Best, even i am on my breack i just back home,open the CPU and no pins bending at all into socket, I screw in the heat pump but not very hard,and my ram on BIOS was on AUTO,so i put Enable and all is good not red light or yellow at all and booting in just 12 seconds,sorted,keep MSI on Because all the rest working perfect anyway. Thanks Mike the Best
really glad it helped you
Hey ,,if I do not enable my ram expo then boot time around 20s, but when I enable my expo boot time around 50s, ( I'm using 1 ram slots..ddr5 6000mhz) please give me a solution.
probably a issue with single channel RAM
Love that you always help me out cuz u are the one doing those niche Videos. Whenever i research my issues sooner or later i find ur videos xD
Happy to help!
Hey ,,if I do not enable my ram expo then boot time around 20s, but when I enable my expo boot time around 50s, ( I'm using 1 ram slots..ddr5 6000mhz,mobo:msi pro b650-s wifi, SSD: Corsair mp 600 pro nh 1tb gen4,cup: Ryzen7 7700, without GPU) please give me a solution.
single channel issue maybe?
@@mikesunboxing sir, how can I fix that problem.
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so i have 6000mhz ram but its only using 3600mhz. and im not sure why. i have 4x16gb of ram and GIGABYTE B650M AORUS Elite AX AM5... i have heard that enabling XMP will start a boot cycle... is that true?
Yeah four sticks with xmp might not get the best results update the bios for better speeds the new agesa seems to help a lot
Hi Mike, I just built my pc and was having troubles with the display. Anytime I tried doing anything in the bios it would then reboot the pc and no display would come back on until I cleared the cmos. I managed to change to ram speed to expo one by using one ram stick, I then powered down the pc and plugged the other in, this seems to of got both ram sticks at full speed! But every time I boot up it’s taking 1 minute 30 seconds to boot, so you think there’s any other issues or just to enable this setting?
check to see if memory power down enable is on, if not try that
@@mikesunboxing I think my ram isnt compatiable with the mobo, I didn't know that they were optimised for either intel
or amd
Hey i just found your video, i have a new pc with MSI b650 gaming + wifi motherboard and corsair Vengeance 32g ddr.
I had an EXTREMELY long boot, over 1 minute before i even saw the MSI logo onscreen.
I tried this fix and it changed the total pc boot to windows from +- 1 minute 30 seconds to 15-20 seconds boot to windows!
that is a pretty good result, nice one
do you use expo to overclock your ram??
Hey Mike. Did I just see a blue screen on your first boot after changing this setting? 2:37 in. I am new to AM5 and when I first noticed a slow boot I was thinking it may have been a MSI issue or a fault with my board but based on what I have seen online it is impacting almost all AM5 boards. I am not willing to enable memory context restore as many others are saying blue screen issues.
yes the ddr5 on a lot of boards with expo is fussy, bios updates seem to be helping
@@mikesunboxing I’ve just disabled EXPO and it is fine now.
Default ram speed for my ram is 4800 and the EXPO speed is 5200. I did some geekbench and cinebench benchmarking and there is very little difference.
@@gman7949 Did you fix the issue with EXPO ON? I have the same issue but with EXPO OFF its 4800 but with Expo on it becomes 5600 but the boot time increases by 20 seconds
fixed my boot time problem, went from ~ 45 sec to instant. Thank you
Thank you so much for the info. Helped a lot.
Glad it was helpful!
Omg you're a lifesaver. 90 sec to post down to 15.
excellent results there
work perfect ;-) MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI. THANKS SO MUCH!!!!
gla to help
Just installed an am5 and every time I boot it takes like 3 minutes. LED in the board starts at yellow Dram then shortly goes to red CPu and then goes white and green and boots xD
turn on context restore and enable memory power down. and maybe update the bios if it isn't already
Hi please sir help me my PC is playing game then after 10-12 minutes going to crush every time and get to blue screen your PC into running this notification how can I solved this sir please 😢😢😢
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I had 32gb before on msi i added another 32gb today now if I disable this system will not become unstable ? Was booting in 10 seconds with just 32gb here in 64gb taking so long
4 sticks of RAM is really fussy on AM5 if that is what you are using any rarely gets XMP / EXPO rated speeds
@@mikesunboxing getting 6000 with expo on. on 4 sticks, 7800x3d but dont know what happened to boot time suddenly on MSI MAG-B650, its gone 3 fold. My win7 boots in 7 seconds with SSD, this has samsung nvme.
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Thank the lord, my brand new 7800x3d 4070ti build is amazing except the 67 second bios time, after this video it sits at 19.5 ⚡️
amazing result! I just got a new MSI B650M-P and that was in the minutes to boot not seconds! A few quick tweaks and now it boots to the windows desktop in 20 seconds
@@mikesunboxing im running a b650M MORTAR WIFI I just built it and was so confused why it was slower than my old pc but thanks again loving the new build
Didn't change anything for me sadly. Running at stock it boots fast enough but enable EXPO and its takes an age to boot, but why have 6000mhz ram if you can't run it at that speed?
have you updated the BIOS? and also try to enable memory power down mode
i have the msi b650 wifi with 7800x3d, 2x 16gb kingsten fury 6000, 990 pro 2tb ssd.... need 2:02 minutes till i can log in win 11, with MemoryContextRestore 1:45 minutes :( mainboard broken?
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Great Video! Thanks, very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks! This worked perfectly.
glad it helped
Thanks for sharing Mike and Kath 👍
Thanks for watching!
I have a 13 second boot to screen open with ASUS B650M-A II-CSM + 2x16GB Corsair DDR5 6400 which is longer than i'm used to on my older PC. It made me a little panicky at first but I got used to it it's not a terrible time really. Add 5 seconds of BIOS pause I added manually I'm usually in Windows in 30 seconds which is decent. The issue i have is that the monitor doesnt open during that 13 seconds to show whats going on and that makes me panicky. I want to see the BIOS screen.
try changing the port the monitor is connected to, that is often what causes the lack of a bios screen, or the possibility it isn't totally UEFI compatible
Thats helped me 16gb Vengeance with asus tuf gaming plus b650 cpu 78003dx
I enable it and doing good now
But 1 question
Is there any problem after i enable it?
For gaming editing or all should be good?
it won't cause any problems and really should be enabled as default but for some reason they choose not to?
i tried it and im getting random blue screens can you please give us an update and the best bios settings possible im using b650 tomahawk wifi + 7600x+ gskill z5 neo rgb 16*2 6000mhz 30CL
take a look at this, it might help
ua-cam.com/video/H_6V85lAGvY/v-deo.html
Hi, this didn't help anything on my am5. 1min 26sec to Windows login screen
it should be better if you also enable memory power down enable
@@mikesunboxing that helped, 24sec now. I had an asus board before so it was easy there.
Thanks
i need help with this exact thing this happens to my computer (same system msi b650 mag tomahawk with ryzen 5 7600 (non x) and 16gb ram) but in the middle of the black screen (before the mag logo) a crazy glitch screen with a blue square in the centre and weird bars on the sides appear... i don't know what to do i looked for it everywhere, maybe bios update? reset something? clear cache of something? of course i have all the other drivers up to date and i have an old rx 570 4gb gpu... maybe is that? i dont know im lost
yes likely the rx570 doesn't support UEFI bios
@@mikesunboxing but everything else in my pc does, is turning csm mode gonna change my pc so much? should i do this only for the gpu? i recently updated my bios version and all, the other day i got a windows 10 update something about net framework and for 2 boots the artifacts were gone, but they appeared again hah im still clueless and i cant find the problem or solution online...
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How comes my cpu speed less than your 4.20. Have expo enabled. Use 7950x3d. ?
not sure. doesn't the x3d chips run slower, i thought they did in terms of clockspeed
If I Enable MCR then I must have Power Down Enabled as well or I'll get the BSOD just after windows boots.
yes enable memory power down if you are getting BSOD after doing it
I ran Expo on my 5200 Ram kit but boot time was so long. I tried enable PowerContextRestore and PowerDownEnable and boot time 12sec. But Ram frequency only 4800 and expo is still enabled to run 5200.. I don’t understand why frequency is now lower on EXPO 1 :( I have MSI gaming plus wifi
that is odd, should be giving you the full XMP or EXPO speeds
@@mikesunboxing I solved this 😇😍 just enteret bios and save and exit -> No changes to save-> OK-> again 2 minutes boot .. but after that it works and boot time 11seconds
@@yaardaa9811 Glad you got it sorted out 🙂
Does anyone know how to do it on Intel boards? I have an Asus Z790E and don't know where to go. And memory context restore is nowhere to be found
not sure sorry, should be called something similar though i would have thought
When from 60secs to 3 secs, im using a b650-S MSI 7600x and a crucial p3 plus
that is incredible! nice one
Speccing my first gaming PC (Mac user of 15+ years)...
I was initially considering a cheaper AM4 build because why not...but I'm now starting to look at the current gen as I've slowly dialled in the overall cost and budget.
I'm now just discovering this boot time issue with the AM5 platform...what on earth? 60 seconds to boot? This is supposed to be current tech?
I'm tired of PCs already
with the newer bios revisions this is becoming less of a drag,in time it will be as quick if not quicker than DDR4
@@mikesunboxing Thanks, good to know.
I realise I will have to get used to the inevitable snags that occur when building and maintaining your own setup. And I guess this is all part of the fun!
Have been spoiled by Apple for too long I know
My Macbook will always be on hand when things go pear shaped haha
Ok so that didn’t work for me at all. BUT disabling XMP all together completely rid me of the issue. Someone help bc I’m seeing people say that there’s two settings that weren’t mentioned👀👀👀
yeah you might need to enable power down and context restore, and make sure if it is an AMD system you are using EXPO rather than XMP
Hey Mike, i have Bios 7D75v1B from 2023-11-28 for the msi tomahawk b650. There is no option for Expo Profile
does your RAM actually have an EXPO certification? Or just XMP?
You forgot to mention the other Memory Context Restore as there are two of the little sods. Second location is in Advanced / AMD CBS / UMC Common Options / DDR Memory Features. Setting both of these to enable will bring post/boot times down to that of AM4, providing you have Expo 1 enabled and not 2.
I followed the video, had the problems booting, hit the cmos and added what you mentioned. Now booting in 30 seconds. Thank you both!!!
what motherboard are u using? i don’t see it, have the same mb as in the video..
@@jelle. Asus ROG B650i-e wifi
Went from 76.6 to 36.6 seconds just by updating to the beta MSI bios; it worked for my friend too, although we have almost the same components. I'm fine with that, but if that reduced it by so much, I bet this one would lower it to around 20, although I don't need it so I'm fine without
Does Intel 13th gen CPUs with DDR5 have the same problem? Slow boot time.
no not as much, for me intel ddr5 has been brilliant
If you have a dedicated video card you can try disabling the integrated video card, for me the boot time got shortened by about 5 seconds, not much but better than nothing.
every little helps
how do you disable this in the bios? I can't find it in the MSI settings.
@@Bluelemonzz "Settings\Advanced\Integrated Graphics Configuration\Integrated Graphics".
You must change this from "UMA Auto" to "Disabled"
Do we need to enable power down mode when we enabled memory context restore. or it would be auto or disable( power down)
some newer bios enable it automatically, just check it is enabled
@@mikesunboxing I understood we have to mcr enable I want to ask power down mode at for rams enable or disable.
Great video! I recently built a high-end gaming PC, and everything is running perfectly so far. My only issue is a boot time of over a minute. I’ve seen some comments suggesting enabling ‘memory power down’ along with ‘memory context store’ to avoid BSOD issues. Is this necessary? If so, where can I find the option to enable memory power down?
most modern BIOS have a search box, so just start typing memory context and it should appear, also look to enable memory power down
@@mikesunboxing Cheers 🍻
I tried to find ‘memory power down’ in the search bar, but it seems it’s actually listed as ‘power down enable.’ Is this the option I was looking for, or did I make a mistake by enabling ‘power down enable’?
Hello, after making these changes in BIOS, did you encounter any problems while booting later on?
i should have also enabled memory power down. this is now usually automatically due when you enable context restore.
@@mikesunboxing where I can find "memory power down"? I'm using msi x670e mobo. please help me, my boot time is almost 60 seconds.
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My test results .
Specs
6000 64ddr5 expo Fury(i have feeling preview Corsair 32g was quicker.
7950x3d
7900xtx
Mag x670e tomahawk wifi
Test i did now
dram training
Anabled .40sec
Bios to windows 1.25
Disabled 1.30
W11 to bios 1.30
Auto 1.30.
Conclusion.
Anabled works for me.
P.s.power plan extreem quick boot.
Hello not the first time i watched one of your videos and always helpfull
I just had the same issue and with that enable it boots really fast but i have an other issue, when i start the computer or restart it i have a red led for the cpu and an orange one for the dram is this a problem ?
without expo the pc is completely fine but the problem i described happens when i turn on expo
speaking with msi but don't think they will help a lot
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Thank's for the help
Glad it helped! and yes the red and orange led is just ram checking or training completely normal
@@mikesunboxing thanks glad to know that it's not a problem
OMG manny thanks, works!
Thanks mike mine starts so much faster
glad it helped
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good afternoon sir, how are we doing today
@@mikesunboxing Thanks good & yourself Sire ??? 😀
@@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie not bad, could do with a snooze though 😂
@@mikesunboxing I alway sleep 10 to 12 hours from Sunday to Monday. some times even 15 hours. well we have to at old age 😅😂🤣
@@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie Agreed!
i just paired the same motherboard with a 7600x and 32gb of gskill z5 neo rgb 6000mhz CL30 what's your thoughts on it ?
decent setup
@@mikesunboxing what do you recommend for future upgrade ?
@@cjentuskuzan4027 GPU? maybe the CPU will good for ages and the RAM