I will take stylized artwork over realism in video games anyday. It ages better and is able to sell the setting so well. For games like this it sells the heightened reality and unreality of it all.
These fights are going to get progressively more harder for you. Here's a hint that will help you immensely: Use the Rabbit Bomb as a distraction to get away from enemies. Don't detonate it, just let the enemies crowd around it. Gives you A LOT of breathing space from hordes of enemies.
Gabs, if you're wondering how Alice ended up in the river from the rooftops, there was actually a lot of content cut from the game. One of it involving Alice murdering Pris Witless (the old lady with the pigeon) while she was hallucinating her being a monster and escaping the cops by jumping across the buildings until she falls into the river and ends up on the piers.
@@saorise28 Development time was limited so they had to scrap several concepts, most notably they removed a lot of the content for when Alice was in the real world. Alice in the real world was supposed to have her own version of mini games where she jumps from the rooftops, runs from the police, combat etc. You'll notice that the real world parts of the game are all just exploration and dialogue with Alice just losing consciousness and appearing somewhere else with no explanation as to how she got there. It was all cut.
That makes me think about DID, tbh. In a lot of undiagnosed cases, the person goes into their mind, their alter takes over, and they wake up somewhere else hours alter with no recollection. Though, I hear it's pretty terrifying, losing hours of time with no way to get them back...
Tip of this game: if i remember well at some point you can change your outfit you want your character to wear, outfits you already used. If you upgrade a lot your horse weapon, it’s look will be gothic and deadly
And, if I'm remembering correctly, the 4 levels of the hobby horse represent the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Or maybe that was a theory? Regardless, the hobby horse's designs are some of my favorite weapon designs in the game
Fun fact... dentistry was super expensive in the Victorian era that there’s a fad of pulling all your teeth out as a birthday gift... also, since dentures were made from real teeth, a lot of the impoverished sold their teeth for $$... so maybe teeth = currency in game... 🤓
Actually it's because losing teeth/teeth falling out is common in dreams! If I remember correctly it means that something in your life is changing or you regretted saying something
So happy to see you play this! I’m unable to afford to play a lot of games so the only way I get to enjoy them is through play-throughs like yours ( ^ w ^) Looking forward to watching more
That's what I do as well because I watch playthrough(s)/Let's Plays of games that I have an interest in playing, but don't have access to a specific console... (I mostly on my laptop or my Nintendo Switch...)
I can't even afford PlayStation so this is my only way to enjoy games... My cousin has it so once a year during the holidays I go to my cousin's house just to play games all day long
Quick tip - you can chain the Hobbyhorse attacks together. If timed right, the third hit does a ton of damage! (edit - might have to hold the attack button down on the third hit)
I haven't played this game in years, but I was totally obsessed as a teenager. And the original game, American McGee's Alice. But that game's so old now it wouldn't run on my computer anyway...
@@forsakenempire4774 it actually came with the retail copy of Madness Returns as well. (this was back when physical copies of games was still a thing 😂)
@@mariahramsey9211 I found the port to be a bit difficult to play. I remember playing bits of it at a friend's house as a kid and it wasn't as hard as it is on the xbox. Also everything seems to be behind by about .5 seconds so timing jumps and such is incredibly hard.
I remember being obsessed over this game and its graphics, awesome to see you play it and enjoy it too! Favorite character is still the Cheshire cat for me, I love his design!
something about you saying "gimme the teeth" brought back memories of a d'n'd character I had who would pry teeth out of her enemies and wore them on a necklace
Alice's mind is not in shambles. She blames herself and was grieving. She has no one to rely upon and unfortunately back then they called it madness. I watched this game when snake play it.
Plus the therapist's whole deal of deliberately suppressing memories is so unhealthy, the absolute opposite of what she needs. What a quack. Of course he doesn't actually care whether it works or not, for reasons the game eventually reveals.
@@Torthrodhel Oh he cares alright.. cares about making sure she does NOT gather the pieces of the jig-saw (which needs only her memory), the process of elimination (n common sense) will inevitably put the pieces together.. sooner or later! Remember the quote (m'lazy n paraphrasing) words to the effect of our pets being a doppelganger of ourselves, mentions her toy rabbit, n to the crux of the point "That cat of yours must have been a confident. Dinah was ALWAYS AROUND YOU.. wasn't she" Its a shame SO MUCH WAS CUT OUT, I think it ruined it. But at the very beginning, Bumby's 'Professional opinion' concluded "that the cat most likely knocked over the oil lantern that was found in the library.. starting the fire" Of course that's just the start of it (I don't wanna spoil anything for anyone at this point), but I know u know what I mean, X ..n actually ur right! His 'fear' of her remembering is but an inconvenience he could do w/ out.. I mean THE NERVE! ..for reasons the game eventually reveals. The brass neck tho, lol.. so casual about it! EDIT: Yeah I just realised that was the start of the NEXT chapter, n it was Dr Radcliff's 'pro opinion', AND (of all that WAS) that scene was not cut out. Its been far. Too. Long! IDK why, but I 'remember' that 'Cat Culprit' scene as being near (if not at) the start of the game. N The Inferno Train w/ "That train is perfectly capable of terrifying me, YOU should find something better to do" as the 1st time Cheshire makes his appearance.. near the start of the game. I also remember the scene prior to the 'Shipwreck' side scroller as some 'captain' ushering Alice onto the ship w/ a sense of urgency. Don't remember the details, but it was a situation where the ship was her only chance of survival. I also 'remember' the Carpenters 'show' as being very different, despite starting the same!
"Sore sights that preyed on me for days & in laudanum's haze I PAINTED THEM ALL" -Dani Filth. Yup, n 'madness' meant getting holes drilled in yer head, electric shocks (aka E.C.T 'treatment'), prolonged periods on the 'chair-spin-round', then doped up on opioids to keep ya inanimate while 'in storage' (bedridden in cell).. ..storage could be as long as they 'see fit', no rush.. just 'whenever'.. till its time to subject another 'subject' to a well documented LOBOTOMY! ..ALL in the name of 'science' & 'medical research'. Science is about exploring uncharted territory, is it not? ..& if that doesn't make the apparently n allegedly 'mad', Truly mad.. then maybe they WERE mad all along?! 🤔 So many ppl condemned to unimaginable torture n torment.. away from the public's prying eyes (who ironically r 2 SCARED to go NEAR the madhouse), Trusting that they're in 'expert' hands n the best care. & a perfect solution for 'well-to-do' families to dump their 'EMBARRASSMENTS'! I call it MADNESS, n yeah, a MADHOUSE is exactly what those 'asylums' were. Spellchecker even accepts it as a legitimate word.
I like different takes on stories. This one has me intrigued. I do like the art style as well. It's keeping me on the edge of my seat. The oysters in the Disney Alice in Wonderland are interesting looking as well. But they're babies, and the carpenter and the walrus end up leading them out of the water and eating them too. It's interesting to say the least. Thanks for playing this interesting game.
For Aristocrates, the Crows, and stereotyping certain breeds as certain human races. Think i remember the Siamese playing the piano with chopsticks too. Then again..my favorite movie Oliver's Company also did the stereotyping.. >.< Haha had the same reaction to the oyster ladies too. The demented children scene too was creepy
The racist part of "The Aristocats" is an Asian cat named Shun Gon (he's voiced by a white actor). He's pretty much the racist stereotypical caricature of an Asian character, and I guess he plays the piano with chopsticks...
@@Darkshade_01 It's not really a scene of itself. It's a small part of the 'Everybody Wants to Be A Cat' song and I think it's like a solo for him with the chopsticks
yes. it's unfortunate they felt the need to put that in there b/c otherwise that was a good movie. I wouldn't NOT watch it because of that but I would use it as a teaching opportunity to show how racism comes in different forms for younger kids who might otherwise not have been exposed to it yet.
Somebody mentioned the Jim Crows from Dumbo. And let’s not forget Song of the South. Don’t get me wrong: I have fond memories of Disney films, but my God...!
I'm re-watching this series because American McGee's Alice and Alice: Madness Returns are two of my all time favorite games. As a kid I was fascinated by the idea of Wonderland and teen me was a goth so this dark take on it was my jam lol. I'm so glad I got to see Gab discover and enjoy them. 1:16:52 BTW, for anyone wondering like Gab did why Disney had the apology at the beginning of Aristocats it's because, like with Lady and the Tramp, they have a racist bit with a buck-toothed Siamese cat (played by a white man) in the song Everybody Wants To Be A Cat where it played the piano with chopsticks, had a drum kit's symbol on his head, squinted his eyes, and sang "Shanghai, Hong Kong, Egg Fu Yung, fortune cookie always wrong" So... yeah, movie and animation studios in the 50's and 60's did not like Asians apparently because all of them have this kind of content in their movies back then. ʅ(ツ)ʃ
I think the racist part of Aristocats (she talks about it at 1:19:20 or so) is when all the cats were singing together and having a jam and there was a Chinese cat playing a piano with chopsticks and saying fake Chinese words
OKAY! Poor Cowturtle guy! I wanna hug him! also Alice's dress is sooo cool! Like an angler fish mixed with an umbrella octopus or something! or that vampire squid that glows! super cute!
There's a mode called Hysteria you should try it (literally the coolest feature in the game) To enter it just let them hit you until you're so low and then press the button they tell you to press in the flowers area (hp area) Edit: Ok she used it in the last fight to get the last part of the flower xD
gab! try pressing the hobby horse button 3 times consecutively to break defences and so you dont have to wait as much for timing. also try xxyx for combo 😘
1:25:00 Gab absolutely destroying the goop goons and crustaceans in this fight whilst taking 0.00 points of damage was so damn satisfying. Like *chef's kiss*.
Fun fact about the ice level: The animals frozen in movement are part of the story of Alice in Wonderland where the animals get soaked by the ocean and decide to run around in a circle to dry off. Of course, that doesn't quite explain the reason for the arctic setting. But just some context for the animals that appear in poses suggesting motion.
it froze as she got knocked out shortly after visiting the ice stock (all the ice blocks- note that there's even a few frozen Ice Snarks in them as she's already starting to slip into Wonderland!)
I have gotten a 10 hour 40 minute long skipable ad labeled: "OFFICE JAZZ - Relax Concentrate JAZZ Piano For Work From The Office or Home" from advertiser "Relax Music" and I find this situation hilarious.
"Deep In The Sea" makes a hell of a lot more sense than "Under The Sea". They LIVE IN IT, not under it! "Life in the sea" would have been a better song idea even🤦♀️
for a game that is 11 years old the physics are really well, from the hair, to the shadows moving around Alice depending on where the light is coming from! Also, about the apologies in Disney movies. In Sweden there is a tradition to watch "Donald Duck" on Christmas before opening the gifts, it has clips from older Disney movies, from the "Junglebook" to "Ferdinand" and even "Santa's workshop" which has some... not so subtle hints of racism, but last year -- or 2020, I'm not sure -- they added an apology at the very end of the program
This is a good looking game, I remember when it first came out, I so wanted to play it, it looked so kewl. I am not sure why i never did. I imagine Anne Joy Taylor could play Alice in a movie.
I literally just completed this last week. It's amazing! I'm so glad you're playing this. I loved the different levels. Fingers crossed the new game gets funding. I want to see the next part of Alice's story!
at 51:22 'coals to Newcastle' is a helluva line! newcastle is a neighbouring city to where a lot of the inspiration for the origional writing took place; Sunderland!
I’m so glad I found you. So many (mostly male gamers) started this play through but got bored and dropped it right at the point you are at in this installment. I love your commitment and loyal drive. Thank you for being uniquely you 👏🏼
5:08 True. I think they are still a huge deal today though! ;) Bc even nowadays very little games go for realistic hair physics like they did in Alice. Dead or Alive does it, but other than that a lot of games still use either fix hair or just slightly moving hair.
I'm so happy you're enjoying this game! :D Also heads up, not sure if anyone has mentioned but the Clockwork Bomb makes a great decoy when you're swarmed with enemies :) Excited to see more!!
I can't wait see to your reaction when start to click about this game! Also, yes hair physics was a big thing when this game first came out. Also Smog and butterflies.
To be fair, Madness Returns being a linear story, with only really one protagonist with actual hair would allow the developers to devote more resources to make it look good, compared to an open world (i.e. Skyrim) full of NPCs that need individual strands of hair blowing in the wind, and floating in the water... But still, the helmet-hair of Skyrim remains a constant source of irritation to me - not least of which because they didn't even bother making sure it doesn't clip through clothing or the character's own ears (which would hypothetically be even easier to avoid, when the hair is static, like in Skyrim.)
I remember playing this alongside MGS: Peacewalker, and enjoying Kinect with Just Dance games. And oh, RE5 too. Good ol' days when I drifted away from PS bloodline!
We had one of the old VHS sing-a-long tapes with a song from Aristocrats. The Siamese cat's line was "Shang-hi, Hong Kong, Egg Foo Yung. Fortune Cookie always wrong." while playing the piano with chopsticks. Can't remember the full movie, but that's enough.
12:15, you said that Alice's jump was not suppose to happen but it actually was. I thought you figured it out last episode but a lot happened last chapter: If you shrink down Alice gets small and she starts hiccupping. While she is small, there are also hidden messages or secrets. They can point you collectibles or hidden teeth. If you were to shrink down at that timestamp, you would have seen a purple invisible platform
as a little tip, if you do a hammer combo you can then press knife to do a quick knife attack and it deals a lot of damage. Same thing with the knife, you do the full knife combo then use the horse hammer, boom, special chain attack!
Have a look at a game called Dreamfall the longest journey. I think you might like. Very weird and different with an interesting story and unique characters.
At 1:08, that moment happens a lot in this game. I think that the idea is that Alice's Wonderland is crossing over into her reality a little bit. This game is AMAZING! I like the Cheshire Cat best!!
Loving this series! So fun to watch ☺️ if someone didn't already mention it, the aristocats had a Siamese cat playing the piano with chopsticks shouting something about fortune cookies, very racist!
Your videos are my reward for being a good student 😆😉 I forgot how iconic her hair and dress movement is in this game! And the music 💜 I'm so happy about this series.
It's creepy how the memories foreshadow the ending and the truth and yet it's even too vague for the player to understand. Especially Dr. Bumby's memories and all that talk of purpose. I don't really understand Pris's memories tho
I've never played this game but I remember my older sister playing the first one and it gave me the creeps! So glad I get to watch your playthrough, Gab. It's amazing so far!
@@btter710 haha yes! I got the mobile version when i found it and by God the controls for it on mobile is HORRIBLE especially when going thru the maze! The PC version was the same but easier with a mouse
Indeed, when this came out PhysX was kind of the new tech that was being developed for PC games, like some fluid simulation and destructible objects, hair and cloth physics and that sort. Later on by like 2015 it was superseded by FleX, but FleX never went mainstream and has been more experimental and in development. Anyway, the PC version of this game has the PhysX features, and cloth and hair simulation in general was still relatively a new graphical feature, but there was no games at the time as far as what I remember that had hair simulation like this game. If I remember correctly watching a live stream from American McGee, he said that they highered 1 guy in China that programmed the hair physics just himself, and did a fantastic job.
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yea the hair physics was THE THING being talked about back then😆
I still love the hair physics tbh
yea!
Hair physics were impressive for its time. Even now hair physics is difficult XD.
I'm talking about it nowwww lol
In “Resi 7” Mia’s hair is terrible.
I will take stylized artwork over realism in video games anyday. It ages better and is able to sell the setting so well. For games like this it sells the heightened reality and unreality of it all.
And even today it still looks good
Absolutely
Love how Gab went from "Do I collect teeth? Gross" to "GIVE ME ALL THE TEETH" 🤣
These fights are going to get progressively more harder for you. Here's a hint that will help you immensely:
Use the Rabbit Bomb as a distraction to get away from enemies. Don't detonate it, just let the enemies crowd around it. Gives you A LOT of breathing space from hordes of enemies.
this is a under rated game i remember when it came out and it was WOW, even today it makes other modern games look meh
Yes! This game never got the hype it deserved
I honestly love it so much if they touched up the graphics to make it look a little more polished it would make it literally perfect
Gabs, if you're wondering how Alice ended up in the river from the rooftops, there was actually a lot of content cut from the game.
One of it involving Alice murdering Pris Witless (the old lady with the pigeon) while she was hallucinating her being a monster and escaping the cops by jumping across the buildings until she falls into the river and ends up on the piers.
Oh wow, that's actually really cool!
So dark, I love it! Too bad it was cut from the game.
Why was it cut?
@@saorise28 Development time was limited so they had to scrap several concepts, most notably they removed a lot of the content for when Alice was in the real world.
Alice in the real world was supposed to have her own version of mini games where she jumps from the rooftops, runs from the police, combat etc.
You'll notice that the real world parts of the game are all just exploration and dialogue with Alice just losing consciousness and appearing somewhere else with no explanation as to how she got there. It was all cut.
That makes me think about DID, tbh. In a lot of undiagnosed cases, the person goes into their mind, their alter takes over, and they wake up somewhere else hours alter with no recollection.
Though, I hear it's pretty terrifying, losing hours of time with no way to get them back...
Oh. Try to make shrinking a habbit. Theres lots of secrets
she already finished it on twitch
Well. For those who want to play.
Oh yea
Needs the Caterpillar Costume- that has always been my favorite and I equip it every time I play.
Gotta stay shrunk.
I walked through half the game shrunk.
Gotta find those secrets.
Tip of this game: if i remember well at some point you can change your outfit you want your character to wear, outfits you already used.
If you upgrade a lot your horse weapon, it’s look will be gothic and deadly
also you can unlock the DLC outfits and weapons with extra abilities in the gameengine.ini or something
The dlc costumes are great too, I love the Cheshire one especially
Some dlc outfits are so op they broke the game tho
And, if I'm remembering correctly, the 4 levels of the hobby horse represent the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Or maybe that was a theory? Regardless, the hobby horse's designs are some of my favorite weapon designs in the game
Yeah you can change it on the home screen but the first time playing it, I think it's fun to have the dresses that are ment for the different worlds
Fun fact... dentistry was super expensive in the Victorian era that there’s a fad of pulling all your teeth out as a birthday gift... also, since dentures were made from real teeth, a lot of the impoverished sold their teeth for $$... so maybe teeth = currency in game... 🤓
Actually it's because losing teeth/teeth falling out is common in dreams! If I remember correctly it means that something in your life is changing or you regretted saying something
@@insomniaczombie8942 whether this one is correct or you are correct, I prefer to keep my teeth.
@@insomniaczombie8942 Oh, I assumed it was because in fights (at least cartoon ones) people lose teeth. I've never had a dream like that... weird.
@@insomniaczombie8942 no it's a sign of stress. I have them a lot
@@Alvi-lp1gk same
The ending to the underwater segment is probably my favorite part of the game. The way it unfolds is so dark and violent, yet so fantastical and dire.
OMG YEAH- compared to the final boss fight it was so good- the boss fight felt underwhelming to me
So happy to see you play this! I’m unable to afford to play a lot of games so the only way I get to enjoy them is through play-throughs like yours ( ^ w ^)
Looking forward to watching more
That's what I do as well because I watch playthrough(s)/Let's Plays of games that I have an interest in playing, but don't have access to a specific console...
(I mostly on my laptop or my Nintendo Switch...)
@@Tazerboy_10 I also just know I’d be bad at certain games or don’t have the time lol
It's actually more fun watch others play game then play it yourself XD
Yarrr. Sometimes.
I can't even afford PlayStation so this is my only way to enjoy games... My cousin has it so once a year during the holidays I go to my cousin's house just to play games all day long
Quick tip - you can chain the Hobbyhorse attacks together. If timed right, the third hit does a ton of damage! (edit - might have to hold the attack button down on the third hit)
Gab as soon as she gets teeth: T H Ë Ë F 👁️👄👁️
I haven't played this game in years, but I was totally obsessed as a teenager. And the original game, American McGee's Alice. But that game's so old now it wouldn't run on my computer anyway...
Just so you know, if you get it on Xbox, you can get the original Alice as a dlc, and it is the whole campaign
@@forsakenempire4774 it actually came with the retail copy of Madness Returns as well. (this was back when physical copies of games was still a thing 😂)
When I bought madness returns it came with the download of the original game on the xbox
Yeah, the first game comes with the purchase of Alice Madness Returns. It's fun, but has a few glitches.
@@mariahramsey9211 I found the port to be a bit difficult to play. I remember playing bits of it at a friend's house as a kid and it wasn't as hard as it is on the xbox. Also everything seems to be behind by about .5 seconds so timing jumps and such is incredibly hard.
It was cute when you saw the piranha looking thing and you went up to it and gently said hi, as if you were talking to B.B.
I will NEVER get tired of her doing the little hiccup sounds.
The ticket the admiral gave Alice had a German inscription on it
It said “Totentanz” it means “dead dance” or “the dance of death”
oh! like danse macabre?
I remember being obsessed over this game and its graphics, awesome to see you play it and enjoy it too! Favorite character is still the Cheshire cat for me, I love his design!
And his sassy voice actor did such a great job too
The moon and sun remind me of the ones in soul eater
Ah yes. I love their vibe. If only the ones in Alice laughed ominously
waiting for another chapters like child for a Christmas 🥰....
something about you saying "gimme the teeth" brought back memories of a d'n'd character I had who would pry teeth out of her enemies and wore them on a necklace
she's so me
the londoners (the people in the real world) were designed to look like caricatures, hence their art style
This outfit, along with the steampunk dress and the next level's dress are my favorites in this game~
Queensland for me. Hands down, no contest, has always been my fave
It's interesting to see that Gab is really like the Alice in Wonderland aesthetic. I could already see the fanarts of her in Alice's outfits.
Alice's mind is not in shambles. She blames herself and was grieving. She has no one to rely upon and unfortunately back then they called it madness.
I watched this game when snake play it.
And the more she finds about her past, the more the madness finds his answer.
Plus the therapist's whole deal of deliberately suppressing memories is so unhealthy, the absolute opposite of what she needs. What a quack. Of course he doesn't actually care whether it works or not, for reasons the game eventually reveals.
@@Torthrodhel Oh he cares alright.. cares about making sure she does NOT gather the pieces of the jig-saw (which needs only her memory), the process of elimination (n common sense) will inevitably put the pieces together.. sooner or later!
Remember the quote (m'lazy n paraphrasing) words to the effect of our pets being a doppelganger of ourselves, mentions her toy rabbit, n to the crux of the point "That cat of yours must have been a confident. Dinah was ALWAYS AROUND YOU.. wasn't she"
Its a shame SO MUCH WAS CUT OUT, I think it ruined it. But at the very beginning, Bumby's 'Professional opinion' concluded
"that the cat most likely knocked over the oil lantern that was found in the library.. starting the fire"
Of course that's just the start of it (I don't wanna spoil anything for anyone at this point), but I know u know what I mean, X
..n actually ur right! His 'fear' of her remembering is but an inconvenience he could do w/ out.. I mean THE NERVE! ..for reasons the game eventually reveals.
The brass neck tho, lol.. so casual about it!
EDIT: Yeah I just realised that was the start of the NEXT chapter, n it was Dr Radcliff's 'pro opinion', AND (of all that WAS) that scene was not cut out.
Its been far. Too. Long! IDK why, but I 'remember' that 'Cat Culprit' scene as being near (if not at) the start of the game. N The Inferno Train w/ "That train is perfectly capable of terrifying me, YOU should find something better to do" as the 1st time Cheshire makes his appearance.. near the start of the game.
I also remember the scene prior to the 'Shipwreck' side scroller as some 'captain' ushering Alice onto the ship w/ a sense of urgency. Don't remember the details, but it was a situation where the ship was her only chance of survival.
I also 'remember' the Carpenters 'show' as being very different, despite starting the same!
"Sore sights that preyed on me for days & in laudanum's haze I PAINTED THEM ALL" -Dani Filth.
Yup, n 'madness' meant getting holes drilled in yer head, electric shocks (aka E.C.T 'treatment'), prolonged periods on the 'chair-spin-round', then doped up on opioids to keep ya inanimate while 'in storage' (bedridden in cell)..
..storage could be as long as they 'see fit', no rush.. just 'whenever'.. till its time to subject another 'subject' to a well documented LOBOTOMY!
..ALL in the name of 'science' & 'medical research'. Science is about exploring uncharted territory, is it not?
..& if that doesn't make the apparently n allegedly 'mad', Truly mad.. then maybe they WERE mad all along?! 🤔
So many ppl condemned to unimaginable torture n torment.. away from the public's prying eyes (who ironically r 2 SCARED to go NEAR the madhouse), Trusting that they're in 'expert' hands n the best care. & a perfect solution for 'well-to-do' families to dump their 'EMBARRASSMENTS'!
I call it MADNESS, n yeah, a MADHOUSE is exactly what those 'asylums' were. Spellchecker even accepts it as a legitimate word.
@@jay-jay133 it really is a shame so much had to be cut out. Hopefully some of it can be restored in the upcoming project, maybe?
LMFAOOO the “language” from Evelyn
U should check out McGee's website and patreon he's in the process of trying to make a 3rd game (maybe even a movie in the future)
i was 13 years old & it was my first rated M game.... i'm now 22 thank you gab for this nostalgia i was OBSESSED with this game
Same
I like different takes on stories. This one has me intrigued. I do like the art style as well. It's keeping me on the edge of my seat. The oysters in the Disney Alice in Wonderland are interesting looking as well. But they're babies, and the carpenter and the walrus end up leading them out of the water and eating them too. It's interesting to say the least. Thanks for playing this interesting game.
She is 19. She looks her age though, most likely with what she has seen and done, she comes off older than she looks.
*a new enemy appears ready to kill*
Gab: OH HI!!
😂😂
For Aristocrates, the Crows, and stereotyping certain breeds as certain human races. Think i remember the Siamese playing the piano with chopsticks too.
Then again..my favorite movie Oliver's Company also did the stereotyping.. >.<
Haha had the same reaction to the oyster ladies too. The demented children scene too was creepy
I remember thinking the underwater land was so quirky and light hearted at first.
The racist part of "The Aristocats" is an Asian cat named Shun Gon (he's voiced by a white actor). He's pretty much the racist stereotypical caricature of an Asian character, and I guess he plays the piano with chopsticks...
Wait I've seen the movie and never noticed that scene
@@Darkshade_01 It's not really a scene of itself. It's a small part of the 'Everybody Wants to Be A Cat' song and I think it's like a solo for him with the chopsticks
@@sydneymerryman8804 ah ok because I've seen the movie when i was younger and never thought of that
yes. it's unfortunate they felt the need to put that in there b/c otherwise that was a good movie. I wouldn't NOT watch it because of that but I would use it as a teaching opportunity to show how racism comes in different forms for younger kids who might otherwise not have been exposed to it yet.
Somebody mentioned the Jim Crows from Dumbo. And let’s not forget Song of the South. Don’t get me wrong: I have fond memories of Disney films, but my God...!
Every time the boss music starts in this game, I expect to hear *"So ya wanna be a rock superstar, live large..."*
I'm re-watching this series because American McGee's Alice and Alice: Madness Returns are two of my all time favorite games. As a kid I was fascinated by the idea of Wonderland and teen me was a goth so this dark take on it was my jam lol. I'm so glad I got to see Gab discover and enjoy them.
1:16:52 BTW, for anyone wondering like Gab did why Disney had the apology at the beginning of Aristocats it's because, like with Lady and the Tramp, they have a racist bit with a buck-toothed Siamese cat (played by a white man) in the song Everybody Wants To Be A Cat where it played the piano with chopsticks, had a drum kit's symbol on his head, squinted his eyes, and sang "Shanghai, Hong Kong, Egg Fu Yung, fortune cookie always wrong" So... yeah, movie and animation studios in the 50's and 60's did not like Asians apparently because all of them have this kind of content in their movies back then. ʅ(ツ)ʃ
I think the racist part of Aristocats (she talks about it at 1:19:20 or so) is when all the cats were singing together and having a jam and there was a Chinese cat playing a piano with chopsticks and saying fake Chinese words
OKAY! Poor Cowturtle guy! I wanna hug him! also Alice's dress is sooo cool! Like an angler fish mixed with an umbrella octopus or something! or that vampire squid that glows! super cute!
This whole game gives me a bit of Bioshock vibes especially by how dark it is and the underwater world/level
Gab you should totally play the original..American Mcgee's Alice.
There's a mode called Hysteria you should try it (literally the coolest feature in the game)
To enter it just let them hit you until you're so low and then press the button they tell you to press in the flowers area (hp area)
Edit:
Ok she used it in the last fight to get the last part of the flower xD
gab! try pressing the hobby horse button 3 times consecutively to break defences and so you dont have to wait as much for timing. also try xxyx for combo 😘
1:25:00 Gab absolutely destroying the goop goons and crustaceans in this fight whilst taking 0.00 points of damage was so damn satisfying. Like *chef's kiss*.
Fun fact about the ice level: The animals frozen in movement are part of the story of Alice in Wonderland where the animals get soaked by the ocean and decide to run around in a circle to dry off. Of course, that doesn't quite explain the reason for the arctic setting. But just some context for the animals that appear in poses suggesting motion.
it froze as she got knocked out shortly after visiting the ice stock (all the ice blocks- note that there's even a few frozen Ice Snarks in them as she's already starting to slip into Wonderland!)
@@Shadria1996 Ah that makes sense! Thanks I totally forgot about that detail!
I have gotten a 10 hour 40 minute long skipable ad labeled: "OFFICE JAZZ - Relax Concentrate JAZZ Piano For Work From The Office or Home" from advertiser "Relax Music" and I find this situation hilarious.
omg sis is a skinny legend for real, her waist is touching her spine XD
This has always been one of my favorite games. I'm so glad to see you playing it, it's truly a great experience!
"Deep In The Sea" makes a hell of a lot more sense than "Under The Sea".
They LIVE IN IT, not under it!
"Life in the sea" would have been a better song idea even🤦♀️
“I have a cannon toooo!!” Yes. Slight callback to Control
God, I love the grotesque pop-up style of this game!
One of the wonders of a person is that he flees from hearing (advice) and listens to hear (scandal).
you're going to LOVE the next chapter! Well, the chapter after the upcoming "half chapter" as I call it lol
for a game that is 11 years old the physics are really well, from the hair, to the shadows moving around Alice depending on where the light is coming from!
Also, about the apologies in Disney movies. In Sweden there is a tradition to watch "Donald Duck" on Christmas before opening the gifts, it has clips from older Disney movies, from the "Junglebook" to "Ferdinand" and even "Santa's workshop" which has some... not so subtle hints of racism, but last year -- or 2020, I'm not sure -- they added an apology at the very end of the program
I never finished watching a playthrough of this game, I'm really glad you're playing it! Gonna watch it all.
This is a good looking game, I remember when it first came out, I so wanted to play it, it looked so kewl. I am not sure why i never did. I imagine Anne Joy Taylor could play Alice in a movie.
I literally just completed this last week. It's amazing! I'm so glad you're playing this. I loved the different levels. Fingers crossed the new game gets funding. I want to see the next part of Alice's story!
The moon and sun looked gorgeous in the first Tundra area. Really fantastical and like a picture book.
me this entire time: "hey that's really interesting and creative wait- alice aren't you on fIRE?!"
50:00 i was like "who TF is that?" and then I remember there is a Walrus next to him and BOOM "The Walrus and the Carpenter"
at 51:22 'coals to Newcastle' is a helluva line! newcastle is a neighbouring city to where a lot of the inspiration for the origional writing took place; Sunderland!
I’m so glad I found you. So many (mostly male gamers) started this play through but got bored and dropped it right at the point you are at in this installment. I love your commitment and loyal drive. Thank you for being uniquely you 👏🏼
5:08 True. I think they are still a huge deal today though! ;) Bc even nowadays very little games go for realistic hair physics like they did in Alice. Dead or Alive does it, but other than that a lot of games still use either fix hair or just slightly moving hair.
I'm enjoying watching you play through this so much! It's got me wanting to pick it up again!
I have just played through it again. It's such a nostalgia trip. Do it!
I am loving this playthrough!!
So happy and excited to finally see you play this. Keep up the amazing content, Gab!
I'm so happy you're enjoying this game! :D Also heads up, not sure if anyone has mentioned but the Clockwork Bomb makes a great decoy when you're swarmed with enemies :) Excited to see more!!
I can't wait see to your reaction when start to click about this game!
Also, yes hair physics was a big thing when this game first came out. Also Smog and butterflies.
In the Warhammer universe Orcs use teeth as currency so that makes me wonder, is Alice actually an orc? 🤔
Alice: "Everyone here has an excuse for doing _nothing!_ Reminds me of the _asylum..."_
Me: "Reminds _me_ of _politics."_
To be fair, Madness Returns being a linear story, with only really one protagonist with actual hair would allow the developers to devote more resources to make it look good, compared to an open world (i.e. Skyrim) full of NPCs that need individual strands of hair blowing in the wind, and floating in the water...
But still, the helmet-hair of Skyrim remains a constant source of irritation to me - not least of which because they didn't even bother making sure it doesn't clip through clothing or the character's own ears (which would hypothetically be even easier to avoid, when the hair is static, like in Skyrim.)
I remember playing this alongside MGS: Peacewalker, and enjoying Kinect with Just Dance games. And oh, RE5 too. Good ol' days when I drifted away from PS bloodline!
leave it to sean to start about the hair physics
1:16:59 it's because it has a portrayal of a Siamese cat playing "Chopsticks" with Chopsticks on a piano while also having stereotypical "Asian" eyes.
Watching Gab play this game I remember that 3rd game got canceled by ea and I’m so sad
We had one of the old VHS sing-a-long tapes with a song from Aristocrats. The Siamese cat's line was "Shang-hi, Hong Kong, Egg Foo Yung. Fortune Cookie always wrong." while playing the piano with chopsticks. Can't remember the full movie, but that's enough.
12:15, you said that Alice's jump was not suppose to happen but it actually was.
I thought you figured it out last episode but a lot happened last chapter: If you shrink down Alice gets small and she starts hiccupping. While she is small, there are also hidden messages or secrets. They can point you collectibles or hidden teeth. If you were to shrink down at that timestamp, you would have seen a purple invisible platform
Nevermind you got it! 16:40
1:54:41 Game went suddenly from Tim Burton to Stephen King
The fish people are just reverse mermaids!
as a little tip, if you do a hammer combo you can then press knife to do a quick knife attack and it deals a lot of damage. Same thing with the knife, you do the full knife combo then use the horse hammer, boom, special chain attack!
Have a look at a game called Dreamfall the longest journey. I think you might like. Very weird and different with an interesting story and unique characters.
At 1:08, that moment happens a lot in this game. I think that the idea is that Alice's Wonderland is crossing over into her reality a little bit.
This game is AMAZING! I like the Cheshire Cat best!!
Because he is a cat and therefore, obligated to make no sense to anyone.
Loving this series! So fun to watch ☺️ if someone didn't already mention it, the aristocats had a Siamese cat playing the piano with chopsticks shouting something about fortune cookies, very racist!
27:30 reminds me so much of the PS1 game G-Darius!
40:54 dude reminds me of The Wise Old Crab from Battle for Volcano Island
I’m glad my intro to Evelyn is my favorite game of my childhood 🥰
Jeej been waiting for thiss!! Hey if you need a game to play you can always continue the bioshock series!
Yes I wish she’d play infinite!
@@Jackieb741 yeah i hope so too! I think she would love it
The hobby horse is my favorite weapon! Especially you upgrade it, the look of the horse changes 😀
Part 2 already?!?! Oh you made my day Gab!!! ❤❤
Gab: Language!
Gets punched few minutes later
Gab:The FUCK!?
When you got to Barrelbottom, I said that sounded like something out of Spongebob. Then you said that about the fish people. I was like YES!😂😂😂
Honestly watching you play this makes me so happy, I even started a new playthrough again
12:12 i can't be the only one screaming: SHRINK. GO TO SHINK MODE
I feel like Pepper Pig would've been a funnier name 😂
Your videos are my reward for being a good student 😆😉 I forgot how iconic her hair and dress movement is in this game! And the music 💜 I'm so happy about this series.
It's creepy how the memories foreshadow the ending and the truth and yet it's even too vague for the player to understand. Especially Dr. Bumby's memories and all that talk of purpose. I don't really understand Pris's memories tho
You and Birdy are my dearest beings from Holland. You both impressed me so much!
I've never played this game but I remember my older sister playing the first one and it gave me the creeps! So glad I get to watch your playthrough, Gab. It's amazing so far!
The horse is actually very good against the slime guys with many faces. Try it some time.
And I think you can still use the bombs, they are still useful for distracting small enemies when you're fighting big boys.
Ik you’re playing another game but I wish you could upload this every day 😅
Now we just gotta get you to play the old ('98) horror puzzle game, Sanitarium. it's been ported to iOs and android 😁
I tried that game on Android and it's a bit clunky in my opinion. I wonder if they've updated it at all since I played it to make it less clunky
@@btter710 haha yes! I got the mobile version when i found it and by God the controls for it on mobile is HORRIBLE especially when going thru the maze! The PC version was the same but easier with a mouse
Indeed, when this came out PhysX was kind of the new tech that was being developed for PC games, like some fluid simulation and destructible objects, hair and cloth physics and that sort. Later on by like 2015 it was superseded by FleX, but FleX never went mainstream and has been more experimental and in development. Anyway, the PC version of this game has the PhysX features, and cloth and hair simulation in general was still relatively a new graphical feature, but there was no games at the time as far as what I remember that had hair simulation like this game. If I remember correctly watching a live stream from American McGee, he said that they highered 1 guy in China that programmed the hair physics just himself, and did a fantastic job.